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Even if we ignore the difference in size (and what that represents in dollar figure), the cost to get 70hp reliably, upgraded transmission, the adaptive suspension, the added features such as HUD heated and Cooled seats, it would cost more than 10k. But this comparison really shows how far the Civic has evolved. Its basically a small luxury car now.
crazy thing is in the real world it isn't a 10k difference heck civics are marked up so much it might not even be a 5k difference especially if you go for the often time's cheaper 2.0 sport.
@@GoldenNada sadly that is absolutely the truth. I was just talking to my best friend a few hours ago about the civic markups in Miami Florida being $8,000-$12,000 depending on trim and people are still lining up to pay it and drive away.
@@2004cyrus I thought the Type R with the $18,000 markup was the worse, but the $12,000 for a regular Civic beats it by far! These damn car prices are so ridiculous and people and still paying it, and then they are wondering why they are all broke AF.
@@SI0AX yes I took photos of the crazy ass window stickers and sent them to friends and family who said I doubt the markups are that high. They all got mad and said that some bull sh*t! And I believe the government, Biden and them, they are going to let gas prices double and make us Marxist. They want us to be broke so we will be dependent upon their small handouts and corporations can get richer and give them kickbacks.
Unfortunately the real prices out there probably won't allow for that. My cousin was getting a civic sport I believe with the 2.0 base engine and it was 28k lol.
I love how you guys are being creative and differentiating from other car review youtubers. Also 13:00 crazy edits! Absolutely dig the new videos and cinematography, it's pure entertainment.
@@lucienl9465 I got a 2008 8th gen civic, and the paint is super thin I think. I was told they had paint issues back than so the service man said they dont near the issues as back than. The drivetrain will last longer the body on my car.
For me it's still the Accord 2.0 hands down. It's factor based for anyone looking at these two. What can be afforded at the moment, how long does one plan to keep the car, and ones age. The first is self explanatory. You should only buy what you can actually afford. The second is a bit different. If I just need something to get me around for the next few years, I'm not going to drop a lot of money on it. If I plan to keep it a good while, I want the best I can get. Last, age is about transitional years. What I want in my teens and 20s will usually be different from my 30s and 40s. I could see more younger people going for the Civic, and middle aged to older people going for the Accord.
Well I'm in my 30s and my interests haven't changed much from my 20s but me personally I'll probably get the civic because it's still more affordable and it has improved a lot.. it's almost like a mini accord now so I'll buy it.. only thing I wished is that they had kept the coupe model that would of been my top choice honestly.
The Accord is in its fifth model year so a full redesign should be coming by the end of this year, if historical timelines stick in this pandemic. We should also see a new Camry this year since the current Camry went on sale six months before the current Accord in 2017.
@@a32tl Correct, and with that came wireless apple carplay which was a MUCH needed upgrade, and those amazing looking wheels that are unparalleled in any other sedan in it's class. Among other features of course and upgrades such as the fog lights and other things, but those 2 that I mentioned first being the biggest and most important in my book.
Yeah Accord is soon due for a refresh, Honda has given no info yet to dealers but because of covid you never know, it could be a 2023 or 2024 Accord. The 10th generation Civic Type-R came out 2017, the 10th generation Accord soon followed in 2018. Following that pattern plus covid it might not be until the 2024 model year, not 2023. Considering the Type-R has not even been revealed yet, it is coming for the 2023 model year though according to Honda
@@a32tl yeah I did. It definitely makes it a cooler car in my opinion to know that I can beat most cars at a light. The fuel economy leaves a little to be desired tho.
@@Justin_hsi I have a '20 Accord Touring 2.0T that I absolutely love. It is quick. As far as fuel economy, the majority of my driving is highway so I average well over 29 mpg.
Loved the review. I did this same comparison this past week and ended up buying the Accord. The ride feels more premium due to the bigger engine, 10 speed transmission, and compliance over bumps and rough patches probably because of the adaptive dampers and wheel base. The rear seat passengers get heated seats and climate vents while the Civic gives neither in the US. The Civic is a great not so little car though and is the better bang for your buck, especially the hatchback but the price difference is around $8k in the US when comparing both top trims and the hatch.
You liked the old touring wheels? Damn I've never seen anyone say that before, I cannot express how good the new ones are, they literally took what everyone loved, the 2017 Sport wheels, and made them better, these are my all time favorite Honda wheels, other than the Civic Type-R LE
@@NorthernLaw_ yes I think it made the new model what it is. Those wheels are awesome too just think they’re for the previous generation. I like the Audi like look they give this generation. But that’s just my eye, I wouldn’t not want them though.
I'm 6'4 and when I was hunting for cars I tried the 2016 civic it was way to cramped, but the 2013 accord I settled on was just right for what I needed.
Just bought a 2013 Civic myself as a 6'2" dude, it's certainly not a midsized car but it's cozy enough. The Accord from that year only has half an inch more for leg room, so the perception of less space in the Civic is just that...a perception 😛 Civics do more with less space, I think that's what puts them on top. But Accord is where the best performance is at, so that would also be a consideration if speed and high acceleration mattered to you over economy.
@@bernlin2000 dude, both of them aren’t fast and I don’t think it would be a difference driving any of those cars because you want really be racing them. I don’t really think people should compare performance in family cats
The biggest difference is in the engine design. I'd get the Civic if it weren't for the history of oil dilution issue for the .5L. That 2.0L is solid as a rock and that is more valuable than any Civic advantages combined.
@@pantherdxn4835 name an exciting/amazing/cutting edge product they currently make. A product that you compare to other cars in their respective classes that you truly want. I’ll wait. It’s disappointing, but the brand is totally lost.
@@diego04cr2 not sure why you're looking for "exciting/amazing/cutting edge" with an entry-level luxury brand that still undercuts its rivals on lower-priced trim levels. the rdx and mdx have great reviews and the integra is based on a solid si. the only good argument against acura really should be that the koreans are legit direct competitors that also offer solid value propositions, but their trade off for the added luxury/features is driving dynamics.
My grandpa, I call him Papo, has a that same color 2022 Honda Accord. His philosophy is that since he doesn’t have that much time left, he might as well get something nice. And damnit, it is NICE. Hands down the most luxurious car I’ve ever driven and been in
@@andrewn6384 Yeah I'm still confused, how are they different? I mean the designs are different but both the 9th and 10th gen accords have the taillights on the trunk
Loving that civic has a brand new design, but I wish it had a more aggressive/sporty look. Also I wish it had more features like cooling seats and a heated steering wheel, plus lumbar support would’ve been nice. Overall it seems like a great upgrade from my 2013 civic lx, I can’t wait
I'm really hoping Honda doesn't screw up the next gen Accord. If they go backwards in power or performance at all, I will be disappointed. The current Accord 2.0T is very quick but the new offerings from Kia/Hyundai are even a bit quicker. The next gen Accord should not lose any ground to its competitors in terms of performance.
I like how they said "it would be expensive to 'retrofit' adaptive suspension" when the previous gen Si had adaptive dual mode shocks... Works perfectly and hasn't needed to be replaced so... Honda did it right, and the car was still cheaper than the current model with more equipment.
I spend way too much of my free time watching automotive journalists talk about cars, and you two are one of my favorites for sure. I absolutely love watching your banter plus you're so knowledgeable. This "versus" style video is very impressive and must have taken some serious effort to edit together. At the end of the day I would not be caught dead driving a Civic or an Accord, but I would watch you both talking about them and anything else with four wheels any day. Please keep up the impeccable work.
@Rotchild I've been thinking the same, especially because I like the more modern 10th gen Civic/Insight design better than the 11th gen Civic, with the possible exception of the new Civic Hatch. Or even an Accord Hybrid. Just recently realized that Honda now makes an Accord "Sport," Hybrid for 2022 as well. I really like that too.
There is a way to completely turn off civic traction. I don’t know if you guys did this. When i first saw this i thought it wouldn't work but it does. Here it is: 1. Turn the car to one position. 2. Parking brake off. 3. Press and hold the brake pedal. 4. Turn traction control on and off. 5. Parking brake on. 6. Release the brake pedal. 7. Turn traction control on and off. 8. Press and hold the brake pedal. 9. Turn traction control on and off.
hey guys! thanks so much! i've been wanting this kind of comparison video for so long! it's a great format! would be so cool to see bmw 3 vs bmw 5, audi a4 vs a6 etc...
Watching the video, my eyes fell on the Accord much more often. Its larger size seems to balance all of the car's lines better than its little brother, the Civic. For me, it would be 100% the Accord 2.0T. Love that engine. If it were an Accord 1.5T, I might would consider the Civic Touring. To me, the Accord Touring 2.0T's price is justifiable.
@@yaruby3008 MSRP in the USA is right around $38k. I picked up my CPO '20 Accord Touring 2.0T a year ago with 7k miles on it for $30k. I was very fortunate to buy one right before used car prices went through the roof. I could sell it now for more than what I paid for it, even with more miles on it. However, I am not looking to do that. I love it and am eager to see what Honda will do with the '23 complete redesign of the Accord.
As an accord owner of a 2.4 natural aspirated I4, I can verify that the smaller engine option in the Accord sucks. Perhaps a bit les with the 1.5 turbo but if I did it again I’d definitely go with the bigger engine for sure
Great video, was really interested in the handling of both. Love that civic. I’ve driven a lot of sports cars, old and new, and my 2016 civic handling is unmatched. Best car ever
1-22-2023, 3:19AM, PST : My wife and I purchased a 2023 Honda Civic Sport 2.0L about 3 weeks ago. We R loving it. We had a 1998 Honda Accord in which we had for 24 years. The accord was totaled in an accident, so we replaced it with the new civic. We took very good care of the Accord up until this point. Hopefully, we'll get the same amount of time out of the new civic. I quite enjoyed the side-by-side comparison of these 2 Honda's. 🐢 😀 🐢 👍 🐢 🚘
Did the same comparison. Ended up getting the accord due to comfortability and back seat space. I also noticed a big difference when driving it on the highway. The accord was just comfortable and the civic felt like my 2010 Toyota Corolla and I was not having any of it. Both amazing cars but for my needs the accord was the way to go.
I strayed from a lifelong Honda owner to a Mazda in 2021. I ultimately bought a Mazda CX 30 turbo which you guys reviewed. I’ve been very happy with the purchase.
A CVT doesn't have set gear ratios. Some have a manual mode which does have sort of set ratios but a CVT is continuously variable which means it's essentially just contracting and expanding and making almost infinite set of gears. That's why they are so fuel efficient
I have a 2016 Civic Touring and just bought a 2022 Honda Accord 2.0T Touring. The Accord is so much better in every aspect except for gas mileage and turning radius.
I had the 2016 touring and have regretted trading that for 2 years. how do you think the 2022 compares? I'm considering going back to it but I loved that v6
To me, it’s not contest unless you absolutely have to have the smaller car. The Accord 2.0T is a great car, fuel efficient, plenty of power, loads of tech, looks good, and you’re not saddled with a CVT and get a solid 10 speed gearbox
Better fuel economy though in the Civic, which does matter to a lot of people. For me, since I'm sometimes in San Francisco, parking the Accord there would be a challenge, so I'd go for the Civic.
@@-SP. That's why I'm swapping out my 2018 Corolla iM hatchback for a 2022 Kia Rio next week. I rented one a month ago and was getting an astonishing 44-45 MPG on the highway with the CVT, which uses a chain instead of a belt. At $18,000 and with the way cars are being marked up, I couldn't say no for the price and big savings I'll enjoy on the fuel.
@@namvet1968 In non-pandemic times, I could have gotten one for $16,000. Most dealerships are charging $20,000+ for them now, which is why I bought mine 5 hours away. Driving up there next week to trade in my car and pick up the new Rio. Comes standard with a 60,000 mile bumper to bumper and 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
I have the same gen accord with the 2.0L turbo engine & the 10-speed transmission. 100% worth the upgrade, the transmission is so smooth and makes great power in 3rd and 4th gear. It's so fast and will be very receptive to some engine tuning :)
Depends on the year and trim level, but I was able to negotiate a 2020 Accord Sport for $2400 more than the 2020 Civic Hatch Sport (new and in 2020). At that price, seemed a no brainer and that I’d likely regret not getting the larger car and extra features. Also, this is a last year versus first year comparison. The difference will likely NOT be 10k. Civic will go closer to sticker as a new redesign where the Accords will likely need incentives to move since a new Accord is coming in 2023. So it will not be a 10k difference in final price.
I recently picked up a 19 Accord with the 6MT, and one of my favorite features is the sunken cup holders that keep even 24 ounce drinks out of the way of the shifter.
@@danhughes1814 sorry for the rude comment. Honda spends alot time and costs in always improving their interior designs. I know how Honda thinks. I like working with Subaru and Toyota better
I have a 2018 civic and the sound proof is not very good honestly, but 10 gen civic has the most aggressive designed of its exterior which I like it the most.
For the price I would take the Civic. Almost as roomy, love the advanced airbags and better fuel mileage. When backing the Accord you looked down to shift both times while in Civlc never looked down. And liked the clicking noise in the Civic better. I’m not a buyer for either car but that’s my .02 cents worth. Great videos as always!
The accord is nicer in my opinion because who doesn’t love a more luxurious car but I would choose the civic I feel safer I got into a really bad accident in mine and I can really say those bags saved me.
I actually have both cars, a 2021 accord sport, and a 2022 civic touring. I like the civic better, cheaper for almost the same car. The main thing I only pay $96 full coverage for the civic , and $126 for the accord.
Great comparison. I think the Civic is the one. You can't beat that fuel economy these days. I'm predicting that gas prices are not going down significantly. Ever. There's too much crazy stuff going on in the world and our country and I don't see an end to it.
Bought a 2021 Accord Touring Hybrid , hated the “premium audio” and low profile tires that rode hard. Added decent speakers ,amplifier and went down in rim-tire size, major improvement. Actually which they offered phev and 300 + hp on the Accord , that would be awesome.
Does reducing the rim/tire size below the manufacturer's stock size negatively impact handling and steering in any way? I've always wondered about that. One thing I hate about the 17 inch alloy stock wheels on my 2018 Toyota Corolla iM over the 15 inch standard wheels in the Australian model of the same hatchback (which I've driven several times over in Sydney) is that the 17 inch alloy wheels and tires just flat out ride harder and make the car as a whole bouncier. Can't stand it. I'm actually in the process of downgrading to a 2022 Kia Rio sedan. Had the 2018 Rio hatchback (same generation and both ride on the same wheelbase) and the 15 inch tires made that car more stable and planted vs. what I'm experiencing in my Corolla iM.
@@FreewayBrent I went from 18" to 17" in a Civic and it made a big difference but the shocks are worn out now. That makes a big difference too. Hopefully I don't have to replace control arms and bushings.
Was considering either to get an accord or civic as my first car for my freshman year in college. This was a great comparison video between these 2 cars. I’m leaning towards the accord because of the exterior and interior design 🤩😁
I got a 2018 2.0T Accord as soon as I got out of high school, it's definitely a must have it is amazing. The 2021 refresh is much better with wireless carplay, now just waiting for the 2023 Type-R
I got a 2018 1.5t late 2021, absolutely 0 complaints brother, fuel economy and design is amazing and it drives great, not the fastest thing in the world but its no slouch either in sport mode.
Had a 2018 Accord 2.0. Only complaint was the audio system. It had the 450watt premium audio with sub. It was mediocre at best. My old 2005 Accord with premium sound was bumping better because it was rocking 6x9 speakers on the rear. Only advantage of the 2018 audio was slight audio clarity and android auto / apple carplay
I agree it's not the best, next generation will fix that for sure, however I had a 2017 Accord and the 2018 is definitely an improvement, not groundbreaking, but it's way better than 2017
Wife has the 22 Civic Touring, I have the 20 Accord Touring 2.0, we love them both! The Civic is the best model of civic yet, top notch, and a great value, and would sell like crazy if there was stock. The Accord is a phenomenal value as well.
tbh can't go wrong with either car. I had a 2018 Civic Touring and loved it (until it was totaled due to an elderly lady) and now I'm in a 2021 Accord Hybrid Touring and love it. Don't think I could go back to a Civic at this point, or a non hybrid Accord. I do like how the Civic looks more than the Accord, though.
Interesting comparo. I did my own back in 2008 and decided on getting a used 2004 accord in the highest trim. However I really like the latest gen civic. In terms of refinement, quality and features, the gap between the two seems smaller. I like you using the parking lot to demo the turning radius.
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Do Cayman (GTS 4.0) vs 911! May the truest sports car win =)
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I may be in the minority, but Imprezza and Legacy would be an interesting watch for me
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Even if we ignore the difference in size (and what that represents in dollar figure), the cost to get 70hp reliably, upgraded transmission, the adaptive suspension, the added features such as HUD heated and Cooled seats, it would cost more than 10k. But this comparison really shows how far the Civic has evolved. Its basically a small luxury car now.
crazy thing is in the real world it isn't a 10k difference heck civics are marked up so much it might not even be a 5k difference especially if you go for the often time's cheaper 2.0 sport.
@@GoldenNada sadly that is absolutely the truth. I was just talking to my best friend a few hours ago about the civic markups in Miami Florida being $8,000-$12,000 depending on trim and people are still lining up to pay it and drive away.
I got a new civic hatchback 500 below MSRP a few months back. You can get a good deal of you are willing to wait 1-2 mo
@@2004cyrus I thought the Type R with the $18,000 markup was the worse, but the $12,000 for a regular Civic beats it by far! These damn car prices are so ridiculous and people and still paying it, and then they are wondering why they are all broke AF.
@@SI0AX yes I took photos of the crazy ass window stickers and sent them to friends and family who said I doubt the markups are that high. They all got mad and said that some bull sh*t! And I believe the government, Biden and them, they are going to let gas prices double and make us Marxist. They want us to be broke so we will be dependent upon their small handouts and corporations can get richer and give them kickbacks.
Pretty good concept, feel like you could do this with most brands.
Huracan vs Aventador next
Shud do a wrx vs sti wen it comes out
So true lol. How do car companies get away with this bullshit
@@TheStraightPipes haha please, one for us common folk
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that is an awesome piece of content and the lambo clash will be tremendous! might also do a ttrs vs rs5
For everyday use, the civic is definitely the better deal. Would buy for under $25k. Great comparison.
I’d just option for a CPO Accord 2.0T. The 2.0T and 10-speed is just way better than the 1.5T and CVT. Like no contest.
@@marcusmcneal7453 a 2 year old cpo accord cost as much as a brand new 1 right now lol. Maybe even more lmfaoo.
What about a Kia Rio for another 10k less?
@Rich V
Kia Rio?
not the same segment..
Unfortunately the real prices out there probably won't allow for that. My cousin was getting a civic sport I believe with the 2.0 base engine and it was 28k lol.
I love how you guys are being creative and differentiating from other car review youtubers. Also 13:00 crazy edits!
Absolutely dig the new videos and cinematography, it's pure entertainment.
I really love the back and forth dialogue as you two were driving down the road together. Really interesting concept!
Three point turn test, low key, my second favorite test behind the visor test. Straight Pipes EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!!
I thought you'd have timed it too though...
That turning circle test with the ghost accord was SICK. Do that more often please
I agree!
The winner: my 8th gen Accord coupe with a 3.5L V6.
True
Without a doubt. Kind of a Unicorn these days.
Correct
I’ve got a manual swapped v6 8th gen sedan. Good fun.
My TL Type s gas mileage ain’t the best but I’m having hella fun
Loved everything about this video. 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T owner here
New civic has a better Appeal and More aesthetically pleasing
I absolutely love the back and forth. Not sure how often you guys get two cars from the same manufacturer, but would like to see this format more.
This is by far my favorite video you guys have done 👍👍 i loved it from beginning to end
Does it have something to do with 2 Honda's? 😂❤️
Agreed Jason!
The nardo grey Audis in 2018 or so were great, but I didn’t expect milky greys to get old so fast
it does, if u use the Audi paint code.
This is Honda's version lmao and honda has shit paint, look at 2006, gen 9? clear coat civic
@@lucienl9465 I got a 2008 8th gen civic, and the paint is super thin I think. I was told they had paint issues back than so the service man said they dont near the issues as back than. The drivetrain will last longer the body on my car.
@@lucienl9465 2006 is the first year of the 8th gen.
Nardo Grey is great but Honda's has a wierd tint to it IRL. Most brands seem to have their own versions of nardo grey now - getting outplayed now.
There’s a trendy paint color every few years and this became the current one
For me it's still the Accord 2.0 hands down. It's factor based for anyone looking at these two. What can be afforded at the moment, how long does one plan to keep the car, and ones age. The first is self explanatory. You should only buy what you can actually afford. The second is a bit different. If I just need something to get me around for the next few years, I'm not going to drop a lot of money on it. If I plan to keep it a good while, I want the best I can get. Last, age is about transitional years. What I want in my teens and 20s will usually be different from my 30s and 40s. I could see more younger people going for the Civic, and middle aged to older people going for the Accord.
That's so true. Get what you can afford. I'm looking to buy a new car. And I'm leaning toward the Accord.
Well I'm in my 30s and my interests haven't changed much from my 20s but me personally I'll probably get the civic because it's still more affordable and it has improved a lot.. it's almost like a mini accord now so I'll buy it.. only thing I wished is that they had kept the coupe model that would of been my top choice honestly.
The 10 speed transmission alone is a reason to go with the accord
The Accord is in its fifth model year so a full redesign should be coming by the end of this year, if historical timelines stick in this pandemic. We should also see a new Camry this year since the current Camry went on sale six months before the current Accord in 2017.
Yes, and even though they mention that the '22 is the refresh, the Accord was actually refreshed for the '21 model year.
Usually good selling generations get a full redesign much later.
@@a32tl Correct, and with that came wireless apple carplay which was a MUCH needed upgrade, and those amazing looking wheels that are unparalleled in any other sedan in it's class. Among other features of course and upgrades such as the fog lights and other things, but those 2 that I mentioned first being the biggest and most important in my book.
Yeah Accord is soon due for a refresh, Honda has given no info yet to dealers but because of covid you never know, it could be a 2023 or 2024 Accord. The 10th generation Civic Type-R came out 2017, the 10th generation Accord soon followed in 2018. Following that pattern plus covid it might not be until the 2024 model year, not 2023. Considering the Type-R has not even been revealed yet, it is coming for the 2023 model year though according to Honda
I hope the next generation is released for 2023, that update will put the accord on another level
I just picked up the 2022 accord last December as my first car. And honestly it’s amazing. It’s super fun to drive and it’s practical
Did you spring for the 2.0T?
@@a32tl yeah I did. It definitely makes it a cooler car in my opinion to know that I can beat most cars at a light. The fuel economy leaves a little to be desired tho.
@@Justin_hsi I have a '20 Accord Touring 2.0T that I absolutely love. It is quick. As far as fuel economy, the majority of my driving is highway so I average well over 29 mpg.
Awesome, is it a touring though?
@@NorthernLaw_ yeah. 22 2.0 Touring. The additional “luxury” features are really nice
Loved the review. I did this same comparison this past week and ended up buying the Accord. The ride feels more premium due to the bigger engine, 10 speed transmission, and compliance over bumps and rough patches probably because of the adaptive dampers and wheel base. The rear seat passengers get heated seats and climate vents while the Civic gives neither in the US. The Civic is a great not so little car though and is the better bang for your buck, especially the hatchback but the price difference is around $8k in the US when comparing both top trims and the hatch.
Do they make a civic hybrid hatchback?
@@tastybrownie7448 Nope.
@@troyjollimore4100 Bummer
@@tastybrownie7448 You might see one, but if things go according to their ‘New World Order’ plan, it’ll be a pure EV instead.
@@troyjollimore4100 its called saving the planet. catch-up please.
First video I've ever seen from the channel. This was soooo good. What a great way to review! Love the real life comparisons and the honesty.
Losing the 6-speed manual in the 2.0T Accord is a tragedy. That Accord Sport was a hoot to drive!
The Civic has gotten so big. It’s a 7/8th scale Accord.
to be fair. that’s my only complain against the 11th gen civic
Yeah, in some angles they look basically the same in size.
You can get the hatchback, it's shorter than the sedan
@@zhila5958 it’s the same size as the last generation
The last "small" Civic was the 7th gen though.
Accord all day, especially 2.0 touring. Miss the old 19 inch touring wheels that came with the pre refresh model, but these look fine.
You liked the old touring wheels? Damn I've never seen anyone say that before, I cannot express how good the new ones are, they literally took what everyone loved, the 2017 Sport wheels, and made them better, these are my all time favorite Honda wheels, other than the Civic Type-R LE
@@NorthernLaw_ yes I think it made the new model what it is. Those wheels are awesome too just think they’re for the previous generation. I like the Audi like look they give this generation. But that’s just my eye, I wouldn’t not want them though.
Got a 2020 touring & I love the rims
These wheels are awful I like the grim reaper looking wheels however they are hot commodity to get stolen
Yes Accord all the way. Accord so much roomier on the inside. Get an Accord people. Great Vehicle
I got the 18 accord 2.0T 6spd and its so fun and practical at the same time. Plus with mods and tune making some good power now it's a genuine sleeper
I have it in San Marino red
I'm 6'4 and when I was hunting for cars I tried the 2016 civic it was way to cramped, but the 2013 accord I settled on was just right for what I needed.
Just bought a 2013 Civic myself as a 6'2" dude, it's certainly not a midsized car but it's cozy enough. The Accord from that year only has half an inch more for leg room, so the perception of less space in the Civic is just that...a perception 😛 Civics do more with less space, I think that's what puts them on top. But Accord is where the best performance is at, so that would also be a consideration if speed and high acceleration mattered to you over economy.
@@bernlin2000 dude, both of them aren’t fast and I don’t think it would be a difference driving any of those cars because you want really be racing them. I don’t really think people should compare performance in family cats
The 2022 and 2023 are far worst and cramp in!
@@JSTMelon In terms of fuel economy to speed, the turbos in both cars are great man.
I’m 5’7, so a Civil feels like a bus to me.
The biggest difference is in the engine design. I'd get the Civic if it weren't for the history of oil dilution issue for the .5L. That 2.0L is solid as a rock and that is more valuable than any Civic advantages combined.
After decades of seeing accords and civics, I honestly cannot tell them apart in this generation.
sweet vid, i actually just hit my 1st year anniversary for my 2021 accord sport 2.0t and i ADORE mine. great cars both of them
Those two cars are so much alike! Always great videos guys!
HUD is radically underrated. I have the touring accord and it’s my favorite feature
I bought a civic 2022 last year I just found this video in the global suggestion you guys are awesome got a new suscribe
Been looking forward to a comparison between these two for ages. Keep up the great work 👍 👏 💪
Jacub and Yuri: *calling Accord a luxury car*
Acura: Am I a joke to you?
I'm a lawyer defending my client
Yes, Acura is a joke
@@n52gremlin15 said no one ever
@@pantherdxn4835 name an exciting/amazing/cutting edge product they currently make. A product that you compare to other cars in their respective classes that you truly want. I’ll wait. It’s disappointing, but the brand is totally lost.
@@diego04cr2 not sure why you're looking for "exciting/amazing/cutting edge" with an entry-level luxury brand that still undercuts its rivals on lower-priced trim levels. the rdx and mdx have great reviews and the integra is based on a solid si. the only good argument against acura really should be that the koreans are legit direct competitors that also offer solid value propositions, but their trade off for the added luxury/features is driving dynamics.
FINNALLY a 2.0T review! THANK YOU!!!
oh my gosh I thoroughly enjoy watching the two of you go back and forth. This is a win, you are a win. Made my day.
Sweet thanks check out our Integra vs Civic Si if you liked this 👍
My grandpa, I call him Papo, has a that same color 2022 Honda Accord. His philosophy is that since he doesn’t have that much time left, he might as well get something nice. And damnit, it is NICE. Hands down the most luxurious car I’ve ever driven and been in
This generation of the Accord is legendary - it's like a German luxury sedan for less money. Either way Honda makes the best sedans in their classes
I have no complaints about my 19 Accord Touring for a daily driver. Excellent car!
I really like the new Civic front design. I'm not a big fan of the rear I feel like it looks too basic but overall the new Civic looks very clean.
The hatchback is nice though
I thought the old design with the tail lights integrated into the trunk lid looked really stupid.
@@andrewn6384 What do you mean.....it's the same thing now
@@NorthernLaw_ I meant the way the lights blend onto the top of the trunk.
@@andrewn6384 Yeah I'm still confused, how are they different? I mean the designs are different but both the 9th and 10th gen accords have the taillights on the trunk
Loving that civic has a brand new design, but I wish it had a more aggressive/sporty look. Also I wish it had more features like cooling seats and a heated steering wheel, plus lumbar support would’ve been nice. Overall it seems like a great upgrade from my 2013 civic lx, I can’t wait
I have a 2012 civic lx, still runs like a dream , m sure urs too..
It does have heated steering wheel. Or at least the Canadian spec does.
Literally, the 10th gen, the body style before this one has the aggressive sporty look...they took all of that out in this gen civic.
I'm looking to upgrade from my hand me down 04 honda civic lx! OLD ass car looking to give it a 2022 upgrade lol
In my opinion I like that it seems more mature as opposed to sporty. Just my taste tho 🤷♂️
I think the accord looks better over all, but I feel the Civic would be more fun to drive daily. Great video!
this was so fun to watch! I was smiling the entire time
You guys should do more of these entry vs high-end sedans for other models! I would definitely look forward to those!
Accord is not the high end sedan.
With how good the accord still is after 5 years, I just cant wait for the new actual redesign for it.
10th Gen is peak Accord, I'm afraid next one will be a let down.
@@YasssStitch Same! Unfortunately a lot of brands have been screwing up their new gen designs :(
@@YasssStitch I'd say the 9th gen Accord was the peak. It's better styled than the 10th gen, IMO.
I'm really hoping Honda doesn't screw up the next gen Accord. If they go backwards in power or performance at all, I will be disappointed. The current Accord 2.0T is very quick but the new offerings from Kia/Hyundai are even a bit quicker. The next gen Accord should not lose any ground to its competitors in terms of performance.
@@a32tl what similar priced offerings from Hyundai/ Kia are quicker then the accord?
I like how they said "it would be expensive to 'retrofit' adaptive suspension" when the previous gen Si had adaptive dual mode shocks... Works perfectly and hasn't needed to be replaced so... Honda did it right, and the car was still cheaper than the current model with more equipment.
I spend way too much of my free time watching automotive journalists talk about cars, and you two are one of my favorites for sure. I absolutely love watching your banter plus you're so knowledgeable. This "versus" style video is very impressive and must have taken some serious effort to edit together. At the end of the day I would not be caught dead driving a Civic or an Accord, but I would watch you both talking about them and anything else with four wheels any day. Please keep up the impeccable work.
Thank you so much for this comment. Really keeps up motivated 🙌
Honestly for daily use, w this ongoing inflation and absurd gas prices, I would take cvt all day. Hybrid even better.
Same. Like I’m honestly debating getting an old Insight on Craigslist at this point 😂 these gas prices are crazy!
1.5 cvt accord is better instead of civic more comfortable and a good cruiser
@Rotchild
I've been thinking the same, especially because I like the more modern 10th gen Civic/Insight design better than the 11th gen Civic, with the possible exception of the new Civic Hatch. Or even an Accord Hybrid. Just recently realized that Honda now makes an Accord "Sport," Hybrid for 2022 as well. I really like that too.
Accord Hybrid is bussing
I have a 2018 Honda Accord base hybrid and I’m averaging 40mpg after 6500 miles it’s been awesome
There is a way to completely turn off civic traction. I don’t know if you guys did this. When i first saw this i thought it wouldn't work but it does. Here it is:
1. Turn the car to one position.
2. Parking brake off.
3. Press and hold the brake pedal.
4. Turn traction control on and off.
5. Parking brake on.
6. Release the brake pedal.
7. Turn traction control on and off.
8. Press and hold the brake pedal.
9. Turn traction control on and off.
hey guys! thanks so much! i've been wanting this kind of comparison video for so long! it's a great format! would be so cool to see bmw 3 vs bmw 5, audi a4 vs a6 etc...
the way yall went about comparing these cars is very well put together
"..does it do that in your civic??"
"No but I have a spare 10 grand in my pocket"
I would take the accord for the transmission, but civic still pretty good. Great video
And that detuned Type R engine
I hope the 10 speed goes into the Integra
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@@R4M_Tommy Probably too low of power to put the 10 speed. The 8-Speed DCT that they use in other Acura products might be better.
Stick Accord Hatch ... would be heavnly
Watching the video, my eyes fell on the Accord much more often. Its larger size seems to balance all of the car's lines better than its little brother, the Civic. For me, it would be 100% the Accord 2.0T. Love that engine. If it were an Accord 1.5T, I might would consider the Civic Touring. To me, the Accord Touring 2.0T's price is justifiable.
Isn’t the accord touring 2.0 like 40k?
@@yaruby3008 MSRP in the USA is right around $38k. I picked up my CPO '20 Accord Touring 2.0T a year ago with 7k miles on it for $30k. I was very fortunate to buy one right before used car prices went through the roof. I could sell it now for more than what I paid for it, even with more miles on it. However, I am not looking to do that. I love it and am eager to see what Honda will do with the '23 complete redesign of the Accord.
As an accord owner of a 2.4 natural aspirated I4, I can verify that the smaller engine option in the Accord sucks. Perhaps a bit les with the 1.5 turbo but if I did it again I’d definitely go with the bigger engine for sure
$42k for new Accord? Epic fail.
@@davidmullineaux6157 It's Canadian $42k.
Such a great video. Top quality car review channel and it's always great getting more 22 Civic content!
Great video, was really interested in the handling of both. Love that civic. I’ve driven a lot of sports cars, old and new, and my 2016 civic handling is unmatched. Best car ever
1-22-2023, 3:19AM, PST
: My wife and I purchased a 2023 Honda Civic Sport 2.0L about 3 weeks ago. We R loving it.
We had a 1998 Honda Accord in which we had for 24 years. The accord was totaled in an accident, so we replaced it with the new civic. We took very good care of the Accord up until this point.
Hopefully, we'll get the same amount of time out of the new civic. I quite enjoyed the side-by-side comparison of these 2 Honda's.
🐢 😀 🐢 👍 🐢 🚘
Thank you Mr. Yuri for the “leak”
If price is the biggest concern, you could take the 2018 accord touring which is the same price as the new civic...
But you’d lose your warranty it’s already 4 years old
@@f181234 Go through the CPO process for the power train warranty
Hands down the civic ! That clicking noise sounds like it was engineered by a watchmaker. Perfection.
Cooled seats, hud, hybrid and 2.0t and 1.5 liter options, more room, a 10 speed transmission. Hands down worth it
Did the same comparison. Ended up getting the accord due to comfortability and back seat space. I also noticed a big difference when driving it on the highway. The accord was just comfortable and the civic felt like my 2010 Toyota Corolla and I was not having any of it. Both amazing cars but for my needs the accord was the way to go.
The zooming interior shot is beautiful. The civic is very youthful, while the accord is very classy
My wife loves her V6 (278 hp) Touring Accord.
It is surprisingly quick.
The exact video i needed to listen through my bathroom break 🤣 Thanks bois, great timing, amazing video 😎
I strayed from a lifelong Honda owner to a Mazda in 2021. I ultimately bought a Mazda CX 30 turbo which you guys reviewed. I’ve been very happy with the purchase.
A CVT doesn't have set gear ratios. Some have a manual mode which does have sort of set ratios but a CVT is continuously variable which means it's essentially just contracting and expanding and making almost infinite set of gears. That's why they are so fuel efficient
Honda makes them simulate gears as do many manufacturers
The Accord Sport 2.0T is definitely the best choice - better than the civic and cheaper than the accord touring
.....and better looking!
I have a 2016 Civic Touring and just bought a 2022 Honda Accord 2.0T Touring. The Accord is so much better in every aspect except for gas mileage and turning radius.
I had the 2016 touring and have regretted trading that for 2 years. how do you think the 2022 compares? I'm considering going back to it but I loved that v6
THIS is the quality normal car content we need!
I have the 22 si in this color and it’s a blast to drive. 1500 miles driven so far and I have no complaints
Had my 2022 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback, since mid Nov of 2021 and after 6 months I still love this car!! Zero regrets
Love these comparison vids so much 😁
To me, it’s not contest unless you absolutely have to have the smaller car. The Accord 2.0T is a great car, fuel efficient, plenty of power, loads of tech, looks good, and you’re not saddled with a CVT and get a solid 10 speed gearbox
Better fuel economy though in the Civic, which does matter to a lot of people. For me, since I'm sometimes in San Francisco, parking the Accord there would be a challenge, so I'd go for the Civic.
@@FreewayBrent Especially with current gas prices
@@-SP. That's why I'm swapping out my 2018 Corolla iM hatchback for a 2022 Kia Rio next week. I rented one a month ago and was getting an astonishing 44-45 MPG on the highway with the CVT, which uses a chain instead of a belt. At $18,000 and with the way cars are being marked up, I couldn't say no for the price and big savings I'll enjoy on the fuel.
@@FreewayBrent Wow! A new Kia Rio for 18 grand? What's your warranty?
@@namvet1968 In non-pandemic times, I could have gotten one for $16,000. Most dealerships are charging $20,000+ for them now, which is why I bought mine 5 hours away. Driving up there next week to trade in my car and pick up the new Rio.
Comes standard with a 60,000 mile bumper to bumper and 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
I have the same gen accord with the 2.0L turbo engine & the 10-speed transmission. 100% worth the upgrade, the transmission is so smooth and makes great power in 3rd and 4th gear. It's so fast and will be very receptive to some engine tuning :)
Depends on the year and trim level, but I was able to negotiate a 2020 Accord Sport for $2400 more than the 2020 Civic Hatch Sport (new and in 2020). At that price, seemed a no brainer and that I’d likely regret not getting the larger car and extra features. Also, this is a last year versus first year comparison. The difference will likely NOT be 10k. Civic will go closer to sticker as a new redesign where the Accords will likely need incentives to move since a new Accord is coming in 2023. So it will not be a 10k difference in final price.
My dad got a 2020 2.0t touring fully loaded accord for $32,000 cad used with 40,000km.
I recently picked up a 19 Accord with the 6MT, and one of my favorite features is the sunken cup holders that keep even 24 ounce drinks out of the way of the shifter.
You'll be thirsty when you have to work when your Honda breaks down
@@lowlifeangler thank you so much for your insightful comment!
@@danhughes1814 sorry for the rude comment. Honda spends alot time and costs in always improving their interior designs. I know how Honda thinks. I like working with Subaru and Toyota better
The lack of ventilated front seats is a bummer for the Civic.
What do you give a crap about ventilated seats. Put on the air conditioning.
I would love the accord if it had a sport back option 😭
When the Civic hatchback came out they were marked up right to Accord pricing, which really made the Accord seem like a better deal.
I have a 2018 civic and the sound proof is not very good honestly, but 10 gen civic has the most aggressive designed of its exterior which I like it the most.
For the price I would take the Civic. Almost as roomy, love the advanced airbags and better fuel mileage. When backing the Accord you looked down to shift both times while in Civlc never looked down. And liked the clicking noise in the Civic better. I’m not a buyer for either car but that’s my .02 cents worth. Great videos as always!
once you get used to the accord with the push buttons you don't have to look down
A CV-R price is about the same as Accord. As working for a Honda part supplier, orders are high for a new CR-V and very low for Accord
The accord is nicer in my opinion because who doesn’t love a more luxurious car but I would choose the civic I feel safer I got into a really bad accident in mine and I can really say those bags saved me.
@@nancyyyf1514 I'm glad you survived
@@nancyyyf1514Stop texting and driving
I actually have both cars, a 2021 accord sport, and a 2022 civic touring. I like the civic better, cheaper for almost the same car. The main thing I only pay $96 full coverage for the civic , and $126 for the accord.
What state is that?
Which insurance company?😅
@@takylajenkins2480 California, and The General insurance
Great comparison. I think the Civic is the one. You can't beat that fuel economy these days. I'm predicting that gas prices are not going down significantly. Ever. There's too much crazy stuff going on in the world and our country and I don't see an end to it.
Sad thing is all by design aka great reset.
Maybe sometime in or after 2024 things could return to a more normalcy.
Bought a 2021 Accord Touring Hybrid , hated the “premium audio” and low profile tires that rode hard. Added decent speakers ,amplifier and went down in rim-tire size, major improvement. Actually which they offered phev and 300 + hp on the Accord , that would be awesome.
Next generation Accord should be out sooner than later. Hopefully a PHEV will be included in the lineup.
Does reducing the rim/tire size below the manufacturer's stock size negatively impact handling and steering in any way? I've always wondered about that. One thing I hate about the 17 inch alloy stock wheels on my 2018 Toyota Corolla iM over the 15 inch standard wheels in the Australian model of the same hatchback (which I've driven several times over in Sydney) is that the 17 inch alloy wheels and tires just flat out ride harder and make the car as a whole bouncier. Can't stand it.
I'm actually in the process of downgrading to a 2022 Kia Rio sedan. Had the 2018 Rio hatchback (same generation and both ride on the same wheelbase) and the 15 inch tires made that car more stable and planted vs. what I'm experiencing in my Corolla iM.
@@FreewayBrent I went from 18" to 17" in a Civic and it made a big difference but the shocks are worn out now. That makes a big difference too. Hopefully I don't have to replace control arms and bushings.
@@jamesmedina2062 Yeah those things can get pricey. I'm guessing about $2,000 for a suspension rebuild?
I own both vehicles, 2.0t accord sport and civic touring, both are great options with different pros and cons.
I love the way you did this video! Best way to do a comparison
I’ve had to look twice when seeing the new Civic. From a distance it’s hard to tell.
I don't really see it. I think the more stretched Accord has much better proportions, in comparison to the stubby Civic.
Genius idea for a video..more of this please
Was considering either to get an accord or civic as my first car for my freshman year in college. This was a great comparison video between these 2 cars. I’m leaning towards the accord because of the exterior and interior design 🤩😁
accord in 1.5 is also good same economy as civic but more roomier and luxury drive
Save your money, get a civic. Or a used civic. Don't start your life with a large debt.... Unless of course money is no object for you.
I got a 2018 2.0T Accord as soon as I got out of high school, it's definitely a must have it is amazing. The 2021 refresh is much better with wireless carplay, now just waiting for the 2023 Type-R
@@michaelbyrne6515 I got an Accord and it was worth it, gotta just be smart and it works out
I got a 2018 1.5t late 2021, absolutely 0 complaints brother, fuel economy and design is amazing and it drives great, not the fastest thing in the world but its no slouch either in sport mode.
I’m in this dilemma right now it’s so frustrating! If only the civic had the engine and transmission from the accord lol
Just picked up a brand new civic and absolutely love it, your guys video was one of the reasons I moved so fast on it🙌
Congrats
I sat in the si at the Houston autoshow....the manual shifter felt great...push button shifters suck because you have to look.
Had a 2018 Accord 2.0. Only complaint was the audio system. It had the 450watt premium audio with sub. It was mediocre at best. My old 2005 Accord with premium sound was bumping better because it was rocking 6x9 speakers on the rear. Only advantage of the 2018 audio was slight audio clarity and android auto / apple carplay
I agree it's not the best, next generation will fix that for sure, however I had a 2017 Accord and the 2018 is definitely an improvement, not groundbreaking, but it's way better than 2017
Mess with bass volume and you’ll be fine with the audio (:
@@JacquieZahela I still wasn’t completely satisfied. Plus , the more bass I put in the rear deck starts to rattle.
@@KrustyKrabPizza85 the rattle was fixed in the newest model
Wife has the 22 Civic Touring, I have the 20 Accord Touring 2.0, we love them both! The Civic is the best model of civic yet, top notch, and a great value, and would sell like crazy if there was stock. The Accord is a phenomenal value as well.
tbh can't go wrong with either car. I had a 2018 Civic Touring and loved it (until it was totaled due to an elderly lady) and now I'm in a 2021 Accord Hybrid Touring and love it. Don't think I could go back to a Civic at this point, or a non hybrid Accord. I do like how the Civic looks more than the Accord, though.
I saw a 2022 civic ad and had to look it up and found this video. I thought it was a accord at first, it looks full-size like the accord
I would like to see you guys repeat the ioniq roadtrip with a hybrid and a fully electric car.
Interesting comparo. I did my own back in 2008 and decided on getting a used 2004 accord in the highest trim. However I really like the latest gen civic. In terms of refinement, quality and features, the gap between the two seems smaller. I like you using the parking lot to demo the turning radius.
7th gen gang lol
Yuri’s face when the accord is on eco and the civic on sportiest setting😅😂
Great video Gents .. lot of fun to watch .. Given that gas is going to $10 in CA .. the Civic is the man !! Thank you 🙏🏼