Fake Cancer Fraud | Coco Berthmann Case Analysis | What is Pathological Lying?
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
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I met her. She`s actually a Japanese astronaut from France.
Lmao
While she was an astronaut, she was a door gunner on the space shuttle. True story
That’s amazing! I met her too!! We went to Astronaut School together in Turkey. While there we both became Swedish Chefs AND Podiatrists. (People don’t often realize that the two professions go hand-in-hand.)
Wow, what a coincidence! I've met her too, guys! She got dropped off in my yard after aliens abducted her but changed their minds once they discovered her great grandpa invented Earth.
Yeah that's it, that's the ticket 😊
As someone who has beaten cancer - and who has several friends who have died from various cancers - I despise anyone who pretends to have it. This girl is despicable.
Ditto, friend. I’m glad you’re still here ❤️
Right. Smh no class.
I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone, even this disgusting, narcissistic, ignorant low life pos.
Ditto. And when I had it, nobody offered any help. Like nobody. Fortunately in Canada we get free treatment, but I couldn't work and ended up with housing issues. The fakers seem to manage to extract money out of total strangers. You wonder if the strangers also help actual Cancer patients.
Look up Belle Gibson as interviewed by Tara Brown on 60 minutes AUSTRALIA. Your head will explode 💥💥💥.
Agreed!! My daughter has suffered from leukemia 5 times! Can’t imagine why anyone would want to pretend they are suffering from this terrible disease!! I think anyone making these claims should be forced to work on a cancer ward, to see first hand what people actually suffer!!
Faking cancer for money and attention is one of the *lowest things* a person can do, and it's heartbreaking how common it is. You can't fake something you already are!
My niece n law faked cancer for money. She could have went to prison. But my nephew always bails her out. No matter what she does
I can't believe social media influencers, of all people, would do that...
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Trump2024 woo
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Everyone seemingly thinks I am faking cancer . Because I am not dead yet . I have been Stage 4 Melanoma that has spread to my brain and has a life expectancy of a year . I am going on three years , Still push mow grass , still work a few days a week , One of my wife's relatives even set up a GoFundme for me . It amassed $0.00 over a few months . I joke ' I have fake bills , fake wristbands everytime I go to the " Strip Club " . I get fake chemo and fake radiation . I would like to invite them to the Cancer Center to meet my fake oncologist since he is in on it too !! . It's not a nice thing she did . The reason she did it was .. Hey I am a pretty girl and I can get others to feel sorry for me . and send me money . She tried to profit from her looks and had to weave a tapestry of lies behind it to keep it afloat
Being attractive gets one a long way, this is why no one questioned her cancer diagnoses and was so willing to give her money. Had she been fat, old or ugly no one would've cared. Americans are shallow.
she was lying long before that wtih the trafficking and murder stories about her family that some research would of poked holes into it.
I disagree. Gypsy Rose Blanchards mother for example.
I've travelled quite a bit. Shallowness isn't specific to Americans.
@@chrislim7976 Yeah....Mrs.K must not get out much. Kind of a Shallow remark from her.
Not just Americans, people in general.
I've lived with pathological liars basically my whole life. It's crazy, you think you'd never drink the kool-aid, then suddenly YOU are making THEIR kool-aid in seven flavors!
What on earth does that even mean?
@@Simba______ The kool aids a cult reference, so i'm gonna take a guess that they're saying how people may grow up with pathological liars thinking they'd never compulsively lie, but then you end up doing so anyways, and try to convince others to believe your lies (making their kool-aid for them to drink). I had to read the comment like multiple times and i'm still confused, so i probably got it wrong lol
There's truth to that!
I've met a man that claimed they he runner away from Brasil, went through Mexico direction United States, got arrested, and afterwards was deported to Portugal. 😂😂😂😂
Do you mean you start repeating their lies as truth?
The weird thing about knowing a pathological liar is: even when people get suspicious and don't believe them anymore, they carry on with their lies and most people around are too awkward to call them out.
We had one at college and we all felt ashamed by proxy (in German we have this term "fremdschämen"). She created more and more of a mess around her until she felt that she had to leave and start again somewhere else. But I doubt that she stayed anywhere long-term before she messed up again.
It's terrible, because pathological liars create a mess around them and screw up their own lives while it all just doesn't make any sense.
Jussie smollet
I just finished a podcast on Spotify called Conning the Con (highly recommend if you're into true crime and/or podcasts), and your story reminds me of the childhood background stories the podcasters managed to dig up on the conman, Andrew. His schoolmates eventually came up with a code word they'd say to each other whenever they believed Andrew was telling another lie.
I love how Germans seemingly have a word for everything. "Sitzfleisch" is one of my favourites. I guess fremdschämen in English would be called vicarious embarrassment or described as cringing.
“Most people around are too awkward to call them out”
Well that’s one hell of a generalization, isn’t it? I have a pathological liar in my family and you better believe I call her out 100% of the time. Because I do not have time for that BS in my life.
@@christiewright1457 Ah, and you calling them out 100% is more representative to the general public? That is actually just a sample of...well, one person. My experience with a pathological liar was: the whole school at university, it was a small one, but let's say 50 people altogether, staff and students, were in awe about her ongoing tales and felt extremely awkward (some of us did discuss this) but nobody ever openly told her that she was just talking shit. Because nobody wanted to be that rude person. Yeah, you may judge us for not telling her, but I can only speak for myself as to the reasons: I noticed that her lies were ridiculous (for example, her father had a different over-the-top exciting profession each week), but also that she was really stressed to keep up with her lies. She was a deeply disturbed person and I didn't know how to deal with that, so I just ignored her. She didn't harm anybody at that time or tried to get money out of it as far as I know. She just kept on telling unbelievable stories about her life, until she left for another city because she felt at least as much awkward as we did. How you react to someone who's misbehaving may depend on the country you're in (like, English I've witnessed to take a lot of shit without complaining directly) and the social surroundings, whether you have been harmed by a pathological liar and are not completely taken aback with this behaviour because it's new to you. Yes, I dare to claim that the majority of people luckily are not familiar with the behaviour of pathological liars.
As a stage 4 larynx cancer survivor, this is absolutely disgusting. I went through h3ll. I had to have a tracheotomy and then a complete neck resection surgery. I lost my voice forever and almost lost my life twice and I was hospitalized for more than a year. That's the short version, but it was horrible. I had to fight for my life. How dare anyone to lie about having cancer, and then trying to profit off of suffering. Wow. This woman is an absolute scumbag. Thank you so much for the video 🌵🌲🌵🌲🌵
I am a speech path, retired now. I am sorry about your cancer and voice loss. The damage caused from treatment is hard to live with but there are no other options. I hope you stay well.
@@michele21auntiem hi,thank you so much. Yes it truly is. I had a tep placed 4 years ago,so I occasionally see an slp,but for me,I just can't voice, and now I regret having it done.tbh . I had full neck resection, everything was removed and part of my tongue, I had the harvested tissue from my arm to create an esophagus, and skin graft from my thigh. They wanted me to do chemo and radiation, but even with that and surgery they only gave me a 10 percent chance of survival, after much prayer and discussion with my children I chose not to do chemo or radiation. I was also extremely emaciated, I was in hospital for over a year. I thought it would just make things harder on my children. Its been 7 years and I know I'm very blessed,,I had some fantastic surgeons. ❤
@@candiceyoung8244 Oh i am so glad to hear it has been 7 yrs and you havent had recurrence. So sorry about your voice. I hate cancer and what it does to people of all ages. It sounds like you made the best decision! Stay well😊😊😊
@@michele21auntiem thank you so much I appreciate it. Cancer is a terrible thing, it truly is. I've been very blessed. And I had fantastic drs nurses slp s ,as well. And great hospitals,cause I ended up in a few different facilities all in Atlanta. I felt not doing treatments were the best for me and my family, but it was a tough decision. I'm very grateful to still be here, even though I lost my voice. I had a grandson just 2 months before I went into the hospital, hes 7 now,and hes my heart. 🤗❤
Not only that but she would imbed herself in survivors' lives and would make all sorts of recommendations for healing. Wow. Horrific. And so are the organizations that promoted her lies. One of them is The Safehouse Project. That organization seriously needs to be looked at. What she and they did to my recovery is nothing short of inhumane.
I'm an RA for my college dorm and I'm dealing with a compulsive liar like this. It so scary dealing with someone that accuses you of heinous things because they want attention.
Distance yourself and stay strong. Record them lying one day if you can. Don’t confront them, they get violent.
Never be alone with them. If you must speak to him/her privately do it in the corner of a lounge (but keep a witness there out of earshot.) you need someone to at least see you and the student at all times. But, never be alone with them you can tell them why maybe they will move to another floor. Step lightly, Fondue, and good luck.
They can be dangerous.... be careful how you handle this person.
Edziu - An important comment! With all the sexual harassment accusations (some very real, others not), it is so important not to allow any questionable interactions to be in private. Always, ALWAYS! have a witness !
the Don should be present when you have to deal with this person. never deal with this person alone.
Worked personally with a girl who faked cancer, right after her probationary period ended. And I got called the bad one for feeling something suspicious was going on, until lawyers pulled us all into a meeting…
When you start work you have 3 months probabtion, like a trial
What was the meeting about ?
@@rackjeacher that they did an investigation and found out what she did and she was terminated etc ….😵💫
@@reicheru 😳 wow
Always trust your instincts.
I know Coco, she's been to my house several times. She was friends with one of my family members. I remember when she first told my family about her background, I just kept thinking, wow, this girl has been through so much. It didn't cross my mind that she was lying, because why would anyone lie about something like that? The second and third time she came over, though, I started to wonder if she was telling the truth. You know how in a book when the main character goes through back to back to back trauma, so much so that it doesn't feel realistic? That's how it started to feel with her stories. She kept telling us that she was raising money to build facilities for other human trafficking survivors to live in, but then there would be all these complications or forces working against her. She told us about guys she had dated who turned out to be abusive or manipulative or stalkers. She told us she couldn't use her real name because her mother was still trying to find and kill her. She told us about severe chronic health issues she was dealing with due to being trafficked. She also told me all about how she was going to be on America's Got Talent, that she was shooting several music videos, etc. Every time I talked to her there was some new crazy development in her life, either something that would make me completely pity her or think that her life was exciting and enviable. But around that time people started suspecting her, and the last time my family member saw her, she totally ignored them and ghosted the rest of us. I feel sickened by the whole thing. We really considered her a friend and tried to help someone who we thought was a survivor.
The thing is, survivors actually have at times a pattern of abuse because we are programmed to accept abuse as love. So until we heal, we will repeat the patterns of behavior that caused us to get into abuse in the first place. This is why I believed her cancer lies since abuse takes a toll. And the multiple abuses also could have been possible. Unfortunately, everything is a lie and I wasted so much time doing what she recommended for me to truly recover.
I could never respect someone who faked cancer. My step dad was diagnosed a few months ago with a rare form of brain cancer that occurred on his brain stem. The last few months it shrunk to everyone’s surprise and was making an amazing recovery from the brain swelling. Sadly a few days ago we found out he has 7 new brain tumors.
I’ve never understood how devastating cancer really is. It’s hard to believe anyone would fake something this serious, but I guess people will do anything for money.
@Tracy a love loss? He didn't say they were dead...
Medical science is progressing as a respond now. Don’t fall into despair just yet. I’m sure you’re aware of the treatments available to him and what route he’s chosen to take. I know a few people who have triumphed through cancer treatments and won, including my husband 🙏☺️❤️! My Dad however, croaked about six years ago from melanoma cancer. Really though, my opinion is, it was alcoholism because he and my Mother would have been going to regular check ups, where they would have addressed the huge lump in his abdomen if they weren’t completely inebriated 24/7 for the last 15 years of his life.
Had to share😐
My dad recently died from the same thing.The swelling is horrible as they get so confused ... wish you could just take there pain away
Ask for them at give your dads steroids to decrease the swelling
Mom and 2 aunts died from cancer. It’s no joke and ppl who fake it are scum.
She didn’t fake her cancer diagnosis for money, but rather attention.
Just a reminder I’m not making a sandwich, only cutting two pieces of bread, spreading butter on both of them, slicing Cheddar cheese and laying those slices on top of one of them, adding a slice of ham, then shredded lettuce and putting the other piece of bread on top, in a situation like this.
This is nuts! When I was 25, I was crushing hard on this guy who ignored me. So I CONSIDERED telling him that I had leukemia. I have no idea what I thought that would do! I guess I hoped he'd hook up with me once before I died. Fortunately, I decided against the lie. I ended up getting therapy through my 20s, processed my own insecurities and stuff, and I am happy to say I am not crazy! Well, not THAT crazy! Thanks Doc for another great video and analysis!
ah .. and who told you that you were NOT crazy ??
The kind of comment I like so much! Good for you! We are all a bit crazy!😎
☺As long as Hollywood perpetuates that kind of storyline, those kinds of urges will continue to come over its subjects.
In this case, your self-control was stronger than your delusions. Thankfully.
@@rhuephus self awareness and taking responsibility/seeking help is a sign of sanity. This is a cool comment. I’m sure you wouldn’t be willing to admit to some of the things you’ve done/considered in the past. Everyone has skeletons in the closet!
I have leukemia 😉 😘
We're definitely living in an era where lies are the most hotly traded commodity.
We have a compulsive liar in the white house right now. Look at his past wild claims about his education and so much more. He`s a psycho! When I was in a band it was people like him who`d get a shot of whiskey in them and ruin the party. I`m amazed that nobody can look at these types and immediately see what I see. We live in a SICK country. Not because of the land. It`s the low rate people that have taken over society. Better start prepping if you want food, water, and electricity in the future. There`s a culling on the way.
Look up the Fairness Doctrine. Once that was eliminated, there would no longer be any such thing as non-biased news media.
Women lie
@@RowanWarren78 "Fairness Doctrine" was originally just frustrated liberals trying to end the domination of conservative talk radio at the time. It had no fairness in mind. The market decided that liberal talk radio was not viable so the idea was to force it into the platforms built by people like Rush Limbaugh.
@@MakerInMotion oh dear, no.😆 That's just not accurate.
This is disgusting. We have a close family friend who is in the hospital getting a bone marrow transplant right now to hopefully cure him. I don’t understand why people think it’s okay to lie about having cancer. It’s not a joke. We almost lost him a few times.
I don't think Coco understands, that, one has freedom of speech, but, not freedom from its consequences.
Ay! There's the rub!
ha ha .. she's from Germany ...
@@rhuephus ..Umm, ok.....😐
My mom was a pathological liar. She told me when I was a teen my step father cut all his fingers at work put them into his pockets had them reattached yet his hands were fine. She use to beat me saying I didn't take out meat for dinner and she had to make such and such but when we got home that was a lie. She once told me at 13 she went thru my stuff and found a condom. I had never seen a condom so I said where did you put it she said trash I said show me and her face got all confused like she didn't understand. She told me we were German. I grew up telling people that until as an adult I did a dna test and there's zero German so that was a lie to which I inadvertently kept going smh parents who continously lie really mess with their kids
this is absolutely disturbing . are you cool with her still ?
@@PHlophe no I ran away at 16. Tried talking with her when I was 27 but it was the same stuff so for my own self love I walked away from that.
@@ava198 good for you !!!
@@PeanutANDTinyCat don't be pretentious. everybody BUT YOU knew exactly what this woman meant. grow up and stop trying to be the center of attention like her mother was.
@@georgehasleftthebuilding6621 I see telling people how to spell correctly as an act of respect. So they can spell it better next time and not have everyone laugh at them. You obviously prefer to keep lying to the commenter and letting them be a fool. Well we don't.
I could never respect someone who fakes cancer.
Hot take
Eric - Does this mean "Duh"?
@@bthomson sarcastic way of saying it, yes
in 2019 i helped a teenage girl with bone cancer. her mom and i were acquaintances. i drove 2000 miles to be her free photographer in florida. paid for my own traveling expenses. i also drove her and her mom to hospitals multiple times for their appointments. i was like her butler for a 5 months. donated them my time and bought her family presents.
then i was busy dealing with my own depression for a month. the cancer patient and her mom got angry at me, they didn't care about me at all. i literally was having suicidal thoughts but they didn't give a crap. they were angry that i was away for a month. the cancer girl texted me and ended our friendship because she thought that just because she got cancer, that people are supposed to help her, and donate her money. and if people don't, they are horrible.
then 2 months later the girl died, because her cancer came back. what i learned from this experience? i no longer care about people with terminal illness.
@@xploration4u821 I don't think you should let one experience dominate your perspective on an entire group of people, but I could definitely see your point of view given your experience. I hope you worked through everything with yourself!
Quite interesting, I met her when she spoke at BYU to the anti human trafficking club. She fooled a lot of us here in Utah. It infuriates me that she lied about her whole life story, and lied about cancer which a lot of people suffer from.
Moved to Vegas to work as Nanny 😁
When I hear anything about Las Vegas, I always think of the gambling and entertainment part of it, but there are people who live there and just have regular lifestyle like any other place.
Someone where I work used to live there.
@@bluecollarlit I know. I do too!!
My mother is a cancer survivor so I tend to be a bit touchy with things like this.
I just get so infuriated with this kind of behavior and lies.
Cancer, no matter what type it is always a very serious matter and it is such a scary thing to go through, for the person suffering through it as well as their loved ones.
Something I just can't seem to grasp is why some people lie about things like this. Are they THAT desperate for attention, sympathy or money?
I just have a hard time fathoming it all. I kinda get it if they are a pathological liar...but I still don't really understand the need or drive to lie.
I can't lie to save my life, even harmless white lies are hard for me.
i have always wondered why white women regardless of the nation seem to have a thing for cancer. that comedy is crazy
It could be because they lack empathy so they don’t care about the effect it has on others just so long as they get to do what they want.
@@bonnielee316 they lack empathy and much much more
You are so right. Our family doctor of 20years passed away last month, we were all heartbroken .
I’ve followed her for a few years and had no idea. Actually almost started crying when I saw her cancer diagnosis announcement.
I’m APPALLED
Same!!! I even donated money at one of her “let’s surprise a survivor” events 😢
I also almost cried because I was like OMG, what now does she have to cope with.
With pathological lying, I've noticed that some people do it as a reflex even when they don't have to lie, while for others it's self-aggrandizement intended to impress people.
I used to be a pathological liar as a teen. It's so weird because now I never lie at all, probably because it was exhausting and stressful to keep up. I would read stories in books and then talk about them like they happened to me. I made up certain situations to make myself a victim. I had a whole group of friends that was completely made up and each had very distinct personalities and lives, all characters from different stories. I was abandoned by my dad and my mom was extremely emotional and unstable, I was kind of on my own my whole life. I liked the attention my stories would get me because I was lacking it at home. I didn't know why I did it then but now I do. It was soooo stressful I would be so afraid I would get caught in a lie I couldn't sleep at night. I even catfished someone and had to completely ghost them after lile a year of talking because I was lying about everything. It's crazy because now I literally NEVER lie now and have no urge to at all. I think I realized how horrible the emotion of shame was at an early age and decided I wanted to do everything possible to avoid that feeling, which has been a good thing because I'm a genuinely nice person and make pretty good choices. As someone who is very into psychoanalysis now, I'm fascinated with my past self. I believe it was simply trauma related, rather than actually enjoying lying. But when you say it may have been wishful thinking, I relate to that. I wished all the lies I was telling were true, I wished I had those friends and that life
Thank you for your honesty. Very insightful. I wish you all the best. For me, it was when I found Jesus.
Thanks for submitting this comment. Requires courage to be introspective & honest about behaviour that you're not very proud of.
"I used to be a pathological liar"
Then
"I'm a genuinely nice person"
Lol
Is there a such thing as a “used to be a pathological liar”?
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 yeah. I used to feel constant shame so now I try to live in a way I don't feel it cause it sucked. I try to be as nice and honest as I can
My son is a cancer survivor. For anyone to fake cancer makes me sick
My daughter is a cancer survivor. These fakers make me so angry! You know the feeling. 💙
Thank you so much for this video on Coco, Dr. Grande, I suggested her to you, but I am sure I am not the only one. I have been fascinated by her story for a while. Her FB page was filled with "perfect" beautiful pictures of her and she traveled around the country speaking about her "human trafficking past", she even did speaking tours with Elizabeth Smart and gained some notoriety. Any time anyone would question her story~ a person or media, they were criticized for not believing her as a victim/survivor. I think her looks and perhaps singing talent pulled people into her deception. The human trafficking lies lasted for years and I think would've eventually caught up to her, but ultimately it was the cancer lie that was only out for a few weeks and the GoFundMe money from it that led to her inevitable downfall. I appreciate so much your take on this.
Coco is moderately attractive, this physical attractiveness trumps all the lies, this is the brutal truth.
Don't say attractive and trump in the same sentence.😆
Unfortunately I can spot "Coco Bergmans" a mile away. Crazy is not attractive.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim TDS has nothing to do with Dr. Grande's analysis of this woman.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim you’re in the wrong place video sweetheart, Crazytown is 👉 that way.
@@chrislim7976 Sure but she is very easy on the eye.
This is similar to that girl, Belle Gibson, who lied about having cancer.
It scares me because she lived with my family for a few months when I was in high school in Las Vegas as we are members of the LDS church and help those who are members. She used to pick me up from summer school and would talk about her experience as a sex traffic victim (also mentioning her dead sister). It’s starting to scare me because what else was not true that she was telling me?
“Now moving to my analysis. Coco Berthmann seems to have trouble telling the truth!” Ahhhh 😂
Hi Dr. Grande! Could you look into the case of Elizabeth Struhs? She died of neglect because her ultra-Christian family refused to medicate her for diabetes. It’s a sad but interesting case that only happened last month.
@clown from clown town. True Christians do NOT neglect to care for family in any health matters. Perfect example why Christ followers get a bad rap.
Grande's comment about the attorney not having anything better to do than search birth locations of clients cracked me up. He delivers his humor so well.
Faking cancer is terrible. Narcissists stop at nothing unfortunately...good breakdown of why folks lie beyond that. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛
When I was a teen (40 now), I knew a girl who swore she was going to be the opening act for The Backstreet Boys. She also said that she had inherited two casinos from a grandfather she'd never met, but that she decided not to accept them so that she could go to medical school instead. She never went, of course.
🤣🤣🙈Omg..wild fantasies she had
I know someone who faked cancer and went to the lengths of starving themself to appear sick. They gave away a bunch of their belongings to several people claiming they were about to die. Two years later, their story has gotten too difficult to keep up and they’ve burned through all of their family and friends. It’s sad and gross.
Seeing these people exist in the World, I do not know whom to believe anymore. 😔
Use your head and common sense. Nobody with cancer could look that healthy or be that active. But I suggest not funding the "Go Fund Me" because you never know.
@@polarbearsrus6980 You are right. I mostly decide things with my emotions. Thank you for your kindly advice.🤗
I got burned very bad by someone who said they had cancer and didn’t. From then on when I hear someone has “cancer” I wonder if it is the “real cancer”.
The case of the missing Skelton brothers would make for great speculative analysis. Or maybe the 1984 kidnapping of Jody Plauche by Jeffery Doucett? In any case please keep up the great work as always Doc.
I hadn't heard about the Skelton case but after reading your comment I looked it up. I don't understand how they didn't charge him with 3 counts of murder. It's pretty doable without a body these days. Hopefully they charge him before he gets out so he won't ever get out of prison
I skip all the child murder videos and I bet I'm not the only one. I wish creators would stop using other people's dead kids for clicks.
@@cl5470 we’ll you could say that about anyones loved ones that were involved in a crime. If we don’t discuss them and understand why it happened and how it could be prevented then it’s bound to repeat itself.
Agree with both suggestions. Both incredibly sad cases 😢
There are lots of "Coco Berthmans" on this planet.
Good luck everybody.
This is wild. I’ve been following Coco for several years because I’m interested in advocating for sex trafficking victims and I am a member of the LDS church. I started to get suspicious when she started posting about having hospital visits all the time and then claimed to have cancer. I knew something wasn’t right and I felt that she was lying.
Same!
She had me fooled
Now start looking at the things Joseph Smith said and did. It’s the same story
@@bluesfrequency Absolutely. Mormons are so primed for these scams.
So is the child sex trafficking story true or false as well ??
Resurrection level amazing, haha good one Dr.G 😏
I listened to her story on youtube. Exactly like you said, when it seamed somehow unconvincing, I was thinking, well what do I know about this. What if it is true. I even searched about her in German language and expected there will be at least some video in German language. I was listening for German accent, since according to her story, she should have lived majority of her life in Germany. She gave somehow careless impression. And then amid all this abuse fight she started a singing career. Nothing really matches in her story. Interesting that I now got a confirmation about this gut feeling.
My ex was a pathological liar. The strange thing about him was that he mostly volunteered lies about little things that didn't benefit him in any way. Like the color of the car he owned before he met me, or what he had for lunch at work that day. He also lied about having gone to school with the neighbor across the hall from us, even though he knew that he was an acquaintance of mine. He lied about the big things, too, but by omission. At least that made some sense... SMH.
My dad dated a girl just like that!
@@sari9645 I would have payed good money to be able to understand people like that. Why they do what they do. Not even therapists seem to have a good grasp on this particular type of liars.
@@Kari.F. I have noticed that also about no one really having am explanation for it or an understanding of it. I feel that for whatever reason, whenever they start the lies they get addicted to it. Whatever gain or reaction catalysts more lies until it's an unbreakable habit. It's so sad.
Since treating mental disorders is usually dependant on telling the truth, treating pathological lying is difficult! Gently humorous in Dr. Grande's best form!
I have a cat named CoCo.
My cat Hudson says hi and meow!
@@GracieTodd Hudson is a black and white tuxedo kitty.❤️ Hi Todd!
@@GracieTodd lol, yep. 😆
As someone who’s not only met her but also worked closely with her. She’s a classic example of a pathological liar
I actually met her while she lived in Germany. Something about her always bothered me and her story seemed very fantastical! It‘s mind blowing to me that so many people just believed her, interviewed her and gave her a platform to spread her lies.
you met her when she was a baby?
Human and child trafficking is actually very common. Look up child and snuff films that are produced. She just lies.
I was, sadly, raised I'm am evangelical church. A guy in my church fake cancer for money and attention. It was the first key to my religious deconstruction.
In her quest for attention and personal celebrity status, truthfulness, facts and respect for others are not considered. It is not that she made a decision about truth or lying, that issue never comes up in her thinking. The only important thing for her is that people are listening to her. And any success at generating attention for herself does not satisfy, it is like gasoline on the fire of her craving.
Alex - The gasoline imagery is very good! The fear of losing people's attention causes greater efforts to stay at the center of their thoughts! Bigger lies, more fantastic stories, changing elements to keep the focus!
Your humor is growing every day, Dr. Grande. I love it.😂
Dr Grande have you heard about Noah Donohoe from Northern Ireland? A whole wormhole of awfulness. His story deserves so much exposure. He and his mother need justice. Perhaps something you could look at?
If anyone told me they went to CHICAGO for life "SAVING" measures...I would TOTALLY question everything.
Thank you for this. As to your point at the very end Dr. Grande, this was the hardest story Lynn Packer had to make a video for and one I had to write. After he consulted Ed and Elizabeth Smart and I spoke with a few actual trafficking victims, it had to be done. She is a perpetrator, not a victim. The trafficking victims were livid not about her lying, but the media grabbing the most sensationalized story that sounds like it was lifted from the rejected Lifetime movie script pile. Then if course the media wanted more stories "like Coco's and Elizabeth Frazier and Eliza Cuts/Siep/aka Eliza "my daddy ran for governor of Illinois" Morthland. Yep. It's another. We received probably thousands of various threats, accusations and so on, which is why no one wants to come forward. Since the mainstream media finally vetted her story, Chris Hansen took her story down, etc. Now dozens of people have come forward and were truly exploited. Hundreds of hours talking Coco from suicide claims, visions, seizures, etc. This is what these people went through, not donating fifty bucks, but sponsoring her, flying to and from Germany. It was and is a abuse, mental terrorist.
Because their stories are so grandiose and despite these online lunch mobs and the true crime culture of ripping straight from the headline and not the details.
After we exposed her story as hoax, and mind you, she was in the process of using one of our stories to claim she was one of the victim's in our Operation Underground Railroad investigation into multiple sexual assault allegations against operatives. Likely to get a U Visa.
The full extent of her abuse and fraud is just starting to be understood.
Were the threats directly from her?
God Bless Lynn Packer. He's exposed so many liars and so much corruption related to Mormons etc.
Disgusting. My best friends 17 year old Son had Sarcoma Cancer. It was Agonizing for all of us. He died a week after his 19th Birthday. He was in a band, and had released two albums and three videos. This kid lived a Wonderful life. At his funeral his Mom had his guitar on top of his casket. The band Green Day appear and sing one of their famous songs Good Riddance which sounds odd. If you heard the song you would understand. I Despise this young lady with her Fake Story. Cancer is No Joke. My Friend will Never be the same. That was her First Born Son. Good Job, Dr. Grande. 👌👌
Resurrection level amazing!! Hahaha love it! Thank you Dr. Grande, on point as usual!! ♡
Good Evening Doc, I have been watching a lot of that channel “Observe” lately and he is a body language interpreter. I was hoping to get your thoughts on that. He seems to like to group his work in with polygraphs which seems odd to compare your field of study to a pseudoscience. Just would love your take on the study of body language interpretation and if it has any merit at all?
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Yes!
I don't believe Dr. G. ever answers any questions - directly anyway. He MAY acknowledge them by using a case study suggested by someone here in the comments but no answers to any questions. 😥
Shivasgirl he does answer sometimes. 🙂 It's a good idea
Haha! Shiva Girl is Dr. GRANDE!!! NICE!🤣
Celine Dion 😂🤣😅
She’s got some endless imagination. People like her are incredibly convincing and believable. I could’ve been in awe in disbelief, but I believe it as I was up against a person like Berthmann although I didn’t take any actions like Berthmann’s mother’s. I was silently suffering due to traumatic events that followed for many years.
Thank you Dr Grande, the great content you upload daily, never fails to make my day.
Glad your day is good! Always get a heart from the good doctor! 😇💐
@@bthomson Hello my friend, here's some hearts from me too you ❤❤❤❤❤
I think the term "pathological liar" has been part of the American everyday lexicon since I was a kid Lol. Thanks for giving it more definition. Awesome, as always, Doc
My brother is/was a pathological liar, but eventually the lies unravel no matter how convincing,
You have such fascinating content Dr. Grande!
I knew a habitual pathological liar, and it both disturbed and fascinated me.
I was so excited to hear your analysis on this, and it gave me answers to my very intrigued but troubled questions!
Thank you again for sharing your deep knowledge into the human psyche! 💗
A true compliment!
@@bthomson ♡♡
As always, the dry humor is hysterical!
Segundo! Thank you Dr., Good night🌃
Night
Hey! I find your videos incredibly interesting. I wish you would do one of the Va Tech 2007 attack, it's so weird how not many people cover it on UA-cam. Please 😭❤
I don’t see a lot of coverage on any mass school shootings from true crime UA-camrs never even realized till now.
This is likely because these kinds of crimes can be motivated by a desire for fame. A lot of news channels (if they cover it at all), will not include the face of name of the attacker. Giving the shooter their moment in the spotlight is what they want and can motivate other individuals to commit similar offences. Many channels choose not to cover them for this reason.
@@jdsaintly makes sense and is exactly what I figured
I agree but Dr Grande has an analysis on many of the high profile cases. Such as Mandalay Bay, Sandy Hook, Columbine, Parkland, Aurora Colorado. And it would be interesting to hear his thoughts on Va Tech.
@@jdsaintly The method of mass murder is their motivation for fame. The chances of these individuals killing in general is high. The media coverage of Columbine is what changed future media coverage for mass murder. All a potential shooter has to do is watch or read the information on Columbine to gain that desire for that type of murdering fame. VA tech is the first high profile school shooting after Columbine and it is the worst till this day if you exclude tragedies like Mandalay Bay. There has been an incredible decrease in serial killers and a heavy increase in mass murder after the date 1999. These individuals are now choosing different outlets based off the international fear at the time. In the 70s 80s and even some of the 90s, it was serial murder. There are many cases of serial murder and mass murder before the 70s, but media. News outlets. Television and radio created this desirable phenomenon amongst these types of murder. Nevertheless, the desire to kill with some individuals will always remain, the methods of which they carry out their attacks can change and vary depending on what's shocking and creating fear across the world.
Late night posts when I wake up at 2 am! Love it! TY Dr. G
Dear Dr G, great mauve shirt. Its true that healthy scepticism and checking things out is a must nowadays.
Dr. Grande oh, I'm so glad you posted this! I had a old friend that moved down to Florida with me claiming to have brain cancer. It became a complete mess when I found out it was all lies...I have no trust in people after this.
I love your show. I am also a five year out survivor of acute myleoid leukemia. I have obscene words only so I'll abstain from comment. I'm going to go be sick.
I remember her story. Wow. This is so sad for the damage she has caused for real victims.
Alright! I saw my notification and I thought it was you! Thanks Doc! Now I’ve got to listen.
Ok Celine Dion is the first red flag.
OMG just got rid of a path liar my sil ran into. The stories were too big to believe, one I found on the news, one was actually from harry potter!
Sis?
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande! 💙
Great analysis,
Thank you, Dr. Grande.
But how dare anyone challenge the behavior of anyone right now? There's always an ignoramus lying in wait with a bullhorn to call you some sort of "TERRIBLE PERSON" or "______-IST" (fill in what you like, and I don't mean pianist or chemist). So what do many do? Sit in fear-driven silence letting it happen, even if it's dangerous, delusional, unhealthy, or in violation of others' well-being. Great topic, Dr. Guru.
Congrats on 1 Million, Doc! You deserve it!
Always learning something new from ya!!:) having a better understanding makes for better help.. so many people need understanding and help!
Dr Grande I love your other channel Bella Grande Media.. I’ve Suscribed. I just found it last night and it’s absolutely brilliant content. Thanks.
Good Evening, Dr. Grande. So glad to find a new Analysis. Was looking for one yesterday. Was disappointed. Now, I'm ready to dig in. 👌
I’m an oncologist and this is just shocking and offensive. She deserves to be in jail.
I'm a repair engineer for the Soyuz Space Station. Yes its very bad.
@@mustertherohirrim7315 Oh, you made my day, thank you😉
I'm the King of Siam and some idiot told me there is no more Siam! Ha!
Love your username!
Rootin!' FOR PUTIN ? THAT is yr name ???! Talk about shocking and offensive .
Looks like a season of "Inventing Coco Bertmann" will surely be upon us soon.😌
I hope not. These nefarious beings need to stop getting attention they so desperately want.
Fantastically Fantastic extraordinary stories
Great explanation on pathological lying, and wonderful review overall. Thank you Dr. Grande.❤️
I'm currently fighting cancer. There is no cure for my type of cancer but it can be managed and kept under control with maintenance chemo/meds. I'm still trying to get in a better place but I just don't get how someone could fake cancer. I wouldn't wish what I'm going through on anyone. This just makes me so sad and angry 😢😡
I like this vid. Good insight. Great analysis.
I really liked today's presentation because it reminded of when I first began listening to you maybe 1.5 years ago on your description of mental health conditions. I like how you defined the two schools of thought on this behavior/condition. It helped me a great deal to have some insight into someone I know. Thanks again for your brilliant mind and great teaching presentation of a mental health condition.
Brilliant mind✅ great teaching✅
Excellent analysis Dr. Grande 👏 Her lies have been reinforced because they got her what she wanted.
Jesus you inform, slay, and throw such high kew psychological shade… and it’s freaking awesome!
Your calm voice helps me fall asleep at night.
I can't believe the sheer number and variety of quality videos you continually put out Dr. Grande! ❤️ I hope you get some quality time for yourself in there somewhere also, but it's beautiful the channel you've built here! I can't help but be such an avid Admirer, as I'm sure most who are lucky enough to find your channel are! As far as this video- I don't understand how people think these huge outrageous lies won't catch up to them. I agree that she did this more for the attention than the money- her past shows that. I think MANY of us have known a Pathological Liar to some extent, and it's like they get a rush or a "fix" almost from the attention and sympathy they get from a lie where they are a victim of something terrible, and once that has faded they often need to come up with something new, and often something even more horrific that gets even MORE sympathy and attention etc. And on and on until it becomes just too unbelievable and convoluted to maintain. Expert quality Analysis, I always learn something or gain insight from each and every Dr. G video I watch! Maybe it sounds like a lot, but I feel like Dr. G helps SO MANY people, and it's sad there aren't more level headed wonderful people out there like Dr. Grande to listen to!! Thanks again for gifting us with such quality Education and insight! ❤️❤️❤️
Good morning Dr Grande. Hope you had a good weekend
Early! Love watching you Dr. Grande
New subscriber. Thank you. Jill
Did he say she was born in 1993 change her name in 2013 and graduated high school in 2015? Wouldn’t that make her 22 when she graduated high school?
Yes, he did. I was like, "Wait! What?" and had to rewind and do the math. 🤣
she was using the new math taught in schools. 13 x 7 = 28
@@rhuephus lol. 😆
Love your videos
That was so complicated it was painful. I think I saw this lady's GoFundMe on Facebook. And I think I friended her thinking she was someone else. Didn't she also claim she was part of Anonymous? And she said she was living in England for a while, then all of a sudden she was in New York.
Never heard about this one.
Always interesting.
Thank you.
Peace💕🇺🇸
All i know about this lying stuff is it's extremely difficult to live with someone who constantly lies. We used to joke in the family thst whatever my one son said the truth was thr opposite. I looked his name up on Google and he's in a mental facility in a different state. Now he is in my heart and prayers.
Thank you for the video.