I have been an atheist for many many years, but as soon as he said Duke University science, I am now a Jesus follower. I am now convinced of a god. Thank you, Emery.
By Brian’s logic, Brian thinks differently to me, so I should be able to own him. That said, I’d have to return him to the market due to him being painfully faulty.
@@Viodoxz firstly, which religion are you talking about? That could equally apply to Christianity and Islam (among others) Secondly, I’d not seek to end the ideology by enslaving people as it’s immoral and there are various other means which aren’t abhorrent.
@@trafficjon400and that is an example of how Whataboutism works. I think it so needless to do. Particularly when concentrating on the crap that Brian pulled.
Brian: What's your definition of slavery? Matt: Brian: Well I think we all 3 would agree that the definition is something else correct? Matt: No. Brian:
When I first figured out that people die, my parents had a preacher tell me that a guy came back from the dead 2k years ago. This was about the same time I figured out that Santa and the Easter Bunny were fake, so it was not a big leap to doubt the resurrection crap too.
Except he is dumb as a doornail. He thinks other religions don't have a concept of harm but fails to even grasp that it doesn't matter if a religion is true or not. It could still have a concept of harm.
I found it dubious when he opened with claiming he's been watching the show for years but then everything else coming out of his mouth seemed like he'd actively missed the thousands of common calls around exactly what he was calling about.
@@EmpressLizard81 🔥"Unhinged ASMR with Seth Andrews"🔥; only it's like THE most relaxing and chill and centered shit possible.... 😂😭🤣 I love the sound of that so much!!!
clearly not, one minute hes gushing about how much he loves muslims & calling them his brothers, and the next minute hes saying he wants to enslave them
In addition to the Ann Frank example, I can think of another time when lying is best. If a person is in memory care, and cannot remember that their spouse has died, even after multiple repetitions, because they have NO short term memory, should be told lies like, "oh, he stepped out; he'll be right back." This was my mother after my father had died. The goal was to keep her happy. Otherwise, every time she was told was the first time, and she would get upset and cry in grief, only to have forgotten again 10 minutes later. Lying really was, far and away, best. 😢
I love hearing people's paths on this show, and now hearing those moments in Jimmy as it's now all starting to fall apart is so wonderful to experience.
John: I don't commit fallacies. But I can and will inject new fallacies and double down on the previous ones. All I need to believe in the Islamic deity is a median view that matches.
This was a great episode. So many theists that were completely open to exposing their fallacies and harmful thinking. Slavery, argumentum ad polulum, and a believer that finally got pressed to answer tough questions he can't answer and had to question their beliefs. Instant classic.
Brian is awful. Can already tell he is trying to go with prison as and example of "slavery" which is why is is trying to side step ownership and property.
and most reasonable people would point to the slavery built into the American prison system is morally wrong. It is a means to make the chattel slavery of the antebellum legal - and yes, it was explicitly used that way after the civil war, as well.
The fact he couldn’t even grasp the difference between receiving information first-hand or second-hand left me fairly confident he was genuinely that much of a bumblenugget.
The FIRST counter to Jimmy's argument would be that other social species have rudimentary "rules" to keep order in their group yet have no concept of religion. Granted these groups are not on the grand scale of human "civilizations" per se, but the basic concept of following certain guidelines within the group is still being practiced. Also, there are very successful & happy nations on this planet with very high rates of atheism. It's not binary - our choices aren't limited to an Amish village or North Korea.
Wow.. I did'nt think i could hear anything worse than certain theists with no self awareness whatsoever saying that if they heard "gods" words commanding them to unalive their children, they would do it in a heartbeat, but Brian somehow managed to top that.
She sounds like a fire to light entire buildings anywhere she goes; and like she's got her morals on straight! May she bounce back harder than a kangaroo! ✨🔥✨
Brian had lost all of his humanity. Guys like him were running the concentration camps during ww2, guys like him are the tourturers around the world , guys like him are dangerous, they are needed for a functional dictatorship, guys like him are dumb, cruel and willfully ignorant, the bottom dwellers of society.
Hey Matt! Hey Seth! Good to see you both in this show! You do a great work in helping people to get rid of the stupid and dangerous prejudices of religion. Thank you both!
John with the Gumball experiment- You don't understand that this experiment applies to something you can observe and make an educated guess about. It does NOT validate a majority opinion about something that is not observable and restestable. You don't understand the experiment or it's application. Each of your positions were being carefully deconstructed by Matt and you weren't following logical conclusions.
The fun part is that in reality people point to each other being wrong about god, so the Gumball experiment would mean that the educated guess is that there is no god that has been described. But then again, theists love to mis represent reality.
What's even worse is the most people are going to be wrong but the correct answer is the average of religious beliefs. Which is probably in line with basic morality
There's also the fact that a mathematical mean/median of a large number of guesses is nothing like an "average" that is either the largest individual answer or a commonality within the most frequent answer. 🤪😂
52:35 Brian. Bryan says that if you control another human being that that is part of slavery, but parents control children all the time and children are not our slaves.
Matt calling someone a “whiny little bitch” while constantly putting them on hold for trying to explain his position was pure Mattitude at its finest. I was glad to hear Seth basically say ‘Let the dude speak’ Sorry to say with as much as I used to love Matt his shows have become more about him than any type of discourse.
Him and Jimmy need to stop with the "it's our show, we can do whatever we want" Like obviously they can but it's in bad faith. Mute the people that refuse to answer a question or blatantly interrupt
@user-rw5zw9wi2q "blatantly interrupt" that is not what is being only muted. Watch the other hosts and how they mute. Matt will sometimes make the call come to a grinding halt with these weird tactics. Or he'll sit there for 3 minutes demanding a guy to apologize
John straight up said that if a bunch of people tell him something, he will believe it. And if more people tell him a different thing, he will instead believe that. That is the thinking of a gullible simpleton. That is the thinking of an infant. Grow up John.
@@privatepile762 No, yOu dON't unDErsTaNd, iT's thE GUm bAll ExperiMEnT! OP is correct, infantile thinking... it's alarming when we realize that those people also vote...
I think Brian's misunderstanding of 2nd hand comes from the fact the his friend provided a 1st hand account. Then he failed to realize that he is a 2nd party
@@Eric-cj8sb talking about wives i heard on one show seths wife was still a christian...now i think seth is absolutely brilliant and if he cant make his wife see the religion is nonsense it shows how hopeless our task is......
😅 Part of the problem when you condition religious people to believe in magic words is when they stumble out of that bubble, and hear other people using words in ways that confound them, and then imagine that repeating those words will produce a magical effect of understanding, without giving any thought to the context and meaning that should go along WITH those words. May Emery go on to understand what science actually is, what it means, and why it _might_ support an idea if the context at the moment is appropriate.
Worse thing about the Ark Encounter is after using modern construction and over $100M to build it doesn't even float. Noah build one by hand, stored every creature on earth and sailed 110 days in a flood that covered the entire plant. Both stories are beyond ridiculous and could have never happened but someone actually spent the $100M.
The funny thing is that originally they wanted to have a lot of animals in it. But they wasn't aloud to because despite the modern ventilation it wasn't enough for even a petting zoo.
Im from Kentucky and i am embarrassed that he was able to build that monstrosity. There were claims that tax dollars may have gone to the construction and really hope that was not true. My biggest problem with it was that it wouldn't have been able to float. I mean if you are going to build it the damn thing should at least be able to float.
They know a boat built with no steel and ancient techniques that big would fall apart on the first tide. No storm or flood necessary. They just don't want to admit it.
Brian starts out with a higher being in his explanation and the only way it could be done is... if it's a higher being and it is supposed to be all-powerful you are a moron as it should be able to change them without doing any of that. It's funny how this all-powerful being is never powerful enough to do something good.
When I was growing up, my mom would routinely tell me that if God told her to kill me, she would. She liked to glorify Abraham in that situation as some kind of paragon. She also told me that if someone held a gun to my head and told me they would kill me if I said I believed in God, and then asked, I should tell them that I did, because it would be better to die then deny God.
The gum ball experiment works because of the visual data that is available to the people making a guess and their experience with volumes and small items. It can’t just be applied to every question, e.g. about causation of events. Showing the picture of a dead body to a million people doesn’t identify the murderer based on the median answer. Not to mention that religion is usually being passed on through childhood indoctrination. It’s not like every person independently looks at the evidence and concludes a god like they would with the gum balls. The median god answer is based on how religion spreads, not on actual data that is being observed.
Jimmy was a great call! He had his position but he didn't have a preemptive script, nor did he deflect or lie. Great guy with a bit of ignorance, I think it's almost a certainty that a person like that will overcome that ignorance. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. Good luck Jimmy.
That Emery call was very hard to listen to.. - Back away from the phone, Emery. - Yes sir, sorry.. (Still not listening and shouting out random words like hell..) 😖💀
We do this silly thing in our house where we thank the Gods for helping. For instance if I forgot to turn the pan of ground meat off, but caught it before it burned, I will thank the Taco Gods. I enjoy it and chuckle every time.
Oh it's not just me then! I work as a mailman, and if I've had a particularly bad night's sleep before work I'll often ask the "delivery gods" to grant me an easy work shift that day.
In our house it's fairies. My boyfriend paints a picture, doesn't like it, wants to throw it out, so I tell him to put it away for the night so the painting fairies can get to it and fix it. In the morning, it always looks better to him. I love that now he'll look at it and say "the painting fairies worked" when he realizes it looks better after he hasn't looked at it for awhile. They also work for headaches, but you have to take ibuprofen first. The headache fairies can't get into your body to fix it unless there's ibuprofen in your system. The only ones that keep effing up are the gravy fairies...they always over-thicken my gravy. The fairies tend to fix things rather than prevent things, so maybe I'm messing up by not praying to the gravy god.
As far as I can make out, people can 'interpret' their good book to justify anything they care to. How fabulous to have that permission. How good a life must be when a person can always say, "I'm right" because it says so in my book. Atheism must appear as anathema.
This episode is very sad. It demonstrates how people give up their humanity and decency for religion. Emery, and especially Brian should be ashamed of themselves.
For Jimmy: It is a fact of our biology as human beings that we are adverse to harm. It is also a fact that we are social creatures with the ability to experience empathy. I don't want to be harmed. I can look at other people and recognise they don't want to be harmed either. If harm is coming my way, I'm going to try to stop it. The more harm coming my way, the more drastic actions I will take to try and stop it. And since I have empathy, I can look at other people and recognise they probably work the same way. This means that if I act in ways that are harmful to other people, it increases the likelihood of harm coming my way, However if I work co-operatvely with other people, that increases the likelihood that my wellbeing will improve too. Boom, morality, no god and no religion required. This is all that's needed for us to form a society with each other and decide to punish people who cause harm. Dogs have figured this out. Rats have figured this out. Why are theists still scratching their heads over this?
Brian called in to another show with a different thought and was schooled. I do wish that he had called the Atheist experience because he would have been royally schooled by former Muslim, Armin Navabi.
For anyone like Brian who thinks they can justify slavery, maybe look into what that would actually require. Slavery, is applying principles of property to persons (owning people as property.) It is prioritizing a person as an object of economic or personal gain, over them being a subject of social or moral consideration. In order to justify slavery, you need to justify why that prioritization is reasonable, and morally permissible.
Catan is AWESOME. In my college friend group we took like two hours to get through the rules and one of us wasn't even playing, just checking the rulebook as the game progressed to make sure everything went right. (It didn't.)
I'm a tabletop gamer. I'm glad you like it. To me,there are many many games that are much more fun. Go to board game arena. It's an online site that is free to play. They have Catan there too. Cheers
John, they can't all be right but they _can_ all be wrong! If they're all wrong the median is still wrong. It doesn't get less wrong just by being the median position.
"In modernity, we are much more powerful than the all-powerful creator of the universe was 2000 years ago. He didn't have any other options available to him to stop behavior he didn't approve of like we do today." - Brian, 2024 Lmao
Massive fan of Matt but Seth is well up there at the moment (new to his content). And PLEASE can you voice lord of the rings 😂 it be amazing for my insomnia
It is wild to me how many people believe something withouth thinking about the easiest contra-arguments... they've really been thaught not to think too much about it (since they're just human and won't get it anyway)...like, what? Amazing episode by the way🎉
I wish Matt had asked John, if he would also become an atheist, if the mean opinion (of all humans for all time) changed to that position, which it very well may, if humans survive long enough into the future :)
I hope everyone gets to have a wonderful week! And thanks for your constant kindness, your comments always make me smile
Haha 1 min after lol
Thanks Faia. Lots of love from Australia.
God Bless you! 😜
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Faia - Happy first of Sept. and thanks once again for your efforts.
I have been an atheist for many many years, but as soon as he said Duke University science, I am now a Jesus follower. I am now convinced of a god. Thank you, Emery.
I really love watching Matt with Seth. These 2 balance each other, and you can tell they love and respect each other 😍😍😍
Brian "I love Muslims I think everybody should own one"
😂 that was extremely accurate
I dunno man. Unlimited hummus and Baba ghanoush on demand does sound tempting.
By Brian’s logic, Brian thinks differently to me, so I should be able to own him. That said, I’d have to return him to the market due to him being painfully faulty.
@@Viodoxz firstly, which religion are you talking about? That could equally apply to Christianity and Islam (among others)
Secondly, I’d not seek to end the ideology by enslaving people as it’s immoral and there are various other means which aren’t abhorrent.
@@Viodoxz by your logic we should enslave Brian, right?
Dude Jimmy might be my favorite call of the year.
He is precious and needs to be protected
Brian is an example of why religion is so harmful.
religion is humans worst invention ever....
Yes but what was this atheist Glen trying to pull
@@trafficjon400and that is an example of how Whataboutism works. I think it so needless to do. Particularly when concentrating on the crap that Brian pulled.
@@thomasfriedrich1269Whataboutism but hole. Great omniscience dumbing down his demonstraters.
Brian's attitude actually supports his own argument. I wonder how many generations of his progeny it would take to eliminate his ideas.
Brian: What's your definition of slavery?
Matt:
Brian: Well I think we all 3 would agree that the definition is something else correct?
Matt: No.
Brian:
“If you’ll just give up your critical faculties, a world of idiotic bliss can be yours.”
- Christopher Hitchens
...Brian again: OK, so we can all agree that it's that thing I said before before you said the actual definition is something else, right?
@@IRGeamerdescribes sooooooooo many people I know here in Texas.
Brian is all for slavery, but really didn’t like Matt absolutely owning him on this call.
I love how virtually every time he uttered the phrase "we can all agree" it was followed by something that the hosts vehemently disagree with.
When I first figured out that people die, my parents had a preacher tell me that a guy came back from the dead 2k years ago. This was about the same time I figured out that Santa and the Easter Bunny were fake, so it was not a big leap to doubt the resurrection crap too.
Jimmy is a proper caller, honest and willing to listen.
He was this time. He's been belligerent on other occasions.
Except he is dumb as a doornail.
He thinks other religions don't have a concept of harm but fails to even grasp that it doesn't matter if a religion is true or not. It could still have a concept of harm.
he was not honest at all
I found it dubious when he opened with claiming he's been watching the show for years but then everything else coming out of his mouth seemed like he'd actively missed the thousands of common calls around exactly what he was calling about.
Guess there can be a difference between watching the show and paying attention to the show haha
Seth: "I'm unhinged, man. I'm unhinged." *in the most soothing voice ever* 🤣
seths voice is something else.....its wonderful
@@Pmrace1960 I believe Seth is an alternate universe's Morgan Freeman.
Seth is atheist ASMR❤
@@EmpressLizard81 🔥"Unhinged ASMR with Seth Andrews"🔥; only it's like THE most relaxing and chill and centered shit possible....
😂😭🤣 I love the sound of that so much!!!
I think my boy Brian might not be playing with a full deck.
Lacking empathy…
like to say he has a few missing but it could be more than just a few
clearly not, one minute hes gushing about how much he loves muslims & calling them his brothers, and the next minute hes saying he wants to enslave them
1/2 an Uno deck😄
Crazy 8's?
In addition to the Ann Frank example, I can think of another time when lying is best. If a person is in memory care, and cannot remember that their spouse has died, even after multiple repetitions, because they have NO short term memory, should be told lies like, "oh, he stepped out; he'll be right back." This was my mother after my father had died. The goal was to keep her happy. Otherwise, every time she was told was the first time, and she would get upset and cry in grief, only to have forgotten again 10 minutes later. Lying really was, far and away, best. 😢
Jimmy was the best call on this show.👍
I give him 4-5 years top, he will be an atheist
@@laymelekI doubt that. But at least he’ll be less likely to take things on authority.
I love hearing people's paths on this show, and now hearing those moments in Jimmy as it's now all starting to fall apart is so wonderful to experience.
John: I don't commit fallacies. But I can and will inject new fallacies and double down on the previous ones. All I need to believe in the Islamic deity is a median view that matches.
This was a great episode. So many theists that were completely open to exposing their fallacies and harmful thinking. Slavery, argumentum ad polulum, and a believer that finally got pressed to answer tough questions he can't answer and had to question their beliefs. Instant classic.
Jimmy's call was a wonderful ride down the slope from total, dangerous certainty to terrified doubt.... beautifully done.
Brian is awful. Can already tell he is trying to go with prison as and example of "slavery" which is why is is trying to side step ownership and property.
He tried so god damn hard to get there. And failed.
and most reasonable people would point to the slavery built into the American prison system is morally wrong. It is a means to make the chattel slavery of the antebellum legal - and yes, it was explicitly used that way after the civil war, as well.
@@AdeptPaladinexample?
@@AdeptPaladinagreed. However I might argue that the people using prisons as an example of slavery are attempting to mislead.
Brian is a real catch
I have a hard time believing Brian is real. Not because I think he’s a prank caller, but because I can’t imagine being that horrible.
And yet MAGA…
i dont think he was..........i have talked to loads of Brians
Ummm why do you think the white majority in the US opposes reparations specifically for Black Americans? Because they’re all Brians
he sounds like a rick and morty character
The fact he couldn’t even grasp the difference between receiving information first-hand or second-hand left me fairly confident he was genuinely that much of a bumblenugget.
I loved Jimmy's call. Sounds like he was honestly reflecting upon the conversation
The FIRST counter to Jimmy's argument would be that other social species have rudimentary "rules" to keep order in their group yet have no concept of religion. Granted these groups are not on the grand scale of human "civilizations" per se, but the basic concept of following certain guidelines within the group is still being practiced. Also, there are very successful & happy nations on this planet with very high rates of atheism. It's not binary - our choices aren't limited to an Amish village or North Korea.
Thank you Jimmy for being an awesome and honest caller
Wow.. I did'nt think i could hear anything worse than certain theists with no self awareness whatsoever saying that if they heard "gods" words commanding them to unalive their children, they would do it in a heartbeat, but Brian somehow managed to top that.
Don't make it a moral problem first.
@@goldwhitedragon
Why?
It is a moral issue!
One that shows the immoral nature of religion.
@@jameswright... I mean, according to game theory, group survival trumps moral issues.
@@goldwhitedragon
Group survival is a moral issue.
I'm curious about something. Is using the word "kill", as opposed to "unalive" somehow against the rules?
Religion is still holding back progress. The Bush administrations created all kinds of problems for stem cell research.
A 2000 year old book that holds all other progress back until the religion disappear.
stopped funding for 8 years of his presidency......
“And to Jepthah’s horror, it wasn’t his mother-in-law who came to greet him.”
😂😂😂😂😂
Seth’s face during Brian’s call😂
Sending all the love and good vibes out to Nadine. I think you're beyond awesome.
@@darrenleelayton6052 she really is
Yes, she certainly has a positive outlook which is important.
She sounds like a fire to light entire buildings anywhere she goes; and like she's got her morals on straight! May she bounce back harder than a kangaroo! ✨🔥✨
Brian is a very good example as to how low humankind has sunk in the US.
Brian had lost all of his humanity. Guys like him were running the concentration camps during ww2, guys like him are the tourturers around the world , guys like him are dangerous, they are needed for a functional dictatorship, guys like him are dumb, cruel and willfully ignorant, the bottom dwellers of society.
So do something about it wise guy.
@@goldwhitedragon He did. He made a comment about how stupid he is.
@@goldwhitedragon That was a pretty dumb reply from "not-so-wise guy". Want to try again with an intelligent response or is that it?
@@csjrogerson2377 Shalom. That's it.
Here before Faia's timestamps. I don't know if I can navigate this alone!
Same boat
Debating if it's worth it, suddenly urged to find something productive to do for an hour or so.
I listened to the whole thing. It's a great show; no need for time stamps.
@@dantheman2907 sorry I was late today! Hope they can still help you now and I hope you have a wonderful week!!
I know I can't nor do I want to.
What a phenomenal show. Seth & Matt make it seem effortless
dont think ive heard a good christian call in a long time
Hey Matt! Hey Seth! Good to see you both in this show! You do a great work in helping people to get rid of the stupid and dangerous prejudices of religion. Thank you both!
Wow, Jimmy was a great call, and proves that Matt can do street epistemology at times. LOVED this and Jimmy's honesty.
John with the Gumball experiment- You don't understand that this experiment applies to something you can observe and make an educated guess about. It does NOT validate a majority opinion about something that is not observable and restestable. You don't understand the experiment or it's application. Each of your positions were being carefully deconstructed by Matt and you weren't following logical conclusions.
It's one of the worst arguments for god I've ever heard. And the fact that John couldn't see the flaw in it was wild.
All that to get to just faith…..:/
The fun part is that in reality people point to each other being wrong about god, so the Gumball experiment would mean that the educated guess is that there is no god that has been described.
But then again, theists love to mis represent reality.
What's even worse is the most people are going to be wrong but the correct answer is the average of religious beliefs. Which is probably in line with basic morality
There's also the fact that a mathematical mean/median of a large number of guesses is nothing like an "average" that is either the largest individual answer or a commonality within the most frequent answer. 🤪😂
I thought Emery was a hot mess and then Brian happened to
emery almost human compared to Brian
I changed my mind Glenn was the weirdest.
I can deal with theists who have wacko views way more than I can deal with rude/weird/entitled atheists
52:35 Brian. Bryan says that if you control another human being that that is part of slavery, but parents control children all the time and children are not our slaves.
Matt calling someone a “whiny little bitch” while constantly putting them on hold for trying to explain his position was pure Mattitude at its finest.
I was glad to hear Seth basically say ‘Let the dude speak’
Sorry to say with as much as I used to love Matt his shows have become more about him than any type of discourse.
Him and Jimmy need to stop with the "it's our show, we can do whatever we want"
Like obviously they can but it's in bad faith.
Mute the people that refuse to answer a question or blatantly interrupt
@@mactallica9293 mute the people that won't answer questions or are interrupting eh? Seems to me like that's exactly what they're already doing.
@user-rw5zw9wi2q "blatantly interrupt" that is not what is being only muted.
Watch the other hosts and how they mute.
Matt will sometimes make the call come to a grinding halt with these weird tactics.
Or he'll sit there for 3 minutes demanding a guy to apologize
@@mactallica9293 so it's unreasonable to want an apology from dodgy dishonest people who refuse to engage in a conversation honestly?
@user-rw5zw9wi2q Yes, that is extremely weird to stop a show to try and scold a person and demand an apology for something that is usually minor
40:34 Emery, we could all hear Matt's question land when you went completely silent. Thank you for actually listening.
Hey Brian, there's a really good word you should look up the definition of if you get the time 🤗
"Sociopathic"
Or dickhead
Haha I read that as sociopathetic
@@ScottM1973 Well, that's my new favorite insult
😂
John straight up said that if a bunch of people tell him something, he will believe it. And if more people tell him a different thing, he will instead believe that. That is the thinking of a gullible simpleton. That is the thinking of an infant. Grow up John.
Basically argument ad populum- argument from popularity. It’s once was popular to believe the earth was flat, too.
The bible wants their believers to be as a child in their understanding. So easily led and gullible. John is the perfect christian...
The fact it took an eternity to get him to grasp the basic aspects of the three gumball jars analogy sums John up perfectly.
@@privatepile762 No, yOu dON't unDErsTaNd, iT's thE GUm bAll ExperiMEnT!
OP is correct, infantile thinking... it's alarming when we realize that those people also vote...
Brian was a hilarious struggle.
So you have chosen... masochism...
It was like he called in from another century!
@@Viodoxz no one with even a basic understanding of morality or empathy would call in to defend slavery.
I think Brian's misunderstanding of 2nd hand comes from the fact the his friend provided a 1st hand account. Then he failed to realize that he is a 2nd party
This is a great episode for several reasons.
Matt is always great but I’d double my patronage for guarantee Seth guesting once per month.
Only once per month!?!
I would prefer once per week instead. I love his thoughts and voice.
seth is always great value....
Seth is the best. Evrytime he is on the WIFE mentions how much she love his voice and thoughts, then I agree with her. : )
@@Eric-cj8sb talking about wives i heard on one show seths wife was still a christian...now i think seth is absolutely brilliant and if he cant make his wife see the religion is nonsense it shows how hopeless our task is......
Glenn, I recommend six fewer beers when you call in.
“What does Duke university have to do with anything?” “Science.” Emery 😂
😅 Part of the problem when you condition religious people to believe in magic words is when they stumble out of that bubble, and hear other people using words in ways that confound them, and then imagine that repeating those words will produce a magical effect of understanding, without giving any thought to the context and meaning that should go along WITH those words.
May Emery go on to understand what science actually is, what it means, and why it _might_ support an idea if the context at the moment is appropriate.
Worse thing about the Ark Encounter is after using modern construction and over $100M to build it doesn't even float. Noah build one by hand, stored every creature on earth and sailed 110 days in a flood that covered the entire plant. Both stories are beyond ridiculous and could have never happened but someone actually spent the $100M.
It was over a year, btw. Even more unbelievable
The funny thing is that originally they wanted to have a lot of animals in it. But they wasn't aloud to because despite the modern ventilation it wasn't enough for even a petting zoo.
All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.
Poor Brian, Seth said to give him more oxygen and he literally thought it was some kind of compliment for him to keep talking..ouchie!
brian you are not equipped for this
a constructive conversation by you guys & Jimmy
just some honest reflection and answers gets people on a path to truth.
A real battle of wits with Jimmy, unfortunately Jimmy was unarmed.
Next time someone like Jimmy calls him to say that you need religion for civilisation, ask him about Japan, Sweden, Iceland...
Japan's population is mostly shinto. Although i do agree with your point
Nadine, I hope things go well for you and your enthusiasm was wonderful!
Im from Kentucky and i am embarrassed that he was able to build that monstrosity. There were claims that tax dollars may have gone to the construction and really hope that was not true. My biggest problem with it was that it wouldn't have been able to float. I mean if you are going to build it the damn thing should at least be able to float.
They know a boat built with no steel and ancient techniques that big would fall apart on the first tide. No storm or flood necessary. They just don't want to admit it.
Education is important.
Brian starts out with a higher being in his explanation and the only way it could be done is... if it's a higher being and it is supposed to be all-powerful you are a moron as it should be able to change them without doing any of that. It's funny how this all-powerful being is never powerful enough to do something good.
@Brad : If you're talking to a murderer or Thief threatening you, they've broken our social contract of civility. You don't need to be honest.
When I was growing up, my mom would routinely tell me that if God told her to kill me, she would. She liked to glorify Abraham in that situation as some kind of paragon. She also told me that if someone held a gun to my head and told me they would kill me if I said I believed in God, and then asked, I should tell them that I did, because it would be better to die then deny God.
The discipline put against the callers here is no less than awesome. Thank you Matt and Seth.
The gum ball experiment works because of the visual data that is available to the people making a guess and their experience with volumes and small items. It can’t just be applied to every question, e.g. about causation of events. Showing the picture of a dead body to a million people doesn’t identify the murderer based on the median answer.
Not to mention that religion is usually being passed on through childhood indoctrination. It’s not like every person independently looks at the evidence and concludes a god like they would with the gum balls. The median god answer is based on how religion spreads, not on actual data that is being observed.
You can almost hear the point wiffle over johns head.
Sunday show!!! The day of sin, let the sinning commence!
Yes. Seth nailed it. Jeptha sacrificed his daughter to god, with god's approval. Child sacrifice. This is undisputed.
Jimmy was a great call! He had his position but he didn't have a preemptive script, nor did he deflect or lie. Great guy with a bit of ignorance, I think it's almost a certainty that a person like that will overcome that ignorance. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. Good luck Jimmy.
He's called b4. I think he has Stockholm syndrome.
Keep up the fun loving life Nadine…awesome sense of humor
That Emery call was very hard to listen to..
- Back away from the phone, Emery.
- Yes sir, sorry..
(Still not listening and shouting out random words like hell..) 😖💀
DUKE UNIVERSITY ¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We do this silly thing in our house where we thank the Gods for helping. For instance if I forgot to turn the pan of ground meat off, but caught it before it burned, I will thank the Taco Gods. I enjoy it and chuckle every time.
Oh it's not just me then! I work as a mailman, and if I've had a particularly bad night's sleep before work I'll often ask the "delivery gods" to grant me an easy work shift that day.
That’s a great way to instill a sense of parody to religion that it deserves. All god beliefs are just as silly.
In our house it's fairies. My boyfriend paints a picture, doesn't like it, wants to throw it out, so I tell him to put it away for the night so the painting fairies can get to it and fix it. In the morning, it always looks better to him. I love that now he'll look at it and say "the painting fairies worked" when he realizes it looks better after he hasn't looked at it for awhile.
They also work for headaches, but you have to take ibuprofen first. The headache fairies can't get into your body to fix it unless there's ibuprofen in your system. The only ones that keep effing up are the gravy fairies...they always over-thicken my gravy. The fairies tend to fix things rather than prevent things, so maybe I'm messing up by not praying to the gravy god.
Wow, you people really have it dialed in. I need some of those fairies/gods in my life 😅
@@cocobutter3175 Hilarious! I love it.
Missed the live show--I'd mention how much I like Matt's shirt.
He is great! Praise Him! O Lord on high! Lord Spanky!
Brian has tried to put his B.S. viewpoints on these kinds of programs many times before.
John- "I don't understand standard distribution therefore argumentum ad populum."
Wow Seth, Bravo!! Standing O to you!!
Hey, Brian, when you play first-person shooters, do you see the game through the player or the npc's? Think about it.
As far as I can make out, people can 'interpret' their good book to justify anything they care to. How fabulous to have that permission. How good a life must be when a person can always say, "I'm right" because it says so in my book. Atheism must appear as anathema.
This episode is very sad. It demonstrates how people give up their humanity and decency for religion. Emery, and especially Brian should be ashamed of themselves.
For Jimmy: It is a fact of our biology as human beings that we are adverse to harm. It is also a fact that we are social creatures with the ability to experience empathy. I don't want to be harmed. I can look at other people and recognise they don't want to be harmed either. If harm is coming my way, I'm going to try to stop it. The more harm coming my way, the more drastic actions I will take to try and stop it. And since I have empathy, I can look at other people and recognise they probably work the same way. This means that if I act in ways that are harmful to other people, it increases the likelihood of harm coming my way, However if I work co-operatvely with other people, that increases the likelihood that my wellbeing will improve too. Boom, morality, no god and no religion required. This is all that's needed for us to form a society with each other and decide to punish people who cause harm.
Dogs have figured this out. Rats have figured this out. Why are theists still scratching their heads over this?
motivated reasoning, they don't want to acknowledge a naturalisti explanation,
motivated reasoning, they don't want to acknowledge a naturalisti explanation,
Brian called in to another show with a different thought and was schooled. I do wish that he had called the Atheist experience because he would have been royally schooled by former Muslim, Armin Navabi.
"I find it interesting that what people claim god wants, always seems to coincide with what they want." - Susan BA
Is Brian a psychopath?
And a sociopath
Yes
For anyone like Brian who thinks they can justify slavery, maybe look into what that would actually require.
Slavery, is applying principles of property to persons (owning people as property.) It is prioritizing a person as an object of economic or personal gain, over them being a subject of social or moral consideration.
In order to justify slavery, you need to justify why that prioritization is reasonable, and morally permissible.
John the only reason the gumball experiment has any use is because at the end they pour out the gumballs and count them. You can't do that for God.
Brian at 1:15!!! Wow!! This guy called in right out of the 12th Century! The Line Network rocks time and space!
Tell me you don’t understand the Gum-ball Experiment without telling me you don’t understand the Gum-ball Experiment.
There's this, a gumballogist with Eric... and the person who figured the puddle analogy worked to advocate theism.
Catan is AWESOME. In my college friend group we took like two hours to get through the rules and one of us wasn't even playing, just checking the rulebook as the game progressed to make sure everything went right. (It didn't.)
I'm a tabletop gamer. I'm glad you like it. To me,there are many many games that are much more fun. Go to board game arena. It's an online site that is free to play. They have Catan there too. Cheers
Seth, I went and looked at your video, well how on earth could anyone believe in intelligent design after that, well said my man.
John, they can't all be right but they _can_ all be wrong! If they're all wrong the median is still wrong. It doesn't get less wrong just by being the median position.
1:34:20 "Whether or not God commanded child sacrifice outright, I can't recall a verse off the top of my head...."
- Isaac....
"In modernity, we are much more powerful than the all-powerful creator of the universe was 2000 years ago. He didn't have any other options available to him to stop behavior he didn't approve of like we do today."
- Brian, 2024
Lmao
No points for guessing who Brian is voting for!
You can almost hear the rusty grinding of the gears as Jimmy from NY starts to think for the first time.
Massive fan of Matt but Seth is well up there at the moment (new to his content).
And PLEASE can you voice lord of the rings 😂 it be amazing for my insomnia
Legends in the same room
The Ark Encounter - In God we trust, everybody else gotta pay cash 🤑
Great show , whats the intro music ,a remix version of a remix from (Dancing Divaz Club Mix) ?
It is wild to me how many people believe something withouth thinking about the easiest contra-arguments... they've really been thaught not to think too much about it (since they're just human and won't get it anyway)...like, what?
Amazing episode by the way🎉
It’s paradoxically honest of John to admit he’s trying to be dishonest.
Thanks
And with Jepthah says he'll offer as a burnt offering of whatever comes through his door. A lifetime of consecrstion WOULD NOT be a burnt offering.
emery must have been one of those unfortunate children that toured the creationist museum. places like that scar people for ever.
normally he would have been the number 1 crank but along came Brian....
“Wtf does duke university have to do with anything?”
“Science!”
LMFAO!!!!!!
I wish Matt had asked John, if he would also become an atheist, if the mean opinion (of all humans for all time) changed to that position, which it very well may, if humans survive long enough into the future :)
Love you Matt 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 love you Seth 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤