Will Jail Help a Victim Narcissist? | Jussie Smollett Sentencing
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2022
- This video answers the question: Can I provide an update case of Jussie Smollet?
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He was okay with people actually being arrested for his hoax. Irredeemable.
And he tried to worsen race relations, which would spread more pain.
He has also outed a man who is from a country where being gay is punished by prison for up to 14 years or, in some provinces, stoning to death. He didn’t have to do that. He could have confessed and kept that info out of a courtroom.
There`s an EPIDEMIC of racist violence in this country....coming EXCLUSIVELY from the DEMOCRAT PARTY! Calling it something else or completely ignoring it doesn`t change reality.
he was probably hoping that cities would burn and be looted on his behalf… now he’s thinking how to further escalate the situation… flogging a dead horse actually, but he and his enabler family and (very few) supporters refuse to accept that the horse has died already…
@@theflyingdutchman_01 YES...omg with that many enablers in that family it is just insane...he has every last one of them thinking he is Jim Jones...sad!
That exact fact....that Jussie was ok with others going to jail for the sake of a hoax... is why a little bit of jail time is warranted. I also agree with Dr. Grande that mental health help should have been part of restitution.
Im glad they caught the guy who did this to him. Imagine how terrifying it would be to know you are still out there victimizing yourself.
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Best comment.... you win the internet!
Have you seen the meme saying, You play the victim so much I am surprised you don't carry your own body chalk"? I think this is a perfect description for JS.
@@LPRNChannel Agreed!
My goodness gracious.alive, I loved what you said, it was perfect. I read it twice, and it was better the second time. I was raised by a devil of a dad, my grandpa was a devil, my mom did nothing, My ex was a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, and he is now trying to steal our kids inheritance. I forgive them for my own self because these devils don't care. And, I stay away from toxic people. Keep up the great comments. God bless you.
What's more sad is that of his family's outrage at the guilty verdict and sentencing. They angrily stated his innocence, even though his guilt is obvious even to them. They only continue to enable him instead of getting him the help he so desperately needs.
I would think his parents would be ashamed of him.
I too am angry at Michael Jackson
Black privilege
His sister had the nerve to shout "Stop locking up our black men!" At his sentencing despite the fact that she watched her brother throw 2 black men under the bus. 😒
The final statement, the equation of how much destruction a narcissist can produce, is brilliant, accurate, and sobering.
"Give props to Jussie for hiring black actors for traditionally white roles"
Not my joke, but I found it hilarious!
If only it were true. Go to NYC and see if it is white people who are “attacking” people on average. Specifically in regards to the Asian community.
Talk about representation and inclusion
But did they do it in "whiteface"?
LOL
I can't believe he doubled down on his claims when the guys were found to be black and he knew them and they knew him!! How on earth is he still saying it was real?? It's gobsmacking it really is.
It's people like Smollett who make a mockery of Dr. Martin Luther King's legacy and of everything that's worth fighting for.
He is such an embarrassment! Eish 😖!
So do BLM and the crime wave hitting NYC; make a mockery of King’s legacy.
It's scary how many of these woke people invoke MLKs namesake despite being living incarnations of everything he fought against. That boondocks episode got it spot on. Probably why they've tried so hard to scrub that episode out of history.
It's dumb actions by a singular individual.
Yup and the two other dudes. No good.
“Lethal level of irony”. Why I watch you Doc. Such a great concise and entertaining channel. Much respect and always look forward to you insightful dry humour.
Jussie NEEDS to be in jail. He NEEDS to be humiliated. He was already given community service. What fricking compassion are we supposed to have on Jussie? He is incapable of developing insight.
That may quell your feelings of anger, but it won't solve anything. Emotion and pragmatism do not mix
@@acooper7675 Here's a little pragmatism. With Jussoe convicted & serving time in jail with a fine to pay, his career & "platform" are gone. He will have to get over himself.
@@gleefulme9617 Wishful thinking. Fueling his persecution complex, the very basis of his victim narcissism, serves only to make that narcissism stronger. If you want to punish someone that's fine, but don't pretend his best interests are your priority.
@@acooper7675 I don't think for one minute this little chump is redeemable. I just want his platform to be permanently dismantled. NOTHING can redeem a dyed in the wool narcissist. He will never develop insight, reflection or empathy. He NEEDS to SUFFER.
Well... he was released after a few days. Pathetic
Watching how he reacted in court tells me he didn’t and probably won’t learn his lesson.
What is truly amazing to me is that his family REALLY believes he is innocent!!
Nice fish you have on that picture. I bet you caught it yourself...
Exactly. He has demonstrated ZERO redeemable qualities.
@@ozymandiasnullifidian5590 Nice comment. I bet you came up with it all by yourself(?).....
@@emmaevans7011 - Maybe he is.
His enablers are as guilty as him. I feel sorry real victims who may not be taken seriously because of his lies. Great content as always. I love this channel. Thank you.
Their virtue has been signaled in support.
This only matters for public image.
They look like they are brave or have acomplish anything by supporting this so called victim.
One persons bad behaviour shouldn’t cause real victims to be dismissed. That really just reflects on the biases of the “justice” system.
I feel sorry for any innocent person who may have been injured in the name of Jessie and justice for him.
@@nightstarstar1 Human nature makes us distrustful of people when we have been burned before by the same action.
The little boy who cried wolf...classic example!
Now I get it. My Narcissist Ex was in a business where he traveled a lot. He developed a 9 year relationship. When she broke it off, he went to visit her husband to confess" everything" and showed photos. Husband ended their marriage and kept the children. My Ex never saw anything wrong with this and justified this by saying "she wanted out of her marriage anyway".
Wow, that's really quite a guy 😳
You are a narcissist who thinks anyone gives a darn about your relationship problems In a video comments that has nothing similar whatsoever to your failed marriage
One of your finest videos Dr.G. I’d hoped you speak about Jussie & agree with you.
As for his fist-raising & repeatedly squealing, “I’m not suicidal!”, in my eyes it proves what a Mega-Narcicist he is.
You, Sir, deserve an award for helping us understand twits like JS! 🏆
“The level of destruction a narcissist is willing to exact on the world is equal to the depth of their shame times the extant of their power.” Dr. Grande and his genius quotes.
I found that to be genius and insightful as well.
I tried to jot it down too. Well said.
Makes no sense
genius quote indeed! eloquent as well...
@@rickrick5041 Yes, it makes no sense... If Dr.Grande wanted to say that the level of destruction that such narcissist is willing to exact is big, he found a weird way of saying that, because the depth of his shame is very small, I wonder if he has any shame, and he has almost no power.
I could go my whole life without hearing about covid or Jussie again. He wanted fame but he got infamy now he needs to shut up and go away. If he was my son I'd be ashamed to claim him. What a spit in the face to actual victims.
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@@scottbeck7762 Lol! Good one!
100% I am so disgusted by him. His hoax is PARTICULARLY HEINOUS as the good Doc said.
This is incredible insight into this person. It’s hard to find empathy. However, I understand your reasonings. Thank you for the enlightenment.
Dr. Grande, the only time I take any time to listen to an analysis of the actions of Jussie Smollett is when you do it! But Dr. Grande, he's baaaaack! Jussie Smollett was released on appeal for other charges, today! Queue the drama!! We shall see how this goes!! Thank you, Dr. Grande!!! 👍🏾
I watched all 40 minutes of the sentencing and it was cathartic to hear the judge finally tell Juicy what he's never heard in his entire life.
Yea, I watched it a couple of times. Very cathartic…😌
It was beautiful! Love that judge
Wonder if Josh Duggar will receive the same type of lecture? He was set up too🤣🤣
@@Dulcimertunes Let's hope so!
That hearing was painful at over 5 hours. I stupidly watched the whole thing thinking ‘they will get to the sentence soon’. By the time they got to the Judge’s comments, I was beyond ready for him to be held accountable
I think jail time is justifiable. Let's consider an alternative timeline where he made this story up, paid conspirators to "attack" him and reported his ordeal to the police, but let's change one thing: he was actually competent in executing the hoax. At the very least, the police would have wasted resources chasing their tails looking for attackers that didn't really exist. At worst, an innocent person or persons could have been charged if they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is entirely plausible the police might have been under pressure to produce suspects given the alleged hate-based nature of the crime and pin it on someone who might have just been in the area coincidentally at the time.
Does anyone believe Smollett would have then come forward, admitted the whole thing was a hoax and took his medicine? No. His level of selfishness and narcissism led him to lie, trivialise serious issues like racism and homophobia which will give ammunition to those who hold those views in the future & he is still acting like he is the victim in all of this. I agree he need serious psychological counseling, maybe he'll get it in prison.
Agreed, let’s also imagine if it was staged in a more believable manner - innocent people being beaten during riots and losing their business due to arson etc. Yes - peaceful but “fire-ie” protests! 🥴🙄🔥
This is a hate crime against straight whites and needs treated as such.
He did waste resources though. Over $100,000 was wasted on this.
@@Metonymy1979 Then they need to make him pay for that for sure.
Jussie would’ve let two innocent white men go to prison for his hoax. He is a horrible person.
This is a SPOT ON analysis, Dr. Grande! Especially when you mention the effects of prison on this type of narcissist not being as effective as proper mental health counseling
Compassion and forgiveness would result in the best outcome for who? Compassion and forgiveness offered to Victim Narcicissts or other Cluster B sufferers will NEVER result in a better outcome for society at large, only a better outcome for that one individual at the perpetual cost to the society in which they live. Boundaries are the only way of dealing with pathological deceivers. We must offer them compassion, but it MUST be accompanied by strong, clear boundaries.
He is being jailed in the same cell as his attacker. Its just not right.
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Fantastic comment 👏 👌 🤣😂😆
It took me a second to realise...🤔....😉😅🤣😂
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Yes, he is.
He tanked his career over this. Typical narcissist to act out and not consider the consequences. I'm sure he never considered the possibility of getting caught in his own lies.
Tanked his career and exited the human race.
He still can't!
Which was totally stupid of him.
Probably worst of all is he’ll always be recognized as that guy that faked a hate crime to try to ask for more money or attention or whatever he wanted. You can get a new job or serve your time and start fresh even though it sucks to lose a livelihood after you fuck up, but there’s never any living this sort of stuff down. He knows everyone recognizes his name every time he does anything in public ever, every time he’s at the DMV or picking up some take out food. everyone will know he is that disgusting person that fakes a hate crime. It will never go away and likely hardly even lessen at all with the notoriety he deservedly got from all this. Even people close to him or his family or etc, they’ll pretend like “oh yeah you totally didn’t do that” while even they know and are embarrassed to be associated with him. Certainly shitty to blow a well paying career and all that but to be a pariah for decades to come for me would be worse. He probably comes from money so it’s just the fame and attention from a tv show he’ll be missing, and the constant embarrassment will be a much worse punishment IMO. Jail will blow too because I’m sure he’s super high maintenance type so.. ain’t gonna be fun. Personally though I think the being always known for a terrible thing is worse, like Brock turner the rapist. Even narcissists know when everyone else is embarrassed by them, even if they don’t find themselves to be disgusting or feel the embarrassment. It hurt their already fragile self esteem so to me that’s a worse punishment for him. Lol not that he doesn’t deserve jail on top, just saying. I’d much rather serve some time in jail as shit as that is than be notorious for faking a hate crime for the rest of my life. Still not as bad as Brock turner the rapist IMO, but pretty fucking disgusting thing to do obviously to fake a hate crime for attention.
Maybe he did, and his backup plan was "stick to the story no matter what and try to make everyone think I'm a victim."
I appreciate the way the judge came up with a sentence tailored specifically for Jussie. There were 4 strong aggravating factors that set this case apart from others and I believe justice was served.
Should sentencing be tailored to what's best for the perpetrator?
@@eadweard. Great question.
"Lossis Dr. Grande" is still one of the most soothing opening lines of any youtube video in existence.
I appreciate Dr. Grande's professional approach to this, but I just can't bring myself to care one single bit for this fool. He brought all of this on himself and has the audacity to double down on his "innocence". Screw this guy.
If he wants to man up and admit his wrongdoing, I will happily endorse his path to redemption. Anything short of that is unacceptable.
I don't know anything about his family, so I really have no business saying anything, but my gut tells me they are enabling him and have been going so his entire life.
Well said!
I agree. If you watch the judge's summation and sentencing, it is apparent he feels like many like you and me. Well worth a viewing.
Yes, everyone should hear the Judge’s speech to Jussie. He was 100% correct!
air to my lungs! preach!
I trust dr. Grande's take on instead of the news
When you look at his family you understand why he’s the way he is.
They're repulsive
In denial
“He is worried about the guards creating a hoax, I thought that was his job not theirs.”
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!
Even after his sentencing, he is still continuing the hoax by pretending that the attack he planned actually happened. I don't think anyone can begin to forgive his behavior-- until he stops doing it.
Acting a fool over a 5 month sentence. I feel bad for his Cellie. If I was stuck in a room with this guy 23-4 hrs a day I might become suicidal.
He is in solitary confinement. He should be put in general population but, I am sure Michelle Obama is helping him out.
Spot on, sir.
Suicidal? More like homicidal. 😆
hes BEEN acting a fooI
What's worse is his family is just as bad. It's no mystery where he learned and inherited these traits from.
Yeah his sister is cut from the same cloth.
@@JaMeshuggah Really? That’s so sad.
I wholeheartedly agree! Supporting a family member through something like this is admirable. Negating or absolving them of their misdeeds is not.
@@karabelle67 Personally if I was a family member, I would just not want to talk about it publicly.
bad gene pool
What an excellent analysis. Perhaps one of your best!! Please don't stop teaching! So thorough; compassionate inquiry, treatment recommendations, their outcome, the necessity to forgive despite acceptance that long term treatment may not result in redemption - that's what we need to tolerate and accept. Ty much for a complex analysis, exceptionally well done. ❤
One of your best, because I'm glad you are once again covering victim narcissists. I've been dealing with one for 20 years. He is now in control of a company of hundreds of employees, you are right the level of control they get the higher the punishment they want to impact on others. The stakes continue to get higher the more power they have. On the inside they are hurt, ashamed and will never ever change. I don't think they can be "rehabilitated". The only way to survive them is to disconnect as much as you can.
The saddest part of this isn't his actions, it's the people wishing this were true
Exactly. Never forget the mainstream media and narcissistic celebrities (Ellen/Elliot Page, Kamala Harris, etc) played into & perpetrated Jussie’s hoax.
A lot of people are just two or three steps away from Jussie's mentality. He's one of their kind.
I believe people were sorry for him wished it was true. There are enough even worse crimes against black people.
@@tatianamendoncastudio yeah right
well said.
Good commentary. Events of the past few days amplify how intractably disturbed this fellow is. His family, supposedly on his behalf, claims he is being forcibly subjected to a psychiatric hospital. In fact, the jailers have an obligation to protect him. So he is in a cell by himself.This is a terrible thing to do to a narcissist! So the jailers are put in an impossible position. Put him in the general population and then be accused of throwing him to the wolves. Keep him by himself and be accused of imposing psychiatric torture upon him. This is what narcissists do.
No matter what happens, the Small-ettes will be unhappy.
Jussie is a Black Jew and his parents were civil rights activists in the East Bay. His mother Janet is Black and his father Joel Smollett who got their kids started in the entertainment industry was Jewish.
The 2 were friendly with Kamala and her husband and their kids were the Black faces behind her in a sea of White people.
Jussie's father had cancer and died on the night the first episode of Empire aired (on January 7, 2015), and he was devastated but he did not take off of work he instead threw himself INTO his work in HONOR of his father's memory..
I don't know whether Jussie is just kvetching a lot or a malignant narcissist? Does he simply have the acumen of a Jew? We live to complain.😜
@@linnpierce Yup always looking for attention and someone else to blame... Samuel L Jackson the same...
Always a victim 🙄
The jail said they weren’t putting him into isolation as they no longer do that. As a ‘celeb’ I would think they do feel pressure to protect him however.From what understand it is normal to undertake a psych evaluation of someone entering the system for a significant period, and his outburst certainly didn’t give the authorities any confidence the guy is ‘ok’. I wonder who in his family is going to manage his not inconsiderate fortune whilst he’s inside? Let’s hope they are more honest than he is!
I love how the judge called him out like it is, an arrogant narcissist! Excellent analysis. I requested this update a few days ago, maybe other people too but thanks again for delivering Dr.Grande!
My mother was a victim narcissist & she, during 75 yrs of life, never took responsibility for anything she did. It was always someone else's fault. Always.
When JS opened his mouth and lied to the court, he sealed his fate. At any time before that, he could've held up his hands and acknowledged his deeds and would've been forgiven, probably could've used his infamy with his celebrity to move forward. His hoax was krafted to incite a race riot had it not been revealed for the malicious play acting it was.
He might have gotten all the attention and sympathy he wanted, too. People would have stuck by him, if he told the truth, and blamed it on his mental illness.
How can you tell when a narcissist is lying?
Their lips move. 😂
He wants to be a victim right? so just give him what he wants, keep feeding him to the wolves till there is nothing left.
Sorry I agree with the sentiment but why did you spell crafted like that
@@djoecav Hollywood is what witches wands are made from, so many in Hollywood use the kraft
I honestly think he really just needs someone to yell cut. I don't think he realizes he's not on set.
This is a horribly sad diagnosis. So many are hurt, and many are unable to find compassion to forgive. It has a huge impact on families and basically predicts a lonely end for the VN. TY, Dr. G. This was educational, insightful and your emphasis on compassion is SPOT ON! Even if it doesn't have an effect, you are not furthering the VN's anxiety. Why injure someone already in such obvious pain? Whew. Thank you;)
"I thought that was his job, not theirs." Lolololol! Good one Doc!
Prisons are chock full of narcissists and sociopaths. And those people are the ones who go back to prison, time and again. They don't learn, and are their own worst enemy.
I agree with most of this; at 40 I’m not sure how he will ever be helped. He needed intervention for this behavior at age 8. It’s clear he was raised around a lot of hatred and anger which gave him some sort of license to carry out this hoax. There has never been any acknowledgement of that. My guess is his parents were very self-involved people who didn’t want to deal with Jussie’s problems, or simply didn’t care. And the arrogance of the siblings today shows that this family has never had to abide by any rules or deal with consequences. I don’t like jail either, but unless he sees that actions come with consequences, we’re still seeing 8-year-old Jussie. He’ll just keep doing things like this. I’ve known people like this before and unfortunately, this is just who they are.
Hatred and anger? I don’t think so. Victimhood, resentment and a persecution complex maybe.
They’re always the victim.
@@bluejava9397 his dad was Jewish and hated white people and would angrily react to being referred to as white. Racist, hateful, self-victimizing, arrogant family
His brothers JoJo, & whatever the oldest one's name is has the same mental issues that Jussie does. Even his sister's are involved in allowing him to be coddled and claim he's innocent and was attacked - STILL. This entire family needs to be canceled and black balled from the entertainment world.
You’re mistaken to blame his parents for this. He is responsible and no one else.
@@bluejava9397 His family hates white people. His mother is a black panther. His whole upbringing he was taught to hate white people. He was literally taught it was okay to use white people as scapegoats for this hoax.
Hate and anger.
The bully narcissist I knew years ago became inappropriately angry, lashed out, blamed others for everything, took no responsibility for anything and never apologized!
I feel for you ?I know one myself.
Sounds like you were looking in the mirror😂😂😂
Appreciate the compassion and insight. However Jussie’s act plays into an existing and dangerous narrative and the risk of re offending is high(the chance of success has been lowered). The fine really is too low given his financial status and the sentence too short. Imagine how long the potential wrongfully convicted “attackers” would have gotten. I fear this sets precedence for yet further special treatment for people with high friends
Out of jail! Knows how to play the system. Very disheartened about our court system
Everything isn't enough. A confession, an apology and a plea for help would go a long way to him getting past this.
I think the only bright side is knowing that his career is over. No studio will want to hire him, and he'll be box-office poison.
As a narcissist he will never do that. He’s probably convinced himself it actually happened. It’s such a waste as he’s a good looking man with opportunities and although I haven’t seen any of his work, I did see that little segment of acting on the end of the Robin Roberts interview: Bravo Jussie, lol.
If he did that maybe he could at some point revive his career.
Jussie can't confess. If he said he is sorry, by law, he is confessing GUILT.
@@Doris1888 personally I always respect anyone who can acknowledge they were wrong and apologise . It’s not easy to do, but I’ve encouraged my kids to remember that you get into far more trouble for telling lies than the thing you are trying to deceive about.
If he's mentally fit enough to become a professional actor, he's fit enough to serve time for his actions, just like anyone else. I guarantee that most people serving time have some form of undiagnosed Narcissism; should they all be treated as well?
What would you say are the common requirements for serving time and being an actor? How are you able to offer guarantees on the mental health of “most inmates”?
I assure you that he's being treated as well or better than the average inmate. County jails are bad. Much worse than state or federal prisons. He is in isolation. A cakewalk...vacation. Put his ass in population and watch what happens. Anything less than 365 for what he did is a joke as well.
Agree. It would be good to have educational and psychological services for inmates, addiction education, GED and vocational training, etc. but most of the US doesn't grow up in ideal settings and mostly manages to function well enough to not be a parasitical drain on others. If Jussie choses to embrace a change in his thinking and behavior, better late than never, but it's his choice. He's a squeaky wheel demanding resources better devoted to more deserving citizens.
Yes!! I’ve heard dozens if not one hundred brilliantly analyzed cases from you, but this call is the closest to restorative justice I’ve heard from you. Absolutely humane, absolutely reasonable. Thank you for your accessible professional insights (and wit!)
I always see COMMON SENSE with Dr. Grande. That’s what I appreciated the most.
Jussie needs to admit his mistake before he can begin any sort of redemption
Wrong is wrong no matter your race. The fact that he has doubled down instead of taking accountability is insane. The fact his family is enabling and continuing with the circus is even worse. They act like if he was sentenced to life without parole. Smh
The fact that he has a history of activism is upsetting. He knows the history and pain, but still decided to orchestrate this hoax around the issue of race. Sick!
They act like he is going to the electric chair! Rather than a few months in jail where he is pampered and protected.
The family is able to enable it because society is enabling this exact thing on a larger scale. Think of the looting and hate and lies the media has allowed in the summer of love.
@@snsmystic they shouldn't. Wrong is wrong.
I think they are afraid of him not having a career. Being considered not guilty could still save him from being banned as an actor.
It’s all about him.
Spot on as usual. I’m watching you become a UA-cam Legend before my eyes Dr. Grande ! 💙
Dr. G, you are a much better person than I will ever be. Smollett is a liar amd I have no compassion for thieves or liars. Let him serve his sentence and fade away.
Very different take than I was expecting. Very compassionate. Not that you aren't usually but hearing how this type of narcissist is best dealt with was interesting. Especially pointing out how the incorrect handling hurts us all. Thank you.
Finally, a comment that seems to have heard him. All the other armchair Psychiatrists missed the compassion part. If someone suffers from a mental health problem that makes them do things that defy a reasonable person's logic, why do we continue to see it as willful?
@@MichelMawon4982 Because one has to be _willing_ to improve. There's a great deal of ego involved with personality disorders which often gets in the way of us improving.
@@Mili-bedili Ego is man/woman's dark side. The ego is what causes all problems in this world. People who have no self awareness and don't know how or simply refuse to regulate their emotions is the main cause of most problems in society. Unfortunately it's a huge percentage of the world's population.
I thought the same! I had already commented and completely blasted Jussie and praised the Judge.....then I heard the rest of the video and was kinda like, wait...huh? I actually took a lot from Dr. Grande's analysis, even though I definitely wasn't expecting it.
Yeah I thought the same thing
The analysis we couldn't wait to hear! You had me laughing up a storm the entire first half, but then you brought it all home with grounded compassion. A lot to think about... Much appreciated, Dr. Grande!
Agreed!!!!!
@@joanneblack7697 I second that!!
I love Dr. Grande’s subtle yet logical shade. You call it as you see it doc!
He was just released (3/16/2022)...
Served 5 days out of 150.
Wow. Disgusting 'Justice' system.
I appreciate the timing I was just about to fold laundry
Dr Grande, making laundry more entertaining and educational since 20XX-whatever year his channel started lol. Someone tell me what year that was and if I see it I’ll edit this lol
@The Wraith good call!
Haha, I watch him too when I fold laundry!
To quote Clint Eastwood, "[Jussie's] a legend in his own mind."
Excellent comment! 👍
You Amaze me Dr. Grande! I never looked at this case the way you analyzed it. Your knowledge is Incredible. 👌
I was so stoked when I saw this video on the feed
I thought the judge was pretty compassionate. He was complimentary towards Jussie’s good deeds and his family. He expressed disappointment in his poor decisions. Think he sentenced him to do the jail time right away to prevent him from jumping in front of a camera and getting on a bunch of talk shows or whatever. There will be plenty of time for him to do that later, but I think the judge wanted him to face his conscience for a while first.
For narcisissm, unfortunately you may have to be slapped in the face metaphorically with your problem. Narcissicts can't come to face their reality willingly.
He needs to serve time for the crimes he committed. He can receive treatment while in prison.
His hoax continues and will continue. His family is facilitating him if not conspiring with him.
He is one sad individual
“Became marginally popular” lmao the shade from Dr Grande is unmatched
Dr Todd Grande your voice is healing people ,very peaceful .
Listening to his family's statement after sentencing, I can see where he gets it from.
A lot of the time, families can definitely enable and encourage this type of behaviour, so I'm not totally surprised.
@@tizzas1232 it was insane to me- how they justified and defended this farce. They definitely enabled him.
A bunch of loons.
I found his family‘s reaction the most shocking because I can believe they can be one lunatic i.e. Jesse Smollett but the fact that there’s a bunch of them turns into a different creature altogether imagine if there was 100 of them or thousand or they made a political party Jesus
This is akin to incitement, this does deserve jail time.
Man you better quit smoking that shit?
This was one of the best analysis yet. Thank you, Dr. Grande. Enjoy the channel.
Great video, Dr Grande! “Loquacious attackers”!! The shade is real 😆 😂 😝 😂 😆!
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I agree with you for the most part. In this case however I feel that punishment is warranted due to the significant harm he has cause to other actual victims of hate crimes if for no other reason than to serve as a deterrent to anyone else who has similar ideas.
I do think that long term treatment should be administered as he will never be able to function ‘normally’ again.
It's a relatively short stint in jail. The man wasted valuable time for investigators, officers, and the courts. Tried to cause further division, and it was indeed a hate crime to me, it's an appropriate punishment. Reason people get jail time is cause people to not want to committ the same crimes again. Now we can talk about how our prison system sucks, but it's designed to be a deterrant.
One of your best recent videos, Dr. Grande! I think all of us practicing more practical empathy would really benefit society. Your counseling insights are super valuable!
Nobody does lol not even narcs . Crazy how people judge one another ..society holds the standards doesn't it ???
I always appreciate how compassionate you are towards people with NPD because it's pretty scary how little sympathy people have for anyone who has it. One of my dear friends of over a decade was recently diagnosed with it and having this channel's perspective helped it feel like a much less damning thing. That said, it's a little harder to feel bad for Jussie, but that's more on him being a celebrity than anything else.
Though he is an adult what he has done is the kind of thing a silly young lad would do as a prank for attention. It seems he had gone so far down the line with it he felt he couldn’t back out. But really if he had just owned up, admitted his big mistake and apologised to those who he should, then he would not be in the place he is in now.
I totally agree. There was a case in Toronto of an 11 yr old girl who reported that on her way to school she had her hijab cut by a man. This guy just happened to have a pair of scissors handy. The school paraded her in front of the media. She got all kinds of tweets from everyone on all levels of government (including the Prime Minister). This happened on a Friday and by the end of that weekend, it was announced that it was a hoax.
I actually felt kind of badly for her and I thought that the school acted unprofessionally by putting her in front of all those cameras. The big difference between her and Jussie is that she is a CHILD. Kids do dumb things because they are kids. They don't have the maturity/development that an adult does. I think people would have easily forgiven Jussie if he had come forward, just like they forgave this little girl. Unfortunately, Jussie just kept doubling down with his lies to the point where he embarrassed himself and everyone around him. I think he got to the point where he believed his own lies in order to get through this.
@@peggypeggy4137 Well I see he has now been released and I think that is right.I am not saying what he has done has not impacted on people. But to get it in perspective he has not killed or physically harmed anyone. There is so much hate directed towards him in many comments. I hope he gets the psychological help that he clearly needs
I understand what you’re saying, but him learning or not learning a lesson, or him understanding or not understanding the error of his ways is only one of the issues here.
A prison sentence should be a deterrent for others like him, some kind of a reality check. He sparked a racial conflict, as if the society didn’t have enough problems already.
His behaviour is a slap in the face of actual victims, it undermines their struggles, it makes future claims of racially motivated attacks potentially less believable, which is not fair and he shouldn’t be forgiven for this and whether he learns or not, he should be punished for his actions.
He’s not a victim here, he’s a perpetrator.
Well said. I once heard a judge say "you can't be the victim of your own crime." I think that applies here
There's been many other people given much harsher sentences than Jussie received for doing far less. He needs the jail time so he can think about what he did and to learn how to apologize. Had he have apologized he would not have went to jail at all.
He also committed crimes against the city of Chicago, and its taxpayers. This is not a victimless crime.
Amen!
Well said. While intense mental health therapy might be a good idea in theory, there are studies that suggest people with severe narcissism don’t respond well to therapy typically, although there can be exceptions. They don’t believe they need therapy. Also, how will a narcissist working with victims of narcissistic abuse for community service establish empathy in the narcissist if narcissists don’t have empathy? No easy answers unfortunately.
This was super enlightening! Thank you very much for such a detailed explanation of this kind of personality issue.
ive SO been waiting for this one.
you are a better person than i...maybe, in a perfect world this would work.
Jail time is more than just a punishment for the offender... It's hopefully a deterrent for others.
If he "came clean" and was honestly repentant, then maybe leniency and mental health support would be suitable, but it doesn't seem warranted here...
Thanks for another great analysis and video, Doc!
150 days IS lenient.
I was thinking the same thing: it’s about more than just potentially rehabilitating the offender himself, it’s also a matter of deterring others from trying to pull such stunts.
“I stuck my fist”.I think that was a Freudian slip.
I thought there was fisting involved also.
This is the most sensible and sane response to the reality of this case. Very well presented. Thank you. 👍
Thank you for emphasizing the need for more grace and mercy. He may not deserve it, but how many of us really do?
I Really Thought the Xtra Touch Of Yelling "I'm NOT SUICIDAL " while exiting the courtroom, As If Anyone Really Cared 🤷♂️
Yes, Dr Grande. The Irony Is Lethal..😆
Nice profile pic! 👌😎👍💯
Forgiveness is one of those tricky terms. Most think it means "free from consequences". I disagree. Consequences always come as a result of actions, it's just natural law. I can forgive a person without giving them permission to continue the abuse. It's a dilemma that many abuse victims face. It's totally possible to forgive a person, have them face their consequences, and not want them in my life.
Yep! Forgiveness is for me, not the abuser. Forgive but you don't forget.
Very well said
Forgiveness is over-rated.
Not others responsibility.
To carry another's absolution.
@@sixthsenseamelia4695 it's not absolution. They'll still bear the consequences. Forgiveness isn't for the perpetrator. It's for the victim to heal & move on. Forgive doesn't mean forget.
@@GenXfrom75 I disagree. Nothing to forgive self for. Carrying the burden of forgiveness, is another weight that did not ask to carry.
You have such great insight and speak so concisely.
Especially in the treatment of a situation like this, you give a perspective I hadn’t seen before on this tropic.
Dr. Grande - This may be your most profound video yet! You clearly see and perfectly state the problems of mental unhealth! These videos MUST be doing a world of good in educating people about this complex and entrenched problem! We owe you a debt!
Hello, my dear friend. Hope everything is going good.
Hi! CT - Always glad to see your nice comments! You are a dear!🐐
“Stuck my fist in the fears” of Blacks and gays. That is a very bizarre statement. Did he misspeak or was that what he really meant to say?
Juicy's alter ego is Victim-Man! 🤣
I've been waiting for this
This was a very good analysis. I can always count on this channel to provide reasoned, empathetic analyses of sensational current events. Dr. Grande you are a light in the current darkness of hate, ignorance, and sensation seeking, which is 99% of media today.
Being punished is part of earning forgiveness and I think for treatment to work he needs to admit he has a problem if he stays defiant and continues his behavior and causes more harm he needs to be held accountable and prevented from causing more damage
I’m okay with real suffering. It’s what he wanted, and he’s unlikely ever to be a “good” person. Let him be a cautionary tale as his contribution to society.
Less than 90 seconds in and the shade is real 🤣🤣. Love this channel and Dr Grande!!!!!
I learn so much! Always the place to go, Thank you.
He'll never change, so why waste time on counseling? As with all narcs, he would learn fake empathy and buzz words. Maybe jail time will make him (and others) think twice about pulling a stunt like that. I don't see any shame, like the victim narcs I know personally...part of the act, IMHO. Good evening Dr. G and ty for cranking these vids out like crazy👌
You're exactly right! Narcs merely learn how to fake empathy and fake remorse.
Doesn't narc mean something else entirely?
The prognosis for treating narcissism is bad, but not impossible. Especially a vulnerable narcissist. I speculate that once you get rid of the beliefs and habits that make them feel inadequate, they'll no longer feel the need to compensate with false grandiosity.
@@SamS-uv2ql yes I’ve never heard someone call a narcissist a narc
@@SamS-uv2ql it's short for narcissist.
Forgiveness isn't the same as saying what a person did is okay. I forgave my abuser. But believe, it's not forgotten. Forgiveness is for me to move forward & heal. Too many people seem to think forgiveness is approval. That's not it at all.
Spot on!
I truly appreciate and enjoy your platform
Thanks for your commentary Dr. Grande
He's now parlayed being a "ViCTiM oF a HaTe cRiMe" into being a "ViCTiM oF tHe sYsTeM", so he's going to ride this out to the v.end.
4:35 .."....I though that was his job, not theirs." Excellent, Dr. Grande! 🌵 Enjoy your night! ☺
Can’t wait for this DR!
I literally couldn't wait for your take on this one!😂