That's the right way to explain the use of this bike. Love your tech reasoning. Currently I'm on the Energica EVA. And that charges pretty fast. Mostly 17-19kW from 10-90%. So I was doubting the slower charge on the LW. The higher range and the 10-80 method might just get me in the same charge interval. The L1/2 charging is very disappointed though. I can now take 3kW and charge in 4 hours at work or home. These take 11 hours. It's not to frequently for me. However way less practical. Also when you would need to skip a broken CCS charger. I am very tempted to get the LW. Did a test ride and it suits my style better. Technicaly and pricewise I might be better off with a SS9+. Those do more miles nowadays albeit on longer charge too. Hard time to justify me wanting that LW.
Jack, a quick solution for your regen kill switch is built in already. Simply disable the primary riding profiles, set two identical riding modes - one with and without regen. Have those two the only active profiles, then tap the ride mode to simulate the kill switch you’re referring to
Excellent review, I’m interested in purchasing a LiveWire and was encouraged to see someone ride the bike like it would be used on a normal ride not a test session. This is what I’ve been searching for in a review. Again great job……
Great insight on the regen and battery capacity. Your conclusion makes sense, the fact that they charge at 20kw from zero charge and regen backs your conclusion.
As for the battery padding, that makes a lot of sense and I feel was a smart move on HD (or Samsung?). In long way up, the engineers pushed the padding down to extend Charley and Ewans range. Based on the TFT shown in the final episode (when they finally fast charge), it seems as though they ran close to 15kW usable for the trip (14.7kW based on what I could muster from the limited info). Would be cool if those extra kW could be used on the production bikes, however I wouldn’t want that at the cost of battery lifespan. When the LWU livewires we’re altered, it was done knowing these would only be used for that trip and never again, so the risk was worth the reward in that regard. Thanks for the insightful video!
You hit it on the head. Yes charge 80-90% and go and repeat and go. A lady rider road a LW1 500 miles on a wet highway in one day. I think Harley Davidson and other people are being very small minded because they don’t understand that Livewire and Energica electric motorcycles can get you across the country. You just need to plan better. Thx
What a great real world video of living with the Harley Live wire. I think this bike is something that would make a great commuter bike if your job was near a charging station or especially had one there. I completely agree the app should tell you when the bike is charged and especially if the cord was removed or the bike messed with in any way. I am extremely impressed that Harley Davidson has created this real world electric motorcycle. The cornering abs is a amazing safety feature as well as the engineered in traction control system. I was surprised at the price difference as well as the charging speed between the various stations. Great video.
Here’s a video I did a couple of weeks ago commuting on the LiveWire ONE: ua-cam.com/video/H_lUAqX9I7s/v-deo.html Yesterday, the Senate passed a bill that qualifies the bike for a $7,500 instant tax credit. It will be signed into law this weekend. You’d better hurry…
Supposedly zero owners with bikes that have 15,000 mi on them say that there is definitely noticeable degradation. The padding is definitely a good idea on these bikes. Most other manufacturers are telling you the total capacity in general, but some manufacturers tell you the usable capacity such as Harley Davidson which is quite nice. I've heard a few mixed things about the capacity but 15.8 kW is pretty close to what many people report including when they are doing reviews like you and Harley gives them the bike for a week. The one thing that you should have mentioned in this video is the charging system for AC charging is pretty sensitive on this bike and that using an extension cord can actually damage your onboard charger and cause you to need to replace it. Harley is pretty good about that though and they will generally cover it under a warranty only. If you've done this multiple times, will they make you pay and you'd probably have to do it three times or more before? It's not a warranty issue and it's you just being careless with your bike.
Nice vid. Interesting to see your stable. I have some of the same, notably the Z H2 and Streetfighter. I'll take the Z for normal road road any day though. Regarding the number of cells, if they actually did what you are suggesting (not saying they did or didn't) that is a lot of extra weight to carry all the time just to manage the degradation of the batteries better. On the highway not as much impact if steady state cruising but in the city it would hurt efficiency and whenever you do a lot of accelerating and braking. As for your charging approach, I've used this approach on my Teslas and other EVs for a long time when using L3 charging. The batteries can tolerate a higher rate of charge when they are more discharged. On my Teslas it makes a huge difference. At a low start of charge (SoC) I can be charging at about 1000 miles per hour (~16 miles per minute). So even a 5 min blast at full speed of the charging can add 60-70 real world miles. Unfortunately the Livewire has lower voltage architecture so can't really suck down the electrons as fast. Keeping in the lower SoC level for charging is easier on the battery as well. Still worse than L2 or L1 charging but at least you aren't hurting it as much. If going on a long trip, or a long ride, I'd also suggest using the ABRP app (a better route planner). They have an alpha version of a profile for the Livewire. It can help you optimize your stops for minimum recharging time by putting in where you want to go and if you want to make fewer stops but more time, or more stops but less time or what makes for the quickest trip.
I've done more research on the LiveWire batteries since I did the video. It turns out, I was completely wrong. The LiveWire is using prismatic batteries. They are more expensive, but they run cooler and are much more durable. I'm thinking about doing a video on the batteries sometime soon.
I think 6.28 is still way better than paying 5 bones for one gallon of gas though lol it literally costs 15 bucks to fill up my bike now so this is definitely the way to go lol
What did you think of the stand , I find the serrated bottom can grab on corse tarmac so the bike doesn’t lean and engage the lock on the stand , it hasn’t caused me any problems so far. The point you made about having a button to disable the regenerative braking was interesting. I have gone to engage the cruse control only to let go of the throttle and have the regen come on when I didn’t.
I agree that the side-stand is messed up. If you’re not careful, you can easily drop the bike. It needs to lock in without having to put weight on it. The Harley side- stands are all kind of screwy too. I guess it’s part of the personality of the bike!…
I’m about to make a deal this weekend on a purchase. Here’s what I’ve got them down to. 25,753 out the door price. Free $250 helmet. And free tires for life.
@@freedomiseverything ya the free tires wasn’t a special deal just for me. As long as u buy it from HD dealer and u are the original owner of the bike it’s free tires for life.
@@freedomiseverything also LiveWire’s price out the Door with Tag, Sales tax etc was $25462 vs HD dealer was $25753. Only $270 diff so after the free $250 helmet I picked off the shelf. It evened out. Besides I would of had to wait 6 weeks for the bike to be delivered from LiveWire’s website vs just paying for the bike at HD dealer and driving away same day.
@@fryguyslim Is your HD dealership in California? I haven't heard of the free tires for life deal, but thank you for mentioning it. I wonder if they have that with the 2022 LiveWire One bikes as well. Is your bike the LW1 or the HD LW?
Sorry I missed you! I love riding in the Santa Monica mountains and the LiveWire Malibu Experience always has cool people hanging out there on the weekends. Plus, the Electrify America chargers in the parking lot have been free for the last few weeks. Last weekend, they had a Del Mar in the showroom. I begged them to let me take it for a ride. But, they claimed they didn't have the FOB to fire it up. Yeah, right...
...because the video is *ABOUT* charging the bike?? He rode ALL DAY (started in the morning and got home after dark) Not that your comment would dissuade anyone from purchasing the bike. 😅
Pretty impressive how Harley engineered such a great bike.... You mentioned how many kWh you used, but I'm interested in how much you paid for all that. Did you keep track of it and how many miles you rode? Thanks for the great video!
Charging the bike at a public charger is a crap shoot. I’ve paid as little as free and as much as $7.00. Some chargers even add a parking fee. When I gas up my Street Fighter, it cost about $18.00 and I ride about the same distance (120 miles).
It doesn’t work on a Tesla Supercharger. The best thing to do is download the “Plug Share” app. Set the filter to “CCS” and it will show you the chargers in your area that will work.
They are the stock mirrors turned upside down. The visibility is perfect. You can see everything behind you. You have to adjust them carefully so they don’t hit the tank when you have the handlebars fully locked
It cost me $15.05 to do the 248 miles in the video. This is because I got burned at an EV-Go charger in Santa Monica. Since this ride, I have gotten ripped-off at other chargers too. There is a charger in Azusa that even tacked on a $2.50 parking fee! As of March 14, the bike has 4,012 miles on it. The total electricity used is 722 kwh. That's 5.55667 miles per kwh. I always ride in a custom mode with full power, fastest throttle response and full regen. I always ride hard, never shrink from a drag race and usually set the cruise control for 85 mph on the freeway. I charge at home for $.14 a kwh. There are some level 3 chargers at the Santa Anita Mall nearby that charge for free. Most of the publicly available chargers are about $.40 a kwh. That's 2.5 cents per mile charging at home and 7.2 cents per mile fast charging at a public charger. As a cost per mile comparison, I have five other bikes in my garage: Kawasaki Z h2 - 25 mpg Ducati V4S Streetfigher - 35 mpg Yamaha MT10 - 39 mpg Suzuki B-King - 36 mpg Kawasaki Z125 - 97 mpg Premium gas at my local Chevron station is $6.37 per gallon today: Kawasaki Z h2 - 25.5 cents per mile Ducati V4S Streetfigher - 18.2 cents per gallon Yamaha MT10 - 16.3 cents per gallon Suzuki B-King - 17.7 cents per gallon Kawasaki Z125 - 6.6 cents per gallon LiveWire One - 2.5 cents per mile charging at home, 7.2 cents per mile at public charger In most cases, the LiveWire is going to be cheaper than the Z125. Plus, the LiveWire is a lot more fun to ride...
@@freedomiseverything Thank you for the very informative reply. That really helps me on deciding to move from gas to electric. I ride a Honda F6B at the moment. It averages around 40 mpg.
It specifically tells you in the owner‘s manual not to use an extension cord. I have read postings where people have used a cord anyway and had a problem. However, I had to use an extension cord to get around a car in the garage. I went to Home Depot and got some heavy duty cable and two custom plugs and made my own 10 foot long extension cord. I’ve used it about it dozen times. It works perfectly.
I inquired about getting one and I got into an accident lost my car and I want to get one just wanted to know if it is true. I heard that Harley Davidson some dealerships were renting the livewire is it true anywhere in the valley Chatsworth or Canoga reseda area if anybody knows a dealership that will rent please let me know thank you.
Great stable of bikes. LiveWire is disappointing though. Limited range and slow charge times are going to hurt sales. Traditional motorcycle riders are not going to bite. I’m a Tesla owner too so I get the whole range/charge issue. Level 2 and DC fast charging should be a lot faster on the bike. No more than 10-15 minutes. That EV Go charger raped you at about $1.00 a kWh. Ridiculous. As to battery pack size, you’ll see that many Teslas have an 80 kWh pack, but only about 72-75 kWh usable, with the car having a buffer like the Livewire appears to.
No riding vidio?🥺 & cost 2 charge it? My friend is picking up the ORIGINAL HD LIVEWIRE NEXT FRIDAY WITH ALL 3 COLOR TANK & FAIRING COLORS SHOULD B AWESOME 😃👍✌🇺🇸🇺🇸
I need to get a GoPro. I'm new to making videos. The cost to charge the bike has been answered in some of the other comments. Your friend is for a sweet ride...
Great begginers tutorial on how to manage inner city EV chargin on a LiveWire thank you for putiing this together!
Finally someone who's reviewing this that understands how lithium battery / charging works
That's the right way to explain the use of this bike. Love your tech reasoning.
Currently I'm on the Energica EVA. And that charges pretty fast. Mostly 17-19kW from 10-90%. So I was doubting the slower charge on the LW. The higher range and the 10-80 method might just get me in the same charge interval.
The L1/2 charging is very disappointed though. I can now take 3kW and charge in 4 hours at work or home. These take 11 hours. It's not to frequently for me. However way less practical. Also when you would need to skip a broken CCS charger.
I am very tempted to get the LW. Did a test ride and it suits my style better. Technicaly and pricewise I might be better off with a SS9+. Those do more miles nowadays albeit on longer charge too.
Hard time to justify me wanting that LW.
Jack, a quick solution for your regen kill switch is built in already. Simply disable the primary riding profiles, set two identical riding modes - one with and without regen. Have those two the only active profiles, then tap the ride mode to simulate the kill switch you’re referring to
Wow, what a great idea! Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
Excellent review, I’m interested in purchasing a LiveWire and was encouraged to see someone ride the bike like it would be used on a normal ride not a test session. This is what I’ve been searching for in a review. Again great job……
i work at livewire, you should visit and ride one.. worth the experience
Great insight on the regen and battery capacity. Your conclusion makes sense, the fact that they charge at 20kw from zero charge and regen backs your conclusion.
As a new owner, i truly appreciate this upload.
Join the Harley-Davidson LiveWire Owners Group on Facebook. Lots of good information there to help a new owner.
Welcome.
Great point about the regen and battery pack! Makes so much sense when you talk about what Tesla and Zero say also. Thank you for all your insight.
this is exactly the video ive been looking for. Thank you for taking the time to make it and explaining how to get the most out of the bike.
Level 3 (DC FAST) is a must for any electric bike. Harley did that part right.
Thanks again for doing this. You really give real world video and not just a sales video.
As for the battery padding, that makes a lot of sense and I feel was a smart move on HD (or Samsung?). In long way up, the engineers pushed the padding down to extend Charley and Ewans range. Based on the TFT shown in the final episode (when they finally fast charge), it seems as though they ran close to 15kW usable for the trip (14.7kW based on what I could muster from the limited info). Would be cool if those extra kW could be used on the production bikes, however I wouldn’t want that at the cost of battery lifespan. When the LWU livewires we’re altered, it was done knowing these would only be used for that trip and never again, so the risk was worth the reward in that regard. Thanks for the insightful video!
Thanks for the video! I’m gonna have my LW delivered in a few days and still learning this useful info.
Very informative! Great Video, Jack!
Great job. You’ve got me interested now!
You hit it on the head. Yes charge 80-90% and go and repeat and go. A lady rider road a LW1 500 miles on a wet highway in one day. I think Harley Davidson and other people are being very small minded because they don’t understand that Livewire and Energica electric motorcycles can get you across the country. You just need to plan better. Thx
I agree completely. However, you can’t do it without DC Fast charging. LiveWire and Energica are the only bikes that qualify.
Excellent video
What a great real world video of living with the Harley Live wire.
I think this bike is something that would make a great commuter bike if your job was near a charging station or especially had one there.
I completely agree the app should tell you when the bike is charged and especially if the cord was removed or the bike messed with in any way.
I am extremely impressed that Harley Davidson has created this real world electric motorcycle.
The cornering abs is a amazing safety feature as well as the engineered in traction control system.
I was surprised at the price difference as well as the charging speed between the various stations.
Great video.
Here’s a video I did a couple of weeks ago commuting on the LiveWire ONE:
ua-cam.com/video/H_lUAqX9I7s/v-deo.html
Yesterday, the Senate passed a bill that qualifies the bike for a $7,500 instant tax credit. It will be signed into law this weekend. You’d better hurry…
This was a great review...
Supposedly zero owners with bikes that have 15,000 mi on them say that there is definitely noticeable degradation. The padding is definitely a good idea on these bikes. Most other manufacturers are telling you the total capacity in general, but some manufacturers tell you the usable capacity such as Harley Davidson which is quite nice. I've heard a few mixed things about the capacity but 15.8 kW is pretty close to what many people report including when they are doing reviews like you and Harley gives them the bike for a week. The one thing that you should have mentioned in this video is the charging system for AC charging is pretty sensitive on this bike and that using an extension cord can actually damage your onboard charger and cause you to need to replace it. Harley is pretty good about that though and they will generally cover it under a warranty only. If you've done this multiple times, will they make you pay and you'd probably have to do it three times or more before? It's not a warranty issue and it's you just being careless with your bike.
Nice vid. Interesting to see your stable. I have some of the same, notably the Z H2 and Streetfighter. I'll take the Z for normal road road any day though. Regarding the number of cells, if they actually did what you are suggesting (not saying they did or didn't) that is a lot of extra weight to carry all the time just to manage the degradation of the batteries better. On the highway not as much impact if steady state cruising but in the city it would hurt efficiency and whenever you do a lot of accelerating and braking.
As for your charging approach, I've used this approach on my Teslas and other EVs for a long time when using L3 charging. The batteries can tolerate a higher rate of charge when they are more discharged. On my Teslas it makes a huge difference. At a low start of charge (SoC) I can be charging at about 1000 miles per hour (~16 miles per minute). So even a 5 min blast at full speed of the charging can add 60-70 real world miles. Unfortunately the Livewire has lower voltage architecture so can't really suck down the electrons as fast. Keeping in the lower SoC level for charging is easier on the battery as well. Still worse than L2 or L1 charging but at least you aren't hurting it as much.
If going on a long trip, or a long ride, I'd also suggest using the ABRP app (a better route planner). They have an alpha version of a profile for the Livewire. It can help you optimize your stops for minimum recharging time by putting in where you want to go and if you want to make fewer stops but more time, or more stops but less time or what makes for the quickest trip.
I've done more research on the LiveWire batteries since I did the video. It turns out, I was completely wrong. The LiveWire is using prismatic batteries. They are more expensive, but they run cooler and are much more durable. I'm thinking about doing a video on the batteries sometime soon.
I think 6.28 is still way better than paying 5 bones for one gallon of gas though lol it literally costs 15 bucks to fill up my bike now so this is definitely the way to go lol
I'd rather pay the 15 dollars then 90 for to fill a 2022 Acadia
@@johnboe412 lol very true bro. Them GMCs get ya everytimeeeeeee
That would definitely make sense for California people…
What did you think of the stand , I find the serrated bottom can grab on corse tarmac so the bike doesn’t lean and engage the lock on the stand , it hasn’t caused me any problems so far.
The point you made about having a button to disable the regenerative braking was interesting.
I have gone to engage the cruse control only to let go of the throttle and have the regen come on when I didn’t.
I agree that the side-stand is messed up. If you’re not careful, you can easily drop the bike. It needs to lock in without having to put weight on it. The Harley side- stands are all kind of screwy too. I guess it’s part of the personality of the bike!…
"EVs are silent", meanwhile charging station thinks it's a jet engine.
I’m about to make a deal this weekend on a purchase. Here’s what I’ve got them down to. 25,753 out the door price. Free $250 helmet. And free tires for life.
I kept trying to negotiate the price and never got them to come off even a penny. I never thought about asking for a free helmet and tires!…
@@freedomiseverything ya the free tires wasn’t a special deal just for me. As long as u buy it from HD dealer and u are the original owner of the bike it’s free tires for life.
@@freedomiseverything also LiveWire’s price out the Door with Tag, Sales tax etc was $25462 vs HD dealer was $25753. Only $270 diff so after the free $250 helmet I picked off the shelf. It evened out. Besides I would of had to wait 6 weeks for the bike to be delivered from LiveWire’s website vs just paying for the bike at HD dealer and driving away same day.
@@fryguyslim Is your HD dealership in California? I haven't heard of the free tires for life deal, but thank you for mentioning it. I wonder if they have that with the 2022 LiveWire One bikes as well. Is your bike the LW1 or the HD LW?
@@Mr-E. no I’m in Florida. My local HD dealer does that for anybody that buys any bike at their dealer.
you were at Livewire malibu!!! we are there now
Sorry I missed you! I love riding in the Santa Monica mountains and the LiveWire Malibu Experience always has cool people hanging out there on the weekends. Plus, the Electrify America chargers in the parking lot have been free for the last few weeks.
Last weekend, they had a Del Mar in the showroom. I begged them to let me take it for a ride. But, they claimed they didn't have the FOB to fire it up. Yeah, right...
Still seems like a pain in the ass. I'll be happy when the range is increased. Making progress every year.
It's a combination of range, charging speed and charger availability. I think all three will get better over time.
It seems like you're charging the bike more than you're riding it
...because the video is *ABOUT* charging the bike?? He rode ALL DAY (started in the morning and got home after dark) Not that your comment would dissuade anyone from purchasing the bike. 😅
Pretty impressive how Harley engineered such a great bike.... You mentioned how many kWh you used, but I'm interested in how much you paid for all that. Did you keep track of it and how many miles you rode? Thanks for the great video!
Charging the bike at a public charger is a crap shoot. I’ve paid as little as free and as much as $7.00. Some chargers even add a parking fee. When I gas up my Street Fighter, it cost about $18.00 and I ride about the same distance (120 miles).
Charging wont be cool until it's as fast as fueling up cuz I'd feel like an idiot if I was in an emergency and could have been quicker.
Have you tried charging at a tesla charger does it work? Just recently purchased livewire.
It doesn’t work on a Tesla Supercharger. The best thing to do is download the “Plug Share” app. Set the filter to “CCS” and it will show you the chargers in your area that will work.
It’s the Harley I would buy! Just put a deposit on a Del Mar (blue)!
Great video bud. Where did u get your aftermarket mirrors. Please leave a link. Thank u.
They are the stock mirrors turned upside down. The visibility is perfect. You can see everything behind you. You have to adjust them carefully so they don’t hit the tank when you have the handlebars fully locked
@@freedomiseverything thank u for letting me know that. I’ll give it a try. Thank u for the tip as well.
What was your total cost to do that many miles? Thanks
It cost me $15.05 to do the 248 miles in the video. This is because I got burned at an EV-Go charger in Santa Monica. Since this ride, I have gotten ripped-off at other chargers too. There is a charger in Azusa that even tacked on a $2.50 parking fee!
As of March 14, the bike has 4,012 miles on it. The total electricity used is 722 kwh. That's 5.55667 miles per kwh. I always ride in a custom mode with full power, fastest throttle response and full regen. I always ride hard, never shrink from a drag race and usually set the cruise control for 85 mph on the freeway.
I charge at home for $.14 a kwh. There are some level 3 chargers at the Santa Anita Mall nearby that charge for free. Most of the publicly available chargers are about $.40 a kwh. That's 2.5 cents per mile charging at home and 7.2 cents per mile fast charging at a public charger.
As a cost per mile comparison, I have five other bikes in my garage:
Kawasaki Z h2 - 25 mpg
Ducati V4S Streetfigher - 35 mpg
Yamaha MT10 - 39 mpg
Suzuki B-King - 36 mpg
Kawasaki Z125 - 97 mpg
Premium gas at my local Chevron station is $6.37 per gallon today:
Kawasaki Z h2 - 25.5 cents per mile
Ducati V4S Streetfigher - 18.2 cents per gallon
Yamaha MT10 - 16.3 cents per gallon
Suzuki B-King - 17.7 cents per gallon
Kawasaki Z125 - 6.6 cents per gallon
LiveWire One - 2.5 cents per mile charging at home, 7.2 cents per mile at public charger
In most cases, the LiveWire is going to be cheaper than the Z125. Plus, the LiveWire is a lot more fun to ride...
@@freedomiseverything Thank you for the very informative reply. That really helps me on deciding to move from gas to electric. I ride a Honda F6B at the moment. It averages around 40 mpg.
Have u ever used a extension cord to charge your Livewire?
It specifically tells you in the owner‘s manual not to use an extension cord. I have read postings where people have used a cord anyway and had a problem. However, I had to use an extension cord to get around a car in the garage. I went to Home Depot and got some heavy duty cable and two custom plugs and made my own 10 foot long extension cord. I’ve used it about it dozen times. It works perfectly.
@@freedomiseverything thank u for the info.
I inquired about getting one and I got into an accident lost my car and I want to get one just wanted to know if it is true. I heard that Harley Davidson some dealerships were renting the livewire is it true anywhere in the valley Chatsworth or Canoga reseda area if anybody knows a dealership that will rent please let me know thank you.
It’s $159.00 per day:
www.twistedroad.com/bikes/us/ca/eastvale/2020-harley-davidson-livewire/m-79vv759
🤙
Hey 2 years free charge point charging with purchase....
Great stable of bikes. LiveWire is disappointing though. Limited range and slow charge times are going to hurt sales. Traditional motorcycle riders are not going to bite. I’m a Tesla owner too so I get the whole range/charge issue. Level 2 and DC fast charging should be a lot faster on the bike. No more than 10-15 minutes.
That EV Go charger raped you at about $1.00 a kWh. Ridiculous.
As to battery pack size, you’ll see that many Teslas have an 80 kWh pack, but only about 72-75 kWh usable, with the car having a buffer like the Livewire appears to.
No riding vidio?🥺 & cost 2 charge it? My friend is picking up the ORIGINAL HD LIVEWIRE NEXT FRIDAY WITH ALL 3 COLOR TANK & FAIRING COLORS SHOULD B AWESOME 😃👍✌🇺🇸🇺🇸
I need to get a GoPro. I'm new to making videos. The cost to charge the bike has been answered in some of the other comments. Your friend is for a sweet ride...
Spend more time charging than riding the bike
Not with the DC Fast charging on KiveWire ONE:
ua-cam.com/video/qok1OB0rYA4/v-deo.html
FYI take it back
“ride all day”
if you stop every hour to charge for 30….
This would definitely make sense for California people
Why no action videos? No GoPro? Seriously
I'm new to making videos. My wife got me a GoPro a couple of weeks ago. My videos will get better.
@@freedomiseverything I got some valuable info from this. Maybe @crashzeus could kick rocks and show some respect.