They really need to make the character limit bigger. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources I wanted to link in the description! comicsalliance.com/dazzler-movie-jim-shooter/ & jimshooter.com/2011/07/debut-of-dazzler.html/ - articles about the Dazzler film www.cbr.com/x-men-evolution-5th-season-phoenix-saga/ & thedorkreview.blogspot.com/2018/10/x-men-evolution-future-5th-season.html & web.archive.org/web/20080613164907/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/paur/ - articles about Evolution Season 5 ua-cam.com/video/XRaErO5vQfU/v-deo.html - Comic Drake's video on Psylocke web.archive.org/web/20190718201504/www.sega-16.com/2013/12/interview-john-pedigo/ - interview about X-Women www.denofgeek.com/tv/what-would-x-men-the-animated-series-season-6-look-like/ - article about the original X-Men Season 6 ua-cam.com/video/F7tDxOMmIr0/v-deo.html - Maddogg Comics' video on Avengers vs. X-Men comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/23/x-men-misfits/ & deadshirt.net/2015/06/25/ink-ladies-revisiting-the-kawaii-mutants-of-x-men-misfits/ - articles about Misfits www.cbr.com/x-men-colossus-related-to-grigori-rasputin/ - article about Colossus' relation with Rasputin ua-cam.com/video/gH7YvHk76y4/v-deo.html - Panels to Pixels' video on X-Women collider.com/20th-century-fox-superhero-movies/ & www.slashfilm.com/566967/x-men-vs-fantastic-four-movie/ - articles about the X-Men civil war film www.cbr.com/about-that-gay-iceman-scene/ & uproxx.com/hitfix/jean-grey-outs-iceman-in-all-new-x-men-40-in-shining-example-of-how-not-to-be-an-ally/ - articles about the Jean & Iceman situation www.cbr.com/avengers-scarlet-witch-parents-confusing-marvel/ - article about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents www.marvel.com/articles/comics/worst-things-professor-x-has-done-list - article about Prof X brainwashing Wolverine archives.fbi.gov/archives/losangeles/press-releases/2011/new-york-man-sentenced-to-one-year-in-federal-prison-for-illegally-uploading-copy-of-x-men-wolverine-movie-to-internet-site & web.archive.org/web/20090402012139/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm & web.archive.org/web/20201204025435/www.itnews.com.au/news/wolverine-uploader-pleads-guilty-251487 - articles about the X-Men Origins leak uncannyxmen.net/groups/x-babies - article about X-Babies ua-cam.com/video/qpLKiMgNbXY/v-deo.html - Mr Sunday Movies video on the X-Men Origins leak www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2013/06/07/history-of-the-comic-book-film-rise-from-x-tinction/ - blog about the 1984 film ua-cam.com/video/s57dSWUOomc/v-deo.html - Producers Guild of America video on the X-Men Origins leak web.archive.org/web/20180215143944/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-kitty-pryde-movie-works-deadpool-director-1084163 - article about the Kitty Pryde film uncannyxmen.net/characters/peeper/biography - article about Peepers ua-cam.com/video/Ukedo8Rs-Fs/v-deo.html - GodzillaMendoza's video on Generation X ua-cam.com/video/iDaJ9mBhlKI/v-deo.html - Everyday is Midnight's video on X-Men: Destiny lostmediawiki.com/X-Women:_The_Sinister_Virus_(lost_build_of_cancelled_Sega_Genesis/Mega_Drive_side-scrolling_action_game;_1996-1997) - article about X-Women www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1071905-exclusive-matthew-vaughn-wanted-young-wolverine-for-first-class-sequel - article about Matthew Vaughn's X-Men trilogy web.archive.org/web/20150227141334/ew.com/article/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/ - interview about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's relationship in the MCU www.ign.com/articles/deadpool-wolverine-tried-to-bring-vinnie-jones-juggernaut-into-the-mcu - article about Juggernaut in Deadpool & Wolverine web.archive.org/web/20170511152635/www.slashfilm.com/channing-tatum-would-like-to-play-gambit-in-an-x-men-movie/ & web.archive.org/web/20220204111115/variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/ & web.archive.org/web/20190403070756/www.comicsbeat.com/rupert-wyatt-on-how-the-fantastic-four-movie-messed-up-his-gambit-plans/ & web.archive.org/web/20171013065050/ew.com/movies/2017/10/12/channing-tatum-gambit-release-date/ & web.archive.org/web/20170606093149/www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20170612004556/lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit & archive.ph/20201224153305/www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/x-men-ff-and-marvel-crossovers-what-went-wrong-with-ff-and-where-the-hell-is-gambit-the-simon-kinberg-interview/ & web.archive.org/web/20200527173606/www.ign.com/articles/x-men-mister-sinister-gambit-movie-villain-channing-tatum-fox & web.archive.org/web/20170825225911/comicbook.com/2015/06/18/channing-tatum-talks-gambit-and-if-hell-be-in-x-men-apocalypse/ & web.archive.org/web/20170616141853/www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/high-anxiety-hollywood-mega-movies-828200 - articles about the Gambit film collider.com/the-new-mutants-sequel-trilogy-plans-details-josh-boone/ - article about New Mutants 2 & 3 www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-thunderbird-death/ - article about Thunderbird's original death comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/chuck-austens-x-men-holy-war/ - blog about Holy War www.splinter.com/a-brief-history-of-psylockes-complicated-and-racially-p-1793850095 - article about Psylocke's history comicsalliance.com/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-not-for-kids-or-adults-rev/ & www.ign.com/articles/2010/12/03/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-review - articles about The Best There Is collider.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron-wolverine/ - articles about James Cameron's X-Men ua-cam.com/video/tY-rvs3V2tU/v-deo.html - Channel NerdGasm's video on the Onslaught Saga comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/chuck-austens-x-men-she-lies-with-angels/ & www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-when-archangel-had-sex-with-a-teenager-in-the-sky-above-her-mom/- article/blog about She Lies with Angels ua-cam.com/video/o4d7ceVfP1M/v-deo.html - Jack's World's video on IvX deadline.com/2019/10/x-men-theme-song-lawsuit-marvel-disney-amazon-apple-linda-1202756336/ - article about the Linda lawsuit www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/logan-hugh-jackman-laura-movie-recasting-wolverine-1051147/ & lrmonline.com/news/simon-kinberg-on-the-future-of-foxs-mutant-franchise/ & web.archive.org/web/20181226084251/www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/x-23/52847/logan-heres-the-latest-on-the-x-23-spin-off-movie - articles about th X-23 film web.archive.org/web/20180804185714/deadline.com/2018/08/deadpool-animated-series-demise-louie-return-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-end-date-fx-1202440099/ & web.archive.org/web/20180406185349/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glover-rips-marvel-deadpool-script-exiting-animated-series-1098000 & web.archive.org/web/20180406185354/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glovers-full-deadpool-finale-script-1098022 & web.archive.org/web/20180325232249/deadline.com/2018/03/fx-marvels-deadpool-animated-tv-series-dead-donald-glover-canceled-1202352932/ & movieweb.com/why-donald-glover-deadpool-show-canceled/ & web.archive.org/web/20170511171220/deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-deadpool-animated-action-comedy-series-order-fxx-donald-glover-1202088704/ & web.archive.org/web/20180616001849/www.thewrap.com/stephen-glover-deadpool-show-wasnt-too-black-cut-taylor-swift-episode-donald-glover/ - articles about Deadpool: The Animated Series puzzledpagan.com/2018/03/16/that-time-the-x-men-solved-a-leprechaun-murder/ & puzzledpagan.com/2016/03/19/that-time-the-x-men-met-leprechauns/ - blogs about the X-Men and Leprechauns ua-cam.com/video/FOSd244Tumc/v-deo.html - Deadpool: The Animated Series test footage ua-cam.com/video/qHO6mhpe5lE/v-deo.html - Bullets & Blockbusters's video about Bryan Singer's X-Men 3 cbake76.medium.com/x-men-ashes-of-the-apocalypse-a-forgotten-90s-marvel-game-canceled-during-preproduction-9d53c05df147 - blog post about Ashes of the Apocalypse deadline.com/2017/11/james-franco-multiple-man-simon-kinberg-wonder-woman-allan-heinberg-fox-marvel-hero-1202209591/ - article about the Multiple Man film web.archive.org/web/20180408101051/www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20200131200520/screenrant.com/xmen-apocalypse-movie-failure-fox-new-mutants/ - articles about the original New Mutants ua-cam.com/video/uykjVgVwzkA/v-deo.html - Chris Baker's video on cancelled X-Men games web.archive.org/web/20140601014814/www.25moments.com/ - 25 Moments website ua-cam.com/video/P8lR7Ve10_s/v-deo.html - pitch trailer for Ashes of the Apocalypse
they also need to expand the character limit for comments too lmao. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources screenrant.com/x-men-stan-lee-sexism-banshee-origin-comics/ - article about the original Banshee www.writeups.org/wildside-marvel-comics-x-force/ - article about Wildside www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/x-men-a-beast-spinoff-was-pitched-fox-before-dark-phoenix-1218313/ & comicbook.com/marvel/news/x-men-pitched-spinoff-fear-the-beast-wolverine-wendigo-mr-sinister/ & www.flickeringmyth.com/plans-for-abandoned-x-men-beast-spin-off-movie-revealed/ - articles about Fear the Beast & Omega Red film conventionalrelations.net/2020/11/11/an-interview-with-robert-n-skir/ & web.archive.org/web/20080618153948/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/gordon/ - articles about the original X-Men: Evolution web.archive.org/web/20170606080821/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-apocalypse-james-mcavoy-898091 & www.radiotimes.com/movies/scifi/simon-kinberg-x-men-dark-phoenix-sequel-exclusive-newsupdate/ & comicbookmovie.com/x-men/new_mutants/new-mutants-3-wouldve-introduced-darkchilde-crossed-over-with-the-main-x-men-films-exclusive-a177671 - articles about the cancelled second prequel trilogy ua-cam.com/video/tIY1fq6E7o4/v-deo.html - Generation X film variety.com/2003/scene/markets-festivals/mutant-suits-multiply-1117894908/ & mutantxarchive.livejournal.com/130381.html & www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-mar-05-fi-mutant5-story.html & womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2017/06/mutant-x-vs-the-people/ & openjurist.org/277/f3d/253/twentieth-v-marvel & www.michigansthumb.com/news/article/Marvel-Fox-Settle-Over-X-Men-7360724.php - articles and blogs about Mutant X www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-mystery-villain/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-thunderbird-villain-cartoon/ - articles about Thunderbird and the bald dude in the opening www.cbr.com/left-unresolved-whatever-happened-to-the-neo/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-neo-lost-mutant-evolution/ - articles about the Neo www.slashfilm.com/542133/x-men-hellfire-club-premiere/ & variety.com/2016/tv/news/marvel-fox-series-matt-nix-pilot-commmitment-1201812851/ & web.archive.org/web/20151017013605/marvel.com/news/tv/25282/fox_in_development_on_hellfire_working_title uncannyxmen.net/characters/albert-elsie-dee - article about Albert www.digitalspy.com/movies/a31436672/x-men-movie-original-script-andrew-kevin-walker/ - article about Andrew Kevin Walker's X-Men film www.themarysue.com/x-men-nightcrawler-retcon-just-completed-claremonts-original-very-queer-vision/ & web.archive.org/web/20090705062905/www.afterellen.com/Print/2006/7/mystique.html?page=0%2C1 & www.cbr.com/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-14/ - articles about Nightcrawler's dad lostmediawiki.com/X-Men:_Mind_Games_(partially_found_build_of_cancelled_Sega_32X_action_game;_1995) & segaretro.org/X-Men_(32X) & www.unseen64.net/2009/04/23/x-men-32x-cancelled/ - articles about X-Men: Mind Games ua-cam.com/video/uQNaRTxDWQU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/KXRtAY5tUqM/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/wv2SXc06Wrk/v-deo.html - gameplay of Mind Games www.cbr.com/when-an-issue-of-wolverine-was-recalled-over-an-ethnic-slur/ & recalledcomics.com/Wolverine131Recalled.php - articles about the Viper slur incident web.archive.org/web/20170514193032/comicbook.com/2017/02/24/alpha-flight-exiles-and-more-are-on-x-men-movie-producers-radar - article about the Alpha Flight & Exiles films www.inverse.com/culture/daredevil-anniversary-20-years-ben-affleck - article about Ben Affleck's hatred for Daredevil 2003
@@chidaluokoro9104exactly and still is 😂 the only reason people even cared about him now was cause of xmen97 . Before that everyone really didn't care for him
@@sensaiuriah5440this is just incorrect. Cyclops has always been the badass leader with a heart of gold that people know him as. A large majority of comic fans and diehard X-men fans love Cyclops. Fox fumbled his character horribly which caused general movie audiences to think he’s boring and lame, but that doesn’t mean no one liked or cared about him.
Yeah so uh... a little thing you should know about the Insomniac leak that nobody talks about is that it also revealed that Insomniac was actually pressured by Sony into laying off some of it's employees.
Goddamn, there are A LOT of canceled scenes with Cyclops from the first X-Men movie What the hell did they have against him lol Also, they REALLY wanted Mr. Sinister to appear in the movies
Pigpen, I just wanted to say thank you for amazing content. I have enjoyed this video and it might be my new favorite. My dad and I are very big X-Men fans especially when we played the Mvs.C series. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this month and I miss him dearly. Again, thank you man for your content
To give Jeph Loeb the benefit of the doubt, Ultimates 3 was written while his Son, the person Sam Alexander is based on, was dying of bone cancer. That's why Ultimatum was Magneto grieving the loss of his kids and just wanting everything to die. Leob never recovered from his son's death
@@mawinstallation6626 Unfortunately yeah. I remember people being really divided about it cause no one really felt good about making dunks and memes on the internet about it for Obvious Reasons, which was a common way to cope with iffy writing. Just uncomfortable and unfortunate all around.
58:44 It is suspected that codename "143" is a reference to Uncanny X-Men #143. This would imply that the movie was supposed to be an adaptation of that issue, which was Alien-like survival horror featuring Kitty facing a lone N'Garai who broke into the X-mansion.
Now that I really think about it, the X-Men Film Series had SO MUCH missed potential. Scrapped characters, scenes, entire installments, surely at least some of them could've been utilized well. EDIT: I've come realize the root of this stems from most of Fox's decisions.
I’d put the X-Men movies in the same boat as the DCEU a lot of potential, definitely got some things right but was very hit or miss even then there was never a DCEU movie as good as DOFP
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 Sounds about right. The closest movie that could even get on par with DOFP is... maybe Wonder Woman, or technically Zack Snyder's Justice League. But the latter wasn't even part of the DCEU to begin with.
Seeing this video after watching Deadpool and Wolverine, the Gambit movie part of the video makes me wanna rewatch D&W again just for Gambit. They finally did my mans justice
@@LonelyGamer4 In the beginning of the year Scott the Woz stated that he'll do a LEGO video in Feburary, that video is still not released, in June Pigpen promised the X-Men Iceberg in late June, that actually happened.
The funniest part about the X-Men Origins: Wolverine leak is that fact that a Fox News reporter wrote a review of the leaked workprint for Fox and in it bragged about how easy it was to find on the internet. He was unsurprisingly fired after doing this.
@@tykamen5588Very true. Somehow they were able to make Wolverine do things that are WAY WORSE than literally trying to fuck a 15 year old girl cuz the Ultimate Universe was just obsessed with making iconic characters just absolutely terrible people, or mass murderers, or just degenerate perverts. (granted while inside a teenagers body, still doesn't make it any less weird tho)
Watch X-men 97 man. I didn’t watch the other seasons either and found it VERY easy to get into and understand the previous plot point. Hell they even explain it through exposition sometimes. All you gotta know is the X-men characters and that’s it
Im not gonna lie for a majority of your icebergs I have little to no knowledge on the subject youre talking about yet theyre still entertaining to watch
Hell yes, You've been my main source of sleep and background vid ever since I found you like a year ago, so you making a almost 4 hour iceberg is GREAT for me! Thx daddy pigpen
I still have issues with the Mystique and Destiny being Nightcrawler's moms (not against that pairing), its like the guy looks like the blue version of Azazel and has his same powers and all, why change that origin that made sense?
Much like DCEU's canceled plans being chalked up to Gunn's DCU, the FoX-Men ones can easily be summarized as "Because the Disney buyout." With both of these franchises, it would make for an interesting discussion, if these franchises would've done well or not, if these overhauls never happened.
The uppercase X and M in The Gifted's titles likely weren't eventually going to spell Xmen across future seasons, it's more likely just using X and M the usual way Marvel does, like with House of X, Powers of X, X-Gene, Xternals, etc. and M-Day, House of M, The Bishop timeline's M tattoo, etc.
2:19:31 Alot of Claremonts ideas that were previously rejected have been introduced in newer comics or adaptatios. Mystique being Kurt's father, Storm having loved Yukio, Kitty pryde and Rachel summers being Bisexual, a romance between Rahne Sinclair and Dani Moonstar.
Weirdest thing was definitely mutants can’t catch aids. Even for comic book standards that was just a crazy thing to bring up and never acknowledge. Great video as usual!
I would say I don't see it as outing but I also.dont see it as a good thing because if you think someone's gay you ask and they say no it is extremely wrong to keep pressing it
1:25:02 There are people saids that Teen Jean might’ve use her telepathic powers on teen Iceman and she made him thinks he’s gay. That is a possibility. Remember in All New X Men where Teen Warren freaks out about the present, he cries and wants to go back home into the past. And then Jean use her telepathic powers on Warren to forget about what he saw and forcing him to stay in the present along with the Original 5 X Men. Yeah that is pretty messed up, and this the Jean grey before she become the host of The Phoenix. And after Iceman come out as gay, that is only thing most writers do with him. Just Iceman reminds everyone he is gay. Iceman by Sina Grace was also controversial. Sina Grace claims he has different story ideas and Marvel editorial forces him to write Iceman comic.
@BroomPusher2024 You haven't read the comics. Because it's HEAVILY implied that Bobby is gay, even before Teen Jean outright says it. Like, Bobby and Emma have a whole training session about him learning to let go of his shame about being gay, in order to better control his powers.
@oshkeet yeah me too, i saw the problem being more that jean was invading bobby's personal information that had nothing to do with her, and then forcing him to face it as if she had a personal stake in it 😭
So fun fact. X men destiny was my intro into the bigger xmen universe as a kid and i never got far in the game cause i didn't know it had a save system. But it did end with me developing a crush on Pixie
There's also a rumour the theme song might've been inspired by a brazilian song from 84, I think this one sounds a lot more like the X-men theme, but I think it's all just a big coincidence. ua-cam.com/video/Kdaub59XgXM/v-deo.html
Another weird coincidence about the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver situation is that Elizabeth Olsen and AJT played a romantic couple in Godzilla 2014, right before Age of Ultron, which just adds to the weirdness of it all. Also, predictions for the Indiana Jones Iceberg -Weird Comic Storylines (such as the one that ends with Nazi Zombies or the Star Wars crossover.) -Weird Novel Storylines (Like the one where Indy finds living dinosaurs in Mongolia.) -Indy and Marion’s VERY uncomfortable age gap, as suggested by George Lucas.
Damn, Akom are the original Chads! They literally added a random bald dude in a green suit to the X-Men intro for no reason, and when asked to remove him they literally just said no! Like Jesus that is a level of confidence you just gotta respect 😂
Really enjoyed the video but I wish you included Chris Claremont original plans before he left the comics he had a big story line for the Shadow king being the real big bad for the series manipulating events for humans and Mutants to go to war and being the founder for the hellfire club also the dark Wolverine Saga where wolverine would be revealed to be mind control by the Hand and killed getting his heart ripped out and he's healing factor going into overdrive making him a new one and his body deteriorating because it's just focus on his heart there some other stuff but definitely those are the big 2 storylines I wish we got either way other great iceberg video
Thunderbird was always an X-Man, but Thunderbird II, aka Warpath, his younger brother, originally joined the Hellions to avenge his brother, whom he thought the X-Men got killed. Technically he was correct. This is the Warpath look as much as the Thunderbird look. The short bald guy is Gremlin. He's not a no-name character. He's actually an Iron Man villain (and a Hulk villain), but he is 100% a Mutant. Just.. a Soviet Mutant who built the Titanium Man armor and went crazy over it. He died fighting Iron Man during the Armor Wars.
@@JunAoi no it’s not Gremlin. That’s literally not him. Look it up or look at the sources I’ve given for the entry. People who worked on the show have said multiple times it’s just a random dude
That was actually really cool seeing Me. Tatum so sad with how his Gambit film went. It's always rad seeing an actor have that much passion for a character
I forgot just how bizarre the X-Men can be, to the point where it feels weird that they’re in the same setting as Spider-Man and the Avengers if I’m being honest. I never realized how many cancelled films there were. Just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the studio was prior to the Disney buyout. The Softserve entry broke my brain lmao. Perfect fodder character for a Deadpool story tbh. As for the Linda theme song situation, I’m inclined to believe it’s just a coincidence. The likelihood of the composer for X-Men watching an obscure (for North American audiences at least) post-Soviet Hungarian television show released just a couple years prior is… slim, to say the least. I enjoyed this video quite a bit! Always enjoy learning more about these kinds of topics. Looking forward to the Indiana Jones iceberg! I’ve always been a fan of that franchise despite only liking 2 out of the 5 films lol. The Emperor’s Tomb absolutely slaps to this day.
Deadpool and Wolverine Spoilers****** * * * * * Watching the Gambit movie part after seeing Deadpool and Wolverine last night makes me happy for Channing Tatum. Maybe they'll bring him back again.
1:43 also, thank you for mentioning Legion, that was my fav X-Men show in the entire 2010s, ESPECALLY that scene where David and Farouk singed Behind Blue Eyes, THATS how you do a mind battle
i dont know if youve watched the og xmen cartoon but you dont need to watch it to watch xmen 97, it adds up to the enjoyment but it aint super required, i watched it with having the vaguest memories of the og cartoon and i liked it a lot
I'm so so glad the gambit film didn't happen. I love the character and Tatum is such a horrible actor, I want the character done right, I don't care how big of a fan he is or if he can't do a Cajun accent. None of that matters if you can't act, and he sure as hell can't.
42:01 oh yea i remember when Bendis had Freddy Fazbear join the Avengers like a decade before was invented. That was almost as bad as when Wolverine joined what a cheap move to pander to Gen Z
With great irony, the long list of actors considered for Cable, missing the one actor who begged and pleaded to play the character, and actually looks the part: Stephen Lang.
Considering how huge the lore of the X-Men is, I wouldn't be surprised if the little guy from the 92 X-men intro turned out to be some kind of powerful mutant named Bald fuck, and that he has an omega level powers, he is Xavier's secret brother and he appeared only once in some forgotten annual issue.
You know what song I used to always hear when I heard the Xmen theme song. Whitney Houston I'm Your Baby Tonight. I used to always combine those songs when I was a kid
They really need to make the character limit bigger. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources I wanted to link in the description!
comicsalliance.com/dazzler-movie-jim-shooter/ & jimshooter.com/2011/07/debut-of-dazzler.html/ - articles about the Dazzler film
www.cbr.com/x-men-evolution-5th-season-phoenix-saga/ & thedorkreview.blogspot.com/2018/10/x-men-evolution-future-5th-season.html & web.archive.org/web/20080613164907/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/paur/ - articles about Evolution Season 5
ua-cam.com/video/XRaErO5vQfU/v-deo.html - Comic Drake's video on Psylocke
web.archive.org/web/20190718201504/www.sega-16.com/2013/12/interview-john-pedigo/ - interview about X-Women
www.denofgeek.com/tv/what-would-x-men-the-animated-series-season-6-look-like/ - article about the original X-Men Season 6
ua-cam.com/video/F7tDxOMmIr0/v-deo.html - Maddogg Comics' video on Avengers vs. X-Men
comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/23/x-men-misfits/ & deadshirt.net/2015/06/25/ink-ladies-revisiting-the-kawaii-mutants-of-x-men-misfits/ - articles about Misfits
www.cbr.com/x-men-colossus-related-to-grigori-rasputin/ - article about Colossus' relation with Rasputin
ua-cam.com/video/gH7YvHk76y4/v-deo.html - Panels to Pixels' video on X-Women
collider.com/20th-century-fox-superhero-movies/ & www.slashfilm.com/566967/x-men-vs-fantastic-four-movie/ - articles about the X-Men civil war film
www.cbr.com/about-that-gay-iceman-scene/ & uproxx.com/hitfix/jean-grey-outs-iceman-in-all-new-x-men-40-in-shining-example-of-how-not-to-be-an-ally/ - articles about the Jean & Iceman situation
www.cbr.com/avengers-scarlet-witch-parents-confusing-marvel/ - article about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents
www.marvel.com/articles/comics/worst-things-professor-x-has-done-list - article about Prof X brainwashing Wolverine
archives.fbi.gov/archives/losangeles/press-releases/2011/new-york-man-sentenced-to-one-year-in-federal-prison-for-illegally-uploading-copy-of-x-men-wolverine-movie-to-internet-site & web.archive.org/web/20090402012139/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm & web.archive.org/web/20201204025435/www.itnews.com.au/news/wolverine-uploader-pleads-guilty-251487 - articles about the X-Men Origins leak
uncannyxmen.net/groups/x-babies - article about X-Babies
ua-cam.com/video/qpLKiMgNbXY/v-deo.html - Mr Sunday Movies video on the X-Men Origins leak
www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2013/06/07/history-of-the-comic-book-film-rise-from-x-tinction/ - blog about the 1984 film
ua-cam.com/video/s57dSWUOomc/v-deo.html - Producers Guild of America video on the X-Men Origins leak
web.archive.org/web/20180215143944/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-kitty-pryde-movie-works-deadpool-director-1084163 - article about the Kitty Pryde film
uncannyxmen.net/characters/peeper/biography - article about Peepers
ua-cam.com/video/Ukedo8Rs-Fs/v-deo.html - GodzillaMendoza's video on Generation X
ua-cam.com/video/iDaJ9mBhlKI/v-deo.html - Everyday is Midnight's video on X-Men: Destiny
lostmediawiki.com/X-Women:_The_Sinister_Virus_(lost_build_of_cancelled_Sega_Genesis/Mega_Drive_side-scrolling_action_game;_1996-1997) - article about X-Women
www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1071905-exclusive-matthew-vaughn-wanted-young-wolverine-for-first-class-sequel - article about Matthew Vaughn's X-Men trilogy
web.archive.org/web/20150227141334/ew.com/article/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/ - interview about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's relationship in the MCU
www.ign.com/articles/deadpool-wolverine-tried-to-bring-vinnie-jones-juggernaut-into-the-mcu - article about Juggernaut in Deadpool & Wolverine
web.archive.org/web/20170511152635/www.slashfilm.com/channing-tatum-would-like-to-play-gambit-in-an-x-men-movie/ & web.archive.org/web/20220204111115/variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/ & web.archive.org/web/20190403070756/www.comicsbeat.com/rupert-wyatt-on-how-the-fantastic-four-movie-messed-up-his-gambit-plans/ & web.archive.org/web/20171013065050/ew.com/movies/2017/10/12/channing-tatum-gambit-release-date/ & web.archive.org/web/20170606093149/www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20170612004556/lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit & archive.ph/20201224153305/www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/x-men-ff-and-marvel-crossovers-what-went-wrong-with-ff-and-where-the-hell-is-gambit-the-simon-kinberg-interview/ & web.archive.org/web/20200527173606/www.ign.com/articles/x-men-mister-sinister-gambit-movie-villain-channing-tatum-fox & web.archive.org/web/20170825225911/comicbook.com/2015/06/18/channing-tatum-talks-gambit-and-if-hell-be-in-x-men-apocalypse/ & web.archive.org/web/20170616141853/www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/high-anxiety-hollywood-mega-movies-828200 - articles about the Gambit film
collider.com/the-new-mutants-sequel-trilogy-plans-details-josh-boone/ - article about New Mutants 2 & 3
www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-thunderbird-death/ - article about Thunderbird's original death
comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/chuck-austens-x-men-holy-war/ - blog about Holy War
www.splinter.com/a-brief-history-of-psylockes-complicated-and-racially-p-1793850095 - article about Psylocke's history
comicsalliance.com/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-not-for-kids-or-adults-rev/ & www.ign.com/articles/2010/12/03/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-review - articles about The Best There Is
collider.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron-wolverine/ - articles about James Cameron's X-Men
ua-cam.com/video/tY-rvs3V2tU/v-deo.html - Channel NerdGasm's video on the Onslaught Saga
comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/chuck-austens-x-men-she-lies-with-angels/ & www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-when-archangel-had-sex-with-a-teenager-in-the-sky-above-her-mom/- article/blog about She Lies with Angels
ua-cam.com/video/o4d7ceVfP1M/v-deo.html - Jack's World's video on IvX
deadline.com/2019/10/x-men-theme-song-lawsuit-marvel-disney-amazon-apple-linda-1202756336/ - article about the Linda lawsuit
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/logan-hugh-jackman-laura-movie-recasting-wolverine-1051147/ & lrmonline.com/news/simon-kinberg-on-the-future-of-foxs-mutant-franchise/ & web.archive.org/web/20181226084251/www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/x-23/52847/logan-heres-the-latest-on-the-x-23-spin-off-movie - articles about th X-23 film
web.archive.org/web/20180804185714/deadline.com/2018/08/deadpool-animated-series-demise-louie-return-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-end-date-fx-1202440099/ & web.archive.org/web/20180406185349/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glover-rips-marvel-deadpool-script-exiting-animated-series-1098000 & web.archive.org/web/20180406185354/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glovers-full-deadpool-finale-script-1098022 & web.archive.org/web/20180325232249/deadline.com/2018/03/fx-marvels-deadpool-animated-tv-series-dead-donald-glover-canceled-1202352932/ & movieweb.com/why-donald-glover-deadpool-show-canceled/ & web.archive.org/web/20170511171220/deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-deadpool-animated-action-comedy-series-order-fxx-donald-glover-1202088704/ & web.archive.org/web/20180616001849/www.thewrap.com/stephen-glover-deadpool-show-wasnt-too-black-cut-taylor-swift-episode-donald-glover/ - articles about Deadpool: The Animated Series
puzzledpagan.com/2018/03/16/that-time-the-x-men-solved-a-leprechaun-murder/ & puzzledpagan.com/2016/03/19/that-time-the-x-men-met-leprechauns/ - blogs about the X-Men and Leprechauns
ua-cam.com/video/FOSd244Tumc/v-deo.html - Deadpool: The Animated Series test footage
ua-cam.com/video/qHO6mhpe5lE/v-deo.html - Bullets & Blockbusters's video about Bryan Singer's X-Men 3
cbake76.medium.com/x-men-ashes-of-the-apocalypse-a-forgotten-90s-marvel-game-canceled-during-preproduction-9d53c05df147 - blog post about Ashes of the Apocalypse
deadline.com/2017/11/james-franco-multiple-man-simon-kinberg-wonder-woman-allan-heinberg-fox-marvel-hero-1202209591/ - article about the Multiple Man film
web.archive.org/web/20180408101051/www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20200131200520/screenrant.com/xmen-apocalypse-movie-failure-fox-new-mutants/ - articles about the original New Mutants
ua-cam.com/video/uykjVgVwzkA/v-deo.html - Chris Baker's video on cancelled X-Men games
web.archive.org/web/20140601014814/www.25moments.com/ - 25 Moments website
ua-cam.com/video/P8lR7Ve10_s/v-deo.html - pitch trailer for Ashes of the Apocalypse
they also need to expand the character limit for comments too lmao. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources
screenrant.com/x-men-stan-lee-sexism-banshee-origin-comics/ - article about the original Banshee
www.writeups.org/wildside-marvel-comics-x-force/ - article about Wildside
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/x-men-a-beast-spinoff-was-pitched-fox-before-dark-phoenix-1218313/ & comicbook.com/marvel/news/x-men-pitched-spinoff-fear-the-beast-wolverine-wendigo-mr-sinister/ & www.flickeringmyth.com/plans-for-abandoned-x-men-beast-spin-off-movie-revealed/ - articles about Fear the Beast & Omega Red film
conventionalrelations.net/2020/11/11/an-interview-with-robert-n-skir/ & web.archive.org/web/20080618153948/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/gordon/ - articles about the original X-Men: Evolution
web.archive.org/web/20170606080821/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-apocalypse-james-mcavoy-898091 & www.radiotimes.com/movies/scifi/simon-kinberg-x-men-dark-phoenix-sequel-exclusive-newsupdate/ & comicbookmovie.com/x-men/new_mutants/new-mutants-3-wouldve-introduced-darkchilde-crossed-over-with-the-main-x-men-films-exclusive-a177671 - articles about the cancelled second prequel trilogy
ua-cam.com/video/tIY1fq6E7o4/v-deo.html - Generation X film
variety.com/2003/scene/markets-festivals/mutant-suits-multiply-1117894908/ & mutantxarchive.livejournal.com/130381.html & www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-mar-05-fi-mutant5-story.html & womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2017/06/mutant-x-vs-the-people/ & openjurist.org/277/f3d/253/twentieth-v-marvel & www.michigansthumb.com/news/article/Marvel-Fox-Settle-Over-X-Men-7360724.php - articles and blogs about Mutant X
www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-mystery-villain/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-thunderbird-villain-cartoon/ - articles about Thunderbird and the bald dude in the opening
www.cbr.com/left-unresolved-whatever-happened-to-the-neo/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-neo-lost-mutant-evolution/ - articles about the Neo
www.slashfilm.com/542133/x-men-hellfire-club-premiere/ & variety.com/2016/tv/news/marvel-fox-series-matt-nix-pilot-commmitment-1201812851/ & web.archive.org/web/20151017013605/marvel.com/news/tv/25282/fox_in_development_on_hellfire_working_title
uncannyxmen.net/characters/albert-elsie-dee - article about Albert
www.digitalspy.com/movies/a31436672/x-men-movie-original-script-andrew-kevin-walker/ - article about Andrew Kevin Walker's X-Men film
www.themarysue.com/x-men-nightcrawler-retcon-just-completed-claremonts-original-very-queer-vision/ & web.archive.org/web/20090705062905/www.afterellen.com/Print/2006/7/mystique.html?page=0%2C1 & www.cbr.com/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-14/ - articles about Nightcrawler's dad
lostmediawiki.com/X-Men:_Mind_Games_(partially_found_build_of_cancelled_Sega_32X_action_game;_1995) & segaretro.org/X-Men_(32X) & www.unseen64.net/2009/04/23/x-men-32x-cancelled/ - articles about X-Men: Mind Games
ua-cam.com/video/uQNaRTxDWQU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/KXRtAY5tUqM/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/wv2SXc06Wrk/v-deo.html - gameplay of Mind Games
www.cbr.com/when-an-issue-of-wolverine-was-recalled-over-an-ethnic-slur/ & recalledcomics.com/Wolverine131Recalled.php - articles about the Viper slur incident
web.archive.org/web/20170514193032/comicbook.com/2017/02/24/alpha-flight-exiles-and-more-are-on-x-men-movie-producers-radar - article about the Alpha Flight & Exiles films
www.inverse.com/culture/daredevil-anniversary-20-years-ben-affleck - article about Ben Affleck's hatred for Daredevil 2003
1st Person who isn't Pigpen!
Now no 1 can say 1st lol😂
Common posted two hours ago, but this video has been out for under an hour that doesn’t make sense
@@SuperCeleste007i commented the extra links while the video was unlisted
Gotta love how much they overcomplicated something as simple as wolverine accepting charles' proposal to join the X-Men
The deleted scenes from X-Men 1 and 2 really show how biased Fox was AGAINST CYCLOPS
But why tho?
@@jackcouch8322 because wolverine was popular
@@chidaluokoro9104exactly and still is 😂 the only reason people even cared about him now was cause of xmen97 . Before that everyone really didn't care for him
@@sensaiuriah5440this is just incorrect. Cyclops has always been the badass leader with a heart of gold that people know him as. A large majority of comic fans and diehard X-men fans love Cyclops. Fox fumbled his character horribly which caused general movie audiences to think he’s boring and lame, but that doesn’t mean no one liked or cared about him.
@@tanmanstudios Yeah, I was in the group that liked him before it was cool. I'm just so glad others agree on that statement finally
After watching Deadpool and Wolverine, I'm just really happy for Channing Tatum
Same here
I hope directors see that channing-gambit is becoming a fan favourite and make his movie
Let’s go, it’s 10-men time 😊
I literally thought thid exact words when i saw the video, get out of my head.
G men
To me my 10-men
axe-men shut up
Just 10? I thought there were more
Yeah so uh... a little thing you should know about the Insomniac leak that nobody talks about is that it also revealed that Insomniac was actually pressured by Sony into laying off some of it's employees.
That's undeniably scummy.
God, that's disgusting of Sony.
layoffs are getting worse and worse
@@chidaluokoro9104ccdfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff DDC gg
Sony is the EA of well... themselves.
Goddamn, there are A LOT of canceled scenes with Cyclops from the first X-Men movie
What the hell did they have against him lol
Also, they REALLY wanted Mr. Sinister to appear in the movies
He's not Wolverine.
@@lucariopokemon13bingo.
My boy scott summers really getting dirty in the films huh?
Cause he's lame 😂
@@sensaiuriah5440 Shut up Logan.
Pigpen, I just wanted to say thank you for amazing content. I have enjoyed this video and it might be my new favorite. My dad and I are very big X-Men fans especially when we played the Mvs.C series. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this month and I miss him dearly. Again, thank you man for your content
I'm sorry to hear that. It's never losing somebody close to you, especially a parent. Sorry for your loss
@@Pigpen_YT thanks for the comfort man
Awesome iceberg. Learned a lot of new things about our merry band of mutants. And thanks for the shout-out. Very kind of you!
To give Jeph Loeb the benefit of the doubt, Ultimates 3 was written while his Son, the person Sam Alexander is based on, was dying of bone cancer.
That's why Ultimatum was Magneto grieving the loss of his kids and just wanting everything to die. Leob never recovered from his son's death
Don't want to throw shade to Loeb, but after his sons's passing, his writing quality declined brutally. Very sad.
@@mawinstallation6626 Unfortunately yeah. I remember people being really divided about it cause no one really felt good about making dunks and memes on the internet about it for Obvious Reasons, which was a common way to cope with iffy writing. Just uncomfortable and unfortunate all around.
Freddy Fazbear was always my favorite X-men member
42:00 why is Freddy fazbear just there
He’s part of the avengers 🙄
Only real Wolverine fans tried to make fake claws out of pencils/nails as a kid lol
And straws
Kitchen knives
Kitchen knives
Really anything you could fit between your fingers.
58:44 It is suspected that codename "143" is a reference to Uncanny X-Men #143. This would imply that the movie was supposed to be an adaptation of that issue, which was Alien-like survival horror featuring Kitty facing a lone N'Garai who broke into the X-mansion.
143 is also common shorthand for I love you. not that its significant to the project but w/e
I find it interesting that the voice of Solid Snake himself David Hayter wrote the screenplay of the early X-Men films.
I thought that was a different David Hayter.
Never thought that Xavier and Magneto’s kid would try and bring about Human Instrumentality, but it’s nice to see that he’s got a hobby or two.
Yeah also can't believe he got a deal to appear as a villain in a Capcom game!
42:05 IS THAT FREDDY FAZBEAR!? AUR AUR AUR AUR!!
So is he a member of the X-Men or the avengers
@@discmanthecdlord I'd say both
@@discmanthecdlordFreddy fazbear is a mutant confirmed
He is very clearly a member of the super soldier program.
Now that I really think about it, the X-Men Film Series had SO MUCH missed potential. Scrapped characters, scenes, entire installments, surely at least some of them could've been utilized well.
EDIT: I've come realize the root of this stems from most of Fox's decisions.
I’d put the X-Men movies in the same boat as the DCEU a lot of potential, definitely got some things right but was very hit or miss even then there was never a DCEU movie as good as DOFP
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 The Suicide Squad
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 Sounds about right. The closest movie that could even get on par with DOFP is... maybe Wonder Woman, or technically Zack Snyder's Justice League. But the latter wasn't even part of the DCEU to begin with.
Seeing this video after watching Deadpool and Wolverine, the Gambit movie part of the video makes me wanna rewatch D&W again just for Gambit. They finally did my mans justice
I love how unexpectedly happy the ending of Eye-Scream's story is. From obscure joke villain to an honorary X-Man.
Glad that Pigpen kept his word when he mentioned "Late June", otherwise the video will meet the same fate as Scott the Woz's LEGO video.
Huh?
@@LonelyGamer4 In the beginning of the year Scott the Woz stated that he'll do a LEGO video in Feburary, that video is still not released, in June Pigpen promised the X-Men Iceberg in late June, that actually happened.
@@r3n3gad33 thanks
Yeah idk if he's even making that vid anymore, I hope so
X-men on the last day of Pride? Going off with a bang
* extends pride month to be pride existance. *
Kitty Pride cheering
Pryde month
What's Pride?
@@vaux144 Pride month
How many people were going to play Mister Sinister in canceled projects
Antonio freaking Banderas was going to play him at some point
almost 4 hours?!?!?!?! holy shit, we've been blessed by daddy pigpen
The funniest part about the X-Men Origins: Wolverine leak is that fact that a Fox News reporter wrote a review of the leaked workprint for Fox and in it bragged about how easy it was to find on the internet. He was unsurprisingly fired after doing this.
Ultimate Wolverine think he Firecracker from The Boys
2:54:28
"And at this time, Mary Jane was 15 years old"
Peter Parker: "Shhh, I hear dead people..."
Unfortunately, it’s not the worst thing ultimate wolverine has done.
@@tykamen5588Very true. Somehow they were able to make Wolverine do things that are WAY WORSE than literally trying to fuck a 15 year old girl cuz the Ultimate Universe was just obsessed with making iconic characters just absolutely terrible people, or mass murderers, or just degenerate perverts. (granted while inside a teenagers body, still doesn't make it any less weird tho)
You better not ever go to cell block 1
1, it's I see dead people and 2, the kdot/drake jokes are getting old 😂
"Shh, I hear dead people ....." is pretty much Issue 655 of Amazing Spider-man, I love that one so much.
Fun fact: David Hayter also helped write Watchmen
Fun fact: David Hayter is also salad snack
@@BJ-zf6tqand the guyver.
@@BJ-zf6tq This is snake, colonel, do you read me ?
Watch X-men 97 man. I didn’t watch the other seasons either and found it VERY easy to get into and understand the previous plot point. Hell they even explain it through exposition sometimes. All you gotta know is the X-men characters and that’s it
Im not gonna lie for a majority of your icebergs I have little to no knowledge on the subject youre talking about yet theyre still entertaining to watch
Hell yes, You've been my main source of sleep and background vid ever since I found you like a year ago, so you making a almost 4 hour iceberg is GREAT for me! Thx daddy pigpen
I still have issues with the Mystique and Destiny being Nightcrawler's moms (not against that pairing), its like the guy looks like the blue version of Azazel and has his same powers and all, why change that origin that made sense?
Much like DCEU's canceled plans being chalked up to Gunn's DCU, the FoX-Men ones can easily be summarized as "Because the Disney buyout." With both of these franchises, it would make for an interesting discussion, if these franchises would've done well or not, if these overhauls never happened.
My ADHD was satisfied for 4 hours...back to rewatching the old icebergs 🔥🔥🔥
The uppercase X and M in The Gifted's titles likely weren't eventually going to spell Xmen across future seasons, it's more likely just using X and M the usual way Marvel does, like with House of X, Powers of X, X-Gene, Xternals, etc. and M-Day, House of M, The Bishop timeline's M tattoo, etc.
Correct. X for Xavier/X-Men, M for Magneto/Mutant
Let's go! Gonna watch this while grinding out the last of this Double XP weekend in COD
Literally was doing the exact same thing as this video was uploading
2:19:31 Alot of Claremonts ideas that were previously rejected have been introduced in newer comics or adaptatios. Mystique being Kurt's father, Storm having loved Yukio, Kitty pryde and Rachel summers being Bisexual, a romance between Rahne Sinclair and Dani Moonstar.
Olsen and Taylor-Johnson have actually played a couple in 2014’s Godzilla so they kinda have experience in that field
my autistic special interest in xmen loves this
2:54:57 dr disrespect mommet
“Emma doing a little bit of trolling” is the best way to describe that era lmfaoooooo
Honorable mention: ForgetMeNot
Who?
Who?
Who?
It’s time.
Time to waste my next 3 and a half hours.
Thank you for your service Mr. Pen
*spend 3 hours extremely well
Deadpool telling his story to Fred savage on Christmas as a kid friendly version is the most deadpool thing ever😂
Weirdest thing was definitely mutants can’t catch aids. Even for comic book standards that was just a crazy thing to bring up and never acknowledge. Great video as usual!
Wow, never even heard about Generation-X pilot, even tho l i love all these early attempts at super hero media, fascinating
It’s a fun watch
Rick Remender’s X-Force run is one of the best comic runs ever I would’ve been interested to see how they took inspiration from that for the movie
I would say I don't see it as outing but I also.dont see it as a good thing because if you think someone's gay you ask and they say no it is extremely wrong to keep pressing it
1:25:02 There are people saids that Teen Jean might’ve use her telepathic powers on teen Iceman and she made him thinks he’s gay.
That is a possibility.
Remember in All New X Men where Teen Warren freaks out about the present, he cries and wants to go back home into the past. And then Jean use her telepathic powers on Warren to forget about what he saw and forcing him to stay in the present along with the Original 5 X Men.
Yeah that is pretty messed up, and this the Jean grey before she become the host of The Phoenix.
And after Iceman come out as gay, that is only thing most writers do with him. Just Iceman reminds everyone he is gay.
Iceman by Sina Grace was also controversial. Sina Grace claims he has different story ideas and Marvel editorial forces him to write Iceman comic.
And also might be a form of gaslighting with how she refuses to think Bobbie's just bi-sexual
I always thought the conflict was more Jean shouldn't nose into people's personal thoughts without permission, esp heavy stuff like that
@BroomPusher2024 You haven't read the comics. Because it's HEAVILY implied that Bobby is gay, even before Teen Jean outright says it. Like, Bobby and Emma have a whole training session about him learning to let go of his shame about being gay, in order to better control his powers.
@oshkeet yeah me too, i saw the problem being more that jean was invading bobby's personal information that had nothing to do with her, and then forcing him to face it as if she had a personal stake in it 😭
So fun fact. X men destiny was my intro into the bigger xmen universe as a kid and i never got far in the game cause i didn't know it had a save system.
But it did end with me developing a crush on Pixie
Mutant and proud to be a fan of you pigpen thanks for another banger happy pride 😤🥳🎉
2:55:49 Pigpen, I love you man, but don't jumpscare me like this ever again
6:35 oh boy, sweet home Alabama
“out of the kindness of his redditor heart” 💀
3:52:40 I'm one of the 3 people who actually got to this part of the video
59:40 "Hnng Colonel, who the hell is this Bishop guy?"
There's also a rumour the theme song might've been inspired by a brazilian song from 84, I think this one sounds a lot more like the X-men theme, but I think it's all just a big coincidence.
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So glad channing got his role after all this time
2:27:20 The only Marvel character that stays dead is Uncle Ben. We all know that.
Along with Jack Murdock, T'Chaka, George Stacy, and Captain Mar-Vell.
Another weird coincidence about the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver situation is that Elizabeth Olsen and AJT played a romantic couple in Godzilla 2014, right before Age of Ultron, which just adds to the weirdness of it all.
Also, predictions for the Indiana Jones Iceberg
-Weird Comic Storylines (such as the one that ends with Nazi Zombies or the Star Wars crossover.)
-Weird Novel Storylines (Like the one where Indy finds living dinosaurs in Mongolia.)
-Indy and Marion’s VERY uncomfortable age gap, as suggested by George Lucas.
Idk what my fav Xmen is but ill comment 5 times to boost this vid cuz you deserve it. Your icebergs help me sleep
Damn, Akom are the original Chads! They literally added a random bald dude in a green suit to the X-Men intro for no reason, and when asked to remove him they literally just said no! Like Jesus that is a level of confidence you just gotta respect 😂
as a jean grey apologist and gay man; the iceman outing and memes joking about jean being homophobic is hilarious to me.
Thank you so much for blessing us with this!! Your content is fantastic and I appreciate everything that you do!
7:19 nahhhh Hank must’ve beaten wasp so bad that she really normalised this 😭💀
Literally needed a new video to listen to while delivering for Amazon 🎉
Hope Amazon isn’t mistreating you
Really enjoyed the video but I wish you included Chris Claremont original plans before he left the comics he had a big story line for the Shadow king being the real big bad for the series manipulating events for humans and Mutants to go to war and being the founder for the hellfire club also the dark Wolverine Saga where wolverine would be revealed to be mind control by the Hand and killed getting his heart ripped out and he's healing factor going into overdrive making him a new one and his body deteriorating because it's just focus on his heart there some other stuff but definitely those are the big 2 storylines I wish we got either way other great iceberg video
I recently watched the X-Men anime and I thought it was really stinky
Thunderbird was always an X-Man, but Thunderbird II, aka Warpath, his younger brother, originally joined the Hellions to avenge his brother, whom he thought the X-Men got killed. Technically he was correct. This is the Warpath look as much as the Thunderbird look.
The short bald guy is Gremlin. He's not a no-name character. He's actually an Iron Man villain (and a Hulk villain), but he is 100% a Mutant. Just.. a Soviet Mutant who built the Titanium Man armor and went crazy over it. He died fighting Iron Man during the Armor Wars.
@@JunAoi no it’s not Gremlin. That’s literally not him. Look it up or look at the sources I’ve given for the entry. People who worked on the show have said multiple times it’s just a random dude
That was actually really cool seeing Me. Tatum so sad with how his Gambit film went. It's always rad seeing an actor have that much passion for a character
I forgot just how bizarre the X-Men can be, to the point where it feels weird that they’re in the same setting as Spider-Man and the Avengers if I’m being honest.
I never realized how many cancelled films there were. Just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the studio was prior to the Disney buyout.
The Softserve entry broke my brain lmao. Perfect fodder character for a Deadpool story tbh.
As for the Linda theme song situation, I’m inclined to believe it’s just a coincidence. The likelihood of the composer for X-Men watching an obscure (for North American audiences at least) post-Soviet Hungarian television show released just a couple years prior is… slim, to say the least.
I enjoyed this video quite a bit! Always enjoy learning more about these kinds of topics. Looking forward to the Indiana Jones iceberg! I’ve always been a fan of that franchise despite only liking 2 out of the 5 films lol. The Emperor’s Tomb absolutely slaps to this day.
Bro, the nostalgia that xmen video game music in the background is waking up is, epic!!💯🤌🏾
Poor forgetmenot always forgotten
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Watching the Gambit movie part after seeing Deadpool and Wolverine last night makes me happy for Channing Tatum. Maybe they'll bring him back again.
1:43 also, thank you for mentioning Legion, that was my fav X-Men show in the entire 2010s, ESPECALLY that scene where David and Farouk singed Behind Blue Eyes, THATS how you do a mind battle
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We really deserved the gambit film :(
i dont know if youve watched the og xmen cartoon but you dont need to watch it to watch xmen 97, it adds up to the enjoyment but it aint super required, i watched it with having the vaguest memories of the og cartoon and i liked it a lot
Hate it when UA-camrs try to stretch out the video past the 10 minute mark 🙄
Only in comics can they make wolverine meeting Prof. X and agreeing to join the X-MEN and make it complicated for no reason.
I'm so so glad the gambit film didn't happen. I love the character and Tatum is such a horrible actor, I want the character done right, I don't care how big of a fan he is or if he can't do a Cajun accent. None of that matters if you can't act, and he sure as hell can't.
What is that Rodney sound bite at 3:25:29 ? Is that a Mr Sunday Movies/ Caravan of Garbage reference?
Been waiting for this one love your content
Also my favorite xmen is kitty pride
42:01 oh yea i remember when Bendis had Freddy Fazbear join the Avengers like a decade before was invented. That was almost as bad as when Wolverine joined what a cheap move to pander to Gen Z
Sucks that Freddy Fazbear can't fight alongside the X-Men when they're fighting Magneto, though.
Nintendo giga leak was genuinely cool
The insomniac leak was scummy af
When I saw X-Men misfits I recoiled because if I saw that on a bookshelf when I was a teen I would definitely have read it.
Pigpen dropping another amazing iceberg…. Because of the Disney fox buyout
“Helped him come out by helping him realize who he is”
That’s definitely a very white woman way to look at it 😂
With great irony, the long list of actors considered for Cable, missing the one actor who begged and pleaded to play the character, and actually looks the part: Stephen Lang.
Sheldon cooper would go crazy over the xmen and star trek crossover
It’s disappointing that we lost the X-Force movies in the buyout, but also a whole Deadpool movie about saving Xmas would’ve sucked lol
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IS THAT THE BYTE OF X?!
The gifted is my roman empire tbh ill never get over the final cliffhanger 😪
A great way to end a great June!
took me a few days to finish out the video but it was another awesome one man - keep up the good work, can’t wait for Indy!
Considering how huge the lore of the X-Men is, I wouldn't be surprised if the little guy from the 92 X-men intro turned out to be some kind of powerful mutant named Bald fuck, and that he has an omega level powers, he is Xavier's secret brother and he appeared only once in some forgotten annual issue.
You know what song I used to always hear when I heard the Xmen theme song.
Whitney Houston I'm Your Baby Tonight.
I used to always combine those songs when I was a kid
1:58:09 Damn this deep into the iceberg and just two Marvel Vs Capcom references oof
It’s funny that 2 Wolverine projects have been severely leaked 😂
It's also funny how many times Australia before Hugh was cast
Let’s go save me from boredom pigpen coming with the clutch