They really need to make the character limit bigger. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources I wanted to link in the description! comicsalliance.com/dazzler-movie-jim-shooter/ & jimshooter.com/2011/07/debut-of-dazzler.html/ - articles about the Dazzler film www.cbr.com/x-men-evolution-5th-season-phoenix-saga/ & thedorkreview.blogspot.com/2018/10/x-men-evolution-future-5th-season.html & web.archive.org/web/20080613164907/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/paur/ - articles about Evolution Season 5 ua-cam.com/video/XRaErO5vQfU/v-deo.html - Comic Drake's video on Psylocke web.archive.org/web/20190718201504/www.sega-16.com/2013/12/interview-john-pedigo/ - interview about X-Women www.denofgeek.com/tv/what-would-x-men-the-animated-series-season-6-look-like/ - article about the original X-Men Season 6 ua-cam.com/video/F7tDxOMmIr0/v-deo.html - Maddogg Comics' video on Avengers vs. X-Men comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/23/x-men-misfits/ & deadshirt.net/2015/06/25/ink-ladies-revisiting-the-kawaii-mutants-of-x-men-misfits/ - articles about Misfits www.cbr.com/x-men-colossus-related-to-grigori-rasputin/ - article about Colossus' relation with Rasputin ua-cam.com/video/gH7YvHk76y4/v-deo.html - Panels to Pixels' video on X-Women collider.com/20th-century-fox-superhero-movies/ & www.slashfilm.com/566967/x-men-vs-fantastic-four-movie/ - articles about the X-Men civil war film www.cbr.com/about-that-gay-iceman-scene/ & uproxx.com/hitfix/jean-grey-outs-iceman-in-all-new-x-men-40-in-shining-example-of-how-not-to-be-an-ally/ - articles about the Jean & Iceman situation www.cbr.com/avengers-scarlet-witch-parents-confusing-marvel/ - article about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents www.marvel.com/articles/comics/worst-things-professor-x-has-done-list - article about Prof X brainwashing Wolverine archives.fbi.gov/archives/losangeles/press-releases/2011/new-york-man-sentenced-to-one-year-in-federal-prison-for-illegally-uploading-copy-of-x-men-wolverine-movie-to-internet-site & web.archive.org/web/20090402012139/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm & web.archive.org/web/20201204025435/www.itnews.com.au/news/wolverine-uploader-pleads-guilty-251487 - articles about the X-Men Origins leak uncannyxmen.net/groups/x-babies - article about X-Babies ua-cam.com/video/qpLKiMgNbXY/v-deo.html - Mr Sunday Movies video on the X-Men Origins leak www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2013/06/07/history-of-the-comic-book-film-rise-from-x-tinction/ - blog about the 1984 film ua-cam.com/video/s57dSWUOomc/v-deo.html - Producers Guild of America video on the X-Men Origins leak web.archive.org/web/20180215143944/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-kitty-pryde-movie-works-deadpool-director-1084163 - article about the Kitty Pryde film uncannyxmen.net/characters/peeper/biography - article about Peepers ua-cam.com/video/Ukedo8Rs-Fs/v-deo.html - GodzillaMendoza's video on Generation X ua-cam.com/video/iDaJ9mBhlKI/v-deo.html - Everyday is Midnight's video on X-Men: Destiny lostmediawiki.com/X-Women:_The_Sinister_Virus_(lost_build_of_cancelled_Sega_Genesis/Mega_Drive_side-scrolling_action_game;_1996-1997) - article about X-Women www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1071905-exclusive-matthew-vaughn-wanted-young-wolverine-for-first-class-sequel - article about Matthew Vaughn's X-Men trilogy web.archive.org/web/20150227141334/ew.com/article/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/ - interview about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's relationship in the MCU www.ign.com/articles/deadpool-wolverine-tried-to-bring-vinnie-jones-juggernaut-into-the-mcu - article about Juggernaut in Deadpool & Wolverine web.archive.org/web/20170511152635/www.slashfilm.com/channing-tatum-would-like-to-play-gambit-in-an-x-men-movie/ & web.archive.org/web/20220204111115/variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/ & web.archive.org/web/20190403070756/www.comicsbeat.com/rupert-wyatt-on-how-the-fantastic-four-movie-messed-up-his-gambit-plans/ & web.archive.org/web/20171013065050/ew.com/movies/2017/10/12/channing-tatum-gambit-release-date/ & web.archive.org/web/20170606093149/www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20170612004556/lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit & archive.ph/20201224153305/www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/x-men-ff-and-marvel-crossovers-what-went-wrong-with-ff-and-where-the-hell-is-gambit-the-simon-kinberg-interview/ & web.archive.org/web/20200527173606/www.ign.com/articles/x-men-mister-sinister-gambit-movie-villain-channing-tatum-fox & web.archive.org/web/20170825225911/comicbook.com/2015/06/18/channing-tatum-talks-gambit-and-if-hell-be-in-x-men-apocalypse/ & web.archive.org/web/20170616141853/www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/high-anxiety-hollywood-mega-movies-828200 - articles about the Gambit film collider.com/the-new-mutants-sequel-trilogy-plans-details-josh-boone/ - article about New Mutants 2 & 3 www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-thunderbird-death/ - article about Thunderbird's original death comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/chuck-austens-x-men-holy-war/ - blog about Holy War www.splinter.com/a-brief-history-of-psylockes-complicated-and-racially-p-1793850095 - article about Psylocke's history comicsalliance.com/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-not-for-kids-or-adults-rev/ & www.ign.com/articles/2010/12/03/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-review - articles about The Best There Is collider.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron-wolverine/ - articles about James Cameron's X-Men ua-cam.com/video/tY-rvs3V2tU/v-deo.html - Channel NerdGasm's video on the Onslaught Saga comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/chuck-austens-x-men-she-lies-with-angels/ & www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-when-archangel-had-sex-with-a-teenager-in-the-sky-above-her-mom/- article/blog about She Lies with Angels ua-cam.com/video/o4d7ceVfP1M/v-deo.html - Jack's World's video on IvX deadline.com/2019/10/x-men-theme-song-lawsuit-marvel-disney-amazon-apple-linda-1202756336/ - article about the Linda lawsuit www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/logan-hugh-jackman-laura-movie-recasting-wolverine-1051147/ & lrmonline.com/news/simon-kinberg-on-the-future-of-foxs-mutant-franchise/ & web.archive.org/web/20181226084251/www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/x-23/52847/logan-heres-the-latest-on-the-x-23-spin-off-movie - articles about th X-23 film web.archive.org/web/20180804185714/deadline.com/2018/08/deadpool-animated-series-demise-louie-return-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-end-date-fx-1202440099/ & web.archive.org/web/20180406185349/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glover-rips-marvel-deadpool-script-exiting-animated-series-1098000 & web.archive.org/web/20180406185354/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glovers-full-deadpool-finale-script-1098022 & web.archive.org/web/20180325232249/deadline.com/2018/03/fx-marvels-deadpool-animated-tv-series-dead-donald-glover-canceled-1202352932/ & movieweb.com/why-donald-glover-deadpool-show-canceled/ & web.archive.org/web/20170511171220/deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-deadpool-animated-action-comedy-series-order-fxx-donald-glover-1202088704/ & web.archive.org/web/20180616001849/www.thewrap.com/stephen-glover-deadpool-show-wasnt-too-black-cut-taylor-swift-episode-donald-glover/ - articles about Deadpool: The Animated Series puzzledpagan.com/2018/03/16/that-time-the-x-men-solved-a-leprechaun-murder/ & puzzledpagan.com/2016/03/19/that-time-the-x-men-met-leprechauns/ - blogs about the X-Men and Leprechauns ua-cam.com/video/FOSd244Tumc/v-deo.html - Deadpool: The Animated Series test footage ua-cam.com/video/qHO6mhpe5lE/v-deo.html - Bullets & Blockbusters's video about Bryan Singer's X-Men 3 cbake76.medium.com/x-men-ashes-of-the-apocalypse-a-forgotten-90s-marvel-game-canceled-during-preproduction-9d53c05df147 - blog post about Ashes of the Apocalypse deadline.com/2017/11/james-franco-multiple-man-simon-kinberg-wonder-woman-allan-heinberg-fox-marvel-hero-1202209591/ - article about the Multiple Man film web.archive.org/web/20180408101051/www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20200131200520/screenrant.com/xmen-apocalypse-movie-failure-fox-new-mutants/ - articles about the original New Mutants ua-cam.com/video/uykjVgVwzkA/v-deo.html - Chris Baker's video on cancelled X-Men games web.archive.org/web/20140601014814/www.25moments.com/ - 25 Moments website ua-cam.com/video/P8lR7Ve10_s/v-deo.html - pitch trailer for Ashes of the Apocalypse
they also need to expand the character limit for comments too lmao. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources screenrant.com/x-men-stan-lee-sexism-banshee-origin-comics/ - article about the original Banshee www.writeups.org/wildside-marvel-comics-x-force/ - article about Wildside www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/x-men-a-beast-spinoff-was-pitched-fox-before-dark-phoenix-1218313/ & comicbook.com/marvel/news/x-men-pitched-spinoff-fear-the-beast-wolverine-wendigo-mr-sinister/ & www.flickeringmyth.com/plans-for-abandoned-x-men-beast-spin-off-movie-revealed/ - articles about Fear the Beast & Omega Red film conventionalrelations.net/2020/11/11/an-interview-with-robert-n-skir/ & web.archive.org/web/20080618153948/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/gordon/ - articles about the original X-Men: Evolution web.archive.org/web/20170606080821/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-apocalypse-james-mcavoy-898091 & www.radiotimes.com/movies/scifi/simon-kinberg-x-men-dark-phoenix-sequel-exclusive-newsupdate/ & comicbookmovie.com/x-men/new_mutants/new-mutants-3-wouldve-introduced-darkchilde-crossed-over-with-the-main-x-men-films-exclusive-a177671 - articles about the cancelled second prequel trilogy ua-cam.com/video/tIY1fq6E7o4/v-deo.html - Generation X film variety.com/2003/scene/markets-festivals/mutant-suits-multiply-1117894908/ & mutantxarchive.livejournal.com/130381.html & www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-mar-05-fi-mutant5-story.html & womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2017/06/mutant-x-vs-the-people/ & openjurist.org/277/f3d/253/twentieth-v-marvel & www.michigansthumb.com/news/article/Marvel-Fox-Settle-Over-X-Men-7360724.php - articles and blogs about Mutant X www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-mystery-villain/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-thunderbird-villain-cartoon/ - articles about Thunderbird and the bald dude in the opening www.cbr.com/left-unresolved-whatever-happened-to-the-neo/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-neo-lost-mutant-evolution/ - articles about the Neo www.slashfilm.com/542133/x-men-hellfire-club-premiere/ & variety.com/2016/tv/news/marvel-fox-series-matt-nix-pilot-commmitment-1201812851/ & web.archive.org/web/20151017013605/marvel.com/news/tv/25282/fox_in_development_on_hellfire_working_title uncannyxmen.net/characters/albert-elsie-dee - article about Albert www.digitalspy.com/movies/a31436672/x-men-movie-original-script-andrew-kevin-walker/ - article about Andrew Kevin Walker's X-Men film www.themarysue.com/x-men-nightcrawler-retcon-just-completed-claremonts-original-very-queer-vision/ & web.archive.org/web/20090705062905/www.afterellen.com/Print/2006/7/mystique.html?page=0%2C1 & www.cbr.com/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-14/ - articles about Nightcrawler's dad lostmediawiki.com/X-Men:_Mind_Games_(partially_found_build_of_cancelled_Sega_32X_action_game;_1995) & segaretro.org/X-Men_(32X) & www.unseen64.net/2009/04/23/x-men-32x-cancelled/ - articles about X-Men: Mind Games ua-cam.com/video/uQNaRTxDWQU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/KXRtAY5tUqM/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/wv2SXc06Wrk/v-deo.html - gameplay of Mind Games www.cbr.com/when-an-issue-of-wolverine-was-recalled-over-an-ethnic-slur/ & recalledcomics.com/Wolverine131Recalled.php - articles about the Viper slur incident web.archive.org/web/20170514193032/comicbook.com/2017/02/24/alpha-flight-exiles-and-more-are-on-x-men-movie-producers-radar - article about the Alpha Flight & Exiles films www.inverse.com/culture/daredevil-anniversary-20-years-ben-affleck - article about Ben Affleck's hatred for Daredevil 2003
@@chidaluokoro9104exactly and still is 😂 the only reason people even cared about him now was cause of xmen97 . Before that everyone really didn't care for him
@@sensaiuriah5440this is just incorrect. Cyclops has always been the badass leader with a heart of gold that people know him as. A large majority of comic fans and diehard X-men fans love Cyclops. Fox fumbled his character horribly which caused general movie audiences to think he’s boring and lame, but that doesn’t mean no one liked or cared about him.
Yeah so uh... a little thing you should know about the Insomniac leak that nobody talks about is that it also revealed that Insomniac was actually pressured by Sony into laying off some of it's employees.
To give Jeph Loeb the benefit of the doubt, Ultimates 3 was written while his Son, the person Sam Alexander is based on, was dying of bone cancer. That's why Ultimatum was Magneto grieving the loss of his kids and just wanting everything to die. Leob never recovered from his son's death
@@mawinstallation6626 Unfortunately yeah. I remember people being really divided about it cause no one really felt good about making dunks and memes on the internet about it for Obvious Reasons, which was a common way to cope with iffy writing. Just uncomfortable and unfortunate all around.
Seeing this video after watching Deadpool and Wolverine, the Gambit movie part of the video makes me wanna rewatch D&W again just for Gambit. They finally did my mans justice
The funniest part about the X-Men Origins: Wolverine leak is that fact that a Fox News reporter wrote a review of the leaked workprint for Fox and in it bragged about how easy it was to find on the internet. He was unsurprisingly fired after doing this.
Now that I really think about it, the X-Men Film Series had SO MUCH missed potential. Scrapped characters, scenes, entire installments, surely at least some of them could've been utilized well. EDIT: I've come realize the root of this stems from most of Fox's decisions.
I’d put the X-Men movies in the same boat as the DCEU a lot of potential, definitely got some things right but was very hit or miss even then there was never a DCEU movie as good as DOFP
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 Sounds about right. The closest movie that could even get on par with DOFP is... maybe Wonder Woman, or technically Zack Snyder's Justice League. But the latter wasn't even part of the DCEU to begin with.
Im not gonna lie for a majority of your icebergs I have little to no knowledge on the subject youre talking about yet theyre still entertaining to watch
Pigpen, I just wanted to say thank you for amazing content. I have enjoyed this video and it might be my new favorite. My dad and I are very big X-Men fans especially when we played the Mvs.C series. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this month and I miss him dearly. Again, thank you man for your content
Goddamn, there are A LOT of canceled scenes with Cyclops from the first X-Men movie What the hell did they have against him lol Also, they REALLY wanted Mr. Sinister to appear in the movies
58:44 It is suspected that codename "143" is a reference to Uncanny X-Men #143. This would imply that the movie was supposed to be an adaptation of that issue, which was Alien-like survival horror featuring Kitty facing a lone N'Garai who broke into the X-mansion.
@@LonelyGamer4 In the beginning of the year Scott the Woz stated that he'll do a LEGO video in Feburary, that video is still not released, in June Pigpen promised the X-Men Iceberg in late June, that actually happened.
Weirdest thing was definitely mutants can’t catch aids. Even for comic book standards that was just a crazy thing to bring up and never acknowledge. Great video as usual!
Watch X-men 97 man. I didn’t watch the other seasons either and found it VERY easy to get into and understand the previous plot point. Hell they even explain it through exposition sometimes. All you gotta know is the X-men characters and that’s it
That was actually really cool seeing Me. Tatum so sad with how his Gambit film went. It's always rad seeing an actor have that much passion for a character
Hell yes, You've been my main source of sleep and background vid ever since I found you like a year ago, so you making a almost 4 hour iceberg is GREAT for me! Thx daddy pigpen
Much like DCEU's canceled plans being chalked up to Gunn's DCU, the FoX-Men ones can easily be summarized as "Because the Disney buyout." With both of these franchises, it would make for an interesting discussion, if these franchises would've done well or not, if these overhauls never happened.
Damn, Akom are the original Chads! They literally added a random bald dude in a green suit to the X-Men intro for no reason, and when asked to remove him they literally just said no! Like Jesus that is a level of confidence you just gotta respect 😂
2:19:31 Alot of Claremonts ideas that were previously rejected have been introduced in newer comics or adaptatios. Mystique being Kurt's father, Storm having loved Yukio, Kitty pryde and Rachel summers being Bisexual, a romance between Rahne Sinclair and Dani Moonstar.
So fun fact. X men destiny was my intro into the bigger xmen universe as a kid and i never got far in the game cause i didn't know it had a save system. But it did end with me developing a crush on Pixie
@@tykamen5588Very true. Somehow they were able to make Wolverine do things that are WAY WORSE than literally trying to fuck a 15 year old girl cuz the Ultimate Universe was just obsessed with making iconic characters just absolutely terrible people, or mass murderers, or just degenerate perverts. (granted while inside a teenagers body, still doesn't make it any less weird tho)
The uppercase X and M in The Gifted's titles likely weren't eventually going to spell Xmen across future seasons, it's more likely just using X and M the usual way Marvel does, like with House of X, Powers of X, X-Gene, Xternals, etc. and M-Day, House of M, The Bishop timeline's M tattoo, etc.
I forgot just how bizarre the X-Men can be, to the point where it feels weird that they’re in the same setting as Spider-Man and the Avengers if I’m being honest. I never realized how many cancelled films there were. Just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the studio was prior to the Disney buyout. The Softserve entry broke my brain lmao. Perfect fodder character for a Deadpool story tbh. As for the Linda theme song situation, I’m inclined to believe it’s just a coincidence. The likelihood of the composer for X-Men watching an obscure (for North American audiences at least) post-Soviet Hungarian television show released just a couple years prior is… slim, to say the least. I enjoyed this video quite a bit! Always enjoy learning more about these kinds of topics. Looking forward to the Indiana Jones iceberg! I’ve always been a fan of that franchise despite only liking 2 out of the 5 films lol. The Emperor’s Tomb absolutely slaps to this day.
Considering how huge the lore of the X-Men is, I wouldn't be surprised if the little guy from the 92 X-men intro turned out to be some kind of powerful mutant named Bald fuck, and that he has an omega level powers, he is Xavier's secret brother and he appeared only once in some forgotten annual issue.
1:43 also, thank you for mentioning Legion, that was my fav X-Men show in the entire 2010s, ESPECALLY that scene where David and Farouk singed Behind Blue Eyes, THATS how you do a mind battle
49:44 Len Wein (R.I.P.) mentioned that while he was working on the Nightcrawler series, the editorial team instructed him not to create any new characters. This was because, if the characters were adapted into a movie, they would automatically belong to Fox. I think that's the most concrete evidence that there was an anti-X-men push in the 2010s.
With great irony, the long list of actors considered for Cable, missing the one actor who begged and pleaded to play the character, and actually looks the part: Stephen Lang.
Man the Inhuman lore is kinda wild. I get people love the Inhumans, but I'm kinda glad the we're slowly leaning into more mutants than Inhumans. I would definitely love to see the Inhumans get a redemption, now that Disney has all of them under their belt.
Another weird coincidence about the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver situation is that Elizabeth Olsen and AJT played a romantic couple in Godzilla 2014, right before Age of Ultron, which just adds to the weirdness of it all. Also, predictions for the Indiana Jones Iceberg -Weird Comic Storylines (such as the one that ends with Nazi Zombies or the Star Wars crossover.) -Weird Novel Storylines (Like the one where Indy finds living dinosaurs in Mongolia.) -Indy and Marion’s VERY uncomfortable age gap, as suggested by George Lucas.
i dont know if youve watched the og xmen cartoon but you dont need to watch it to watch xmen 97, it adds up to the enjoyment but it aint super required, i watched it with having the vaguest memories of the og cartoon and i liked it a lot
That Logan-in-a-Japanese-bar scene wasn't cut. It was shown in the theaters. ... well, half of them, anyway. For some reason, they decided to do 2 different post-credits scenes and show them each in different theaters - maybe to get people talking and make them go see it again? Anyway, the other one was the one where Deadpool's hand finds his head. Lucky me, I got the bar scene (during which I VOCALLY said, "Oh god, don't say you're drinking to remember, DON'T say you're drinking to remember," and then he said exactly that -_-; ).
The code name 143 for the Kitty Pryde solo movie stands for Uncanny X-Men 143, Kitty's first solo adventure in the comics, where she Home Alones a demon in the X-Mansion.
after watching Deadpool and wolverine, I'm so happy Channing Tatum got his gambit moment, and I hope this means more for him in the future, cuz gambit is such a cool character
Deadpool and Wolverine Spoilers****** * * * * * Watching the Gambit movie part after seeing Deadpool and Wolverine last night makes me happy for Channing Tatum. Maybe they'll bring him back again.
I would say I don't see it as outing but I also.dont see it as a good thing because if you think someone's gay you ask and they say no it is extremely wrong to keep pressing it
Really enjoyed the video but I wish you included Chris Claremont original plans before he left the comics he had a big story line for the Shadow king being the real big bad for the series manipulating events for humans and Mutants to go to war and being the founder for the hellfire club also the dark Wolverine Saga where wolverine would be revealed to be mind control by the Hand and killed getting his heart ripped out and he's healing factor going into overdrive making him a new one and his body deteriorating because it's just focus on his heart there some other stuff but definitely those are the big 2 storylines I wish we got either way other great iceberg video
1:25:02 There are people saids that Teen Jean might’ve use her telepathic powers on teen Iceman and she made him thinks he’s gay. That is a possibility. Remember in All New X Men where Teen Warren freaks out about the present, he cries and wants to go back home into the past. And then Jean use her telepathic powers on Warren to forget about what he saw and forcing him to stay in the present along with the Original 5 X Men. Yeah that is pretty messed up, and this the Jean grey before she become the host of The Phoenix. And after Iceman come out as gay, that is only thing most writers do with him. Just Iceman reminds everyone he is gay. Iceman by Sina Grace was also controversial. Sina Grace claims he has different story ideas and Marvel editorial forces him to write Iceman comic.
@BroomPusher2024 You haven't read the comics. Because it's HEAVILY implied that Bobby is gay, even before Teen Jean outright says it. Like, Bobby and Emma have a whole training session about him learning to let go of his shame about being gay, in order to better control his powers.
@oshkeet yeah me too, i saw the problem being more that jean was invading bobby's personal information that had nothing to do with her, and then forcing him to face it as if she had a personal stake in it 😭
I've never been more into icebergs more than these ones. I don't really like marvel that much but x men is my favorite marvel part then I'm full DC fan so props just earned a new subscriber with this one.
If Psylocke were to be in the MCU, who would you want to be cast? For me, it’s Anna Sawai. After seeing her in Shogun, she’s the perfect fit. Also you had me in stitches at 1:23:52. 🤣🤣
They really need to make the character limit bigger. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources I wanted to link in the description!
comicsalliance.com/dazzler-movie-jim-shooter/ & jimshooter.com/2011/07/debut-of-dazzler.html/ - articles about the Dazzler film
www.cbr.com/x-men-evolution-5th-season-phoenix-saga/ & thedorkreview.blogspot.com/2018/10/x-men-evolution-future-5th-season.html & web.archive.org/web/20080613164907/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/paur/ - articles about Evolution Season 5
ua-cam.com/video/XRaErO5vQfU/v-deo.html - Comic Drake's video on Psylocke
web.archive.org/web/20190718201504/www.sega-16.com/2013/12/interview-john-pedigo/ - interview about X-Women
www.denofgeek.com/tv/what-would-x-men-the-animated-series-season-6-look-like/ - article about the original X-Men Season 6
ua-cam.com/video/F7tDxOMmIr0/v-deo.html - Maddogg Comics' video on Avengers vs. X-Men
comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/23/x-men-misfits/ & deadshirt.net/2015/06/25/ink-ladies-revisiting-the-kawaii-mutants-of-x-men-misfits/ - articles about Misfits
www.cbr.com/x-men-colossus-related-to-grigori-rasputin/ - article about Colossus' relation with Rasputin
ua-cam.com/video/gH7YvHk76y4/v-deo.html - Panels to Pixels' video on X-Women
collider.com/20th-century-fox-superhero-movies/ & www.slashfilm.com/566967/x-men-vs-fantastic-four-movie/ - articles about the X-Men civil war film
www.cbr.com/about-that-gay-iceman-scene/ & uproxx.com/hitfix/jean-grey-outs-iceman-in-all-new-x-men-40-in-shining-example-of-how-not-to-be-an-ally/ - articles about the Jean & Iceman situation
www.cbr.com/avengers-scarlet-witch-parents-confusing-marvel/ - article about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents
www.marvel.com/articles/comics/worst-things-professor-x-has-done-list - article about Prof X brainwashing Wolverine
archives.fbi.gov/archives/losangeles/press-releases/2011/new-york-man-sentenced-to-one-year-in-federal-prison-for-illegally-uploading-copy-of-x-men-wolverine-movie-to-internet-site & web.archive.org/web/20090402012139/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm & web.archive.org/web/20201204025435/www.itnews.com.au/news/wolverine-uploader-pleads-guilty-251487 - articles about the X-Men Origins leak
uncannyxmen.net/groups/x-babies - article about X-Babies
ua-cam.com/video/qpLKiMgNbXY/v-deo.html - Mr Sunday Movies video on the X-Men Origins leak
www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2013/06/07/history-of-the-comic-book-film-rise-from-x-tinction/ - blog about the 1984 film
ua-cam.com/video/s57dSWUOomc/v-deo.html - Producers Guild of America video on the X-Men Origins leak
web.archive.org/web/20180215143944/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-spinoff-kitty-pryde-movie-works-deadpool-director-1084163 - article about the Kitty Pryde film
uncannyxmen.net/characters/peeper/biography - article about Peepers
ua-cam.com/video/Ukedo8Rs-Fs/v-deo.html - GodzillaMendoza's video on Generation X
ua-cam.com/video/iDaJ9mBhlKI/v-deo.html - Everyday is Midnight's video on X-Men: Destiny
lostmediawiki.com/X-Women:_The_Sinister_Virus_(lost_build_of_cancelled_Sega_Genesis/Mega_Drive_side-scrolling_action_game;_1996-1997) - article about X-Women
www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1071905-exclusive-matthew-vaughn-wanted-young-wolverine-for-first-class-sequel - article about Matthew Vaughn's X-Men trilogy
web.archive.org/web/20150227141334/ew.com/article/2014/07/17/avengers-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-the-vision/ - interview about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's relationship in the MCU
www.ign.com/articles/deadpool-wolverine-tried-to-bring-vinnie-jones-juggernaut-into-the-mcu - article about Juggernaut in Deadpool & Wolverine
web.archive.org/web/20170511152635/www.slashfilm.com/channing-tatum-would-like-to-play-gambit-in-an-x-men-movie/ & web.archive.org/web/20220204111115/variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/ & web.archive.org/web/20190403070756/www.comicsbeat.com/rupert-wyatt-on-how-the-fantastic-four-movie-messed-up-his-gambit-plans/ & web.archive.org/web/20171013065050/ew.com/movies/2017/10/12/channing-tatum-gambit-release-date/ & web.archive.org/web/20170606093149/www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20170612004556/lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit & archive.ph/20201224153305/www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/x-men-ff-and-marvel-crossovers-what-went-wrong-with-ff-and-where-the-hell-is-gambit-the-simon-kinberg-interview/ & web.archive.org/web/20200527173606/www.ign.com/articles/x-men-mister-sinister-gambit-movie-villain-channing-tatum-fox & web.archive.org/web/20170825225911/comicbook.com/2015/06/18/channing-tatum-talks-gambit-and-if-hell-be-in-x-men-apocalypse/ & web.archive.org/web/20170616141853/www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/high-anxiety-hollywood-mega-movies-828200 - articles about the Gambit film
collider.com/the-new-mutants-sequel-trilogy-plans-details-josh-boone/ - article about New Mutants 2 & 3
www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-thunderbird-death/ - article about Thunderbird's original death
comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/chuck-austens-x-men-holy-war/ - blog about Holy War
www.splinter.com/a-brief-history-of-psylockes-complicated-and-racially-p-1793850095 - article about Psylocke's history
comicsalliance.com/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-not-for-kids-or-adults-rev/ & www.ign.com/articles/2010/12/03/wolverine-the-best-there-is-1-review - articles about The Best There Is
collider.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-movie-james-cameron-wolverine/ - articles about James Cameron's X-Men
ua-cam.com/video/tY-rvs3V2tU/v-deo.html - Channel NerdGasm's video on the Onslaught Saga
comicdomwrecks.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/chuck-austens-x-men-she-lies-with-angels/ & www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-when-archangel-had-sex-with-a-teenager-in-the-sky-above-her-mom/- article/blog about She Lies with Angels
ua-cam.com/video/o4d7ceVfP1M/v-deo.html - Jack's World's video on IvX
deadline.com/2019/10/x-men-theme-song-lawsuit-marvel-disney-amazon-apple-linda-1202756336/ - article about the Linda lawsuit
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/logan-hugh-jackman-laura-movie-recasting-wolverine-1051147/ & lrmonline.com/news/simon-kinberg-on-the-future-of-foxs-mutant-franchise/ & web.archive.org/web/20181226084251/www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/x-23/52847/logan-heres-the-latest-on-the-x-23-spin-off-movie - articles about th X-23 film
web.archive.org/web/20180804185714/deadline.com/2018/08/deadpool-animated-series-demise-louie-return-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-end-date-fx-1202440099/ & web.archive.org/web/20180406185349/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glover-rips-marvel-deadpool-script-exiting-animated-series-1098000 & web.archive.org/web/20180406185354/www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/donald-glovers-full-deadpool-finale-script-1098022 & web.archive.org/web/20180325232249/deadline.com/2018/03/fx-marvels-deadpool-animated-tv-series-dead-donald-glover-canceled-1202352932/ & movieweb.com/why-donald-glover-deadpool-show-canceled/ & web.archive.org/web/20170511171220/deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-deadpool-animated-action-comedy-series-order-fxx-donald-glover-1202088704/ & web.archive.org/web/20180616001849/www.thewrap.com/stephen-glover-deadpool-show-wasnt-too-black-cut-taylor-swift-episode-donald-glover/ - articles about Deadpool: The Animated Series
puzzledpagan.com/2018/03/16/that-time-the-x-men-solved-a-leprechaun-murder/ & puzzledpagan.com/2016/03/19/that-time-the-x-men-met-leprechauns/ - blogs about the X-Men and Leprechauns
ua-cam.com/video/FOSd244Tumc/v-deo.html - Deadpool: The Animated Series test footage
ua-cam.com/video/qHO6mhpe5lE/v-deo.html - Bullets & Blockbusters's video about Bryan Singer's X-Men 3
cbake76.medium.com/x-men-ashes-of-the-apocalypse-a-forgotten-90s-marvel-game-canceled-during-preproduction-9d53c05df147 - blog post about Ashes of the Apocalypse
deadline.com/2017/11/james-franco-multiple-man-simon-kinberg-wonder-woman-allan-heinberg-fox-marvel-hero-1202209591/ - article about the Multiple Man film
web.archive.org/web/20180408101051/www.tracking-board.com/inside-the-drama-surrounding-foxs-new-mutants-including-a-top-secret-new-cast-member-exclusive/ & web.archive.org/web/20200131200520/screenrant.com/xmen-apocalypse-movie-failure-fox-new-mutants/ - articles about the original New Mutants
ua-cam.com/video/uykjVgVwzkA/v-deo.html - Chris Baker's video on cancelled X-Men games
web.archive.org/web/20140601014814/www.25moments.com/ - 25 Moments website
ua-cam.com/video/P8lR7Ve10_s/v-deo.html - pitch trailer for Ashes of the Apocalypse
they also need to expand the character limit for comments too lmao. Here's the rest of the extra info/sources
screenrant.com/x-men-stan-lee-sexism-banshee-origin-comics/ - article about the original Banshee
www.writeups.org/wildside-marvel-comics-x-force/ - article about Wildside
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/x-men-a-beast-spinoff-was-pitched-fox-before-dark-phoenix-1218313/ & comicbook.com/marvel/news/x-men-pitched-spinoff-fear-the-beast-wolverine-wendigo-mr-sinister/ & www.flickeringmyth.com/plans-for-abandoned-x-men-beast-spin-off-movie-revealed/ - articles about Fear the Beast & Omega Red film
conventionalrelations.net/2020/11/11/an-interview-with-robert-n-skir/ & web.archive.org/web/20080618153948/marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/interviews/gordon/ - articles about the original X-Men: Evolution
web.archive.org/web/20170606080821/www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-apocalypse-james-mcavoy-898091 & www.radiotimes.com/movies/scifi/simon-kinberg-x-men-dark-phoenix-sequel-exclusive-newsupdate/ & comicbookmovie.com/x-men/new_mutants/new-mutants-3-wouldve-introduced-darkchilde-crossed-over-with-the-main-x-men-films-exclusive-a177671 - articles about the cancelled second prequel trilogy
ua-cam.com/video/tIY1fq6E7o4/v-deo.html - Generation X film
variety.com/2003/scene/markets-festivals/mutant-suits-multiply-1117894908/ & mutantxarchive.livejournal.com/130381.html & www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-mar-05-fi-mutant5-story.html & womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2017/06/mutant-x-vs-the-people/ & openjurist.org/277/f3d/253/twentieth-v-marvel & www.michigansthumb.com/news/article/Marvel-Fox-Settle-Over-X-Men-7360724.php - articles and blogs about Mutant X
www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-mystery-villain/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-thunderbird-villain-cartoon/ - articles about Thunderbird and the bald dude in the opening
www.cbr.com/left-unresolved-whatever-happened-to-the-neo/ & www.cbr.com/x-men-neo-lost-mutant-evolution/ - articles about the Neo
www.slashfilm.com/542133/x-men-hellfire-club-premiere/ & variety.com/2016/tv/news/marvel-fox-series-matt-nix-pilot-commmitment-1201812851/ & web.archive.org/web/20151017013605/marvel.com/news/tv/25282/fox_in_development_on_hellfire_working_title
uncannyxmen.net/characters/albert-elsie-dee - article about Albert
www.digitalspy.com/movies/a31436672/x-men-movie-original-script-andrew-kevin-walker/ - article about Andrew Kevin Walker's X-Men film
www.themarysue.com/x-men-nightcrawler-retcon-just-completed-claremonts-original-very-queer-vision/ & web.archive.org/web/20090705062905/www.afterellen.com/Print/2006/7/mystique.html?page=0%2C1 & www.cbr.com/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-14/ - articles about Nightcrawler's dad
lostmediawiki.com/X-Men:_Mind_Games_(partially_found_build_of_cancelled_Sega_32X_action_game;_1995) & segaretro.org/X-Men_(32X) & www.unseen64.net/2009/04/23/x-men-32x-cancelled/ - articles about X-Men: Mind Games
ua-cam.com/video/uQNaRTxDWQU/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/KXRtAY5tUqM/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/wv2SXc06Wrk/v-deo.html - gameplay of Mind Games
www.cbr.com/when-an-issue-of-wolverine-was-recalled-over-an-ethnic-slur/ & recalledcomics.com/Wolverine131Recalled.php - articles about the Viper slur incident
web.archive.org/web/20170514193032/comicbook.com/2017/02/24/alpha-flight-exiles-and-more-are-on-x-men-movie-producers-radar - article about the Alpha Flight & Exiles films
www.inverse.com/culture/daredevil-anniversary-20-years-ben-affleck - article about Ben Affleck's hatred for Daredevil 2003
1st Person who isn't Pigpen!
Now no 1 can say 1st lol😂
Common posted two hours ago, but this video has been out for under an hour that doesn’t make sense
@@SuperCeleste007i commented the extra links while the video was unlisted
Gotta love how much they overcomplicated something as simple as wolverine accepting charles' proposal to join the X-Men
After watching Deadpool and Wolverine, I'm just really happy for Channing Tatum
Same here
I hope directors see that channing-gambit is becoming a fan favourite and make his movie
The deleted scenes from X-Men 1 and 2 really show how biased Fox was AGAINST CYCLOPS
But why tho?
@@jackcouch8322 because wolverine was popular
@@chidaluokoro9104exactly and still is 😂 the only reason people even cared about him now was cause of xmen97 . Before that everyone really didn't care for him
@@sensaiuriah5440this is just incorrect. Cyclops has always been the badass leader with a heart of gold that people know him as. A large majority of comic fans and diehard X-men fans love Cyclops. Fox fumbled his character horribly which caused general movie audiences to think he’s boring and lame, but that doesn’t mean no one liked or cared about him.
@@tanmanstudios Yeah, I was in the group that liked him before it was cool. I'm just so glad others agree on that statement finally
Yeah so uh... a little thing you should know about the Insomniac leak that nobody talks about is that it also revealed that Insomniac was actually pressured by Sony into laying off some of it's employees.
That's undeniably scummy.
God, that's disgusting of Sony.
layoffs are getting worse and worse
@@chidaluokoro9104ccdfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff DDC gg
Sony is the EA of well... themselves.
To give Jeph Loeb the benefit of the doubt, Ultimates 3 was written while his Son, the person Sam Alexander is based on, was dying of bone cancer.
That's why Ultimatum was Magneto grieving the loss of his kids and just wanting everything to die. Leob never recovered from his son's death
Don't want to throw shade to Loeb, but after his sons's passing, his writing quality declined brutally. Very sad.
@@mawinstallation6626 Unfortunately yeah. I remember people being really divided about it cause no one really felt good about making dunks and memes on the internet about it for Obvious Reasons, which was a common way to cope with iffy writing. Just uncomfortable and unfortunate all around.
I love how unexpectedly happy the ending of Eye-Scream's story is. From obscure joke villain to an honorary X-Man.
Seeing this video after watching Deadpool and Wolverine, the Gambit movie part of the video makes me wanna rewatch D&W again just for Gambit. They finally did my mans justice
The funniest part about the X-Men Origins: Wolverine leak is that fact that a Fox News reporter wrote a review of the leaked workprint for Fox and in it bragged about how easy it was to find on the internet. He was unsurprisingly fired after doing this.
Never thought that Xavier and Magneto’s kid would try and bring about Human Instrumentality, but it’s nice to see that he’s got a hobby or two.
Yeah also can't believe he got a deal to appear as a villain in a Capcom game!
Now that I really think about it, the X-Men Film Series had SO MUCH missed potential. Scrapped characters, scenes, entire installments, surely at least some of them could've been utilized well.
EDIT: I've come realize the root of this stems from most of Fox's decisions.
I’d put the X-Men movies in the same boat as the DCEU a lot of potential, definitely got some things right but was very hit or miss even then there was never a DCEU movie as good as DOFP
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 The Suicide Squad
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 Sounds about right. The closest movie that could even get on par with DOFP is... maybe Wonder Woman, or technically Zack Snyder's Justice League. But the latter wasn't even part of the DCEU to begin with.
Im not gonna lie for a majority of your icebergs I have little to no knowledge on the subject youre talking about yet theyre still entertaining to watch
I find it interesting that the voice of Solid Snake himself David Hayter wrote the screenplay of the early X-Men films.
I thought that was a different David Hayter.
Awesome iceberg. Learned a lot of new things about our merry band of mutants. And thanks for the shout-out. Very kind of you!
Freddy Fazbear was always my favorite X-men member
“Emma doing a little bit of trolling” is the best way to describe that era lmfaoooooo
Pigpen, I just wanted to say thank you for amazing content. I have enjoyed this video and it might be my new favorite. My dad and I are very big X-Men fans especially when we played the Mvs.C series. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this month and I miss him dearly. Again, thank you man for your content
I'm sorry to hear that. It's never losing somebody close to you, especially a parent. Sorry for your loss
@@Pigpen_YT thanks for the comfort man
Let’s go, it’s 10-men time 😊
I literally thought thid exact words when i saw the video, get out of my head.
G men
To me my 10-men
axe-men shut up
Just 10? I thought there were more
Goddamn, there are A LOT of canceled scenes with Cyclops from the first X-Men movie
What the hell did they have against him lol
Also, they REALLY wanted Mr. Sinister to appear in the movies
He's not Wolverine.
@@lucariopokemon13bingo.
My boy scott summers really getting dirty in the films huh?
Cause he's lame 😂
@@sensaiuriah5440 Shut up Logan.
58:44 It is suspected that codename "143" is a reference to Uncanny X-Men #143. This would imply that the movie was supposed to be an adaptation of that issue, which was Alien-like survival horror featuring Kitty facing a lone N'Garai who broke into the X-mansion.
143 is also common shorthand for I love you. not that its significant to the project but w/e
Glad that Pigpen kept his word when he mentioned "Late June", otherwise the video will meet the same fate as Scott the Woz's LEGO video.
Huh?
@@LonelyGamer4 In the beginning of the year Scott the Woz stated that he'll do a LEGO video in Feburary, that video is still not released, in June Pigpen promised the X-Men Iceberg in late June, that actually happened.
@@r3n3gad33 thanks
Yeah idk if he's even making that vid anymore, I hope so
Weirdest thing was definitely mutants can’t catch aids. Even for comic book standards that was just a crazy thing to bring up and never acknowledge. Great video as usual!
My ADHD was satisfied for 4 hours...back to rewatching the old icebergs 🔥🔥🔥
Watch X-men 97 man. I didn’t watch the other seasons either and found it VERY easy to get into and understand the previous plot point. Hell they even explain it through exposition sometimes. All you gotta know is the X-men characters and that’s it
That was actually really cool seeing Me. Tatum so sad with how his Gambit film went. It's always rad seeing an actor have that much passion for a character
Hell yes, You've been my main source of sleep and background vid ever since I found you like a year ago, so you making a almost 4 hour iceberg is GREAT for me! Thx daddy pigpen
Deadpool telling his story to Fred savage on Christmas as a kid friendly version is the most deadpool thing ever😂
42:05 IS THAT FREDDY FAZBEAR!? AUR AUR AUR AUR!!
So is he a member of the X-Men or the avengers
@@discmanthecdlord I'd say both
@@discmanthecdlordFreddy fazbear is a mutant confirmed
He is very clearly a member of the super soldier program.
Rick Remender’s X-Force run is one of the best comic runs ever I would’ve been interested to see how they took inspiration from that for the movie
Much like DCEU's canceled plans being chalked up to Gunn's DCU, the FoX-Men ones can easily be summarized as "Because the Disney buyout." With both of these franchises, it would make for an interesting discussion, if these franchises would've done well or not, if these overhauls never happened.
Ultimate Wolverine think he Firecracker from The Boys
How many people were going to play Mister Sinister in canceled projects
Antonio freaking Banderas was going to play him at some point
almost 4 hours?!?!?!?! holy shit, we've been blessed by daddy pigpen
His Holiness Father Pigpen ♥️
Damn, Akom are the original Chads! They literally added a random bald dude in a green suit to the X-Men intro for no reason, and when asked to remove him they literally just said no! Like Jesus that is a level of confidence you just gotta respect 😂
Olsen and Taylor-Johnson have actually played a couple in 2014’s Godzilla so they kinda have experience in that field
42:00 why is Freddy fazbear just there
He’s part of the avengers 🙄
Fun fact: David Hayter also helped write Watchmen
Fun fact: David Hayter is also salad snack
@@BJ-zf6tqand the guyver.
@@BJ-zf6tq This is snake, colonel, do you read me ?
@@jadenbryant9283he is awesome in that movie
@@RicardoDuarte2510 Loud and clear,Snake
"Nightcrawler would also breakdance" caught me off-guard lmao
2:19:31 Alot of Claremonts ideas that were previously rejected have been introduced in newer comics or adaptatios. Mystique being Kurt's father, Storm having loved Yukio, Kitty pryde and Rachel summers being Bisexual, a romance between Rahne Sinclair and Dani Moonstar.
So fun fact. X men destiny was my intro into the bigger xmen universe as a kid and i never got far in the game cause i didn't know it had a save system.
But it did end with me developing a crush on Pixie
2:54:28
"And at this time, Mary Jane was 15 years old"
Peter Parker: "Shhh, I hear dead people..."
Unfortunately, it’s not the worst thing ultimate wolverine has done.
@@tykamen5588Very true. Somehow they were able to make Wolverine do things that are WAY WORSE than literally trying to fuck a 15 year old girl cuz the Ultimate Universe was just obsessed with making iconic characters just absolutely terrible people, or mass murderers, or just degenerate perverts. (granted while inside a teenagers body, still doesn't make it any less weird tho)
You better not ever go to cell block 1
1, it's I see dead people and 2, the kdot/drake jokes are getting old 😂
"Shh, I hear dead people ....." is pretty much Issue 655 of Amazing Spider-man, I love that one so much.
X-men on the last day of Pride? Going off with a bang
* extends pride month to be pride existance. *
Kitty Pride cheering
Pryde month
What's Pride?
@@vaux144 Pride month
Bro, the nostalgia that xmen video game music in the background is waking up is, epic!!💯🤌🏾
Only real Wolverine fans tried to make fake claws out of pencils/nails as a kid lol
And straws
Kitchen knives
Kitchen knives
Really anything you could fit between your fingers.
Chopsticks
Idk what my fav Xmen is but ill comment 5 times to boost this vid cuz you deserve it. Your icebergs help me sleep
The uppercase X and M in The Gifted's titles likely weren't eventually going to spell Xmen across future seasons, it's more likely just using X and M the usual way Marvel does, like with House of X, Powers of X, X-Gene, Xternals, etc. and M-Day, House of M, The Bishop timeline's M tattoo, etc.
Correct. X for Xavier/X-Men, M for Magneto/Mutant
“Now how did Scott’s daddy get into spacey”😂😂😂😂subscribed💪🏾
42:00 It's about time that Freddy Fazbear's contribution to the X-Men has been talked about.
I forgot just how bizarre the X-Men can be, to the point where it feels weird that they’re in the same setting as Spider-Man and the Avengers if I’m being honest.
I never realized how many cancelled films there were. Just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the studio was prior to the Disney buyout.
The Softserve entry broke my brain lmao. Perfect fodder character for a Deadpool story tbh.
As for the Linda theme song situation, I’m inclined to believe it’s just a coincidence. The likelihood of the composer for X-Men watching an obscure (for North American audiences at least) post-Soviet Hungarian television show released just a couple years prior is… slim, to say the least.
I enjoyed this video quite a bit! Always enjoy learning more about these kinds of topics. Looking forward to the Indiana Jones iceberg! I’ve always been a fan of that franchise despite only liking 2 out of the 5 films lol. The Emperor’s Tomb absolutely slaps to this day.
When I saw X-Men misfits I recoiled because if I saw that on a bookshelf when I was a teen I would definitely have read it.
Let's go! Gonna watch this while grinding out the last of this Double XP weekend in COD
Literally was doing the exact same thing as this video was uploading
Only in comics can they make wolverine meeting Prof. X and agreeing to join the X-MEN and make it complicated for no reason.
Thank you so much for blessing us with this!! Your content is fantastic and I appreciate everything that you do!
Considering how huge the lore of the X-Men is, I wouldn't be surprised if the little guy from the 92 X-men intro turned out to be some kind of powerful mutant named Bald fuck, and that he has an omega level powers, he is Xavier's secret brother and he appeared only once in some forgotten annual issue.
It’s disappointing that we lost the X-Force movies in the buyout, but also a whole Deadpool movie about saving Xmas would’ve sucked lol
1:43 also, thank you for mentioning Legion, that was my fav X-Men show in the entire 2010s, ESPECALLY that scene where David and Farouk singed Behind Blue Eyes, THATS how you do a mind battle
49:44 Len Wein (R.I.P.) mentioned that while he was working on the Nightcrawler series, the editorial team instructed him not to create any new characters. This was because, if the characters were adapted into a movie, they would automatically belong to Fox. I think that's the most concrete evidence that there was an anti-X-men push in the 2010s.
took me a few days to finish out the video but it was another awesome one man - keep up the good work, can’t wait for Indy!
Literally needed a new video to listen to while delivering for Amazon 🎉
Hope Amazon isn’t mistreating you
So glad channing got his role after all this time
15:36 the scene of the soldier commiting seppuku was actually included in the film
7:19 nahhhh Hank must’ve beaten wasp so bad that she really normalised this 😭💀
With great irony, the long list of actors considered for Cable, missing the one actor who begged and pleaded to play the character, and actually looks the part: Stephen Lang.
59:40 "Hnng Colonel, who the hell is this Bishop guy?"
Man the Inhuman lore is kinda wild. I get people love the Inhumans, but I'm kinda glad the we're slowly leaning into more mutants than Inhumans. I would definitely love to see the Inhumans get a redemption, now that Disney has all of them under their belt.
This is your best iceberg yet
2:55:49 Pigpen, I love you man, but don't jumpscare me like this ever again
Another weird coincidence about the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver situation is that Elizabeth Olsen and AJT played a romantic couple in Godzilla 2014, right before Age of Ultron, which just adds to the weirdness of it all.
Also, predictions for the Indiana Jones Iceberg
-Weird Comic Storylines (such as the one that ends with Nazi Zombies or the Star Wars crossover.)
-Weird Novel Storylines (Like the one where Indy finds living dinosaurs in Mongolia.)
-Indy and Marion’s VERY uncomfortable age gap, as suggested by George Lucas.
Been waiting for this one love your content
Also my favorite xmen is kitty pride
i dont know if youve watched the og xmen cartoon but you dont need to watch it to watch xmen 97, it adds up to the enjoyment but it aint super required, i watched it with having the vaguest memories of the og cartoon and i liked it a lot
Wow, never even heard about Generation-X pilot, even tho l i love all these early attempts at super hero media, fascinating
It’s a fun watch
as a jean grey apologist and gay man; the iceman outing and memes joking about jean being homophobic is hilarious to me.
That Logan-in-a-Japanese-bar scene wasn't cut. It was shown in the theaters.
... well, half of them, anyway. For some reason, they decided to do 2 different post-credits scenes and show them each in different theaters - maybe to get people talking and make them go see it again? Anyway, the other one was the one where Deadpool's hand finds his head. Lucky me, I got the bar scene (during which I VOCALLY said, "Oh god, don't say you're drinking to remember, DON'T say you're drinking to remember," and then he said exactly that -_-; ).
The code name 143 for the Kitty Pryde solo movie stands for Uncanny X-Men 143, Kitty's first solo adventure in the comics, where she Home Alones a demon in the X-Mansion.
after watching Deadpool and wolverine, I'm so happy Channing Tatum got his gambit moment, and I hope this means more for him in the future, cuz gambit is such a cool character
If I had a dime for every time Mr. Sinister was set to appear in a cancelled live action X-Men movie, I'd have a lot...
Ah yes. That time when Freddy Fazbear worked with the Avengers and X-men to stop Springtrap and Ultron, the ultimatel villain duo.
Mutant and proud to be a fan of you pigpen thanks for another banger happy pride 😤🥳🎉
Honorable mention: ForgetMeNot
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Damn just cut cyclops out of the entire series then
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Watching the Gambit movie part after seeing Deadpool and Wolverine last night makes me happy for Channing Tatum. Maybe they'll bring him back again.
“out of the kindness of his redditor heart” 💀
I would say I don't see it as outing but I also.dont see it as a good thing because if you think someone's gay you ask and they say no it is extremely wrong to keep pressing it
Appreciate your videos and all your effort in making these so much, man.
3:52:40 I'm one of the 3 people who actually got to this part of the video
6:35 oh boy, sweet home Alabama
Really enjoyed the video but I wish you included Chris Claremont original plans before he left the comics he had a big story line for the Shadow king being the real big bad for the series manipulating events for humans and Mutants to go to war and being the founder for the hellfire club also the dark Wolverine Saga where wolverine would be revealed to be mind control by the Hand and killed getting his heart ripped out and he's healing factor going into overdrive making him a new one and his body deteriorating because it's just focus on his heart there some other stuff but definitely those are the big 2 storylines I wish we got either way other great iceberg video
1:25:02 There are people saids that Teen Jean might’ve use her telepathic powers on teen Iceman and she made him thinks he’s gay.
That is a possibility.
Remember in All New X Men where Teen Warren freaks out about the present, he cries and wants to go back home into the past. And then Jean use her telepathic powers on Warren to forget about what he saw and forcing him to stay in the present along with the Original 5 X Men.
Yeah that is pretty messed up, and this the Jean grey before she become the host of The Phoenix.
And after Iceman come out as gay, that is only thing most writers do with him. Just Iceman reminds everyone he is gay.
Iceman by Sina Grace was also controversial. Sina Grace claims he has different story ideas and Marvel editorial forces him to write Iceman comic.
And also might be a form of gaslighting with how she refuses to think Bobbie's just bi-sexual
I always thought the conflict was more Jean shouldn't nose into people's personal thoughts without permission, esp heavy stuff like that
@BroomPusher2024 You haven't read the comics. Because it's HEAVILY implied that Bobby is gay, even before Teen Jean outright says it. Like, Bobby and Emma have a whole training session about him learning to let go of his shame about being gay, in order to better control his powers.
@oshkeet yeah me too, i saw the problem being more that jean was invading bobby's personal information that had nothing to do with her, and then forcing him to face it as if she had a personal stake in it 😭
The one thing I got from this entire video is that Mister Sinister will probably never be adapted in live action
A great way to end a great June!
NGL I really like the random x men commercial breaks thrown in. I really wanted the burger king toys at one point
Been waiting for you to make this!!
Falling asleep to this did wonders on my dreams
Nintendo giga leak was genuinely cool
The insomniac leak was scummy af
I've never been more into icebergs more than these ones. I don't really like marvel that much but x men is my favorite marvel part then I'm full DC fan so props just earned a new subscriber with this one.
It’s time.
Time to waste my next 3 and a half hours.
Thank you for your service Mr. Pen
*spend 3 hours extremely well
this is incredible, you put and insane amount of work into this. bravo
1:58:09 Damn this deep into the iceberg and just two Marvel Vs Capcom references oof
If Psylocke were to be in the MCU, who would you want to be cast? For me, it’s Anna Sawai. After seeing her in Shogun, she’s the perfect fit.
Also you had me in stitches at 1:23:52. 🤣🤣
2:27:20 The only Marvel character that stays dead is Uncle Ben. We all know that.
Along with Jack Murdock, T'Chaka, George Stacy, and Captain Mar-Vell.