Best battery-powered studio strobe? | Pixapro CITI600 TTL HSS / Godox AD600 REVIEW
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Easily the best video I’ve seen on this light. Awesome work.
Thanks! :)
Good review. Thank you for your time. Appreciated!
As ever Nitsan, this is a great video and uber-informative. I have a load of Bowens heads that I'm going to offload for this, I rarely use a fixed studio anymore and everything is mobile or clients offices.
Most of my modifiers are Pixapro / Godox. I have a couple of LS1s units and other Aputure battery lights which I use with softboxes thanks to your reviews.
thank you!
Awesome. :)
I have the Godox non TTL version AD600BM which is so nice I am hesitating to use it in my studio for mixed daylight pictures. I have top of the line Broncolor which is great for high powered set ups but when you need just a touch of flash these units are great. I will likely buy more Bowens s mount reflectors, and start using these more than the studio flash as they are fast, incredible power range, and the accessories inexpensive.
Well reviewed thanks. I have the manual version with the extension. Fantastic unit. Probably not as good as a profoto in regards to consistency in WB but really good value battery powered flash. I wish they would just brand them all Godox though.
Great video! Subscribed!
Very happy with this review! You did a wonderful job. I would also like to express your 'fast flash' / 'boring' part was actually interesting, to see how quickly the unit can recycle power and get on to the next shot. I guess anyone who hasn't shot people portraits 'on-location' and had to waste several photos where the lights didn't fire because of lack of power would find it boring .... I see it as solution to my past experienced problems. Once again, thank you!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
It's called Strobepro 600ii in Canada. Just received two and can't wait to start using them.🙂
Great review. Thank you.
Excellent review.
Thanks :)
Hello! where do I find your link as to the trigger operation please? I must be blind! can/t seem to find it. Thank you!
i don't know if you already got the answer but, the Godox XT32C 2.4G trigger uses a USB receiver called XTR-16 and those can be plugged in the usb port on top of the strobe, i've tested them and they work great.
I bought the Flashpoint XPLOR 600 the same strobe and it is amazing. For the money it can not be beaten.
Yeah it is really dang good.
Great review! How many flashes would this give if you turn down the output to say 1/2 or 1/4 power? 1000 and 2000 flashes, or does it not work this way?
Hey. Sorry I'm not sure how many flashes.
great review, if you are more into portable speedlights like you mentioned, take a look at the godox 360 mkii, would love to see you do a review of that one. I am torn between the 360 and the 600 atm. thanks again
Thanks. Yeah I saw that they released one. Good thing I sold my mark I, as I prefer the newer trigger system. :)
the Godox Strobes QS and QT triggers to wireless receivers that are USB enabled. That's what that port is for. Quite reliable I might add. :D
Great video review! Thank you. However, I'd like to know is this same as the Flashpoint Xplorer that is also based on godix 600 but not TTL HSS? Could please check on that for me? Thanks.
Looks the same to me but I've not used it to compare.
+Nitsan Simantov thank you. The LED modelling lamp in the pixio light what's the CRI value please and could you shoot video comfortably for interview setups? Thanks again.
I don't know the CRI. I have a separate video in my playlists about using this light for video. There is a white balance test in there, and also brightness examples, etc.
here is the link ua-cam.com/video/1H9Qxo7a-tM/v-deo.html
Great review!
To achieve HSS, does this unit use a series of pulses? Also, can you connect a Canon ST-E3-RT to the trigger's hotshoe to control Canon Speedlights?
Hi
Yes sometimes this would do a pre-pulse before the shot, but I'm not sure if that was for HSS or TTL or both. My guess would be that it's for TTL.
And not sure about adding the Canon trigger. You might need to ask Pixapro or someone who has both.
lol your reviews are so damn funny. 'Don't drop your bulb on the glass' DINK as the bulb clinks against the glass hahaha. No but seriously Nitsan love your channel and your videos. Question, will this work with the XT1 controller from Godox? It's basically the EXACT same thing in design, but I wasn't sure as I was gonna buy the Godox AD600BM but now that I just saw this video i've decided against it and am considering the pixapro... UPDATE: I just realized your US links point to the Godox AD600BM so I'm assuming this is the US version of the PIXAPRO. right?
LOL thanks glad you like my vids. :D
Yes it works with my Godox X1 trigger.
Pixapro is a UK version. As RJ said I think Flash Point is a US version.
So yes definitely going with a local one is best, as you get the best support.
Godox, it's that battery that does it for me. No more power packs. Convenience = use more often.
Yeah I agree. I have the same thing with so many items, like my cordless tools.
the USB port is for the godox controllers FT16 and XT16 which syncs using the usb
+Eccentrus thanks
I have the manual version and considering getting another. Any good reason to get the TTL over the Manual?
I've only had the TTL one. It works wonderfully, but if you don't need TTL then I guess go for the normal version to save some money.
Hi Nitsan great video bro. I bought my AD600 in Amazon and I got a question... when I shoot in HSS with my nikon D610 I'm always watching a strip of light on the lower edge of the sensor and I don't know why, I have used 1/4000 and 1/2000 with different apertures and nothing, something is happening with the last curtain I think, but it has happened to you or someone else?
Hmmm.. I've not had that with this light.
I've never shot on Nikon. Maybe try different front/rear curtain settings on both. Maybe different lens. Also different cam if you have one, to see if the issue is in the light or the camera.
Could be something else though so best to ask the company. Pixapro might be able to help in English better than Godox.
oh also try updating firmware on cam, trigger and light.
If your getting a strip something is not set right
Hi, thanks. Other test haba find up to 300k color temperature variations. In this review you did not got into the actual parameters of the flash (including output consistency , color balance when shooting multiple times , color balance and power , trigger range etc) m. Are you planing another review ?
Hi
I don't have time to go so in-depth with it.
Also personally those things don't make any difference for what I'm shooting, so I never bother testing them in my flash reviews.
Nitsan Simantov Ok. So be it, in any case thanks for the features review.
hi thank u for your video. i am wodnering why it doesnt have manual controling with ttl system together? as i know in ttl we cannot control exposure to teach to students! however, are you recommending ttl or manual one? and why technically?
The TTL version has both TTL mode and manual mode. This version costs more.
The manual version does not have a TTL mode.
Nitsan's ManlyStuff great! what is the exact model number of ttl?
Oh its the one that you are introducing here in this video! Thank u
Do you know if the godox Xpro trigger works with the Neewer NW600BM; Is the same as the Godox AD600 right? Thanks
I've used the Pixapro lights with Godox triggers, and Godox lights with Pixapro triggers, so if I'm not mistaken the various rebrandings should be cross-compatible. I can't be sure though.
Nitsan Simantov Thanks for the quick
response.
Is there any compatibility with Fuji cameras? Specially the Xt-2.
I did not see a version of the trigger for Fuji, so my guess is no TTL or HSS. So if you go for the non-TTL version of this light (to save some money) with a trigger that works with your camera then it should work fine, and manual adjustment from the wireless trigger should still work well. (I'm assuming your camera has a hot shoe with a normal connection.)
Hey! When using TTL, would you need to put the camera in spot-metering mode?
Not that I know of
Thanks for the reply Nitsan. Just not sure how the strobe can balance ambient light... would you expose for the background and allow the strobe to expose the subject correctly? Just wondering what the difference in procedure is between manual and TTL. How would you go about creating an evenly lit HSS shot outdoors with TTL?
ahhahahha i had to laugh when he smacked the bulb on the table after saying be careful
Is there a Multi Flash mode for quick succession shots?
yes. i'm sure it's in the video somewhere.
hello, is the Pixapro CITI600 TTL HSS & Godox AD600 TTL same flashes ??
Yes both made by Godox. I've not used the Godox one to see if there are any small differences. Basically depends where you are. In the UK you'll get the best customer service if you go with a Pixapro one.
Do these lights both work with the Cactus V6II ? Please say yes.
I have no idea. I would guess that they don't.
If you need to change, you can sell the older ones on ebay I guess.
Yes & No.
ATG said, yes. You will need ATG/Godox/Canon EX II/Nikon supported TTL master/slave flash on the Cactus V6II.
Are you using beginner or amateur camera?
Semi pros: 5D Mark IV and D800 series need firmware from ATG.
Not many shooters have pro cameras when using Cactus.
It will be compatible with following cameras:
* ATG Canon EOS-1D Cr
* ATG Canon EOS-1D X Mark IIr
* ATG Nikon D5r
* ATG Sony SLT-A99r
* ATG Sony SLT-A99 IIr
* Canon EOS-1D X Mark II
* Nikon D5
Do you know any Europe retailer for this kind of Flash? Doesn't matter if Pixapro or Godox, but i'd love to have an european shop so i can pay with euros.
mikhub hi there. you can find it in Amazon UK. i am sure you can get it on Amazon eu too. good luck
Whoa cool! But wait wait wait is that battery allowed to be carried on the plane? What if I want to travel with it? It has a large battery, is it alright to bring it through a flight?
I had a quick look on google and it appears to be fine.
Obviously you would need to ask your airline.
I looked up about it too just now and it seems we're fine as long as the Wh rating is below 100, which these batteries are, fortunately. And yes, maybe each airline made a unique additional rule too. Thanks a bunch!
hi again, 1. for small studio do you think its enough to sync this model with other 2 Godox speedlight? 2. for spot light (for using as back light or head light specially if i want to use coloured gel, what should i use from Godox? pls advise.
Hi
Yes I think you could use this with two speedlights and get great results. (I do something similar with my video lights, one big pixapro and 2-3 small aputure lights. I have many videos showing this in my favourites playlist.)
I would use the big one with a big softbox and the smaller ones as they are or with other diffusers, for example you can get snoots that will point the light from the speedlites into a spot. Some of these come with gel attachments too. This isn't a must, in most situations the snoot isn't needed for a back/hair light, just use the zoom function of the speedlight.
If you want to use the big godox as a spotlight with gels, I have a review about a bowens attachment that does that. See my lighting playlist.
For my small studio Aperture LED or something like that is too much! Snood on speedlight is possible you are right but i want to know is there any small continues light from Godox that i can use it for background or head light?
Yes godox make continuous lights and yes you can use them together with a strobe if you want.
In my video above, the studio shots that have back and hair lights are done with aputure 160 led lights at the back.
Nitsan Simantov ok finally I bought it, with extra speedlight and new AD200. Now I'm wondering (1) why I didn't buy profoto b2 kit with almost same price which is quite enough for my small studio as well as on location! (2) its very heavyweight to attach with a little small screw to be used as lighting with beauty dish or get worse and dangerous if i want to put it up (top of model in studio) I believe its not safe at all! Would u pls answer my first question instead of me to be convinced for my investment?! Also advise me how to attach it safely to my Avenger boom stand? Cheers
Hey. As far as I can see the Profoto B2 is about £1500 and is a similar weight. Looking at specs online:
Profoto B2: 1.6kg generator + 0.7kg head = 2.3kg
Godox AD600: 2.66kg
So if you want the weight lower, you could get the head extension for the Godox. The extension head is very lightweight.
can the extra receivers xt1 trigger sync other brand flashes ?
They do make receivers that should be able to trigger most flashes when used with these transmitters. I have not tried these separate receivers. I would guess HSS and TTL wouldn't work with a different brand of flash.
Thank you
How long have u been using it? is it reliable in medium or long term? Thanks
I've had it for about 3 months, but didn't use it a lot as I was busy on a video project.
Pixapro have a 2 year warranty and they are excellent with customer service so if there's an issue you can get in touch with them.
Jason Lanier (search for his channel) has been using it since it came out.... 6 months at least.... and he acts like it's the best thing ever.
Godox 600b ttl or pixapro citi 600 ttl which one is best suggest me sir plz i very confused
Godox is the factory, Pixapro just puts their name on it and sell it from the UK.
With Pixapro you get service from a UK company. Much better than ordering from China.
Well, good morning sunshine :)
Boker tov.
enyone knows if i can use this unit with a hasselblad 500 c/m?
I'm guess it should connect in some way. Hot shoe usually.
Of course TTL and HSS won't work.
It looks like Godox/Flashpoint etc. They are all the same I suppose.
Yeah, Godox is the manufacturer in China, and the other two are US and UK companies that have versions made with their own name.
As far as I know they are the same proudct, but best to go with a local company for better customer support.
does it work with mirrorless?
you need a compatible camera to get TTL and HSS. Canon, Nikon and Sony are the ones I know work. Mirrorless and DSLRs both work, but of course best to check if you camera is compatible. For example some older Sony cameras have a totally different hot shoe.
In asia, pixapro is godox.. they are same
Yeah I know, I spoke about it in the video. Just so there's no confusion for others reading this, Pixapro is a UK supplier, Godox is in China.
The LCD display is showing that 1/128 power provides 1/8130 duration and 1/1 power provides 1/220 t0.1 duration
That's a short duration at low power and a long duration at high power, which is as it should be (the opposite of what you said).
Old-school flash units controlled flash power by varying the amount of energy they stored in the capacitor and always dumped the capacitor to empty. But by that method, although the peak brightness was lower, the total durtion down to t0.1 was the same.
The fact that the t0.1 duration of this light shortens at lower power tells us that the flash unit is actually cutting off the capacitor dump rather than just filling the capacitor to a lesser level. Small flashes have done this for decades, but it's been only recently that sufficiently sturdy circuitry to do that has been available for studio-sized units.
This is to be expected with a decently designed modern HSS unit--it's saving power for repeated flashes.
Yes. Low power = shorter duration.
I don't believe I said otherwise.
At 8:57 I show that at the lowest power we get the shortest duration.
Everything after that is just an explanation of the difference between T0.5 measurements and T0.1 measurements. Those are two methods of measurement, that is all.
isnt this just a godox ad600 ttl relabeled so you can charge more
Yes I said in the video. Prices were the same a few months ago. Now a bit more. But with that you also get much better customer support.
thank you so uk warranty then
why isn't this showing up on amazon. ?
Links to Amazon in video description. It sells under a different name in the USA.
Hey thanks a lot for the response man....saw it as godox definitely gonna pick that up
Awesome
Will this work with Pentax?
It should work fine with any normal shot shoe but I have not tried Pentax.
But it won't give you TTL or HSS, so I'd then go for the cheaper non-TTL version of this.
you the man!Thank you in taking your time to answer! Always enjoyed the channel.
Awesome, thanks! :)
I have this same system, except mine is called Flashpoint.
flashpoint, godox, pixapro, cheetah, neewer, and a few others are just different branding of same gear... this equipment are kind of great, but the branding are confusing
Regardless it's a great system. High speed sync baby yeah!
Big light small artist.
same as the flash point 600 just different name.
Yes as mentioned in the video this is manufactured by Godox.
It's rebranded in the UK as Pixapro, in the USA as Flash Point. (I didn't know about the flash point until someone said that in the comments)
Best strobe evenr ? I don't think so had them return it too contrasti for my taste the light quality that comes out of the light is no pleasing on skin tones Paul c buff einstiens are awesome white milky soft however I jump to profoto and that's king Nice video is just my 2
Cents
Contrast is created by how you use the light.
As for the colour, I'd be happy to see an example of the issue. As far as I know this has no big colour issue.
don't BRAK the bulb.
Neewer has one for less money
1. There's a price difference between the TTL and non-TTL versions. I only saw Newer in non-TTL.
2. With Newer or some other rebrands that ship from China you'd need to pay import tax, depending on your country. Pixapro is in the UK.
3. Pixapro have superb customer service. You won't get that with a Chinese Ebay seller.
I am in the USA ... it is on Amazon site and has HSS
HSS and TTL are not the same thing.
The TTL version costs more.