6:35 Jake: CA: I Saw God on DMT and It’s Real to Me 21:10 David: CA: Skepticism, The Limitations of Logic, Evidence 27:45 David: CA: The Gospels Are Political Propaganda and I Know Who Wrote Them 38:35 Kevin: CA: I Choose My Beliefs, The Afterlife, Faith 1:09:15 James: NC: The Efficacy of Intuition 1:22:10 Daniel: CA: Modern Science Proves the Biblical Flood, Dinosaurs Died in Flood 1:32:30 Eloise: IA: Coming Out LGBT and Atheist to Religious Family, Mental Health Tips 1:52:22 Matt: SC: Darwin Was a Racist, Why Listen to Him?, Matt is a Modern Day Pharisee
On Darwin. I'm being an armchair quarterback here, but explain it like you're explaining it to a moron or a 5 year old. Never detailed explanations in those cases. When you're long winded and detailed the not so smart will stop listening. Keep explanations very short in those cases.
When I lost my faith I felt like I lost everything. The phrase "without you I am nothing." Was one of my biggest convictions, when I lost faith I felt like I my life was closing in on itself. I was Sunday school teacher, Christian Youth Leader and a Christian camp counselor, my entire identity was within the Christian Doctrine. I was lost for years with the belief that everything is meaningless. Today I don't feel that way, I've found life with meaning outside of faith and I'm glad with it.
Riley McElroy Can I ask a serious question? As a Sunday school teacher, Youth leader..did you ever wonder if telling children that God did exist, the Bible was correct, etc., was potentially hurting them rather than letting someone come to that decision, or not, on their own? I ask because my own upbringing was “find what works for you” so I went to a few friends’ churches and Sunday schools, and a few were the “fire and brimstone” sort of lecture/teaching and they scared the crap (and belief) outta me right then and there! I couldn’t equate a loving God with punishing me forever simply for having doubts, or questioning His existence. Anyway, I hope you’re having a great day/night whenever and wherever you’re reading this.
@@AC-gb7do At the time I was a teacher, that thought never crossed my mind. At the time I believed I was doing the Lord's work and doing good by the children I taught. Today I hold conflicting veiws on that subject, part of thinks I could of done harm to the Children, but what I taught was mostly tolerance and love to fellow man and anti-bullying from a biblical perspective for the most part, so if what stuck with them was that they should treat others with kindness then I am great ful to be of service in that aspect, but if they grew up to be bigoted Christians then I do feel I have a part in that as well. My hope is that along the way the do make their own decisions and formulate their own beliefs whichever way they decide if it comes from their heart and mind I am ok with that.
If I were you, I would stop saying "I lost my faith." That makes it sound valuable, like I lost my keys, or I lost my money in the stock market, or I lost my true love. All you lost was a delusion--nice going, congratulations. It also makes it sound like some unfortunate event happened to you, like you got cancer or something, when in reality you gained one of the best things a human can achieve: intellectual autonomy. It sounds like you experienced something akin to mourning, and I can relate to that. It's normal when you have to reframe your entire world view. But as you now know, it gets better, and potentially it gets FAR better than it was.
@@bradchervel5202 I have a problem with Don's "Failures of Christianity" rants. Sometimes he comes up with some valuable comments but most of the time he is stating the bleeding obvious.
@@kayb9979 I mean this show is f-ing 20 years old, it doesnt need classroom time. I love Don, but seriously it's gonna end....Christianity done failed already.
@Austin Mark I don't like Don's small intros either and generally, he's just an annoyance when Matt's in a discussion. However, I think Don is really great when it comes to giving ppl. emotional support and reading ppl. Matt can often come off as almost autistic when it comes to things that are are not about debate and reasoning. And Matt doesn't seem to be able to read callers intellectual capacity, so he often have discussions that are clearly beyond the comprehension (he uses words, phrases that the caller that is obvious the caller don't have any clue about).
They should clone Matt so that we could have the show co-hosted by Matt Dillahunty with host Matt Dillahunty. And they do the good Matt bad Matt routine, alternating roles between each call.
@@larjkok1184 A clone would not be the age of the person being cloned. The fertilized ovum would have to be implanted into a surrogate, be born, then grow up. It would be a different person, because is experiences would be different.
Matt is like a fine wine. He has honed his skills to perfection as he has aged. He is looking healthy and I just hope he keeps fronting TAE. I will only watch TAE now with Matt, especially since the others have left. I live in the UK and this is my weekly fix!
@@MisterMcKinney you should check some highlighted episodes if you look for russell glasser, he is so ironic and funny, annoys the shit out of some pedantic callers. But yeah, Matt is the best.
“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.” - Terence McKenna
@Chiafade now, I am really sorry brother about my English, I am not good in English, I just try to write something to makes clear to understand the Truth about Jesus the Living God. God bless you.
So glad second caller Arrogant McSmugface got hung up on, he was clearly one of those people who just called in to read his poorly worded script and would not get off of it for any reason. Matt HAD to give the answers he was expecting or his script would not work, so when Matt disagreed with him he just had to call Matt a liar, even when the subject was what was going on in Matt's own head.
It sometimes feels like that: they have a script in front of them, and they need to go through it, line by line, and ignore ALL the questions that are being asked, just continue with their script !!
Actually at 22:33 Matt does the give the criteria for evidence as needing to be "sufficient." He states that he can believe anything provided there is sufficient evidence. He states this and then promptly forgets that he did so in favor of having no criteria whatsoever. Im sorry, its right there at 22:33, so Matt's kinda full of it on this one.
@@unit0033 Sorry, but at the very beginning, the caller explicitly stated that he was not interested in immediately arguing for God's existence. Very clearly stated. But, Matt decided that the caller was too "arrogant," felt he was being called a "liar," hangs up and spends another minute attacking a straw-man. Whats impressive about that? Would not even allow a single premise to be stated. Matt sabotaged the discussion by assuming some kind of personal offense had taken place, and then used it as justification for hanging up, probably because he didn't want to think about what the callers argument might have been.
@@PhilipBji the caller was implying Matt was lying, thats clear to everyone but you apparently. The caller was making assertions such as suggesting Matt did know what evidence would be required when he clearlt stated he did not know. Maybe the caller should have a long think about his argument then phone back.
I love Matt D's silver tongue. He can articulate things in a way that most accurate representation of how I often feel, yet can't articulate as well as he does. I literally had multiple theist try and tell me what I think or believe this week. Thanks Matt, I wouldn't know how to represent myself and my feelings as well without you.
Kevin/“Daniel” was a great caller. He was actually willing to have a discussion and hear Matt out. He was also a good sport about being misnamed. Matt went off on a few tangents, which were informative, and Kevin was a good listener.
@@colaboytje for most people...that alone are traits worth some respect... i wonder where he is now in life hmm.... perhaps it started some growing for him so to speak.
Matthew from South Carolina is way out of his depth. He can only see all logic and epistemology through the Biblical lens but not even his own analysis of the Bible, just what he has been told to believe. He does a good job parroting what his preacher has taught him about the Pharisees denying Jesus's (supposed) divinity. But he doesn't understand the Pharisees, what an atheist is, or anything about formal logic or epistemology. "You know what I said was true". There really is no response to that except to hang up. It is dishonest debate. Telling the other person what they know or what they believe is both arrogant and stupid.
A couple of callers sure gave Matt good reason to fly off the handle. Trying to tell someone they know what you think they believe is a big mistake, especially with Matt.
So we have a valid OP that telling other people you know what they think better than they do is a surefire end to a discussion, but some of you went straight for insults? Where does that get you?
@@kadene2 a guy claimed that some trans athletes have an advantage in some sports, Jen, Tracy, and a few people on the show wanted to label him, and anyone who held that belief as a transphobic bigot, when the ACA did not adopt that as an official position they, completely guided by emotion, lost their temper and left.
@Truthus Maximus that's the very condensed version but yes. the longer version is that rationality rules came on to the show and was a guest and some people pointed out that his video about trans athletes contained some mistakes, he told the people at the ACA he was going to correct the mistakes and has since done so, but before he could do so the ACA denounced him and essentially accused him of being transphobic. the entire community reacted very negatively to this because it seemed very untrue, that particular episode of The atheist experience in which the then-president did not retract the statement and tried to brush it off had over 1,000 downvotes, much of the cast, Matt not included, we're happy to label all such people as transphobic bigots, the next time Matt appeared on the show he made it clear he was very unhappy with the way the ACA handled things, when the aca retracted their condemnation of rationality rules it seems that many people involved in the show said "you must condemn him or we are gone", logic prevailed, the aca did not condemn 99.999% of the population of being transphobic bigots, and some of the cast left. Since then that president has been replaced by Matt. when rationality rules responded with a video to the nonsense that the ACA was blathering Matt actually posted a link to his video saying "agreed"
If he'd still valued pursuit of the truth, facts and the application of logic he wouldn't have remained a preacher for long. They practice the art of deception, prevarication and obfuscation of the truth.
I miss those that recently left, though I am very much enjoying bringing in new and less known co-hosts. I would LOVE to have Jenn , John , and Tracy back but this is still very enjoyable.
the skin color is an adaptive difference driven by 2 different requirements, more melanin in the skin prevent excessive damage by UV rays that may lead to cancer in high solar radiation countries , less melanin allows enough UV ray to penetrate the skin to synthesize vitamin D in low solar radiation countries
Vitamin D is needed for bone growth, so the shade of the skincolor changes with the age, it's lighter, when you're younger, to allow for better growth and get's darker with age. That is, if you are in a constant environment. Drastically changing that will slowly change your skincolor. And if you get your Vitamin D from somewhere else, like fish, your skincolor is not under selective pressure anymore, as seen in the Eskimo population.
It was clear within a few minutes that both Davids from CA are people who always think they are the smartest person in the room (maybe they were overcome with this delusion after getting an A+ in their philosophy and rhetoric courses?). Who was it that said, "If you're the smartest person in the room, invite smarter people to your room, or realize that you are in the wrong room"? Maybe it was Uncle Jed.
I think we choose what we believe when there is a need to believe in something. I was raised in the mormom church and as far as I can tell I never believed in it. I stopped going to church when I was 16, and believing that I needed some sort of God in my life I turned to Druidry. I liked the gods and goddesses but the community was scarce and really just a bunch of hippies, I combined Druidry with Wicca and possibly some other spiritualities to get what I felt I needed. So, about 10 years ago I was introduced to the Norse Pantheon dropped my old beliefs and completely adopted the Norse beliefs. I like the Gods and Goddesses and the stories. So I can say I chose those beliefs. Very recently, I started listening to Mr Atheist, Matt Dillahunty, and many others and have finally realized I didn't actually need a god, that even though I liked the Norse pantheon there was no reason to believe they existed. Thank you Matt for helping me drop that nonsense, it's been too much of a distraction for so long.
The notion of a forever conscience scares me. Whether we live forever happy and fulfilled in heaven, or miserable and deprived in hell, we need a break from this mysterious thing we call conscience
Oh, Jake please. I experience weird shit in my dreams (altered brain states) nearly every week. Christ, I've even played pool with Elvis - I won by the way.
Darwin wasn't a racist. He was incredibly progressive for his time. By "races" he meant "animal species", not human ethnicities. The definitions, connotations, and implications of words have changed.
And hypothetically speaking even if he was that wouldn't change the evidence that he's found. People seem to think that we worship darwin. If the guy who discovered the germ theory of disease had been a murderer, would that have any effect on the germ theory of disease? Of course not. There was a whole lot of stuff that Darwin got wrong he's not the end all be all of evolution he's the tip of the iceberg. And these people seem to think that even if he was racist that that has anything to do with our position on evolution and it doesn't. I agree with you that he wasn't racist I'm just saying it baffles my mind why people would think that would matter anyway. Even if he was racist then we could say hey evolution is true the evidence he found was groundbreaking and has led us in the direction we are going today, but he's a fucking piece of shit.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 True. I mean, we do exactly this with a bunch of stuff the Nazis discovered/made. Nazis and other horrible people found out things about biology and psychology through horribly unethical means and we condemn them for it, but we still make use of the discoveries in order to help people today.
I happen to know Mattew's nickname is "SittinThere" He's called before, and was hung up on. when he gets angry, he gets hyper-focused on where everyone in the convo is sitting... "So are you gonna sit there and expect me to sit here and tell me where ill be sittin? Cuz, buddy - I aint about ta sit here an listen" Ladies and Gentlemen, Mathew SittinThere
53:25 A magical hand just brought Matt a Coke Zero. It knew Matt wanted a coke, so it must be able to read his mind. *Praised be The Hand, bringer of drinks, quencher of thirsts*
DMT has been called the spirit molecule, and it has been found in very low doses in the pinneal gland. It seems to be tied to dreaming or unconscious awareness in humans. Could you just as accurately say, "I dreamed about God, so he's real!"
+ frie jemi I had a dream about going to sleep and dreaming of using DMT and then meeting a sleeping God that was dreaming of humans. Therefore humans are real.....
What? There is a dinosaur in my garage! Well, he's invisible. That's why my cat won't go out there. Well, she wants to, but I won't let her because of the dinosaur in my garage. He's very old. I think Jesus rode him into Jerusalem. I think one of my facts may be wrong, That makes my other facts correct!
@Edmond Dantes So that is why there was a dinosaur in my garage!! I had to spend money on 2 brontoburgers, for some reason he would not accept the deal with only one. I dont know where he moved though.
I love these guys who are just absolutely certain that they have discovered something brand new in a book that has been dissected for 1000s of years. And all in their spare time.
Oh dear! "Favoured races" means "favoured species" - "races" was not used in the 1850s in the way it is now. The Origin of Species says nothing about humans at all - The Decent of Man does. Please get this right.
Actually, I think at the time, races of humans meant SUB-species. Darwin classified them based on things like skin color. He was wrong. Big deal. He didn't know about melanin or DNA back then. He still got the process of natural selection correct. His theory of evolution has been slightly modified over the past 150 years as science has progressed. What does it matter if he was for or against various races as being superior? That wasn't the crux of his theory of evolution. Newton believed in alchemy and angels, but does that make his theory of gravity magical and angelic?
Benjamin Nowack Ikr, Matt was quick to denounce Darwin as racist (not even bothering to bring up that Darwin used the word race the way we would use subspecies or breed today) which maybe so by today’s standards but back then it was actually offensive to polite English society how not racist he was
@@andyrihn1 You're right. 'Race' meant little more than 'type'. In fact Darwin was pretty well alone in pointing out that humans are al the same species (in The Descent of Man).
My brother was, and pretty much is, a bully. When I was 11 and he was 17 he convinced me that it would be a good idea to take a shit ton of LSD. Into the trip he made me think that, not only he, but all of my family was possessed by demons. This was his idea of a good time. For months afterwards I wouldn't even want to be alone with a family members. To me, they looked like they were, poorly, acting as if they were who they were. I'm not sure exactly why I'm sharing this story (aside from being a serial commenter) except from, no, it turned out my family wasn't possessed and that even when we're on powerful drugs our pattern seeking, flawed, mammalian brain, make mistakes. I only wish I could relive this experience with an adult mind but every time after that when someone had some "acid" it was fake. And speaking of drugs: Kevin. Stop drunk dialing.
Really wanted to listen to Matt go further with caller #2. I love what Matt does, but sometines he cuts the conversations short that have the potential to be the most entertaining.
Believin in an afterlife IS a dangerous belief. Because if you lose someone really important to you and find yourself in such a deep depression because of it, that the chemical reactions in your brain get messed up, you might find yourself in the mindset that you can reconnect with your loved ones if you die. And can make you take that final step and commit suicide. I remember in one of the older episodes of the show, I think it was one with Tracie(don't remember who she hosted with), they talked about a story( I guess someone shared in an email to the show) about a little girl that couldn't handle her father's death and commited suicide "to be with her daddy" as she wrote in her suicide note. I still to this day think about this story. I myself even while getting out of religion held to the belief that there was an afterlife. And I thought it was a good harmless belief, but after that story, I am convinced that it is probably one of the most harmful beliefs because it devalues life right here and now
Einsame M I think about the story of that little girl all the time as well. It’s one of the first things I bring up when people say that religion isn’t harmful. I wish that little girl was still alive. Her mother also said “if it wasn’t for my son, I don’t think I could handle the pain either” or something along those lines. It’s heartbreaking. I also bring up all of the children who are dead because their parents refused to take them to a doctor and instead took them to a preacher to pray for the child when they were deathly ill or not deathly ill that turned into death. It’s awful.
Re: the oldest living tree - the oldest Quaking Aspen grove is 80,000 years old. That's eighty thousand. It is known as Pando. Apparently it missed the flood, along with the state of Utah, which is where it is located.
I am amazed by the logic used to advocate for using drugs to determine supernatural existence. If you want to truly be sure your mind is not playing a trick on you you should not use drugs. It is like pouring water into your computer and then be amazed by the strange behavior your computer show. Yes, it sure can be fun but it is not a reliable path to find what is true. Amazed!
People who take drugs like DMT and think they've shown them the truth of reality, need to show how they're in any more of a sound state of mind than a drunkard high on alcohol is who believes that they've solved the mysteries of life by chatting in a bar with their drinking buddies at 3AM. They can't show the difference, because it's analogous in too many ways, it's about people taking mind-altering drugs that warp how they think and feel in ways they can't control with buggy results, and warping how you think in one session doesn't make you smarter or see anything more clearly, only brute education and endless years of feedback on all our failed attempts at reason can help chip away at those problems in our thinking. Not to mention, taking a drug that has a huge emotional impact regardless of content, is bound to appeal to our sunk cost fallacious investment architecture we come pre-equipped with, and tilt our bias to be favourable toward whatever we associate with that emotional experience, the more emotionally heavy the more risk of bias. There's a reason we have disinterested third parties to verify, fact check, examine evidence. Police officers who get involved jeopardise cases with their investment bias, scientists who get too involved over years or take money become more distrusted, personal experience clouds our judgement.
@@CosmicEpiphany Sure, overclocking works to a degree but if you do too much you will be faced with the blue screen of death. You will also affect the longevity of the component of your computer.
A person in the top chat replay said dinosaur bones found elastic proteins roughly 5,000 years old. First of all, dinosaurs bones didn't find anything. I guess the person meant people found the proteins. No non-avian dinosaur proteins were found under about 65 million years old. That can be dismissed without even checking it. If any were, it would be all over the news as maybe the biggest story ever.
51:28 that split brain patient case is so interesting. It blew my mind when I first heard of it and altered the way I think about consciousness. People should know about this, because it debunks so many strange believes and ideas people have.
DMT and salvinorum (Salvia extract) are both interesting psychedelics. Both VERY powerful and both mind-blowing. However, they can be a bit too much for wanna-be psychedelic warriors. Neither open any gateway to another dimension. I've used both hundreds of times over decades (along with STP, LSD, psilocybin, even belladonna) and if anything, my experiences strengthened my skepticism of the supernatural. The chemistry of the mind is fascinating and altering it can seemingly tear reality and the ego structure apart. One must be precise in their retrospective analysis of all their psychedelic experiences and not allow the brain to configure a false narrative (i.e. I smoked DMT and went to another dimension).
I have used salvia 80x many times, and it certainly produced strong feelings of "oneness" or some sort of time-space breakdown in the trip, but never did I think it was some sort of profound revelation, because we have an understanding of how drugs effect the brain. Furthermore it should be expected that humans, who are animals with similar brains, would experience similar effects when the same drug is given. That is how depression medicine works.
'If you think you are holding a harmless belief, you may want to re-examine that.' I'm gonna put that on a T-shirt because I LOVE hammering people with understatements.
I've seen something that can only be described as "god" under the influence of psilocybin, yet i still don't beleave it was actually god - what i am convinced of is that hallucinogens are awesome fun.
Jake from California - atheist here, done DMT, if they dont have a breakout experience, they cant understand what you saw. I did, I understand and it wasnt god. Its you. The elves are cool, but they offer you no knowledge or truth.
There's a good story about that from Paul McCartney, about how he when he first tried Marijuana (that he got from Bob Dylan), gave a paper to his roadie telling him to keep it, because it contained the secret of the universe. The day after, since he was no longer high, he no longer knew what the secret was, but he got the paper back from the roadie. The paper said "There are seven levels".
He must have missed something then, because there should be 6 of something else to multiply that with, in order to arrive at the answer 42, the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. Of course, then there's still the matter of working out what the question is.
Dennis!! I haven’t listened to the Non Prophets much lately but I miss your epic intros. The opening argument for the Free Will debate is one I still quote from time to time.
I like to explore the possibilities of different dimensions and entities that exist beyond our perception... but I don't see how someone could set a definite outline of any of it actually existing. I've tripped before and experienced somewhat of what the first person is pointing out, and the whole thing about tasting colors and seeing sounds but to say it's all real (even though it all felt more than real) is a pretty big leap.
@Warstar And i'm one of those people. It freaked me out and made me panic lol, but in hindsight it was an experience. Don't know if i'd want to experience that again though
I appreciate Matt's rant about children. As a parent, I'm intelligent enough to know that my child doesn't have the same reasoning tools, and it's not their fault. I give them discipline without punishing them for things beyond their understanding. It's possible that some adults are still thinking like a child when they try to explain the Supernatural.
And a Hindu might see Vishnu, not Jesus; a Buddhist might have a conversation with The Buddha. What does that say about seeing 'a god' on hallucinogenic drugs?
You are quite incorrect, in the case of DMT which is also the active ingredient in ayhauasca and other shamanistic medicines that have been around before people had written history. People do not see their specific indoctrinated "gods".... These journeys are incredibly similar in what people say they have seen and "Who" or "what" they came into contact with. I have listened to many stories and have yet to hear one person mention Jesus or Buddha..etc.
Does anyone else wait until the show is over to watch it so you can watch it on 1.5x speed? I can’t watch anything at normal speed anymore it makes me so mad lol. This was a great show today!
Counterpoint to "Belief is a choice" - For the sake of argument, let's assume I can read your mind and confirm your sincerity. I tell you "I will give you one million dollars to believe in unicorns." Again, we will assume I actually can and will pay this. You now have a very strong incentive to believe this. Better yet, there is no down side - nothing to lose and much to gain. Despite all this, you are unable to just (CLICK) turn on this belief. Your being convinced or not convinced is a natural state you find yourself in regardless of incentives or desire. You cannot will yourself to be immediately and genuinely convinced. Of course, human imagination being what it is, with time and effort, you may be able to convince yourself. In other words self dillusion is a thing - but it is somehow a process, not an instantaneous act of will.
That's the thing. Sometimes it's difficult to drill down to what someone REALLY believes because the mind is a powerful and still very unknown thing. People can self-delude, including distract themselves if to avoid confronting whether they believe something. It says something when people pay therapists to help them understand their own minds.
Nice to have Denis on the show. Would have loved him to jump in even more on the can you choose your belief issue. Denis has had that shit right from years back if you go back and listen to the free will discussion with Matt, Denis and Jeff. Always love Matt on AE too. Nice to have him on more often. Still miss Tracie.
Matt and Aron are long-time friends. Almost as long as Matt's been hosting. Aran has been on axp a few times. Isn't the Unholy Trinity Matt, Aron, and Seth? (did several speaking tours)
David was wrong when he thought Philo had something to do with the writing of Mark. Philo wrote extensively about Pontius Pilate but never mentioned Jesus in his writings. Imagine the word became incarnate during Philo's lifetime and he was oblivious to it.
Yes, Philo of Alexandria is commonly cited as not having mentioned Jesus in all his writings even though he lived in the same time and traveled the same places.
I am interested in the idea that people believe that there is an afterlife. How long do they think they will be there? Eternity? Because that is a long time, and no matter how wonderful it might be there, the novelty will pall after the first few aeons. When you swat a fly, the fly’s conscious goes black-the end. The same fate awaits us.
Yea i always find it weird people cant accept that death is just nothingness, you have been nothing for billions of years before you were born yet you cant imagine it afterdeath
I like it when the Director and or Tech Director responds quickly and well to Matt or any of the hosts. I hate it when the Chyron (computer text generator) tech misspells and lets it go through the entire conversation.
Kevin u r hoping for something to be true and u sound like u realize there is no demonstrable reason... and if u really realize it at that point there is no reason to accept it before u have good evidence
Seriously, the milky way galaxy and another galaxy collide???? You have no clue. A galactic collision isn't "an event". It is a process that takes hundreds of million years if not longer. The milky way galaxy would be a mess right now still. Even if you sped it up and the centers collided, it would still be way longer than 9,000 years ago.
Matt, sometimes the look on your face while someone launches into saying the thing you just told them they were trying to say...it's worth the price of admission.
In reference to Daniel from California and his Noah "Flood" story. If the only humans alive after the flood were Noah and his family they had to have inbred and thus all humans on the planet would have similar familial physical characteristics. All humans don't and there would not be different races of humans. I have found no logical explanation for this in the bible.
Well genetic diversity is nothing new for example dogs no evolution here because all genes exist just in different combos another example is a moth that turned blue when environment changed first believed to be evolution but later scientists confirmed gene had always existed in species
@@hadescerberus8322 evolution is defined as change in allele frequencies over time. Moth example is evolution because the frequency of the color alleles changed with time (and in this case environment). I think you mean that it's not a mutation that occurred.
@@JKDROB I don't believe they meant "language can achieve correct answers". I think they mean "with sufficient understanding of language, any concept may be communicated from one individual to another".
That's a great example of how a random occurrence of a pattern that is meaningful to one individual can fuck with their mind, even leading to thoughts of woo.
6:35 Jake: CA: I Saw God on DMT and It’s Real to Me
21:10 David: CA: Skepticism, The Limitations of Logic, Evidence
27:45 David: CA: The Gospels Are Political Propaganda and I Know Who Wrote Them
38:35 Kevin: CA: I Choose My Beliefs, The Afterlife, Faith
1:09:15 James: NC: The Efficacy of Intuition
1:22:10 Daniel: CA: Modern Science Proves the Biblical Flood, Dinosaurs Died in Flood
1:32:30 Eloise: IA: Coming Out LGBT and Atheist to Religious Family, Mental Health Tips
1:52:22 Matt: SC: Darwin Was a Racist, Why Listen to Him?, Matt is a Modern Day Pharisee
Thanks for this, very helpful
You should always do this
Yeah this is very helpful if don't manage to watch it all at once, you should really do it every time! Cheers
dankie
On Darwin. I'm being an armchair quarterback here, but explain it like you're explaining it to a moron or a 5 year old. Never detailed explanations in those cases. When you're long winded and detailed the not so smart will stop listening. Keep explanations very short in those cases.
When I lost my faith I felt like I lost everything. The phrase "without you I am nothing." Was one of my biggest convictions, when I lost faith I felt like I my life was closing in on itself. I was Sunday school teacher, Christian Youth Leader and a Christian camp counselor, my entire identity was within the Christian Doctrine. I was lost for years with the belief that everything is meaningless.
Today I don't feel that way, I've found life with meaning outside of faith and I'm glad with it.
Riley McElroy Can I ask a serious question? As a Sunday school teacher, Youth leader..did you ever wonder if telling children that God did exist, the Bible was correct, etc., was potentially hurting them rather than letting someone come to that decision, or not, on their own?
I ask because my own upbringing was “find what works for you” so I went to a few friends’ churches and Sunday schools, and a few were the “fire and brimstone” sort of lecture/teaching and they scared the crap (and belief) outta me right then and there! I couldn’t equate a loving God with punishing me forever simply for having doubts, or questioning His existence.
Anyway, I hope you’re having a great day/night whenever and wherever you’re reading this.
@@AC-gb7do At the time I was a teacher, that thought never crossed my mind. At the time I believed I was doing the Lord's work and doing good by the children I taught.
Today I hold conflicting veiws on that subject, part of thinks I could of done harm to the Children, but what I taught was mostly tolerance and love to fellow man and anti-bullying from a biblical perspective for the most part, so if what stuck with them was that they should treat others with kindness then I am great ful to be of service in that aspect, but if they grew up to be bigoted Christians then I do feel I have a part in that as well. My hope is that along the way the do make their own decisions and formulate their own beliefs whichever way they decide if it comes from their heart and mind I am ok with that.
Riley McElroy Thank you for that, I wasn’t sure if my question would have offended you, I do appreciate the reply.
Life IS meaningless as far as the universe is concenred - you just have to create your own meaning and purpose for yourself
If I were you, I would stop saying "I lost my faith." That makes it sound valuable, like I lost my keys, or I lost my money in the stock market, or I lost my true love. All you lost was a delusion--nice going, congratulations.
It also makes it sound like some unfortunate event happened to you, like you got cancer or something, when in reality you gained one of the best things a human can achieve: intellectual autonomy.
It sounds like you experienced something akin to mourning, and I can relate to that. It's normal when you have to reframe your entire world view. But as you now know, it gets better, and potentially it gets FAR better than it was.
Thanks for getting directly to the calls, I hope this will be a regular thing.
Not if Don"25 minutes in" Baker has anything to say about it.
@@bradchervel5202 I have a problem with Don's "Failures of Christianity" rants. Sometimes he comes up with some valuable comments but most of the time he is stating the bleeding obvious.
@@kayb9979 I agree but I think what we think of as obvious is not obvious to most people/theists.
@@kayb9979 I mean this show is f-ing 20 years old, it doesnt need classroom time. I love Don, but seriously it's gonna end....Christianity done failed already.
@Austin Mark I don't like Don's small intros either and generally, he's just an annoyance when Matt's in a discussion. However, I think Don is really great when it comes to giving ppl. emotional support and reading ppl. Matt can often come off as almost autistic when it comes to things that are are not about debate and reasoning. And Matt doesn't seem to be able to read callers intellectual capacity, so he often have discussions that are clearly beyond the comprehension (he uses words, phrases that the caller that is obvious the caller don't have any clue about).
They should clone Matt so that we could have the show co-hosted by Matt Dillahunty with host Matt Dillahunty. And they do the good Matt bad Matt routine, alternating roles between each call.
There's a "good matt" in the good matt/bad matt paradigm? 😂
Joe Mullin
What would be the problem with that idea?
Matt and Jenna: my favourite team.
@@larjkok1184
A clone would not be the age of the person being cloned. The fertilized ovum would have to be implanted into a surrogate, be born, then grow up. It would be a different person, because is experiences would be different.
All the callers can be Matt too. We can watch him arguing and hang up on himself.
Matt is like a fine wine. He has honed his skills to perfection as he has aged. He is looking healthy and I just hope he keeps fronting TAE. I will only watch TAE now with Matt, especially since the others have left. I live in the UK and this is my weekly fix!
Am i missing something ? Have the others left? I havent been able to see every segment of every recent show...
@@chphelmond8563 Tracie and Jen left. Phil left.
Matt’s the best anyway.
@@MisterMcKinney Agreed.
@@MisterMcKinney you should check some highlighted episodes if you look for russell glasser, he is so ironic and funny, annoys the shit out of some pedantic callers. But yeah, Matt is the best.
Summing up caller 1. “I saw god. Yes I was on a mind altering drug.” Moving on.....
Pretty effective method of undermining anything one is going to follow that up with. :)
“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.”
- Terence McKenna
The power of God can save everyone even impossible from your brain but God can make it possible.
@Chiafade now, I am really sorry brother about my English, I am not good in English, I just try to write something to makes clear to understand the Truth about Jesus the Living God. God bless you.
I would be completely bummed out if I took a psychedelic and all I met was the god of the bible! What a douchebag.
So glad second caller Arrogant McSmugface got hung up on, he was clearly one of those people who just called in to read his poorly worded script and would not get off of it for any reason.
Matt HAD to give the answers he was expecting or his script would not work, so when Matt disagreed with him he just had to call Matt a liar, even when the subject was what was going on in Matt's own head.
Yeah, he should just have pretended he didn't hear Matt giving the wrong answer and droned on, like most do.
Lol, Arrogant McSmugface, good one! 😂 I also thought the last caller from South Carolina, just forgot his name, was EXTREMELY arrogant.
"he didn't hear Matt giving the wrong answer and droned on, like most do" - iirc, he even tried to several times...
It sometimes feels like that: they have a script in front of them, and they need to go through it, line by line, and ignore ALL the questions that are being asked, just continue with their script !!
Matt: I don't know.
David: Yes you do.
Matt: Well okay, goodbye.
David: :o
Actually at 22:33 Matt does the give the criteria for evidence as needing to be "sufficient." He states that he can believe anything provided there is sufficient evidence. He states this and then promptly forgets that he did so in favor of having no criteria whatsoever. Im sorry, its right there at 22:33, so Matt's kinda full of it on this one.
@@PhilipBji matt states that the magic sky daddy should know what is sufficient so the caller is the one whos full of it!
@@unit0033 Sorry, but at the very beginning, the caller explicitly stated that he was not interested in immediately arguing for God's existence. Very clearly stated. But, Matt decided that the caller was too "arrogant," felt he was being called a "liar," hangs up and spends another minute attacking a straw-man. Whats impressive about that? Would not even allow a single premise to be stated. Matt sabotaged the discussion by assuming some kind of personal offense had taken place, and then used it as justification for hanging up, probably because he didn't want to think about what the callers argument might have been.
Omg I wanted this call to go longer because David was about to prove the existence of God....jk..
@@PhilipBji the caller was implying Matt was lying, thats clear to everyone but you apparently. The caller was making assertions such as suggesting Matt did know what evidence would be required when he clearlt stated he did not know. Maybe the caller should have a long think about his argument then phone back.
I love Matt D's silver tongue. He can articulate things in a way that most accurate representation of how I often feel, yet can't articulate as well as he does. I literally had multiple theist try and tell me what I think or believe this week. Thanks Matt, I wouldn't know how to represent myself and my feelings as well without you.
Kevin/“Daniel” was a great caller. He was actually willing to have a discussion and hear Matt out. He was also a good sport about being misnamed. Matt went off on a few tangents, which were informative, and Kevin was a good listener.
I agree. He listened. He aknowledged errors. He honestly conveyed what he thinks. What more can you ask?
@@colaboytje for most people...that alone are traits worth some respect... i wonder where he is now in life hmm.... perhaps it started some growing for him so to speak.
I love all the new faces. This guy Denis is pretty good. I hope he sticks around and makes his presence known on the ACA network.
You should check out the Non-Prophets podcast.
He isnt new. He actually has been a part of the community for years now.
Whomever the guest, please get Matt to stop owning 90% of the show. Why have guests at all?
Don’t call it a come back. He’s been here for years.
@@nigelwakita3415 Lets hope he doesn't knock too many people out.
I can feel my brain cells dying one by one as I listen to some of these callers.
Matthew from South Carolina is way out of his depth. He can only see all logic and epistemology through the Biblical lens but not even his own analysis of the Bible, just what he has been told to believe. He does a good job parroting what his preacher has taught him about the Pharisees denying Jesus's (supposed) divinity. But he doesn't understand the Pharisees, what an atheist is, or anything about formal logic or epistemology. "You know what I said was true". There really is no response to that except to hang up. It is dishonest debate. Telling the other person what they know or what they believe is both arrogant and stupid.
The arrogance, ignorance and lack of intellectual honestly and humility of theists is truly staggering and is getting really old.
THANK YOU AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
“That’s just like your opinion man”. Matt goes Lebowski on Jake while talking drugs. Classic moment....the Dude abides!
I picked up on the same thing! The dude abides. :D
Lol me as well
A couple of callers sure gave Matt good reason to fly off the handle. Trying to tell someone they know what you think they believe is a big mistake, especially with Matt.
yeah because it's offensive af.
@@brucewayne7875
And it kills any point they tried to make.
@Woody Rooper That's because we are superior beings that are more in touch with our emotions.
@Joe Horn so are you. So congrats I guess
So we have a valid OP that telling other people you know what they think better than they do is a surefire end to a discussion, but some of you went straight for insults? Where does that get you?
First caller said he is limited by the English language. It's clear he is limited by more than the English language as are the other theist callers.
rick dees,
Has anyone figured out your username was a very popular LA dj in the 80s?
@@todbeard8118 Nope, you're the only crazy ;)
@@ProgrammerGamer1
Google Rick Dees and tell me what you find.
@THE PEOPLE SING I don't wish I could be as gullible and stupid as theists ;-)
THE PEOPLE SING, the troll who can't prove god exists.
While I miss tracy and Jen, I fucking love seeing so much Matt.
@xamaza any mention of that? The exodus?
@@pinball1970 dunno not done watching, I was just thinking out loud, cause im a matt fanboi
Why did they go? What did I miss?
@@kadene2 a guy claimed that some trans athletes have an advantage in some sports, Jen, Tracy, and a few people on the show wanted to label him, and anyone who held that belief as a transphobic bigot, when the ACA did not adopt that as an official position they, completely guided by emotion, lost their temper and left.
@Truthus Maximus that's the very condensed version but yes.
the longer version is that rationality rules came on to the show and was a guest and some people pointed out that his video about trans athletes contained some mistakes, he told the people at the ACA he was going to correct the mistakes and has since done so, but before he could do so the ACA denounced him and essentially accused him of being transphobic. the entire community reacted very negatively to this because it seemed very untrue, that particular episode of The atheist experience in which the then-president did not retract the statement and tried to brush it off had over 1,000 downvotes, much of the cast, Matt not included, we're happy to label all such people as transphobic bigots, the next time Matt appeared on the show he made it clear he was very unhappy with the way the ACA handled things, when the aca retracted their condemnation of rationality rules it seems that many people involved in the show said "you must condemn him or we are gone", logic prevailed, the aca did not condemn 99.999% of the population of being transphobic bigots, and some of the cast left.
Since then that president has been replaced by Matt.
when rationality rules responded with a video to the nonsense that the ACA was blathering Matt actually posted a link to his video saying "agreed"
I often wonder what Matt would have been like as a fully fledged preacher... a shiver runs down my spine... 😁
Oh my gosh. What an incredible and terrifying thought experiment.
If he'd still valued pursuit of the truth, facts and the application of logic he wouldn't have remained a preacher for long. They practice the art of deception, prevarication and obfuscation of the truth.
I miss those that recently left, though I am very much enjoying bringing in new and less known co-hosts. I would LOVE to have Jenn , John , and Tracy back but this is still very enjoyable.
the skin color is an adaptive difference driven by 2 different requirements, more melanin in the skin prevent excessive damage by UV rays that may lead to cancer in high solar radiation countries , less melanin allows enough UV ray to penetrate the skin to synthesize vitamin D in low solar radiation countries
Vitamin D is needed for bone growth, so the shade of the skincolor changes with the age, it's lighter, when you're younger, to allow for better growth and get's darker with age. That is, if you are in a constant environment. Drastically changing that will slowly change your skincolor. And if you get your Vitamin D from somewhere else, like fish, your skincolor is not under selective pressure anymore, as seen in the Eskimo population.
Lol the second caller😂 and the way Matt hung up
"Okay, goodbye."
It was clear within a few minutes that both Davids from CA are people who always think they are the smartest person in the room (maybe they were overcome with this delusion after getting an A+ in their philosophy and rhetoric courses?). Who was it that said, "If you're the smartest person in the room, invite smarter people to your room, or realize that you are in the wrong room"? Maybe it was Uncle Jed.
Kevin: "the afterlife is the space in between the balls"
Thanks for putting in place measures to bring the conversation back on the rails when it goes off the rails.
I think we choose what we believe when there is a need to believe in something. I was raised in the mormom church and as far as I can tell I never believed in it. I stopped going to church when I was 16, and believing that I needed some sort of God in my life I turned to Druidry. I liked the gods and goddesses but the community was scarce and really just a bunch of hippies, I combined Druidry with Wicca and possibly some other spiritualities to get what I felt I needed. So, about 10 years ago I was introduced to the Norse Pantheon dropped my old beliefs and completely adopted the Norse beliefs. I like the Gods and Goddesses and the stories. So I can say I chose those beliefs.
Very recently, I started listening to Mr Atheist, Matt Dillahunty, and many others and have finally realized I didn't actually need a god, that even though I liked the Norse pantheon there was no reason to believe they existed.
Thank you Matt for helping me drop that nonsense, it's been too much of a distraction for so long.
"The imperfections, is where we find beauty" - Matt Dillahunty
1:18:10
The notion of a forever conscience scares me. Whether we live forever happy and fulfilled in heaven, or miserable and deprived in hell, we need a break from this mysterious thing we call conscience
Oh, Jake please. I experience weird shit in my dreams (altered brain states) nearly every week. Christ, I've even played pool with Elvis - I won by the way.
John Newton,
You beat Elvis in pool? Nah ..Maybe bowling..lol
Lol
He was probably on coke. Just give him another chance.
@@todbeard8118 lol! Are you saying I dreamt it ?!!!
@@royalrejects We were both doing lines at the time. Lol.
Darwin wasn't a racist. He was incredibly progressive for his time. By "races" he meant "animal species", not human ethnicities. The definitions, connotations, and implications of words have changed.
And hypothetically speaking even if he was that wouldn't change the evidence that he's found. People seem to think that we worship darwin. If the guy who discovered the germ theory of disease had been a murderer, would that have any effect on the germ theory of disease? Of course not. There was a whole lot of stuff that Darwin got wrong he's not the end all be all of evolution he's the tip of the iceberg. And these people seem to think that even if he was racist that that has anything to do with our position on evolution and it doesn't. I agree with you that he wasn't racist I'm just saying it baffles my mind why people would think that would matter anyway. Even if he was racist then we could say hey evolution is true the evidence he found was groundbreaking and has led us in the direction we are going today, but he's a fucking piece of shit.
@@thickerconstrictor9037 True. I mean, we do exactly this with a bunch of stuff the Nazis discovered/made. Nazis and other horrible people found out things about biology and psychology through horribly unethical means and we condemn them for it, but we still make use of the discoveries in order to help people today.
He was talking about lettuce, anyway
The Captain Hindsight comment made my day, love South Park
I happen to know Mattew's nickname is "SittinThere" He's called before, and was hung up on. when he gets angry, he gets hyper-focused on where everyone in the convo is sitting...
"So are you gonna sit there and expect me to sit here and tell me where ill be sittin? Cuz, buddy - I aint about ta sit here an listen" Ladies and Gentlemen, Mathew SittinThere
:D
53:25 A magical hand just brought Matt a Coke Zero. It knew Matt wanted a coke, so it must be able to read his mind.
*Praised be The Hand, bringer of drinks, quencher of thirsts*
The Father, Son and Holy Coke.
Matt and Denis, your explanation of the difference between Darwin's theory and the Bible was magnificent!
"Collision between the milky way galaxy and one of its satellites"
You are about 4 billion years early
DMT has been called the spirit molecule, and it has been found in very low doses in the pinneal gland. It seems to be tied to dreaming or unconscious awareness in humans. Could you just as accurately say, "I dreamed about God, so he's real!"
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frie jemi
I had a dream about going to sleep and dreaming of using DMT and then meeting a sleeping God that was dreaming of humans. Therefore humans are real.....
@@VestigialHead me too
Wouldn't it be a hoot if there really is a god and Jake is the guy who figured it out?
Kevin: “I feel like a lot of people call in and they’re not totally honest.”
Yeah, that’s an understatement.😂
What? There is a dinosaur in my garage! Well, he's invisible. That's why my cat won't go out there. Well, she wants to, but I won't let her because of the dinosaur in my garage. He's very old. I think Jesus rode him into Jerusalem. I think one of my facts may be wrong, That makes my other facts correct!
@Edmond Dantes So that is why there was a dinosaur in my garage!!
I had to spend money on 2 brontoburgers, for some reason he would not accept the deal with only one.
I dont know where he moved though.
It was a DRAGON in the garage.
A dinosaur? That was 65 million years ago! At least do the Dark Ages.
I love these guys who are just absolutely certain that they have discovered something brand new in a book that has been dissected for 1000s of years. And all in their spare time.
Oh dear! "Favoured races" means "favoured species" - "races" was not used in the 1850s in the way it is now. The Origin of Species says nothing about humans at all - The Decent of Man does. Please get this right.
Actually, I think at the time, races of humans meant SUB-species. Darwin classified them based on things like skin color. He was wrong. Big deal. He didn't know about melanin or DNA back then. He still got the process of natural selection correct. His theory of evolution has been slightly modified over the past 150 years as science has progressed. What does it matter if he was for or against various races as being superior? That wasn't the crux of his theory of evolution. Newton believed in alchemy and angels, but does that make his theory of gravity magical and angelic?
@@glenhill9884 Darwin actually rejected the idea that humans are any more than one race.
Benjamin Nowack Ikr, Matt was quick to denounce Darwin as racist (not even bothering to bring up that Darwin used the word race the way we would use subspecies or breed today) which maybe so by today’s standards but back then it was actually offensive to polite English society how not racist he was
@@andyrihn1 You're right. 'Race' meant little more than 'type'. In fact Darwin was pretty well alone in pointing out that humans are al the same species (in The Descent of Man).
@@glenhill9884 No. The Origin of Species is not about humans. Not at all. "Race' meant little more than 'type'.
My brother was, and pretty much is, a bully. When I was 11 and he was 17 he convinced me that it would be a good idea to take a shit ton of LSD. Into the trip he made me think that, not only he, but all of my family was possessed by demons. This was his idea of a good time. For months afterwards I wouldn't even want to be alone with a family members. To me, they looked like they were, poorly, acting as if they were who they were.
I'm not sure exactly why I'm sharing this story (aside from being a serial commenter) except from, no, it turned out my family wasn't possessed and that even when we're on powerful drugs our pattern seeking, flawed, mammalian brain, make mistakes. I only wish I could relive this experience with an adult mind but every time after that when someone had some "acid" it was fake.
And speaking of drugs: Kevin. Stop drunk dialing.
I'm sorry about your asshole brother. Especially tough to deal with assholes when they're your family.
whats your icon a picture of?
@@spaceisalie5451 Asking me or Doapsique?
@@BUGHUNTER6 Originally doapsique but now u too lol
@@spaceisalie5451 Oh gotcha lol, it's an artwork based on the Alien movie
Really wanted to listen to Matt go further with caller #2. I love what Matt does, but sometines he cuts the conversations short that have the potential to be the most entertaining.
Matt just gets better and better..
Believin in an afterlife IS a dangerous belief.
Because if you lose someone really important to you and find yourself in such a deep depression because of it, that the chemical reactions in your brain get messed up, you might find yourself in the mindset that you can reconnect with your loved ones if you die. And can make you take that final step and commit suicide.
I remember in one of the older episodes of the show, I think it was one with Tracie(don't remember who she hosted with), they talked about a story( I guess someone shared in an email to the show) about a little girl that couldn't handle her father's death and commited suicide "to be with her daddy" as she wrote in her suicide note. I still to this day think about this story. I myself even while getting out of religion held to the belief that there was an afterlife. And I thought it was a good harmless belief, but after that story, I am convinced that it is probably one of the most harmful beliefs because it devalues life right here and now
Einsame M I think about the story of that little girl all the time as well. It’s one of the first things I bring up when people say that religion isn’t harmful. I wish that little girl was still alive. Her mother also said “if it wasn’t for my son, I don’t think I could handle the pain either” or something along those lines. It’s heartbreaking. I also bring up all of the children who are dead because their parents refused to take them to a doctor and instead took them to a preacher to pray for the child when they were deathly ill or not deathly ill that turned into death. It’s awful.
I remember that story. Sad thing is, it does happen more often with people and kids.
Re: the oldest living tree - the oldest Quaking Aspen grove is 80,000 years old. That's eighty thousand. It is known as Pando. Apparently it missed the flood, along with the state of Utah, which is where it is located.
Jake should probably stay way from drugs, period. They're not doing him any favors.
His mind is fried. He probably been taking that shit for to long.
Ehh. I've taken psychadelics and I can see where he's coming from. He sounds fine, he needs to better understand skepticism is all
I am amazed by the logic used to advocate for using drugs to determine supernatural existence. If you want to truly be sure your mind is not playing a trick on you you should not use drugs. It is like pouring water into your computer and then be amazed by the strange behavior your computer show. Yes, it sure can be fun but it is not a reliable path to find what is true. Amazed!
@@dragonfly0812 everything u do is a mind altering experience
I don't need artificial stimulation to excite me... my mind is already weird as it is in it's natural state... vut I see your point Pump 😁
The equivalent would be "overclocking" some component already present since DMT is present in natural brain chemistry.
People who take drugs like DMT and think they've shown them the truth of reality, need to show how they're in any more of a sound state of mind than a drunkard high on alcohol is who believes that they've solved the mysteries of life by chatting in a bar with their drinking buddies at 3AM.
They can't show the difference, because it's analogous in too many ways, it's about people taking mind-altering drugs that warp how they think and feel in ways they can't control with buggy results, and warping how you think in one session doesn't make you smarter or see anything more clearly, only brute education and endless years of feedback on all our failed attempts at reason can help chip away at those problems in our thinking.
Not to mention, taking a drug that has a huge emotional impact regardless of content, is bound to appeal to our sunk cost fallacious investment architecture we come pre-equipped with, and tilt our bias to be favourable toward whatever we associate with that emotional experience, the more emotionally heavy the more risk of bias.
There's a reason we have disinterested third parties to verify, fact check, examine evidence. Police officers who get involved jeopardise cases with their investment bias, scientists who get too involved over years or take money become more distrusted, personal experience clouds our judgement.
@@CosmicEpiphany Sure, overclocking works to a degree but if you do too much you will be faced with the blue screen of death. You will also affect the longevity of the component of your computer.
Jake:' ...and I saw God...'
Matt:' Were drugs involved?'
Slam dunk :p
I like how Matt was patient with Kevin....probably gave him quite a lot of things to mull over
A person in the top chat replay said dinosaur bones found elastic proteins roughly 5,000 years old. First of all, dinosaurs bones didn't find anything. I guess the person meant people found the proteins. No non-avian dinosaur proteins were found under about 65 million years old. That can be dismissed without even checking it. If any were, it would be all over the news as maybe the biggest story ever.
51:28 that split brain patient case is so interesting. It blew my mind when I first heard of it and altered the way I think about consciousness.
People should know about this, because it debunks so many strange believes and ideas people have.
As an art person I really liked the call with James.
Bring back, Jeff Dee. love his hell rants.
I've always wondered where he went off to. And he did have some of the best rants to listen to.
The best moment of the entire show is Matt and Jeff in unisence: YOU'RE A SOLIPSIST???
@@UngoogleableMan They work well together.
DMT and salvinorum (Salvia extract) are both interesting psychedelics. Both VERY powerful and both mind-blowing. However, they can be a bit too much for wanna-be psychedelic warriors. Neither open any gateway to another dimension. I've used both hundreds of times over decades (along with STP, LSD, psilocybin, even belladonna) and if anything, my experiences strengthened my skepticism of the supernatural. The chemistry of the mind is fascinating and altering it can seemingly tear reality and the ego structure apart. One must be precise in their retrospective analysis of all their psychedelic experiences and not allow the brain to configure a false narrative (i.e. I smoked DMT and went to another dimension).
Tyler Kasuboski I have to admit, I’d be very hesitant to try psychedelics. But then again, my alcohol tolerance is crappy. 😁
TheRealMrMcCoy Never mind.
Sally D is a beautiful, yet harsh mistress.
@@zaodedong9935 Too much for me. Alcohol only now
I have used salvia 80x many times, and it certainly produced strong feelings of "oneness" or some sort of time-space breakdown in the trip, but never did I think it was some sort of profound revelation, because we have an understanding of how drugs effect the brain. Furthermore it should be expected that humans, who are animals with similar brains, would experience similar effects when the same drug is given. That is how depression medicine works.
'If you think you are holding a harmless belief, you may want to re-examine that.'
I'm gonna put that on a T-shirt because I LOVE hammering people with understatements.
I've seen something that can only be described as "god" under the influence of psilocybin, yet i still don't beleave it was actually god - what i am convinced of is that hallucinogens are awesome fun.
Matt is so spot on it’s ridiculous.
Jake from California - atheist here, done DMT, if they dont have a breakout experience, they cant understand what you saw. I did, I understand and it wasnt god. Its you.
The elves are cool, but they offer you no knowledge or truth.
Immediately thought of the South Park episode about cat pee: “Yeah, and you never get to see the chick’s boobs anyway”
That's just like your opinion, man.
Aww Jake: "thanks for talking to me"
He seems like a good kid, I hope he's doing okay.
There's a good story about that from Paul McCartney, about how he when he first tried Marijuana (that he got from Bob Dylan), gave a paper to his roadie telling him to keep it, because it contained the secret of the universe. The day after, since he was no longer high, he no longer knew what the secret was, but he got the paper back from the roadie.
The paper said "There are seven levels".
He must have missed something then, because there should be 6 of something else to multiply that with, in order to arrive at the answer 42, the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. Of course, then there's still the matter of working out what the question is.
@@0okamino Well, 6 is swedish is spelled "sex", so clearly it's seven sex levels. That certainly sounds like the secret of the universe to me.
That may bring a new meaning to being "on the level" with someone. ;)
I grew up on the games of Origin and Ultima and Denis' fantastic artwork, so this was a joy to watch.
Small world. James from NC was my first art professor 31 years ago. Great professor, human being, and friend.
Dennis!! I haven’t listened to the Non Prophets much lately but I miss your epic intros. The opening argument for the Free Will debate is one I still quote from time to time.
I've done DMT. I'm still an atheist. All it showed me was how easy it is to be mistaken.
Daniel: Flood happens and kills dinos 9k years ago.
His evidence: protein found in dino bone...which, he said, lasts max 5k years.
Its a hell of a lot easier to reason with children than it is to reason with idiots online
Please don't insult those children.
;-)
"Let's take a whole bunch of really bad ideas and disguise them, that's what preaching is." What a brilliant definition. 👏
Umm... I cant help my self, it is a non prophet organization!
The Non-Prophets...is a spinoff podcast by ACA. Or ACA folks. and it started about 18 years ago.
Yes! Please do more talks about souls. I have such a hard time expressing my view to my "spiritual" friends who believe in past lives and that stuff.
The Hangup Experience! lol
Oldest living thing is “The Pando,” a stand of quaking aspens in Fishlake National Forest in Utah, which is estimated to be 80,000 years old.
I like to explore the possibilities of different dimensions and entities that exist beyond our perception... but I don't see how someone could set a definite outline of any of it actually existing. I've tripped before and experienced somewhat of what the first person is pointing out, and the whole thing about tasting colors and seeing sounds but to say it's all real (even though it all felt more than real) is a pretty big leap.
@Warstar And i'm one of those people. It freaked me out and made me panic lol, but in hindsight it was an experience. Don't know if i'd want to experience that again though
Love the time stamps!
“It seems preposterous that the preposterous things I saw on drugs aren’t real.” Suuure.
I appreciate Matt's rant about children. As a parent, I'm intelligent enough to know that my child doesn't have the same reasoning tools, and it's not their fault. I give them discipline without punishing them for things beyond their understanding. It's possible that some adults are still thinking like a child when they try to explain the Supernatural.
And a Hindu might see Vishnu, not Jesus; a Buddhist might have a conversation with The Buddha. What does that say about seeing 'a god' on hallucinogenic drugs?
they schizophrenic
You are quite incorrect, in the case of DMT which is also the active ingredient in ayhauasca and other shamanistic medicines that have been around before people had written history. People do not see their specific indoctrinated "gods".... These journeys are incredibly similar in what people say they have seen and "Who" or "what" they came into contact with. I have listened to many stories and have yet to hear one person mention Jesus or Buddha..etc.
Does anyone else wait until the show is over to watch it so you can watch it on 1.5x speed? I can’t watch anything at normal speed anymore it makes me so mad lol. This was a great show today!
You are gorgeous!
Counterpoint to "Belief is a choice" - For the sake of argument, let's assume I can read your mind and confirm your sincerity. I tell you "I will give you one million dollars to believe in unicorns." Again, we will assume I actually can and will pay this. You now have a very strong incentive to believe this. Better yet, there is no down side - nothing to lose and much to gain. Despite all this, you are unable to just (CLICK) turn on this belief. Your being convinced or not convinced is a natural state you find yourself in regardless of incentives or desire. You cannot will yourself to be immediately and genuinely convinced. Of course, human imagination being what it is, with time and effort, you may be able to convince yourself. In other words self dillusion is a thing - but it is somehow a process, not an instantaneous act of will.
That's the thing. Sometimes it's difficult to drill down to what someone REALLY believes because the mind is a powerful and still very unknown thing. People can self-delude, including distract themselves if to avoid confronting whether they believe something. It says something when people pay therapists to help them understand their own minds.
Nice to have Denis on the show. Would have loved him to jump in even more on the can you choose your belief issue. Denis has had that shit right from years back if you go back and listen to the free will discussion with Matt, Denis and Jeff. Always love Matt on AE too. Nice to have him on more often. Still miss Tracie.
Am I the only one who thinks the hosts need to read up on (or talk to Aronra) Darwin and his "racism". The guy was hugely progressive for his time.
Matt and Aron are long-time friends. Almost as long as Matt's been hosting. Aran has been on axp a few times. Isn't the Unholy Trinity Matt, Aron, and Seth? (did several speaking tours)
Jake: What's more preposterous that there are extra-dimensional entities or that you hallucinated? 🤣
David was wrong when he thought Philo had something to do with the writing of Mark. Philo wrote extensively about Pontius Pilate but never mentioned Jesus in his writings. Imagine the word became incarnate during Philo's lifetime and he was oblivious to it.
Yes, Philo of Alexandria is commonly cited as not having mentioned Jesus in all his writings even though he lived in the same time and traveled the same places.
I really love the song in the beginning
In that case, if you haven't seen it, you should check out episode 23.07 of _The Atheist Experience._ I think you may enjoy it. :)
I am interested in the idea that people believe that there is an afterlife. How long do they think they will be there? Eternity? Because that is a long time, and no matter how wonderful it might be there, the novelty will pall after the first few aeons.
When you swat a fly, the fly’s conscious goes black-the end.
The same fate awaits us.
Yea i always find it weird people cant accept that death is just nothingness, you have been nothing for billions of years before you were born yet you cant imagine it afterdeath
I like it when the Director and or Tech Director responds quickly and well to Matt or any of the hosts.
I hate it when the Chyron (computer text generator) tech misspells and lets it go through the entire conversation.
Calls start at 6:26
Super glad to see Denis Loubet again, he's very well spoken and he'd make an amazing full-time host *nudge*nudge*
Kevin u r hoping for something to be true and u sound like u realize there is no demonstrable reason... and if u really realize it at that point there is no reason to accept it before u have good evidence
Seriously, the milky way galaxy and another galaxy collide???? You have no clue. A galactic collision isn't "an event". It is a process that takes hundreds of million years if not longer. The milky way galaxy would be a mess right now still.
Even if you sped it up and the centers collided, it would still be way longer than 9,000 years ago.
I knew Matthew was going to say something stupid at the end.
Hahaha- as expected. Yes.
I am still litening to his call, when did Matthew not say anything stupid? His entire call was bullshit from start to finish...
Matt is the only person ive heard that can make the word "fucking" sound like an intelligent one.
Matt, sometimes the look on your face while someone launches into saying the thing you just told them they were trying to say...it's worth the price of admission.
Excellent show
In reference to Daniel from California and his Noah "Flood" story. If the only humans alive after the flood were Noah and his family they had to have inbred and thus all humans on the planet would have similar familial physical characteristics. All humans don't and there would not be different races of humans. I have found no logical explanation for this in the bible.
Well genetic diversity is nothing new for example dogs no evolution here because all genes exist just in different combos another example is a moth that turned blue when environment changed first believed to be evolution but later scientists confirmed gene had always existed in species
Herbert Green No logic in the bible? Really?
Herbert Green it’s also amazing the lack of omniscience God shows in the Bible.
@@AC-gb7do omniscience does not mean he can't act deliberately
@@hadescerberus8322 evolution is defined as change in allele frequencies over time. Moth example is evolution because the frequency of the color alleles changed with time (and in this case environment). I think you mean that it's not a mutation that occurred.
The Captain Hindsight reference!😂😂😂😂😂
The English language can explain any thing, you just have to master it.
No it cannot. If you think it can, you have little imagination.
@@JKDROB
I don't believe they meant "language can achieve correct answers".
I think they mean "with sufficient understanding of language, any concept may be communicated from one individual to another".
That 80,000 year old Aspen colony called Pando is about 2 miles from my cabin.😊
My name is Jake and I also live in California, for a moment there I was mindfucked
Where abouts??
That's a great example of how a random occurrence of a pattern that is meaningful to one individual can fuck with their mind, even leading to thoughts of woo.
You were on DMT and had an experience.
Casey Lee Anaheim
Maybe a god did it lol
First David really went out the way to appear as an intellectual.