Is Ghostbusters Frozen Empire The Sequel We Expected?
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2024
- WE’VE GOT ONE!! Paul Rudd and Egon’s grandkids are back and this time they’re bustin’ ghosts in The Big Apple! When an ancient ice demon escapes from a literal Hellraiser puzzle box and threatens to freeze the world, they team up with the original Ghostbusters to save the world! Watch out for spooks, specters, and falling Stay Puft Marshmallows, as we dive deep into Slimer’s butthole to decide if this was the Ghostbusters movie we were promised. Special guest Dr. O’Rourke joins Dr. La Scola and Dr. O’Rourke in the dungeon.
Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire is a 2024 American supernatural comedy film directed by Gil Kenan from a screenplay he co-wrote with Jason Reitman. It is the sequel to Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021) and the fifth film in the Ghostbusters franchise. The film stars Paul Rudd, Carrie Coon, Finn Wolfhard, Mckenna Grace, Celeste O'Connor, and Logan Kim reprising their roles from Afterlife, alongside Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Ernie Hudson, Annie Potts, and William Atherton reprising their characters from the earlier films. Kumail Nanjiani, Patton Oswalt, Emily Alyn Lind, and James Acaster also join the cast. Set two years after the events of Afterlife, the veteran Ghostbusters must join forces with their new recruits to save the world in New York City from a death-chilling god who seeks to build a spectral army.
Following the success of Afterlife, Sony Pictures announced the sequel in April 2022, with Reitman returning as director. Co-writer and executive producer Kenan later took over as director from Reitman that December, with the latter staying on as a co-writer and co-producer. That same month, Rudd, Coon, Grace, Wolfhard, O'Connor, Kim, Murray, Aykroyd, Hudson, Potts, and Atherton were all confirmed to reprise their roles. New cast members including Nanjiani, Oswalt, Lind, and Acaster were announced in March 2023, with principal photography commencing that month and wrapping in June. Dario Marianelli was hired to compose the film's score, replacing Afterlife composer Rob Simonsen. This is the first film in the Ghostbusters franchise to be released following the death of the franchise's co-creator and Jason Reitman's father Ivan Reitman, who posthumously receives credit as a producer alongside his son and Jason Blumenfeld. The film is dedicated to Reitman's memory and celebrates the 40th anniversary of the first film.
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That totally sums it up for me. "I wanted to love it but i didn't." 😥
I had a ton of fun. Watching a Ghostbusters movie in 2024, in uniform with friends, while eating popcorn out of a ghost trap alone was a much needed serotonin shot. I just really hope we get an extended cut later on because it definitely felt like a lot of scenes were cut.
I didn't know that Sean has a clone 😂
Saw this last week. It felt like this film had two writers who love both films and cartoons, but it needed another look over. It's not great also its not terrible. The film is just okay. Hopefully, if they do make another, i hope Jason Reitman will come back for the next film because Afterlife had such good chemistry with the characters and was very heartfelt.
Podcast and Ray are following in the old 80s tradition of scientists in their 70s hanging out with teens with very little explanation 😁
I'm watching this episode with my step-son, and it's his first introduction to Movie Dumpster! I've already converted him into a Junior Ghostbuster over the years, and I'm happy to share the love of GBs with him during this renaissance we're having. Maybe he'll follow in my footsteps further and become a Junior Dumpster Dweller??? They grow up so fast 🥲.
Commenting now without having watched the video. THIS is the ghostbusters sequel i wanted. Theres no re-establishing the universe. We dont have to build, it hops right in, on top of the nods to RGB lore. Is the movie perfect? No, its a ghostbusters movie. Its not going to wow you. It was a great light hearted, solid sequel.
I just got home from seeing this in the theater and it was good funny really thought the bad guy was scary and cool
The twizzlers were to help with the smoking tiks. Ray doesn't smoke anymore so he eats them instead.
Ah! That actually does make sense, great catch! -Sean
@@MovieDumpster I thought that was the best thing to get him to not smoke or have ppl ask why he's not anymore. It was a big thing that Ray smoked.
They all smoked except Egon in the original. -Joe
It was great to have Sean's brother on the show. He should come back at some point.
Kumail was probably my favorite part always funny
I haven't seen this film yet, but I loved afterlife it even made me cry at the end 😢 the only issue i had with that film is you could tell it was made during lockdown because there was whole scenes with empty streets during the day 😂 thoses where the only issues, everything else i loved ❤
Afterlife wasn't made during the shut downs. It was filmed in the summer of 2019 before anything shut down. The locations they filmed it in were small towns, hence the lack of people, and also because the production was able to dictate how many people were on set, background actors and so on.
@@Dude-oh8vq oh well that's good to know, i just always found it odd to have empty streets, i just made sense to me that it was made during lockdown but oh well
I think they wanted it to feel very sleepy old town esque, and I also assume that there was originally going to be more of a Shandor town cult vibe, with not a lot of people out and about, but that was changed during filming. BTW I think Frozen Empire is going to age better, than when on first viewing. The film isn't horrible by any means, and has some good GB moments with the OGs, but it needs a director's cut with deleted scenes. @@TheNerdstalgicPodcast
@@Dude-oh8vq that would make sense!! And i still haven't seen it yet but im excited to 🤗
Did you guys not equate the sunglasses to him finding the bottle of booze earlier ?? I was DYING !!
I think we’re missing the joke? Haha.
@MovieDumpster The cut to him being the only one in glasses after asking "Anyone else need some Liquid Courage?" Vinkman being drunk during the final confrontation SHOULD have been worked with more and could have been hilarious.
Ok, yeah that is pretty funny, wish it was clearer! 😂 -Sean
Ernie Hudson looks better now than he did in 1984. Paul Rudd should take some Highlander tips, get into the Thorn cult or something.
The one thing that keeps coming to me from the fan discussion is that the film seems to have given people ALOT to chew on. So it’s not as tight as Afterlife, but it’s almost by design because the movie has distinct acts. There are soooo many things they brought in from RGB. Once the fandom has time to digest it over the years I think it’s going to be a favorite. The kid reaction in the theater I was in was very positive, my teenage daughter liked it. She relates to Trevor and Phoebe, and Podcast…there are little reactions from them all throughout the film she often chuckled at.
Yooo, I might have been at that signing as you guys!!!! lmfao
That's incredible! The line was massive haha.
Great stuff, duders!
I thought this movie was awesome. Had a lot of fun watched it twice in theaters with my dad and my friend.👻🚫
She wasn't going for the female ghost. She was in love with the idea of being a ghost. Like egon. Had nothing to do with romance. Kinda clarified that when they brought up egon wanting to be a ghost as well.
Yea, I do remember Phoebe asking Ray, but there is still an attraction-platonic or otherwise. -Joe
I can see that in a way. But I kinda believe because that is the thing ppl are looking for they are finding it. I never thought that the whole time watching until I seen it come up later. But I guess I can see that. Still think it's reaching tho
I was expecting them to kiss, when Phoebe became a ghost.
It very much felt like that’s where they were going. -Joe
Felt like they glorified Suicide...
Regardless if you like the film or not, this review is great 🎉
My only downsides of the film is that there’s too much setup for the main villain and not enough time of everything being frozen. What should’ve been an hour of set up and an hour of everything being frozen and showing a real threat of this ghosts “Frozen Empire” of ghosts falls flat and feels like it was barely an inconvenience and so easy to defeat, even though up until that point the movie sets him up as this horrifying demon who can not only control other ghosts but freeze everything and lots of people at one time in a matter of an instant. Like the whole time I was waiting to see the guy in action and when he’s finally there he gets defeated so fast. I still like it, it’s just with a title like Frozen Empire you would expect that there’d be more time of everything being frozen and the ghost being shown as a leader of an empire of ghosts that attack the city. It sucks that such a cool idea and villain was wasted…
Yea I think that’s the only thing I wish there was more of. They do a-lot of setup which is fine. I could have went for a chase to the firehouse.
I didn't hate Frozen Empire, just didn't like it as much as I wanted to. Some of the subplots could've been cut, the Last Firebender felt unnecessary(since fire is what took out ghostgirl, she could've been the key to defeating Garrakka)&the damn Staypuffs shouldn't exist since Gozer is gone. Honestly a smaller more personal story would've been more interesting(not every case the GBs deal with is world ending, but the client is in extreme danger.) or if you were going big story, Dan Aykroyd's original part3 idea would've been a good direction, Hades as the villain & hellscape NY could've been cool. end of the day it was GB:Frozen Empire is a rental flick.
I do agree with you guys that maybe there are some thing that they could have changed, In terms of plot. And maybe had some of the other plot points make some impact on the film, but it is me I still think its fine and fun and I think both afterlife and frozen empire are definitely up there skipping the 2016 one.
Plus if you go by timeline wise like the first film of Ghostbusters, then Ghostbusters 2, followed by the video game (which I’m not gonna lie I consider it the third film of the franchise) afterlife and now frozen empire is part of it. Now if I was gonna do a follow up sequel to frozen empire I will probably incorporate some ideas from the Ghostbusters video game and have it where Goser does somehow make a return but with a different appearance and then possibly for the final confrontation where the state puff marshmallow man helps at Ghostbusters I guess this new reform gozer.
I'll be honest I count the XBox 360 game they made as a canon movie to the franchise. It's that good. Even Bill Murray sounds like he's not phoning it in.
Bill Murray was literally phoning it in when they made the game, to the point that Venkman disappears from the game because Prick Murray got bored working and left halfway through the voice over recording sessions. Its why the 2nd half of the game Venkman either says nothing or says things he already said because they could just recycle lines.
Still as good as his performance in Ghostbusters 2?
The game’s story was the closest we ever got to Ghostbusters in Hell (and it ruled)!
Can't wait for this guys!! I really like the OG Ghostbusters movie and thought afterlife was just ok. Haven't seen two yet but I've heard it's not that great.
I actually really liked it. Except the last big had fight was kinda lame. But nothing the new ones I feel kinda fall apart towards the end
Thank you Joe for speaking out about the people who shit on “nostalgia.” I can’t stand it when someone doesn’t like something that someone else likes and they get all cynical and snobby throwing around terms like “nostalgia” as a negative and then thinking they’re clever with “member berries” (fucking hate that term too). Fuck em!
Also, as a fellow Dr. O’Rourke (of the famous Trenton O’Rourkes…sorry, Lethal Weapon 2 reference), I’m glad to see a couple more of us! 😅
Am I the only that noticed the new proton packs from Winston’s research center were almost the exact color and style of the Real Ghostbusters animated proton packs??
Couldn’t tell you because they were on screen for about 2min.
@@MovieDumpster still though, it was a nice “surprise”, a bonus like you said
Ghostbusters 2016 gave me the mumps.
It kinda makes sense that they don't have a larger crew at this point considering the containment unit is practically full. Winston was holding off until the new facility is ready.
It seemed liked that containment unit was fully functional for a while.
@@MovieDumpster Could have been a case of Winston wanting to continue having people busting ghosts because he sees it as necessary, while simultaneously working on the new facility and hoping it's done before the firehouse containment unit is full (or something else goes wrong). Then he could expand operations and hire more people.
If there's another movie, I think we'll see the new facility completed and a larger Ghostbusting operation overall. I just hope they don't make the same mistake and spend too much time on secondary characters.
Still kinda weird he kept it a secret from the Spenglers though.
I liked the movie may have not been what we wanted but good none the lease.
You're complaining that they were using the ground floor of the firehouse for the same thing that it was used for originally?🤔
In the movie it’s covered in dust and abandoned, they only store the Ecto in there. I was expecting it to be fully used like in GB1 & 2 as I explain. -Sean
I think a better movie exists. I believe this was violently edited for an arbitrarily mandated theatrical runtime. It was shaved of moments that mattered. Moments it needs! I DO LOVE IT. I want to see what the trailers LIED TO ME about.
I've seen a few reviews and breakdowns etc so far and everyone says the same thing, it feels chopped up with little bits shaved off and missing everywhere.
They could have just made a 90 minute movie like every other Ghostbusters film...Its pretty obvious a movie like this didn't need to be anywhere close to 2hrs.
@@lutherheggs451 - It's MORE obvious it used to be LONGER before they hacked it to bits in the editing room.
Great video guys!
I still wish they just let the next harold ramis ghostbusters to be a thing and it was this, i wasn't disappointed but man just kept thinking what if cause of all the kids stuff.
Damn Skippy can't wait
The characters seemed to be stuck in a state of arrested development. They didn't have any arcs at all. Needed more development. Probably could have done better with less characters and the villain integrated into the plot better. I had fun watching the movie, but when I was explaining the movie to a friend I kept picking out all the flaws too easily. It made it sound like I hated the movie when it was an enjoyable time.
I feel like too much was crammed in for.... Reasons... I personally would've made changes to this film and had it as the sequel to being back in New York. I would've had a whole film dedicated to the family coming to New York and reestablishing the Ghostbusters and called it "back in business" while using Garaka as an over arching villain for the New York films. Frozen Empire could've been a dark mid piece where he destroys the firehouse and releases the ghosts and has his army while the team have to pick up the pieces and move to the new location. And the third film would be the Spenglers stepping into their roles as the new paranormal exterminators and eliminators
so it was fine and fun?
good guest, good episode boys
The sandworm from Beetlejuice has lips and a tongue. Case closed! 😂
People do love ❤ Ghostbusters
Sure, I'll just go to the cinema all the time, never mind that they closed the one nearest me and it'd cost a fortune to get to the next nearest, nevermind I can't afford food or electricity or anything else, we aren't all lucky enough to be able to do that mate.
Obviously situation willing, dude. Sorry to hear that.
always down to talk about ghostbusters
Of course😊😅😮❤🎉
Samhain used the containment unit in one of the real ghostbusters and took over the firehouse and they if i remember correct had to shoot a certain spot to get it to reverse
Probably never gonna get around to seeing it, but I liked hearing you guys discuss it.
I'm watching the movie right now and I fuckin hate it.
i want to see it but i’ve heard people say it’s mid
You should always see a flick for yourself.
More like Frozen Afternoon.
Also in real ghostbusters you had an old containment unit they had to fix it was the eiffel tower
There not twins
It does feel like they are taking stuff from the real ghostbusters
How long before someone gets the pistol proton pack from extreme ghostbusters
Kate McKinnon uses one in Ghostbusters 2016, so there’s that.
Why is everyone in the movie a ghostbuster now, it was so stupid. Didn't expect it to be great but it was kind of a giant turd
Was never a fan of the Ghostbusters not at all.
Yeah, same, 1 was good and the cartoon, rest is mid to awful.
Please you must get hack the movies tony he will lose his shit 😂
Pretty sure he’s doing his own review!
Eww no.
He just did a review.
Not really into Ghostbusters, 1 is obviously great, I'll give it a watch sometime maybe, sick to the back teeth if sequels, prequels, pre-sequels, requels and all the unoriginal, boring trash these days. I long for the 80's, yes, we had sequels but they were great and there was so much originality. Oswalt and Nunjiani suck, nothing to do with political stuff, they're just douchbags. Interesting how all these ancient people's were supposedly running around fighting demons and imprisoning them left right and centre but the modern word knows nothing about it apparently, then again, they all seemingly forgot about the events of the first and second films, so dumb.
Ghostbusters Frozen Empire felt empty and very unemotional
I genuinely enjoy 2016 Ghostbusters, because they did something different and it was funny. But little kids pretending to catch CGI frozen things, no thanks
But queef jokes and crap modern snl humour is fine?, ok.
@@scottneil1187 yes. humor and satire is much better than nostalgia and dumbass dead CGI harold