The best controller you NEED to try in 2023
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- You want the best fight pad available today? Don't buy anything until you've tried this new all button leverless arcade stick. The new Snack Box Micro 2023 is better than the original model in every conceivable way and if you need the perfect portable controller to replace your pro controller or fight stick you'd be crazy not to consider moving to the Snack Box Micro for the ultimate lightweight, high performance fighting game experience.
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You see Nihongo, you are actually right. The micro is practically invisible because it’s always sold out 😅
It’s in stock right now for switch/pc
@@ARMediaOfficial not the ps5 version 😭
@@bloodmarth You missed the window for July by about 4 days. I ordered it as soon as I saw it was in.
the "get into fighting games" edition is the ps5 compatible one and it's still showing dates available
@@joeyariesnovais pretty much the same as the 2023 one?
Why are they sending these for review when it’s always sold out anyways. :/
For real I have been wanting to get one for a while now.
It’s in stock for pc/switch
And ps5 restock is sat at 12 EST. Same as last week
These companies never have stock when I check.
They were in stock like.. 28 days ago. I bought mine literally 2 days after Combo Breaker and said it was going to ship out the 26th, but it's coming in tomorrow!
Im gonna be real with you. If a beginner wants a controller like this and sees the price. Thats where the interest ends.
A poor beginning you mean
Other brand offerings like Sehawei are perfect for that niche, try leverless and get a Brook adapter which you'll need going forward pretty much no matter what.
No? there’s always other alternatives. Get Haute42.
There are some cheaper leaverless controllers that are good on Amazon for like $60
@@sakuramoon3259 lmao you can always just check other products that are cheaper . I got mine for less than $80
This seems like the perfect controller to play with Street Fighter 6. Both the game and the new Snack Box Micro are very thoughtfully constructed, it's amazing that we live in a time where the consumer is considered this much by both a AAA game studio and a mom and pop store
In addition, your controller reviews have gotten so much better. You just went really in-depth with this one without wasting any time. Great video as usual!
Perfect for you....
I switched from the original Hitbox to the SnackBox Micro XL earlier this month. Best arcade “stick” out for sure. And since it’s PS5 compatible, it makes that much more better!!
Pretty sure Nihongo could supply the fgc better than these companies at this stage with the amount of products he gets sent.
Yes if it continues, he may be able to pass a first qualifying round in a local tournament 😅
I absolutely love my Micro. I’m local to JFA in Atlanta, and they support the local FGC and are great to work with when anything goes wrong with their products. Great people, great products, great service.
I love that it's sold out! Very Reliable!
would love a slightly thicker version that uses regular keyswitches. just so much more variety than low-profile.
That’s
Consider the M-press. It's pretty thin but it also takes up a much larger area than the snackbox
I just checked and MX switches fit.
Honestly why would you even want regular height switches? You want low actuation distance for gaming generally, but especially for fighting games. There's a reason Sanwas actuate at like 0.8mm.
Only for typing do you want a standard 4mm throw.
@@libertyprime9307 Just variety and i have a lot from keyboard hobby stuff. I now have a snackbox micro and a mpress so im good on both ends.
You are the reason that I found the snackbox company in the first place seems like it’s been about a year or more and I keep going in periodically to find the current availability. I used to live in Georgia, but have recently moved to Alabama not far from the gulf. I’m pleased to say that earlier this week I was able to order one from their site. Unfortunately it wasn’t the woolie one. It was in between the micro and the new two player control panel for my Taito Vewlix. I guess that Vewlix is going to have to wait till I can get around to my street fighter six rebuild of the cabinet. Keep up the good work and thanks for being there.
I love the concept of these controllers. I have peripheral neuropathy, so moving my hands around like you'd have to on a game pad or joystick is a no-go for me. This controller lets me enjoy fighting games again.
I think the only bad thing about SnackBox is the long waiting for shipping and almost every snackbox accessories is sold out
Got mine in a week
the only bad thing is I have been wanting one for a month but they are sold out and no matter whenever i check their twitter there is no news of whenever it will restock so i am stuck checking twitter every morning and website to see if it is even possible to buy the controller I want. The stock is one of the biggest down sides IMO as it should be accessible to buy because i don't wanna buy a cheaper worse box style controller for like $100 and then buy the one i want i just wanna buy the snack box micro and its annoying as hell.
@@itsjimbro thats because greedy people bought more than they need so they can resell it for profit...
@@CatwhiskerPurr Or because it's a fad and everyone wants one
I got so lucky to get an order in for the 2023 micro with art case earlier this month for the week of June 26th. Very excited for this.
These controllers are really in demand because I sometimes check the site to see if convex buttons are in stock (they never are) and the micro hasn't been in stock for a while. Hopefully it comes back soon and hopefully they also restock on the heavy metal plates and buttons lol, most things are always out of stock on their site but it makes sense now that they are getting so popular it can be hard to keep up with demand.
I did too but I ordered the all black ...was able to get a set of convex red buttons as well 😅 but sadly still waiting for them to restock the heavy metal plate . Don't know yet if I'm gonna change all the buttons to red or just the directional buttons hmmm . I literally just got an email saying they shipped my package w a tracking number....can't wait !
I feel like I was very ahead of the curve on this, back in the late 90s and early 00s I used to play neo geo fighting games on an emulator with a keyboard. I actually preferred it greatly to a controller especially samurai shodown 4, doing the moves was so much more crisp and responsive.
The beginning of this gave me serious IT crowd vibes and I loved it.
Ridiculous how much they charge for these. It’s essentially just 10 switches worth $10, a plastic container, and a $5 pcb from aliexpress
My snackbox constantly disconnected and eventually the usb broke so I pray nobody else gets this issue
I love the idea of a small portable buttonbox controller but I hate the microscopic buttons at the top. There must of been a better way to make buttons not small and pointy.
Probably had to compromise in order to accommodate all the buttons and keep the controller as small as it is. A slightly thicker and much larger area option (to accommodate full size extra buttons) is the Mpress controller. However, like the snackbox, it's often out of stock...
They could've changed the button size for the control panel but they chose to keep the art case compatible with older PCBs which is nice so anyone who bought a Micro before can still upgrade easily
I would like to get an official snackbox micro one day, but for now I have transitioned from using an arcade stick to an ergonomic keyboard that helps me position my hands differently, and I have not had carpal tunnel since the launch of SF6, so I just wanted to say that leverless controllers are definitely a great option for people with carpal tunnel or tendonitis issues. Also, with my tiny hands, I prefer smaller controllers with smaller buttons in general. I can't actually reach all the punch/kick buttons when they're all 30mm in size, and I have to shift my wrist left and right, but I don't have that issue anymore.
Damn the stick gave you carpal tunnel??? That's ruthless.. I felt ware on my arms just from trying to master wave dashing from P1 side on my arcade stick lol
@@0o0sean0o0SPC I think it's partially because my hands are small, and I have to strain my ring finger and pinky a lot more for the HP HK buttons. I can't reach the fourth buttons next to those without shifting my wrist slightly, it's super frustrating.
Very well structured and edited review ! GG
The best part is feeling like a T-Rex when you put the micro as close to your body as possible.
Love my snackbox, lol.
Haha- you sounded like Moss, (Richard Ayoade) from the IT crowd in that skit at the start of the vid! 😂😂😂
i got mine in the mail a couple of days after sf6 came out and i love this thing really
Mine should be shipping out next week, hopefully . I’m excited!
Still sold out
I've been wanting to get one of these but they are always sold out and a bit pricey. So I'm actually building a flat box so that I can get all of the benefits
I BEEN WANTING THIS SINCE THE FIRST REVIEWS FROM BACK IN THE DAY! I DONT EVEN PLAY FIGHTING GAMES THAT WELL
Yeah, I would like to pick up one before and I just couldn’t find them in stock and there’s always a back order
Super glad to get my XL Snackbox controller here at the end of September. I have tried 5 different controllers but I think this one is gonna elevate my gameplay just a bit more for fighting games.
I’d love to get into fighting games and try this out, but the price is pretty ridiculous imo.
Regular gamepads are perfectly fine for playing fighting games. Boxes like these are enthusiast products. Buying one before getting into fighting games is putting the cart before the horse.
Just start playing with whatever you have, I started playing on pc on my keyboard and its completely fine, so either a keyboard on a pc or a pad on a console is ok just like the guy said above
Just start playing!
I actually find the new buttons are not as good as the old ones. I prefer the rough surface of the old buttons rather than the smooth new ones. Other than that, usb-c is a godsend!!!
But I do find that holding the snackbox too close to my body actually hurts me after playing for a while as I have to twist my wrists a little to hold the buttons correctly & that added stress, albeit little, is enough to cause discomfort after a coupe of hrs of play.
I can kinda see that yeah. The texture of the original buttons is quite nice. I feel the scooped concave shape of the buttons more with the new ones but it'd be cool if they sold the old buttons as an option
Would love one but it's just so flipping loud! So few options for those of us who want quiet inputs. My only hope really is to build my own with Sanwa OBSFEs, which is exactly what my current project is. Great guides on self building too btw! 😉💪
This feeling of uncertainty and nervousness I have must be the same feeling others have when thinking about going from a controller to using an arcade stick.
It's hard to wrap my head around using buttons with my fingertips for directional inputs. Just because I know I won't be able to translate what I want to do when I first start using one, and I'll be worse at the beginning because it's a whole new way of playing.
I never got used to playing with a stick on my lap, so I used a makeshift table to be between my legs to put the stick on. However, it's cumbersome to pull all that out and my special chair just to play for a bit. So I've been using a controller to play Street Fighter 6. Even though I'm worse and have way more mis-inputs when using a controller, it's just easier and more comfortable to play with a controller because I can lay back.
Would like to try one of these out one day and try to get used to it. Seems really convenient, and with how it's designed, it seems like I'd still feel like I'm playing on an arcade stick. Because I would just be changing what I use with my left hand and still have that typewriter feel of hitting the buttons on the right.
As someone that learned to play fighter emulating the dbz snes games on a pc, hitboxes are always going to feel better to me than pads and joysticks.
You're really great at making and editing videos. Quite enjoyable to watch.
Why is it like 400$ wtf.
top notch acting for the intro 10/10
I wish companies like Hitbox and Junkfood Custom Arcades would make all-button controllers with traditional "WASD" layouts for the directional inputs. Because no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get my muscle memory used to having the Up button be on the bottom. I'm used to a lifetime of playing PC games on mouse and keyboard with the W, A, S and D keys for movement. I'd love to have one of these well-designed controllers but with a WASD layout. It would be great not just for fighting games, but also for arcade games like shmups and beat-em-ups.
try a mixbox
Mixbox might be your thing but i get what you say
Junk food arcade announced a mic box recently.
Most pc games have 'space' as 'jump', which is the same as 'up' usage in fighting games and is the analog of hitbox button placement. 'w' is normally forward unless you only play 2d games then it is sometimes jump or up which are sometimes distinguished too(lots of 2d games don't use 'w' for jump either). Do you have a hard time jumping in 3d games?
i actually refuse to believe this video isnt sponsored
These micros are very nice. Waiting for my artcase and PS5 pcb to arrive soon. I even made a Persona 3 Reloaded artwork to go with it!
I love my snackbox XL. Hope they make an artwork case for the XL someday. Hated having to replace my dpad every 3 to 6 months, arcade sticks give me major wrist pain, snackbox saved my wrists and allowed me to keep playing fighting games.
Okay, I'm sold, I'ma orde...Oh, fully sold out. Feels bad man.
Nihongo's bedroom will soon become an arcade sticks museum.
I'm not even joking got mine a few days ago and it is amazing! The best controller i'v ever used for fighting games.
Kudos on finding pants that fit the controller.
I still don't understand how a company hasn't mass produced these things.
They've been around a long time but it wasn't until halfway through SFV that the pros started adopting leverless and winning tournaments with them. Official licensed options are increasing.
Razer Kitsune incoming
i dont know why youtube keeps unsubscribing me from youtube channels?
This was a great video Nihongo.
Welcome back :)
I would love to try it if they were ever in stock lol
I had one and it broke, USB-C port melted while playing on PC.
But honestly I didn't like how small it was anyways, I thought I'd love it but its so awkward to use unless its on a desk, which is still awkward. Nothing is better than having a stick on your lap really. If they made one the size of a quanba obsidian or Victrix FS12 I'd buy it.
That's exactly why they made the XL version if you still like the feeling of the buttons i really recommend you to get your hand on the XL
I have a Qanba Obsidian with hitbox layout and my friend has the Victrix Hitbox. Most people in my community have a Snackbox now. I'd rather go this route than stay on what I have.
really sounds like a you problem. Had one for months, no issue here.
Melted? Please explain
You can get the victrix stickless version. I think it's called the fs12 pro or something idk. It's the same case as the standard victrix but it's an all button layout. Major downside is how insanely expensive it is. You'll likely pay 500 maybe 600+ on the stick + shipping and then swapping out the Sanwas they have by default on a ~$500 controller for some reason.
i just cant remember to jump with that style of leverless
I ordered mine last week. I can't wait
Have this new board, works well. Been debating buying the XL case and new buttons to make a regular.
Have you ever seen one of the original Street Fight 1 Arcade Controller Panel,
You had to punch big punch and kick pad .
depending on how hard you hit it would be Jab or Fierce ,
It was broken in 2 weeks then changed to buttons at my local by Arcade.
Not sure if this was a prototype or on all SF1 Arcade Releases.
I just ordered the Lite after this video cause it’s the only one in stock lmao. Every other time I check they’re all sold out
2:49 I was dying at this for a good 2 minutes, great video as always, im hoping they make an XL with art case, but I might cave in and get the micro art case
For people who have extra MX-cherry like switches and/or who couldn't order the snackbox micro, Fightbox B1-MINI is really nice too, it is slightly thicker and wider though. but it was a nice way to use my remaining keyboard switches :D.
Thank you for bringing the Fightbox to my attention ! I just ordered a B1. Finally an affordable lever-less controller !
@@Aranarth78 you're welcome! If you bought the one with MX switch, just be careful with the caps, some of them were a little bit loose on the switches I swapped to. But just put a little bit of tissue flat on top of the switches when putting the caps. And you are good to go.
Would you look into the Slab Mini or Bentobox? I'm interested in how they stack up as alternatives to the Snack box micro
I love it! I want one. Didnt know the micro 1 was a thing. Dang it, sold out already
I JUST realized that the intro is using a funny little version of new soul by yael naim! :D Macbook Air commercial nice!
Thanks for the update! I may get one for ergonomics
10:55 There are a bunch of Japanese controllers that have extra r buttons by the right thumb and above x/y look really convenient
265$ absolutely insane. I’d love to get into fighting games but I’m not spending anywhere near that much for a fight pad. You might be able to sell me this for 80$.
this guy has a good upload on how to make a hitbox-style controller for cheap. theres several budget options out there, this option is more of an enthusiast purchase
You mean maybe try it in 2024 if things go well?
Aaaaaand its sold out.
Awesome!
Got the XL one a few months ago because I knew they'd be sold out with SF6 and Tekken 8 coming out, do not regret!
Got mine a few weeks ago and threw some custom chun li art in it
I haven't had a fight stick of any kind before. I preordered the 8bitdo one for pc/xbox. Watching your videos has gotten me to pick one up for kof tekken and sf.
Playing everything they're was at the EVO floor. The snack box outshined every other controller. Even the hit box, and the razer.
What a marvelous joystick arcade! ❤😍
Got mine arriving next week!!
same reason i play fighting games on keyboard. precise directional buttons. if i press left it goes left no accidental joystick angles
Wish the buttons were either bigger or closer together for finger slidies. Also wish there were 3 thumb buttons (which included L3 and R3)
My favorite is the victrix hitbox. I tend to play with it on my lap so the weight keeps it balanced and doesn’t move, also the quality is amazing.
L3 and R3 should be on the bottom on either side of the middle button so you can quickly access them with your thumbs. In my opinion that would be optimal placement, like having 3 space bars. Left middle and right.
I hope they’ll do a layout like that soon. That style of layout became popular after SF6 launched so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what JFA comes up with
Glad I was able to get one ordered while they were in stock. Going to be awhile before actually receiving it but It's definitely something to look forward to.
Really enjoyed the IT crowd style skit at the start! Great content as always
I picked up the lite version without console support because I know someone with a brooks adapter for locals and figured I can always upgrade later, really enjoying it so far. Already thinking about how I can make it even better.
My setup is tuned but not completely jank or oldschool. I use sanwa sticks with shorth throw bushings and bat levers with sanwa short travel buttons. Its a little touchy, but I prefer response to slop and play. Im not sure I can bring myself to use one of these boxes with a perfectly good keyboard right in front of me.. Maybe one day, but im still having fun.
The best fighting controller you can't buy at all.
That should've been the title 🤣
People will be like:
Playing fighting games on the keyboard is atrocious, use a controller instead.
Playing with a controller is unauthentic, play with a fightstick instead.
Fightstics are outdated, you know what you should use? A KEYBOARD!
Bought this one back in late March and I haven't regretted it. It feels amazingly good to play with. Now I just need to commission me some art for it...
The Haute42 TSeries has dedicated buttons for L3 and R3. Give it a shot, I just got one in for review.
Shout outs to the Initial D t-shirt :D
If anybody is a little diy savvy and have a 3d printer, you can make your own and cheaper, look for the flatbox project.
It's definitely the best controller on the market, but they are so flooded with orders, the wait time is really extreme. I have two of them (original art case and new PS5 PCB) and I think its a great purchase if you can wait through their pre-order times.
This and the mpress are always out of stock. I think I prefer the mpress as it’s a bit bigger. But due to stock issues and shipping costs to UK I might have to make do with a fightbox B1 with UFB-UP5. If I can get hold of a wingman FGC then I have more options but those are out of stock everywhere as well.
I bought PXN-X8 to try this style of controller out like it so far but still learning
can't wait to receive mine. it finally shipped yesterday!
Everyone is a gangster until Elon musk makes a game console directly in our brain 😂 we can sleep and play games at the same time
Took a chance, which im ok with. I got the Micro Lite
Some important points that I may need to know are what is input lag? how travel the buttons are? and is it still smooth if I click on the edge? Can you elaborate?
Just got the micro lite. Great value since I only play on pc and looks like tons of stock. Excited to try leverless
i wish these leverless controllers would move away from the 2x4 action button setup. I don't think a lot of people use the 2 "pinky" buttons. Having them repositioned around index and middle fingers would remove the need for lateral movement and realigning the right hand. It would make them much more accessible and easier to utilize, I think.
I started to play like this using a keyboard way back, A left, D right, W up, Space down. Good enough for KOF>
Sold, take my money micro
In the end, people playing on a computer keyboard were the right ones. I imagine the amount of people who will start to do speedrun of platform games and other game genders using this box controller type.
you are effortlessly good at the skits man keep it up!!!
Hands down, the best gamepad I have ever found is my Versus Fighter Pad, it has a full-fat micro-switch Neo-Geo gamepad style joystick that goes in like 16 directions and feels amazing for tons of games, be it shmups, platformers, top down racers, fighting games and so on and on, even the Sega MD/GEN controllers D-Pad can't compete with it, it feels just so good to use, also has 6 large arcade style micro-switch (mechanical) main buttons and nice clicky shoulder triggers, it's the perfect pad for using with RetroArch.
Hmm interesting, I wonder how well if performs compared to the new 8Bitdo Neo Geo gamepad with microswitches (for the D pad)
@@patrickdegroot2146 It's a lot to live up to, I know that much.
I play on keyboard, and I would still need one button for my left hand pinky. In games that have it i like putting dash on there.
Love that it fit in your pocket lol