DJI Mic Settings for Good Audio
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- In this video I test the audio quality of the new DJI Mic and share how different settings for the gain in the transmitter and receiver can affect the signal to noise ration of the audio that is recorded in the camera. I also go through a very important camera setting you have to make to get good audio.
At first, I was quite dissapointed by the audio I captured while having all settings set to default. I also had auto levels applied in the camera. But I'm glad to say that with the right settings it's possible to record audio with much less noise using the DJI Mic.
In the video I share the settings I use.
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DJI should have you on the payroll. This saved me so much time experimenting!
Thank you so much for this wonderful and most helpful video. You are a life saver as I was not able to get this information anywhere else. 👍🏼
Thank you for this. I used the settings you have suggested and it works a whole lot better. Appreciate the video .
Warum ist die Aufnahme bei meinem Gerät so leise? Wenn ich das dann digital nach bearbeiten muss und die Lautstärke hoch regulieren, habe ich wieder dieses fürchterliche rauschen.
Leise ist normal. In davinci gebe ich meist 10db drauf. Aber rauschen sollte dann trotzdem kaum vorhanden sein.
The static noise is killing me, you still have static noise on this video. :(
Yeah it’s like “how to get good audio” and the video has terrible audio…
It’s like a skit from the office.
That mic is simply shit
🔥Best noise test!!! Thank you 👍
did you had any audio delay with the DJI MIC? recording in 4k 60fps i have a 3 frames audio delay
I didnt do 60fps. I usually record high quality Mode 4k at 24fps and had no problem.
Thank you so much. This video was beneficial and well-explained. Do you have any videos on your camera settings that you use to get this clear footage?
Awesome video thanks!
Thank you so much! This was very very helpful. Your information was much appreciated!!!!
Thank you so much for the video! Just got my Dji and I was a bit disappointed and so close to returning it.
Exactly how I first felt ;-)
Thanks!
buddy,thanks! you madee outstanding video-work~ take care~
Such clear, helpful detail. Thank you.
Need your help. The first time I used these dji wireless mic and uploaded my video on UA-cam the sound turned out too low. I had set the transmitter to + 3 and receiver to +1. Also I am using a dji Pocket 2 with a dji audio adapter. What audio levels do I set on the receiver and transmitter to get a satisfactory audio if not perfect. Thanks . I cannot find any videos on YT on setting gain levels in different environments. What's the thumb rule for setting gain levels between the transmitter, receiver and the camera I.e dji pocket 2
You can go higher with the gains. I have +6 in Transmitter and another +4 in the Receiver currently. The camera levels are below 50% to reduce noise. But whatever levels you set, you also have to tweak the signal in your video editing software. You should aim for something around -5db so the sound isn't too low. I typically add gain in Davinci Resolve to get the signal strong enough for my UA-cam videos. There are great tutorials available. I'm no expert here, just learning by doing.
Good test. I personally don't do videos/audio but sure appreciate when they are done well.
Thanks Michael, Great Info! Well Done!
this was great..i have the same set up.. i have the dji mic and the sony zv1 ..what audio levels where best for you ? thank for the review.
So helpful! Thanks so much :)
Audio settings are a different kind of beast. I streamed a little here and there and use a Rode NT1-A for it. To get the gate, EQ and everything setup correctly was quite the pain. It's never really perfect but eventually I found something
Just what I was looking for. Thanks!
Hi form Italy! The standalone TX REC is considered a secondary backup -6db track? The TX Wireless signal is witched off when you register only using TX internal memory?
Thx for this video! What kind of sound settings do you use or suggest in case of recording outdoor nature sounds (e.g. in a forest) with transmitter backup track recording?
Since this microphone is optimized to pickup sounds in close range while avoiding too much surrounding noise, I don't think it's ideal for your use-case. You can try to increase the gains as much as possible and you'll certainly get ok audio. But I think what you are looking for is a Zoom Stereo Recorder. But best give it a try for yourself and see if it's sufficient for how you use the audio.
@@mibreit-photo thank you for your answer and advice!
hi Michael, great video thank you, i wanted to ask one more thing. How would you set the Headphones level with your settings? also how mush should i listen to this audio while editing in the computer? thank you in advance
Hello, what do you mean with headphones level? When you edit, you should use good headphones and an audio level you would use when watching videos yourself - I usually have it set a bit louder to when I want to check for noise, but ultimately you should have it sound good at normal audio level that most people use when watching videos.
But I'm no audio professional. What I think is good audio, might not be good audio in the ears of a professional ;-)
@@mibreit-photo oh ok thank you i see. I have really nice overhead phones and yes i always set them in the middle
Great tutorial. Thank you.
does DB gain reduction helps to reduce surrounding noise in DJI wireless mic?
Edit: My answer below is for the noise of the system itself. With surrounding noise, do you mean noise from street, other people and the like? For this, what you must do is get the dji mic close to your mouth (sound source). Usually, other surrounding noise is not very audible then.
First Answer: No, you must increase the gain in transmitter and receiver and reduce it inside the camera for the best quality. The later in the transmission chain you add gain, the more you will increase noise. Most noise in my case was added by the camera when the digital signal was converted into analog, fed into the mic-input of the camera and then amplified. But you should do tests with your system to find the best configuration.
Good sir, you just saved my life. God bless you lol
The mic sounds like it’s clipping and distortion plus the fuzz. I can’t find a video where I like the sound of this mic at all.
What about cellular, is it the same settings? I guess not if a mobile doesn't have volume setting in it
You have to experiment yourself. I don't use it on cellphone, so I cannot tell. Maybe you can find a good recording app that allows you to control the levels manually, like I set in the camera.
@@mibreit-photo I must say its less hiss if you use a good cellular that can handle with the Type c directly, if you use another cables for older cellular you will get much more hiss noise I'm using Samsung note 10+ with much more noise than using it directly with S22 Ultra
@@-eyalgelbergofficial8827 makes sense, since input will likely be digital with USB-C, so you get less conversions along the way
Back up track that you used , needs to be put in mono in post, your voice was only on the left channel !
Yea it's fixed in upcomming videos. I was a bit to quick with the edit ;-) I'm still a newbie when it comes to audio editing
Question, does the internal recording is ALWAYS always recorded as backup audio? -6db?
@@MichaelYoungKimyes
perfect! Thank you
give settings for outdoor shoots in iPhone
You can also turn off Audio Compression (on R6 MKII). Orange settings. Page 4. Second from top. Little hidden option for better sound.
Thanks for the tip. I will check if my R5 also has such a setting
Hello Michael. Mi brand new DJI MIC does an eco sound or a double voice when im monitoring the recording with mi headphnes. Is this normal? has Any Fix? Thanks for your great video!!
Hi there, to be honest, I didn't yet monitor with the receiver. Usually such an echo would be the result of a delay somewhere in the transmission chain. But there shouldn't be any, otherwise the Camera would also have a hard time to get the audio in sync. You monitor at the receiver, right? I guess you should check with DJI then, maybe they have an explination or a firmware update. Sorry I couldn't help
If the backup track is on the mic how do you sync it up with the video?
Have a Video on that - ua-cam.com/video/FaXvsn_Wqcg/v-deo.html
Mine cost me $520 (AUD), waiting for it to arrive. Thanks for making this video 👍🏻
Still learning about "gain staging". Using a Sony A7III - what dB settings do you recommend for transmitter gain and receiver gain?
In the Video I use +6 on Transmitter, +3 on Receiver. But I might still increase it to be able to lower Volume in camera. I have a Feeling in the R5 a lot noise gets introduced If Input is too weak.
Question... Have you been able to adjust the audio level that is recorded to the file on the transmitter or is that a fixed level for backup purposes only?
You can adjust it
I have a question about editing with the DJI. If I am conducting an interview and I do not have the transmitter going into the camera, will I have to download the audio from both transmitters and then sync both tracks to the video and then delete the portions from each transmitter that I do not want? or does the receiver do the recording? thanks in advance for any help.
If you dont use the Receiver and just the transmitters and their Backup track, you have to sync in post. Merging the teansmitter tracks in a Software like Davinci Resolve, for example, is easy. I have a recent Video on that. But if I did an Interview I would use the Receiver and ideally have someone monitor it. Just to clarify, the Receiver does not record a Backup track for the transmitters, just passes through to camera
Dear brother,
Tell me correct setting if you can🙏
I use +6db in both transmitter and receiver and have a low input setting on my camera. I show all this in the video. But it might not be the best setting for you. You should experiment yourself to find the best settings. But the principle is: rather amplify the signal in transmitter and then receiver than raising the volume in the camera
Do you recommend these microphones to take sound to shoot a film? To record the voice of actors on stage.?
I'm just a vlogger and I don't have a comparison to more professional microphones. They sound good for me, but I don't know your requirements. I guess it also depends on the budget you have.
Thank you for the review. If i am using two transmitters, and recording both at the same time in mono, can i modified the sound level of each one during video editing? Does the video record with two channels to modify sound level independently?Thank you for yoir help.
In software like Davinci Resolve, you can separate the audio channels onto different tracks and edit them separately if you want. You would simply duplicate the audio track and for one, mute the left channel and for the other mute the right channel. Maybe there's even a simpler approach. I don't know Davinci in depth ;-)
I’ve noticed that when using it with my Sony FX3, there is a high frequency noise that is recorded. When the receiver is closer to the mic input Jack on the FX3, the sound is more noticeable. If I move the receiver to the other side of the camera, there is less noise. I have been using all automatic setting. Not sure what the problem is.
Avoid Automatic setting. In my Canon this screwed Up the noise. Also record a Backup track for comparison. It can automatically be synched in Post.
1:46 sound diferent. less eco i think but that is problem you can use bot audio on same project. so look like is better get a recorder and that it, something like zoom or tascam. but looking for wireless transmiting and look like dji mic dont achive it. It look nice and give better option than rode mic but that noise dont like. maybe down the sensivity can improve it?
5:13 nice. look like all need put some gain to avoid the static or hiss sound. ok that is good for me.
so, what is the best Receiver Gain Audio setting when we use Go Pro Camera..? is it +3..?
You have to test this yourself. With Go Pro I use backup recording and no direct connection to the go pro
Yes i know i also use back up recording most if the time. But i just want to know what setting do you use on Receiver Gain when shooting with GO Pro..?
What’s the best settings for iPhone ?
Sorry but I dont have an iPhone. Best do some tests with different gains and compare
Was stelle ich am besten ein, um Hintergrundgeräusche zu entfernen?
Filme oft draußen und möchte nicht, dass man Autos von der Straße oder Ähnliches hört…
Danke vorab ❤
Da ist wichtiger das Micro möglichst nah am Mund anzubringen, also oben am Kragen oder so. Dann ist die Stimme deutlich lauter und du kannst niedrige gains nutzen - Umgebung ist dann sehr leise
how do you set it to have the end audio in both ears? I know mono but5 when two mics its one on left and one on right. helppppp
I just use Mono and double the channel in post. But in documentation it's also explained how you can use both microphones and set them to work in Stereo. I have heard though that ob iPhone there have been problems with this Mode.
I'm hearing it's mostly Canon's fault 😂 Thanks so much for the walk through and testing! Very helpful as I just received mine today! thank you!!
Hehe, yea kinda the camera messing up the signal if you don't increase gain in the mic.
Can I use this mic on my iPhone if I’m doing a IG live with another person? I recently got mine and I’ve noticed the only way I can hear sound is for me to unplug the receiver.. If the receiver is plugged in to my iPhone then I’m not able to hear any sound. I’m wanting to use my mic for IG lives, but if I have to unplug the receiver in order to hear the sound I’m not sure how to do so. Can the mic only be used for recording video? It says the mic can be use for interviewing.
I don't use the mic with my cell phone, but if you plug in the receiver, then both in and output will be handled by the receiver I think. So you need to use the headphone output on the receiver to hear the sound.
The static sound is terrible
I am getting too much external noise even is not do laud. I am disappointed with this mic. From home recording I am receiving motorbikes and music from 1 KM away!!! How to fix this please???
That should not be the case. Have you checked with the backup track? Do you also get the Problem?
Hallo
Du musst in DR das als Stereo einstellen und nicht Mono, wenn der Sound vom MIC direkt kommt. Sonst funktioniert wie im Video zu sehen nur der Linke Lautsprecher
VG
Du hast vollkommen recht. Ich hatte beim Zusammenschneiden vergessen den zweiten Kanal auch auf den Input Kanal vom Backuptrack zu setzten. Anfängerfehler ;-) Der Rest trifft aber zu. Nutze das Mic jetzt auf Kreta und bin mit der Qualität zufrieden nach den einstellungen. Und mit der Gorpo nutze ich eh immer den Backup Track.
This might be a silly question, but why not turn up the Transmitter gain even more, in order to lower the gain on the Camera and Receiver? Can it cause problems if you raise the TX gain all the way to +12?
You want to avoid that the audio signal clips because you add too much gain. Once it clips, it cannot be recovered, even by lowering the volume in camera. But for an office environment I could go higher.
Thank you. I mean if, for example you reduced your camera gain from 50% to 25%, and increased the Transmitter from +6 to +12. As long as the end result isn’t peaking red, is there anything wrong with having the Transmitter at full gain?
@@largeEddy I don't think so.
@@mibreit-photo Ok, thank you!
@@largeEddy I think you are right about it!
Ordered and paid for mine on December 11th 2021 and still waiting... What difference would it make how good a product is if I never receive it! Products these days are for influencers and not for consumers apparently...
I ordered it at a local Camera Store in Germany. Worked well.
5:30 "Worstcase" it isn't. Instead most people have different input devices which they use to record video like mobiles, cameras and drones. THATS why you need to adjust the DJI microphone parameters correctly and not fiddle around with camera settings and then switch to another device where these settings are not longer valid. Instead of a little tweak here and a little there get it strait with the DJI microphone as it has the ability to gain DBs as well.
If I sync between multiple devices I use the Backup track which I always record. But nothing wrong, getting it also right in camera in Case I don't synch. I do what works for me and share it. If Most people do it differently I don't care If it doesnt Help in my Workflow.
I kind of still hear the noise after your "improvement"
Hey Michael, thanks for the review. And your possible solution to the problem. I got my DJI Mic too and I’m just trying to work out the perfect settings. My voice is loud and deep and I’m having problems with clipping. So I’m having a very opposite problem of you. Now watching your video i now realize that you also have a clipping problem, especially when you do your “solution” and you are actually having a very calm voice. I already reduced the gain on mine to -2 on my transmitter but im still hearing clipping now and then. I just released a video about the DJI Mic where im talking about that. Do you have any good ideas on how to go about that? Did something change for you after this video. I’m kinda disappointed. I payed over 400 usd for my Mic in South America and now it has these flaws. Thanks 🙌🏼
Hey there, cool channel and nice reaview! I hear what you mean.
I think with lower frequencies you have to be very carefull with the handling of the audio signal. I don't think mine clipps out of the box. But my processing in Davinci Resolve is sometimes not on point. I edit most videos on the road without proper head-phones ( I really need to invest in some ). And I also noticed for some of my videos there's clipping because I added too much gain in post.
What I find interesting is, that out of the box, mine is very silent and I have to add a lot of gain and you have to reduce the gain. Although I have a calm voice, there shouldn't be such a huge difference between two people talking ;-) So this is weired and maybe they have some variance in their units - a big variance it would be then which is not good.
Did you try to only record the backup audio and play around with it? I the clipping the same as when you record directly to the IPhone?
PS: What a bummer that it doesn't work with all apps on your IPad. With my Dell (Windows) I have no problems connecting it and getting audio in any application.
PPS: I might get my hands on another microphone solution soon (cheaper one) and I will do some comparison. I like the DJI mic, but by now there are many solutions out there which cost nearly half the price. So it will be interesting to see how those perform.
@@mibreit-photo thank you for your long answer. I highly appreciate hearing your angle on this issue. The dji mic has a hefty price tag and for that amount i was just expecting more… magic, just like i said in my review 😆 ! Thanks for your good words to my review. Overall it is an interesting tool and i hope after playing around with the settings a bit, i will be able to get things more streamlined. Whats to consider is that in my review i didn’t do any audio post processing, just normalized the volume levels. So maybe with a bit more processing things will get better too. As for the clipping, i will have to try to reduce the gain a bit more and see what happens. Yea to be honest, my first thought when i heard the audio quality was that there is something wrong with my unit, but then i watched some other videos on the mic and saw that many people had similar sound issues. I even found an official dji video about the mic, where some official from dji was talking about the then new firmware update and the video is clipping all the time. I can’t believe someone at dji approved that. The ipad issue is actually going to be a problem in one year once apple is going to release Usbc iPhones. I hope they can address that with a software update. It would be a shame if new iPhones wouldnt work with the dji mic anymore. Let’s hope for the best and do some more testing. Im going to watch some more of your videos. I assume your newer videos are all shot with the dji mic?
This is fortunately a very common thing in the audio recording world.
No mic can handle the wide dynamic range of the real world and produce a 'balanced' recording without post processing.
You need specific software (or hardware) for that. Just like no camera sensor in the world can capture the high dynamic range that nature can throw at us.
So a good mic will have the ability to record the loudest sound without distorting and the quiet sounds without too much noise. That way you can compress the wav file later to get a more 'equal / balanced' end result.
Something to consider is that the DJI Mic (recorder) does not have a foam cover. So certain sounds from your voice will come in very loud. (lots of air moving)
These are mainly the 'T' and the 'S', since they produce the biggest movements in air.
We always use a foam cover on our mics and (on condensator mics) a windscreen. (not that fluffy thing, but a mesh that stops these hard airflows)
But that is in a recording studio environment.
To wrap this up, what you can do is find the right distance between you and the mic. The further away, the less clipping you will get, but you will also pick up more background noise. Also play with the gain (as you already did), lowering it so you don't get popping / clipping.
So I would always try to keep it as close as you can to your mouth and lower the gain until it does not clip.
Don't use auto gain, not in the DJI Mic NOR in the camera. You better do this in your editor. (compression with makeup gain)
In fact, I would not use the camera input at all, these cheap pre amps are another factor that can cause problems.
Use the onboard sound only in the Mic or the Receiver and sync them in post (takes 5 seconds if you make sure you have some hard transient like 2 claps or anything in the recording).
You can invest in a lavalier mic with a foam cover, which will dampen the T and S air flow a bit (less clipping).
This will also help getting the mic closer to your mouth (which, in theory, should give better results).
Or record with the wind cover on and compensate some of the high frequency loss in your editor.
No 'one size fits all' solution and not a 'set and forget' situation , but that is why there still are audio engineers in this world and why their recordings do sound good.
@@tricks-and-tips Thanks for the very detailed answer. It helps a lot. PS: I have actually another video showing how to autosync in Davinci, as I mostly don't record directly into the camera ;-)
@@mibreit-photo Nice. I'll have a look.
How do you feel about the DJI Mic now?
Do you get good (enough) quality audio out of it?
I'm a bit torn between a good studio mic (SM7B) or a mobile solution.
I know both have their place in a setup, but I rather don't spend money on both.
I feel most of my recording will be done indoor, but probably not 'at the desk' all the time, hence the interest in a smaller mic solution.
Another option for me would be a good lav mic and my Zoom field recorder (with mic input).
So I'm taking my time investigating my options here :)
Here's the downside of the DJI Mic, if you're using an iPhone you can only record mono so you can't have separate channels which is a friggin bummer Man...
For the love of God please make a lightning adapter that lets you keep the channel stereo on an iPhone. I just ordered a Rode SC15 cable to see if I can use this as a temporary workaround it works with the rode Go II, so when I get it in a couple days I'll test it out and let you know how it works.
Again, DJI please develop a new lightning plug so we can have the option of going mono or stereo with an iPhone…
I know I can record on each transmitter but it's just that much more work to bring it into the editing system and syncing it up. I'd rather be able just to drop it into the timeline and have separate Mic channels…
I dont film on cell phones that much and I havent tested Stereo on Android, so I dont know if its better than on iPhone.
PS: wouldnt it be great if Apple just ditched the proprietary lightning cable and used USB as anybody else. I thought theyd already done that but seems I m wrong ;-)
I just posted a video on my channel that has a solution for recording in stereo on an iPhone with a DJI Mic. After quite an exhausting search, I found one solution.
@@mibreit-photo maybe this gen with the iPhone 14 - it’s only been rumored for the last 2 gens… 3rd time is the charm?
Given how the Mic's work, you may want to do this -- Record audio to the iPhone using the mics together. I'm assuming at this point that the two channels going into the uPhone audio will be merged into a mono track. Backup record on each mic independently. At the end of the session, pull the video from the iPhone and the two mics into 3 files (1 MP4, 2 WAV). Bring them into your video editor, synch the backup tracks to the video, and you should have "stereo" as in one voice will be in one channel (ear) and the other voice will be in the other channel. remove (or save off) the blended mono channel with the original video and mix the audio as needed.
Has anyone experienced a massive drop off in gain using the DJI transmitter as a standalone recorder? The first 10 minutes may be the +6 gain that I have it programmed for, but then suddenly the audio will be barely audible.
Not yet. I have my longest recording around 15 minutes.
@@mibreit-photo Dang. I will contact DJI and hopefully they can help me troubleshoot.
2:10 still could hear hissing.
Don't use autolevels in your camera! This is where the noise came from!
Yes I know, I explain this in the video ;-) And since the gain from the DJI mic is pretty low on default, it has to be raised. In the Canon R5, if I add too much volume there, this adds much noise, so I try to keep it below 50% at least.
If you want to hear how it sounds, here's my first use: ua-cam.com/video/5RuOfH47fHg/v-deo.html
Car 🚗 noise check me Monitor on Car start without noise sound running sound should not come DJI MICROPHONE WIRELESS yes I hope you post a video
Still a ton of noise in your video!
I'd be curious to know why you chose the DJI system over the similarly priced (I think) RODE Wireless Go II or a 32 bit floating point model where you don't even have/need a gain control. I have a DJI drone but I regret it now after reading plausible accusations of the company assisting the Russian military in locating Ukrainian drone operators.
To be honest, as a viewer of Thomas Heatons Videos I wasnt so keen on getting the Rode Wireless Microphone. He seems to have to re-record a lot. Also my current Rode Lav Microphone doesnt always work properly. Seems to be Problem with the cable. So I didnt want Rode. The features of the Dji were exactly what I was looking for in an unbeatable form factor, so I bought that one.
PS. I dont know how/If Dji is involved in this conflict. If they do that, thats bad, No question
@@mibreit-photo Thanks for the insights into your decision process.
hello, please tell me what settings to put on the transmitter and receiver when connected to an iPhone in order to remove extraneous noise. subscribe and like from me!
I can’t believe he’s really making a video about best mic settings and the audio quality is trash lol