schoeps cmc641 as boom mic for interviews. Expensive as hell, excellent audio. Lesson: Invest in microphones, take care of them, they'll last you 10-20 years. (unlike everything else)
I have a rode videomic go for when I lav people and a Deity Vmic V3 Pro on camera for R&G. I'm in the market for a XLR shotgun mic for my shiny new FX3 and I'm open to suggestions!
As a nurse, one tip I've found to get medical tape off is to use hand sanitizer to wet the tape and the alcohol with break down the stickiness of the tape.
One of my own tips gleaned from an audio engineer at CBC Television is if you find your lav too ‘present’ you can mix 2 mics in post. So you can set your lav at say 70% and your boom or shotgun at 30% and voila you can have the best of both worlds by adding some room sound. Play with the percentages…
I've only recently gotten into film making, just silly things with my friends. But, after realizing I really need a lav, I looked to UA-cam for some help. This video answered just about every question I had, and then some I didn't even know I had. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Mark, you are a life saver. I have my first official documentary project coming up and you just happened to stumble into my recommended at the same time. I spent the last two days watching as many of your videos that I can and I have to say, the amount I have learned from you in just the last two days compared to ANY other documentary UA-camr is second to none. These videos have made me feel so comfortable with what I’m going to be working with. I have no doubts if you keep this up you are going to dominate this platform in the videography/photography sector. I appreciate you so much Mark. I can’t wait to see you become a giant here.
No wonder you have over 140,000 subscribers… you look after all our basic needs lighting, audio, etc but then you entertain us with your humour and inspire us with your elegant craft!! As a new a7Siii owner, (and fellow Canadian) I thank you for ‘upping my game’ !! KUDOS 🇨🇦👏😎
Love hearing more about audio. It's often the last thing to be considered when on set as a 1-2 man crew. I'd love to hear more about audio processing as well! He made several references to "you can fix it in post" so that would be neat to see some tips on as well!
Thanks for these insights! I've been working as a cam op for 20 years but never paid much attention to audio. Now stepping into the documentary world where we will be in remote places just me and the director so I must educate myself. You're videos are very much helping my step up my game. Thanks Mark!
No joke, this video was super informative. I've always thought "hey, I want to get my mic close to the subject's mouth, let me mic near the chin" not knowing how the chin affects that EQ.
I use a lav mic to make content for YT and I always get mega mega boom from it. I can't wait to try the tip of placing the mic in the center of the chest. Thanks a lot.
DANG! I spent $700 over the past year on my quest for "better" audio for my videos and I am still doing it all wrong. This video has helped a ton. I'll be ordering a new lavalier microphone today and connecting it to my RODE Wireless GOII. Thank you for the help you guys 👍👍
Loved it! That was really useful. I've found mic-ing up corporate peeps before interviews with my Senheizer G3's always a rushed process, and kinda uncomfortable too, because I'm very much in their 'personal space'. I joke about it to ease the awkwardness, but the 'rustle' often becomes noticeable about 5 mins into interview! I must get some tapes. Been thinking about it for ages.Thanks!
I'm always learning, and I did learn the hard way that if the top surface of a cylindrical lav (no foam screen) touches a person's skin, the sound is virtually gone (the person's voice just sounds like a very, very low electrical murmur). Well, this happened with a Sony ECM-44B (shaped like the Sennheiser shown at 1:25), but later experiments showed it was not the mic's fault. I had let someone (in a t-shirt) mic themselves and just did not give the task the attention it deserved.
Excellent guide. For Mark, if you wear your baseball cap a lot in your videos, you could attach the lav mic to your cap's visor. That would be easy to conceal and make part of the hat, and it will still give a good distance from the mouth with minimal occlusion from the acoustic shadow cast by the head. Depending on eyewear, another place to hide a lav mic could be near the hinges and screws at the side of the glasses, but that depends a lot on the glasses styling. Maybe for content creators who shoot at a specific angle this is also a good choice. Nothing beats the hidden method you propose in this video, so I just thought I would share two more ways here.
The benefit of micing on the body is a lot more low end from the chest. That’s why most UA-cam videos have unprofessional sounding audio. There’s no depth in their voices.
Quick tip I learned during a masterclass (might not be the best way to do it) was to clip the lav to the bra like you would on a collar. works on some cases :)
That ball cap you are wearing can be an excellent place to hide a lav. Under the brim (which is black) use black gaff or paper tape to fix mic in place. Run the cable over the head and drop down the back of the shirt. Long hair will help hide the cable. No problem with head turns, as the hat moves with your head. Only works, of course, if the hat stays on!
When it was still available, I used Spetralayers Pro to remove ugly noise, even wind. You could see the wind noise in the display, select it using Photoshop-type tools, and then delete it.
This is going to be such a huge help! Your videos always leave me a little better equipped. Sound is one of my current challenges. New to the world of visual arts from music production and computer engineering. Thanks!!!
Not sure if it's been linked to yet, but was hoping to get recommendations on the tape preferred by Dane please. I know he said Snot tape & medical tape, but wondering if a particular type/brand of medical tape is better? Thanks
Thank you for the honest review. I have the same feeling, from the construction and design the Rhino concept has many advantages compared to Edelkrone, but if the accuracy, repeatability etc. is not given it is useless. The hope is that it is only an software issue which could be fixed with a good develper.
Really enjoyed this. Just started using a lav for my videos this week so i'm looking forward to putting a few bits of this video into practice! Cheers man.
I want to buy some snot tape but I want to make sure I get the one that works best for skin. Could you post the link of the one you referenced in the video?
kind of makes me want to return the lavs I just got and use boom instead. just didn't want the hassle of mic stands, boom arms, attachments for those mics, cables, etc
Thank you Mark and Dane, this was super helpful for someone like me that knows near nothing with so much misinformation out there. But your tips were great, and the explanation makes a lot of sense! Thanks for taking the time!
Wow thank you. I hope to get this video project and I thought about doing the audio myself for 8 people. After watching this, I’m definitely going to hire a audio engineer.
Merci pour ces explication claires et pratiques. Je suis preneur de son pour des tournages depuis seulement 2 ans (anciennement preneur de son de studio pendant plus de 20 ans). Je rencontre des difficultés que je n'avais pas prévues. J'apprends tous les jours.
I was always taught to "fuggin over n under" all cables. Is there a reason Dane doesn't do that when coiling the lav cables? Thanks and cheers, fellas!
Fantastic. Excellent. Thanks. I've watched several tutorials and I think that's the first time I've heard the lav and boom directly compared. I think I am going to try to boom whenever possible over lav. Thanks again! (Also, going to upgrade my lavs. It's time.)
It's funny that you came out with this video right now. I have a pretty good Sennheiser shotgun mic, and I recently thought to myself, "I need to have something to lav up my subjects." So, I just bought a couple of Rode Wireless Go II mics for that purpose. And then, as if you were reading from my recently purchased items from Adorama, you come out with a video about how to lav people properly. Thanks for the tips, boss :)
What a fantastic video. What is the product called, the little square plastic item. "The one I use the most is this one here" at 3:50? I've ordered a whole pack of COS-11 mounting kit and still can't find as good item haha
Great video! Would love to see how and where Dane lav's corporate clients and females where taping the lav to the chest isn't an option. I struggle with this!
Hello.I m sound technichian from Morocco.I thank you a lot for this vidéo very useful and i would liké to Ask whene Can i buy the Snot tape and médical tape that you used on Line .thanks again
What's your favourite mic to use?
The Boya Lapel mic,I totally love it.
schoeps cmc641 as boom mic for interviews. Expensive as hell, excellent audio. Lesson: Invest in microphones, take care of them, they'll last you 10-20 years. (unlike everything else)
Love this video and tips.
I have watch this episode in the art of documentary several times.
And it helped me a lot.
Thanks for the reminder
We love our schoeps shotgun 💯
I have a rode videomic go for when I lav people and a Deity Vmic V3 Pro on camera for R&G. I'm in the market for a XLR shotgun mic for my shiny new FX3 and I'm open to suggestions!
As a nurse, one tip I've found to get medical tape off is to use hand sanitizer to wet the tape and the alcohol with break down the stickiness of the tape.
One of my own tips gleaned from an audio engineer at CBC Television is if you find your lav too ‘present’ you can mix 2 mics in post. So you can set your lav at say 70% and your boom or shotgun at 30% and voila you can have the best of both worlds by adding some room sound. Play with the percentages…
so smart
It's just what all production does
Yeah that’s a regular thing to do in recording instruments too! Only thing to look out for is any phase issues.
@@HesselFolkertsma yes... phasing can be a huge issue!
great advice. I think about this kind of stuff way too absolutely so I appreciate the guidance of blending the two, Pierre 👍🏻
I love listening to people who knows what they're talking about even if I'm clueless about the topic
Me too. As you can see I was clueless
As a sound recordist for twenty years I still got some good information from your video, thanks
I've only recently gotten into film making, just silly things with my friends. But, after realizing I really need a lav, I looked to UA-cam for some help. This video answered just about every question I had, and then some I didn't even know I had. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
You’re welcome mate!
Mark, you are a life saver. I have my first official documentary project coming up and you just happened to stumble into my recommended at the same time. I spent the last two days watching as many of your videos that I can and I have to say, the amount I have learned from you in just the last two days compared to ANY other documentary UA-camr is second to none. These videos have made me feel so comfortable with what I’m going to be working with. I have no doubts if you keep this up you are going to dominate this platform in the videography/photography sector. I appreciate you so much Mark. I can’t wait to see you become a giant here.
He already is a giant!!
Agree, this was amazingly useful
I am the sound person tomorrow for the first time on a documentary ❤
No wonder you have over 140,000 subscribers… you look after all our basic needs lighting, audio, etc but then you entertain us with your humour and inspire us with your elegant craft!! As a new a7Siii owner, (and fellow Canadian) I thank you for ‘upping my game’ !! KUDOS 🇨🇦👏😎
Love hearing more about audio. It's often the last thing to be considered when on set as a 1-2 man crew. I'd love to hear more about audio processing as well! He made several references to "you can fix it in post" so that would be neat to see some tips on as well!
3:54 links to all of these mounts?
i lav this content
Sounds good
I see what you did there haha
It’s clear when you get info from a true, lived it and breathed it, expert. No bullshit, just here are the facts. Thanks Dane 🙏
Thx great video!! A link to the snot tape would be awesome as several others have asked too…
Thanks for these insights! I've been working as a cam op for 20 years but never paid much attention to audio. Now stepping into the documentary world where we will be in remote places just me and the director so I must educate myself. You're videos are very much helping my step up my game. Thanks Mark!
That was really interesting and very professional talk about the subject, thanks for that!
No joke, this video was super informative.
I've always thought "hey, I want to get my mic close to the subject's mouth, let me mic near the chin" not knowing how the chin affects that EQ.
I use a lav mic to make content for YT and I always get mega mega boom from it. I can't wait to try the tip of placing the mic in the center of the chest. Thanks a lot.
DANG! I spent $700 over the past year on my quest for "better" audio for my videos and I am still doing it all wrong. This video has helped a ton. I'll be ordering a new lavalier microphone today and connecting it to my RODE Wireless GOII. Thank you for the help you guys 👍👍
How long have you used the go2? any issues with the power buttons not turning off?
@@flightographist I hold the power button down for like five seconds and they does it.
@@JonathanSixtos I tried that several times, the only thing that worked was to drain the battery and reset- pretty useless I returned it.
Actually the best video I've seen on this fr answered all my questions thank you
The video I was looking for. How to wear a lav mic properly! Thank you for this video!
Loved it! That was really useful. I've found mic-ing up corporate peeps before interviews with my Senheizer G3's always a rushed process, and kinda uncomfortable too, because I'm very much in their 'personal space'. I joke about it to ease the awkwardness, but the 'rustle' often becomes noticeable about 5 mins into interview! I must get some tapes. Been thinking about it for ages.Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful tips! I didn't think about the sound phasing when you move your hands. I'll definitely keep that in mind going forward!
This video is gold, never thought of that. Thanks Mark! You're the legend
I'm always learning, and I did learn the hard way that if the top surface of a cylindrical lav (no foam screen) touches a person's skin, the sound is virtually gone (the person's voice just sounds like a very, very low electrical murmur). Well, this happened with a Sony ECM-44B (shaped like the Sennheiser shown at 1:25), but later experiments showed it was not the mic's fault. I had let someone (in a t-shirt) mic themselves and just did not give the task the attention it deserved.
you can put a fig of 8 tie in the cable that helps stop pulling.
Hi Dane! You were my first subscriber on UA-cam and thats a fact.
Miss you dude!
Dane is a legend. He’s the reason we know each other also
Hey guys! Hello from Russia! Big fan of Jesse and big fan of Mark. Your videos are so informative an inspiring!
💥 Great tip about lav placement closer to the chest! 👍 I imagine so many of us have been doing it wrong. And now we know!
Excellent guide. For Mark, if you wear your baseball cap a lot in your videos, you could attach the lav mic to your cap's visor. That would be easy to conceal and make part of the hat, and it will still give a good distance from the mouth with minimal occlusion from the acoustic shadow cast by the head. Depending on eyewear, another place to hide a lav mic could be near the hinges and screws at the side of the glasses, but that depends a lot on the glasses styling. Maybe for content creators who shoot at a specific angle this is also a good choice. Nothing beats the hidden method you propose in this video, so I just thought I would share two more ways here.
The benefit of micing on the body is a lot more low end from the chest. That’s why most UA-cam videos have unprofessional sounding audio. There’s no depth in their voices.
How do you/ do you mic women different (position of the lav) ? would love to have tips on that 👌
Quick tip I learned during a masterclass (might not be the best way to do it) was to clip the lav to the bra like you would on a collar. works on some cases :)
Use vampire clips on bra.
@@lovecallen As a male: Instructions unclear, send help asap.
MB always dropping those knowledge bombs. Thanks bro!
That ball cap you are wearing can be an excellent place to hide a lav. Under the brim (which is black) use black gaff or paper tape to fix mic in place. Run the cable over the head and drop down the back of the shirt. Long hair will help hide the cable. No problem with head turns, as the hat moves with your head. Only works, of course, if the hat stays on!
Great idea thanks!
not gnna lie, that little lav is so cute haha, cant believe that little things gets audio quality like that
When it was still available, I used Spetralayers Pro to remove ugly noise, even wind. You could see the wind noise in the display, select it using Photoshop-type tools, and then delete it.
This is going to be such a huge help! Your videos always leave me a little better equipped. Sound is one of my current challenges.
New to the world of visual arts from music production and computer engineering.
Thanks!!!
Nice video!
You didn't say where we can get the little black capsule to stick on your chest.
About to upgrade/replace my smart lav kit, so this vlog can just in time. Thanks for always sharing great topics.
Not sure if it's been linked to yet, but was hoping to get recommendations on the tape preferred by Dane please. I know he said Snot tape & medical tape, but wondering if a particular type/brand of medical tape is better? Thanks
The impression of your mom killed me! 🤣 “itss sso good to ssee you, I’m sso exsssssited about the art of documentary”
Good stuff guys, couldve done with this on a job yesterday...that lav you mentioned at the start... AUD $600 jeepers!!!
This is crazy! I had no idea that the mic could go underneath the shirt!
Great video. Just subscribed. Thanks for putting this content out. Super helpful! Thanks to Dane.
I use spray adhesive remover for my stoma bags which also removes it from hair, maybe that would help with removing the tape from their chest!
Very good! I’ve been doing this for a long time, but always eager to pick up a new trick. I had never heard of snot tape. I’ve heard of a snot rag…
Great demo. Sound is always the easiest to overlook until you're stuck in the edit dealing with it.
I keep going back to this video, thank you again!
9:00 when they are sweaty i use superglue, that's why all the actors hate me, but it sticks for 7 days straight without rubbing.
Any links to the mentioned tapes? The skin tape and the snot tape? Great Video! cheers
Thank you for the honest review. I have the same feeling, from the construction and design the Rhino concept has many advantages compared to Edelkrone, but if the accuracy, repeatability etc. is not given it is useless. The hope is that it is only an software issue which could be fixed with a good develper.
Really enjoyed this. Just started using a lav for my videos this week so i'm looking forward to putting a few bits of this video into practice! Cheers man.
Thanks so much for this. It's my new reference video. 👍
I want to buy some snot tape but I want to make sure I get the one that works best for skin. Could you post the link of the one you referenced in the video?
This was so helpful for someone who doesn't know too much about audio. Can't wait to "level" up my audio.
Nice demo video. Have never tried the wind screen on the COS-11 when using the rubber mount.....will have to give it a try.
Thanks from the Brooklyn Debate League!
*Infinite Thanks, Mark and Dane! You guys are Legends!* 🏆
What about sticking the mic to the inside surface of the tee or shirt❓
starting to fall in love with you thank you man.
The feeling is mutual
@@markbone ❤️ aw.
Always love your content Mark!
thanks mate!
So good! Great to see Dane!
DANE!!! He's such a sweetheart.
Great video. Great to hear more on capturing good sound, and how to do it.
Really great video dude. Some super helpful tips
kind of makes me want to return the lavs I just got and use boom instead. just didn't want the hassle of mic stands, boom arms, attachments for those mics, cables, etc
This is awesome very helpful. That Lav sounded really good you can barely tell the difference between lav and boom mic
Amazing. That tape to the side of the body is 👌
Thank you Mark and Dane, this was super helpful for someone like me that knows near nothing with so much misinformation out there. But your tips were great, and the explanation makes a lot of sense! Thanks for taking the time!
So useful, thanks man! Really appreciate you sharing this with us.
Investing in some as we speak. Coming at the perfect time as always
Wow thank you. I hope to get this video project and I thought about doing the audio myself for 8 people. After watching this, I’m definitely going to hire a audio engineer.
This was great, very dense video with all those pro tips
Merci pour ces explication claires et pratiques. Je suis preneur de son pour des tournages depuis seulement 2 ans (anciennement preneur de son de studio pendant plus de 20 ans). Je rencontre des difficultés que je n'avais pas prévues. J'apprends tous les jours.
I was always taught to "fuggin over n under" all cables. Is there a reason Dane doesn't do that when coiling the lav cables? Thanks and cheers, fellas!
absolutely love these videos!!! They always have great take aways even for people that have been in the industry for years :)
Interesting stuff. Living and learning and eating
Very good Video as always Mark! I m learning so much about your videos! Please keep going.. thx!!! best regards from zürich
Fantastic. Excellent. Thanks. I've watched several tutorials and I think that's the first time I've heard the lav and boom directly compared. I think I am going to try to boom whenever possible over lav. Thanks again! (Also, going to upgrade my lavs. It's time.)
Such a timely video for me! Thank you for this video. What is "Snot Tape"?
Gooey, non-residue double sided tape
Is there a product name for ‘snot’ tape? I just can’t imagine going to a store and asking for Phlegm tape!
Thank God for this video. This is exactly what I've been looking for.
the last part was very informative and awsome
Very dope video. Definitely saving this as a "go to" video for tip when needing to mic using the lavalier mic. Keep up the dope content! #YupYup
The legendary mark bone 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love it when I learn something useful!
Thank you so much for sharing this! Thank you Dane, for sharing your knowledge as well. :-)
wow, great advice! thanks guys
Great video. This actually teaches something useful in an efficient and fun way. Thanks!
Excellent stuff, my friends, thanks a lot!
Good tips yall! Notes taken
Thanks a lot!! awesome info. Would be very nice to know how you deal with women in such situations.
Very informative, thanks for sharing!
It's funny that you came out with this video right now. I have a pretty good Sennheiser shotgun mic, and I recently thought to myself, "I need to have something to lav up my subjects." So, I just bought a couple of Rode Wireless Go II mics for that purpose. And then, as if you were reading from my recently purchased items from Adorama, you come out with a video about how to lav people properly. Thanks for the tips, boss :)
People should call these what they are: lapel mics. Actual lavalier mics (larger and hung around the neck) haven’t been used since the 1970s.
They were named after French lavalliere necklaces with a pendant, first popular in the 17th century. I’m pedantic but I’m right.
Nice and handy. Thank you.
What a fantastic video. What is the product called, the little square plastic item. "The one I use the most is this one here" at 3:50? I've ordered a whole pack of COS-11 mounting kit and still can't find as good item haha
That is the Sanken RM11
YES! YES! YES! THANK YOU SIR!
Great as always! Ordering snot and medical tape right now! :D
Great video! Would love to see how and where Dane lav's corporate clients and females where taping the lav to the chest isn't an option. I struggle with this!
We have all that info in the rest of the video over on theartofdocumentary.com Dane talks all about lav’ing women and how to navigate that
Hello.I m sound technichian from Morocco.I thank you a lot for this vidéo very useful and i would liké to Ask whene Can i buy the Snot tape and médical tape that you used on Line .thanks again
For me its always the boom mics that sound better, but lavs are useful & this video is great
Great information, have you had a chance to work in Albuquerque
Really enjoyed that man. Thanks so much.