The Issue with LS tractors.. Why to even Choose LS? Is LS junk?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Just me going over some of them big issues with ls tractors. Always feel welcome to comment down below like and subscribe!
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I've had my Massey Ferguson GC1710 for 7 years, not problem with it. The dealer even called me a month before the warranty was up to see if I had any problems, none whatsoever. Hats off to Card Brothers in Chesaning, Mi.
Yes, I wish I went another brand
Makes me want to buy massey!
I have a Massey Ferguson it’s really reliable
I'm in SW Louisiana, my neighbor is a LS Dealer. I just bought my second LS tractor last week. I have 2 or 3 small issues with my 2015 tractor and repaired it myself. The newer dealers have had issues with repair bc of exactly what you are talking about inexperienced mechanics. My Dealer and neighbor is 100% committed to customer satisfaction. I just purchased a 68hp cab tractor. Im really sorry to hear you had this type experience, I truly believe these tractors are great products for the money.
Of course, New Holland and LS small tractors are identical. ...built on the same line in Korea by LS.
Thats not true! That's a sales gimmick from LS. They Source many of their parts from the same suppliers .... they have much different assembly lines and Quality Control process
@@TheRichardOlson …look at the serial number plate on the NH.
Anyway, it is common knowledge. Identical machines.
I have two LS tractors. A xg3025 with backhoe and a 3010 thats 10 years old. the 3025 has needed a $1.00 spring on the backhoe and paid for itself with 200 hrs. The 3010 had emergency light switch go $30.00. Total of $31.00 for both tractors. They are great tractors.
Im soo glad that your ls has been good!
How many hours on each?
I have a New Holland 1530 I purchased new in 1997. At the time of purchase I did not know it was made by Shibura. My local New Holland dealer still has the parts I’ve needed to keep this machine maintained and running. Point being stick with brand names. You may pay a little more up front but as the years progress it nice knowing someone has your back…
LS now makes compact tractors for New Holland. New Holland engineers the loaders and hoes and provides ongoing support for these machines. That support is priceless when you need it.
I'm In California paid alot of money 4 the extended warranty I asked him at least r times your sure this covers the backhoe, bucket, rams everything oh yes sure we'll let me tell you my friend that was a lie backhoe had hiedaalic Leake had to pay 4 the parts and fix it myself, now it won't start any they want to charge me 4 the mechanic to come fix it I asked him about all this oh ya it's covers it all! Get in writing because the dealer straight up lied to my wife and I
Yea, Honestly hes probably doing you a favor.... Their tecs don't really have a high standard or mucg training...
You have a bad dealer. My dealer is great, as is my LS tractor. I bought my XR4145 in 2017 and used it to clear 8 acres of woods. 400 hard hours on it and it’s been nothing short of great.
Yea sadly. But there is only one in my state...
u just had a crappy dealer. ls tractors are fine. all dealers dont want to put your warranty first if you didnt get it from them. its not just LS dealers its many others as well.
i have a ls p7010 which i bought new almost 9 years ago and it has been a great tractor, a couple of minor issues which you will get with any brand you buy. dealer has been great with any questions and all service is done fast and efficient by them. i bought a ls k 5055 1 year ago with 1100 hours on it and it has been even better tractor than i anticipated.
This video made my decision to to not buy from him, thanks!
😂🤣🤣😂Yip, you talked me into spending the extra 6-8k
This is an LS DEALER issue, not a tractor issue in my opinion, I have an LS tractor from a great dealer in Texas, never had one service issue with them at all, my tractor has had the normal maintenance and wear and tear issues, but my dealer was on it every time with great service and pricing.
Yes, i get that 1000%. I love my LS too!
Sadly there is only one in my entire state!
I see all of these discussions but there are just a few critical decisions to make before you buy a compact tractor. Are you going to resell it? If you buy a used off brand, you will pay less. If you plan to keep it forever who cares about resale? If you have to have new and you want the option of selling later buy the green or orange ones. I like used pre emissions stuff with mostly metal. Keep the plastic hoods, fenders, shrouds. Most models will work for what they were designed. I would bet I could break any brand if I just wanted to abuse it. To me a critical concept is that most implements if sized for a machine should give before the core parts of that expensive tractor.
They are junk. We buy and sell used equipment. We have had one for a month now called a dozen dealers and can't get any parts. Half of them tell us they are not part dealers or they will get back to us. Now I know why they bring nothing at the auctions.
The shock had a factory update. Why should a customer have this nonsense. I have been a LS/ LG dealer for 20 years.
We try to have a good repour with our customers. May be you bought from the wrong dealer. We are in North East Connecticut and been there for 45 years. LS has been a good company to work with, and a great product.
I went pricing out some tractors today with my parents after we came back from doing some errands. We have Kubota, Massey Ferguson, Kioti, John Deere, LS, New Holland and Mahindra in my area. The two brands I priced out today were a Massey Ferguson and John Deere. The dealer who sells Massey Ferguson also sells the Kioti tractors so while we were there pricing out a Massey we also mentioned the interest in Kioti but the smallest machine he had in stock was slightly too big for our property. He said we were better off with a Massey as far affordability and features went because even the Kioti went for a bit more.
We also priced out a similar sized John Deere with the same features we wanted on the Massey and it was going for almost $4,000.00 more. Plus the monthly payments on the Deere were also a lot more than the Massey. We have an LS dealer about 30 minutes from my house that I wanted to check out but we didn't have the time to go before they closed. So I'd like to check them out this coming weekend to see how they compare to the price of the Massey with the features I want.
There's also a New Holland dealer right here in town but those tend to be pricey so I'll probably just skip those altogether. My father has a small Kubota BX setup for snow removal and mowing grass as he has my grandfathers larger tractor with a loader already. He likes it a lot but like a lot of people he's not fond of their stupid rocker pedal so I'll be skipping Kubota because of that. Besides that the dealer that sells them is really good, they've been champs dealing with my grandfather and his dementia when he was having "problems" with his Cub Cadet lawn tractor.
Until I go to the LS dealer and get prices plus monthly payments it looks like my main choice is a Massey Ferguson. Everything else either seems to be out of my price range as far as payments go or there's a feature on it that would annoy me to no end (Kubota's stupid rocker pedal). I'd have no problems doing a higher monthly payment if I wasn't already paying a truck like I am now.
As far as your experience goes with your tractor. To me it sounds like even though things broke on it when they shouldn't have your whole problem is that your dealer is total shit. Because they did to you like our Yamaha dealer did to my friend when he was paying for a utv through them. They were happy selling you the machine but the moment something broke on you more than once even with light use they started blaming you for breaking it on purpose. What made it even worse is you also wasted your time to promote the guys dealership without asking for anything in return and he still blamed you for breaking your tractor.
A shit dealer always seems to be the one that instantly blames the customer when something on their machine breaks under warranty and the dealer has to fix it.
Honestly I wish it was just the dealers but it's the entire dealer network and the corporate Structure... Completely left me out high and dry on multiple occasions. The warranty is useless
@@TheRichardOlson Sadly you eventually end up running into stuff like that. But your dealer obviously wasn't of any help. Especially if they were there blaming you right off the bat for any failures you had. I'm mostly just going to see what the price is for reference and not much more.
The Massey Ferguson seems to be the closest thing to what I'm looking for with what I want for a reasonable price.
I've also heard a while back that Mahindra wasn't all that trust worthy either. Since the only "dealer" we have around here that has them is an equipment rental place they're pretty easy to avoid.
If it comes down to it I'll just have to do as my mother suggests and just get the snow blower later down the line so my payments are more reasonable. :)
When I bought my New Holland it was not that much more than a LS when I checked at the time they were pretty much the same price(purchased in 2018). I have had issues with the service department but it is basically one person that is an idiot there and I wont deal with him at all. One reason I went with NH over LS was the LS dealers seem to be other dealers first and not even in tractors most times. My NH dealer is also a Kubota dealer and a Bobcat dealer but they only deal in tractor/construction type equipment. They have been around for 40 plus years and have several locations, again allot of people say when you buy a tractor the dealer is as important as the tractor you pick and your video proves that.
Terrible video, Video Title is click bait...
5% a tractor problem, 95% you complained about your Dealer...
Thats the issue with these tractors
and let me guess, probably no escalation method through the manufacturer right?
@@kevinmckinley3305 I don't know I just gave up sourcing parts from another manufacturer. On my dime
Life lesson. Sorry to hear your about you issues. Your dealer should be dropped by LS. Take this up with LS regional representative, don't bother wasting your time the knucklehead Ed.
They basically don't care... They will leave you high and dry they're pretty used to doing that....
So glad you did this video and with detail. I know the dealer and was there recently looking at tractors. Learning of your experience making a choice is easy. Orange is right down the road. When something breaks its often not at a good time so support is everything. These are relatively simple machines and not that hard to fix so there is no reason to do anything less than a perfect job. That pin he wired up. No excuses, there is a TS just a hop-skip down the road with a good assortment of pins he could have used. With that kind of service I wouldn't even buy a trailer there.
Yea, they not soo great. Kind of the ls standard they don't have good dealership standards
Absolutely love my LS XG3037. Have had some minor issues but my dealer has been great. Works circles around my buddies Kubota of the same size but mainly because mine seems to be a bit heavier.
Just wait
I have an XR3037H that I purchased new 09/2015. I have nearly 1000 hours on it and have had ZERO maintenance issues. I use it mainly with a grapple for tree and brush removal, but also have a regular front loader, rear blade, box blade, brush mower and landscape rake for other jobs.
Soon as you mentioned the part about no torque wrenches in the shop, I thought: "But these are the guys who assemble and prep the tractor!". Should have mentioned that to Ed when he was trying to blame the loose bolts on YOU! Thanks for the vid- I've seen a few used LS's for sale lately, and had no opinion of them as I've never even seen one in person. I like the idea of a cheaper non-luxury tractor (Keep it simple!)...but this does not sound like a good company. I bought a 91 Case-IH 1140 a dozen years ago for five grand...I use it pretty hard on my 27 acres(Including 9 hours of bushhogging at a time with a 5' hog)...it has never let me down or needed any repairs! I feel like I won the lottery now! Buying new and having the issues you've had is unacceptable!
You have to realize that the dealers of LS Tractors actually assemble it. It comes in a crate! So just a heads up for anyone, If you see a disorganized shop and don't trust their service department then there is a good chance your tractor might fall apart. I bought my LS MT225S in Nov 2020 from a Fantastic Dealer and I`ve had zero problems!
Thank you for sharing your experience. With a combination of your videos and Deep South homestead LS experience has changed my mind on our next purchase.
I bought a LS XG3140H to help me with some property in AZ. I never needed the three-point lift for the first 3 years, just the backhoe. About 2 years ago I needed a box blade, so I removed the backhoe attachment. Once attached, the machine couldn't lift the blade! I spent months jiggling the controls, as suggested by my dealer, to no avail. They offered to repair it under warranty, but they're 1800 miles away! I found a closer dealer only 150 miles from here, but they won't work on it because LS will only reimburse the original selling dealer for warranty work! Talk about worthless customer service!
Couple of things Roger, when you disconnected the backhoe did you reconnect the two hydraulic lines on the tractor back together? Also, if the valve that controls the speed that the 3 point hitch goes down is opened all the way the hitch won’t lift. Both of these things got me, live & learn, lol.
Dude, it isn't just tractor dealers. I've had to go round and round with the local dealership over my new truck. You had a great experience compared to the treatment I got from my truck dealership. It was so bad, the manufacturer bought my truck back. Regarding tractors, I have two John Deere dealerships close by. The battery wasn't charging so instead of working on it myself, I decided to let the professionals handle it. I took it in and they said it was putting out 14.4 and said it was a bad battery and offered to replace the battery for $170.00. I had already checked the voltage and put a different battery in. Needless to say, I didn't buy the battery. I bought a service manual and researched the internet. It turned out to be a bad diode for $20. The kid that worked on it was just that, a kid.
Sorry for your experience but really a Auto dealer and a tractor dealer are not the same thing. Pretty much anyone I've ever had a conversation with about having their vehicle service have had multiple issues with dealer service. Whether that's the dealer trying to make more money than just what the vehicle was being serviced for by pointing out something else that looks like it might need to be replaced (which doesn't) or pointing out something with the brakes that looks dangerous (which really isn't). Auto dealers are ALWAYS trying to get more money out of you because they aren't really making any money off you unless they are servicing your vehicle. But tractor dealers a lot of times try to have a good relationship with you and give you good service so they don't leave a bad taste in your mouth so you come back and buy the implements, attachments, accessories ect from them. Auto dealers on some accounts don't care if you come back, tractor dealers do!
Ls is just a low quality tractor. Is thats simple. I almost bought one. Im.glad i didnt.
Facts.
Yep, you got it right with your title.
I have been researching compact and sub-compact tractors for over 2 years now looking for the best value for the money. I’ve carefully looked at all the major brands, comparing reliability, capability, initial price and cost to repair. I also looked at dealer support and parts price/availability. I’m not pressed for time or have and urgent need to buy a tractor (obviously if I’ve spent 2+ years looking), so I’ve been able to research and analyze a lot of data. As to dealer support, it is interesting to note that generally it falls into three categories, good, so-so and bad. And more interesting, to me anyway, a given dealer will fall into all three categories depending more on the perception of the customer and the circumstances which caused the failure. However, I’ve found that LS and RK have the worst overall reputation. Most LS tractors have failures due to poor quality issues. Rk failures are generally on average with most other manufacturers, but the majority of RK stores are not equipped to deal with anything more than minor repairs, thus a bad rep. Parts availability at RK is almost non-existent. Parts at many LS dealers are sketchy more often than not. Luckily compact LS tractors can use many New H parts as they are interchangeable. My research seems to indicate that Kioti and TYM, which are in the mid-price range seem to be the best buy for the $$. Kioti in particular, has a reasonable dealer network and it is growing quite quickly. Another contender is Mahindra, but their dealer network is somewhat weak. Although their tractors are beast, they have quality issues occurring more frequently in their tractor class. As a side note, Bobcat tractors are Kioti tractors painted white. You may have got a good price for your tractor but the old adage, “you get what you pay for” may be quite true when it comes to tractors.
Thanks man for all the feedback
@@TheRichardOlson thats why i like my kubota dealer i get best support from them plus my kubota dealer takes any tractor brands in for repairs no matter what dealer get it from he wants keep customers up with no down times and when my kubota hears other brand dealer dont support there customers he wouldnt be happy wich why the LS dealer here where i am are went out of business wich why kubota dealers in canada has the 5 star rating with good and the best reputaion plus the best with kubotas they usually take $500 to $2,000 off attachments wich is nice plus he gives free hats,jacket and toy tractors for kids free with purches wich is nice
Hey, I can’t thank you enough, you’ve saved me so much time!! Thank you!!
Tym is great, same as rk, just saying.
None of those three are worth the money. In the long run you will pay more for repairs than what you can buy a kubota or deere for.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I bought my LS XR4145HC with the backhoe attachment three years ago. I have 780 trouble free hours. I've accomplished a lot of hard jobs in those hours. I saved over $12K in buying this tractor with no regrets. I had only 2 LS dealers in my area. I chose the one with the best equiped shop and best trained mechanics, just in case I had a major issue. But it's all been good. Long story short, good dealer support and good dealer set up is an absolute must no matter what brand you choose.
Thanks for the intel. I was going to purchase one but they definitely scared me away with your experience.
If you don't have more than one dealer it's kind of a crap shoot
Sounds like Ned and Bruce lack integrity. Not smart to throw away a good customer like yourself
That's why I tell people, no matter what tractor you buy make sure you have a good dealer with a great service dept It looks like you have a dealer issue not a LS Issue. All tractors at one time or another are going to break or you need parts.
Yupp. I just didnt like the blaim game amd not standing behind stuff. The trying to blaim me was bullshit
thats why my kubota dealer here in canada is called Good equipment because it has the best and good reputaion plus he fixes 100% any brands of tractors,forestry equipment, trailers, construction equipment small,med,large, lawn and garden equipment , engines, snowplows and wings on big trucks wich pretty good
You convinced me , I'm going to cancel my LS . I'm not interested in the dealership hassles like you experienced at all
Just wait to you see the next video
have had a 2025 for almost 7 years.. Have had a few issues but dealer took care all of them.. would absolutely buy again
Givers have to know their limitation because takers don't have any
Correct me if I am wrong, but LS tractors are made or LS by TYM tractors.. My question is why is the video backwards? I liked your honesty in making this video, however I do not envy your situation..
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad I paid extra money for my Kubota. Paying an extra $5,000 doesn't amount to much when they give you 0% financing over 84 months.
Two years bumper-to-bumper warranty and I paid for the extended warranty after that to cover the whole seven years. The tractor is a moneymaker for me, I don't have the time to nickel-and-dime.
True, it was 8000 more for the kubota
kubota has the best service and more reliable plus they have best discounts and savings
@@michaelmactavish4445 that's highly opinionated though. Because my brother bought a Kubota L3301 and the dealers service sucked! The service department and technician weren't reliable, they wouldn't return his phone calls for over a week the parts department was slow so to say it was just a headache for him. Now I've shopped around a lot and have been to many dealers. I've never had a problem with my Massey Ferguson dealer and just in my experience I've never talk to anyone who has had a bad experience with Massey. Just my experience though.
@@timtwing5886 kubota dealer here in pei and new brunswick and newfoundland and nova scotia are great dealers i get great service from them
Ls comes with 5 or 6 year standard on power train
Why argue with a mechanic? Seems silly. I appreciate the video, seems the LS is more cheaply made, and it definitely makes it harder to purchase it. You are better off selling it and moving to another brand. Good luck man.
Basically stay away from ls tractor. That's one reason why the big names charge more for the support system. Also resale on ls is garbage. Stick with john deere and kubota or new Holland or Massey. Even bobcat who is made by kioti tractor.
check Hinomoto HM255, a great tractor 2022, with yanmar engine
Thanks for your info-clip which comes in handy for me since I am in the process of getting something
you have purchased and yes, thousands of $'s difference in price may be important too.
The next dealer in my area seems to be Kubota and Case and yes, I guess to start my search with them in order not to have bad luck since we do not have the equipment dealers al over in the desert anyway.
I got about 20' on my new LS snowblower before it stopped working. I found a shaft bearing which is supposed to be sandwiched between 2 mounting plates was missing one of the plates. Bearing came out of the single plate which caused the chain to come off. Apparently it was assembled wrong at the factory. I took some measurements and bought a better / more secure bearing off of Amazon. Had to make some minor mods to it, but that fixed it and was significantly cheaper than an LS bearing assembly.
Just that final prep/ assembly... that sounds like dealer prep issue
I won't be buying an LS tractor, thanks. What a hassle !
Hello,
How does this compare price wise with Kioti or Bobcat tractors? For me Bobcat offers more tractor for buck of all out there but not sure how LS compares to these 2. Thanks!
Spend more money,have less headaches.You get what you pay for.Most long term reputable tractor brands are pretty good to deal with.
Thts a bad experience you had! Thats to bad. I will say I have a great LS dealer (Sumerix Implement) and i make sure to buy all my filters etc. from him too. Best service I could ever expect. Had 2 small warranty issues and they came to my house to fix it!! Its a shame bad dealers ruin an experience for a company.
I’m glad I watched this…dealership customer service is vital! I did look at this dealership, but I’ll now find another place to drop $25,000.00 of my hard earned dollars at!
Sorry but please dont call that junkie thing same as NH.
It is though 🤣🤣
I honestly don’t see how any of this situation really has anything to do with the tractor itself… you had a bad experience with a retailer, one specific person at one specific dealership, this is a personnel issue not an equipment issue… this video is very misleading, because at this point you just plain ol don’t like “Ed”, it’s a personal argument…
Edit: you kinda sound like a whiney Karen here, I will not be subscribing…
Thanks for doing this video. I was considering getting an LS tractor but not anymore after watching your video. Regards.
Good for you, and you've got your facts straight. tough to argue with a kubota or JD or other reputable well established brands, LS is scary, I want one ,but nervous. I love my Kioti, but I've had no issues whatsover. just got to part of NH, I live in southern maine and NH, I just emailed earlier today to the LS dealer in NH, he never responded, I guess I dodged a bullet.
Thats the tractor dealer who I delt with thats the service to expect 🤣🤣 Dodged a bullet bigtime. Check my other tractor videos!
Sorry to hear to about this man, sounds like a bad dealer. I’m a mechanic at a small tractor dealer, LS and Deutz Fahr, and this would never happen where I work. I have personally removed parts from tractors we have in stock to get customers tractors going again many times. I can’t speak for other dealers, but I can say I’ve been pleased at LS’s support. They’re generous with warranty and the parts are a fraction of the price of other manufacturers. We work on mostly John Deere as that is what most of our customers have and you can repair that LS for half the cost of a similar 4000 series John Deere.
I repair myself, and the amount of small stuff wrong is mind boggling...
particulate filter Y N?
Yes, crappy in line one. Like a lawn mowers
This sucks, I can say from experience that the sales guy was not very helpful. Their shop tech was a lot better than the sales guy. Sales just didn’t seem to care or know what he was talking about. Though to be fair; green, orange, white, other... only the actual agriculture dealers actually seemed to know how to be a good dealership. Which kind means that all the others felt like going to a hardware store for a $2,000 garden tractor.
Say, why’d you flip your video? LS was backwards.
Damn I have 700 hours in my GC1715, FEL, belly mower, front snowblower, and 48 inch brush hog. delivered to my door for $15,000. Not one problem with it.
Just got my 3rd ls tractor other 2 great. This one 2021 not so much stinks so bad give u a headache with 14hrs on it. Won’t buy another one ever
What dealership is this?
The only one in NH
Appreciate the conversation. I am in the process of purchasing my first tractor and the research I have put in sounds familiar to how you opened this video. I am researching TYM, Bobcat, New Holland, Rural King, Massey Ferguson, Kubota, Mahinda, John Deere, Kioti, and LS. I am sure I am missing something. LS appears to have a great value on their sub-compact tractors. BUT... And this is a huge BUT... If their service is trash then LS will lose a customer here. I was really thinking about pulling the trigger on a new MT125 until I saw this video. I don't have any hands-on experience with tractors and this is all new to me so service and support are extremely important. Thank you for sharing your experience with your local LS dealer.
Not just here, its nationwide. Very very few good dealers.
@@TheRichardOlson to bad you wernt handy my kubota dealer take it in for trade for a reliable kubota wich he been taking quite a lot of ls tractors because he had to fix the issues on them wich che gave the costumers that had LS tractors he gave them $30,000 for the trade ins wich pretty good amount of money he gave them for the trade ins on them
I bought LS MT125 2 years ago. I had some small issues but my dealer was and has been excellent. They have taken care of everything no charge due to 6 yr warranty. Even bought my wife and I lunch one day because I have a 2hr drive to the dealer. Poor dealers are everywhere with every brand. I would not rate the tractor solely on the dealers actions. I have about 200hrs on my LS with loader and backhole. After some minor issues such as hydraulic leak due to loose fitting, loose lug nuts on left rear and broken joy stick the first 50 hrs I've had no further issues. Dealer Dealer Dealer is the key here. Sorry your dealer gave you such a bad experience. Again mine has been great. Wapakoneta OH has been awesome . They have stood behind what they sell.
I would say you are the exception not the normal.
Wait untill you have some issue or over 300 hours on that machine. They seem to have issues after 200hrs
Thanks for the video was going look at the LS on my way to MB tractor glad I found this video first. I’ll stay with kubota always had good luck with the dealership .
Welcome to the real world and the service industry. I expect this kind of crap but it pisses me off. I have had very few issues with my Kubota in 20 yrs of that helps you any. I am finding out Mahindra is not too different than LS.
Good to know
The dealer is the MOST important part of your purchase, the tractor is second. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT! Buyers get hung up on the price of the tractor and that is secondary. Your painful experience is a lesson for every buyer!
Oh yeah I saved a bunch and I get to tell everyone how horrible it is
Only a moron would work on something while it's under warranty
Great information about the dealer. I wish you had encapsulated the video to say what you did at the end covering your feelings about the tractor in 30 seconds and then said the next 15 minutes will be about the crappy dealer. I'm currently trying to decide if the extra thousands will be worth it to go with Kubota and really having trouble finding anyone giving thorough reviews of LS equipment quality. I do appreciate the detail you gave and sad you found a really shitty dealership.
Never be any RE-BRANDED named equipment
Dude get a Microphone and a camera so you can point out the things on the tractor that are bad it would make for a great video keep up the good work
Ok, you love your new tractor. You saved at least $6000 or more compared to other brands. Is the problem that the tractor is just not staying together for you at which point a guy shrugs his shoulders and thinks “Well, I got what I paid for”. I know in my life I’ve learned that the hard way.
Or, is this simply a case of poor factory and dealer support? I believe you about the dealer being a dirt bag, bad luck there. But what about lack of speedy parts shipping? Availability? Let’s try this: Your dealer is great, tries hard and gets on the job at hand quickly and has mechanics of your knowledge and quality. Would your world be right from a tractor perspective??
Honestly is a super good machine. But even if the smallest thing breaks you're in trouble because you just don't have the dealer support with parts.
The problem is the dealer is not great near me. The dealer will do anything in his power to basically not repair because of lack of know how and lack of support from LS
Is is a good small unit
Thay make all the little units. I'm supized you found so much to talk about. But my wife talks alot about nothing as well.
Completely a dealer issue. If you had to get "super-nasty" and threaten to sue them to get them to do base level servicing, it has nothing to do with the tractor. I purchased a slightly larger unit XR4040H back in 2016, and have well over 400 hours on it, and the ONLY issue that I have is the ignition switch is getting a little "soft". Before I would turn hard clockwise to fire it up, now I have to turn a little more softly and find the spot where it hits. I use it to posthole dig pasture fencing, power a WoodMaxx woodchipper, box scrape landscaping on the farm, and haul firewood, stone, and barn manure with the loader. Literally, 400+ hours, and I have had no issues other than the 'touchy' ignition switch.
But lack of dealers too
I have a 2014 XR3037C it’s now been at Sutton Tractor (local LS dealer) in Tulsa for five months, they are no closer to fixing it or finding out why it will not complete the regen. In my opinion LS is a rip off.
I have contacted LS corporate they opened a ticket three months ago. I have heard zero even after emailing them with the ticket number asking to see what if anything they will do about it.
I am just being held hostage by LS who cannot fix it or get parts, meanwhile I make my monthly payment 😡 worst costumer service I have ever experienced!!!!!
Too common of an issue sadly
I am in the market for a tractor and LS was the main contender until I saw this. After learning from your headaches, I have decided against purchasing a tractor made by LS. Thank you very much
I’m with you. I just lost my Kubota BX 25 in a fire and was looking into LS. Not now I guess I’ll stick with the Orange brand.
i agree totally with your total comments. . home san antonio,tx. dealership closed... i have not tried the new one yet..
xg 3032 purchased 2017 error code ab04 intermittent for 3yrs now
currently temp gauge not reading, rpm 1800 max eng runs for 30 seconds and dies. ign to off position and starts rt up. replaced both fuel filters at 200 hrs currently have 300hrs . going to replace fuel filters as easy test.
any help or comments. tks for your help. and your rt. purchasing a tractor the dealership should be scrutinized for service and parts availability. many tks
Yea no problem.. your story is sadly common...
As I began watching this video, the more and more I thought - Is this guy talking about the LS dealer in my town cause it sure sounds like it. But no I live in Fredericton, New Brunswick. The LS dealer here is the same as you have, main business is selling travel trailers with cheap tractors on the side. I have heard so many horror stories about that place and LS being so cheap, all that warranty sounds great til it comes time fix it. As your finding out, dealer support is everything. I have always paid out the money on JD (My tractors are 115hp and up) when I have an issue I need it addressed today not next month. Caterpillar is a great example, you pay big $$$ for the name, but you will never beat the dealer service and parts network.
Soo true its the sad part about LS
My sister bought an LS tractor about a year ago we use it all the time it’s been great for us and we have had great service with the dealership but maybe we are lucky that the owner is a nice guy bc if we had problems there is not really any other LS dealership near us to go to. We are an hour north of Houston Tx.
Yea hope that relationship doesnt fail eh?
@@TheRichardOlson yeah hopefully it works out it was a gamble buying that tractor bc we had never really heard of that brand but we could not really find a better price they were even significantly cheaper than Mahindra so far we have had no issues but time will only tell.
My dealer Adams in WV sent a mechanic out to fix a seat switch
I stopped watching this video. I went as far as 10:31. He still was just talking about nothing.
Thanks for watching
Biggest problem with ls tractors is the the engine is too powerful for the rest of the tractor and constantly breaks something...can't keep the rear end tight in the frame rails...no torque specs listed anywhere even the in the service manual at the dealership...gotta completely remove and disassemble the rear end just to replace the mid mount pto seal
My New Holland dealer is the one New Holland calls when another dealer goes belly up, and New Holland doesnt want the hassle of getting the inventory back. So he gets a massive discount and buys it all, we got a Boomer 40 with loader bush hog for 25k. It has been a great piece of equipment that we have used well beyond its intended use. It has moved rock, boulders, not gravel, 200 yards to build a 4 foot tall 18 foot wide 150 foot long dam/road. It has done about 4 other similar projects. Clutch and a wheel bearing so far.
Awesome!!
What was the name of the dealer?
Had the issue with WRS Wagner's in Jackson Ohio . Nothing but lies and absolutely no standing by their equipment , paid cash for mine , after less than 50 hours of use ..was dead in the water .. wouldn't move , Wagner's would do nothing ... complete useless individuals & company DO NOT BUY FROM WAGNER'S
Unfortunately this seems to be the case more often than not
You promised to tell us about problems with LS tractors and You failed. You described a problem with all dealers. There’s a reason the #1 piece of advice to new tractor dealers is that you’re buying a dealership as much as you’re buying a tractor. You did the homework to know it was likely to be a bad dealer and you bought it anyway. That tells me everything.
@@MichaelKeating2001 thanks for your opinion
Thanks for the honest review. I live in Oregon, closet dealer is is Sublimity OR(about 30 miles drive)are there any subscribers that live in Oregon and have purchased the MT225S, any thought on the tractor, quality of Oregon dealer customer service etc?
Yes. And had there dealer close out of no where... do not count on dealer support
Bobcat LS koti tractor all look like made same manufacture
This guy should NEVER get a DIME FROM YOU ever again!!
He hasnt🤣🤣
I bought the same model you have about a month ago to do some work around the house. Mine is a 2020 and I certainly understand why you love your little beast. I’m only about 25hrs into operating mine and the only thing I’ve noticed is it will not tilt the bucket back while I’m raising it. Thanks for the videos!
I HOPE they fix it for ya
I don't have one so cannot be sure, but I assume this has a remote joystick for the loader valve. There will be a linkage or cable that connects it to the actual spool valve. My guess is that it is either adjusted incorrectly so that it never really pulls the valve open, or the clevis at the end is broken. I have a TYM and the clevis broke. They are both Korean tractors and probably both have Besko hydraulic parts. You might have the exact same issue I had. The casting for that clevis was defective. They didn't fill the mold properly and the casting was hollow. It looks fine from the outside but was literally like a soda can. Best of luck on the fix.
I saw a video that said you have to have the RPMs over 2000 for that function to work
The worst mistake I ever made was buying a LS Tractor hade a 5 year warranty, but the shop hade it for the five years it borke down every time I tried to use it I was paying for a tractor that I could not use as soon as the warranty ran out I got ride of it lost 9000 dollars
At least it was getting "fixed" lol
Liked and sub'd ---- keep the content coming.
Thanks man
I don't think I will run right out and buy one of those LS tractors. There is more than enough drama in our lives these days without that kind of crap.
Yuup.
I have a MT122. It’s still new with just a little over 200 hrs on it but no issues so far. I’ve used it to build and maintain gravel roads on my 5 acre property and clear brushy areas. It’s been great so far. The dealer I bought it from seems decent and is within about 15 miles but I’ve done my own service so I can’t really comment on that. I saved about $6,000 on an equivalent Kubota.
Well, you do not know if ylur dealer is good then do you?
@@TheRichardOlson you are right I have never used their service that’s why I said I can’t really comment on that. They were pleasant when I bought the tractor and when I’ve bought filters and such to do my own service. It could turn out if I need warranty work they show themselves to be All Dick’d Up.
Hay I am buying one now
Dont! New video coming out again.
I bought a LS tractor I had 10 things went wrong with less than month they picked up and took to the shop and I made them buy it back from me
Good move
I realize it’s apples and oranges, but I have a 1980’s Massey Fergusson. It’s still looks and runs great, also have a 1939 Ford 9N. I doubt the LS Tractors will still be around in 50yrs. Heck yours is struggling in months. I think you’ve been really patient with the dealer and his bargain product.. Thanks for the video
Thanks man. It wont ladt 20 years tjats for SURE
Sorry about your experience that you had; But there are crooks out there.
"That's you, Ed! Hope you're watching." Golden. I like my LS3039, but there is NO dealer support.
Soo true
Keep hearing horrible things about LS tractors, think maybe the dealers are overwhelmed with the poor quality of the LS brand and frustrated with repairs and poor support from LS?
Sadly i think they dont have enough dealers and make enough tractors...
I have a different brand of tractor, the dealer I bought my tractor from is not totally dishonest... more incompetent and with no customer service. Owned the tractor four months and still no operator manual. Two service calls and two months to replace the leaking loader hydraulic connectors. Worst customer service I have ever experienced.
Yea the LS brand just doesn't stand behind there machines...
Where are you located and where is this dealer? I have been thinking of purchasing one and your description was similar to my dealer so now I'm concerned . Let me know, thanks
New hampshire.
In 18 I bought a ls mt350e with the backhoe attachment. It has just over 100 hours and the only had one issue where the dealer sent me the part and I installed it. Paid around 29 out the door.
Thats awesome man! I love when things work well
i have one to it make twobyears now not to much truble