I was looking at the CB650R, because I'm a returning old rider and didn't want a "killer" bike. I was in love with the 650 and was really close to getting one. Then I was at a Yamaha dealer with my wife looking for a bike for her, when we saw a used 2020 CB1000R sitting in the corner. My wife walked over to it and said, how about this? At first I thought she meant for me, and I asked. And she said, no for you silly. I sat on it and was like double in love. Then the dealer started it and I was shaking with excitement. I found my baby. I was worried though, that it was a "killer" bike, but so many reviewer like you have said, "it's NOT about being sporty, it's about being comfortable and looking good". Well. That's exactly what I want. And of course, I want to enjoy the twisties a little too. At any rate. Going to your next video about the CB. I'm hoping you'll explain more about the suspension. Many reviewers say, "front forks are great", rear shock is replaceable. Off I go.....
Love that rear seat cowl it has. I'm loving the fact that manufacturers are making more and more future looking bikes. It's the cyberpunk future some have always wanted.
I was stunned when I first saw the CB1000R(like most of us were)...But it seems, from the rides and reviews I watch of it, that the bike's excitement doesn't go much past its looks...
Roy Batty good comment, I LOvE aprilias v4 tuono, I went MT10 and decated it and sounds so much like the aprilia v4 it's crazy: I know that heresy but gotta hear Rossi's crossplane 4 and you'll agree . Mt10'as the only Japanese supernaked and half the cost of a SDR or tuono Factory is a no brainer .
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 Half the cost of a SDR or Tuono? Not in Canada it's not. $3k more for a Tuono Factory vs an MT-10 here, and the Tuono RR costs almost exactly the same.
I have had one for a couple of weeks. You wont get the shock to improve as the rebound dampening cannot be dialed in, the adjuster does nothing at all. Ordered a Nitron today which should sort the handling. Forks are good and respond well to adjustment. Junk the euro 4 stuff and you will get the midrange back. For me way better looking than the MT10 and better built.
@@petea1663 Hi not sure the part number. I have ordered the NT R1 shock. I called up and it is £460 plus delivery. They were really helpful, the sales guy had the previous gen CB and knew a lot about them.
danny curtis lololol SO agreed they both spent more time giggling and on 1 wheel than 2 lol the ONLY jam Owners supernaked is a no brainer and got mine new for HALf the he cost of a SDR or tuono Factory no Factory and it's quicker to 60mph lol. In utah US a SDR was $17,500 new plus all the taxes and fees , my new MT10 was $9,200 no dealer fees and was bought or of state so no tax either lol was the greatest buy I've had and no one issue !!! Have you decat yours???? Was the best decision I made!! Sounds like an Aprilia v4 or not far off rossis CP4 even with the Factory can left on. I sold mine to a famous UA-cam who vloggs on it now (the muscle biker) lives in my county and i only sold becaue of divorce but have decided to buy another bike and for the first time In 14 bikes owned almost all sport bikes, I'll buy something I've already owned ,..another MT10!!! No doubt!!!! 2 years owning and ZERO issues, 6,000 miles put on , and ONLY for more fun as time went on! Most fun bike I've ever owned!!! Good comment!!
Den Crane sure he did. I watched both videos too and it helped me have some faith in it when the professionals love it but I test rose EVERY naked and supernaked of 2016/17/18 and went MT10 no brainer ! V4 like sound and character, performance nearliy that of the king of supernakeds hit price of the base nakeds of Suzuki and Honda. Was so clear !
Your really are the best at telling us how a bike feels, not just the stats which we can easily get off the internet. The quality of your videos is the best, I think you have really stepped up a notch and I hope your subs grows as it really should. Don’t care for this bike though, but it will last forever as it’s a Honda. 👍👍.
I studied this bike for a year and just had to have one. Found a leftover 2018 in black - which is what I wanted anyway. Still too much silver on it for my taste, so I blacked it all out - a real head turner. No, it's not the baddest bike on the block, but it's certainly the best looking. Besides, in normal use, who needs more than 145 HP? I traded in a VFR1200F for this bike and I'm happy as hell with it. It'll keep up with the VFR up to 80 MPH, and believe me, 467 pounds is a lot more fun than 600 pounds. Smoothest engine in the world, and, yes, the muffler sounds just fine. Plenty of torque in any gear - even in 6th at 25 MPH it's got smooth strong acceleration. I've never ever been burned by a Honda, from my Super-90's in the '60's, my first true love CB750 in 1970, a CL450, V45 750, V65 Sabre, V65 Magna, VFR1200F, and now this beauty. I love this bike. Call it Naked, call it NeoSports Café, call it whatever you want - it's a great bike.
This is going to be my second bike. I'm a beginner rider. I'm currently riding a Honda Shadow. Learning how to ride. I want to get a sports bike next, and I absolutely love the naked bike look. Plus, I like how you can set different profiles, so, a relatively new rider like myself, I dont end up eating shit on my first ride with the bike. I'll keep my cruiser for my longer rides, and the CB1000R for my short commutes, and occasional rides down the back roads for fun.
Great vid as always Chops, thanks. Having seen your review and TMF's review, I'm not too sure where this bike is designed to fit in the market with all the competition, but it does look nice.
Great review, fella, thanks for posting... I have a demo on Sunday versus Ducati's 2019 Hypermotard... I've been on Ducati's twins for around 10 years now so I'm intrigued to see what it's like to get back on an inline 4
Marc Davis did u try the MT10? Curious. I tried the tuono Factory, SDR, s1kr, and everything else and went MT10 , got it for HALF the price of the SDR and $4800 less than the s1k and has that crossplane 4 v4 like sound BuT loved the s1k to be fair! Amazing bike!!!! Do u have the magnetic suspension etc? I LOvED that and the heated grips!!!!
Good work Mr Chops and I have to say your sound quality seems to have gone up a level too. You can really get a nice sense of the sound and character of the bike coming through. 36 k subs not to be sniffed at but you deserve a lot more. One of the best out there. Cheers
My dads an old man who misses sport bike riding. He’s been a die hard Honda fan since his dirt bike racing days long before I was born. Really trying to convince him to pick one of these up. Outright performance isn’t important to him anymore as long as he’s comfortable and it’s fast enough to be fun. He’s my dirt bike riding buddy but I’d love to have him back on the street too.
Gurpreet Bajwa hope u tried a mt10. Well if u want performance anyway;..oh and cruise co trip. Lol the performance of the MT10 compared to the 1000r and gax1000s is next level, it's why the MT10 gets tested on group tests with the supernakeds ,..super Duke 1290r, Aprilia tuono Factory , BMW s1000r etc and why the cb1000r and Suzuki gax1000s gets test and labeled as a base naked . If you're jsut lookin. To commute and be comfy, good call! Ifnu want performance,..hurry andtest a MT10 first:
We have the same jacket bro . Awesome review. I have a busa 11 a blacbird 2000 special edition and a cbr 07. This bike is on the bucket list when i turn 40 (im 32:p) Awesome take me back to my early 20s feelings gonna be. Great channel man . Respect
Jonny Taylor ya after riding I went MT10 ,..performance wise it and the gsx1000s were SO far off the mark . A reason they aren't considered supernakeds . I LOVEeeeee the tuono!!!! Really wanted a Factory but we don't have Aprilia dealer within 1,200 miles of me so maintenance scared me ,.so I went with a MT10 , decated sound a lot like the Aprilia v4 shockingly wit the he crossplane 4, was also nearly half the cost of a factory in the US. But if we'd had a dealer near may have been a different story!
The 4th gear test is silly. It really depends on the engine settings. This engine is designed to burst out torque from +6.500 RPM = steep torque curve. With your 4th gear in 20 Mph, you were basically inside a 4-6RPM torque curve drop. Simply put, this engine is designed to be driven sporty from +6.500 RPM or smooth 4.000-6.000 RPM. One has to get used to each bike individually over a longer period of time to master it properly. The final performance is mostly based on the driver ;) since all of the modern bikes are truly powerful and beautiful machines!
It looks nice, but test after riding it, I still haven't found a reason to get rid of my GSX-S1000F. I test rode the Honda a couple times because I was thinking hard to buy it, but I'm going to put a quick shifter in, upgrade the suspension, and keep on riding the Suzuki. I've been spoiled by the front fairing and the wind reduction from smashing your body on the highway, and that K5 engine.
ye i got the f as well , after trying the mt10 and super duke gt but as a all rounder i still think the f is a better bike yes the other 2 are more madder just , havnt tried this honda yet
Hey. I have the naked gsxs and really glad to hear you have tested the Honda and are sticking to the Suzuki. I've been lusting after the Honda but glad you reckon it's not worth the switch. Every time I hop on my gsxs I grin all the way to work. It's all I need if I'm being honest. Btw, you said you were going to put a quick shifter on it. I've been told by a technician who worked on the snatch throttle for me that there is a quick shifter available in the ecu. You just need to enable it. Upshifts only though as far as I'm aware. Getting it activated soon on mine! Enjoy the ride!
@@DevRSVR I wouldn't doubt it. Mine is a 2016 so it had the snatchy throttle issue that had to be flashed and cleaned up a bit. I still have to get the module that goes on the shifter linkage to allow it to quick shift. I'll investigate a bit more to see how plug and play it is. I always encourage people to test ride for themselves. Sometimes you find something better, but sometimes you find out what you have is still great. The GSXS takes minor tweaks but it will keep up with most naked liter bikes today.
Bredaxe have u tried the MT10? I rode the SD1290r , tuono v4r Factory, gsx1000-s , this bike and a few others and I went with the '17 MT10 just the slightest bit under the tuono in performance but I paid nearly HALF a tip on Factory for my new MT10 ,..no brainer. But the gsx1000s and the cb1000 were SO lacking in performance compared to the mt10. YOU start to understand why everyone puts the MT10 into Supernaked classification while the other Japanese nakeds are jsut nakeds . Cool bikes but different level. Really hoped worth suzukis success of the gsxr and hondas 1000rr that they'd match yamahas naked R1 but failed miserably. Ugh. If u haven't tried it , Yamaha guy or not , I'd advise giving it a whirl: at least watch lambchop test and 44 teeth /Barron von grumbles. Here's soenthing you'll see In heir tests u won't see at all In Hondas or suzukis ,..wheelies on wheelies on wheelies! It's a supernaked, the others are not. Sadly. How cool would it have been to have Honda do a 1000rr version in a supernaked! The MT10 took the motorcycle life world by storm and won bike of the year all over ; why Honda and Suzuki dropped the ball SOooooo badly is beyond me. Leave the weak performance to the 750's and 900's ,..a naked liter bike based on the supersport should be a super naked boy a slow poor performing bike and the cb1000rand gsx1000s ARE slow by comparison: it's sad. Hando disapointed me as much as Suzuki did.
Guilio Barresi u took the f over an mt-10???? I guess comfort wise it's a good call hit seemed seriously disappointing performance wise to the mt10. The MT10 is the only Japanese supernaked at half the price of a SDR or tuono Factory ,..but very similar performance numbers and even better in some cases. The F was as disappointing to me as the gsx1000s was but comfort wiseni guess it wa better but a liter bike supernaked in not looking for comfort , I'll buy a mt07 if doing that. Lol . Just my 2 cents.
I really like the look of these, and it' possibly one of the few bikes I'd consider swapping the Blade for (others being the Diavel, and the SuperDuke). But not sure I'd be disappointed with the excitement levels compared to Blade. Sounds like I'd be mising the Blade pretty quickly....but that Single-Sided swing arm tho!
We really need a follow up on this AFTER the suspension is setup. I don't like to hear that it's "bouncy" and not great in the twisties. I wonder if it's "light and nimble" as well as "neutral" in the corners, that's what I look for. I love the "easy to fall in" when you're in the twisties. The bike can either be adjusted to work right or it has to be modified. I'm a little tired of bikes that require reworking the suspension when they should have all the quality and adjustments needed to make it work. Having to replace shocks and forks on a new bike usually means you've bought the wrong bike...
It's a great looking bike and overall is a very build quality bike, as for the suspension deficiency for sport riding it would not be a problem for me there many suspension upgrade kits from different manufacturers to choose from, Ohlins and HyperPro are my prefered manufacturers, adding a more sportier handlebar from Rizoma, Puig or Renthal and a steering damper will solve all the lacking sport performance from factory set up. Overall is a great machine to have fun with a very unique style to it, just needs a very few affordable upgrades, I would buy one without any doubt.
Smart looking machine. Judging by the amount of suspension travel on the forks, the ride would improve with a bit of stiffening. But then again, your normal Honda rider is closer to 10 stones than 20... 😉
Interesting looking bike but I'm even more convinced I wouldn't change my MT10 for one. 70mph in first is sports bike territory, might be more fun going one tooth down on the front sprocket. Cheers and thanks for the review.
Nice review. It's looks a lot prettier in your vid than even in the Honda promo stuff. My only very minor dislike of the looks is that horrid grey mock dial glued to the TFT. As for it's character, it's obviously not slow but just seems a bit vanilla & Honda bland to me but I haven't ridden it to be fair. From your reviews the GSXS seems a little more hooligan (fun?) than the Honda?
These Neo Sports Cafe bikes look spot on! I'm seriously considering getting a CB650R... By the way John, where did you make your custom keychain? That thing looks great, man. I'm looking for a company to make some keychains with my logo, but I'm struggling to find one that does what I want. Cheers.
Can say that I completely agree, it doesn't feel sporty. Turning is not something that you buy this bike for. The MT09 feels like a bicycle compared to this monster...
Did Look at this bike but brought the triumph speed triple RS, glad I did that bike loves the twisties, was worried I would get bored with the Honda, the speed felt far more premium when I sat on them back to back. 👍🏻🇬🇧
It’s all a matter of opinion, luckily we can all express one, not taking anything away from the Honda, but before I got the speed I had the Mt09, there’s a massive difference between them, just wanted the triumph more than the Honda, I got a good deal with quickshifter thrown in, and maybe being a Brit in oz felt great buying it. 😉
Nah, do admit I am a girl that likes her triple engines. Have a 2012 Daytona for road and track she runs good, will see how the new engine 2018 goes in the speed. In the 30+ years of riding always had Japanese bikes just wanted a change do have a fireblade to ride still, as long as I can ride I’m happy 😁
Speedtona did u try the MT10? Out accelerates the tripl res, SUoerfuke and Aprilia tuono 0-60 and half the cost, at least here in the Us. LOVE the triple ra tho FYI. 👌👌 I rode me all and couldn't pass up the MT10 st half the cost of the superduke and tuono Factory.
will M have u tried the MT10??? That crossplane 4 is next level!!! I've rode nothing but supersport liter bike all my life and loved the superduke and tuono Factory hit that mt10 crossplane 4 sounding like Rossis MotoGP bike when u decat it is next level! Quickest 0-60 of em all . I love the price of the mt09 but I only paid $9,200 for my new MT10 in the Us , was jsut a hair more Han the 09 but feels much quicker, cwn go wrong with either!!! California is having trouble selling all the mt10's they ordered so worth it to buy out of state and ship it, dealer here wanted $13k plus all the fees Cali dealer wanted $9200 , no dealer fees to set up fees and only $160 to ship it to utah. No brainer.
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My kind of bike, I hate twins, lots of torque and lots of vibration (so called carácter...) I love the smoothness and linear power band of a good double balancer inline 4.
Seriously, V4 (Aprilia's firing order, not the chainsaw VFR's), V-twin, parallel twin with 270 crank or cross-plane I-4 would give this bike so much more character. For some reason i don't think this I-4 sound fits the styling of this bike.
I don't believe in my opinion that having the number plate around the wheel is the right choice for this bike. I could understand it on something that isn't a performance machine, or not likely for people to want to wheelie on... who knows why this is the option they finished on
Michael Large I know was shocked,..heated grips but no cruise????? That's a random choice. The MT10 changed the Japanese game by adding cruise and supernaked performance ,..thought Honda might add heated grips AFTEr cruise lol jsut sadly disapointed in the cb1000r , was so disapointed in suzukis attemp ,..Yamaha set the bar high with the first Japanese supernaked,. Really thought Suzuki and Honda would follow but seriously disapointed with their horrible performance liter nakeds. I don't get it. U can't buy gsx750 or Yamaha mt07 if u want an efficient comfortable naked,..the flagship naked for a company should be 100% based off its sueprsport brother ,..wh build a gsx1000s with crappy performance compared to the MT10 when u have the gex750s already? The cb is so disapointed. I rode one and had an MT10 and was doooo disapointed i turning around about about 4 miles to take it back I was SO disapointed and NOT confidence inspired!!! !!!!
I like it, but it is still feels like a updated cb1000r(a) they changed the looks and added electrical gizmos and they even remade the frame a bit but it is not an entirely new cb1000r.
Pillokun agreed I was really really really hoping Honda would follow yamaha lead, NOT suzukis,...Yamaha built a naked R1 (MT10) the first ever Japanese supernaked with supernaked performance,...Suzuki built a bike that's not much better than their base naked gsx750S ,..such a dispoinment! Was hoping g after at the success of yamahas MT10 at 1/2 the cost of the other superb nakeds was SO thinking Honda wound build a killer supernaked based onthe 1000rr,...was sooooo disapointed when I saw this. Looks kinda cool but retro like the xrs900,..clearly not a tracksble performer. Jsut a disappointment to me personally . Expected more from Honda. Ugh.
I took the demo bike out today and I was really disappointed, the gearing is all wrong 6th gear felt like 4th, the quick shifter was ok going down the box but was really snatchy going up unless you short shifted through the gears, I felt the bars were too narrow, I was running in standard mode and the fuelling was just not right, the suspension was awful you felt every bump on the road, i really expected the bike to be much better than it was.
Not sure how pricing stacks up on your side of the Atlantic, but I don't see why anyone would buy one of these when there are so many other bikes around the same MSRP (GSX-S1K: 13.3k, CB1KR: 15k, MT-10,: 16.2k, S1KR: 15.7k, Tuono RR: 16.2k) It should be priced similarly to the Suzuki, IMO. Lack of fully adjustable rear shock? On a 15 grand bike?? (Canadian) Other than the single sided swing arm, I don't see the point.
Great review lambchop, I rode one fairly recently and was very disappointed comfort wise compared to my mt10. The ride was comfortable and it was a decently fun bike buuuuut performance wise was disappointed. Honestly lambchop as a company with motoGP history I was reallllllly hoping they they would try to compete more with the first ever Japanese supernaked MT10. I also missed the character of the crossplane 4 of the MT10 or the v4 of the aprilia and twin of superduke. The audio track of it is A bit disappointing compared to the engine character and sound of the others. It's cool bi really really hoped Honda would go more agress the than a retro modern. Ugh.
It looks great, but after watching the gsxs1000 reviews the suzuki although not as teched up is the more faster and more planted of the two. Would you go with cb1000r or Gsxs1000, looking more towards the gsxs at the minute. Cheers chops
I'm surprised they geared it so long, I think naked and super sport bikes should have the exact same engines, and have a better balance of power vs torque and the same fast gearing too, who needs to go over 160mph, acceleration = more fun more of the time in my mind :)
@Malcolm ReynoldsYeah, of course you have...Funny how the armchair boys mouth about speed the most. Make sure you put on a really loud exhaust so everyone at starbucks can see how 'fast' you go in a straight line.
Haha was going to say the same thing.. the amount of times i heard this too!!😂 you only hear it from the wannabee riders who couldnt even ride a push bike🤣
Malcolm Reynolds Have you ridden the CB1000R and GSXS1000?? just curious, I AM a big old pussy. I went 140 MPH on my 86VFR750 once and decided that was NOT how I wanted to die and haven’t gone past 100 since then, just curious about the speed junky’s opinion about the comparison of those two... thinking about picking up one or the other, any thoughts?
I find the bike surprisingly comfortable in New England roads. Also the inline 4 has character. It just takes the removal of the can and a slip-on makes it more entertaining. For a Ducati owner the in-line 4 feels a treat
tdeloriea tdeloriea I was disapointed but that's me. Big Ducati fan but it felt so bland bitni also own a crossplane 4 mt10 so that v4 sound makes me biased. 😊
Minion Ninja16 why have a wuickshifter inthis bike tho, clearly not a supernaked ,..seems kids off to put it on a retro bike and leave cruise off it too? Hmmm
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 I think quickshifters are going to become standard items on bikes in the next couple of years. It's personal choice whether its needed or not
JDoubleOP lol that's true! I went MT10 which isnt far off the king of supernakeds performance wise but nothing quite compares to the SDR, i only went MT10 becaue it was half the cost but had a quicker 0-60 lol. Couldn't have all the perks of the SDR or tuono Factory but half the cost and the only Japanese supernaked was a sclose as i could get to you bike . Or as I was willing to get : loved the SDR riding it and the tuono Factory too.
NYP Xs 1100 pulled like afuckin train in the mids So did the gs 1000 I had My mates gpz1100 loads of mid pull....this blokes too young..or hasn't been around..
Ok mate I live in florida and I herd you want to ride here in the states. I am taking a month long ride in August. The dragons tail Sturgis crow pow wow grand canyon and lots more I have a 1995 gold wing you can ride I will be on my 1290 gt. Think about it. Once in a life time ride.
It’s a nice looking and perfectly capable motorbike. However, I’m sorry if I offend any present owners but “bland” springs to mind imho. Time for Honda to put some excitement back into biking.
Its suspension doesnt do it justice. Nice engine albeit quite old, and sort of cute -ish looks. Im not really into that whole neo retro style etc. Nice video tho. Been watching a lot of your videos lately and decided id like to subscribe. Also please excuse my poor english skills, but its not my native language. Cheers
Don't know why.... But somehow CB1000R became my dream bike
Mine too
I was looking at the CB650R, because I'm a returning old rider and didn't want a "killer" bike. I was in love with the 650 and was really close to getting one. Then I was at a Yamaha dealer with my wife looking for a bike for her, when we saw a used 2020 CB1000R sitting in the corner. My wife walked over to it and said, how about this? At first I thought she meant for me, and I asked. And she said, no for you silly. I sat on it and was like double in love. Then the dealer started it and I was shaking with excitement. I found my baby. I was worried though, that it was a "killer" bike, but so many reviewer like you have said, "it's NOT about being sporty, it's about being comfortable and looking good". Well. That's exactly what I want. And of course, I want to enjoy the twisties a little too. At any rate. Going to your next video about the CB. I'm hoping you'll explain more about the suspension. Many reviewers say, "front forks are great", rear shock is replaceable. Off I go.....
Love that rear seat cowl it has. I'm loving the fact that manufacturers are making more and more future looking bikes. It's the cyberpunk future some have always wanted.
The absolute best thing about this video is the sound of the inline 4.
I was stunned when I first saw the CB1000R(like most of us were)...But it seems, from the rides and reviews I watch of it, that the bike's excitement doesn't go much past its looks...
Honda as a brand is fukin boring full stop. Much prefer a Suzuki gsxs 1000
@will M ... This seems to be the common theme...
If this was a V4, it would be in my garage right now.
Roy Batty good comment, I LOvE aprilias v4 tuono, I went MT10 and decated it and sounds so much like the aprilia v4 it's crazy: I know that heresy but gotta hear Rossi's crossplane 4 and you'll agree . Mt10'as the only Japanese supernaked and half the cost of a SDR or tuono Factory is a no brainer .
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 Half the cost of a SDR or Tuono? Not in Canada it's not. $3k more for a Tuono Factory vs an MT-10 here, and the Tuono RR costs almost exactly the same.
V4 motor is expensive to make, you say it would be in your garage, but you wouldnt buy it for 16 grand.. at least I hope you wouldn’t
Some days it looks good to me, other days its looks crap....! Good vid as always chops.
I quite like the looks but I’ll stick with my Speed Triple R thanks. Great review Chops 👍
I have had one for a couple of weeks. You wont get the shock to improve as the rebound dampening cannot be dialed in, the adjuster does nothing at all. Ordered a Nitron today which should sort the handling. Forks are good and respond well to adjustment. Junk the euro 4 stuff and you will get the midrange back. For me way better looking than the MT10 and better built.
Nick Lane which Nitron part number is it mate? Can’t find it on their website..
@@petea1663 Hi not sure the part number. I have ordered the NT R1 shock. I called up and it is £460 plus delivery. They were really helpful, the sales guy had the previous gen CB and knew a lot about them.
Nick Lane cheers mate I’ll give them a bell
Good to know Nick, think a better rear shock would transform it
Good first review chops I considered the Honda but decided on Mt 10 after seeing 44 teeth and your review + tmf .thanks Danny
Or why don't you ride both yourself and make up your own mind?
Never buy a bike based on reviews, you have to go ride both to see what you think is better.
danny curtis lololol SO agreed they both spent more time giggling and on 1 wheel than 2 lol the ONLY jam
Owners supernaked is a no brainer and got mine new for HALf the he cost of a SDR or tuono Factory no Factory and it's quicker to 60mph lol. In utah US a SDR was $17,500 new plus all the taxes and fees , my new MT10 was $9,200 no dealer fees and was bought or of state so no tax either lol was the greatest buy I've had and no one issue !!!
Have you decat yours???? Was the best decision I made!! Sounds like an Aprilia v4 or not far off rossis CP4 even with the Factory can left on. I sold mine to a famous UA-cam who vloggs on it now (the muscle biker) lives in my county and i only sold becaue of divorce but have decided to buy another bike and for the first time In 14 bikes owned almost all sport bikes, I'll buy something I've already owned ,..another MT10!!! No doubt!!!! 2 years owning and ZERO issues, 6,000 miles put on , and ONLY for more fun as time went on! Most fun bike I've ever owned!!! Good comment!!
Den Crane sure he did. I watched both videos too and it helped me have some faith in it when the professionals love it but I test rose EVERY naked and supernaked of 2016/17/18 and went MT10 no brainer ! V4 like sound and character, performance nearliy that of the king of supernakeds hit price of the base nakeds of Suzuki and Honda. Was so clear !
You tell it like it is. I appreciate that!
Good review.
Your really are the best at telling us how a bike feels, not just the stats which we can easily get off the internet. The quality of your videos is the best, I think you have really stepped up a notch and I hope your subs grows as it really should. Don’t care for this bike though, but it will last forever as it’s a Honda. 👍👍.
Thanks Duncan appreciated buddy
I luv and appreciate all motorcycles honestly
Really enjoyed the review, these actually look great in the flesh even with that number plate holder. Nice bike
I studied this bike for a year and just had to have one. Found a leftover 2018 in black - which is what I wanted anyway. Still too much silver on it for my taste, so I blacked it all out - a real head turner. No, it's not the baddest bike on the block, but it's certainly the best looking. Besides, in normal use, who needs more than 145 HP? I traded in a VFR1200F for this bike and I'm happy as hell with it. It'll keep up with the VFR up to 80 MPH, and believe me, 467 pounds is a lot more fun than 600 pounds. Smoothest engine in the world, and, yes, the muffler sounds just fine. Plenty of torque in any gear - even in 6th at 25 MPH it's got smooth strong acceleration. I've never ever been burned by a Honda, from my Super-90's in the '60's, my first true love CB750 in 1970, a CL450, V45 750, V65 Sabre, V65 Magna, VFR1200F, and now this beauty. I love this bike. Call it Naked, call it NeoSports Café, call it whatever you want - it's a great bike.
This is going to be my second bike. I'm a beginner rider. I'm currently riding a Honda Shadow. Learning how to ride. I want to get a sports bike next, and I absolutely love the naked bike look. Plus, I like how you can set different profiles, so, a relatively new rider like myself, I dont end up eating shit on my first ride with the bike.
I'll keep my cruiser for my longer rides, and the CB1000R for my short commutes, and occasional rides down the back roads for fun.
Im really liking the camera angles youre giving us Chops, and as always a good commentary, thanks for the blips
Thanks Kahi
Great vid as always Chops, thanks. Having seen your review and TMF's review, I'm not too sure where this bike is designed to fit in the market with all the competition, but it does look nice.
Great review, fella, thanks for posting... I have a demo on Sunday versus Ducati's 2019 Hypermotard... I've been on Ducati's twins for around 10 years now so I'm intrigued to see what it's like to get back on an inline 4
Nicely done LC 👍 I test rode this last year and despite being a Honda fan opted for the S1KR - my first Beemer! Put your teeth in next time 13.21 🤣😀
Marc Davis did u try the MT10? Curious. I tried the tuono Factory, SDR, s1kr, and everything else and went MT10 , got it for HALF the price of the SDR and $4800 less than the s1k and has that crossplane 4 v4 like sound BuT loved the s1k to be fair! Amazing bike!!!! Do u have the magnetic suspension etc? I LOvED that and the heated grips!!!!
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 - Didn't try a MT10 as I have a MT01. I have the electronic suspension and HP wheels, it's a very planted ride.
Thanks. You always make the best tests/review. :)
Good work Mr Chops and I have to say your sound quality seems to have gone up a level too. You can really get a nice sense of the sound and character of the bike coming through. 36 k subs not to be sniffed at but you deserve a lot more. One of the best out there. Cheers
Thanks SolivG, been using an external recorder for the engine sound.
My dads an old man who misses sport bike riding. He’s been a die hard Honda fan since his dirt bike racing days long before I was born. Really trying to convince him to pick one of these up. Outright performance isn’t important to him anymore as long as he’s comfortable and it’s fast enough to be fun. He’s my dirt bike riding buddy but I’d love to have him back on the street too.
What about nine T for your dad? Also expensive, but way more character and nice power on bottom
Sounds like it would be great for him TBH! Its a lovely bike and with a few choice mods which I will talk about in the next video would be perfect!
Thanks for the video
I picked my last week Honda CB1000R
Thumbs up for you too.
Gurpreet Bajwa hope u tried a mt10. Well if u want performance anyway;..oh and cruise co trip. Lol the performance of the MT10 compared to the 1000r and gax1000s is next level, it's why the MT10 gets tested on group tests with the supernakeds ,..super Duke 1290r, Aprilia tuono Factory , BMW s1000r etc and why the cb1000r and Suzuki gax1000s gets test and labeled as a base naked . If you're jsut lookin. To commute and be comfy, good call! Ifnu want performance,..hurry andtest a MT10 first:
We have the same jacket bro . Awesome review. I have a busa 11 a blacbird 2000 special edition and a cbr 07. This bike is on the bucket list when i turn 40 (im 32:p) Awesome take me back to my early 20s feelings gonna be.
Great channel man . Respect
Fun reveiw, chug test is a great feature. Enjoyed it, thanks
In 1 year and 10 months this will be my ride, updrage from CB500f can't wait!!!
Thought about it...then bought an ‘18 Tuono. Very glad I did...
Jonny Taylor ya after riding I went MT10 ,..performance wise it and the gsx1000s were SO far off the mark . A reason they aren't considered supernakeds . I LOVEeeeee the tuono!!!! Really wanted a Factory but we don't have Aprilia dealer within 1,200 miles of me so maintenance scared me ,.so I went with a MT10 , decated sound a lot like the Aprilia v4 shockingly wit the he crossplane 4, was also nearly half the cost of a factory in the US. But if we'd had a dealer near may have been a different story!
The 4th gear test is silly. It really depends on the engine settings. This engine is designed to burst out torque from +6.500 RPM = steep torque curve. With your 4th gear in 20 Mph, you were basically inside a 4-6RPM torque curve drop. Simply put, this engine is designed to be driven sporty from +6.500 RPM or smooth 4.000-6.000 RPM. One has to get used to each bike individually over a longer period of time to master it properly. The final performance is mostly based on the driver ;) since all of the modern bikes are truly powerful and beautiful machines!
It looks nice, but test after riding it, I still haven't found a reason to get rid of my GSX-S1000F. I test rode the Honda a couple times because I was thinking hard to buy it, but I'm going to put a quick shifter in, upgrade the suspension, and keep on riding the Suzuki. I've been spoiled by the front fairing and the wind reduction from smashing your body on the highway, and that K5 engine.
ye i got the f as well , after trying the mt10 and super duke gt but as a all rounder i still think the f is a better bike yes the other 2 are more madder just , havnt tried this honda yet
Hey. I have the naked gsxs and really glad to hear you have tested the Honda and are sticking to the Suzuki. I've been lusting after the Honda but glad you reckon it's not worth the switch. Every time I hop on my gsxs I grin all the way to work. It's all I need if I'm being honest. Btw, you said you were going to put a quick shifter on it. I've been told by a technician who worked on the snatch throttle for me that there is a quick shifter available in the ecu. You just need to enable it. Upshifts only though as far as I'm aware. Getting it activated soon on mine! Enjoy the ride!
@@DevRSVR I wouldn't doubt it. Mine is a 2016 so it had the snatchy throttle issue that had to be flashed and cleaned up a bit. I still have to get the module that goes on the shifter linkage to allow it to quick shift. I'll investigate a bit more to see how plug and play it is. I always encourage people to test ride for themselves. Sometimes you find something better, but sometimes you find out what you have is still great. The GSXS takes minor tweaks but it will keep up with most naked liter bikes today.
Bredaxe have u tried the MT10? I rode the SD1290r , tuono v4r Factory, gsx1000-s , this bike and a few others and I went with the '17 MT10 just the slightest bit under the tuono in performance but I paid nearly HALF a tip on Factory for my new MT10 ,..no brainer. But the gsx1000s and the cb1000 were SO lacking in performance compared to the mt10. YOU start to understand why everyone puts the MT10 into Supernaked classification while the other Japanese nakeds are jsut nakeds . Cool bikes but different level. Really hoped worth suzukis success of the gsxr and hondas 1000rr that they'd match yamahas naked R1 but failed miserably. Ugh. If u haven't tried it , Yamaha guy or not , I'd advise giving it a whirl: at least watch lambchop test and 44 teeth /Barron von grumbles. Here's soenthing you'll see In heir tests u won't see at all In Hondas or suzukis ,..wheelies on wheelies on wheelies! It's a supernaked, the others are not. Sadly. How cool would it have been to have Honda do a 1000rr version in a supernaked! The MT10 took the motorcycle life world by storm and won bike of the year all over ; why Honda and Suzuki dropped the ball SOooooo badly is beyond me. Leave the weak performance to the 750's and 900's ,..a naked liter bike based on the supersport should be a super naked boy a slow poor performing bike and the cb1000rand gsx1000s ARE slow by comparison: it's sad. Hando disapointed me as much as Suzuki did.
Guilio Barresi u took the f over an mt-10???? I guess comfort wise it's a good call hit seemed seriously disappointing performance wise to the mt10. The MT10 is the only Japanese supernaked at half the price of a SDR or tuono Factory ,..but very similar performance numbers and even better in some cases. The F was as disappointing to me as the gsx1000s was but comfort wiseni guess it wa better but a liter bike supernaked in not looking for comfort , I'll buy a mt07 if doing that. Lol . Just my 2 cents.
You make me happy, LCR forever.
SO YOU SAYING IS AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN THE TUONO ?
GREAT VIDEO DUDE .
nice intro song chops
I always love to hear your dulcet tones giving us the low down on a new ride :D #Lane
Was that an overtake at 6:00!?
Might have been the 1st I have ever seem on any review lately :-)
Man that exhaust sounds very good
I really like the look of these, and it' possibly one of the few bikes I'd consider swapping the Blade for (others being the Diavel, and the SuperDuke). But not sure I'd be disappointed with the excitement levels compared to Blade. Sounds like I'd be mising the Blade pretty quickly....but that Single-Sided swing arm tho!
Suspension on the cb1000r can easily be adjusted. Like most UJMs it's set for a 140lbs Asian rider. You like well over 100kg+..
The led light on the clock is a shift light that you can change to your preference.
Another top vid chopsy ,like to see again when set up reet 😁👍
We really need a follow up on this AFTER the suspension is setup. I don't like to hear that it's "bouncy" and not great in the twisties. I wonder if it's "light and nimble" as well as "neutral" in the corners, that's what I look for. I love the "easy to fall in" when you're in the twisties. The bike can either be adjusted to work right or it has to be modified. I'm a little tired of bikes that require reworking the suspension when they should have all the quality and adjustments needed to make it work. Having to replace shocks and forks on a new bike usually means you've bought the wrong bike...
I want this to go along side my bmw r nine t it would be a great combo of Japan and German retro bikes
It's a great looking bike and overall is a very build quality bike, as for the suspension deficiency for sport riding it would not be a problem for me there many suspension upgrade kits from different manufacturers to choose from, Ohlins and HyperPro are my prefered manufacturers, adding a more sportier handlebar from Rizoma, Puig or Renthal and a steering damper will solve all the lacking sport performance from factory set up. Overall is a great machine to have fun with a very unique style to it, just needs a very few affordable upgrades, I would buy one without any doubt.
i'd have one.... if not for the tuono, superduke, s1000r, and mt10.
I almost bought one , I loved it
Shoulda bought it.
Chops sir, please get your hands on Svartpillen 701..it's a beautiful bike..
Cheers mate..
I'm not a huge fan of Husqvarna as it is, I really am not a fan of the aesthetics of the Husqvarna Svartpilen 701, but that's just my thoughts :)
Yes I would like to try one, will try my best
Great review !
Thankyou sir!
Top review LCR
Smart looking machine. Judging by the amount of suspension travel on the forks, the ride would improve with a bit of stiffening. But then again, your normal Honda rider is closer to 10 stones than 20... 😉
haha yes your right :-)
Subbed LCR. Nice bike - balanced review.
Great review, not too sure about the bike? Fast through bends is a big part of biking for me 😁
Corners absolutely awesome!
Try one!
In behalf of the blipper fanatics.
Thank you!
(Good review Chops 👍👍👍)
Your welcome Chris :-)
Haven’t seen a Honda I like the look of for many years.
Interesting looking bike but I'm even more convinced I wouldn't change my MT10 for one. 70mph in first is sports bike territory, might be more fun going one tooth down on the front sprocket. Cheers and thanks for the review.
@will M Blimey the MT10 has a massive thirst!!
Like that Chug Test ; Nice Idea
I'm not a fan of single headlight naked bikes (Susuki is the worst) but something about the 1KR just does it for me idk why...
If Honda ever makes that type of bike with a stonkin' V4...
Nice review. It's looks a lot prettier in your vid than even in the Honda promo stuff. My only very minor dislike of the looks is that horrid grey mock dial glued to the TFT. As for it's character, it's obviously not slow but just seems a bit vanilla & Honda bland to me but I haven't ridden it to be fair. From your reviews the GSXS seems a little more hooligan (fun?) than the Honda?
Says a lot about the Zx6r when it out chuggs a 1000cc motor, that Kwaka must be a real pocket rocket!
Despite the looks. Ill take gsxs every day same 4 cyl but omg that gixxer sound 🖤
How is the on off throttle compared to your CBR900RR?
Great report, May't ------- in your opinion, which is better: the New Katana or this one? Cheers, from NZ.
Great review mate! May I ask what helmet you were wearing?
These Neo Sports Cafe bikes look spot on! I'm seriously considering getting a CB650R... By the way John, where did you make your custom keychain? That thing looks great, man. I'm looking for a company to make some keychains with my logo, but I'm struggling to find one that does what I want. Cheers.
Can say that I completely agree, it doesn't feel sporty. Turning is not something that you buy this bike for. The MT09 feels like a bicycle compared to this monster...
Did Look at this bike but brought the triumph speed triple RS, glad I did that bike loves the twisties, was worried I would get bored with the Honda, the speed felt far more premium when I sat on them back to back. 👍🏻🇬🇧
Speed is more premium but the Honda is better quality.
It’s all a matter of opinion, luckily we can all express one, not taking anything away from the Honda, but before I got the speed I had the Mt09, there’s a massive difference between them, just wanted the triumph more than the Honda, I got a good deal with quickshifter thrown in, and maybe being a Brit in oz felt great buying it. 😉
Nah, do admit I am a girl that likes her triple engines. Have a 2012 Daytona for road and track she runs good, will see how the new engine 2018 goes in the speed. In the 30+ years of riding always had Japanese bikes just wanted a change do have a fireblade to ride still, as long as I can ride I’m happy 😁
Speedtona did u try the MT10? Out accelerates the tripl res, SUoerfuke and Aprilia tuono 0-60 and half the cost, at least here in the Us. LOVE the triple ra tho FYI. 👌👌 I rode me all and couldn't pass up the MT10 st half the cost of the superduke and tuono Factory.
will M have u tried the MT10??? That crossplane 4 is next level!!! I've rode nothing but supersport liter bike all my life and loved the superduke and tuono Factory hit that mt10 crossplane 4 sounding like Rossis MotoGP bike when u decat it is next level! Quickest 0-60 of em all . I love the price of the mt09 but I only paid $9,200 for my new MT10 in the Us , was jsut a hair more Han the 09 but feels much quicker, cwn go wrong with either!!! California is having trouble selling all the mt10's they ordered so worth it to buy out of state and ship it, dealer here wanted $13k plus all the fees Cali dealer wanted $9200 , no dealer fees to set up fees and only $160 to ship it to utah. No brainer.
My kind of bike, I hate twins, lots of torque and lots of vibration (so called carácter...) I love the smoothness and linear power band of a good double balancer inline 4.
Yes lots to be said for Inline 4, super smooth and do sound nice with a pipe screaming :-)
Seriously, V4 (Aprilia's firing order, not the chainsaw VFR's), V-twin, parallel twin with 270 crank or cross-plane I-4 would give this bike so much more character. For some reason i don't think this I-4 sound fits the styling of this bike.
Sounds just fine to me. Quiet enough around the neighborhood, and a nice snarl at higher RPM's.
nice video man...
I don't believe in my opinion that having the number plate around the wheel is the right choice for this bike. I could understand it on something that isn't a performance machine, or not likely for people to want to wheelie on... who knows why this is the option they finished on
Beautiful Bike nice 👍🏽 review
needs cruise control (all bikes should) and some hidden panier mounts
Michael Large I know was shocked,..heated grips but no cruise????? That's a random choice. The MT10 changed the Japanese game by adding cruise and supernaked performance ,..thought Honda might add heated grips AFTEr cruise lol jsut sadly disapointed in the cb1000r , was so disapointed in suzukis attemp ,..Yamaha set the bar high with the first Japanese supernaked,. Really thought Suzuki and Honda would follow but seriously disapointed with their horrible performance liter nakeds. I don't get it. U can't buy gsx750 or Yamaha mt07 if u want an efficient comfortable naked,..the flagship naked for a company should be 100% based off its sueprsport brother ,..wh build a gsx1000s with crappy performance compared to the MT10 when u have the gex750s already? The cb is so disapointed. I rode one and had an MT10 and was doooo disapointed i turning around about about 4 miles to take it back I was SO disapointed and NOT confidence inspired!!! !!!!
Great video mr chops ☺ how does this compare to the speed triple, I own a speed triple and this doesn't quite look as lively?
I need to know what artist/song playing in the beginning of the video?!! 😁 nice video 😎
I like it, but it is still feels like a updated cb1000r(a) they changed the looks and added electrical gizmos and they even remade the frame a bit but it is not an entirely new cb1000r.
Agree 😃
Pillokun agreed I was really really really hoping Honda would follow yamaha lead, NOT suzukis,...Yamaha built a naked R1 (MT10) the first ever Japanese supernaked with supernaked performance,...Suzuki built a bike that's not much better than their base naked gsx750S ,..such a dispoinment! Was hoping g after at the success of yamahas MT10 at 1/2 the cost of the other superb nakeds was SO thinking Honda wound build a killer supernaked based onthe 1000rr,...was sooooo disapointed when I saw this. Looks kinda cool but retro like the xrs900,..clearly not a tracksble performer. Jsut a disappointment to me personally . Expected more from Honda. Ugh.
Working my way back through your road tests.
Did you ever find out what that light on the righthand side of the instrument panel was for?
I took the demo bike out today and I was really disappointed, the gearing is all wrong 6th gear felt like 4th, the quick shifter was ok going down the box but was really snatchy going up unless you short shifted through the gears, I felt the bars were too narrow, I was running in standard mode and the fuelling was just not right, the suspension was awful you felt every bump on the road, i really expected the bike to be much better than it was.
Can I ask what helmet you’re wearing... great review..
The new "Katana" remake of the GSX-S1000 is probably a direct competitor for this on styling and performance.
will be riding the Katana on the 9th May so will let you know how it compares
@@LambChopRides I own this and the katana , but the katana is more involving and fun to ride .
LCR, What's your one bike that makes you excited?
Lots of bikes get me excited, might be quicker to tell you which ones dont :-) Love supermoto mind
Please do follow-up videos on this bike I'm planning on purchasing one
Not sure how pricing stacks up on your side of the Atlantic, but I don't see why anyone would buy one of these when there are so many other bikes around the same MSRP (GSX-S1K: 13.3k, CB1KR: 15k, MT-10,: 16.2k, S1KR: 15.7k, Tuono RR: 16.2k)
It should be priced similarly to the Suzuki, IMO. Lack of fully adjustable rear shock? On a 15 grand bike?? (Canadian) Other than the single sided swing arm, I don't see the point.
Great review lambchop, I rode one fairly recently and was very disappointed comfort wise compared to my mt10. The ride was comfortable and it was a decently fun bike buuuuut performance wise was disappointed. Honestly lambchop as a company with motoGP history I was reallllllly hoping they they would try to compete more with the first ever Japanese supernaked MT10. I also missed the character of the crossplane 4 of the MT10 or the v4 of the aprilia and twin of superduke. The audio track of it is A bit disappointing compared to the engine character and sound of the others. It's cool bi really really hoped Honda would go more agress the than a retro modern. Ugh.
I do agree with you on all points.
It looks great, but after watching the gsxs1000 reviews the suzuki although not as teched up is the more faster and more planted of the two. Would you go with cb1000r or Gsxs1000, looking more towards the gsxs at the minute. Cheers chops
We are planning next month a direct comparison so stay tuned!
...sounding familiar..... ;0)
I'm surprised they geared it so long, I think naked and super sport bikes should have the exact same engines, and have a better balance of power vs torque and the same fast gearing too, who needs to go over 160mph, acceleration = more fun more of the time in my mind :)
Yes agreed, with a gearing change would really liven it up!
"I'd kill myself on one of those" ugh, the amount of times I've heard that. The bike will only go as fast as you make it.
@Malcolm Reynolds You would know.
@Malcolm ReynoldsYeah, of course you have...Funny how the armchair boys mouth about speed the most. Make sure you put on a really loud exhaust so everyone at starbucks can see how 'fast' you go in a straight line.
Haha was going to say the same thing.. the amount of times i heard this too!!😂 you only hear it from the wannabee riders who couldnt even ride a push bike🤣
Malcolm Reynolds
Have you ridden the CB1000R and GSXS1000?? just curious, I AM a big old pussy. I went 140 MPH on my 86VFR750 once and decided that was NOT how I wanted to die and haven’t gone past 100 since then, just curious about the speed junky’s opinion about the comparison of those two... thinking about picking up one or the other, any thoughts?
Den Crane our the pussy bitch
I find the bike surprisingly comfortable in New England roads. Also the inline 4 has character. It just takes the removal of the can and a slip-on makes it more entertaining. For a Ducati owner the in-line 4 feels a treat
tdeloriea tdeloriea I was disapointed but that's me. Big Ducati fan but it felt so bland bitni also own a crossplane 4 mt10 so that v4 sound makes me biased. 😊
No centre stand? Worth changing the exhaust to something with a bit more volume. Comparison to the Kawasaki Z1000?
Oh those are fantastic & I ride a Harley Davidson
Good review, even on footage quick shifter seems a bit jerky. Looks a pleasant bike though
Minion Ninja16 why have a wuickshifter inthis bike tho, clearly not a supernaked ,..seems kids off to put it on a retro bike and leave cruise off it too? Hmmm
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 I think quickshifters are going to become standard items on bikes in the next couple of years. It's personal choice whether its needed or not
In comparrison to the SD it's a nice moped
JDoubleOP lol that's true! I went MT10 which isnt far off the king of supernakeds performance wise but nothing quite compares to the SDR, i only went MT10 becaue it was half the cost but had a quicker 0-60 lol. Couldn't have all the perks of the SDR or tuono Factory but half the cost and the only Japanese supernaked was a sclose as i could get to you bike . Or as I was willing to get : loved the SDR riding it and the tuono Factory too.
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 MT10 is an amazing bike, but i don't like the 'transformer style' looks.
Stiffin up The shocks and drop a -1 + 1 or 2 sprocket combo and she would really light up i bet
Yes agreed!!
Straight fours are flat in the mid range?? *looks at his 1975 z1075 and 750 Turbo and thinks* "nope, absolutely not!!"
NYP
Xs 1100 pulled like afuckin train in the mids
So did the gs 1000 I had
My mates gpz1100 loads of mid pull....this blokes too young..or hasn't been around..
Absolutely! Well said man 👍
Do you recommend this bike? Found a good deal used 11K miles
Ok mate I live in florida and I herd you want to ride here in the states. I am taking a month long ride in August. The dragons tail Sturgis crow pow wow grand canyon and lots more I have a 1995 gold wing you can ride I will be on my 1290 gt. Think about it. Once in a life time ride.
It’s a nice looking and perfectly capable motorbike. However, I’m sorry if I offend any present owners but “bland” springs to mind imho. Time for Honda to put some excitement back into biking.
Its suspension doesnt do it justice. Nice engine albeit quite old, and sort of cute -ish looks. Im not really into that whole neo retro style etc.
Nice video tho. Been watching a lot of your videos lately and decided id like to subscribe.
Also please excuse my poor english skills, but its not my native language.
Cheers
Sorry John fab Video BTW
Good review. Is it me or has the RH switchgear come round on the bar a bit??
Thanks Chrispy, No dont think it is has..