@@aadi8568 in the rest of the world yes, but in the USA they arent that many. And even in Europe crossovers are becoming popular. I dont think hatchbacks and cars will die tho cause they handle better and are more elegant!
@@moonsapling ah ok, and yes even here there are a lot more crossovers than before. But I doubt many of these size cars will be cancelled, the ford fiesta is the best selling car in my country (UK)
Great video, guys. I would totally choose the Honda, hands-down. I think they did a great job overall, but just not completely sold on the styling yet. By the way, I love the video format you guys used: side by side commentary on the fly.
Honda knocked it out of the park with this gen. Literally nailed it. You can't go wrong with either option though at least if you're going for the base model. Both are so good but the Honda does edge it out this time
@@TheStraightPipesYou guys need to be way more critical. If you down play the negatives then you don't have a well rounded review. This is why you should watch @savagegeese instead or in addition, in order to get the real full perspective of these cars.
@@jtland4842 Oh, they already know Savagegeese. They've collabed with Mark in the past. But I do get the feeling that they say everything is good without being critical.
i haven't seen the new corolla yet, but i test drove a 2024 civic sport and i gotta say, one of the most comfortable yet affordable cars out there. i'm really hoping to snag one once i get my 2010 insight sold
Careful! The 2.0 liter turbos still have oil dilution and rear main seal leaks!!! Im assuming the 1.5 arnt very good either. Also the gas milage will be 20 to 30 percent worse on civic also!!
Definitely excited for this new Civic interior. I have the 2019 Civic Hatchback currently, and my biggest gripe is the climate control being partially on the touch screen. Very happy they did away with that.
@@akkiaaa I do have a 10gen sedan currently and can't wait to buy a 11gen hatch. Sedans are not practical at all, I can't even chuck my bicycle in properly. I don't mind hatch smaller cargo volume if I can actually access it way easier. And since 11gen hatch looks almost exactly as sexy as the sedan it's a no brainer for me.
I love that they gave the civic a longer front end! I think if they did something like that for the corrolla They’d be really matched! I’m looking forward to the civic being my first car!
I love how at 2:10 hes straight up smiling about doing this as a job for another thirty years. I know I cant imagine doing my job for another 3 with a huge smile like that
Turbo charging is great to downsize engine and cutdown on tax Personally, Corollas better considering it's NA, strong performance and Toyotas bullet proof reliability
@@Brian-jv8iy yup our 2017 Camry has problems considering it was brand new off the lot. Driveshaft clanks when reversing, bad smelling ac, cheap batteries which left us stranded the day of our flight, problem with the AC again it makes a super loud clicking noise then we have it so the air only comes out in our face so we now have to have it where it fires on our face and feet which now lowers the volume of air that it pushes it happened for no reason and now the radio when on AM/FM it produces a super high pitched noise which bothers us after a couple of minutes of driving.
@@Brian-jv8iy Just about every small car is cheap and shitty. They have to make up for the cheap price tag with income from servicing and less desirable materials. As for Toyota’s being overrated I don’t think that’s true especially compared to its competitors here in North America...
@@lfox02 0.3 was the drag of my 2006 corolla before I sold it. My 2005 Mercedes E55 has drag of 0.27 cd. New cars are becoming less and less aerodynamic everyday.
Picking my civic up next week and I’ve never felt so confident on a purchase because of your guys videos, thank you for the great information and certain opinions towards different aspects of the vehicle you guys helped a lot.
Which trim did you get and why? Things you like and don’t like? I’m trying to choose a car right now, kinda stuck between a new civic or slightly older accord
@@KiiDMaGiiKim 1 year late but i also got a brand new civic 2024. I hope this helps to make a decision to you lol In my case i got a civic sport sedan in meteorite gray color Things that i like: its very comfortable, fun to drive, you can change between sport mode, econ, normal and just have a fun drive, in my opinion it feels smoother to drive than the corolla. Infoentertainement is way better than the corolla, feels more premium also. I think both makes are at the same level in terms of reliability. Its very good in fuel economy specially if you have econ mode on, the sport trim comes with leather steeringwheel, and that good looking sport rims Things that i dont like: i thought the base model would come with blind spot monitors and parking sensors but it doesnt, for the price and with a new generation, 2024 car i thought that would be incluided on the base model or at least on the sport base but no, but also the corolla LE doesnt come with these either so.. The car on exterior looks more mature, maybe some people dont like it, actually if someone that doesnt know that much of cars compare to previous gen civic with this new one he/she will think the old gen is the new one If you dont care about the parking sensors and blind spot monitor then get the sport version, is way better than the LX and its just 30$ more per month
Great review, you guys helped me make a hard decision. A lot of these reviews on UA-cam get too silly and I get tired of them goofing off and thinking they are comedians when I just want some honest opinions and comparisons.
@@notthekhajiturlooking4836 That ILX shouldn't be as expensive as it is. It's based on the Civic Si of two generations ago and has only had cosmetic changes done to it. They must've put all the money into the new Type S lol.
I remember watching the review for the 2018 accord from you guys and I know for a fact that Honda listened to EVERYTHING you guys said and brought it over to the Civic. Love to see it. Keep up the great reviews guys 🤝
I think one factor also was Honda getting rid of Accord in some markets, so they had to propose some kind of an overlap car to fill the gap. 11gen Civic does that brilliantly.
@Joseabh24 Remember being in school in the 1970s my friends and I talked about how exciting it's going to be in the year 2000 we won't be driving cars we will be flying them. 54 years later, we are still buying tires.
With all due respect to Honda, Toyota is always my choice on a long run, especially with manual. Honda's turbo would worry me. Corolla hatchback manual SE is all what I need.
Hopefully the corolla gr has everything the gr yaris has going for it. The corolla apex edition is pretty cool but besides the manual and color scheme ( I absolutely love the cement grey with bronze accent) the apex isnt really all that different from a normal corolla. I know it seems stupid but I would love a corolla gr apex edition just for the color scheme.
Wow looking at both the Civic and Corolla being driven side by side the difference between them is huge. The Civic looks so much more premium and high end especially in the front. The Civic interior is best in class. Honda is the gold standard.
I've been on Team Toyota all my life. I think the APEX Edition looks sportier but I wouldn't be able to get past that suspension set up. For this comparison, I think the new Civic wins.
@@PatrickRyan150 😮 Honda is a nightmare in general. Poor quality design and assembly. Toyota you just drive and enjoy. Plus the Apex in Shark 🦈 Grey is stunning, flawless exterior design.
I bought a '21 Apex earlier this year. For several reasons, including the wildly harsh ride, I ended up taking it back. If the suspension was softer the Apex would make for a great daily. Sharp car, especially with the LED DRL package. Exhaust sounded great for a 4cyl (not quite as good as Yuri's Fiat, of course!) and wasn't too intrusive. If the suspension was about 20% stiffer than an SE instead of 300% I'd probably still be driving it.
Personally, I like to stick to naturally aspirated engine rather than a turbocharged engine. Nothing wrong with turbocharged cars, but it’s one less thing to go wrong and no turbo lag. And if MPG is close enough, then I prefer the slightly larger engine. Either way, I don’t think you can go wrong with either option. But I would definitely take a look at the new Elantra. That thing straight up looks like a concept car brought to life.
@@dakikmister10 lol right? It’s nice that the compact sedans are getting nicer design, interiors, and tech all around. I actually don’t think I would even bother with a mid-size sedan tbh. It’s either a small car like these or a crossover or SUV for me
I have to say as an owner of the 2018 Civic, I love the exterior look alot better than the new one...which is so basic/generic. Even the corolla looks better here and I used to have a 2017 Corolla!!
*I am almost shocked that they even said they liked anything about the exterior of the Civic. It literally is the worst looking Civic's within the past 6 gens.*
10th gen exterior > 11th gen 11th gen interior > 10th gen But yeah I agree, the styling on the previous model was so much more fun and had more personality. But I guess too many people were making the “boy racer” complaint.
CVT kill's the spirit of the Civic. Tthis car reputation was build on fun, dynamic, and personality. This desigh is nothing but a smaller Accord, witch has not won any price either. The usual buyers of Civic were young, esrly 20's, ...Now they're targeting baby boomers who don't have anough money to buy Accord. Reability is still there, thank god. Dynamic's, they've lost it completely. And it's not a cvt (snowmobile transmission) that will fix it. And if you want fuel economy, go to electric.Of course there is the Si and the type R, but those two total no more than 5% total of there sails. Look, that's just my opinion... I have alot of my friends, who had Civic's in the past, some more than 3 from different generation, and they all agree that it's not a civic but just a smaller Accord...
As a 40+ year old who would love to drive a type R without it looking like something from matchbox, I really hope the new Gen is not only improved but more toned down
I’m surprised both of these cars comes with Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 tires from the factory! They are not the best summer tires, but I was insanely impressed with their winter snow performance. They were very close to feeling like dedicated winter tires, but handle much better in the dry than a winter tire would. I would definitely put them in a top 5 of all-season tire
@@TheStraightPipes yep I would love a comparison between the Mazda 3 and the Civic. Sedan would be great but maybe when the hatchback comes out too? Edit: The Mazda will obviously be better to drive but as a commuter car I'm curious which is a better overall package.
@@diegosoto8620 I love my Mazda3 (current Gen) but I'm pretty sure the Civic will smoke it. The 3 is still more refined but the Civic definitely upped its game.
i must be one of few that like the lane watch camera lol. I can't wait to see what the typeR and Si will look like. might be the eventual replacement for my 9thgen Si
Civic all day hands down! Didn't like it when I first saw it, but it grew on me so much I'm actually planning to purchase one as my first brand new car.
I love your matter-of-fact videos, and you guys are super funny. I have to say, this is an apples to oranges review as every positive comment about the Corolla, or at least most of them, was about it having a stick shift.
FACTS exactly what I preferred when looking and went APEX all day. It’s a nod back to the OG days in the 90’s. Toyota 2.0L NA 6MT will last a lifetime.
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That Honda blind spot camera was so annoying when you indicate but you can turn it off in settings thankfully!
Amazing video as always
I'd take a civic but the styling does kinda look like the Cadillac CT5
Dude anything beats a corolla…
Whose baby is that in the backseat Jakob? 😳😳😳
My future kids are gonna ask my opinions on their first car purchase, and I'm just gonna regurgitate what hear on a straightpipes video
Yo you look funny
@@DB-sd3cw not sure if that's a compliment or insult
They do make all “entry level” cars sound good and help you feel good about buying an affordable car.
@@benhallett1537 they’re so much more enthusiastic as well. They don’t make it seem like it’s their job.
you could've just said repeat instead of "regurgitate". i can't even pronounce the word XD
Honda designers: Hey, let's create the new Civic. OK, let's take the Accord, shrink it 15%, and make it home by lunch. Done.
They made it a long Scion TC
Should ask help from the Hyundai guy's..
It's called the "German efficiency" design.
Corolla looks better in my opinion 😅
It's looks like a jetta & an audi a4 in my opinion. I can see a mixture of a 10th gen accord but definitely more like a German style vehicle.
The only 2 cars to survive the crossover era, keep it Honda and Toyota!
wdym?
@@johnstaker6706 a lot of sedans are being cancelled in favour of an SUV counterpart...
What? There are tons more, the VW golf, Mazda 3, Hyundai i30, Kia Ceed, Skoda Octavia, seat Leon...
@@aadi8568 in the rest of the world yes, but in the USA they arent that many. And even in Europe crossovers are becoming popular. I dont think hatchbacks and cars will die tho cause they handle better and are more elegant!
@@moonsapling ah ok, and yes even here there are a lot more crossovers than before. But I doubt many of these size cars will be cancelled, the ford fiesta is the best selling car in my country (UK)
The new Civic looks like a mid-cycle refresh of the current Accord!
Fun fact, the 2022 has the same infotainment as the current accord
Looks a lot more like the 2015 accord imo
It looks like a rejected accord design.
Looks like a knock off version of one (jk lol)
Well said
They’re advertising all these infotainment features and meanwhile I’m here with a malfunctioning clock in a prelude
But a Prelude is much cooler than both of these though.
The thing is it's yout prelude and it's awesome because you love it, and tgats a fact
When you have VTEC you don’t need to worry about time
@@bryan10444 it’s an Si
Same as the Clock in the CR-V of the same year. There are option to fix it or replace it.
I'm a Toyota/Lexus guy, but I'll take the Honda. Plus it has a better infotainment.
Dude anything is better than the Corolla
The Civic just looks so much more premium. For commuting the Civic looks like a much nicer place to spend time.
@@joespittle1 the civic and Mazda3 are the only real Japanese compact players here
@@blgn3502. Imo the corolla isn’t that bad looking but the styling should have resembled the Camry XSE imo
the only thing that is an eyesore for me in the Civic is the placement of the infotainment
Great video, guys. I would totally choose the Honda, hands-down. I think they did a great job overall, but just not completely sold on the styling yet. By the way, I love the video format you guys used: side by side commentary on the fly.
Honda knocked it out of the park with this gen. Literally nailed it. You can't go wrong with either option though at least if you're going for the base model. Both are so good but the Honda does edge it out this time
1.5L turbo issues.
So happy Honda finally delivered a solid new generation Civic! Feels like it's been 15 years or more since I liked the looks of one.
The lobster claw tail lights were absolutely fucked
12:59
Yuri: *glasses almost fall off, bootlid comes undone, engine drops out, suspension gets left at the intersection*
Yuri: “Apex was okay”
😂
😘
LMAO
That Airpod was holding on for dear life.😂
@@TheStraightPipesYou guys need to be way more critical. If you down play the negatives then you don't have a well rounded review. This is why you should watch @savagegeese instead or in addition, in order to get the real full perspective of these cars.
@@jtland4842 Oh, they already know Savagegeese. They've collabed with Mark in the past. But I do get the feeling that they say everything is good without being critical.
Anyone else notice that the Corollas projectors look like hearts at certain angles?
Love. That's what makes a Subaru, a Subar-
wait
Shieeeet cornering the e-girl market
The Civic hatch will have manual options in the normal trims btw!
i haven't seen the new corolla yet, but i test drove a 2024 civic sport and i gotta say, one of the most comfortable yet affordable cars out there. i'm really hoping to snag one once i get my 2010 insight sold
The battle between the two Japanese rivals goes on. Honda/Acura fan here.
I'll pick the Civic anytime of the week and twice on Sunday!! Just based on your reviews! Thank you guys for your understanding work!!
Why twice though? Civic sooo nice you buy it twice?
Careful! The 2.0 liter turbos still have oil dilution and rear main seal leaks!!! Im assuming the 1.5 arnt very good either. Also the gas milage will be 20 to 30 percent worse on civic also!!
@@michaelallen22212.0 turbos don’t have oil dilution issues, that’s only the 1.5
the new corollas are beautiful. The Corolla Hybrid is decent too with great mpg.
Definitely excited for this new Civic interior. I have the 2019 Civic Hatchback currently, and my biggest gripe is the climate control being partially on the touch screen. Very happy they did away with that.
Why did you consider civic hatch back over the regular civic ?
I think in some places you can’t get it in a sedan form like in the UK and Australia
@@akkiaaa I do have a 10gen sedan currently and can't wait to buy a 11gen hatch. Sedans are not practical at all, I can't even chuck my bicycle in properly. I don't mind hatch smaller cargo volume if I can actually access it way easier. And since 11gen hatch looks almost exactly as sexy as the sedan it's a no brainer for me.
@@pasiutrial I got a '22 civic hatch in boost blue and love it!
@@TobySimone lucky guy. I have to wait for the 2023 I've ordered
I love that they gave the civic a longer front end! I think if they did something like that for the corrolla They’d be really matched! I’m looking forward to the civic being my first car!
The short front of the Camry is what made me decide against it haha, I just don’t like the look of it, the civic looks a lot better imo
Did you ever get it yet
@@RyansReaper yea! I’ve had it since November! I got the CVT sport hatchback! And I’m still obsessed
guff is hangy
I love how at 2:10 hes straight up smiling about doing this as a job for another thirty years. I know I cant imagine doing my job for another 3 with a huge smile like that
The Honda has designed their steering wheel with their history in mind, the hub style reminds me of 70s and early 80s hondas.
Very elegant and simple. It's a departure from a lot of what is currently out there and I think it's going to be a hit.
I feel like the Corolla looks a bit blobby next to the Civic, but other than that I still think it looks good. Great review!
Toyota are the Kings of Blob
Wdym by blobby?
Its the color, the pearl and the silver show her curves off, the apex is overpriced and not a good representative of the new corolla.
Turbo charging is great to downsize engine and cutdown on tax
Personally, Corollas better considering it's NA, strong performance and Toyotas bullet proof reliability
@@Brian-jv8iy yup our 2017 Camry has problems considering it was brand new off the lot. Driveshaft clanks when reversing, bad smelling ac, cheap batteries which left us stranded the day of our flight, problem with the AC again it makes a super loud clicking noise then we have it so the air only comes out in our face so we now have to have it where it fires on our face and feet which now lowers the volume of air that it pushes it happened for no reason and now the radio when on AM/FM it produces a super high pitched noise which bothers us after a couple of minutes of driving.
@@Brian-jv8iy Just about every small car is cheap and shitty. They have to make up for the cheap price tag with income from servicing and less desirable materials. As for Toyota’s being overrated I don’t think that’s true especially compared to its competitors here in North America...
@@jonathan_calixto you got a lemon
@@Brian-jv8iy sounds like some one doesn't own a Toyota, they're anything but shitty or overrated
You can get the Civic with a 2L N/A engine as well.
Never thought i would say this , but :
That civic looks so mature and serious .
Yeah, I'm old too.
@@Piracanto Dont feel bad were all going to get there one day.
And I really like it... I have a 9th Gen Civic, and I like this new 11th Gen Civic, a lot.
So Canadian! no trash talking whatsoever! i love it
Damn, that Corolla actually sounds pretty good for something you have to live with 😳
First time I reved it I was very surprised, sounds really nice
for that price, no
It looks like an egg.
@@veelynn1200 Might be for aero, though Toyota claims a Cd of 0.3 for the Apex...
@@lfox02 0.3 was the drag of my 2006 corolla before I sold it. My 2005 Mercedes E55 has drag of 0.27 cd. New cars are becoming less and less aerodynamic everyday.
You guys went back and forth so many times on what’s your favorite i was so confused but seems like a even win. haha great video !!!
Picking my civic up next week and I’ve never felt so confident on a purchase because of your guys videos, thank you for the great information and certain opinions towards different aspects of the vehicle you guys helped a lot.
Which trim did you get and why? Things you like and don’t like? I’m trying to choose a car right now, kinda stuck between a new civic or slightly older accord
@@KiiDMaGiiKim 1 year late but i also got a brand new civic 2024. I hope this helps to make a decision to you lol
In my case i got a civic sport sedan in meteorite gray color
Things that i like:
its very comfortable,
fun to drive,
you can change between sport mode, econ, normal and just have a fun drive,
in my opinion it feels smoother to drive than the corolla.
Infoentertainement is way better than the corolla, feels more premium also. I think both makes are at the same level in terms of reliability.
Its very good in fuel economy specially if you have econ mode on,
the sport trim comes with leather steeringwheel, and that good looking sport rims
Things that i dont like: i thought the base model would come with blind spot monitors and parking sensors but it doesnt, for the price and with a new generation, 2024 car i thought that would be incluided on the base model or at least on the sport base but no, but also the corolla LE doesnt come with these either so..
The car on exterior looks more mature, maybe some people dont like it, actually if someone that doesnt know that much of cars compare to previous gen civic with this new one he/she will think the old gen is the new one
If you dont care about the parking sensors and blind spot monitor then get the sport version, is way better than the LX and its just 30$ more per month
You guys always execute the most entertaining car reviews hands down.
Great review, you guys helped me make a hard decision. A lot of these reviews on UA-cam get too silly and I get tired of them goofing off and thinking they are comedians when I just want some honest opinions and comparisons.
We are not funny and we know it
As much as I love these two class-winning contenders, I am SICK of these "taxi-cab meter screens" protruding from the dash. I don't like it one iota.
a nice head unit just near the top of the dash is the best type of infotainment. the 1st gen mazda cx-5 is a great example.
@@stephendeben1590 Love A CX-5. Still hate the protruding screens.
It’s easier for OEMs to update so get use to it.
@@AC-ir3od I don’t have to get used to shit. I own a car W/O this impediment. I can still not like this feature however.
@@AC-ir3od Sounds like you just take whatever’s given to you.
The Civic looks way more expensive than it is
Especially the interior. Honda’s almost encroaching on Acura ILX territory lol.
Newer Civic/Accord’s are starting to look more and more expensive as the years come by
@@FlexSZN23 touring with the HDP kit cost more than the ILX aspec
@@FlexSZN23 ikr
@@notthekhajiturlooking4836 That ILX shouldn't be as expensive as it is. It's based on the Civic Si of two generations ago and has only had cosmetic changes done to it. They must've put all the money into the new Type S lol.
No kidding, another 30 years. Look at John Davis @ Motorweek, he's been going for 40 years!
I remember watching the review for the 2018 accord from you guys and I know for a fact that Honda listened to EVERYTHING you guys said and brought it over to the Civic. Love to see it. Keep up the great reviews guys 🤝
I think one factor also was Honda getting rid of Accord in some markets, so they had to propose some kind of an overlap car to fill the gap. 11gen Civic does that brilliantly.
Been waiting for this for so long.
Normal cars ftw
It's fucking awesome that the 86 and the Apex models/names are back in business
man the civic looks leagues better and more mature. Sleek and simple; I love it. this time the corolla looks a little overdone and way too bulbous.
Civic has a bulbous front nose, looks ugly.
Idk the new civic actually looks pretty good. Like I used to hate the design when it got revealed but it actually looks really refined and clean.
Same happened with me and the cyber truck. Hated it at first then it grew on me. Same with the new civic
Far prefer this one to the previous gen. That civic in black with the HPD package is fire.
@@a13xp52 same with their new polar gray paint
Those compact cars are sure getting big.
The new Civic is bigger than the 5th Gen Accord (94-97)
That Corolla exhaust sounded pretty decent honestly
That Honda looks nice, I preferred the previous Corolla design as compared to the new one.
The older front end looked like a fish.
The new Civic is definitely a winner. Good job Honda!
As a Toyota fan, it is starting to get out dated for it's technology, Honda and Mazda are becoming more better now
@@jc_so_riyl Yes but in 20 years the Corolla will be giving that honda and Mazda a jump start on the side of the road.
@@wilchambers1401 I drove a Toyota and no, it’s not that black and white dude lol. Honda makes exceptional cars
@@wilchambers1401bro you are thinking about getting a car because what is going to bring in 2044? Lmao in 20 years literally anything can happen
@Joseabh24 Remember being in school in the 1970s my friends and I talked about how exciting it's going to be in the year 2000 we won't be driving cars we will be flying them. 54 years later, we are still buying tires.
Usually a Toyota guy (well Lexus), but that Civic looks amazing! Agree with the Type-R with a manual would be insane with this base.
the civic just looks like a wannabe luxury car now
@@shaknoori2868So you rather the Civic look like an econobox?
@@terrenceszeto4891 well civic is made to be an econobox. I don’t why they tried this hard to get this “bmw”/“Audi”-ish look
Awh where the “I’m Jakub, and I’m Yuri, and we’re going from point A to point B.” ☹️
With all due respect to Honda, Toyota is always my choice on a long run, especially with manual. Honda's turbo would worry me. Corolla hatchback manual SE is all what I need.
corolla hatchback GR
@@ajaxtv8172 SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!! ;)
Do new Toyota’s still use cables for their transmission connection? Always preferred Honda gearboxes for their tighter shifts
Civic with tune 🤷🏽♂️
@@t0mmy84 Yeah, they do. The Corolla 6mt is good, but with a different linkage system, it'd be much better.
For the first time...I rather the Corolla over Civic
Civic looks better but yeah manual > CVT
No
@@shamazkhan9100 Yes
@@sheldonallen3299 no
@@shamazkhan9100 yes
Hopefully the corolla gr has everything the gr yaris has going for it. The corolla apex edition is pretty cool but besides the manual and color scheme ( I absolutely love the cement grey with bronze accent) the apex isnt really all that different from a normal corolla. I know it seems stupid but I would love a corolla gr apex edition just for the color scheme.
They need to just bring the GR Yaris over.
Wow looking at both the Civic and Corolla being driven side by side the difference between them is huge. The Civic looks so much more premium and high end especially in the front. The Civic interior is best in class. Honda is the gold standard.
Nope😂
I've been on Team Toyota all my life. I think the APEX Edition looks sportier but I wouldn't be able to get past that suspension set up. For this comparison, I think the new Civic wins.
Bought 2022 Civic Sport and sold it and got into Corolla Apex and love it. The service department at the Honda dealership was a nightmare!
@@PatrickRyan150 😮 Honda is a nightmare in general. Poor quality design and assembly. Toyota you just drive and enjoy. Plus the Apex in Shark 🦈 Grey is stunning, flawless exterior design.
I bought a '21 Apex earlier this year. For several reasons, including the wildly harsh ride, I ended up taking it back. If the suspension was softer the Apex would make for a great daily. Sharp car, especially with the LED DRL package. Exhaust sounded great for a 4cyl (not quite as good as Yuri's Fiat, of course!) and wasn't too intrusive. If the suspension was about 20% stiffer than an SE instead of 300% I'd probably still be driving it.
What did you get instead? After you took the apex back
you should’ve read into it. apex has a sport tuned suspension….
Great review. Honda all the way. I own an Accord Sport and I've owned a Corolla. Honda vehicles are much more enjoyable to drive than Toyota.
New fan here, just realized cliche corner is like 15 minutes away from me 0_0
Where's cliche corner I wanna take a spin there
where is it?
@@tbbbo in a collab with Jason from engineering explained, TSP didn't seem like they wanted the location of cliche corner to be revealed
Drop a pin
Most of their filming location are within each other. Discovered CC by accident one day I wanted to find some curvy roads on the way home from work.
Civic rear looks like a VW, not a bad thing if you want a sleeper
I think the rear reminds me 2016ish Hyundai Sonata..
Sleeper? Neither car has any real horsepower.
@@jasony7035 I have a 17 sonata and I thought the same.
i think its more similar to A4 sedan for the rear
After owning a 2016 civic for 3 years with the oil dilution issue in the 1.5L i would go with Toyota every time even though the civic drove better
I wonder if Honda addressed the issue with the 2022.
The 2.0L Civic is a better choice.
@@thundergato84 nope
Corolla all day. Manual option. CVT in the Toyota has a 1st gear cog. And, I think, the Corolla looks really good.
Personally, I like to stick to naturally aspirated engine rather than a turbocharged engine. Nothing wrong with turbocharged cars, but it’s one less thing to go wrong and no turbo lag. And if MPG is close enough, then I prefer the slightly larger engine.
Either way, I don’t think you can go wrong with either option. But I would definitely take a look at the new Elantra. That thing straight up looks like a concept car brought to life.
@@ThatLaloBoy agreed
Literally every mainstream brand has missed the mark on fun cars.
It’s very important that the car insurance price of Honda Civic is twice as expensive as Toyota.
Fake news
I honestly really like the styling of the Corolla with that grey color. Not a bad looking budget car and you can get a manual too so that’s a plus.
Finally a review of something that I might afford 1 day 🤣
Lol foreal my guy. It's to the point where I get excited for these economic a to b cars
@@dakikmister10 lol right? It’s nice that the compact sedans are getting nicer design, interiors, and tech all around. I actually don’t think I would even bother with a mid-size sedan tbh. It’s either a small car like these or a crossover or SUV for me
@@matthewstephens3852yup why I own a RAV4 Hybrid and a Corolla Apex. The perfect duo!
I love how great economy cars are becoming
It is surprising how good and how this cars still gettin better over time. 180 hp in a non sport civic it is really impressive.
I have to say as an owner of the 2018 Civic, I love the exterior look alot better than the new one...which is so basic/generic. Even the corolla looks better here and I used to have a 2017 Corolla!!
i have the 2020 civic sport and i love the exterior but love the interior on the 2022. its beautiful
I have to agree, this new civic.. is sooooo boring.
*I am almost shocked that they even said they liked anything about the exterior of the Civic. It literally is the worst looking Civic's within the past 6 gens.*
10th gen exterior > 11th gen
11th gen interior > 10th gen
But yeah I agree, the styling on the previous model was so much more fun and had more personality. But I guess too many people were making the “boy racer” complaint.
The Civic Hatchback will have a manual. It’s just the Civic Sedan that doesn’t have one
This is correct.
No manual, no purchase for me. Manual gets better gas milage and more reliable.
@@Imleocalm pretty sure modern cvt/automatics get better gas mileage than manuals nowadays
CVT kill's the spirit of the Civic. Tthis car reputation was build on fun, dynamic, and personality. This desigh is nothing but a smaller Accord, witch has not won any price either. The usual buyers of Civic were young, esrly 20's, ...Now they're targeting baby boomers who don't have anough money to buy Accord.
Reability is still there, thank god.
Dynamic's, they've lost it completely. And it's not a cvt (snowmobile transmission) that will fix it. And if you want fuel economy, go to electric.Of course there is the Si and the type R, but those two total no more than 5% total of there sails.
Look, that's just my opinion...
I have alot of my friends, who had Civic's in the past, some more than 3 from different generation, and they all agree that it's not a civic but just a smaller Accord...
@@Imleocalm That's not the case anymore, now CVT and high gear transmissions get better MPG and more faster than the human motion
I love how TheStraightPipes treates us StraightPipers like fam... you've earned my sub, + I love the Civic 22.
🤝
Awesome comparison guys!
As a 40+ year old who would love to drive a type R without it looking like something from matchbox, I really hope the new Gen is not only improved but more toned down
I’m in high school so I love the styling, I mainly just would want a 5th seat and heated seats. Those would be the big downsides for me
love listening to music while I enjoy driving. So glad Honda decided to upgrade to BOSE and replace their own sound system.
I’m surprised both of these cars comes with Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 tires from the factory! They are not the best summer tires, but I was insanely impressed with their winter snow performance. They were very close to feeling like dedicated winter tires, but handle much better in the dry than a winter tire would. I would definitely put them in a top 5 of all-season tire
18:18 - "so where does that leave us for this comparison?" Mazda. It leaves us at MAZDA.
Ok we go to mazda next
@@TheStraightPipes yep I would love a comparison between the Mazda 3 and the Civic. Sedan would be great but maybe when the hatchback comes out too?
Edit: The Mazda will obviously be better to drive but as a commuter car I'm curious which is a better overall package.
@@TheStraightPipes Honda did what Mazda did with the 3, a better/simpler/cleaner design for the interior and exterior.
@@TheStraightPipes drag race them both lol I want to see if my Mazda is faster lol
@@diegosoto8620 I love my Mazda3 (current Gen) but I'm pretty sure the Civic will smoke it. The 3 is still more refined but the Civic definitely upped its game.
I hate so much the Digital gauges can’t believe this dude likes those 🤦🏽♂️
That right camera is amazing on the old civic, it’s like cheat code when ur trying to exit quickly in traffic
Exactly. I have it on my accord and it’s my favorite feature of the entire car
That Corolla trim is lowkey kinda cool.
insanely overpriced though. base price of $30,000 USD is unacceptable for a car that only has 169 horsepower
Now imagine the Type R :0
I bet it will look a lot better than the previous generation model.
@@snakeeyes9246 I hope
Probably they're going for the direction of European beefed up trim style, like m3's with their 3 series
I can't wait to see it
@@snakeeyes9246 I have a feeling its going to be more toned down then last year.
Civic looks waaaay too much like an Accord/Jetta/older 2010 car, from behind. Corolla is definitely nicer looking.
Nah
@Igy E yeah a sexy one lol
I like the look of the accord and Jetta so both look great to me.
@@bryan10444 waoh let's not get ahead of ourselves
Best, most thorough comparison! 👍🏻
Thank you for listening to my recommendation awhile back about child seats! Happy father’s day to all the dads out there!
Correction:
Previous gen civic did have the sensitivity touch door handles.
They are referring to the door lock. It's a button on the previous gen
The corolla’s front raked hood kinda looks like a mid 2000 civic’s
Exactly and it looks hideous asf
It’s ugly
So ugly that it's beautiful
No one's gonna mention how they brought back the "apex" name?...
I love it honestly
Just got my black 2022 honda civic sport yesterday! I’m so happy for it
So glad you guys have metric units for this video.
Cars people can actually buy
1million views
Makes since 😂
*sense
@@HAA0603 maybe meant to say “makes since 1970s” like car makers :)
The Civic has a forehead like a beluga 😂
Yeah, I'm definitely not feeling it. Even the Accord's front looks a bit better...
Totally agree.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, it's ugly in my opinion....
The same thought came through my head 😂
Saw one on the road for the first time the other day. Looks ‘different’ than it does on video…
i must be one of few that like the lane watch camera lol.
I can't wait to see what the typeR and Si will look like. might be the eventual replacement for my 9thgen Si
yup same here.
Bought the 2022 Honda Civic Touring yesterday, I pick it up on Monday. Rides nice and I like all of its options.
17:50 I love that angle you guys got. Really cool!
Civic all day hands down! Didn't like it when I first saw it, but it grew on me so much I'm actually planning to purchase one as my first brand new car.
Same dude saving for a down payment on a hatchback
I would go Civic, it's the more dailyable car which is what you want in this segment but the manual makes it look so much more fun :o
As a new dad I very much appreciate the car seat portion of your reviews now. Keep up the good work boys! 👍🏿
damn, u ruined your life. good luck
Great review guys.
I love your matter-of-fact videos, and you guys are super funny. I have to say, this is an apples to oranges review as every positive comment about the Corolla, or at least most of them, was about it having a stick shift.
Corolla and Civic are the two kids of same age who are always competing with each other... XD
And the Honda Kid always eats the Toyota
@@naveenthemachine the Honda gets better grades the Toyota lands the better job somehow
@@a3-radio well the civic does the job better though
@@naveenthemachine no arguments here, i agree, it's just somehow the Corolla constantly outsells it for some reason
@@naveenthemachine Accord certainly beats the ugly Camry everytime.
Naturally aspirated + Manual transmission will always win over turbo + CVT
No
FACTS exactly what I preferred when looking and went APEX all day. It’s a nod back to the OG days in the 90’s. Toyota 2.0L NA 6MT will last a lifetime.
ya the lower civics now have crazy chassis set up. you can actually have fun fanging it EVEN with the CVT.......blows the mind.
What about 10th gen cvt? I’m thinking of getting a ‘18 or ‘19 hatch, is the cvt in that still fun?
does anyone remember the good old days (10 years ago) when cars looked extremely amazing
The Apex Corolla will be a teenager's pride and joy someday
I’d take the civic, I felt the previous gem was kind of over the top. The Corolla I thought looked great, but I like the mature look of the new civic.
Corolla looks soooo good!
I'd take the corolla apex all day long
Still looks like a Ford focus
@@mikegta14 ok and
Just wait till the si rolls up
Yessir
Same, Civic's design is so bland
Love your fantastic and detailed videos