A guy named Brian lives with his grandmother, never graduated HS, has no job, uses his mother’s old computer, thinks he’s found his true love online. He learns that person is a gay man in S. Africa, but wants revenge on the woman whose photos were used online. I need mental health support just listening to this story!
Sadly, people like Brian aren't uncommon. They're willing to listen to the un-evolved side of their brain by stalking the innocent party when the real culprit is too hard to locate & identify just to make themselves feel better. Brian should have sought mental health support when he felt deceived & disgruntled when his online lover was found to be bogus, not us!
Let’s recognize the family member going after him and taking action, often we hear stories where family members are well aware but detach themselves from the situation. The brother saved lives.
@lod3msn That is so true . He saved his brother from ruining his life over a scam from a stranger . He saved a woman and her boyfriend that were strangers to him. His whole family should be grateful .
I have a brother like that. He doesn’t waste energy on anything positive in life. He’ll work up a sweat trying to cause problems and scare people through.
@@andrews527 There are two different types of stress. Eustress feels challenging but manageable and leads to growth, while distress is difficult and has a negative impact. However, the effect will largely depend on individual factors.
It’s important to distinguish the difference between intent and execution. Killing two people with a knife is not an easy task, especially when one is a man who, in all likelihood, was much larger, stronger, and smarter than Brian. I have serious questions about whether or not he had the intellect and/or the ability to think strategically enough to truly planned this out to a point where it had a chance to succeed. Also, he may have just backed out, ran out of money, gotten caught before he could attack, or had any other number of things happen. Additionally, for all we know the boyfriend had a gun, and bringing a knife to a gunfight usually doesn’t work out too well. He could have easily broken into the house late one night, gone to their bedroom, and opened the door only to be immediately shot in the head. Without more information on his mental state, it’s impossible to know what kind of “plan” he was capable of creating and if he could execute it. Luckily, his brother intervened and we’ll never need to know, but just because someone wants to do something doesn’t mean they are capable of actually doing it. It doesn’t make it any less terrifying, but it should be kept in mind that it was by no means a done deal. Remember that he didn’t even have the money to buy a knife.
Eh, if this dude has been living in a fantasy world on a computer, I am sure his plans would've been foiled any number of ways. She probably would've kicked his lame arse.
I agree with GigiRulesTheRoast and disagree with the rest of you. He got himself all the way to San Diego from Michigan and had the element of surprise. He may not have killed both of them, but he could’ve easily killed one of them and/or injured the other. Remember, they had no idea this was happening so he could surprised them in many number of ways. He was a master stalker…. But of course this is all hypothetical speculation.
@@myusernamerocks3 I thought Obama saved us all... After Obama saved everyone, Trump came and saved everyone. Politics is just a show with new saviors who supposedly save you. Politicians are not your friends, they just pretend to be your friend.
Yup and this is why I don’t use social media anymore. It is not safe at all because there are terrible people everywhere. Even staying private does not help since people can still hack in.
That’s what I was thinking…how the hell does a high school dropout, who lives with his mother, has never had a job or ever left his hometown, know how to hack accounts and find information on people?!
@@johns3106 if you use a computer a lot it becomes pretty intuitive. Don't get me wrong, you still need to learn how to do something specific like writing code but that learning process is relatively easy. Let's not forget as well that 'hacking' can mean lots of things. It doesn't necessarily mean coding and whatnot, it could just be that he researched her and guessed her password after many tries. I've guessed passwords and things for work/personal life (not in devious or illegal ways, just needed access to something and the person that had the password wasn't available but I had permission to access the information). I think we should also note that this kind of obsessive problem solving doesn't necessarily indicate intelligence or mental health. Bit like trying to open a random combination lock, most people are going to use default number combinations. All 1's, all 0's, consecutive numbers etc. etc. Lots of people use a pets name, town name, nickname, birthday, fav band/movie, partners name or common phrases they say or even relevant description of what they're logging etc. for a password. I've joined plenty of private gaming servers doing this haha.
It's amazing some of the paranoid creeps on the internet. He never bothered to ask Tiffany what her role was, just assumed she was guilty. Judge, jury and executioner. Scary. Ultimately she was safe and that's the most important thing.
He already knew the answer and ignored it to preserve his fantasy world. Asking her would just be more evidence for him to ignore, or more likely, perceive as deception. Confirmation bias is an incredibly powerful thing.
@BriansWealthJourney - I completely agree. When someone is so out of touch with reality, they become inherently dangerous because their actions can’t be predicted using any type of logical thinking. And someone capable of violence who is completely unpredictable should never be on the streets.
@@TheProfessorExplains . . . further rejection! Mentally and physically healthy adults with jobs, good work-life balance, and self-confidence do not have to search for intimacy because it naturally comes to them in face-to-face interactions and conversations. On the Internet, it is too easy to be played by predators.
Toxic positivity raising false expectations. Feelz are more important than truth, because truth can be "offensive" and we don't want to offend anyone. We ourselves don't want to be ostracised for being "offensive" to some "othered" group or another. Seneca, the Roman stoic, warned about the dangers of optimism and how it engenders anger. Yet so much modern psychotherapy centres around puffing up "positive" feelings" instead of treating negative feelings as sensing the world and potentially containing useful intelligence for us.
I worked with a man that was doing online dating. He would show me pictures of these hot girls half his age and was always sending his money when they asked for it from him. I told him to tell them to send him weird request photos on the fly like holding a certain number of fingers up, something silly like holding a shoe above their head, hat sideways anything out of the ordinary but not vulgar. This made him kinda mad at me for suggesting these women were not real. He was always in a good mood madly in love at work. He told me one wanted him to move in with her and he needed $4000 for travel and help with apartment expenses and would pick him up. Said his goodbyes to me and he would not be to work next week. Seen him the next week at work and i was not surprised. Approached him asking what happened? Told me he changed his mind with a busted lip and bruise on the side of his face. Yup he was robbed and he was brought back to earth and never seen him on his phone smiling again. Felt bad for him but i warned him.
I just can’t get over how many men are so dumb. There are so many delusional men out there, it is astounding. Always drooling over women on the Internet and thinking these women want them , and never dating real women in real life.
Honestly I think that simping, aka giving women money in the hopes that they will fall in love with you ought to be treated as a mental disorder. It is deeply disordered thinking.
WOW! This is craziness squared! The lengths that this corkscrew went through to harm someone that had no idea who he was..is beyond insanity!! Wow! What a crazy craxy world we live in...
Hi Dr Grande.... love your shirt! Thank God this story had a happy ending. So glad that psycho didn't kill that gorgeous girl and bf. Kudos to Brian's brother! Thanks
@fkxfkx Models are not, on the whole, unintelligent. This is a generalization that is not born out by data. Many models choose the career because it's flexible and they can put themselves through school doing it. Think about it. Men who are intelligent and successful often choose attractive partners, together they make attractive and intelligent children. It's been studied. Models, athletes are of higher, not lower, IQ. Look it up.
I was in a support group. I'm married. This guy would go on and on about his true love and all the issues and problems they were having. I thought it was a girl he was dating local that had been serious. I was shocked when I found out he had never met this person in real life. He was suicidal over a woman he'd never even hugged. I'm like...holy cow... I've been married 20+ years... I'm not offing myself if we breakup.
He was smart enough to hack a facebook account but couldn't realize he was being catfished? So ridiculous. THIS is why I don't post ANY face shots of myself or my family. Let this be a lesson to those to post their entire lives online.
He was smart enough to figure out she had nothing to do with it. The problem was that he was so consumed by revenge and anger that he essentially created a world where she had done something wrong because the actual perpetrator couldn’t be found. This way, he could get his revenge against someone. It’s clear he is naive, isolated, sheltered, and likely has mental health issues. He was not driven by stupidity, he was driven by anger and needed an outlet to reclaim the power and dignity he felt he had lost. Since the actual perpetrator was not an option, he focused on someone not involved because that anger needed to be directed at someone (literally anyone would do). This is the danger in anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theories, and a failure to accept reality. When reality is too difficult to accept, some people create a new reality in which to live. Unfortunately, this allows them to take any part of true reality that upsets them and “rewrite” it into their own new reality in whatever way they find easier to accept. So since the perpetrator was impossible to locate, he created a world where this woman and her boyfriend had done this horrible thing to him. A fantasy world where these people had wronged him and he was the hero on an epic quest to get justice. He knew that they had done nothing wrong, but that would have destroyed his fantasy and therefore he ignored it. This happens all the time in ways that range from kooky to terrifying. For example, flat earthers don’t really hurt anyone. They have built a community of like minded individuals which is something that many of these people have never been part of. If believing the earth is flat can bring otherwise isolated people together in a healthy way, it’s not a bad thing. However, all groups or individuals consumed with a false reality are not always this peaceful. In this case, the false reality he created to justify his actions could have caused two innocent people their lives.
I totally agree and I had a friend like that. She posts everything about herself and her family online. She claims that she set it on private but people still hacked in. Sadly, there are people like her who like to show off every aspect of their life for others to see even though most people don’t care unless you were famous, which she is not. But sadly, it will come back and haunt you.
I'm so relieved to hear a case where justice was served and no one got hurt. This is one of many reasons I don't post "thirst trap" photos online, the world has some pretty delusional psychopaths out there and this case certainly isn't the first time a woman has been stalked by a stranger because of photos he saw online.
There is a UA-cam channed called Catfished and it is shocking how many people fall for these romance scammers and how many need to be convinced the hot babe (or guy) in the pics isn't involved in the scam. This case goes to the extreme, but if you watch that channel you will be shocked at who falls for this stuff and how far will go to keep the fantasy alive.
Hey, Elon Musk struck a convo with my neighbor after she joined a FB fan site. She was sure that he is down-to-earth AND off-beat enough to want to chew the fat with a 78 y. o. widow. When I tried to, kindly, I thought, move her off that idea, she didn't speak to me for a week. Thankfully, it seemed to pass, so we are ok, now.
Loneliness in a world full of strangers must make some people feel sad, empty, and very desperate to be recognized and loved. Mental health problems are increasing in OECD nations (i.e., the west).
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469I totally agree and loneliness really gets to you. Most people really need a loving partner even though they may not admit it. Sadly, it is hard to find a good person in this world whether it be in person or online. Even true and good friends are hard to come by so romantic partners are even harder.
Thats not how it works. If anyone really wanted to, I could take your email, and see if it is leaked(most likely is) then get your password from a broker. If your email is linked to any other emails and you reuse password, now I have access to everything you have.
I have had to deal with my youngest son on this issue. A girl he thought he was communicating with couldn't talk on the pbone or do live two way face time . However, she needed money for college. I told my son I'm 50 years old and I can use a cellphone. A 20 year old girl in America CAN'T?? That was because it was a guy scammer in the Philippines named Marco. Luckily, he could put a stop payment on it when we saw where and who the money was going to, You really don't know who your in contact with on the internet. BEWARE.
All of this work and effort to find an innocent woman and man when he could’ve spent the same time and effort into finding a real job in the real world.
There is no such thing as the real world. What you mean is the world of capitalism. If they can't fire you, you're not living in the the "real world." 'Murica.
I had one guy come up to me randomly years ago and thought he was dating me because someone was using my photos and impersonating me on facebook... ppl are nutty- it turned out to be my ex's little brothers girlfriend who was impersonating me i found out years later.. still unnerves me to this day
I have zero sympathy for this guy. He sounds like a hateful and foolish person. I know some pretty unintelligent people and they are sweet as can be. There is just no excuse for the kind of hate and selfishness that is in this guy's heart. He deserved a lot more than 5 years. It is the only way anyone can be sure the community is safe. If he wants to live that way then let him live that way. There are plenty of hateful conspiratorial people in prison.
@@tangaz5819 I think desire is the word you are looking for. If you are able bodied and not intellectually disabled, you can do many things as long as you desire it.
I had to live in El Cajon for a few months way back...and while there my friend wrote me a Post Card saying, "YES, there is a hell." It's not exactly La Jolla..
True! I don’t think most people get much out of it, except a whole lot of unwanted attention from the wrong people, and hate. There has never been a study that has proven any link between female beauty and upward mobility.
Besides believing this woman was interested in him, WHY would he think the woman whose pictures those actually were would be in any way to blame for a man in South Africa using her photos & catfishing him?
I'm pretty sure that was just the outer layer of it. I think what really happened was that he got angry that a woman like her is usually never interested in a guy like him and in his mind decided to punish her and her BF for what he perceived as being the unfairness of life. He was probably frustrated with his life and blamed others because he is seen as a loser. The scam thing was just a superficial reason he gave to others, in reality this wasn't so much about the scams as it was about his frustrations with life.
There was a woman who was duped by a scammer posing as Johnny Depp. She demanded that the real Johnny Depp apologize to her and fix the situation. Some peeps be wack, yo.
@@HeathenDanceLiterally makes no sense. But whatever, you’re entitled to your own opinion. We’re all just big fans of Dr. Grande here and I’m sure everyone would love for him to upload several times a day or week! 🤣
Also, itll never cease to amaze me how some people have zero self awareness. How he thought someone like her would be into him. Stay in your lane. And two years to realize something wasn't right.
I'm not overly attractive. You still won't find a single photo of me on the internet other than maybe a few group photos other people uploaded. I just don't understand this "share everything about my life" mentality
@@AMM3. I'm sure you are beautiful, btw. These women are terrible people. We can not identify with this kind of personality. This woman was innocent. It's a sad story. But others are not, and if those suffer... I could care less
Burglars find people posting live updates of their vacations and rob their house knowing its empty. If you just posted a pic on a beach 1,000 miles away, they can take their time.
@MakerInMotion - Very good point as to why the idea of sharing your whole life online is a terrible idea. Not only does it make you vulnerable to robbery but to many other crimes due to the ability it provides anyone to learn everything about you, your family, your life, your routine, and your location. Combine all that personal information with forming parasocial relationships with all kinds of people of varying mental health, and all it takes is one mentally unstable individual with an infatuation to cause a tragedy. I mean, numerous well known online figures have been murdered with the most well known likely being Christina Grimmie who was killed by an obsessed fan. Having the world know everything about you used to be something that came with being high profile, having an important job, or being a celebrity. However, those people are extremely well paid and could afford to pay for security and other protective measures. In today’s society, people can become “famous” overnight without the financial ability to ensure their own safety. While many people share their lives online in the hopes of money and fame, very few actually get those rewards. However, every single one of them is now opening themselves up to all of the negatives that used to be the downside of celebrity without the financial means to keep themselves safe or even the awareness that their safety is in jeopardy.
I was completely unaware of this story. Thank you for sharing. Man this is terrifying. This guy should get way more than 5 years because the public is NOT safe with him in the community. Incel to the max
I never can figure out where people get the money to carry out these crazy schemes. I wonder if that woman was ever able to get her identity taken off of social media
maybe it's that but also her pictures look like a real person, not taken by a photographer or in a photoshoot, so she is as pretty as a model but her pictures look real
Displacement is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person redirects a negative emotion from its original source to a less threatening recipient. A classic example of the defense is displaced aggression. If a person is angry but cannot direct their anger toward the source without consequences, they might "take out" their anger on a person or thing that poses less of a risk. Defense Mechanisms are unconscious strategies people use to cope with unacceptable feelings. Unlike the conscious coping strategies that we use to manage daily stress, defense mechanisms operate on an entirely unconscious level.
@@Helga-fe5xl Except for spoiled rich kids, everyone in my Baby Boomer generation worked in the service industry, while going to primary/secondary school (e.g., babysitters, bottle and can collectors, lawn mowers, A&W car hops, etc.). Some joined the US military to go through basic and advanced training and to see the world or were drafted to enter combat in the Vietnam War after graduating with a diploma or GED from high school. Some went to college on the GI bill and got their college/university degrees to advance their careers. Working from the bottom to the top of business organizations starting at entry level salaries is still not uncommon in most places.
Man this story is crazy. So he’s smart enough to be able to hack an account of a random person, but not smart enough to realize they’re innocent and have no idea who you are
If I was a very attractive, well-endowed woman, I would never post photos of myself online. If I did, for any reason I would use every available tool to obscure my identity and certainly would not use social media. IRL I would cover myself with loose fitting clothing, hats, sunglasses, fake nose and all manner of disguise's. Only then would I feel safe. Fortunately I do not have this problem since I blend in with the masses and am ignored by almost everyone.😟
Attention is a heck of a drug. Also you would have more people wanting to help you overall. Just need to make sure you have your friends around you, and make sure your friends respect your boundaries.
@@lololnope34567 easy to say in hindsight. if you can leverage your looks to get you to that position sure, but way too many women end up taking a bad "modeling shoot" contract that becomes the reason they end their lives. there is no amount of "good security" that can match the security of being out of sight and out of mind.
This is exactly what made me stop posting on social media & private every single one of my accounts. The screenshotting used to get so bad that I would have to tag my own accounts camouflaged within my clothing 🤦🏼♀️
That brother is a very clever dude. 2 brothers.. one is insane, emotionally stunted, a narc. The other is very wise, brave, emotionally intelligent and assertive.
We live in a time of toxic positivity and compulsive optimism raising expectations above what are realistic. In truth optimism is necessarily a delusion and its frustration leads to anger. This was all known to Seneca, the Roman Stoic. Instead of educating the young to think well we puff them up with rainbows and unicorns. But everyone knows that rainbow recede as you approach them, like a mirage, and that unicorns aren't real. We'd rather that young people feel good with comfortable lies than that take realism for what it is, warts and all. Toxic positivity is the great poison of our times replacing clear vision for frosted glass as our eyes.
The biggest problem is that, thanks to the Internet and Social Media, human beings live, more than ever, through the concept of external validation and acceptance, taken to the extreme. I think if people lived mostly for themselves, according to their own personalities, and expectations, frustrations wouldn't kick in as much.
If you don't understand why women choose the bear in the "Bear vs. Random Man" scenario, this is why. He stalked this woman across state lines and planned to murder her because SOMEONE ELSE had hurt him, bears don't do that.
How vulnerable children are on the net, I know parents want to show there kids of but who knows who is watching them and why? I would hope people would stop exposure to children as they may regret those images later on in life.
This is one of those things where common sense protects you, not the law. These folks know better, it’s simple to avoid, don’t give a bunch of money and or time to someone you have never met in real life. And even if you do know them, still don’t give them time and money unless they are your spouse, family member, or friend and they are worth it. Never lend or give someone time and money you can’t afford to lose. Rules to live by.
If you're just using a photo available online or some spoof account, that's one thing, lots of people do things like that, but if it's being used with malicious or deceptive intent to fool someone into a relationship, or work some nefarious means to take advantage of someone in some kind of extortion method, then yeah, it's fraudulent identity misuse to commit crimes. Really all depends on how far it goes. Seriously though, who sends money to someone online they've never met before? That's as dumb as it gets.
Love the shirt, doc 🥰 Hope this finds you and your better half doing well 😊 Are you going to do something spooky on Halloween for us? I'm just asking for a friend 😉☺️
A guy named Brian lives with his grandmother, never graduated HS, has no job, uses his mother’s old computer, thinks he’s found his true love online.
He learns that person is a gay man in S. Africa, but wants revenge on the woman whose photos were used online.
I need mental health support just listening to this story!
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Sadly, people like Brian aren't uncommon. They're willing to listen to the un-evolved side of their brain by stalking the innocent party when the real culprit is too hard to locate & identify just to make themselves feel better. Brian should have sought mental health support when he felt deceived & disgruntled when his online lover was found to be bogus, not us!
Mentally ill people do not think like us "normal" people. I know it is hard to understand this.
EXACTLY
Let’s recognize the family member going after him and taking action, often we hear stories where family members are well aware but detach themselves from the situation.
The brother saved lives.
Yes! 👍👍
maybe, brian seemed pretty dumb, not sure if he could pull of the h1t
@@rickjames5998 brian seemed to be competent enough to have pulled it off,but getting away with it would have been another story
He also saved Brian from a life in prison, although Brian definitely needs to be locked away for life...
Everyone is capable of ending another's life, not everyone is smart enough to get away with it.
Brian's brother is a hero! He prevented a tragedy!
Thank you
@lod3msn That is so true . He saved his brother from ruining his life over a scam from a stranger . He saved a woman and her boyfriend that were strangers to him. His whole family should be grateful .
The sad part is that the only time he showed any initiative, talent or work ethic was pursuing revenge but going in the wrong direction.
I have a brother like that. He doesn’t waste energy on anything positive in life. He’ll work up a sweat trying to cause problems and scare people through.
@@pwallace5359 Ugh! Keep your distance Sister 🙏
So you want us all to be that stressed every day?
Your brother had this middle managment mentality aka slave's supervisor.
The water of the covenant is thicker etc.
@@andrews527 There are two different types of stress. Eustress feels challenging but manageable and leads to growth, while distress is difficult and has a negative impact. However, the effect will largely depend on individual factors.
Oh my gosh, if not for his brother, Tiffany and her boyfriend would have been murdered. This whole thing is so unbelievably frightening.
It’s important to distinguish the difference between intent and execution. Killing two people with a knife is not an easy task, especially when one is a man who, in all likelihood, was much larger, stronger, and smarter than Brian.
I have serious questions about whether or not he had the intellect and/or the ability to think strategically enough to truly planned this out to a point where it had a chance to succeed. Also, he may have just backed out, ran out of money, gotten caught before he could attack, or had any other number of things happen. Additionally, for all we know the boyfriend had a gun, and bringing a knife to a gunfight usually doesn’t work out too well. He could have easily broken into the house late one night, gone to their bedroom, and opened the door only to be immediately shot in the head.
Without more information on his mental state, it’s impossible to know what kind of “plan” he was capable of creating and if he could execute it. Luckily, his brother intervened and we’ll never need to know, but just because someone wants to do something doesn’t mean they are capable of actually doing it. It doesn’t make it any less terrifying, but it should be kept in mind that it was by no means a done deal. Remember that he didn’t even have the money to buy a knife.
Eh, if this dude has been living in a fantasy world on a computer, I am sure his plans would've been foiled any number of ways. She probably would've kicked his lame arse.
I doubt it. He couldn't even afford the knife. His plan had more holes than a marvel movie.
@@TheProfessorExplains I agree with this. He had issues for sure but he was not in the real world enough to be at all capable at murdering someone.
I agree with GigiRulesTheRoast and disagree with the rest of you. He got himself all the way to San Diego from Michigan and had the element of surprise. He may not have killed both of them, but he could’ve easily killed one of them and/or injured the other. Remember, they had no idea this was happening so he could surprised them in many number of ways. He was a master stalker…. But of course this is all hypothetical speculation.
Brian's identity should be widely available to protect the public. So disturbing.
Right?
"Never mind the victims, think of the poor criminals!!!" - The Democrat Party
@@myusernamerocks3 I thought Obama saved us all... After Obama saved everyone, Trump came and saved everyone. Politics is just a show with new saviors who supposedly save you. Politicians are not your friends, they just pretend to be your friend.
@@myusernamerocks3lol we can say the same thing about republicans. Just look at who you all are voting for. A criminal.
@@myusernamerocks3Really??😂😂😂😂
This is the scariest type of person. Willing to murder a perfect stranger over a perceived slight that had nothing to do with them.
i suspect we're full with people like this... they just don't act out (yet)
@@Senee628 As aggrieved domestic servants, the Papin sisters acted out against their employers in a horrific manner.
That's why posting pictures on social media is not safe at all. Stay private.
I agree with this more and more everyday. And people need to stop exploiting their own children for likes and 💵.
Yup and this is why I don’t use social media anymore. It is not safe at all because there are terrible people everywhere. Even staying private does not help since people can still hack in.
@@Isabella66Gracenabsolutly
Amen.
I think sending someone pictures of your genitals was the real issue in this case
Can’t figure out he’s being catfished; proceeds to hack into her email?
Seems like he was very good at convincing himself of things that were blatantly untrue.
That’s what I was thinking…how the hell does a high school dropout, who lives with his mother, has never had a job or ever left his hometown, know how to hack accounts and find information on people?!
@@johns3106 if you use a computer a lot it becomes pretty intuitive.
Don't get me wrong, you still need to learn how to do something specific like writing code but that learning process is relatively easy.
Let's not forget as well that 'hacking' can mean lots of things. It doesn't necessarily mean coding and whatnot, it could just be that he researched her and guessed her password after many tries.
I've guessed passwords and things for work/personal life (not in devious or illegal ways, just needed access to something and the person that had the password wasn't available but I had permission to access the information).
I think we should also note that this kind of obsessive problem solving doesn't necessarily indicate intelligence or mental health.
Bit like trying to open a random combination lock, most people are going to use default number combinations. All 1's, all 0's, consecutive numbers etc. etc.
Lots of people use a pets name, town name, nickname, birthday, fav band/movie, partners name or common phrases they say or even relevant description of what they're logging etc. for a password.
I've joined plenty of private gaming servers doing this haha.
This was my first IMMEDIATE thought
@@johns3106Yeah, right?
Glad I'm too ugly for someone to use my pictures. 😂
😂😂😂😂
95% of folks can say the same
Some cat fishers use very normal looking people as part of their scheme
Ahhh ha ha ha Hilarious comment! 😄
So are we. 😄
Trenchcoat was on his list of items to get for the act lol, what a dork.
Trenchcoats went out of style in the like, the 30’s or 40’s.
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@@EMDrecs1 They where big during the skinhead era in the 80's 90's, he's still a dork though
Classic weenie
I still wear a trench coat when it rains.
It's amazing some of the paranoid creeps on the internet. He never bothered to ask Tiffany what her role was, just assumed she was guilty. Judge, jury and executioner. Scary. Ultimately she was safe and that's the most important thing.
He already knew the answer and ignored it to preserve his fantasy world. Asking her would just be more evidence for him to ignore, or more likely, perceive as deception. Confirmation bias is an incredibly powerful thing.
@@TheProfessorExplains I suspected this and agree with your assessment, which is one more reason he is so dangerous.
@BriansWealthJourney - I completely agree. When someone is so out of touch with reality, they become inherently dangerous because their actions can’t be predicted using any type of logical thinking. And someone capable of violence who is completely unpredictable should never be on the streets.
@@TheProfessorExplains . . . further rejection! Mentally and physically healthy adults with jobs, good work-life balance, and self-confidence do not have to search for intimacy because it naturally comes to them in face-to-face interactions and conversations. On the Internet, it is too easy to be played by predators.
Toxic positivity raising false expectations. Feelz are more important than truth, because truth can be "offensive" and we don't want to offend anyone. We ourselves don't want to be ostracised for being "offensive" to some "othered" group or another. Seneca, the Roman stoic, warned about the dangers of optimism and how it engenders anger. Yet so much modern psychotherapy centres around puffing up "positive" feelings" instead of treating negative feelings as sensing the world and potentially containing useful intelligence for us.
Poor Tiffany. I hope she found happiness. The absolute abuse of her images is disgusting.
My favorite shirt! Do a video about your closet, Dr. G!
Don't be weird now.
Silly 😅
I worked with a man that was doing online dating. He would show me pictures of these hot girls half his age and was always sending his money when they asked for it from him. I told him to tell them to send him weird request photos on the fly like holding a certain number of fingers up, something silly like holding a shoe above their head, hat sideways anything out of the ordinary but not vulgar. This made him kinda mad at me for suggesting these women were not real. He was always in a good mood madly in love at work. He told me one wanted him to move in with her and he needed $4000 for travel and help with apartment expenses and would pick him up. Said his goodbyes to me and he would not be to work next week. Seen him the next week at work and i was not surprised. Approached him asking what happened? Told me he changed his mind with a busted lip and bruise on the side of his face. Yup he was robbed and he was brought back to earth and never seen him on his phone smiling again. Felt bad for him but i warned him.
LOL.
@@HeathenDance That's for telling us that experience with a naive workmate. I hope it will wise up some folks, so they stay out of harms way.
I just can’t get over how many men are so dumb. There are so many delusional men out there, it is astounding. Always drooling over women on the Internet and thinking these women want them , and never dating real women in real life.
Darwin at work. Similar to putting cheese in a mouse trap and trying to warn the mouse 🤷♂️
Honestly I think that simping, aka giving women money in the hopes that they will fall in love with you ought to be treated as a mental disorder. It is deeply disordered thinking.
WOW! This is craziness squared! The lengths that this corkscrew went through to harm someone that had no idea who he was..is beyond insanity!! Wow! What a crazy craxy world we live in...
Hi Dr Grande.... love your shirt! Thank God this story had a happy ending. So glad that psycho didn't kill that gorgeous girl and bf. Kudos to Brian's brother! Thanks
If Dr. Grande starts a shirt clothing line I'm in.
You can find his style of floral shirts at any vintage pop-up
**glaces at my closet**
High school drop out, unemployed, never left home town and he thought a model wanted to date him. Sounds like a winner!
It could happen. Models are sorta stupid
@@fkxfkx Attractive doesn’t equal intelligent, but people tend to be attracted to good looks, money and personality; none of which Brian had.
@fkxfkx Models are not, on the whole, unintelligent. This is a generalization that is not born out by data. Many models choose the career because it's flexible and they can put themselves through school doing it.
Think about it. Men who are intelligent and successful often choose attractive partners, together they make attractive and intelligent children. It's been studied. Models, athletes are of higher, not lower, IQ.
Look it up.
I think he was infatuated and naive. What a horrible lesson
@@fkxfkx - I hope that this is sarcasm. 😂😂😂
I was in a support group. I'm married. This guy would go on and on about his true love and all the issues and problems they were having. I thought it was a girl he was dating local that had been serious. I was shocked when I found out he had never met this person in real life. He was suicidal over a woman he'd never even hugged. I'm like...holy cow... I've been married 20+ years... I'm not offing myself if we breakup.
Understand your point, but fantasy relationships are quite different to real ones
That is quite fascinating. But when it comes to emotions, everything is mostly a subjective illusion.
@@lololnope34567 Marriage itself is a fantasy relationship, since the human species is not monogamous. Quite the opposite, actually.
It depends as you can truly connect with people even if you have not met in person yet.
@@HeathenDance Marriage isn't about sex though, so you miss its purpose if you think it's a fantasy.
Moral of the story: don’t post thirst traps online because crazy ppl exist
He was smart enough to hack a facebook account but couldn't realize he was being catfished? So ridiculous. THIS is why I don't post ANY face shots of myself or my family. Let this be a lesson to those to post their entire lives online.
He wasn't smart enough to figure out that this woman had NOTHING to do with the catfisher. Epically stupid, IMHO.
He was smart enough to figure out she had nothing to do with it. The problem was that he was so consumed by revenge and anger that he essentially created a world where she had done something wrong because the actual perpetrator couldn’t be found. This way, he could get his revenge against someone.
It’s clear he is naive, isolated, sheltered, and likely has mental health issues. He was not driven by stupidity, he was driven by anger and needed an outlet to reclaim the power and dignity he felt he had lost. Since the actual perpetrator was not an option, he focused on someone not involved because that anger needed to be directed at someone (literally anyone would do).
This is the danger in anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theories, and a failure to accept reality. When reality is too difficult to accept, some people create a new reality in which to live. Unfortunately, this allows them to take any part of true reality that upsets them and “rewrite” it into their own new reality in whatever way they find easier to accept. So since the perpetrator was impossible to locate, he created a world where this woman and her boyfriend had done this horrible thing to him. A fantasy world where these people had wronged him and he was the hero on an epic quest to get justice. He knew that they had done nothing wrong, but that would have destroyed his fantasy and therefore he ignored it.
This happens all the time in ways that range from kooky to terrifying. For example, flat earthers don’t really hurt anyone. They have built a community of like minded individuals which is something that many of these people have never been part of. If believing the earth is flat can bring otherwise isolated people together in a healthy way, it’s not a bad thing. However, all groups or individuals consumed with a false reality are not always this peaceful. In this case, the false reality he created to justify his actions could have caused two innocent people their lives.
Well, being catfished is only possibly if you're willfully delusional. It's not even traditional stupidity, it's a special kind of delulu.
@@TheProfessorExplains Agreed.
I totally agree and I had a friend like that. She posts everything about herself and her family online. She claims that she set it on private but people still hacked in. Sadly, there are people like her who like to show off every aspect of their life for others to see even though most people don’t care unless you were famous, which she is not. But sadly, it will come back and haunt you.
Your wardrobe has exploded!
Those pictures he was catfished with are very old as well. She is taking them with a digital camera. Have to be pre 2010.
well he was arrested in 2011 so yes
That is one spicy shirt, Dr. G.
I'm so relieved to hear a case where justice was served and no one got hurt. This is one of many reasons I don't post "thirst trap" photos online, the world has some pretty delusional psychopaths out there and this case certainly isn't the first time a woman has been stalked by a stranger because of photos he saw online.
There is a UA-cam channed called Catfished and it is shocking how many people fall for these romance scammers and how many need to be convinced the hot babe (or guy) in the pics isn't involved in the scam. This case goes to the extreme, but if you watch that channel you will be shocked at who falls for this stuff and how far will go to keep the fantasy alive.
Hey, Elon Musk struck a convo with my neighbor after she joined a FB fan site. She was sure that he is down-to-earth AND off-beat enough to want to chew the fat with a 78 y. o. widow. When I tried to, kindly, I thought, move her off that idea, she didn't speak to me for a week. Thankfully, it seemed to pass, so we are ok, now.
Lots of delusions that Johnny Depp or Jennifer Aniston are secretly in love with them and just need money to help them get a divorce.
Loneliness in a world full of strangers must make some people feel sad, empty, and very desperate to be recognized and loved. Mental health problems are increasing in OECD nations (i.e., the west).
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469I totally agree and loneliness really gets to you. Most people really need a loving partner even though they may not admit it. Sadly, it is hard to find a good person in this world whether it be in person or online. Even true and good friends are hard to come by so romantic partners are even harder.
Catfish Only has all the Dr Phil episodes about catfishing. Some victims are severly delusional.
This is so frightening... in soooo many ways.
Thank you, for your analysis on this case, Dr. Grande!
How is he smart enough to hack her email!?
Terminally online skills. 😂
@@lv7603 Lol.
He didn't.
Thats not how it works. If anyone really wanted to, I could take your email, and see if it is leaked(most likely is) then get your password from a broker. If your email is linked to any other emails and you reuse password, now I have access to everything you have.
@@assasin19991999. True. You can pay for access to anything.
Great shirt!
Haven't watched the video yet but "liked" for Dr Grande's cool shirt.
Dr. Todd Grande is Legendary!
I have had to deal with my youngest son on this issue. A girl he thought he was communicating with couldn't talk on the pbone or do live two way face time . However, she needed money for college. I told my son I'm 50 years old and I can use a cellphone. A 20 year old girl in America CAN'T?? That was because it was a guy scammer in the Philippines named Marco. Luckily, he could put a stop payment on it when we saw where and who the money was going to, You really don't know who your in contact with on the internet. BEWARE.
And now they can make fake videos and voice messages using AI, so it is even more dangerous for delusional people.
Since Brian said he was going to Texas, how did Brett figure out he was in San Diego?
I really want to know that
@@Cec9e13me too
Thanks. I thought I missed part of the story.
Same question I had. Maybe he used his momma or brother's credit card to book travel arrangements? Either way... what a story!!
The first part surprised me. The reason for filing bankruptsy is most often, to not lose your home.
Maybe he was the one racking up the credit card bills in his mom's name so she kicked his lazy butt out
Nice shirt!!
What a great shirt! ❤
All of this work and effort to find an innocent woman and man when he could’ve spent the same time and effort into finding a real job in the real world.
There is no such thing as the real world. What you mean is the world of capitalism. If they can't fire you, you're not living in the the "real world." 'Murica.
Believe Dr. Grande stated he may have been detached from reality.
This is like a man trying to sue owner of a stolen car after getting involved in a hit and run incident. liability falls on the thief
I had one guy come up to me randomly years ago and thought he was dating me because someone was using my photos and impersonating me on facebook... ppl are nutty- it turned out to be my ex's little brothers girlfriend who was impersonating me i found out years later.. still unnerves me to this day
...ummm....can I've her number ?....
@@marioncrane09 😆😆😆
What a weird experience, both for you and the guy who got catfished.
Dr Grande I like your kitchen curtain shirt! It suits you!
Nevermind the video. I like the shirt too. In every video, the Dr. should wear an outrageous shirt!
@@coolasice2187he's the king of outrageous awesome shirts 👕
What sort of curtains do you have in your kitchen? That is not a kitchen curtain shirt😂❤😂
@@sylviekins Not in my kitchen, but some people do have kitchen curtains like that.
My mum used to have a bedspread with a similar pattern! I love it! 😂😂
I have zero sympathy for this guy. He sounds like a hateful and foolish person. I know some pretty unintelligent people and they are sweet as can be. There is just no excuse for the kind of hate and selfishness that is in this guy's heart. He deserved a lot more than 5 years. It is the only way anyone can be sure the community is safe.
If he wants to live that way then let him live that way. There are plenty of hateful conspiratorial people in prison.
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer was delusional and lived with his grandmother, too.
This was the catfish's fault. What's wrong with you?
I boggles my mind that in today's world a forty year old has never left his town.
Yo I met people in their 70s who never had
I had relatives who died in the house they born in - 75 years later.
Not everyone had the chance and opportunities to travel.
With his background and education, thats understandable. Some people just dont have the luck or sheer ability to venture out.
@@tangaz5819 I think desire is the word you are looking for. If you are able bodied and not intellectually disabled, you can do many things as long as you desire it.
I had to live in El Cajon for a few months way back...and while there my friend wrote me a Post Card saying, "YES, there is a hell." It's not exactly La Jolla..
Love the shirt doc
I think the perks of being a beautiful woman may be overstated.
💯 💯 💯! Most people don’t get anything out of it but a whole lot of trouble, and hate.
True! I don’t think most people get much out of it, except a whole lot of unwanted attention from the wrong people, and hate. There has never been a study that has proven any link between female beauty and upward mobility.
It's only while you're young too. It doesn't matter how beautiful you are, one day you get older, and ignored
Your shirts match the theme of your video. Prove me wrong 🌹
Dr. Grande, could you do a video on the Papin sisters?
This is why idiots should recieve more understanding and support. This could have exceeded tragedy of most henious horror.
@@marshmoreland8365 But many idiots see themselves as geniuses and don't want understanding and support.
If I were Brian's brother I would be more than a little nervous.
I love that shirt, Todd. Very Tyler Durden.
Besides believing this woman was interested in him, WHY would he think the woman whose pictures those actually were would be in any way to blame for a man in South Africa using her photos & catfishing him?
I'm pretty sure that was just the outer layer of it. I think what really happened was that he got angry that a woman like her is usually never interested in a guy like him and in his mind decided to punish her and her BF for what he perceived as being the unfairness of life. He was probably frustrated with his life and blamed others because he is seen as a loser.
The scam thing was just a superficial reason he gave to others, in reality this wasn't so much about the scams as it was about his frustrations with life.
There was a woman who was duped by a scammer posing as Johnny Depp. She demanded that the real Johnny Depp apologize to her and fix the situation.
Some peeps be wack, yo.
Wow! That's a gorgeous rose shirt!
I love Dr Grande’s videos so much! I wish he would upload 5 times a day🤣
Me too.
You need therapy.
@@HeathenDanceLiterally makes no sense. But whatever, you’re entitled to your own opinion. We’re all just big fans of Dr. Grande here and I’m sure everyone would love for him to upload several times a day or week! 🤣
That’s a cool shirt, Dr Grande 👍
Exhibit “A” why I never opened a Facebook account. I cherish my anonymity. People who post on Facebook are foolish.
I love your channel. And I love your shirt.
Also, itll never cease to amaze me how some people have zero self awareness. How he thought someone like her would be into him. Stay in your lane. And two years to realize something wasn't right.
Great analysis Dr. I was anticipating your usual joke/quip only to find the only humor on this was your shirt.😂
I’m here for some consistently interesting dialogue
I miss the time when the comments always generated interesting dialogue
@@yellowcapspringstein6078 Same here. It used to be the one thing I could always count on in this difficult world.
Always interesting
Thank you ❤️
Dr Grande, I like your shirt.
Great review.
Beautiful shirt doc
Thank goodness his brother called the police.
What the heck. A case of truth is stranger than fiction....
I'm not overly attractive. You still won't find a single photo of me on the internet other than maybe a few group photos other people uploaded. I just don't understand this "share everything about my life" mentality
@@AMM3. I'm sure you are beautiful, btw. These women are terrible people. We can not identify with this kind of personality. This woman was innocent. It's a sad story. But others are not, and if those suffer... I could care less
Burglars find people posting live updates of their vacations and rob their house knowing its empty. If you just posted a pic on a beach 1,000 miles away, they can take their time.
@@RJSPARKS4lol wut? You know a lot of people who use womens photos on the net are MEN pretending to be women.
That's because you're not attractive. If you looked like Tiffany, there would be oodles of pictures of you on the Internet.
@MakerInMotion - Very good point as to why the idea of sharing your whole life online is a terrible idea. Not only does it make you vulnerable to robbery but to many other crimes due to the ability it provides anyone to learn everything about you, your family, your life, your routine, and your location.
Combine all that personal information with forming parasocial relationships with all kinds of people of varying mental health, and all it takes is one mentally unstable individual with an infatuation to cause a tragedy. I mean, numerous well known online figures have been murdered with the most well known likely being Christina Grimmie who was killed by an obsessed fan.
Having the world know everything about you used to be something that came with being high profile, having an important job, or being a celebrity. However, those people are extremely well paid and could afford to pay for security and other protective measures. In today’s society, people can become “famous” overnight without the financial ability to ensure their own safety.
While many people share their lives online in the hopes of money and fame, very few actually get those rewards. However, every single one of them is now opening themselves up to all of the negatives that used to be the downside of celebrity without the financial means to keep themselves safe or even the awareness that their safety is in jeopardy.
I was completely unaware of this story. Thank you for sharing. Man this is terrifying. This guy should get way more than 5 years because the public is NOT safe with him in the community. Incel to the max
Govt. cant afford to keep people locked up, they waste the money on other stupid crap.
I never can figure out where people get the money to carry out these crazy schemes. I wonder if that woman was ever able to get her identity taken off of social media
Brian is dangerous and unstable. This guy should be off the street.
😂😂 the way the Dr said "Amazingly" ... The Dr was genuinely shocked at the chances of Brian being found.
You can’t fix stupid 😂
True! But you can arrest it and put it in prison for a few years! 😅
Hey Dr Grande, would you cover the recent case from the UK - Virginia McCullough?
“There was something about her people couldn’t resist” I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it was because of her appearance
True but there are plenty of beautiful women out there. She just got unlucky.
maybe it's that but also her pictures look like a real person, not taken by a photographer or in a photoshoot, so she is as pretty as a model but her pictures look real
Love the shirt Doc!
Displacement is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person redirects a negative emotion from its original source to a less threatening recipient. A classic example of the defense is displaced aggression. If a person is angry but cannot direct their anger toward the source without consequences, they might "take out" their anger on a person or thing that poses less of a risk. Defense Mechanisms are unconscious strategies people use to cope with unacceptable feelings. Unlike the conscious coping strategies that we use to manage daily stress, defense mechanisms operate on an entirely unconscious level.
Yep try working in the service industry
@@Helga-fe5xl Except for spoiled rich kids, everyone in my Baby Boomer generation worked in the service industry, while going to primary/secondary school (e.g., babysitters, bottle and can collectors, lawn mowers, A&W car hops, etc.). Some joined the US military to go through basic and advanced training and to see the world or were drafted to enter combat in the Vietnam War after graduating with a diploma or GED from high school. Some went to college on the GI bill and got their college/university degrees to advance their careers. Working from the bottom to the top of business organizations starting at entry level salaries is still not uncommon in most places.
Man this story is crazy. So he’s smart enough to be able to hack an account of a random person, but not smart enough to realize they’re innocent and have no idea who you are
If I was a very attractive, well-endowed woman, I would never post photos of myself online. If I did, for any reason I would use every available tool to obscure my identity and certainly would not use social media. IRL I would cover myself with loose fitting clothing, hats, sunglasses, fake nose and all manner of disguise's. Only then would I feel safe. Fortunately I do not have this problem since I blend in with the masses and am ignored by almost everyone.😟
Each to their own. You could make good money off being the type of person you described though and then afford good security.
Attention is a heck of a drug. Also you would have more people wanting to help you overall. Just need to make sure you have your friends around you, and make sure your friends respect your boundaries.
I would never post my pictures on social media and I have tons of pictures. Yes I am very attractive woman. My pictures is only for my husband.
@@lololnope34567 easy to say in hindsight. if you can leverage your looks to get you to that position sure, but way too many women end up taking a bad "modeling shoot" contract that becomes the reason they end their lives. there is no amount of "good security" that can match the security of being out of sight and out of mind.
I LOVE Dr. Grande’s shirt!
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Thanks for the upload Dr. Grande 💕
One of the best formats, presenter & storyteller on UA-cam 👌🫶☺️
This is exactly what made me stop posting on social media & private every single one of my accounts. The screenshotting used to get so bad that I would have to tag my own accounts camouflaged within my clothing 🤦🏼♀️
This was definitely a sexually motivated crime. He wanted to assault her primarily. The killing part was likely n addition to his his sexual goals.
I was thinking the same.
Excellent video 📹
MY BROTHER'S KEEPER
Tragic for all parties…
That brother is a very clever dude.
2 brothers..
one is insane, emotionally stunted, a narc.
The other is very wise, brave, emotionally intelligent and assertive.
Destination Walmart. Of course.
"These are two options that typically do not appear side-by-side." DRY 😅P.S. Lovin' the shirt. Really zhuzhed up the presentation! 🌹
We live in a time of toxic positivity and compulsive optimism raising expectations above what are realistic. In truth optimism is necessarily a delusion and its frustration leads to anger. This was all known to Seneca, the Roman Stoic. Instead of educating the young to think well we puff them up with rainbows and unicorns. But everyone knows that rainbow recede as you approach them, like a mirage, and that unicorns aren't real. We'd rather that young people feel good with comfortable lies than that take realism for what it is, warts and all. Toxic positivity is the great poison of our times replacing clear vision for frosted glass as our eyes.
The biggest problem is that, thanks to the Internet and Social Media, human beings live, more than ever, through the concept of external validation and acceptance, taken to the extreme. I think if people lived mostly for themselves, according to their own personalities, and expectations, frustrations wouldn't kick in as much.
Love the shirt Dr G.
If you don't understand why women choose the bear in the "Bear vs. Random Man" scenario, this is why.
He stalked this woman across state lines and planned to murder her because SOMEONE ELSE had hurt him, bears don't do that.
And the other person that hurt him was a man.
@@WilliamBrowning How do you know that bears don't do that?
Don't go near a Bear regardless?
Yeah, it's confounding that he chose revenge upon another victim.
Actually bears do that. If a human hurts a bear that bear will often seek out other humans to attack.
Love the shirt 😊
How vulnerable children are on the net, I know parents want to show there kids of but who knows who is watching them and why? I would hope people would stop exposure to children as they may regret those images later on in life.
I'm going to need more photos to come to my own "conclusion"
How does some random person hack your Email ?
Hackers can do anything.
Data leaks.
Nice shirt :) Funny how i learn about new interesting cases :D Thanks!
Really surprised that catfishing isn't a crime.
its impersonation but is there a legal difference between this and identity theft? isnt this a variant of that?
Depending on the severity of the case, it can be considered identity theft.
This is one of those things where common sense protects you, not the law. These folks know better, it’s simple to avoid, don’t give a bunch of money and or time to someone you have never met in real life. And even if you do know them, still don’t give them time and money unless they are your spouse, family member, or friend and they are worth it. Never lend or give someone time and money you can’t afford to lose. Rules to live by.
If you're just using a photo available online or some spoof account, that's one thing, lots of people do things like that, but if it's being used with malicious or deceptive intent to fool someone into a relationship, or work some nefarious means to take advantage of someone in some kind of extortion method, then yeah, it's fraudulent identity misuse to commit crimes. Really all depends on how far it goes. Seriously though, who sends money to someone online they've never met before? That's as dumb as it gets.
We don't have laws with teeth for online adjacent crimes because all our politicians are 80 years old and clueless.
Love the shirt, doc 🥰
Hope this finds you and your better half doing well 😊
Are you going to do something spooky on Halloween for us? I'm just asking for a friend 😉☺️
Thank God he was stopped.
Unfortunately I speculate that the same mechanism of misdirected anger is at work in much prejudice and hatred 😔