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LS XR3135 Tractor ~~ I Have Been Patient LONG ENOUGH!
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- I have been patient long enough with LS. My XR3135 tractor has had the same issues for a year now. The LS XR3135 tractor has been back to the shop 8 times, headed back the 9th time. Look for the next video in the LS tractor saga soon. SHARE SHARE SHARE This Video, PLEASE!
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Short answer yes it's a lemon. 2nd answer from experience as a tech for over 40 years is they have incompetent techs working on the tractor. There is no excuse for this problem to go on for a year. 3rd answer it is a wiring problem or the ECM itself. Intermittent failures are often ECM related or a bad connection in the wiring harness. Danny you have the patience of Job!! Take care and I hope you get it fixed soon or they replace it..
When life gives you “lemons” make lemonade *pun intended*. I know when my daddy isn’t happy...and this folks is him not happy but I will say that I am proud of the way he is handling it in a very classy manner. I will be praying that LS make this right with whatever decision they decide to make. Love you!!
He has been through enough with this tractor.My Uncle had a car like that.He finally put posterboards with lemons painted on them on the doors and the dealership gave him his money back.I wasn't good advertisement
Thanks sweetheart.
A daughters love for her farther is worth more than any asset so even if the tractors a lemon he's a lucky man
Hope it all gets fixed!!!!!!!!
I also have a XR3135 and like you I really like the tractor and it does everything I need it to when it is running.I had the dealer I bought the tractor from go under shortly after I purchased the tractor. When I needed it worked on by the dealer, I had to go north about 75 miles 1way because the dealer in Petersburg will not work on a tractor they didn't sell. Seems like they should work on any tractor, especially if it is still under warranty because they are supposed to be a legitimate dealer.The second time, I was told it had the same problem. By this time I had owned the tractor about 3 years and out of those 4 years it had been broken at least 1 of those years while trying to find someone to work on it and being in the shop. The dealer in Fredericksburg finally took it in to be worked on, and this time, they kept my tractor for a while and did several things to it like they didn't know what to do to fix it so they were trying everything. I got the tractor back and it ran about a month before dieing yet again. By this time the dealer in Fredericksburg had stopped being a dealer and I would have to take it to another state. I am so frustrated at this point I just put the tractor issue to the side and had to take a break from it. At this point, because of inability to find someone to work on it to figuring out how to get it to them to just sitting at the dealers my warranty was up. A new dealer opened 30 or so miles away from me and I had a tractor that was over 5 years old that had less than 100 hours on it because it wouldn't run long enough to cut the grass. I contacted the dealer and set it up to bring it in to be looked at. After seveal months in the shop I get a call that the wiring harness was bad and so was the injection pump. When someone was testing the wiring harness had messed up the plug for the pump. The tractor also had water and dirt in the fuel which I didn't understand because other than being at the dealer I was the only one to fuel it other than the dealer in Fredericksburg. I bought 2 new 5 gallon diesel cans when I got the tractor because I didnt own anything that ran on diesel. As a matter of fact to this day I have both cans and they are clean inside and out. The crude in the fuel had ruined the pump so since so much time had passed trying to get it fixed it was no longer on warranty. After about a $4000 dollar repair bill which would have been more had the dealer not repaired the wiring harness I got my tractor back. The tractor has run like it was supposed to until last week. The suspect is the turbocharger but I can't take it to be looked at because my dealer is a1man show and is on a well deserved vacation. Bottom line is the Tractor is a good machine that has design issues. Don't let anyone work on your equipment unless you are sure they don't just have the jobbut also has the education to back it up. Having a good reputable dealer is very, very important. Use the tractor as much and hard within reason while it is still under warranty. I could have easily bougt a different color tractor for what I will have in this tractor after this next repair
I'm sorry you are having this trouble Danny. You are doing the right thing by documenting everything and being patient. I'm afraid your getting close to the point of hiring an attorney. Keep on top of this and demand a resolution, don't let this get pushed to the back burner. I bought a L3830HST Kubota in June of 2006, it currently has 750 hrs and has required no repairs, it even has the original battery. I do all the maintenance on it and take care of my equipment and it has taken care of me. Once again, sorry that you and Wanda have to go through this worry and stress. I hope it's resolved soon.
I like old school tractors, don't like computer's on a tractor!!
My tractor mechanic told me the new tractors were terrible!
@Howard Adderly Now I believe it! There's just too many people saying the same thing! The old ones, that are still in decent shape, are getting hard to find as well!
William Wallace bingo
I don't think anyone likes them, but that's what the government says they have to sell.
It's not the emissions and computers - it's the "we need to sell parts and service" mentality manufacturers have now. Back in the day, you made a tractors that would entice a customer to buy another later, because the tractor made its keep, the customer would buy another. Failed obsolesense is the business strategy now, with transmissions made of crap steel or worse,bucket, front end, suspension, you name it - made, or engineered really, to fail early. I remember looking at craigslist for a couple of months and seeing all these cheap tractors, with blown trannies, and realizing it's the current game, and dont buy one, make them change their game, or go out of business.
I’ve already done my research and heard horrible stories about LS, the tractor and terrible service. I passed on the LS and NH. I purchased a Kubota and I appreciate channels like yours for my success!
here in canada not many buys ls any more mostully in canada gone with reliable kubotas and case ih
If you want to invoke the lemon law you better do it soon. There's probably a 1 year limitation.
Lemon law only protects titled vehicles. Tractors dont have titles.
Over 20 tractors on my farm and never heard of a titled tractor.
Cody Johnson this I know is a fact I asked about it when I paid it off
I think I could sit down drink coffee all day and listen to this man tell stories
I've been waiting for this update, so sorry you're having to deal with these issues. I'd say yes it's a lemon, they should taken this tractor back an give you a new one.
I was looking at ls but after watching your videos I went and bought a Kabota. I love my Kabota. As far as I am concerned you saved my bacon.
Thank you
You should not have to pay them anything, it's their problem. They are making more money with it breaking down, STOP PAYING when they take it for repairs and get your money back. You didn't break it, it's a LEMON. Love your channel.
Thanks for the great video as it has made me more confident in my decision to stick with Yanmar and Kubota for my needs. A wise man once told me "Good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good."
Thank you, I'm so glad I found this. I'm in the market to buy and I know I will not buy this tractor. I'm a single girl and I can't have this many problems. I'm sorry you had all this trouble.
after wone maybe 2 times i would have dumped it , you sir have the patience of a saint
Looks like a nice Tractor. Too bad its giving you a lot of problems.I was thinking of buying one, but now your giving me second thoughts on it. Thanks for pointing out the problems!!!!!!!
Lol that thing looks like a botoxed actress
Thanks for knocking LS off the list for possible purchase.
WOW....I was just getting ready to pick one up tomorrow, now it's cancelled. Thanks and best of luck and wishes.
Bought a used pre-def 2014 r3039. With 500 hours on it. Have had it two years, new battery installed recently otherwise no issues in 300 hours.
Bought a 864 bobcat in 2000, 19 yrs later still going strong, it does more than a tractor, and easier.
I am fixing to buy the LS! And the Dealership that I am buying it from said that the one I am buying he liked the best because it has no computer!
Both the MT1 and XJ are mechanical diesels. No electronics! This is only because they are under 25HP. The electronics systems are due to EPA regulations.
first of all well done for your patience,if i was you i would return it back,
Give it back. I am going through different breakdowns with my mahindra. Don't wait to long.
I have a 1948 Ford. I absolutely love it. It starts when nothing else on the farm does.
I have a 44, and love it.
Bought a 1972 David Brown 885 with 7000+ hours, 3 years ago for $2000 and not one single problem with it. Technology is a wonderful thing.
I hope you can get everything fixed.
Best wishes
This falls under the lemon law. 3 repairs in one year is the qualifier for anything with a warranty. That thing is junk or your service center is highly unqualified. Might be a combination of the two. Send it back and get a new one. Good luck buddy.
I did a lot of research before i picked my kubota. Thanks to videos like this i learned about regen ahead of time. Thanks for the heads up. I hate that you had this headache.
I can! Be live your patience. Send it back.
My brother inlaw purchased an LS Tractor roughly 4 years ago. And at the time I was in the market for purchasing a compact tractor myself. Well after witnessing all the different issues he's had. I decided to go with a Mahindra. I have owned the Mahindra 2555
Almost 3 years and still love it. Its been a pretty darn good piece of machinery.
I have not yet watched your subsequent videos, but I will when I have the time. I will tell you that you are infinitely more patient than I. There is nothing more frustrating than having a job to do (with your tractor), and a malfunction continually interrupts your work schedule, particularly when you have done your due diligence in maintenance. If this were an automobile the lemon laws would have required a manufacturer's buyback after they picked it up the third time - and you certainly shouldn't be on the hook for the transportation expense. I look forward to how this plays out, and hopefully the dealer and manufacturer will do right by you.
Give that thing back! You’ve been more than patient with them.
If the tractor is having constant issues then it isn't meeting the most basic need which is a dependable machine.
You just have a lemon. I've had my XR 3135 for a year and half (139 hrs) and I've had ZERO issues.
You have more patience than I. This tractor has been and still is a lemon. If they can fix it fine, they can keep it. Time to look for one that's dependable. Sorry you are being treated this way. As a good customer with proven patience you have been mis-treated. Same on them!
I have been looking at that exact tractor,I very so bad for you and these problems with the tractor!!!
Thanks for these information video's,I will not be buying this brand of tractor now!!!
I'm on a budget have worked hard for my retirement and will not throw it away on a bad product.
I pray your issues will be resolved.
2 words that should never have been frankensteined together computer and tractor!
I hope you get this resolved ASAP!!!! How frustrating!!! I agree you’ve been patient long enough!
Thank you Danny for informing us about this tractor. Sorry y'all are going through this. Maybe if other people would have got the word out about all the problems with these tractors it would have saved y'all a lot of trouble. Just my personal opinion, but all the modern day computers & technology just doesn't mix well with the dust and dirt that you get with farming. I think the older ways & equipment just works better, or at least it's more reliable. We have an old 8N tractor, yes it need a good over haul at the moment. But the older tractors take a beating and keep on going. I could not imagine trying to put up hay with all the dust and grime that comes with it with a computerized piece of equipment. We live in the middle of a 5 mile stretch of gravel road and it reeks havoc with our auto mobiles and they're computers. Paul & I can't wait to see y'all next week.
I have a 4 month old (97 HRS) LS XR4140. No problems yet.....fingers crossed! Its been a great tractor so far....2 neighbors with LS tractors....no issues. I done a lot of research on tractor forums before buying LS.
I remember when you filmed the leaking ! Yes it’s a lemon- you love it , but what good is it if it doesn’t work half the time. ? I think they should have replaced it a while back with a new one!!
We have a 2017 Kubota with no problems whatsoever. He had an older Kubota that was 20 years old that only give a few problems as it got older. Give it back and get a Kubota.
They all have lemons and bad models. My father recently had a kabota that the hydrostatic transmission went out after a few hundred hours. He used other models for years in a landscaping company without major issues.
Im sorry you are having this problem Danny.
If you've got alot of work to be done looks like you can't depend on it. We have a 13 yr old Kabota never had issues.
You are more patient than I would be after that many issues. New tractors ain't cheep in price, but apparently they are cheep in quality. After the 2nd. time I would have said " I'm done" either give me a new tractor or we will have a law suit on our hands. Tractors today have all the bells and whistles but are not user friendly to fix. My tractor may not have all the amenities, but I can at least workout it. I will keep my old Massey Ferguson. Good luck.
About 6 months ago, we bought a Kubota B2650. So far, no problems with it!
Hope you can get your issues resolved or return the tractor. Not much is worse than a tool that won't do the job it was designed and intended for.
That sucks you're having difficulties with your LS. I have one that I purchased new in the fall of '17. It's been a great tractor! I work it fairly hard with no issues. I even have a couple videos doing such. Good luck and I hope they make it right with you!
IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU.. THEN .. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU NEED..BECAUSE YOU NEED ONE THAT WORKS...IT SHOULD BE YELLOW. IF ITS UNDER WARRANTY, TELL THEM YOU WANT A ONE NEW, TO REPLACE IT...I NEVER OWNED A TRACTOR.. BUT IF I HAD ONE LIKE THAT ONE...IT'D BE GOING BACK IN HEARTBEAT...
Gravy... 🤦🏻♀️ I know what I WON’T be buying for my future homestead... Looking forward to this nightmare being over for y’all!!
I bought a Ford Transit custom in 2013 it was an absolute dog, constantly regenerating and lacking power, for 18 months and 30k miles, after some research and frankly kill or cure I started adding 2 stroke oil to the diesel 300mls to 80lts fuel, I've just passed 100k yesterday and had absolutely no issues for 70k miles, no regenerating every few days, more power, smoother and quieter.....I've just started a new project with a Kubota BX2350 and KX 121-2, both have started on their new tonic and run smoother and quieter (obviously no emissions junk on them to worry about).
You've been so patient with that Company. I'd've blown my top way before now and demanded a replacement or a refund! It's been too long now and you'll need small (I know it's a BIG issue) but small claims court in the USA because of your 'Sue-ing' culture probably covers the cost of a Tractor, to get your money back. Thankfully you'll have paperwork to show that despite all they said they did, it didn't fix it & all the downtime those trips ate out of your warranty period. I hate that you're going to need a lawyer to get your money back but I think you will need one. I've been with you through every day since the day you got it, and you were both so excited to have the extra help, bearing in mind this is supposed to do the 'heavy lifting' that you & Wanda will need help with in the next 10 years or so, if it's unreliable since Day 1 you've got NO hope when you're in your 80's. You wouldn't have had this much trouble in a second-Hand 30 year old John Deere or Massey-Ferguson!! Danny get rid!!
Saw these being sold online, was curious, and this is all I'm seeing for real reviews... Won't be going this route for sure
Been looking for a new tractor for the last few week and seen an add for this manufacturer on TV. I have never heard of LS Tractors and the price points seemed great, so I figured I'd hop on UA-cam and find out more. From the sound of things from this video, LS has a lot more work to do to produce a reliable tractor... Thank you for video... I'll keep looking at more established brands
A tractor is not helping you if it is not dependable. You are not a commercial farm, but it is more important the tractor can be counted on. I bought a LS on you recommendation, this was after your first LS, I got the next size up and have had very little trouble, it looked like I had a oil leak then it stopped. My sincere hope is LS will work for us and that they will do the right thing for you. I really vale CustomerService, I would like to be able to trust in customer relations.
The problem is the new Tier emission control system with DPF filter-computer system. I had a Kubota L3301 that after a year of "use" with the same problems you are experiencing, I couldn't stand it any longer and got rid of it. Traded it on a Mahindra 1538 which doesn't use that system---problem solved. I now have a tractor I can use with no problems!
Thanks danny for beaning so truthful about your tractor I'll keep my 50 year old tractor and just keep tipping oil in it which only costs about $200 dollars a year and it do not stop and no computer
Nice of everyone to try and help Wanda and Danny. LS will probably step up at some point and help them in some way with refund or another tractor...which I have to tell you I wouldn't feel good about after all the trouble they've had. But what about the family out there with no youtube channel or way to get lots of folks pleading for them....Sounds like just a poor product for a tractor and sorry company for service. The hard working guy that just needs a tractor is crap out of luck! Encourage others to save their money.....No to LS
Danny I hope y'all get it worked out
You are calm and reasonable beyond any normal expectation. I suggest returning the tractor. If the finance company gives you any grief, use the small claims court then civil court. LS has a good rep. They can give you a new tractor or take back their lemon. Always state the cost of time and loss of labor due to the machine failing to meet minimum operating statements.
They owe your money back. Lemon laws cover tractors too. Ls has a well documented warranty and you should not be charged or pay for anything in repairs or pickup and delivery for at least three years. We service ls and know the warranties.
it might be a lemon, but its such a pretty lemon! Good luck going forward Danny
Can't wait to see future videos 😁
Thank you Danny for the information on the tractor
I've shared this. - and part 2 of your saga - to my FB timeline. Hope it helps.
This customer relation/ product reliability situation certainly requires intervention by the manufacturer to help the dealer make things right for the customer. Period.
It would appear the F002 - P0402 OBD error code is related to something around the EGR control valve , solenoid or like being stuck open or a defective sensor reading . This data should be readable using a dealer diagnostic tool. We don’t know what the dealer technician has discovered using this process so it’s best not to comment. Keep an open mind folks, tier 4 Diesel exhaust emissions didn’t introduce EGR. It has been used on gasoline passenger car engines since the 1970s.
Regarding the regen process, the following video does a good job of explaining the process and the does and don’ts on another brand of tractor. It’s worth viewing. Keep in mind these off road diesel emission limits are established in many countries around the world. Sometime take an opportunity to visually look at air quality in congested traffic areas when there is an air temperature inversion, , you can clearly see the pollution.
Many times I have seen the strangest error code and vehicle ECM issues resolved by the most basic electrical repair on farm machinery. Every electrical ground wire must be clean, bright and tight. Never depend upon a bolt to complete the ground until the paint is cleaned. Electronic sensors work on very low voltages and any unwanted resistance caused by a ground problem will trigger the strangest issues.
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Thank you for sharing your experience.
Wow, you are a far more patient man than I. I'd have had the CEO of LS or it's parent company, on the phone by now and torn him a new one. Make them replace it with a new one and refund all costs you've incurred.
I have the exact same tractor, purchased new a couple months earlier than you bought yours. I have the 12x12 transmission, although that should be irrelevant regarding motor problems. I have about 120hrs in my machine. My unit had regened at 40hrs, 80hrs and I am expecting another Regen anytime now. I have had no mechanical issues. I will note that the taillight wiring seemed to cause a little light flickering. I put dielectric grease on the rear electrical sockets and it seemed to have corrected the issue. I tend to not use the foot throttle. I set the throttle at 14-1600 rpms and change speeds with the transmission. My dealer indicated that running the engine below 1400rpm may cause excessive carbon build up in the exhaust. I also run additives for lubrication and cleaner burning. My motor purrs like a kitten. You guys have got to be the most unlucky tractor people I know. You didn't mention it, but I watched your initial problems with your first ls that was leaking oil. Kubota had some major problems with the Regen technology. My one bit of advice, regardless of tractor color, buy from a good dealer. If they treat you poorly while buying it, don't expect service to be any better. Korean tractors are some of the best in the world. I hope your dealer helps you get your tractor to where it should be.
One thing I learned the hard way that even when dealing with a major manufacturer it is absolutely necessary to document everything and I mean everything! Never walk out of a dealer repair shop without a very detailed invoice of work done. I had a major auto manufacturer tell me that the warranty wouldn't cover a problem because it had only been reported once. The vehicle had actually been in no less than 6 times and I was told each time it was fixed or there wasn't a problem. My vehicle was in the shop for 23 days for a single issue and that was the 3 rd time for that issue.
You are a patient man, Danny. I would have set it on fire by now LOL
Ok- the service techs and manager should have never told you keep running it.. maybe they aren’t trained on final tier 4 engines.. not sure.. but what everyone needs to realize is when it won’t regen it needs to be addressed immediately. Don’t keep running it. I work for a JD dealer and this kind of thing happens to us too. A good service manager will appreciate your patience, a good service tech won’t give up. These problems aren’t easy to solve in some cases. If that are taking care of all this under warranty great! If not well that seems like a big issue.. emissions warranties are usually separate from a tractor basic warranty.. just do your homework on that and find out. I wouldn’t tell anyone to keep or get rid of something they like hell my first couple years of marriage were a pain in the ass but in the end I’m glad she kept me.
Sorry you’re still having troubles. We have my husbands grandpas old Deere. It’s like 30+ years old and outside of basic maintenance and replacing the tires once, we haven’t had any problems. We will keep it as long as possible. Nothin runs like a 🦌
Can't wait to see next vlogs 👍
My tractor mechanic told me if I wanted a good tractor get an older one, rebuild it and it would last a lifetime. He said the newer tractors keep him in business because they spend more time in the shop than in the field (obviously a little exaggeration) but I have pretty much found this to be true. I've got an old Duetz with over 6000 hours on it and it is rock solid reliable.
I've seen every brand give trouble. The final decision is up to you.
I don't mean this in a mean way, but this is why you buy Kubota.You got what you paid for. Ive had my BX25 for almost 10 year s and have had ZERO maintenance issues. It still has the original battery in it too (althoughI am going to replace it this spring)
Thanks this helped my decision on kubota and LS. Buying a new tractor at the end of this month.
I bought a new John Deere 5075 in 2017. Have had zero issues with it. It is the first tractor I have ever owned. I have run about all of them such as Massey, New Holland, Ford, and Kubota. But John Deere really stepped up to the plate and beat everyone else's prices by a large sum. I shied away from Mahindra altogether because of a couple people I personally know have had terrible problems with their tractors. Hope this helps and hope you get your issues resolved. I'll be praying for yall.
I noticed in your video and I thought you might want to know but your Kelly-Jinkson Valve Trigger Lever is dangling off the Taffery & Johnson Linkage. You might want to get that looked at. Also don't forget to check the fluid in your turn signal, especially the left turn signal on this specifice blue model of tractor.
It would have been gone the second time it went back to the dealer at 20,000 plus for the thing there is no way I would deal with that type of issues.
Danny got the same tractor same year and around the same time, as with you it is perfect for what i needed. But i have had nothing but problems from the electrical issues, front wheel seals 4 times, 9 exhausts,seat brackets brake (bad welds)all hydraulic seals leak and now high/low shifter stuck in high. And ls's response well its a poor design and you know things just break. Well my 53 8n has never been in the shop and ls mechanic said they arent building them like that anymore. Dont buy an ls period jd said they would put it in their show room as to why not to buy one
CASE or Ford New Holland. Never heard of that LS brand. I wish you all the luck with getting it right. They play a main part in a lot of farmers / gardeners lives.
LS makes New Hollands in that size.
l bought my ford 4610 tractor 38 years ago, one of the best tractors out there , So Simple to work on l can do most all work myself....BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE OF THOSE DAMN COMPUTERS IN IT.....If some one offered me a brand new tractor ( any brand ) for my tractor... even money...I would not do it.
Danny I’m a Brit and live in France. Your tractor offers as you say all the functions that you need when you’re doing a variety of farm/building jobs. I bought a professionally refurbed MF135 at 7£k could have added a loader and auxiliary hydraulics I guess for 1£k. It’s old school and works fine. I also bought a 2006 Kubota u25-3 excavator cost 10£k seen better days but does what I want. Your tractor when working would do almost all that my 2 machines can do. No doubt a new kubota tractor would be a great buy, but god they are top dollar. So just get tough with LS use the lemon law and quickly. If you get your money back buy a professionally refurbed Massey 135 with attachments. There must be a rebuild business in the states, though shipping from uk would only be about 1k dollars. Or raise the extra cash for the kubota, cos I tell you they are built well. Forget the “itchy fanny tractor factory Guangzhou” until they get it right. And they will in due course, meanwhile trump will increase the tariffs as he should. Kubota have a plant in the US. Good luck Nt
I've posted several video reviews of LS tractors that have been for the most part positive, however, I am not a Tier 4 fan.
It isn't just LS tractors, I've had Kubotas, Massey, New Holland and they all have been pretty much as advertised mechanically.
The Tier 4 is a government mandated waste of money, fuel, and patience for folks who just need their tractors to work. Too many electronics and circuit boards for something that gets muddy, sits outside for extended periods and is made for abuse. While a casual observation, it appears the engineers are still trying to correct issues that should have been resolved before a single tractor was dropped on the boat.
My current tractor is an LS R4047. It is a 2014 and pre emissions. Not a problem in 5 years.
I agree computers are not made for tractors.
Had a ls dealership in my town lasted two year tractors coming back all the time it closed it's doors last year you can get better tractor for your money an service good luck with your problem
Take that Tractor Back Sir!!!
before the warranty runs out. that's what there waiting on if you ask me!!!
cannot believe how patient you are i have kubota lawnmower not a tractor however grass cutting around here requires real tool kubota cut grass in any weather and packs it up like you are going to airport, this is where you find out what you are worth at dealership
Yes give it back
sorry for your trouble....its called a lemon. I went back to a 1994 orange tractor and have had it 8yrs and never had a bit of trouble until this yr.....seems the tires are getting old ..lol i mean hey they are only 25 yrs old
I have a 2014 R3039 with 1000 hours. I had to look up regen...I guess I bought at the right time. Mine has been a pretty good tractor, I am not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination and I have done 50, 300, 600 and 900 hours service!
I can’t even imagine having to put up with that 😳
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I have a larger Kioti that had regeneration troubles, reduced power from a slowly plugging up diesel particulate filter, and limp-home issues (as did the entire industry). The field/fleet solution was and is to install a thermostat that allows the engine to warm up more before opening. As a tech, I knew this and installed a warmer T-stat wherein the tractor started working perfectly. Kioti then voided my warranty.
I had a 2012 3039 that gave me nothing but trouble. It had engine cradle cracking issues and PTO problems. More problems than its worth. I'm back to kabota.
Reminds me of when my mom bought a Craftsman lawn tractor for her business's land. The first two they brought out had transmission issues. They locked up completely after a row or two of mowing about an acre of land. They at first refused her a refund and acted as if she were an idiot. Being an older woman I suppose their bias led them to that mistaken viewpoint. During the third delivery their guy couldn't even get it down the ramp of the pick up truck they had it in. Locked up and my mom hadn't even touched it yet. They finally refunded her and she bought a Deere. I inherited it and it was still running almost 40 years later when I gave it away before moving to a place in the city where I wouldn't be mowing anything for a while. Can't wait to get more land and a compact tractor. Deere getting freaky about letting folks repair their own equipment now has me leaning towards another brand.
Sorry your still having trouble with your tractor! I know that is frustrating. We have a Mahindra and haven’t had any trouble with it.
I thought I might take a look at LS next time due to pricing of others. This probably cures me!
It’s a lemon. It can happen no matter the brand. Case in point. Our first tractor was a Mahindra. It was a workhorse. Never a problem. Had it 13 years and so hubby says maybe we need to get a new one that old red was getting on in years. So we kept red but bought a new Mahindra that had just a bit bigger engine. Compared to the old one it had this break then that break. All under warranty so after the third breakdown hubby told the dealer it just wasn’t holding up so he traded it for another one that they had improved some things on and that ones doing the job.
Mr.Danny.I have a Mahindra Tractor with about 1800 hrs.Its a 4 wheel drive 20 hp with Backhoe, and many 5' implements.Its a 2012,and I've never had any serious problems.I would make them take it back.You've had nothing but problems with that LS since ya'll got it.That what kept us from buying one. We knew people that had them,and they got rid of them.We really wanted Kubota.But we just couldn't fit it in the budget.Good luck brother. But no matter how you like it, it's no good too you if its always down and costing you money.
Glad I got a 1999 Kubota M4500. No regen crap on mine.
i would turn it back in and get an older kabota or even a johndeere ...maybe if you paint it kabota orange or johndeere green it would fix the problem lol
Of course that's Alf's remedy Paint it orange lol❤️