Profoto B1 vs Godox AD600 Flashpoint Xplor 600 TTL
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
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Comparing the Profoto B1 Air vs. Godox AD600 / Flashpoint Xplor TTL in all the categories that define a moonlight including power output, color consistency, power consistency, features, modifiers, system, accessories, customer service, build quality, size, etc.
Profoto B1 Description (From B&H)
Based on the popular D1 Air series of monolights, all of the familiar professional and convenience features we've come to expect from Profoto are onboard. The B1 has the same dense, durable polymer housing, integrated 77-degree reflector, built-in receiver compatible with Air transmitters and intuitive highly visible controls and display as the D1 but with two striking differences - battery power and TTL camera/flash integration.
Busy photographers can literally set up their lights, slip the optional Air Remote TTL-C or TTL-N transmitter onto their camera's hot shoe and point-and-shoot without taking a reading and testing. Traditionally point-and-shoot would be a suspect term for a pro, but not if you're shooting back to back jobs on an impossible schedule with what you thought was an undoable deadline. Composition, posing etc, is of course up to the photographer, but time after time the B1 will give you a first shot exposure that's a keeper.
The key to this control is the optional Air Remote TTL-C (for Canon) or TTL-N (for Nikon) transmitter. Operating on 2.4 GHz band width, the transmitter, really a controller, has 8 frequency channels and with 3 groups per channel and a range of up to 330' for TTL triggering and 1,000' for normal triggering. Each channel has power ratio capability of +/- 2 stops. If you prefer to use manual you have +/- 9 stops power variation. You've also got modeling light, unit shut-down and first or rear curtain control. The TTL-C/N and the B1 500 Air TTL have mini-USB connectors for firmware updates directly from Profoto's website. The head can be triggered by any Air Remote but requires the TTL-C/N for full functionality.
Core performance features are equally impressive. The B1 recycles in 0.1 to 1.9 seconds but can deliver up to 20 flashes per second in Quick Burst Mode which engages at lower power settings. Flash duration in Normal Mode is a very fast 1/1000 sec but there's also a Freeze Mode that delivers flash durations a short as 1/19,000 sec. for capturing liquid sprays or splashes and other creative effects.
A free update from Profoto's website adds High-Speed Sync to the B1 and Air Remote TTL-C or TTL-N. HSS is the technical term for syncing flash with shutter speeds shorter than the so-called x-sync - typically 1/250 of a second. It's a useful tool for controlling ambient light and for freezing action. Profoto uses a patent-pending technology that emits an extremely fast series of flash pulses. With the upgrade installed, a simple button-press activates HSS Mode allowing you to shoot at shutter speeds as fast as 1/8,000 of a second. The B1 500 AirTTL employs an exchangeable Lithium-ion battery that gets up to 220 flashes on a 2-hour charge with the included 2.8A charger or a 1-hour charge with an optional 4.5A quick charger. The Battery has fuel gauge-type LEDs that make monitoring remaining power easy. The B1's modeling light has been upgraded to LED to put less strain on the battery and provide the equivalent output of a 70W halogen bulb.
Finally, B1's the back panel has been upgraded with a large, bright LCD screen that informs the user of the flash's power level, radio channel and group, sync choice, modeling light mode and recycle alert. There's also a large battery gauge that literally can be read from 20' away.
The B1 500 TTL comes with protective cap, 2.8A charger and a soft case.
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks so much for doing all the hard work and putting all the numbers and comparisons together. Much appreciated!
You are just awesome. I was feeling that I was missing a lot not owning a profoto. But deep inside my heart I knew I made the right choice to go with the xplor 600. Thanks so much.
Excellent and honest comparison. This is real world far beyond specs.
Thank you for this side by side review, Robert!
Great review. Not scientific in a pure sense, but scientific enough. The amount of time spent on this warrants huge thanks, and its very much appreciated by everyone who watches it. Keep making great vids man.
Interesting analysis. I purchased the AD600 (Godox) 15 months ago. I loved it, after using speed-lights for several years. Eventually I bought the extension head as well as the AC power adapter (which you mentioned), which are both very useful; the extension is very useful, since I have low ceilings and I use top-down lighting with a 60" softlighter and need to position the light as high as possible. For high volume, the AC adapter is nice for safety, but either way the battery capacity is also very good. The problem though is that my colors are way off using the Godox, especially when shooting at smaller apertures/higher powers. My grey colors were losing their blue touch and turn magenta. That realization was what led me to this video.
On one shoot, I was rolling the AD600 and the bulb fell out and smashed on the floor, so thanks, good job mentioning it in the durability test (the profoto the bulb is encased). I now take the bulbs out before any kind of long-distance transportation.
In other words, everything you said matches my experience with the Godox. Thanks!
Great video! I was really leaning towards the Godox AD600 because of the price, but I can not believe how well it performed compared to the B1. Thank you so much for the video!
Greetings from Ft Lauderdale in Florida. Thanks again for another great video. Like the previous ones, I enjoyed it.
Thanks Robert! Such a great review and it is very helpful!
A very professional review here about strobes,nothing new! Amazing work mate.
thanks!
Your videos are always good and always the ones I look out for one products from godox. Thanks.
Any time!
Awesome review! I always worry about going for the 'cheapest' (price wise) but your video has certainly helped - and I learnt a lot! Thanks so much!! :)
Great comparison. Much more in depth than the Fstoppers review. And on a side note you are quickly becoming the Bob Wolf of Photography videos. Soothing to watch.....Informational.......Creative. I've owned both systems and recently sold/selling my Profoto gear. Profoto is amazing but as your review covers there are some downsides. I have been a proud Profoto user/owner for 8+ years but recently switched to a full Flashpoint Xplor/Streaklight/Ving 860 II system. Maybe it's just me but I fear Profoto will become the next 'Pocket Wizard' of the industry (Undercut by less expensive, feature rich, solid performing Chinese counterparts.) I owned the B1 and a B2 (sigh) in addition to the many $$$ accessories that complete the system. The tipping point was when I saw your video about the insane sale Adorama had three weeks ago. I was in need for a second and possibly a third light which meant over 4.5k in the Profoto world. Again, Profoto is amazing but there are significant downsides that you point out. I would add to your list, Redundancy. The trigger costs $411. It's quite difficult to justify owning two Air TTL remotes. Period. Two Godox/Flashpoint R2 remotes are less than $100. Then consider there is no two way feedback for light power output or a simple IR assist for when shooting in low light (yes I know about the X1 Ir assist issues but at least the X1 has that feature). The B1/B2 built in reflector is both a positive and a negative. The positive: Elegant design and ease of use with Grids, Gels, and Barndoors. The negative: Beauty Dishes and larger light modifiers such as parabolic umbrellas and +5' Octa's where I need a $200+ dome in order to 'approach' an omni directional light source. Also note that the Glass Dome can not be used on the B2. The bulb in the B1 can be user replaced but it is quite difficult to do and expensive. The B2 bulb must be sent back to Profoto for service. And though the Gel system is easy to use it 1) Can not be used when you have the Dome in place and 2) It extends the front of the unit so far forward that it adversely affects the throw of light when using a beauty dish. Anywho, I sold the B1 and with that money I bought three Xplor TTL's (triggers included) and still had enough left over for a damn good burger and fries @ Five Guys. So really it came down to this: What is better for me, my style, my budget: One B1 with one remote and one B2 for portability or three Xplor600's, One remote head, two AC adapters, studio rental time (we New Yorkers live in quite small spaces), and multiple remotes for redundancy.
Thank you so much for the detailed user review, I'm still struggling which one to get, a B1 or AD600. If I need to do some continuous shootings, could AD600 capable to recycle fast enough for freezing the moving objects/models in action?
Kenji Liu hey buy the godox, if you re not happy with, just resell it a'd buy the B1. Considering the price difference, you will not regret your choice whatsoever.
The recycle speed is a touch slower at Full power but other than that it's about equal, and considering the AD600 is actually putting out more light / power setting it's actually faster in recycle. Also the test shows, flash duration is faster on the AD600 when comparing to light output, not wattage, so the AD600 is actually superior in that category.
Thanks for the great review!
I'm glad I bought the Godox!
Good fair comparison. However I will point out (as a Profoto user) you can use multiple brands of softboxes and umbrellas on Profoto without a problem. For umbrellas you just have to make sure the shaft diameter is correct. For soft boxes you just need a Profoto speed ring. Personally I own and have tried several different brand softboxes and they all snap right into the Profoto speed ring.
Russell Tracy Photography thats coo
obviously +111$ for each strobe 5 lights 555$ in speedring
False. "for soft boxes you just need a Profoto speed ring". That's a negative withe Calumet soft boxes.
Great video. You spent some time putting this one together...
Awesome comparison!! Thank you!
Re your observation that both units didn't gain power linearly at low power settings (turning up power 1 stop didn't t give 1 stop increase) I wonder if the ambient light from that window wasn't polluting your results...? At very low power, the ambient would be a significant percentage of total exposure but would NOT vary when you vary flash power, so changing power level would seem to have less effect. At high power settings, the ambient would be only a small percentage of total, so would have negligible effect on results. PS -- I have the XPLOR 600 and my only real complaint is the cheesy, notchy angle adjustment on the stand mount...
Very late to the party here, but you are correct. In the segment around 07:15 where he claims the Profoto is jumping a bit in exposure you can cleary see on the light meter that it's hopping between measuring the flash at 40-50% of the total exposure, so your explanation is right on the money. Also probably the reason he was experiencing the uneven exposure, as you can clearly see in the video that he just happens to shoot the B1 when the window light is bright and the other light when it's more dim.
Great video Rob
Great video Rob 😊
Thanks Ultra!
great info mate. I have a fujifilm XT1 and was thinking about gODOX AD600. What trigger do I use with that? I was advised to use a Cactus trigger but does the Godox triggers work with the Fuji X cameras. Thanks.
I have been waiting for a up to date video of these two vs. thank you! 7:00 wtf moment
+Bethanie steph lol yeah it was all over the place I was quite surprised. Glad it helped!
Nice fair comparison. Thanks for all your effort!
Happy it helped!
Thanks so much for the info!
the best vs review I have ever saw
Thank you
Great video. I have the godox AD600 and i love it.
I agree completely with your opinion on the results, the only thing you didn't test or compare is their HSS capabilities, but great job and thanks for making this video.
Excelente!!!!!!
Todas las dudas aclaradas.
Gracias Maestro!!!!!
Awesome video! Price and compatibility are big factors for me in deciding, so thanks for thinking of those things in your review.
Your videos are great, and not only because you appear to be a fellow fan of Nikon+Fuji, Flashes+Gels, and the Sekonic 758-DR.
Question on the color "issue"... was that only because of jacking the power quickly? If set up at a mid-range power setting and left to settle there for 20-30 shots without much further change would you expect much variation? I already take a patch reference shot (passport) anyway. Now, I only have speedlights.
Nice review. I'd love to see power output comparison using HSS. I'd wager the D600 would win hands down.
Robert, great video thank you. As a result I am sold on the AD600 at a 1/3 of the cost in the U.K. I have now subscribed to your #.
Thanks for subscribing Jeff, going with the Pixapro Citilight then?
Honestly, I was really torn between these two setups when I started shopping for a battery powered studio strobe. The Profoto B1 seems to be the benchmark from which everyone views strobes, and having a set of these seems to be a great bragging point for people... I get it, because I wanted some! Anyway, I priced out a set of two strobes and a trigger for Profoto, and found that this would cost me $4,567 for two strobes and a transmitter. At that point I went out and bought the Godox (Flashpoint) set from Adorama when it was on sale, and got two HSS/TTL heads, with two transmitters, for $1,098. It's a no brainer at that price difference, at least for me. I'm glad to see that the Godox/Flashpoint unit stacked up fairly well against the B1.
Robert, very nice article at Petapixel, congratulations!
Any plans on a review of the QSII and SKII series of Godox strobes?
Great job on the comparison! New subscriber!
+ghosTECH FPV thank you and welcome!
thank you for your efort. Great info here.
Excellent comparison thanks. I have the Godox AD600BM. I haven't use dit much yet but I think it is an excellent unit for the cost. The biggest criticism would have to be on the irritating tension handle. But that is a teeny thing. I reckon I'll look at getting the ttl version and definitely grab teh AC-DC Adapter too :)
Very nice actually I have all godox flashes and very pleased with them my only issue is menu complication in strobes and trigger ,but who cares since it creates good light as profoto and butter in modifier selections as you mentioned
Robert very nice review of both...and I think a fair point of view!
Thanks Angelo!
woo hoo feeling great about purchasing my new lighting kit from Strobepro (same as Goddox but in Canada). Should arrive Friday!
Yet another rebrand I didn't know about! I can't keep track of all of them. Perhaps the next video! Enjoy Louise it's an awesome system to use
I love my Strobepro for Sony. You will enjoy yours.
Louise, I am in Canada as well and looking for some new strobes. How do you like your Strobepros? Anxious to hear about your experience with them.
Hello Robert! I was looking for the sale on the AD600M it still shows them at $549 on the link you had posted...
Great review, thanks for taking the time. I'm looking to buy my first off camera flash system for on location sports. One concern I'm having trouble getting a handle on is recycle time to allow flash to keep pace with high fps sports shooting. Profoto has a freeze mode that I'm understanding may be better suited for fast sports.
Can anyone comment if my high fps expectations are realistic? If so, does the profoto have an edge?
I'm ok buying profoto, but the features of ad600 really appeal to me; AC power option, flashes per battery charge, etc
Thanks for your effort to compare. The difference in colortemperature is the only issue withe the cheapo? any cheapo with great consistency out there?
I'd love to see the same comparison between the B1 and the Orlit Rovelight 610RT
Hi Robert, great Video at the right time (just going to buy an ofc Setup). Before viewing your video my decision was made to buy 2 b1 and one b2. Now I have to think again... Other than in the US here in Germany is no possibility to get any customer support / repair if something happens to your strobes.... That decreases the suberb performance of the xplor.
I have 4 Flashpoint Xplor 600 Strobes R2. When I press the test button on the Transmitter all strobes fire but when I press the shutter release on the camera to take a picture, the flashes don’t fire. I have checked a lot of video tuts and no one mentions this problem. Here are my settings. Chanel 1 on strobes and the transmitter, all strobes on wireless radio, groups used A, B and C, Transmitter switch on and Mode is M on all strobes and transmitter. What am I not doing right? Please advise.
I'm a Nikon/Sony shooter, if I purchase a Sony TTL version of the light can I use a Nikon TTL trigger and shoot with both cameras? Or will the Sony version not do Nikon TTL?
Great video comparison!! Would love to see you add in the Broncolor Siros 800 to your test...
If I ever catch wind of a Broncolor owner in my area I'll see if I can work something out with them!
the thing other guy was saying the quality of prophoto b1 is outstanding vs cheaper priced mono light, but in a budget I definitely go for the cheapest :)
Good video, I disagree on modifier quality. With Bowens mount you can use Westcott modifiers which are of the highest quality
+Adam Hoskins I said you can get a wide range of quality on bowens mount. The only reason I gave the edge to Profoto (which you can also use other brands of modifiers with) is because of their zoomable speedring.
+Robert Hall Photography ...Another excellent video Robert!
+JOE PRETE thanks as always Joe!
Hello Robert! Is it possible to see an extended version of this review to include Q series flashes of Godox and Interfit s1?
+wanpro hey wan, I'm open to any comparisons I can make possible, but this is all done without funding / supply support. So if I hear of anyone local investing in that gear I'll try my best to discuss it
Great video very informative
Super helpful, Robert! I'm so stuck between the Xplor 600 or 360. I'm stuck haha
+Joshua Luciano I'd say if you think you are going to have a lot of high power demands (using in sunlight) then go with the AD600. If you'll always be using it by yourself (no assistants), get the AD360ii
Robert Hall Photography yeah not all the time will I have an assistant. Thanks man!
Great video! Love the work you put in. BTW, on your Yeti mic, you speak point the logo toward your mouth.
That sucker is long gone but thank you regardless!
There is a saying: The best camera is this which you always wears with you and so it's with a portable flash system, too. Nearly nobody cares about the portability. Packing size, wheight etc. I really love to get the Godox as small as about 20cm by 12cm by 18cm. Put the akkus on any side pocket and have it all (incl. the camera) in one big roller bag.
I haven't worked with the Profoto's yet but with the Broncolor Siros L 800. They are that fxxx heavy and bulky that I won't wear them all around. I think the Profoto's are nearly the same. They don't change its size when you unplug the accu.
And if it comes to power output. You can put two AD600 into one super lightweight and small twinhead for having 1200ws.
More to consider: If you buy one set of the Profotos you get one charger.
If you buy 2 Godox you get 2 charger. So if you are having lunch on your job you are able to charge both accus at a time.
As I mentioned before the new Godox Xpro triggers can switch from TTL to M using the equivalent power output.
I loved this in-depth comparison. I love my godox AD600 but one thing it's lacking is documentation and how to manuals. Do you have a good source that could show me how to use it with a wireless light meter and the stroboscopic mode?
Yeah they do need a better system for that. As for using it with a light meter you just have to use a light meter that will detect any flash and use test on the X1. Stroboscopic mode i'm sure there are tutorials on youtube that could be applied, it's pretty simple to access on the AD600.
thanks for the video Robert. i have a question, do we need a different bulb for the ad600 if we choose to combine 2 strobes for 1200 watt? or we can use the normal bulb came with the ad600? thank you
Need the bulb designed to handle 1200. Not sure what would happen if you used the standard one. Best case scenario it would fire at 600, worst case scenario it would explode lol.
as far as the profoto changing on the lower powers I noticed the flash to ambient percentage changed from shot to shot. It could be because the window light was changing and giving you different results.
+Jose Uribe ambient reading was well under lowest registered flash setting. Also that would have affected the AD600 as well
Thank you Robert . . .
Very Helpfull
+Amir Dabaghian you're welcome!
Nice job Rob, thanks for putting this together... What's your take on the TTL reading and locking that in... Do you think that is something that can be modified in the firmware? ... it would be a huge bonus to these lights if it is possible. Speaking of firmware... I just received my 2 FP Xplor TTL and a 1200ws extension head... the first thing I wanted to do was upgrade the firmware but as I understand it, the firmware is only upgradeable with a Windows machine... is that right? How are Mac people doing this, are they using Parallels or Bootcamp or?
Very interested in this myself. The Profoto ability to use TTL, switch to manual (at the exact same setting) and then adjust to taste could be very useful.
now to figure out how to influence Godox into doing it... I have good reason to believe Godox will be introducing a new 1200ws light and 2400ws extension head very soon. I was hoping they were going to do this at Photokina or even PhotoPlus... but I know it's coming
I definitely think it's possible, and would assume it wouldn't be that hard to program it in. The light is already "remembering" a power setting in TTL during the preflash, all it has to do is then use that figure when switching to manual. Perhaps by making some sort of hold group to switch option. I'm not expecting a 1200ws light, but a 2400ws head using 4 AD600 has long been "expected".
Rob, I seem to recall reading on Godox’s page that the light remembers the last exposure for a few seconds… I looked in the manual but can’t seem to locate it now… I’m going to attempt contacting them… I’m holding my breath, wish me luck… Go! lol
actually the godox xpro c trigger has it!
Great video, wondering what kind is the camera strap you are using on your Canon?
Just to be clear that camera isn't mine, i'm a Nikon / Fuji shooter. However, that was an Opteka camera strap and it felt great!
Thanks for a great comparison between the two. Is the Flashpoint only available in the US? I can find Godox in Sweden where I live but since Flashpoint seems to have some extra value that would be great.
Yes Flashpoint is a U.S. distributor. Although it seems there are different options for various countries. I don't know about the rest of Europe but I do know the U.K. has a distributor called Pixapro who distributes it as the Citilight 600
Thank you very much for this detailed review, I'm still struggling which one to get, a B1 or AD600. If I need to do some continuous shootings, could AD600 capable to recycle fast enough for freezing the moving objects/models in action?
The AD600 and B1 are pretty close in recycle speed if you consider the output. Freezing action is capable with either based on your settings, flash power, and proximity of light.
Thank you so much!!
In the initial test depend on the reflectors on the flashes?
Hi Robert, great really informative videos. I don't have much money but looking for an on location strobe. I do like the Godox.
Do you know much about the IC12 led light cube?
I also meant to say that I use a Fuji X-E2 so would be using manual flash and a light meter and want to use HSS
Robert you compared Flashpoint/Godox AD600 to Orlit/Jinbei? Seems like Orlit ergonomics are more like the Profoto B1. Orlit is newer line, at least in the US. Both imported by Adorama. Thank you.
Hey Art. I haven't put much interest into the Orlit because it is designed more to work with the Canon 600's and I'm a Nikon shooter. I did email Jinbei so I could try since many expressed interest, but unfortunately never received a response. It seems as though the Orlit was Jinbei's response to the AD600 and will work great if someone is already invested in Canon 600 EX-RT's, otherwise I still find the Godox X series far more complete. And I think the AD200 is far and away better than Jinbei's newest portable strobe (which seems to be more like the Profoto B2).
Long, but informative ; thanks :)
+Brett Walsh yeah- if I don't show the testing people don't believe it, if I do people say it's long. 🤗 glad it helped!
These days there are Bowens to Profoto adapters which enable all the Bowens based modifiers to be used on Profoto :)
Excelente explicación! Gracias!
I'm only getting about 20-30 pops in hss before the overheat protection kicks in with the Godox Ad360. I've talked to a few others getting the same result. I'd love to see some comparisons on this.
+stephen polwart on full?
On half.. full is even worse, I'm back to nd filters. Be great if you could do a review on this!
Good comparison, however what photographers should consider is that most professionals who use Profoto gear on a daily basis rent the equipment. So if someone like me travels from L.A. to N.Y., I can rent the gear I'm comfortable using and hire a local assistant who will also be familiar with Profoto. If I want to try a specific modifier that I don't use often, I can usually rent it first. I'm almost positive that Godox gear is not rentable in any major rental house in the USA. That's a major benefit that shouldn't be overlooked for those on tight budgets.
You should also do a godox ad360 vs profoto b2
Great deal tell I'm looking to buy a mono light and the flash point r2 is the one I'm looking at. I also seen that you are giving one Sony flashpoint away how could I win? It might be a blessing for me could I'm just starting out in photography
Hey Derrick, I would definitely be looking at the Xplor for Sony, it's a great option and Sony is a bit more limited. I know plenty of guys using sony gear with Godox and they love it. I'll be picking a random winner for each of the 3 speedlites for sharing the giveaway video which I expect to be out around the 14th! I want to be sending them out around Christmas.
Hi Robert, great video content!. well I bought one AD600 + xpro flash trigger a month ago, now that I'm doing some testshoots in HSS mode and I noticed that if I push my shutter to 1/4000 at f 1.4 in a 35mm sigma art lens with my Nikon D610 I'm seeing a little strip of light on the lower edge of the sensor and I don't know why, maybe something is happening with the last curtain I think, but it has happened to you or someone else here?
Hasn’t happened to me personally but I’ve also not shot on the D610.
Would the AD600 be a good option for an open air photo booth?
What size light modifier should I use for multiple people in an open air photo booth?
+KC Shutters it would definitely have the power (maybe overkill, really). If you always have access to an outlet I would just go with some cheap AC strobe like an Alien Bee. I think anything over 20" would get you great light for that type of use.
hi Robert. sorry if i boder you again.... do you know if it s possible to control the godox AD600 with the yongnuo speedlite trigger E3-RT (canon) ????... thanx a lot
+michael bonito nope!
will you be doing a giveaway this year also?
I assist a photographer who shoots with a Canon 1D X. When doing sports action posters where he needs to freeze motion, he'll use 3 paul c buff Einstein heads for his key and a single one for his him. The recycle rate at the lower power settings lets him motordrive his strobes. They seem to keep up with the Canon 1DX pretty well. I was wondering if the AD600's recycle rate could keep up with a motordrive at lower power settings? Your thoughts please.
+Aaron Cornia I think 1/16th-1/32nd and under might be able to keep up with high FPS shooting.
Robert Hall Photography thanks for the response
Robert,you mention that you have your favorite modifiers with Bones mount. Any suggestions for octa boxex?
+Red Trolley Studio fotodiox ez Lineup is much favorite octaboxes. They are linked in the description in the "Godox buying guide" link
Thank you buddy! Sorry I missed that. Much appreciated!
Nice review, could u show us wich picture u had to use a profoto because of color issue ?
+Mauriã Sabbado I'm not going to upload it separately, but I'm happy to describe the project. I had a client who managed leather for Chrysler. They had to document the color hues of all their leathers and the amount it varies. They also had to show acceptable levels of scarring and skin stains. Since it was for commercial purchasing and all about the range of color within the leather, I needed perfect color accuracy from the light to avoid inconsistencies.
What do you think of the
Neewer 400W 2.4G HSS Dual TTL(i-TTL and e-TTL) Outdoor Flash Strobe Light for Canon and Nikon, with 2.4G Wireless Trigger and Rechargeable Li-ion Battery (350 Full Power Flashes) Bowens Mount F1-400 or Profoto B1
never used it!
what is your new light setup with the Fuji xT2. Do you use the godox or something else
+Sypher Studios still use the Godox for Nikon on Fuji, manual only.
hi, i m wondering if you hear something about : orlit ... witch should be a rebuilt from old jimbei i guess
+michael bonito it's just going to be the updated Jinbei 610 rebranded by Flashpoint.
Great video but for those who use Paul C Buff's Alien Bees how do these lights compare to Einstiens? Only serious difference I'm seeing is the internal battery. Otherwise. the Einstein are cheaper, more Power output and shoots TTL as well. Plus I don't have to switch mounts for all my modifiers. Your thoughts?
Personally for me PCB innovation is gone so I moved away from the company. The digibee was a joke in terms of a modern release.
As for your points, "cheaper" is not true when you consider you would need a battery as well to use it outdoors. That kind of explains the price gap between Xplor 600 and Einstein. Even moreso when you consider control, the Cyber Commander is far more expensive than an R2/X1 controller.
The Einstein can't do HSS.
I'm not sure that the Einstein truly is more powerful either. Just because it's 640 "watts" doesn't mean it puts out more light, as demonstrated in this video.
Also, i'm not sure about other brands but as far as I know TTL never worked on the Einstein for Nikon.
That's my thoughts!
Thank for responding to my questions. Great video. But how is the customer service? I feel like I can reach out and touch someone at PCB. Calling them in China or only through email i can't say gives me a lot of sense of security if I need help or replacement or a fix. PCB services is great. That's a factor, nothing lasts for ever. I rather pay extra for good service - just playing devil's advocate here. I have Alien Bees and PCB mounts on all my modifiers (not Bowens) and im trying to avoid that change.
+Robert Silver Photography Godox customer service is definitely lacking, but Flashpoint / cheetah does a great job bridging that gap in the US, pixapro in UK, strobepro in Canada.
I ripped this from a forum and confirmed it works perfectly to double the power of your Godox or Flashpoint for $20!!! I have two Xplor 600's and with this hack I essentially have 2400 watts to play with. Take that sun!! I wish i knew about this hack earlier so I'm posting it around for other people to enjoy.
"BTW for those with a particularly 'geeky' inclination, there is a way of increasing the maximum power you get out of this flash when using high shutter speeds.
You need....
1) The XTR-16 receiver (US$20)
2) To switch off the internal receiver to bypass HSS
3) Set the flash to manual 1/1 maximum power and set the Godox/flashpoint as a slave unit.
4) Add a flash delay (custom function 0) of 23 to your X1T-S trigger.
At that point you are hypersyncing the flash (taking advantage of its t.01 1/220 flash duration) and can shoot up to 1/8000th of a second. The advantages of doing this are twofold....
1) You gain a stop of power. Not a lot but it is the equivalent of using a 1200ws light in HSS which is very useful in bright sunlight
2) You use less battery and you can shoot twice as many shots at full power before you overheat the flash (100)."
Will pocket ranger work the godox ? I know they have their own . I got pocket rangers a few years back hate to toss them aside
+Night Stringers what is a pocket ranger? Tried to google but found information on apps only.
is it Godox Flashpoint or Flashpoint Xplor is a different Company ?
+GadgetByte Nepal Flashpoint is Godox equipment with different labels, dropshipped by the US brand Adorama
How is Godox Ad200 to begin indoor and Outdoor Off camera flash , We have used Speedlite for off camera flash so far and was thinking off upgrading to ad200 , Any recommended Flash modifier to use with AD200 Wistro ? I have small Umbrella Softbox (Neewer 28 inches x 28 inches/70 cm x 70 cm Speedlite ) but want something better with AD200 . Thanks
Thx alot man
Very nice. Thanks.
Superb comparison. Thank you for doing this.
+Art Altman thanks glad you enjoyed
I know that the Godox has a electrical adapter option, but does Profoto has one ?
No they do not!
Can anyone recommend an octagon softbox for this light that is as large or larger than 38"?
amzn.to/2t8xe6T (40")
amzn.to/2s9snh9 (48")
amzn.to/2s9zjLp (36", 48", 60")
How good is the Bowens mount on the xplor? Multiple people say it's very loose.
+TwoWheels Productions I've found no issue with the bowens mount on my AD600s and Xplor.
It does rattle a bit, but I have no fear the softbox will fall off.
I imagine it would be greatly distracting out in the wind.
Awesome comparison.
Thanks!
Gracias!!! Thanks :D
Hello Robert, love the channel. Ok, I shoot Nikon, but pondering about buying a Sony 6300 in the near future. Will the FlashPoint work with the Sony camera and it's a Nikon mono light version. Lastly, I own several Nikon SB800 flashes, this monolight flash Nikons flashes using the Sony camera?
+Detroit Don Using a Godox X1T-S / Flashpoint R2 Sony trigger will give you full Sony functionality. The AD600 / Xplor 600 builds in all the brands functionality so you can use any camera as long as you have the appropriate trigger.
As for Nikon SB-800s, if you get an Godox X1R-N or Flashpoint R2 Receiver for Nikon, you can control the SB-800 from the X1T-N or R2 controller.
+Detroit Don oh wait. I'm not positive if that will give you control of SB-800s from a Sony camera, better to get a Godox / Flashpoint flash for Sony, you definitely won't get TTL or HSS on the SB-800s, maybe manual control though.
Hey @Robert Hall Photography, how can you trigger the ad600 with a lightmeter?
+diffusion33 you'd probably have to attach a pocket wizard to it. As you can see if refuse to get pocket wizards so I just walk back and forth haha.
Thanks, very unlikely i will be getting a pocket wizard either. I've finally ordered the beast and i'll add a couple of ad200 to go with it. Thanks for all your hard work it's very much appreciated :)
Could you not use a separate Godox X1T?
Yeah you could keep an X1T in your hand and do it as well. *Now feels dumb for not doing that in video*
Have you ever tested the Phottix Ultra 500 battery powered lite???
No I have not.
Any suggestions for strobe set ups for fuji xt2? Looking to make a shift...but not finding solid opinions.
Unfortunately the best setup now seems to be using the Cactus V6 in conjunction with Nikon TTL monolight equipment, such as the AD600B / Xplor. This gets you all the goodies, but you have to use a receiver, which, bleh.
Ok! I have the non TTL AD600B...so I wouldn't have the same luck?
Oh, well shoot you can just put the X1 for Nikon on the X-T2 and have full manual control. Or use the Cactus V6 if you want HSS.
Awesome! Thanks for all the help!
Just watched the video, how do I apply for the free Flashpoint Li-Ion TTF Flash for Canon??? Hope I'm still on time to enter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Might be just a tiny bit late LOL