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  • @skuggensdam13
    @skuggensdam13 Місяць тому +528

    I'm a woman in her mid-50s who got into black metal just a few years ago. I got a job as an album reviewer. At the time they needed someone to review the black metal albums they kept getting sent. I was a metalhead, but knew nothing about black metal. Honestly, I was intimidated by the scene because it was so angry and so dark. Nonetheless, I took it as a challenge so I started reviewing a genre I knew little about. I ended up loving black metal. There's a primordial quality to it that just works. 🤘

    • @Cynips
      @Cynips Місяць тому +29

      That's so cool! And I'm saying that as a 60 y/o guy who didn't pick up on black metal until some 15 years ago. Congrats on doing that as a job.

    • @Hanniballinda
      @Hanniballinda Місяць тому +4

      It's so cool that you kept your mind and heart open for new music ❤ I'm 33 now and have always been a metalhead too. As a teenager I had quite a dark phase and just scratched the surface of black metal, but turned to metalcore then. Today I am discovering the universe of black metal and the deeper I dive, the more I start to love it. To me it's something you need to give a try without any bias, to be able to discover its quality and depht.

    • @eringursky3503
      @eringursky3503 Місяць тому +5

      I got into it later. Im 49 now so probably in my mid 20s. Well I really got into it. I was all about Doom and thrash. I did have the Bathory album when I was 17. Right now im hardcore into Viking/Celtic metal. I love it.

    • @KenGold666
      @KenGold666 Місяць тому

      YES

    • @fuzz668
      @fuzz668 Місяць тому +4

      Almost 40 here, and just got into it pretty deeply a couple years ago thanks to my good friend Hoot. I've always been into death metal and in death metal bands. It's a nice change of pace.

  • @Daniel92941
    @Daniel92941 Місяць тому +228

    Best thing is, he flexes with listening to noise Black Metal, because "it shocks people".

    • @Stardust799
      @Stardust799 Місяць тому +11

      I don't flex much. But sometimes i wonder do i have mental problems considering how i much i like those nasty Underground one man projects. I haunts other people.

    • @XPGrindDeathking
      @XPGrindDeathking Місяць тому +47

      Can't expect much of someone who thinks "Trap" metal is the future of metal.

    • @Daniel92941
      @Daniel92941 Місяць тому +38

      @@XPGrindDeathking or someone, who complains about racism in metal and at the same time thinks, that asian bands are just fetish objects.

    • @maxmeggeneder8935
      @maxmeggeneder8935 Місяць тому +3

      @@Stardust799 you like them cause they´re great. but i know the feeling.

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 Місяць тому +16

      I've been throught some of his videos and the crazy thing is, that's how he judges ALL music fans: as if they don't like or hate music because of how it sounds, but because they want to flex to the outside world, or want to feel like part of some group.
      He did an entire video arguing that people hate nu metal "because they hate its fans and the media said bad things about nu metal".
      No dude, I don't like nu metal because I think it sounds bad. That's it.

  • @RufusRogers-kl5ni
    @RufusRogers-kl5ni Місяць тому +369

    There’s so much passion in black metal, this guy would never understand

    • @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37
      @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37 Місяць тому +7

      Right 👌

    • @heimdall9095
      @heimdall9095 Місяць тому +5

      👌

    • @XPGrindDeathking
      @XPGrindDeathking Місяць тому +26

      His takes are some of the worst ever, pretty much every metal related video sucks.

    • @metamorphicblood
      @metamorphicblood Місяць тому +11

      That’s how it goes, with somebody who insists that nu-metal was “never considered cool”. Guess it was my imagination when it seemed to completely flood top 40 rock radio for years.

    • @WolfAngelChaos
      @WolfAngelChaos Місяць тому +1

      yeah

  • @metamorphicblood
    @metamorphicblood Місяць тому +227

    Man, if I didn’t have Finn McKenty telling me the correct ways to be a nonconformist I don’t know what I’d do.

    • @waveslayer007
      @waveslayer007 Місяць тому +10

      I like watching finns stuff from time to time, dont always agree with him, but he is usually entertaining

    • @delboytrotter2042
      @delboytrotter2042 Місяць тому +1

      Hey..at least you'd be a conforming nonconformist.

    • @metamorphicblood
      @metamorphicblood Місяць тому +15

      @@waveslayer007 I can deal with watching UA-camrs I don’t always agree with. I just find him unbearably smug.

    • @mabeylane7163
      @mabeylane7163 Місяць тому +4

      he's just saying his opinion. i'm not the biggest fan of him but he's never once said everyone should agree with him.

    • @spankyjeffro5320
      @spankyjeffro5320 Місяць тому +3

      He's doing the same thing he claims to hate about older black metal, but he doesn't even stand by it.
      "This is by far my favourite...", "I don't know that much about them.". Then why call them your favourite?

  • @iamnoone9041
    @iamnoone9041 Місяць тому +150

    The answer to the question Why do people like black metal is super easy. People like black metal because it's f'n awesome!!!

    • @gixxusmetalman7435
      @gixxusmetalman7435 Місяць тому +11

      And it's more interesting to listen than the shit on the radio 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟

    • @WolfAngelChaos
      @WolfAngelChaos Місяць тому +2

      yep!

    • @blackheavyblans
      @blackheavyblans Місяць тому

      ​@@gixxusmetalman7435this

    • @Sumoniggro
      @Sumoniggro Місяць тому +3

      ​@@gixxusmetalman7435 there are plenty of genres that don't play on the radio though so that isn't a reason to specifically listen to black metal, second wave black metal has the same rebellious spirit towards death metal that punk had towards contemporary rock and role. Unfortunately Black metal ultimately fell victim to the reality of music and genre categorisation which is musical conventions and tropes so black metal bands aren't exactly unique which is one of the complaints they had towards death metal.

    • @gixxusmetalman7435
      @gixxusmetalman7435 Місяць тому +2

      @@Sumoniggro they don't play any metal on the radio in Nz let alone death metal,closest they get is Iron Maiden but only one song 🤟🤟🤟

  • @windirzombie
    @windirzombie Місяць тому +68

    Being a lady in the USA and not having any metalhead friends, I didn’t know black metal existed until I got my first iPod years ago… It’s like I’ve always heard this music in my head.. I’m so thankful black metal found me and I haven’t stopped listening since… I embrace the darkness… the music feels like my insides…

    • @RoguSpanish
      @RoguSpanish Місяць тому +10

      That's exactly how I felt the first time I heard doom metal, it was like, where have you been all my life? I was introduced to black metal by a friend in high school though and loved it ever since, it's the only music you can truly relate to when you're totally dead inside.

    • @VVRAITH6
      @VVRAITH6 Місяць тому +1

      🤘

  • @MossyAntlers6
    @MossyAntlers6 Місяць тому +136

    I’m a long time Punk Rock and Black Metal fan, why can’t this guy let both amazing genres exist in peace? 🖤 🤘🏻

    • @RobHellfire666
      @RobHellfire666 Місяць тому +10

      Right!!??
      I mean, so fk'n what if you listen to punk (as I do too) you can't listen to B.M??? GTFO!! 🙄😎

    • @opiumdennis7249
      @opiumdennis7249 Місяць тому +20

      completely agree. this pretentious poindexter is sooooo full of himself. He's got videos talking about all the "Nuances" of NYHC.. ummmmmmmm.... yeah...

    • @MossyAntlers6
      @MossyAntlers6 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly! Like all this fighting and drama is so unnecessary.

    • @notyaboi2781
      @notyaboi2781 Місяць тому +16

      If your source for black metal is lords of chaos, you dont know the history of black metal. Dude completely over looked the canadian, brazilian and japanese scene which were way ahead of everyone else. Norway is only known because of bad man zumzum doing things.

    • @RobHellfire666
      @RobHellfire666 Місяць тому +1

      @@notyaboi2781 💯

  • @infernosatx9731
    @infernosatx9731 Місяць тому +108

    You're facial expression
    "What the fuck is this"
    😂 😂 😂
    Had me dying lol

    • @714GriM
      @714GriM Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂 same I laughed so hard my dogs woke up startled 😂

    • @Suburbannite
      @Suburbannite 25 днів тому

      he knew exactly what he was watching lmao. watch the entire video he had hardly any objections to what Finn was saying

  • @DELOMELANICON85
    @DELOMELANICON85 Місяць тому +83

    My dad is at his last. I'm keeping him company.Watching Boriss videos really cheers me up.Thank you friend.Greetings from Greece

    • @SebGarSeb
      @SebGarSeb Місяць тому +5

      All the best 💐

    • @RealGengarTV
      @RealGengarTV Місяць тому +5

      Keeping your father company while he is on his deathbed, you sir/mam have your priorities right. Family first.

    • @DELOMELANICON85
      @DELOMELANICON85 Місяць тому +3

      @RealGengarTV I am male,40 years old. My dad is 70. I would like it,when it's time to depart from this mortal life to be able to say to my inner voice/conscience that I did what I could for my family.Thank you and be well

    • @RealGengarTV
      @RealGengarTV Місяць тому

      @@DELOMELANICON85 i am in the same position (male age 40+, parents age 70+) but my parents still have their health. When they go I hope to be there as they were there when I was born and I hope my kids will be there when I die. Such is the circle of life and death.

  • @elpeladorobles5013
    @elpeladorobles5013 Місяць тому +223

    That dude used to write for MetalCucks thats all that needs to be said.

    • @wesleypipes5673
      @wesleypipes5673 Місяць тому +22

      Makes sense

    • @aranadelabismo
      @aranadelabismo Місяць тому

      What is metal cucks?

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ Місяць тому +21

      He was the troll Sargeant D, which single handedly killed that site. Honestly thats still the worst thing he ever did.

    • @elijahloveell8809
      @elijahloveell8809 Місяць тому +13

      Honestly explains a lot lol

    • @themadmattster9647
      @themadmattster9647 Місяць тому +1

      Whoa never knew that

  • @Metallideth10
    @Metallideth10 Місяць тому +75

    true norwegian summer… rain.

    • @tzindombre8640
      @tzindombre8640 Місяць тому +4

      i wish we had rain during summer here in the south. you are lucky

  • @Dravasky
    @Dravasky Місяць тому +12

    I’m almost 43 and have loved black metal since I was a teen and still get the stomach drops from a good song, finally saw Mayhem live some months back, soooo gooood. 🤘🏻

  • @crimsoncola
    @crimsoncola Місяць тому +72

    You have to “get” black metal. In your black, melancholic soul. It’s not for everyone. But it speaks to me on an alternate plane it’s hard to describe but you guys know what I’m talkin about. 🤘🏻

    • @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37
      @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37 Місяць тому +2

      🤘🥰👌

    • @Yoshi92
      @Yoshi92 Місяць тому +5

      The most emotional and definitely most "true music" to my ears.
      Like oldskool grandpas listen to Mozart and Bach and enjoy it to the fullest, I listen to BM in the same way.

  • @JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac
    @JustAnotherHeavyMetalManiac Місяць тому +163

    Ah yes, good old Finn ‘You’re racist if you don’t like trap metal’ McKenty.

    • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
      @thisisnotmyrealname6990 Місяць тому +48

      Finn ‘Metalheads don’t like people that wear hats because it reminds them of black people’ McKenty

    • @PxNxWxGxW
      @PxNxWxGxW Місяць тому +22

      ​@@thisisnotmyrealname6990 Finn is just so hard to watch.

    • @EvilDeadthe2nd
      @EvilDeadthe2nd Місяць тому +11

      Did he really say this?

    • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
      @thisisnotmyrealname6990 Місяць тому +9

      @@EvilDeadthe2nd yeah

    • @mattthekiller9129
      @mattthekiller9129 Місяць тому +4

      Wait a second, there is actually a genre called trap metal?

  • @tomasjonsson7141
    @tomasjonsson7141 Місяць тому +30

    I love both black and death metal 🐐🐐🐐

  • @Vessenkestrel
    @Vessenkestrel Місяць тому +5

    I think my only issue with the video is that it assumes that black metal is listened to mainly to capitalize on its image, and not because people like how it sounds. It’s interesting to me how to some people describe the music as sounding like nails on a chalkboard and others describe it as beautiful. Don’t get me wrong I love the aesthetics of the genre, and the occult themes but I’d never force myself to listen to music unless I genuinely liked it.

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir Місяць тому

      I think I remember when I disliked the black metal sound. To be honest I tend to like "better produced" music but suddenly the sound just made sense to me.

  • @fuzz668
    @fuzz668 Місяць тому +49

    Lmao @17:03 "wtf is this" left my mouth the same time as you 🤣🤣🤣

  • @LostHermit-xs8rg
    @LostHermit-xs8rg Місяць тому +19

    One of the big things that people that are not informed of the scene don’t think about the American and Brazilian, and Canadian scenes of black metal that were before and around the same time, bands like sarcafago, blasphemy, and profanatica

  • @Mattis_FH
    @Mattis_FH Місяць тому +21

    I'm norwegian and grew up with Dimmu Borgir and Satyricon as my main bands in my youth. Been on and off black metal through the 2000's, but now it's my main shit again, by far, with doom and sludge.
    I would say that black metal has never been better and more creative and fresh as it is these days. I got *counting*... 42 BM bands that have put out music between 2018 and now, that I have in my rotation and they range from more old school to modern, atmospheric black metal.
    It's the purest form of emotion and musically it has this genuine and creative vibe that few other genres have these days.
    Most importantly; black metal anno 2024 is as far from boring as it could be.
    Edit: Fuck, you're the guy behind Tryglav?! Fuckin' awesome. Eller. Innafor som vi sier her. 🤘❤️👍
    Heh; yeah, you're in my rotation. Love The Ritual.

  • @ion_eyes
    @ion_eyes Місяць тому +7

    I'm not really a metal guy, but UA-cam recommended this video to me and I'm glad I watched it. Thanks for your reactions and analysis.

  • @thisisnotmyrealname6990
    @thisisnotmyrealname6990 Місяць тому +20

    Havohej is a side project of the drummer and vocalist of profanatica for those that don’t know.

  • @sithmasterkiller
    @sithmasterkiller Місяць тому +15

    I grew up with Old school death metal and Black Metal in the 90’s ! For me both genres where very important and I still enjoy them today!! Great content Boris !

    • @zbox6420
      @zbox6420 29 днів тому

      If you liked death metal in the 90s your not a real black metaller

    • @nuhh7403
      @nuhh7403 24 дні тому

      ​@@zbox6420shut up, gatekeeping cringe boy

    • @supernoah0593
      @supernoah0593 9 днів тому

      ​@@zbox6420 please provide more cringe, cringemeister

  • @fogfullofsilhouettes5842
    @fogfullofsilhouettes5842 Місяць тому +16

    For me, black metal is more of a feeling than a sound, if that makes sense?
    As a genre it's raw yet beautiful, It's Dark yet enlightening, It's unintelligible yet understanable.
    Theres a gravitation towards it because the genre is extremely different in comparison to so many other genres of music, even within the metal scene. Black Metal contnuously flips its head as to what you make of it.
    The sub genres of black metal combine with other genres and themes, such as folk music, medieval themes, symphonic and melodic, Atmospheric and Ambient.
    Theres a strange beauty to it.

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому

      "Black Metal is more of a feeling than a sound." LOOOOOOOOL. The amount of times I read or heard something like is. As a REAL Satanist, I came to realize that the Black Metal scene is FILLED with sensitive, insecure emos lol.

    • @boxcutter8887
      @boxcutter8887 Місяць тому

      ​@@HeathenDance back to your cringe hole, goat LARPER.

    • @DeathcoreOfKrieg
      @DeathcoreOfKrieg Місяць тому

      ​@@HeathenDancewho gives a shit about your pretentious views?

  • @blackMetalPiano
    @blackMetalPiano Місяць тому +13

    There are many reasons why people will never understand the wonder of Black Metal.

  • @loupnoir7924
    @loupnoir7924 Місяць тому +113

    Black metal is not for everyone 🖤🐺🖤🐺

    • @reeteereetee3636
      @reeteereetee3636 Місяць тому +10

      Cmon bro don’t be cringe

    • @rainforest9209
      @rainforest9209 Місяць тому +27

      ​@@reeteereetee3636not everyone likes it, it's not for everyone. Not cringe just true lmao it was made this way

    • @aaronmartinez5029
      @aaronmartinez5029 Місяць тому +6

      @@reeteereetee3636It’s true; most “metalheads” don’t listen to black metal.

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому +8

      @@aaronmartinez5029 Dude, REAL metalheads listen to bands from all the subgenres. And in many cases, it's a fusion of several.

    • @fatkiller1000
      @fatkiller1000 Місяць тому

      @aaronmartinez5029
      Get a load of this guy.
      Brother you don't even listen to anything other than black metal how are you gonna criticize anyone else?
      There's more chances I'll catch a thrasher listening to hair metal than I'll catch you listening to anything at all.

  • @tanneredge9774
    @tanneredge9774 Місяць тому +4

    Norway. Cold and dry in the winter, slightly less cold and wet in the summer. Perfect metal country.

  • @srenredissen5228
    @srenredissen5228 Місяць тому +4

    My simple answer is: I love black metal for guitar tremolo, blast beats and evil vocals.

  • @loupnoir7924
    @loupnoir7924 8 днів тому +2

    BLACK METAL gave me a lot more self-confidence than any other metal genre. The other genres of metal closed my mind to many things that I would never have discovered without BLACK METAL.
    I fuck all people who comments me because I worship BLACK METAL, this true Music of Nature 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤Black metal gave me a lot more self-confidence than any other metal genre. The other genres of metal closed my mind to many things that I would never have discovered without black metal.
    BLACK METAL IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. 🐺🖤

  • @Darksigilprod666
    @Darksigilprod666 Місяць тому +12

    Being a BM artist or musician myself, I personally enjoy the DIY aesthetic to the genre and the raw counterculture quality it presents itself with. But again, not everything is meant for everyone.

  • @user-pd6eb8ez2n
    @user-pd6eb8ez2n Місяць тому +6

    The bands he lists as examples he's listening to is WILD lmao

    • @zzzzzzz080
      @zzzzzzz080 Місяць тому

      Abruptum ain't bad at all, de profundus I enjoyed

    • @incitatus953
      @incitatus953 29 днів тому

      That Aäkon Këëtrëh record is incredible. Kinda weird of a black metal musician to knock something like that down..

  • @dcfromthev
    @dcfromthev Місяць тому +7

    Love black, death, metalcore, hardcore - all that shit. Probably why I'm really into modern deathcore these days, many of the bands have a little of everything.

  • @jamesriley72281
    @jamesriley72281 26 днів тому +2

    I was at Fortress Fest this year and the crowd/scene was a group of the coolest most welcoming folks you'd ever meet.

  • @andrzejdarek6989
    @andrzejdarek6989 Місяць тому +7

    11:06 It's not Absurd, it's two Polish bands Honor and Graveland on the "Raiders of Revenge" split from 2000.

  • @yourfavoritenetcitizen6525
    @yourfavoritenetcitizen6525 Місяць тому +54

    Black metal is underated. Theres so many bands besides mayhem that sound different.

    • @aaronmartinez5029
      @aaronmartinez5029 Місяць тому +6

      & people think it’s all satanic but honestly, it’s not true. The lyrics can be very powerful if they can just pay attention to it

    • @Shaggy2Swaggy
      @Shaggy2Swaggy Місяць тому

      @@aaronmartinez5029strangely enough Christian black metal is a thing

    • @Sumoniggro
      @Sumoniggro Місяць тому +1

      Well of course all the pioneering bands of the second wave and post second wave era like Satyricon, Darkthrone, immortal, Old school Dimmu Borgir, the summoning, dissection, Samael, old school behemoth, burzum mayhem, bathory, Marduk, 1349, gorgoroth (to a lesser extent in my opinion) etc.

    • @richardcarritt5126
      @richardcarritt5126 Місяць тому

      @@aaronmartinez5029 well they don't get that when they burned those Churches a true Christian couldn't care less as Jesus taught that the Church is in your heart. :P pointless exercise in the end haha

    • @Nasseinwonderland
      @Nasseinwonderland Місяць тому +1

      Agree. Also territorial nuances are spottable with bands from certain regions/countries. More volatile than some people assume

  • @ctiradperunovic
    @ctiradperunovic Місяць тому +39

    I more or less agree almost with everything, but the guy in the original video forgot to mention very important fact that accompanies black metal almost from the beginning - a reference to our original pre-christian cultures and paganism and the resulting opposition to christianity and other authoritarian religions. Of course, not all black metal bands are like that, but it is a fundamental fact that is inextricably linked to black metal. A lot of people who return to their roots do so through black metal as well.

    • @aaronmartinez5029
      @aaronmartinez5029 Місяць тому +3

      This was exactly why Varg burned down those churches

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому +2

      @@aaronmartinez5029 Ironically, in the Pagan Days, Varg would have been sentenced to death for killing Euronymous.

    • @PikeBishop1
      @PikeBishop1 Місяць тому +5

      I don't know much about BM, but it's interesting people focus on one apparent guy who murdered someone(?) when rappers, especially trap, LITERALLY brag about real life murders in their music. Multiple rappers are proven serial killers.

    • @Shaggy2Swaggy
      @Shaggy2Swaggy Місяць тому +1

      @@PikeBishop1the ppl who hate on bm are the same ppl who like king von (dude literally mocks ppl he’s killed in his songs)

    • @Sumoniggro
      @Sumoniggro Місяць тому

      The reason the lable trve kvlt exists

  • @richardcarritt5126
    @richardcarritt5126 Місяць тому +4

    I argue that Cradle of Filth is technically Black Metal at the core, it's just a bit cleaner and melodic. The Demo Spattered in Feces and the first 2 albums certainly should be considered Black Metal.

  • @user-sj1ny1br3o
    @user-sj1ny1br3o 18 днів тому +1

    Been really getting into Black Metal over the year and im very greatful it exists. Music isn't one thing it simply happens and will always be here. Call it good or bad it doesnt matter people wanted to make it and they made it.

  • @andersoncubillos
    @andersoncubillos Місяць тому +3

    As Ihsahn says when a fan base demmand from him black metal or new Emperor material: He was bored of doing the same and he started to experiment and cross the limits of the genre. He wants to keep the spirit of doing something challenging as he did when he started with Emperor.

  • @sunolili862
    @sunolili862 Місяць тому +11

    Two angels on my shoulders the nice one is Boris saying punk rock mba is stuck in the past and the other is wyattxhim who is mean and wants to call him a bitch

  • @Anotherfloydinthewall
    @Anotherfloydinthewall Місяць тому +4

    I’m 59 now, my band just progressed into BM in the late 80’s.
    It was an amazing experience as evolved darker and deeper.

  • @comesect
    @comesect Місяць тому +8

    Yeah, Ive watched one of his vids, I remember stopping before it ended and being like never again....black metal is interesting to me for a gut full of reasons, one particular thing about it is how one must have a sense of humor.

  • @johnbenedictxviii
    @johnbenedictxviii Місяць тому +7

    It's pretty funny how he trashes black metal for having a gatekeeper mentality, meanwhile he's involved with a music scene that's notorious for turning against bands that slightly change up their sound (e.g. see how the punk scene reacted to Black Flag's "My War" and TSOL's "Beneath the Shadows")

  • @ebrietasbiscuit
    @ebrietasbiscuit 27 днів тому +2

    I’ve been a punk rocker for 30 years and honestly not a huge PR MBA fan or metal fan. But I’m going to sub to watch your videos. Oi!

  • @jamesaddison665
    @jamesaddison665 Місяць тому +5

    I think that part of the appeal in the early days (for me the late 80s and early 90s) was that you had to work to find your way into it. You could buy a Morbid Angel album in pretty much any music store. Black Metal felt like you'd found a secret door into something a bit hidden and exciting. You'd eagerly hunt for tapes and faded photocopies of fanzines. Weirdly, part of the appeal was that pretty much everyone...even people who listened to death metal...HATED it. Black metal was the darkest corner of the basement of the metal scene.

    • @borist.
      @borist.  Місяць тому +3

      Man, I loved the excitement of finding new bands randomly. I don't know how much money I threw at bands I didn't know anything about besides the genre they were playing. I consider myself lucky to have been able to experience what waiting in front of a store felt like. Damn, I miss those times.

    • @jamesaddison665
      @jamesaddison665 Місяць тому

      @@borist. I laugh now, but I bought the first Impaled Nazarene album (on vinyl...I'm that old) pretty much because I thought the band name was cool and Finland seemed even more like a place for crazy guys in the woods than Norway. It took weeks to arrive and, when I got it, I played it again and again all day. My friends who liked heavy music thought it was just 'shitty noise' but, to my ears, it's was exhilarating and almost unsettling. Like smelling salts for the ears.

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому +1

      Black Metal was not and never was the darkest corner of the metal scene, in most cases. It was the most DRAMATIC, when it comes to both sound and aesthetics. Death Metal takes the cake of darkness, but by a mile. The sound is a lot more powerful, cold, , without emo-melancholic moments, and you have songs speaking about people being brutally murdered, tortured or r*ped. Even identifying the Human Race in general as an inferior species lol. And there are also Satanic Death Metal bands, like Deicide and Vader, whose lyrics are extremely and explicitly violent regarding how they praise Jesus choking to death on his blood, and smashing the face of Jewish God, etc. If your concept of "Darkness" is being mellow, dramatic and melancholic, there's a ton load of bands and artists outside Metal in general, which do it in a more deep manner than most Black Metal.

    • @jamesaddison665
      @jamesaddison665 Місяць тому

      @@HeathenDance I respect your view. I am just saying what it sounded like to me as a rural 16 year old English kid back in the early 90s. Back then...to me...Death metal was becoming pretty generic. Most of it was in the two sound camps of Sunlight Studios (Entombed, Vader etc) or Morrisound (Obituary, Morbid Angel). There were some bands outside of this, like Autopsy that had a raw sound that I still liked. In a time before the internet, Black metal sounded more underground and authentic. It didn't stay that way for long, but for a year or two before it blew up in the press, it was great.

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому

      @@jamesaddison665 That's cool, I like both genres, have tons of albums from bands from those domains, and to be honest, in my opinion, some bands are just impossible to categorize. But I just wanted to state that the "Black Metal is the Evilest corner of Metal/Music" is simply not true. The murders, church burnings and suicides of the Scandinavian scene simply worked as great marketing.

  • @GothicXlightning
    @GothicXlightning Місяць тому +4

    Got to love that Twitchy XENOMORPH shilling in the background
    yeah Doom metal man has spoken

  • @tommyf6576
    @tommyf6576 Місяць тому +8

    LOL I love how he cited LLN bands from mid 90s France that he loves...

    • @incitatus953
      @incitatus953 29 днів тому

      Aäkon Këëtrëh is fkn great though.

  • @toddmorse8972
    @toddmorse8972 Місяць тому +4

    I wish our summer was like that

  • @Quackionn
    @Quackionn Місяць тому +3

    Summer is great. I can have more rehearsals with my band, get a job (I'm at uni rn), sit at home, drink cold drinks and play some games like Bloodborne (amazing game)

    • @borist.
      @borist.  Місяць тому

      souls game fan here too 🤪

  • @numbv01d43
    @numbv01d43 Місяць тому +45

    Finn is a corporate shill that just talks to hear his own voice half the time. He's full of bad takes and bad information, I started ignoring his content long ago

    • @Suburbannite
      @Suburbannite 25 днів тому +3

      do you mind explaining what corporate shill means in the context of Finn McKenty. I can tell you're a pretty brilliant individual, i'd like to hear more of your opinion

  • @Alex-vm6ef
    @Alex-vm6ef 26 днів тому +1

    I was a big fan of underground rap, various genres of instrumental and ambient music, and lots of electronic music. As my friends tried to get me into death metal, metalcore, and real techie bands I ended up getting into black metal far more than I like the prior genres.

  • @dakotaturner6701
    @dakotaturner6701 Місяць тому +44

    Ah yes nazi bad because punk rock has no nazi bands at all right

    • @myrasherrill777
      @myrasherrill777 Місяць тому +7

      So true!! But people have always looked past bad things in their own genre yet make it a main point in someone else’s

    • @Sumoniggro
      @Sumoniggro Місяць тому +8

      If anything it shows how similar punk and black metal are at their driving attitudes, also to hold Finn to his standards Nazi punk and Nazi black metal are technically the Pinnacle of the contraian and anti-conformist spirit that were the impetus of the creation of the genres.

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj Місяць тому

      ​@@Sumoniggro As for nazi music being the peak of contrarianism and contrarianism, no. That is a myth I wish people would stop spreading, because n*zism is not the most dangerous thing to society. I would say a band like G.G. Allin & the Murder Junkies or G.I.S.M. that espouse pure nihilistic violence, disgusting dangerous anti-social behaviors, and nasty bitter vitriol are the purest expression of that spirit.
      Having a political ideology in the first place makes you conform to the rules of society (you just want different rules, but same system of living). Pure anti-contrarianism is rejecting civilization and anything that binds you to so-called decency or morals
      In this sense, a lot of war metal/bestial black metal expresses the rebellious ideology of black metal way better than NSBM. Because those bands are all about pure feral rejection and the triumph of the individual against the world

    • @TheJollyMisanthrope
      @TheJollyMisanthrope Місяць тому

      It's full of commies, which isn't any better.

    • @scoiattolosabbioso4420
      @scoiattolosabbioso4420 Місяць тому +4

      Let's be real here... they are not tolerated in punk so it's not the same, you can't really compare it. There are nazis everywhere tho

  • @peacecoyote1592
    @peacecoyote1592 Місяць тому +1

    i feel like it's generally a tell tale sign of someone's misunderstanding of people, or a given situation, when they something like "it's just evolutionary biology"

  • @solaris9250
    @solaris9250 Місяць тому +4

    How can you still see like/dislike ratio? They removed the dislike number years ago.

  • @veteran_of_pain
    @veteran_of_pain Місяць тому +4

    LONG LIVE THE VARG SELF DEFENCE TUTORIAL VIDEOS! I'm surprised "the Norwegian " doesn't train at home to those. Does she Boris? You can tell us.....

  • @PinkDesertEagle
    @PinkDesertEagle Місяць тому +32

    Saying black metal is boring is crazy to me. You just don't get it!

  • @loompy1440
    @loompy1440 Місяць тому +5

    Finn rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but I’ve learned a lot of interesting things about music and art from him. The inner hater in me enjoys the slight trolling he does to create engagement and trigger the overly serious fans in his comments. At the end of the day a UA-camr is an entertainer. He definitely has a lot of opinions and takes that I don’t agree with, but I respect him and can still see his value in the internet extreme music space. I like almost all types of metal personally. There’s usually something good if you look hard enough and invest a little time to find the artists that do appeal to you. (nerds larping can make amazing art too)

  • @Diogolindir
    @Diogolindir Місяць тому +3

    I started to like some black metal when I started to related it to some sort of dark fantasy because Im a nerd. I have a soft spot for Dungeon Synth as well.

  • @freddymichalak9306
    @freddymichalak9306 Місяць тому +1

    Since he said he's a punk musician in his 40's I'm guessing the times where music was passed mostly by word of mouth lacking the internet, Most the bands he pulled out were underground in America's which back then was fenced by hardcore bands like biohazard European bands were rare and mostly mayhem was able to break the publicity boundaries in the time, The best black metal bands were mostly in Europe which was only known to America from UA-cam itself

  • @gustavoflores6583
    @gustavoflores6583 Місяць тому +3

    tengo 54 años y hasta la fecha el Black Metal para mí sigue siendo tan divertido como en los años 80. Si ese tipo no tiene oídos que no oiga, que escuche cosas simples y que no hable....
    Me gusta tu contenido Boris
    Saludos desde Buenos Aires

  • @VideoprojectsbyLina.A-sv4qf
    @VideoprojectsbyLina.A-sv4qf 27 днів тому

    I wish summer would always be like this...bleak and rainy...

  • @johanzuidema353
    @johanzuidema353 Місяць тому +6

    pff i dont care, i just listen to what i like. That goes from Mayhem to Sisters of mercy. True or not, I just dont give a fuck.

  • @tudorevi
    @tudorevi Місяць тому +1

    Satyricon shared the stage this weekend with Korn in Sibiu, Romania, a day apart, true, but still, quite a match.

  • @madmkt
    @madmkt Місяць тому +40

    he didnt mention at all that we all are in it for the atmosphere and romanticism. therefore he failed with his attempt...
    it seems as if he is using music only to push whatever his agenda is while most of us are in it for the music..

    • @METALSCAVENGER78
      @METALSCAVENGER78 27 днів тому

      That' s because he is a poser, clueless, arrogant, full of himself, smug piece of turd

  • @hymerdl1
    @hymerdl1 Місяць тому +2

    Finn is stuck on the perception I had of black metal which is largely from the 90's to mid 00's. When I first got into metal I was big into thrash and I discovered cradle of filth and dimmu not too long after and I tried to dive deeper into black metal via forums back in the day and it was very gatekeep-y. so I ended up having having a pretty sour taste in my mouth about the black metal community until last year when actually we acquired a new vocalist for my band who is very big into black metal and at first when we asked him for influences and he said BM i internally groaned, but he's a phenomenal vocalist and we agreed to bring him on and he's one of the most chill dudes i know and really has educated on BM. It was very eye opening and now he's showing me a ton of BM bands that are honestly fantastic. I like Finn, most of the stuff he said I understand to be factually correct, but his perception should be updated. If he still doesn't like the music that fine art is subjective, but to think all BM fans are still these elitist dorks burning churches is odd.

  • @Bembelrocker
    @Bembelrocker Місяць тому +13

    Great to see that adult former Black Metal elitists agree on a simple fact. It was great feeling superior in our youth, trying to live the cult. I can laugh very hard about my former self and still love the good old stuff.

    • @heimdall9095
      @heimdall9095 Місяць тому +1

      Oh shit so true😂 I everytime said Dimmu is bullshit but at home i listen a lot to them😂

  • @jamesriley72281
    @jamesriley72281 26 днів тому

    Also, I had hoped he would talk about how black metal has had a massive influence across all modern genres of metal. There's so much black metal sound in deathcore for example. You hear tremelo picking parts, high shrieking vocals, etc in all of that. This is discussed enough IMO.

  • @jackwhiteakajoker9394
    @jackwhiteakajoker9394 Місяць тому +11

    I'm more of a metalcore guy but I respect black metal fans all the way

    • @LicoriceLain
      @LicoriceLain Місяць тому +4

      @@s3am999 Extremely fun to see in person. Core bands may be an acquired taste as far as records go, but in terms of shows, they are very high energy and satisfying.

    • @eclat4641
      @eclat4641 Місяць тому +4

      It’s great to like lots of genres…
      It’s good you respect.

    • @jackwhiteakajoker9394
      @jackwhiteakajoker9394 Місяць тому +2

      @@s3am999 the music has the harsh vocals of black and death metal but combinme that with singing that is the reason i respect black and death

    • @Ixe2077
      @Ixe2077 Місяць тому

      ​@@LicoriceLain I can agree. I'm not exactly a metalcore fan, if anything I've hated on it more than I've listened to it, but I have managed to watch a live metalcore show and it was quite fun.

  • @tattered.andtorn
    @tattered.andtorn Місяць тому +1

    i grew up with a lot of nu and thrash metal, so theyre my favorites (and slam ofc), but I've recently gotten more into black metal. it's one of my favorite genres of metal atm

  • @innerworld2279
    @innerworld2279 Місяць тому +4

    Black metal is art thats why he cant get it . Look at him , he is like a tv commercial .

  • @erikdee3032
    @erikdee3032 Місяць тому +2

    Good video. I enjoyed both sides. The first 2 Venom albums were incredible. Bathory from inception to Valhalla. I like Cradle, Dimmu, and satyricon. Love the dark throne and mayhem. Like the black noise and experimental.

  • @gabrielknight5726
    @gabrielknight5726 Місяць тому +5

    Back in the 90s before the internet was so accessible and full of information like it is now. Lords of Chaos exposed us to a lot bands we never heard of. And gave us a synopsis of the scene, since it was so underground.There was maybe 1 cd of the major BM bands like Emperor and Dimmu Borgir in the record stores.

  • @dcfromthev
    @dcfromthev Місяць тому +1

    Truthfully, all bands within a given genre tend to sound very similar. That is the whole idea behind a genre, afterall. For me, the most interesting music is when different genres are combined in creative and novel ways. This is likely why stuff like Blackened Symphonic Deathcore are so appealing these past 10 or so years, they have the best of all worlds! To each their own, I respect and enjoy almost every form of music to some extent, from pop to metal to country to rap. But hey, that's just me, a guy with a short attention span and almost zero bias or bigotry in my perception of the world, from music and beyond.

  • @Victor-kh5rh
    @Victor-kh5rh Місяць тому +23

    The problem with Black Metal is the inevitable game of “but are they Nazi” you have to play whenever you discover a cool band.

    • @Reed5016
      @Reed5016 26 днів тому +4

      Yup. That’s the dark side.

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 23 дні тому +7

      I don't have to play anything. If it sounds good I listen to it, if it sounds bad I don't.

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus 22 дні тому +8

      @@frankvandorp9732 This. I do not care what is the bands political or religious leaning, I care about the art they make from it. Even if the subject is something I do not agree with (I do not like Satanism and I definetly hate Nazis), I can still appreciate that they are bringing up their views in a good, beautiful (so to speak) manner like music. I do not agree with what they are saying but I can like the way they are saying it.

    • @ThePhospholipids
      @ThePhospholipids 17 днів тому

      Very true. What's almost worse is the people who constantly say "why do you care about politics? Just appreciate the music, snowflake" when you KNOW they are in no way affected by nazi bigotry.🤦

    • @Strvbe
      @Strvbe 17 днів тому

      Yeah can’t be listening to any non-Nazi bands.

  • @avinashthamal
    @avinashthamal 10 днів тому +1

    This guy is basically another Rick Beato yelling at clouds. Best to ignore and keep listening to whatever genre that moves you.

  • @ppnats
    @ppnats Місяць тому +5

    The guy is stuck in “the past” or whatever his research led him to. There’s little talk about the music and dismissed as boring. Anyone can dismiss anything as “boring” if you do not understand it.
    Oh well. Nice Vid Reaction.

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj Місяць тому +8

      It's so weird that for other genres, he at least lists off some elements of the music (how metalcore stole at the gates riffs and emphasized breakdowns, or how death metal used low growls, tremolo picking and interesting blast beats), but for this video he says nothing. No mention of tremolo picked intense, hypnotic, melancholic, or uplifting melodies... no mention of the european folk influence and actual use of folk instruments sometimes... no mention of banshee shrieks or hate forest orc vocals... no mention of primitive drumming...
      Just the production... *sigh*

    • @incitatus953
      @incitatus953 29 днів тому

      Yet Boris dismissed Aäkon Këëtrëh because he doesn't understand it.
      "You could record something like that in 5 min"
      Literally the take of someone listening to black metal for the first time.

  • @txabieretxeberriotxoa3505
    @txabieretxeberriotxoa3505 15 днів тому

    13:50 Boris lifts hand,, points finger: "Eeeh... Yes and no."
    This is what I live for. Humble recognition of flaws and based assertion of facts.
    You're the best with your reaction videos, Boris.

  • @LokiTricksterG
    @LokiTricksterG 14 днів тому +3

    The problem with Finn's video is that he implies people only like black metal for the marketing/image of the scene, rather than the music itself. That's blatantly untrue, and unless you're a high schooler, most music fans don't care about fitting into a "scene".
    The reality is, black metal is popular because the music is creative, atmospheric, varied, and constantly evolving. Darkthrone, Agalloch, and Blut Aus Nord would all loosely be categorized as black metal, but none of them sound remotely similar. Finn's point about black metal bands being copycats is absurd. Does anyone listen to a band like Panopticon and think they're trying to copy Burzum? No.

  • @michaelwalker8250
    @michaelwalker8250 11 днів тому

    I think Burzum's "Det som engang var" was the first black metal I listened to, and since then I love black metal. Not all black metal, but there are tracks that are just perfect. "Ov my herculean exile" by Behemoth is my recent favorite.

  • @user-ro8iw4ru4r
    @user-ro8iw4ru4r Місяць тому +4

    As someone who’s not super familiar with your channel but is a big fan of the punk rock mba, you’re such a cool guy. I appreciate how intelligent, respectful and knowledgeable you are. Time to binge your catalog my dude! Cheers!!

  • @martindeviantxiii
    @martindeviantxiii 13 днів тому

    It's been 12° all summer here in Scotland, feel yer pain Boris

  • @infernalcapricorn
    @infernalcapricorn Місяць тому +33

    This guy is basically saying nothing.

  • @claudiasolomon1123
    @claudiasolomon1123 Місяць тому

    I've noticed whenever I record a metal song that is fast, short, has mid range harsh vocals, inevitibly someone will say "sounds like black metal." this shows me what a superficial understanding of black metal many folks have. My influences are grindcore, thrash, death metal. I have no problem with black metal though. Its growing on me.

  • @rebelsatyr5362
    @rebelsatyr5362 Місяць тому +6

    Black metal is def not for everyone and that's perfectly ok

  • @lerchfreyley1
    @lerchfreyley1 Місяць тому +1

    This happens to every .music genre of all sounds

  • @shoujahatsumetsu
    @shoujahatsumetsu Місяць тому +5

    Darkthrone really takes the shit out of black metal on "Too Old Too Cold".
    On the whole political thing though, nazi punk exists too, NSBM don't have exclusivity on that, case of "punk calling the metal black". It's a perfectly valid subgenre though - it's antagonistic, provocative, offensive and anti-establishment, and what more could black metal aspire to be?
    If the establishment is muslim, make anti-islamic black metal.
    If the establishment is christian, make anti-christian black metal.
    If the establishment is woke, make anti-woke black metal. And so on.
    The establishment never lasts forever, and when it changes its values, the antagonistic focus changes too in the opposite direction. Anti-Christian black metal was a really provocative thing in the days where the Christian establishment of that era had its Satanic Panic towards music, films, video games, books and so on, but now anti-Christianity is mainstream and really just low-hanging fruit - black metal should really just start burning Qurans and LGBT flags to get back into the game again. 😈
    When Hoest of Taake painted a swastika on his chest at a concert in Germany simply because he wanted to offend the Germans watching, he was doing it right - even though he doesn't play NSBM at all - the aftershock was epic, and in true spirit 😁

  • @loupnoir7924
    @loupnoir7924 7 днів тому +1

    Black metal is not for everyone 🖤🐺

  • @reaperwhite2756
    @reaperwhite2756 Місяць тому +3

    16:48 onwards. Pure comedy 😆

  • @ivangidlund7754
    @ivangidlund7754 7 днів тому

    I really like black metal and metalcore but i wasnt really a fan of any of them before but that changed when i actually started listening to it more and found the varieties that got me into it. Im still not the biggest fan of modern metalcore but im such a sucker for the more hardcore based variety released before 2005. I think that black metal is still the style i listen to more but it feels nice having taken a dive into these genres.

  • @dckaelin
    @dckaelin Місяць тому +3

    That expression at 17:02 😂😂😂

  • @JediCrackSmoke
    @JediCrackSmoke Місяць тому

    I was pleasantly surprised by how fair, logically consistent, and mature your reaction was to the video. It says a lot about your character. Great job.

  • @Francyaf77
    @Francyaf77 Місяць тому +3

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 black metal bonly in my life

  • @TheJollyMisanthrope
    @TheJollyMisanthrope Місяць тому

    I bought Blackened Vol. 1 at a record store back in 1996, and have been a fan of black metal ever since. I don't like all bands, but there's a ton of great material that's been produced over the past 35+ years. It's definitely an acquired taste, but if it resonates with you then it's a hell of a great listen. A lot of it is the atmosphere that is created by the music, and the aggression.
    If you grew up a fan of horror films, the occult, myths surrounding vampires and werewolves, dark fantasy novels, Dungeons & Dragons, and all that sort of stuff, especially back in the 80's and early 90's, black metal just creates the perfect soundtrack to go along with all of that.

  • @notyaboi2781
    @notyaboi2781 Місяць тому +78

    Punk Rock MBA is if wikipedia was a poser. Cant stand this dude and the amount of misinformation he spews.

    • @sisterhoney61
      @sisterhoney61 Місяць тому +13

      I can't stand him, either! He just rambles on and on about stuff he absolutely knows nothing about.

    • @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37
      @AdrasteiaMJimenez_37 Місяць тому +2

      Totally agree

    • @HeathenDance
      @HeathenDance Місяць тому +2

      And yet you know so much about him.

    • @notyaboi2781
      @notyaboi2781 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@HeathenDanceSimple research goes a long way. You should try it sometime instead of being ignorant, you have access to the internet.

    • @WolfAngelChaos
      @WolfAngelChaos Місяць тому +4

      agreed

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Місяць тому

    We like it because it's awesome! The first music my son ever heard was Burzum Dunkelheit about half an hour after he was born. It calmed him down and he fell asleep.

  • @garrettbryan2717
    @garrettbryan2717 Місяць тому +3

    I blocked Finn. I can’t take his shit anymore.

  • @tomh888
    @tomh888 9 днів тому

    Keep going bro, black metal is life

  • @OGxCSH
    @OGxCSH Місяць тому +3

    Cheers Boris...

    • @OGxCSH
      @OGxCSH Місяць тому

      Once again brother...you killed it with this video. Hails from Southern California 🤘🤘🤘

  • @askeesi-bekagachava2289
    @askeesi-bekagachava2289 Місяць тому +1

    It's good that not everyone will understand what black metal really means! ⚔️🏴‍☠️🖤

  • @aa779
    @aa779 Місяць тому +1

    'atleast we dont do drugs' was a great comeback

  • @MrLordjonathan
    @MrLordjonathan Місяць тому +3

    Xasthur !