Love your video you helped me out I was wondering if I should get a SB micro i have a razer panthera I converted to hitbox bought the top piece at focusattack but I ordered snack box micro art version with convex buttons with updated brook board that let's you play on all latest system excited to see which I prefer.
The Snackbox is the overall better fight box. It's latest versions are compatible with all current and last gen home consoles as well as PC. No proprietary cables to worry about as all that's needed is a standard USB-C cable. Its pretty much perfect. Junkfood Arcade did the damn thing. Hitbox has a ways to go in comparison.
@MunsterNation The HITBOX manufacturers can catch up if they make competent alterations to the current design. No fight stick or controller should be using proprietary cables when we live in an age of the durable USB-C cable. Hell, Victrix recently released their hitbox style fighting controller, and yeah it's ridiculously expensive, but it's selling. It's a great controller. Hitbox really needs to update it's design for quality of life improvements.
But what happens when it comes to upgrading can you just upgrade the snack box PCB is a different type right the hitbox you just use whatever brook makes. Not saying the hitbox is better just saying what I think old correct me :)
I was looking up reviews for the Snackbox because I was considering buying one, and this guy really seems like he knows what he's talking about. Shame he revealed part way through that he's a Zato player. I'll still consider it though.
why the fuck. is something like a snackbox, a plastic(?) housing with 12 fuckin switches and a pcb more expensive than something like a full Wooting hall effect switch keyboard with hand pre-lubed switches, foam inserts, steel (I think) switch mount, etc. etc? It's basically a keyboard with 12 switches instead of like... 104?? I don't understand the pricing at all.
Not quite the same economies of scale. Also, the SnackBox PCB is designed to work with various platforms, rather than the platforms being designed to work with the keyboard. Mobile app for different platforms. Higher average wage per man hour. Centralized support and customer service with quick and effective turn around times. Supply/demand. Loads of reasons beyond the bill of materials.
I have a Victrix Pro FS12, SnackBox Micro, and a Chinese knockoff of the Snackbox Micro called a "FightBox". My favorite is actually the Chinese knockoff. It just feels the best, has the best buttons, and was only like $80. In my opinion, the SnackBox Micro is expensive but feels cheap, and the FightBox is cheap but feels expensive. The Victrix is expensive and feels expensive, as it should. Oddly enough, my least favorite is the Victrix. It feels great and all, and it might just be my technique, but it doesn't register every input. Even if it's my technique that's the issue, it will definitely be solved with a different type of button, which I will try. It's also not very comfortable on my lap. The width is perfect, but the depth is too much. I actually have to move my chair further away from my desk than normal, or the Victrix will hit it. In my opinion, you should do what I did. Buy a cheap Chinese "Fightbox" to see if you'll even like these types of controllers, then upgrade later if you want. However, the FightBox is actually pretty great. It's my favorite.
I feel this definitely sold me on saving up for a Snack Box instead of a Hitbox, because I love how compact it is, and the fact it's compatible with every system.
I was considering the Hitbox just because it's the first one I ever heard about, but I think I'll get the Snackbox XL. All the reviews put the SB far above the HB, and although the SB is a bit more expensive (and out of stock), I'm willing to wait for what seems like a vastly better product.
As far as the hitbox goes with PS5 support, you can use the Brook FGC converter dongle thing or you can use the breakout kit which allows you to connect a ufb with an up5 extension (I think that’s the right word) to allow for native PS5 connection without the need for a converter.
Yeah I agree but at the same time that takes another amount of money out of my wallet plus shipping and imports. I wish they just upgraded the board already
Thanks for this! Been playing on a stick for ages but been interested in these recently. The snackbox really caught my eye since its small and not something that would get in the way when not playing. Also did not know the hitbox doesn't support PS5 (yet?) Hopefully they have a presance at EVO Japan so I can try/buy one directly~ Giving a thumbs up and a sub for great info!
I haven't used either controller a ton, but the snackbox micro feels way more comfortable to me than the hitbox. It also just feels like a more premium product in my opinion for about the same price (or less)
I think the snackbox is better for people with smaller hands for the smaller buttons, hitbox vice versa. This style also feels very natural coming from a piano background, literally pressing keys lol
I think I'm getting a Snackbox One Piece black, but also with the heavy metal back plate, & will probably grab some 25g switches I saw NihongoGamer talk about a while back.
Thank you very much. After years suffering to adapt to stick control (and discovering I'm three times better with just a pad), I honestly hate all things related to it, so knowing the Hitbox is more similar to "traditional" (puke) stick make it an easy choice for me.
I bet the margins they make on these are absolutely ridiculous. There are mechanical keyboards with more intricate manufacturing, way more switches and keycaps that cost less than this. You're essentially buying a $5 alibaba pcb, switches, plastic caps housed in a thin piece of plastic for $250++ ridiculous. i'll wait in 5 years until there's more competition and the price becomes realistic
From my knowledge. The product is entirely made in house with CNC machines, and the pcbs are sent in from Brooke which are highly reputable and high quality. The switches are also custom to fit this specific controller properly, you could for sure build your own with alibaba parts but it wouldnt be next to near the quality level or performance level.
Good review but you didnt compare how they perform.. Hitbox proprietary cable is terrible. I need a much longer cable and they dont offer it. It should be universal usb c.
I mean from my experience in terms of latency they feel about the same, and I did touch on performance for specific playstyles (i.e., sliding techniques) and how those affect your experience with either controller, as well as touched on the board differences and compatibility.
@@MunsterNation gotcha! I was debating between Victrix fs 12 (for sanwa, comfort and usb c) or mpress V2 (a little bigger for forearms to lean on, different buttons, & still pretty light overall)
Thanks for the review. BUT! "It's the same spacing"? Are you serious? :D Not only are the right most buttons angled downwards on the snackbox and not on the hitbox, the spaces are definitely NOT the same. On the snackbox the jump button is a bit more to the left, the down button is on the same vertical line instead of a bit more up on the hitbox, and so on and so forth. Maybe nitpicky but man, the spacing is not the same at all. If anything just the general layout is the same.
I have both. I like the hitbox significantly more. The buttons on the snackbox just don't do it for me. I love the real arcade buttons on the hitbox. Plus hitbox is made out of metal and feels way more premium to me. It also DOES work on PS5 so idk why you said it doesn't. I literally just played a small tournament in May at an anime convention and the hitbox worked on all the PS5's with no adapter. Edit: I guess it depends on the game. I was playing DBFZ on PS5 so my hitbox worked but next gen only games won't work without an adapter.
MPress on a design level looks fantastic, I'm not sure about software for it though, I'd need to do more research, but I'd love to have an MPress or Victrix Box if they weren't so damn expensive LOL
What controller will you be buying? Hitbox or Snackbox?
Wasnt going to go with either and just stick to my fightbox but i realized the snackbox has an xl version so snackbox for sure
@affinity Snackbox gang 😎
Love your video you helped me out I was wondering if I should get a SB micro i have a razer panthera I converted to hitbox bought the top piece at focusattack but I ordered snack box micro art version with convex buttons with updated brook board that let's you play on all latest system excited to see which I prefer.
I can’t find them in stock anywhere lol
I ordered snack box micro XL version ; )
The main benefit for the hitbox for me is the size and weight. Also the felt pad at the bottom just makes it super nice
Completely agree, I really like the hefty and premium feel of the hitbox. It is a bit heavy though lol
The Snackbox is the overall better fight box. It's latest versions are compatible with all current and last gen home consoles as well as PC. No proprietary cables to worry about as all that's needed is a standard USB-C cable. Its pretty much perfect. Junkfood Arcade did the damn thing. Hitbox has a ways to go in comparison.
True! I hope they catch up soon though!
@MunsterNation The HITBOX manufacturers can catch up if they make competent alterations to the current design. No fight stick or controller should be using proprietary cables when we live in an age of the durable USB-C cable. Hell, Victrix recently released their hitbox style fighting controller, and yeah it's ridiculously expensive, but it's selling. It's a great controller. Hitbox really needs to update it's design for quality of life improvements.
But what happens when it comes to upgrading can you just upgrade the snack box PCB is a different type right the hitbox you just use whatever brook makes. Not saying the hitbox is better just saying what I think old correct me :)
Damn your video production is amazing, i didnt expect to see 600 for the subs. This video is very appreciated
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
I am just seeing BOTH of these things for the first time tonight. Very cool!
I am special though, i can be beaten regardless the controller that I am using.
I was looking up reviews for the Snackbox because I was considering buying one, and this guy really seems like he knows what he's talking about. Shame he revealed part way through that he's a Zato player. I'll still consider it though.
LOL
@@MunsterNation I bought one...
@@EGPWonderChef what're your thoughts on it? I'm in the market right now!
@Jacob Mayes I bought an XL and I love it.
I have a hitbox and I need to either somehow find an adapter/modify my hitbox or get a snackbox for ps5 compatibility.
Thanks for this review!
Bought 2023 Snackbox Micro with one piece case. I don’t care for artwork and the one piece case is sturdier.
I love it. It’s absolutely amazing.
It truly is the perfect controller for fighting games
why the fuck. is something like a snackbox, a plastic(?) housing with 12 fuckin switches and a pcb more expensive than something like a full Wooting hall effect switch keyboard with hand pre-lubed switches, foam inserts, steel (I think) switch mount, etc. etc? It's basically a keyboard with 12 switches instead of like... 104?? I don't understand the pricing at all.
Not quite the same economies of scale. Also, the SnackBox PCB is designed to work with various platforms, rather than the platforms being designed to work with the keyboard. Mobile app for different platforms. Higher average wage per man hour. Centralized support and customer service with quick and effective turn around times. Supply/demand. Loads of reasons beyond the bill of materials.
I play on hitbox, but mine is made out of cardboard
That’s just as cool tbh if not way cooler
how expensive was it
@@pumpkincoffee Around 68$ excluding shipping
I have a Victrix Pro FS12, SnackBox Micro, and a Chinese knockoff of the Snackbox Micro called a "FightBox". My favorite is actually the Chinese knockoff. It just feels the best, has the best buttons, and was only like $80. In my opinion, the SnackBox Micro is expensive but feels cheap, and the FightBox is cheap but feels expensive. The Victrix is expensive and feels expensive, as it should.
Oddly enough, my least favorite is the Victrix. It feels great and all, and it might just be my technique, but it doesn't register every input. Even if it's my technique that's the issue, it will definitely be solved with a different type of button, which I will try. It's also not very comfortable on my lap. The width is perfect, but the depth is too much. I actually have to move my chair further away from my desk than normal, or the Victrix will hit it.
In my opinion, you should do what I did. Buy a cheap Chinese "Fightbox" to see if you'll even like these types of controllers, then upgrade later if you want. However, the FightBox is actually pretty great. It's my favorite.
Dam Bro, Victrix Pro FS12 isn't the best one for you? That cost a ton.
Whereabouts did you purchase the Fightbox? I'd like to try this type of controller but not necessarily excited about dropping 300$ for one.
Same. But I need Xbox support. Do the knockoffs have that?
Which version of the Fightbox do you have? The bigger B1, or the Mini?
These are 'cheap knockoffs'? I'm showing the Fightbox F8 with the ufb-up5 chip is $329!
I feel this definitely sold me on saving up for a Snack Box instead of a Hitbox, because I love how compact it is, and the fact it's compatible with every system.
If you can ever find one in stock 😔
@@sinetwo I signed up for their email notifs to let me know when it's back in stock, and that thing has been dead silent. Pain 😔
@@BathingInAcheron Good luck! I'm DIYing at a solution with a converted Venom / Mayflash now, which works on native PS5 games.
I went to Junkfoodarcades and almost everything is sold out. Crazy.
It still is
Not anymore!!
I was considering the Hitbox just because it's the first one I ever heard about, but I think I'll get the Snackbox XL. All the reviews put the SB far above the HB, and although the SB is a bit more expensive (and out of stock), I'm willing to wait for what seems like a vastly better product.
I dont see any hitbox for sale
in what way is it vastly better? serious question btw
Im thinking of getting a Hitbox and the more reviews I see I lean more towards the snack box just because it’s up to date.
As far as the hitbox goes with PS5 support, you can use the Brook FGC converter dongle thing or you can use the breakout kit which allows you to connect a ufb with an up5 extension (I think that’s the right word) to allow for native PS5 connection without the need for a converter.
Yeah I agree but at the same time that takes another amount of money out of my wallet plus shipping and imports. I wish they just upgraded the board already
I'm going to EVO this year. I hope they're both there so I can compare the two. Living in the UK the shipping cost for either of them is too much.
The snackbox is just a keyboard with 10 keys, they use cherry switches (keybhoard). They're just charging an arm and a leg for no reason.
bentobox are made in uk so maybe check them out, I don’t have one but it seemed like the best alternative
FightBox F1 is $50 more but PS5/PS4/PS3/PC ready now. The F9 version if you like your buttons a bit larger.
Thank you for this video man ❤
Thank you for watching!! 😁
Thanks for this! Been playing on a stick for ages but been interested in these recently. The snackbox really caught my eye since its small and not something that would get in the way when not playing. Also did not know the hitbox doesn't support PS5 (yet?) Hopefully they have a presance at EVO Japan so I can try/buy one directly~ Giving a thumbs up and a sub for great info!
Thanks so much for the support! I hope they have one there too!
The new 2023 model apparently does
@@Netsren Nope the hitbox doesn't support PS5 games, so if anyone want play on PS5 need to aware of this.
Can you get the classic feel from Snackbox too?
I haven't used either controller a ton, but the snackbox micro feels way more comfortable to me than the hitbox. It also just feels like a more premium product in my opinion for about the same price (or less)
I love they weighty feel of the hitbox but the snackbox portability just cannot be beat!
I think the snackbox is better for people with smaller hands for the smaller buttons, hitbox vice versa. This style also feels very natural coming from a piano background, literally pressing keys lol
snackbox is awesome to carry around and play with anywhere
So yeah that hit box is pretty sweet I want one
Go for it! Great controller
a great video i ended up going with a used hitbox on ebay because im broke and had to do it on payments lmao
Hey no shame in getting hitbox! That’s a great controller!!
Nice review, gonna get the snack box
AYY WELCOME TO THE CLUB!
Snackbox with convex caps feels more traditional and I am surprised it's not the default.
I think I'm getting a Snackbox One Piece black, but also with the heavy metal back plate, & will probably grab some 25g switches I saw NihongoGamer talk about a while back.
I should really try out the heavy metal plate
what is the top button refer to? start, select, ...?
What do you think about the fightbox f1 or b1? Might those be worth it?
Cant get either cause they are never stocked fml XD I'm interested in the snack box, hopefully I'll secure one before my death x.x
Thank you very much. After years suffering to adapt to stick control (and discovering I'm three times better with just a pad), I honestly hate all things related to it, so knowing the Hitbox is more similar to "traditional" (puke) stick make it an easy choice for me.
did u fight the cat with that T-shirt 😆
We regularly spar
Really wanna play mk1 on hitbox. Really hope HB comes out with the ps5 version
Someday
Are the smaller buttons (Home, L3, R3, etc.) on the Micro hard to press? In previous versions they did I'm not sure about the 2023 editions now.
Essentially the same. Not that I found them difficult at all...
Soo with an adapter would work on Xbox ?
Snackbox Gang 😤
Snackbox all the way!!
But how can snackbox be better without Sanwa buttons? Do people really not care about the buttons? Am I the only one?
Its preference! Just like how some people prefer ball tops over bat tops some people prefer switches over arcade buttons!
The proprietary cable really turns me off of the hitbox :(
I truly wish they used USB-C!
I have a fightbox and I love it
I bet the margins they make on these are absolutely ridiculous. There are mechanical keyboards with more intricate manufacturing, way more switches and keycaps that cost less than this. You're essentially buying a $5 alibaba pcb, switches, plastic caps housed in a thin piece of plastic for $250++ ridiculous. i'll wait in 5 years until there's more competition and the price becomes realistic
From my knowledge. The product is entirely made in house with CNC machines, and the pcbs are sent in from Brooke which are highly reputable and high quality.
The switches are also custom to fit this specific controller properly, you could for sure build your own with alibaba parts but it wouldnt be next to near the quality level or performance level.
Snackbox XL is goated and we all know it.
I chose the snackbox because I like snacking
How do you customize templates?
Focus Attack has templates that you can load into photoshop and make whatever u want to go on hitbox or snackbox
Snackbox micro xl is goated.
Big agree
for sure you got more than one cat out there XD
We have two but we never made the video for the second little guy! 😁
I perfer the size of the snackbox, but the button size of the hitbox.
Button size is about the same. Minus the thickness of the classic arcade buttons on the hitbox.
Man when you clean the hit box, clean the mic as well.
It's so furry that it's becoming alive.
😂
Good advice, camera picks up a lot of dust that gets on the mic for sure! Good eye LOL
Would u consider buyin razer kitsune over snackbox
I would test it for sure but the Snackboxes form factor takes the cake. I’m not too sure about the PCB in the Kitsune too.
if only i could find one haha
Yeah they sell out pretty fast
Good review but you didnt compare how they perform..
Hitbox proprietary cable is terrible.
I need a much longer cable and they dont offer it. It should be universal usb c.
I mean from my experience in terms of latency they feel about the same, and I did touch on performance for specific playstyles (i.e., sliding techniques) and how those affect your experience with either controller, as well as touched on the board differences and compatibility.
Also yes hitbox being proprietary is TERRIBLE
@@MunsterNation gotcha! I was debating between Victrix fs 12 (for sanwa, comfort and usb c) or mpress V2 (a little bigger for forearms to lean on, different buttons, & still pretty light overall)
Thanks for the review. BUT! "It's the same spacing"? Are you serious? :D Not only are the right most buttons angled downwards on the snackbox and not on the hitbox, the spaces are definitely NOT the same. On the snackbox the jump button is a bit more to the left, the down button is on the same vertical line instead of a bit more up on the hitbox, and so on and so forth. Maybe nitpicky but man, the spacing is not the same at all. If anything just the general layout is the same.
yeah the snack box is better no contest here lol
hitbox seems outdated, and the fact that you can only buy power cables from them....
I just wanna know what are the million buttons on the smashbox? And why are they so many
It's because in Smash you have to use a CStick so I think some buttons make up the C Stick
More button mo beeter
Snack box micro is good for portability which is why I’m gonna order one at some point
No bro check haute42 better and 1/5 of the price
@@le0nz does it have the same compatibility? With ps5 and stuff
Good choice!!
I have both. I like the hitbox significantly more. The buttons on the snackbox just don't do it for me. I love the real arcade buttons on the hitbox. Plus hitbox is made out of metal and feels way more premium to me. It also DOES work on PS5 so idk why you said it doesn't. I literally just played a small tournament in May at an anime convention and the hitbox worked on all the PS5's with no adapter.
Edit: I guess it depends on the game. I was playing DBFZ on PS5 so my hitbox worked but next gen only games won't work without an adapter.
Does hitbox work on PS5? plug and play
Not at the moment, no
Does the snackbox work for xbox series x?
Yes!
It's Sony's fault by making stuff excluded from ps5 compatibility that's why I went PC and oh yeah the no input lag
Sony gatekeeping is always so painful and annoying
Doritos 4ever
MPress>Snackbox>hitbox
MPress on a design level looks fantastic, I'm not sure about software for it though, I'd need to do more research, but I'd love to have an MPress or Victrix Box if they weren't so damn expensive LOL
I was not impressed with the MPress. I mean, it was pretty, but for use I prefer the SnackBox XL with their HMP.
I play on the keyboard...it's so f_cking cheap too.
Munster lemme know if you wanna sell the evo snackbox.
Not in a million years pal 😂
@@MunsterNation 😀
Theres aaan update board for PS5.
This is true! Snackbox on top!
None of the above; get a cheap flatbox for $50
I’m looking into reviewing the cheaper leverless and seeing how they stack up in the future!
I use a keyboard XDdd
A few 😂eCan
Too bad snackbox is sold out across the board:(
They restock quite often!
This is for people with no hand coordination.
That’s the equivalent of saying people who play pc games, rhythm games and piano have no hand eye coordination lol
hitbox players should only match with other hitbox players online.
both are overpriced imho
Disagree the snackbox is made by hand minus the pcb.
This is why modern controls are awesome. I’d never play this classic game controller vs classic kids on these sweat boxes haha
Ok lol
@@2Namiinothing to say but commented? Stay weird dude
@@enternamehere142 lol... Ok
@@2Namii hahaha right?
Stick is better
hitbox/snackbox this the new gen.....such simp lookin thing....real OG FGC players play on fightsticks!!!!