Flashpoint XPLOR 600 / GODOX AD600 HSS TTL Product Review Part 1
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2016
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Part 1: An initial product review from unboxing through first studio shoot. Find out what works well, what sort-of works, and what doesn't. Also known by the OEM name of Godox AD600, and rebranded as Cheetahstand CL-600X.
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Fantastic. The dilema about the manual is this guy covers things on "setup" that nobody else covers. Thank you sooo much!
Jim, it turns out I was just about to buy that very flash, so it was very timely for me to hear the ins and outs of this particular flash. Thank you Jim both informative and timely for me. I would have been very annoyed to not find the problems you went through. This will be very helpful for many people who buy this flash.
I have the non ttl version. I have it over 3 years now. Best buy ever.
I get tired of people saying the reflector and diffuser are not useful. They ARE if you know how to use them.
So true. But you never hear reviewers saying bad thing about B1 diffuser.
Jim, that flashtube you can handle with bare hand (provided its not hot).
This has a safety glass dome over the flashtube.
While the round flashtube should be handle with glove, cloth or clean after touching it.
Jim.....They're also great with a diffuser on them in small portrait situations. I might have been taking you too seriously, but I keep seeing the same comment about the deflectors time and again. In your defense, I will add....."if the shoe fits, wear it." The lights are great and the HSS capability is priceless!! I have three 600's and two 360's. Indoors and outdoors are no problem with these lights!
The good thing about Adorama's Flashpoint version is all the acessories you get with it and the bag. Those are all extras if you buy the "original" Godox branded version. The screen is also different colours depending on the branding.
You said you don't like using the jog dial to select groups -- no problem, you can change the "operating method" by holding down the CH button for 5 seconds. With the alternate method ("Method 2"), you choose groups by clicking the GR button, then use the jog dial to change the group's setting. I prefer the default "Method 1," but at least you have a choice! This info wasn't in my Flashpoint printed manual, but IS in the downloadable manual available on the Godox website..
ATG & Edward with Godox backing have done it again.
These have put a big dent into Profoto B1, Phottix Indra500, Quantum & Pocket Wizard.
So many beginners, hobbyists and amateurs (claimed pros that are working and shooting at home) can now use their amateur cameras like those SLT-A99v, A7 & A6000 series to get great results of full radio control ATG's TTL and manual light powers.
So good buy to these weak candlelight flashes (600EX-RT, SB-910, HVL-F60M) that always provide harsh lighting.
ATG/CheetahStand/Godox (not spaying paint for camera stores) are not shipping the Sony version to major camera stores until late July.
Very nice and sharp video review, Jim.
Jim, make sure you get the ATG's XP1200 not the XP600 extension head.
A A1 XP2,400 is only available from ATG. And this is what many pros are willing to pay.
I just found out about this Flashpoint unit. Your unboxing review was excellent and very informative. Thanks.
Great review Jim, thank you
Thank you so much for the tutorial, I have been driving myself crazy trying to figure out how to change the flash power down to 1/256 on my transmitter..finally, I found the answer!
I started TTL hss with Godox tt685 and this one will be my next one!
great video
Jim thank you for the very useful tips! I just purchased one of these lights to go with my Ad360ii's and a pair of V860ii's that I really like. Figured I would go with one bigger light and it looks like this with its modeling lamp will fill the void for a battery powered light in low light. No more carrying around LED panels to light with. Thanks again!
I just ordered my XPLOR 600 TTL with the R2 Wireless system. I'm excited to be able to use this on my Sony camera. Great review. Glad it works well with TTL.
Awesome! Looking forward to it.
Good job explaining this thing.
Fantastic review with excellent detail about use of the strobe. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for the info on the modelling light. Couldn't find it anywhere else.
Thanks for doing this video. I found it quite helpful.
Thank you !!!!! Great video. I was about to get the Prophoto or this one and you make my day. I go with this ONE
Iram Rolon same here. I found the profoto to expensive as this would be my first "non speedlight" 👍
Very nice review. Very informative and honest. And good to know that my GODOX X1 (sony trigger) can still work with the adorama branded Xplor 600 and sill do HSS and have TLL.
The "fix" with the clips didn't work because they are plastic. Use a small furniture sticky pad (thin) placed under the slot where keys are inserted. the plastic tabs will never stay in place when pried up. The "pads" will support a 48" Octobox without any play...and will not loosen.
Jim, do you find that this strobe is a little loud as compared to other strobes?
Thank you, you saved the day, i bought an Xplor 600 with an R2 on ebay and seller did not send any owner manuals......appreciate your time and teaching
Hi will the explore 600 work with the YONGNUO YN-E3-RT transmitter?
Great review and it's interesting with the modelling light. We have the Pixapro version over here and I expect it works the same way.
Hello.....do I need to set the same number from the strobe and the remote at the same digits?
so this strobe is the same one as Godox AD600BM and the Cheetah Light CL-600X 2.4G X System?
Jim, I am planning on purchasing the impact C stand that you recommended for my Flashpoint xplor 600. Can you explain how to mount the mono light to the arm and the use of the baby pin you suggested to purchase. Thanks for you help.
Great, no-bullshit, review - thank you :)
+Jim Setzer ... There is no version that carries the "Bolt" name, (TTL or Manual). Adorama is the only US Retailer, authorized to sell the TTL version. Outside the US, the TTL version may only be sold by Godox, (the Manufacturer).
Loved the review and found it quite helpful as I just bought my first unit. Would have been helpful to go through the R-2 transmitter functions as well.
The strobe doesn't get that hot and its a dome glass on top of the strobe. But some domes are UV coated and a good idea to use clean hands or something to hold it, (dont let it slip!).
But its not like a halogen bulb and will not effect the heat. Thanks for an informative review. Nice to know about some things you experienced.
Good stuff!
I had problems syncing it sometimes A ch1 others ch5 it doesn’t work with eos M3, I tried. So using it with my 6D.
Here's another poorly-documented quirk: You mentioned about the firmware update to keep the modeling lamp from switching off when you press the test button on the transmitter, but after updating the firmware you'll find that it switches off the recycle beeper instead! No worries, it's not a bug -- it's caused by custom function 08 on the transmitter, which turns the beeper on or off. By default it's set to "off" (why???) so all you have to do is set it to "on" and your beeper will keep beeping. This is a capable unit, but some of the default settings Godox chose seem very weird!
hi jim thanks for video
i have a question
i wanna buy godox ad600 its my first flash what do u recomend... ttl or manual of this flash to buy?
Hi, great video! A question, I have a Nikon D800. Can I use my Nikon sb700 TTL speedlights at the same time as the Flashpoint Xplor 600 with the R2 TTL transmitter and recivers?
Can you plug the battery in and use it as a plugged in strobe in studio or is it battery only like the B1?
Does the transmitter allow you to put another trigger on top of it? Just trying to figure out how to trigger the Flashpoint and an Einstein without using slave...
Hi Jim, could you please tell me does the battery charging adapter supports 220v power line? As I live in Asia, we have got power supply with 220v. Not 110v. I'm planning to order one from Adorama. Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the review. What is the name of the stand you use?
Hi. Great video. considering the price of profoto b1 what advantage it have over this strobe light or Einstein 640?
and how good the hss is on godox 600 compare to other two strobe lights that I mentioned.
Do you notice any color/temp shift going into HHS. I just bought one and tried it out today, it seems like any image above sync speed gives a magenta color.
@Jim Setzer, do you have to use their remote trigger/transmitter setup? I normally use the Phottix Odin system which has been really nice. I have always used several TTL Metz speedlights for my setups but I really need something to overcome the sun during midday. I was hoping to keep my current Phottix without having to buy an additional and potentially unnecessary Flashpoint transmitter system. Also, how do the transmitters/receivers plug into the light? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
Hi Jim. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. How are the recycle times?
Thanks Jim
Can the yongnuo yn622c-tx transmitter that i use to trigger and control the power of my canon speedlites can be used to control the power of AD600 or AD360 ?
I wish so ... else another transmitter i will have to buy ...
Thanks Jim for this video. I’m looking to purchase this soon!! Thanks for your tips! Esp. the modeling light issue. Speaking of...HOW was the output on the modeling light?
Jim Setzer thanks sir!!!!
Thank You Sir
Jim
how many shots can you get out of one battery & what color temp is that rated at?
Do you have to buy anything extra to mount the moonlight at the end of the boon? I ask because I like to buy the very same stand. Thank you on this awesome video.
Thanks Jimbo!!!
Jim, are you using this trigger with any other flashes? I have the streaklight 360's, it'd be nice if that trigger worked with those as kickers or modifiers. Really interested in this new setup. Also, still having issues with the S mount? all my modifiers are S.
do sekonic product can fire godox units?
How can I combine godox strobes with none godox flashes? I am considering getting one, but how can i sued them with my existing flashes? I use nikon flashes with phottix radio transmitters.
What stand is that? I'll be getting the strobe soon (the Cheetah version) and want a strong stand for it.
I was wondering if I can use canon speelite 580ii with the Flashpoint xplor TTL?? otherwise, how can I sync them because I would like to use the speedlite as a back light.
You could put the 580II in optical slave mode and it will fire when it sees the Xplor go off. But it can't be included in any TTL calculations. Or, you could pick up an R2 Receiver and put it on the 580 II shoe then you'd have more control (TTL, power level, etc.) from the R2 Transmitter.
hi.does this flash more than once in ttl mode?mine dont.also how do i know if mine has sony support built in to flash because i bought the sony one from adorama.
+Jim Setzer im using the trigger. i think the preflash is so fast i cant see it. im sure now that its got sony support because ut has an s beside the wireless symbol in the light. i was trying to use the wireless flash setting on my camera and it wasnt acting right but if my camera is set to fill flash everythibg is cool.
Hi Jim, nice review...I've just bought the Sony a7r mark 2, I'm tempted to get the Godox ad600 with HSS AND TTL, as its available here in n the uk at a good price...will not his work with my camera well for location HSS shoots with th Godox x1 trigger? I've been looking for advice but can't find any info..hope you can help me ..thanks again
Hi. I'm a newbie to studio stobes. I've been leaning towards buying Einstein/Alienbee strobes till I watched this video. Why would someone pick a Godox AD600 vs Einstein/Alienbee? Is it possible to power down the modeling light with AD600? Would AD600 be good for outdoor mid-day photography? Thank you.
Can you operate this flash with the power cable or just with the batteries?
Jim Setzer Thanks
Great video. I just got mine yesterday. I was wondering when you charged yours for the first time did you have the battery connected to strobe while charging? I've had mine charging for a hour now discounted from the strobe and still no green battery indicator lot up yet. Thanks
Jim Setzer Thank you for the reply. My battery end up being defective. Adorama has me waiting to see if they are going to replace it.
Jim Setzer They have me the run around saying they needed pictures of proof. after sending they said allow 48 hours. I waited 4 days and had to call a few times. finally on the 4th day. I said I was going to just go to UA-cam and put a video of defective item and let every photography blog know about the situation. immediately they offered me a 75 dollar gift card and sent the defective battery to me with one day shipping.
Thanks for this review!! Is the modeling light bright enough to use it for lightpainting? Not something everyone does, but it would be nice as an added bonus. I have no idea how bright something like that is. Best, Mark
Jim Setzer thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I just ordered one! maybe a bit too early for my level of flash experience. But it gives me something new to work at 🤓 happy Holidays Jim!
These new strobes make my Alienbees, and Photogenic Studio Max III's seem like dinosaurs ! With TTL, HHS and Multi, these things work more like speed lights than strobes. I remember when Flashpoint/Godox first came out, I tended to avoid them despite the very attractive price, because they had not been time tested. Now not one day goes by without somebody posting something about a Godox product. It reminds me of when Yongnuo first came out, same thing. Although the features of this Godox flash seem very attractive, one has to wonder how many times one would use them in a studio, especially a small studio ?
Thanks Harry. These continue to be my studio workhorse strobes, 5 years since I bought my first one. I very rarely need a full power pop, so a battery charge usually lasts a few days of shoots.
Hi Jim, I am looking at purchasing these momlamps, hopefully you can answer this wuestion for me please, when shooting in manual mode can you still use the high speed sync at 8000 sec, please advise and great video.Thank you Mark
Hi Jim thanks for the quick response I run a Canon 7D which goes to 8000 sec. The other question that I hope you may nbe able to answer is that are the heads compatible in Australia as we use 240v? Loved your video on the flashpoints
Thanks
Mark for Brisbane Australia
Hi Jim thanks very much once I have the finance I would like to purchase 2 of the heads they look awesome. Thanks for all your assistance it is greatly appreciated.
mark
I have the Flashpoint Xplor 600 TTL R2 strobe along with the Godox X1 T trigger. Everything works fine except the TTL compensation. I am not able to adjust that from the trigger itself. I have firmware version 2.2 on the strobe and it does not give me an option of choosing sony, just canon and nikon. Not sure if this is the issue. Can you tell me if your trigger can control the TTL compinsation. I'm having such a hard time figuring this out! Thank you and awesome videos! I subscribed!
Hi Joe. First, on the strobe, the setting for Nikon/Canon is only for when you are using optical slave mode so the strobe can understand those signals coming from the on-camera flash. It makes no difference when using radio communications, since X1 normalizes all of the different camera protocols. Since you said Sony, I'll assume you are using the X1 S trigger. Yes, you can compensate TTL. Press the GR button to select the desired group, set the mode to TTL with the MODE button then use the dial to set the amount of TTL compensation. Press the GR button again to apply. Hope this helps. The Godox manuals are translated from Chinese and very hard to follow. Download the manual from Adorama. It's not perfect but explains most things better.
Jim Setzer thank you! I figured it out! It wasn’t changing on the strobe itself but it was putting out more flash power when making TTL adjustments form the trigger! So atleast it’s working. Thanks for the reply!
Hey Jim, what modifiers are you using, Bowen? If not, what adapter did you get to accommodate your modifier?
+Jim Setzer great thanks!
does the r2 transmitter work with the godox ttl hss flashes as well? Or does it only work with the flashpoint series
+Jim Setzer thanks!
What stand is that plz
is the flashpoint allowed on an Airplane
How much light power does it have. can it overpower the sun
Hi really nice review. I've got the bolt 22 and I want to purchase this one. will this godox controller be ok to run both or will i need to run one as a slave?
Thank you
Can you lock in the TTL exposure on the mono light (FV lock) and adjust the output of light up and down in 1/3 stops? Thanks in advance
Can you test the FV lock with your Nikon camera and let me know if it works? That would help me make and intelligent buying decision between the TTL mode VS the total manual model. Thanks for the quick replay.
On my Nikon bodies I customize the setting on the FN button using custom setting F4 for flash value lock. I can lock in the flash output by pressing the FN button for off camera wireless flash utilizing my Phottix Odin HHS system and also adjust the flash output up and down 1/3 stops wirelessly on mutiple Nikon SB800 flashes and it will maintain the same flash output until I unlock the flash lock by pushing the FN button on said Nikon camera body. I just want to confirm that this feature will also work using the wireless trigger control unit on top of camera for the Flashpoint Xplor 600 TTL mono-light and maintain FV or flash value lock?
one question is confusing me: is the ( Flashpoint Xplor 600 ) & ( Godox AD600 ) is same flash light and same brand ?? if no is they both TTL ?
Hi Jim,
can you tell me how big dimension also the weight that bundle?
Ok thanks Jim
Hi Jim, could you tell me please how long does it take to charge a battery of Flashpoint XPLOR 600
I actually found the answer from adorama.com
- Recharges in just 4 hours
Just went to your website and see that you're in Virginia Beach... Used to live here...
Please anybody can tell me how to fix or what to do with the godox show to me error E1 after that on and off than dosent power again please anny sulution?
Unfortunately, that error requires you to send it to a service center for repair.
Hi,
I notice you said (0:15) that it's available on BandH.com. Can you pls give me the link or the exact name they are referring. I searched it in B&H but I couldn't find it.
B and H rebrands some Godox products under their Bolt line. They were supposed to pick up the AD600, but that obviously never came to pass. Sorry for the confusion.
Next time "Please" install the flash bulb before install the battery. if it discharge as you install the bulb. That could become a hour long CPR video. Thank you for the informative video.
Hey, I subscribe. I just received an Expore 600 TTL with R2 trigger for Sony. I have the camera set to Wireless flash. Shutter 160 or below. Here is my problem: The flash only syncs with the iAuto mode for my a7R2 or a6300. In any other mode the flash fires, but not during the time the shutter is open. Any ideas?
Thank You very much. Fill Flash works.
I have 4 Flashpoint Xplor 600 and 2 flashpoint speedligh†s and am very happy with them. I would give them all 5 stars. Is there any way to turn on the lights from the strobes and the speedlights and de-activate one or more from the R2 Transmitter?
If you are talking about the modeling light, you can turn them on/off from the R2 trigger by double tapping the [CH] button. Unfortunately, it broadcasts this to all lights on the trigger's channel so you can't select them individually.
What I meant was †o turn on/off the strobe itself. From your answer I gather that this cannot be done
Correct. You have to turn them on/off on the strobe body. But if you just leave them on with sleep enabled (essentially what you're asking) I'm guessing the battery would last a week or more waiting for you to wake it up.
Is the firmware that is on the Godox site the same firmware needed for the Xplor 600 and the transmitter.
So I purchased the Flashpoint Xplor 600 TTL model and I'm unable to get my computer to recognize the micro usb port. I want to flash the firmware from 2.2 to 2.3 and when I plug in the usb cable I don't get the USB confirmation sound. However I do get the USB confirmation sound when I plug in my R2 transmitter. I think I have a bad USB port on the Xplor 600B TTL. I'm going to send it back if I don't hear back from Adorama if I'm doing something wrong. I have flashed several other speed-lights ie. TT865 and V860II using the G1 software successfully.
Yes I did all those things you mentioned. I even tried different USB cables and different computers one running Win7 & Win10 and nothing was being detected. I sent the strobe back to Adorama today. I will order a new one once I get my refund. Can you point me to where or who is saying there are issues with the firmware ver 2.3 for TTL model. Thank you so much for replying.
Thnx Jim, I already took the plunge and installed firmware ver 2.3 on my Xplor 600B and all seems to be good. Thanks for the update.
I've been wanting to get some Einsteins for high speed sync. Any reason I should go with something else instead?
The advantages the Einsteins have are 1) made in the US - PCB service is excellent 2) T0.1 time of 1/13000" if freezing very fast motion is your thing. If you get the Adorama XPLOR 600s, they will have excellent warranty in the US as well. 2) The T0.1 time at 1/256th power is 1/10000" so pretty darn fast in their own right. 3) the radios are completely built in not like the dorky plug on top module of the Einsteins. 4) much less expensive, and 5) battery fired - I can't say how useful this is both on location and in-studio (less wires to trip over).
The Einsteins don't have HSS.
I just received my Xplor 600's from Adorama. Does anybody else have a problem with the Bowen's mount being super loose? I'd like to know how to fix it.
Jim Setzer Yes I see where you addressed it. Also saying "time will tell". I would just like to find a way to make a more snug fit with my modifiers. If you ever hear or see one maybe you could address it to the public! I'm a subscriber!!!
What is the stand brand and model that you're using?
Impact Century stand with turtle base from Adorama
HOW LOUD IS THE READY BEEP?
as long as its louder than the rovelight
I've always liked photography as a hobby but just recently decided to take it to the next level. Made an investment:
• Canon 5D Mark IV, Canon 70-200 2.8L Lens
• Couple of Canon 600EX-RT II Speedlites with Canon ST-E3-RT Trigger
• Now expecting a new Flashpoint XPLOR 600 HSS TTL
QUESTION:
Will I be able to use my Canon ST-E3-RT Trigger to trigger the XPLOR? Or will the XPLOR's R2 Trigger, trigger my Canon Speedlites?
Please advise and THANK YOU for your insight!!!
Thank you very much!
Very nice review ! Were did you get the stand? Subscribing ✌🏻
+Mike guitar Thanks! they are from B&H. There is a link in the description.
Images by Design thanks!
I have 4 Flashpoint Xplor 600 Strobes R2. When I press the test button on the Transmitter all strobes fire but when I press the shutter release on the camera to take a picture, the flashes don’t fire. I have checked a lot of video tuts and no one mentions this problem. Here are my settings. Chanel 1 on strobes and the transmitter, all strobes on wireless radio, groups used A, B and C, Transmitter switch on and Mode is M on all strobes and transmitter. What am I not doing right? Please advise.
Seems like a physical connection problem. Does your camera show that a flash is attached?
The R2 is securely mounted on the D810. Where would I find out if the camera sees the flashes.
In the viewfinder or on the Info back display you would see a lightning bolt arrow icon that shows the camera recognizes that a flash is installed on the hot-shoe.
You put your finger right on it. It's a connection problem. I put the R2 transmitter on the camera and turn on the flash, press the release and nothing happens. I don't see the Lightning bolt either. I put my SB910 on the camera the lightening bolt shows and flash fires. This proves that it is not the camera.
Adorama has very good customer support. If it's under warranty they will replace it (probably just send you another one) and if it's out of warranty, they may agree to sell you a new one at a reduced price.
I wouldn't remove or insert the flashtube with the battery attached.
Does the remote some with the strobe?
Devon, Adorama has bundles if you need a trigger. Otherwise you can buy them separately and there are now three different models of triggers you can buy: The original R2/X1 T that I show in this video, the R2/X1 Pro, (Reviewed at ua-cam.com/video/Hxg4Uu_K1h0/v-deo.html) and the new R2Pro Mk II (Adorama only) (Preview at ua-cam.com/video/BKeGHaGRKLo/v-deo.html with a full review being recorded now.)
Can I use a Godox Xpro remote with this unit?
Yep. And the new XPro mk II
@@ImagesbyDesignthanks man, I did got both 😊
So how does this compare to the Indra 600?
Thanks for the reply. Yep a AC power option would be nice.
What is the fastest T1 speed for the ad600? Indra's are also around 850$ now I guess?
Yeh but the indra does 1/15000th t1. Which is a big difference if you like to freeze water/motion. The 1/10000th is almost as fast as the HSS itself.
"Intended for photographers on the road, the Indra500 TTL Battery Powered Studio Light from Phottix offers a design driven by portability, flexibility and power. Both power cord-free and sync cord-free, the Indra500 is also hassle-free thanks to the Odin receivers for Nikon and Canon cameras built-into every unit.Phottix starts with a flash head with all the qualities of a studio flash such as 500Ws of power, adjustable from 1/128 to full power over an 8-stop range. Recycling time is 0.1 to 2 seconds with the included Li-ion polymer battery and 0.1 - 1 second with the optional AC adapter. Action-stopping flash durations as short as 1/15,000 (t.1) sec. are possible at reduced power settings for freezing splashes or peak-moment sports shots."
seems a bit complicated. I've been using the profoto's. They really simplified everything and the hss/ettl is even easier then the native canon flash with canon body.
The battery is 180.00 bucks wow.
True but this battery will shoot all day, and now after 2 1/2 years they are still going strong. So well worth it. The current deals on this strobe for the holidays are insane.
This light is Not compatible in HSS with older Nikon cameras.. SMH..
What model did you find incompatible?
From the Godox manual: Nikon Single-lens Reflex Digital Cameras:
D4S, Df, D4, D810A, D750, D810, D610, D600, D800/D800E, D700,
D300S, D300, D7200, D7100, D7000, D5500, D5300, D5200, D5100, D5000,
D3300, D3200, D3100, D3000, D90, D200, D100, D80
Images by Design what about the d500?
Anyone else notice the ouija board in the background???
you spend a lot of time telling us to not use the cheap light stands, but you wont take a couple of secs to put a link to the stand and boom you have... :(