Is Hellraiser (2022) a Much Needed Reboot for the Franchise?
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2022
- We have such sights to show you, Dumpster Dwellers! Trick or Trash may be over, but we've got one last goodie in our treat bag for you! 🎃💚📼 Joe and Sean are digging into Hulu's latest re-imagining of the Clive Barker horror masterpiece in a new Ripe Review. In the remake, recovering drug addict Riley and her boyfriend Trevor steal the Lament Configuration to sell for quick cash. Riley solves the puzzle and inadvertently summons the otherworldly Cenobites to her, led by the Priest aka Pinhead. They mark Riley (or something) and force her to bring them blood sacrifices for the box, so that the final configuration can be opened to bring their god Leviathan into our reality! Will we be asking Uncle Frank to... COME TO DADDY?! Or will we be begging the Cenobites to rip us to pieces to end our suffering?
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Hellraiser is a 2022 supernatural horror movie directed by David Bruckner (V/H/S, The Ritual). Loosely based on the 1986 novella 'The Hellbound Heart' by Clive Barker. The movie stars Odessa A'zion as Riley, who accidentally opens the puzzle box and releases the Cenobites. Led by the Priest, played by Jamie Clayton, the sadistic monsters force her to bring more victims to the box so that they may summon their master, the massive Leviathan originally seen in Hellbound: Hellraiser II'. Also starring Drew Starkey as Trevor, Brandon Flynn as Matt, Adam Faison as Colin, Aoife Hinds as Nora, and Goran Višnjić as Roland Voight.
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I can honestly say you guys as well as Tony from Hack The Movies are the best movie reviewers on UA-cam. As someone that loves movies, its great seeing you three talk so passionately about the movies you really like, as well as those that are really bad. Keep up the great work!
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My biggest gripe is how the Lament Configuration functions. The whole drawing blood angle works in theory but not in execution. The amount of people who accidentally stab themselves with it as well as the people that purposely get stabbed with it just shows you how fucking stupid this version of the box is. The whole point is that people willingly solve the box and seal their own fate. But the Cenobites in this movie dont give a fuck about that. Which completely changes them into generic evil villains. When they were never supposed to be generically evil.
Exactly. -Joe
Yeah I kept going between liking the blade aspect and not liking it throughout the film. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it made me eyeroll.
@excessmaterial - “ Sometimes it worked and sometimes it made me eyeroll”. Yup, PFP checks out
you guys don't change my opinion on films, nobody but me could. What you guys do and do very well is make me laugh and make me think, i'm appreciative of that because it feels like I'm talking about films with my friends.
btw i did enjoy this movie. im not the biggest hellraiser fan so i wont throw a chair across the room over certain lore issues and plot points like i almost did while watching halloween ends.
Is it needed? In the immortal words of George C. Scott: "It is NOT!" *bangs table*
I raise you a franchise with many blasphemous entires. I assure you that it is.
Always a pleasure to see a GCS deepcut in the wild. 👏🏾
This movie literally had the most unlikeable protagonist I've ever seen in a film.
Also, her upper lip was more horrifying then any of the cenobite's.
As someone who is new to the Hellraiser franchise I agree with points from both sides. I believe the original and Hellbound are superb films with great stories and performances. This one played it safe which really puts it down a notch for me. I love the passion Joe has talking about this franchise and how you both can have such a great conversation even if you don't agree. Top notch stuff guys!
Thanks for all of your support, dude! 🙏💚📼
I would say absolutely yes. It was not perfect, but it was one of the better horror films to come out this year. There's been a lot of duds and disappointments, ( the munsters, Halloween ends, Jeepers Creepers reborn etc.) But this is definitely one of the better offerings to come out this year. And it was great to have it just in time for halloween. I love this franchise, even the lackluster straight to video films that we have gotten over the past decade or so, and I am glad to see it brought back up a notch. Like I said, it was far from perfect, but it was a damn good entry and it even introduced a few new elements that I really enjoyed. I hope to see a sequel to this, but I don't really feel like this franchise needs to rely on continuity. There is so much to draw from in the mythology, the novels, the comics, there's just so much you can do and if you ask me, there really doesn't need to be a sequel per se. Just another hellraiser film, telling another interesting story from this world. I really feel like hellraiser should be more of an anthology style franchise. Either way, as long as they keep up the quality that they delivered with this film, I'm down. But yes, this was a much needed reboot and a breath of life into this otherwise dying franchise.
I actually like The Munsters. I grew up watching it each night during Nick at Night reruns, but I had to think of this as more of a beautiful art project rather than an accurate film based on the TV show. I often feel I’m the only one that appreciated/liked the movie but, ah, all good and understandable. I’ll take another solo sip of my whiskey. Cheers!
Damn Joe's pissed. Never been the biggest hellraiser fan but it's fun to see someone who is. Good episode guys.
Not pissed just a little disappointed. I’m passionate about movies, haha. Thanks for watching! 🙏💚📼 -Joe
@@MovieDumpster lol i definitely relate. I hated halloween kills & ends, i like how you two dont just agree on everything because your good friends and have similar tastes though
I think it's definitely between decent to good. I feel like it had a few cool visuals. Like the van scene and the Leviathan. But my problem is it didn't really reach it's potential. A lot of the visuals were very underwhelming. Which is the movie in a.nutshell. it does most things well but only half the time.
I love watching Joe just get so passionate about how bad a movie can be. Sometimes it’s as fun to hate a movie as it is to love a movie. 💚📼
They already explored the idea of different summoning tools in Hellraiser 2. The doctor had TONS of different looking boxes that he gives to all the crazy dudes to bring him back to the hospital as a cenobite.
Yep, I mentioned that the box was cool and that part didn’t bother me. This is also a remake, not a continuation. -Joe
That's just wrong.
All boxes in "Hellbound" looked exactly the same and there weren't any other devices besides of them.
Joe sounds like me after I read the novella and made my friends watch Hellraiser
Kirsty is a popular name here in Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland (UK) and it's pronounced like this "curse - tea"
Great video guys!
Thanks for watching! 🙏💚📼
Now I just kinda want to read the book lol
Definitely do it!
Wonderful review, I agree on some front's. But man... Joe need some anger control classes haha
I’m not angry, just passionate about things I like, haha. -Joe
Imagine if it was the same retirement home that mr o'grady from leprechaun was in and it wasnt the leprechaun that hung him upside down in the eleveator it was actually the gape and the rest of the cenobites.
I love the MDU 😂
Bloodline was the last Hellraiser movie I watched prior to this remake. Great job as always 👍Movie Dumpster is a fav
Thanks for watching! 🙏💚📼
Those four first films are classics and the 2022 version is good🥁🔥✌️✌️
Hellraiser(2022) is similar to Evil Dead(2013), recovering addict protagonist,object that unleashes demonic forces(box or book) and the protagonist loses everyone in the end(Riley saved 1 person,Mia lost everyone!). Evil Dead delivers where Hellraiser doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it(Jamie Clayton as the Hell Priest,H.R Giger like designs of the Cenobites,ect.), but it lacks the hedonistic nature and gore of the original, if it gets a sequel hopefully it doesn't pull its punches like this 1.(to be fair I did watch Terrifier 2 right before watching Hellraiser, anything would seem tame compared to that flick lol).
I really don’t like the Evil Dead remake. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster I'm curious as to why? Next to the blob 1988, it's my favorite remake of all time. I respect your opinion, but I'm curious.
@@MovieDumpster different strokes for different folks, some dig it some don't. just like Hellraiser(2022), some love it some hate it.
@@shanekixmiller2133 I haven’t seen it in a while but my main thing that bothered me was how they just made it hell and the devil. Also there’s a lot of hand holding with the lore stuff. I remember being really turned off by the writing in the book. Again, all the mystique was gone for me.
Maybe I’ll revisit it again and get back to you. -Joe
@@patrickcharles6983 100%! I don’t even hate it, It’s just frustrating because it could have been really excellent imo. -Joe
Yeah I mean I easily put this remake up with Hellraiser 3-4 as far as I like things it adds, I was lukewarm about some other things, and it has the advantage over them that its shot quite well and I like the atmosphere better in this film than those two. I will say, I was greatly hoping for something more at the end. Like, when you're going from something as epic as Channard in 2, it just seems like not that big a transformation. That being said, I would definitely like seeing a sequel to this, and yes it can have the same main girl, and they put her or someone she knows in another situation where the puzzle gets them into trouble. I don't think they really *can* do that with the main girl from this however because she apparently "figured it all out" by the end so unless she suffered a blow to the head I doubt she could really be owned by the box ever again and even if she was I guess she could just do something similar to get out of it? So maybe just act like it's same universe, but start over with totally new characters and a new situation. I just know I'm fine with how this went down except the fairly weak final scene that I thought should have been both more gory and had more length to it and we perhaps finally got a scene of him communicating with Leviathan and it responding? I really liked how things began with Voight, but uh...the weird nerve rack inside him I thought could have had a better and more horrifying design to it and I think his character's dialogue got much weaker by the end compared to how cool his opening scene was. Definitely not Frank level of villain.
Now, the real question is. Have either of you guys seen Evolver (1995) or Arcade (1993)? Because if not, both contain John DeLancie from Star Trek and both involve technology out of control. Lawnmower Man vibes too. These would both be really great to discuss. I remember seeing them on shelves at Blockbuster all the time back in the day.
Yes, Arcade is great! -Joe
@@MovieDumpster Yeah it's pretty wild. When Real Adventures of Jonny Quest came out and they would go into QuestWorld it always reminded me of the kids going in to the Arcade game.
There’s two things I love about this movie. First is the redesign of the cenobites, where their own flesh has been used instead of the leather daddy look. Along with all the sfx/practical effects. The second is that they used Clayton’s fucked up voice from transitioning, and then added a few extra layers to it to make it otherworldly. It sounded cool. For the rest of the movie there were things I liked and didn’t. I wish they showed more of the Leviathan, but I get the cgi would be so costly. The kills were too quick, but the gore they did do was nice. I like that they tried to add actual lore to it all, and if they do a sequel I hope they bring more of that lore out. I like the sets actually moving and warping when the cenobites are arriving. That’s a cool thing. I do agree that they could have done so much more though. The story could have been better, and it felt like the plot was just rushed and it didn’t really make me feel anything towards the characters or their deaths. If they make a sequel, I hope they can make a better story now that they have the blueprint of how the cenobites looks. So they dont need to focus on that so much.
I enjoyed hearing Joe's thoughts on the movie and of the original story, might have to read that some day. I liked the movie a lot, but that bit about being able to sacrifice Cenobites was weak. I hope that Hellraiser tv series gets made.
You guys totally sold me on listening to the audio book... I was sold in the first 15 minutes.
I just watched this movie! Excited to see what you both think about it!
Joe was uhhh a little upset with this one ... 🤣
I think she didn't tell her friends, cause she's an addict. If she starts to tell them demons came and took her brother they'll think she's using again. And when she finally tells the truth to the brother's boyfriend, he doesn't believer anyway. And thinks she's grieving.
It's hard to compare any movie to Thir13en Ghosts, because it's considered the Citizen Kane of horror.. Sean! Do yourself a favor an expose yourself to the molecular enhancement that is Thir13en Ghosts. That movie and The Ring scared the hell out of me when I was 12.
..but in all honesty, Thir13en ghosts IS a classic and BY FAR the best in the Dark Castle Trilogy; It has a special place in my heart.
AND Tony Shaloub is from Green Bay! I see his photo on the walls of ma and pa shops every time I go on a vacation to Door County.
It's definitely on my list of movies to check out this year! -Sean
I wanna see this movie at some point. Are the first two good as well cause I'd like to check those out too!
51:00 she doesn't leave scott free. She lives with Knowledge. That her screw up, killed all these people, including her brother. She did want to kill people for the Resurrection, but after meeting the dude with the clock on his chest she quickly realized that yep her brother would come back completely messed up, so she declines to ask Leviathan for a wish. And Pinhead tells her that, welp, that's Knowledge, the knowledge that all of this is her fault cause she relapsed and started all this mess. Yes, everything is spelled out in this movie, to a fault, but can't complain about not getting something that's spelled out in the form of an actual character telling another
Movie dumpster would you want Clint Howard to play Lancer in a live action Danny Phantom movie?
I absolutely love watching you 2 now that I've found your page. I've been binge watching your reviews. So good. I am a diehard Hellraiser fan and absolutely loved 1 and 2. Bloodlines was decent but felt like it needed to be 2 complete movies instead of 1. The Novella is amazing. This remake was great but definitely had its problem points. I didn't care too much that most of the kills we don't wver see. That bummed me out. And the story was going in a good place but I felt it needed something more. Most of the characters I didn't really care for. They were just thrown in there to be killed imo. The Hellpriest was amazing! The voice was so good! Now I'm just rambling. Ha ha.
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I actually really liked the last Hellraiser before this one due to the story. This one was a very nice addition. 1 & 2 fantastic, 3 & 4 a guilty pleasure. The rest where forgettable.
This film is boring and the cenobites aren’t scary. They get stuck in a door
Needed to be more gory. (There were off screen kills in a hellraiser movie?! Wtf?!) Pinhead needed to be more sadistic. Costumes looked like costumes not flesh. A lot of the rules and plot just didn't make sense. Didn't care about and couldn't connect with any of the protagonists. Really wanted to see the cenobites doing a lot more..... a shame.
Oh wow, you guya seen castle freak. My first rental movie with my parants supervision haha. That one gave me nightmares. I was 12 years old😂
I was raised on Empire and Full Moon, haha. -Joe
IMO the Hellraiser reboot is the best the franchise has offered up since Hellraiser 2. Not a very high bar to reach though.
I'm not as passionate as Joe seems to be (wow! -- well, I guess I was while watching it), but I really dislike it as well. This film looks beautiful and the effects are fantastic and the Priest was awe inspiring, however is so shallow and its superficiality is dragging and irritating. The awesome, grotesque fantasies of Clive Barker deserve much better. Is probably the third best Hellraiser film, though, which is sad. (Anyways, Pearl is _the_ Horror film of the year for me, followed by Barbarian).
Shallow-perfect way to put it. And it’s a damn shame because everything around it looked great! -Joe
I call this type of movie the "distractors". I watch them when I play online games, so I the game is not too boring
Why should anybody play boring games in the first place?
@@sidnew2739 sometimes, matches in World of Warships are slow. So, you need something.
It feels like I’m watching Tony From Hack The Movies bitch about Ghostbusters
Not even close. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster True, you where more aggressive lol, good review tho’
I think Joe argued a couple of his points so well he convinced me they really were worth mentioning. That Ghostbusters review was kind of the opposite lol.
Movie dumpster, always on P O I N T
Wow Joe you really love the original novella. Have you read the sequel novel The Scarlet Gospels?
I have not! -Joe
@@MovieDumpster Oh Ok. I haven't read it yet myself.
Dude, where can I get a Rawhead Rex t-shirt??????????
Graveyard Classics!
I'm a dedicated 51-year-old horror fan, I think I have just about watched over 75% of English horror every made since 1930 onwards and a shit tone of foreign horror and I liked this film, defo a 7/10 putting it 3rd in the franchise, H1 is a 9/10 and H2 is 8/10.
Barker being gay has a lot of influence in hellraiser. It's basically a story about his fetish and s&m.
Hunky boys 😍😍😍
Not my hunky boiiiis!!
I made a lot of friends read the novella, only 1 liked it. We are still dating to this day.
I see this movie like i see the Evil dead remake, a more serious (thus blander) version of the original, but still fun and interesting. Incidentally, they even share the whole drug addiction story and bringing demonic beings into reality
Neither of them are for me, but I’m glad you enjoyed them! -Joe
Let's get it bucks
Dumpraiser: Budlines
Ya right, anything after bloodline is poor. I think the first 4 movies and the new one are definitely worth watching though. The og hellraiser is one of the greatest horror movies ever made, just a shame they ended up so awful.
One other thing, pinhead is up there with freddy, jason and Michael as the most iconic horror characters of all time.
The last couple of movies where written as different movies an the studio was about to lose the rights so they just wrote hellraiser into the script, thats why the movies are shit an dont really make sense
This movie was so boring. New pinhead was so lifeless
the reboot was ok movie only like first 3 movies
Massive hellraiser fan wasn't a fan of this new movie definitely a skip it from me bland boring and predictable and i couldn't help feel like it was really sanitised/watered down. Hopefully no sequel and if they do make another remake less pulling punches more practical gore and when it comes to the cenobites less is more so give us a charismatic human villain or villains like Frank and Julia and do away with the who's going to get pinched by the box next plotline
Hellraiser is a sequel, not a remake.
Great vid tho. I'm subbed now
Thanks for watching! 🙏💚📼
Yup, all the bad guys go down. lame and more importantly, not even remotely scary
Best hellraiser movie by far. Also I miss talks from the darkside.
Talks will be back soon!
The point from where Voight reveals he’s still alive to the end of the movie was top notch. It really showed the potential a studio had to present this world with modern day filmmaking. I liked him sharing his backstory with the cenobites gifts, and Riley ultimately choosing to leave the box behind. I would say this movie was easily better than any Hellraiser sequel after Hellbound.
I was never a Hellraiser or C. Barker fan. But really liked this movie and LOVED THIS PODCAST!
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Apparently you like watching paint dry
11th
I was so close! Thanks for watching! -Sean
I liked Riley in this.
She does some shady things in this but I really liked her character arc.
She's not your typical final girl and it was cool to see her journey from alcohol dependence to personal independence.
There’s not a lot of depth to the character and I think a lot of what they wanted to convey gets terribly lost amongst the attempt to deepen the lore of the box-rather than keeping it ambiguous and mysterious, and focusing on the human elements. She just comes off as a whiny brat that is almost entirely impractical in her journey and literally tumbles through the string of events simply because that’s how it needs to play out. -Joe
I think you guys are correct that Hellraiser can be race/gender/sex swapped and it can be relevant and accepted. This may be a franchise that can thrive with that.
It's PINHEAD, not "Hellraiser".
Two things :1) I'm kind of glad a new generation is getting exposed to an horror classic (because you know 90% of teens are not watching the original one). Plus the visuals are interesting, i don't know if i love them but i've seen waaaay worse 2) i don't need this. Frankly i didn't need anything beyond the first one. It's a closed story. Frank is an horrible human being and gets punished in the end. I' m going to watch it with friends while drinking beers and eating chips. Never again just by myself
That’s an argument I always see people say, “well, now they’ll watch the original!” I just can’t see most people who hadn’t seen the original to seek it out after viewing the new one. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster i kid you not, i've heard a young woman(23ish) i teach italian to, utter this sentence :" I've never seen The Lord of the Rings, it's an old movie and it's too long !" ... So this is what we are dealing with, i guess. Also i wanted to apologise for all the long-ass comments i leave on your videos, i know they must be bothersome to read and i appreciate you guys for taking the time to read them. The thing is, i listen to you while i work or when i do stuff around the house, so in the breaks i relax writing comments..again,thanks for all the entertainment and have a wonderful day, you keep me company and make me smile even during grey days
@@Eisenwulf666 don’t ever apologize! We love reading your in depth observations! You’re very welcome and thank YOU for all your support! 🙏💚📼
Joe must of been in a bad mood when he watched it. As someone who hates a lot of stuff, I actually liked this Hellraiser. You can make anything sound dumb in a horror movie. I never once had any of the same feelings while watching it.
Makes me think about when Sean was talking about the time he ruined the watching experience of Avatar for the whole house.
You kept saying 13 Ghost but wtf man? Did you forget the end of 3 and all of Bloodline?
Did you forget in Inferno where Kirsty is willing to bring Pinhead multiple sacrifices to save herself? I was thinking more of them trying to piece in little call backs to the Hellraiser sequels.
I may have been a little excited, but I still feel the same way. I remember the sequels-this was supposed to be a different take, and that really bothered me. I also still stand by the 13 Ghosts thing. They didn’t piece it in so much as use the ideas wholesale, and I thought they could have done a way better story. Glad you liked it though! -Joe
@@MovieDumpster I gotta give you a little hell 🤣
Definitely see a lot of your points! Your passion is remarkable regardless of the direction it takes
@@rei6nofrot you’re totally good, man! Different opinions are what keeps things interesting 🙂 -Joe
@@MovieDumpster I can't remember what you've said about it, but how did you feel about Judgement?
It SUCKED BAD
Although Joe has some good points, I'm 100% with Sean on this one. Even though it doesn't compare to the original I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I see the flaws in this flim but I hade fun time watching it a lot more than the new Halloween flim when did the marching band kids become bully's in horror haha
That I can agree with. -Joe
I like this channel but you guys take forever to post content.
We have full time jobs 🤷♂️ new episode coming this weekend.
It was awful.
18:40 Look I was late to the news about this actor being cast as pin head. But I had to wiki and seek out the insta to actually confirm that it was a trans person because every where I see it’s like “casting a woman” and here you are like “well look… IF they cast a man what difference would it make…”
English is English. Call the actor a trans woman or biological male. I’m not some woke pc dude obviously. Just … someone point out elephant in room
There is no elephant in the room. The hub bub was about casting a female pinhead (biologically, identifiably, or otherwise) rather than a male/masculine, but the point I was trying to make was it didn’t matter whatsoever because these beings are supposed to be neutrally gendered. Their existence and purpose has no footing in what they can or can’t be identified as in a male/female sense. It doesn’t fucking matter either way. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster "IDENTIFIABLY" ok so theres no elephant in the room. Then one day someone you care about is gonna bring home a "woman" and the elephant in the room will be the "woman's" massive schlong. And you can copy paste this to your buddy, cousin or possibly son and tell him "Look, biologically, identifiably, or otherwise, thats a hot woman cock. Your confusion just doesn't matter whatsoever." Live it down.
Stopped watching at the 1,000,000th mention of “novella”.
Oh good, you watched it 999,990 times.
It’s a bunch of wokified, diversified garbage.
You can't call something woke without acknowledging that people have been treated like crap and underrepresented to begin with. So your comment is woke.
Classic movie dumpster twenty minutes of talking before they even mention the movie
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Lolwut, these are the only comments you leave on this channel