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IS IT WORTH THE SAVINGS 💰💰 TO BUY AN LS TRACTOR?
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2021
- We've got an LS XG3140H compact tractor in, and we thought we'd use this opportunity to talk through the ramifications of buying a tractor from something other than one of the major two brands here in the U.S. We'll also go over the features of this specific tractor and give it a brief test drive.
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LS tractors are excellent even when one forgets about cost comparisons. When you bring cost into the equation, it is a no-brainer. With a farm background and many tractors of all makes, I am on my third LS (moved from an open station compact to a cabbed compact and now a utility). All have been highly reliable and a pleasure to operate. Funny thing was before I bought the cabbed compact, I thought I wanted a 4066. JD dealers hardly paid attention to me at their shops and none followed up with me even though I left my contact info with them. I guess if you are not spending a minimum of $500K, you are just a distraction from real bottom line profit. My LS dealer knocks himself out having been responsive both before and after the sale. Go figure.
JD only cares if you got at least a million to finance.
Thanks for the information.
is the back hoe as smooth to use as a john deere
I've owned my LS tractor for 10 years I've absolutely loved it there is some little things that I don't like about it but overall it's been a great tractor
I've owned an LS tractor for several years now (see my UA-cam channel). I have nothing but positive things to say about it. My dealer has been really great to work with. However, he is closed on Saturdays, so on that one Saturday I needed a small part, I drove the extra hour to the New Holland Dealer to get it. While I was there, I walked the lot, and saw LS Mtron placards on most (not all) their tractors.
About the quality of LS vs Kubota or JD. I used to be a JD mechanic. And like you said, they have their problems too. Most of the smaller John Deeres, including the 3039R, are made by Yanmar. And quality control is an issue. The LS also has many options that come standard vs the JD, things like the draw bar, rear remotes, etc. What you're paying for, with the JD, is the name and dealer support. I'll admit that LS is lacking in dealers, but they are growing and getting better.
Kubota, in my opinion, is one of the best lines out there! My issue that I have with Kubota is that they KNOW they are the best, and they demand a price tag to match.
Thank you for not slamming the LS brand. Many people only show the issues and negativity. LS tractors are solid. If they were not, the New Holland wouldn't put their name on them.
I will do a video to answer yours.
I am an LS dealer in Upstate NY. Parts availability is really good right now. Less than a 10 day turn around. Reliability is excellent. And while there is a difference between the JD and LS, you really need to consider the biggest elephant in the room. MONEY!!!
Some customers will not even look at LS. But if you do, I think you would be surprised.
We are buying one tomorrow!!
You should give me one for free
A nice comparison. I bought a LS XR4155 W/Cab for 35000 with 3 remotes. The comparable JD was 53000. I used the money I saved to by a new grapple, new 72" rototiller, new 78" flail mower, and planter, and still had money left over. Everything works great.
Still enjoying the tractor? I've been juggling a Bobcat or an LS after seeing how much John Deere was compared to competitive models.
I have been budgeted at 32k for a tractor for my ranch. It’s 220 acres so I need about as big of a tractor as possible. I could get a 26hp kubota for 32k or I could get a 42hp ls thats waaay bigger
THAT'S what I needed to read! I went from wanting a skid steer to seeing how these tractors almost do the same for SO much less...use the money saved to buy all the attachments you want! thanks.
Own a XR3135. Manual trans, not hydrostat. The 2 main reasons I purchased which I wish you would have noticed, is the heavy duty steel frame of the loader and especially the mount and how it attaches to the tractor. It is masssive compared to Deere, Mahindra and Kubota. My place is in the Arizona desert and full of rock. This tractor has been absolutly impressive. I have rebuilt the bucket once because my wife and I wore the bottom of the bucket out until it broke off. It now has bolt on cutting edge and 3/8" floor. The other as touched on, is the skid steer quick attach. I also have 2 extra hydraulic circuits which allow a skeleton grapple bucket on the front and still have 2 extra ports on the rear. I do have the better seat with arm rests and weight adjustments. I'm 6 ft and plenty of room, no sore knees from running all day. The only problem we had was learning how to properly do the ReGen. If it is not done correctly, it goes to a flashing warning which needs the dealer to clear. But I'll bet that is common on all this new equipment. Otherwise, I could not see giving $10k more for a Deere or 'Bota. This tractor is heavy duty, the others would have broke in these rocks. Thanks
I own an LS and am happy with it. It’s strong, simple, bullet proof basically and you get more for your money than green or orange
I had JD’s for 20 plus years. It was hard to do but I love the change to LS. I purchased a MT352 cab over and love everything about it. Price was the biggest deal. I purchased it to use not to sale so it was the best decision I have made. 6 year warranty and my dealer backs up and services what he sales. I’m a blue man now!
I've owned my LS XR3037H for almost 8 years and the only thing that I've had to fix is one front Hub Seal. It's been a problem free machine for the most part. Highly recommend.
We have an LS that we've had for about 2 years now and it's been pretty reliable. We only needed only one part so far and it took a couple weeks to get here because we ordered it online. The dealer we have has been around for decades, and started selling LS 10 years ago, so they are also reliable. So far so good!
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
How many hours have you put on your LS? We are debating between LS and kubota.
@@benjaminolsen6520 almost 150
@@benjaminolsen6520 look at Kioti. I was in the same spot comparing. Kioti came out on top then LS then Kubota then JD
@@tarustrader yeah I've been looking at kioti. They seem pretty dang good.
I bought an LS XR4040H in 2016, and have over 425 hours on it. It has run like a champ since day 1. The only parts issue is that the ignition switch is getting 'touchy' - it wants you to turn it just to the right spot, not beyond it - but even that hasn't been a real issue. Simple machine without a lot to go wrong with it and nothing has. Change fluids and filters when needed, and keep right on working. Just depends on whether you want to spend $10K more to pay for another company's marketing and t-shirts, or whether you want to use that money on something better. I ended choosing the LS (came with front end loader, box scraper, 6' rear mower, tires loaded), and also bought a WoodMaxx MX9900 PTO-drive wood chipper, AND an Alum-Line Dual-line Livestock trailer, and the grand total for all three was STILL less than what the green folks wanted for their tractor alone.
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Was originally interested in purchasing a New Holland and discovered thru research that LS manufactured the New Holland under the New Holland brand. I purchased a LS XG3032 4wd with front end loader and backhoe attachment. I have been clearing my land with the aid of Piranha blade attached to the front end loader bucket. Once I had a good understanding of the exhaust system regeneration process, I have found this tractor to be very reliable and productive. The horse power output of the tractor and backhoe attachment has been more than expected. I have also found the parts being very competitive in price. As with any equipment, a regimented maintenance plan is critical to the life of the machine.
I am very satisfied with this brand tractor.
I have a 2011 LS S3010 that I've had for 10 years now. Its been a solid, reliable machine. Very happy with it.
I see a lot of people online saying JD or Kubota is the way to go, that it's worth the extra money. For me, it wasn't a question of spending the extra 10k-15k or not. It was a question of getting a tractor or not. Budgets are not open ended, and getting a green or orange tractor instead of a blue tractor may mean you have to get a smaller machine than what you need, or putting off the attachments that you need.
I have 2 LS tractors , a xg3025 200hrs, had to put spring on backhoe safety lever $1.00. made thousands on its jobs. A 2010 3010 LS . needed emergency light switch $30. Took a week to get. Check hyd. lifting power on the LS compared to Kubota. Thats what shocked me..Great tractors
I used to own an LS XR4046, 46hp 4wd with cab and FEL. Good solid machine, and an absolute dream to brush hog with using a Land Pride 72" rotary cutter. I only had it 2 years before downsizing. 2 years and 200 hours later I was able to sell it for what I had in it.
I sell Mahindra. I watch all your videos to learn about tractors. That was a great comprehensive video on the LS. Awesome!
I believe LS is a quality tractor and is gaining popularity very quickly. They are an established manufacturer. Where I live there are 4 LS dealers, 5 JD dealers, and 3 Kubota dealers within a 80 mile radius of where I live. I have an LS and I have 2 friends that have comparable JD’s and I have to say the LS stands strong right next to JD at thousands of dollars less.
I own a 3046R open station and am perfectly happy with it. I still find that videos about other manufacturers are interesting and informative. That's why I look forward to each one of your videos, you have variety. Thanks for doing such a good job, especially the research into the specs!
I appreciate it! I had a 3046r and loved it.
Just got an LS mt125 recently and love it. One of the things that led to my decision was that I could get it that day and not have to wait months for the Bobcat I was looking into. I only have 2 acres so the small MT125 is all that I need and I am impressed with its capabilities.
Hello there! Seven months later what is your impression of the MT 125? Do you wish you would have gone with the MT 225? What attachments do you use? Did you get the backhoe?
I traded in my JD for an LS about 2yrs ago. I have a dealer about 40mins from me. The service dept is what sold me on it (and that I got a lot more tractor for the price than I would with the other brands). I have never had to wait on a part (although I've only needed a couple) and the service dept is always more than willing to do a lot of research to get me the "weird" add-ons I want (like a float control for a rear remote). I've been much happier with them than what I got from my previous dealer.
I bought an XG3025 new in 2017. Only a couple VERY minor issues, otherwise has been a PHENOMENAL tractor! I've got 510 hours on it now, and it never lets me down. I also take very good care of it too, so that helps.
Thanks for this comparison! We bought a Kioti CK25 around 2010 (we are in Belgium), mechanic gearbox. The tractor proved to be very good at work, both front loader and with rear attachments. But we had several reliability problems : fuel injection pump, synchro reverser, brakes and clutch early worn out... But the biggest problem was with parts availability and vendors. Currently, the tractor is inactive because we weren't able to find a mechanic to do the repair! (I personnaly run JDs 😉).
When I decided to buy a sub compact for work around my orchard, I shopped, compared everything and talked to everyone I could who owned a sub. With the setup I wanted… loader …60” mm mower… pallet forks and box blade, it was not even close. $ for $ Massey was the choice for me. I have a Gator and a JD mower but couldn’t justify the the extra 5k a 1025 would have cost vs a 1725. To each their own but dollars matter.
Good to see you cover more colors other than green & orange. Back in May purchased a brand new 2021 LS MT125 from a dealer 17 miles from were I work and 31 miles from my home. It came with the FEL and a pinned on bucket but the bucket was setup for the LS small QA assembly. I ordered the QA assembly, 3rd function remote hydraulic diverter kit, and brush grapple. Along with that I ordered the backhoe and bought a trailer for it all. Understanding that shipping on stuff coming out of South Korea is taking longer than usual, it took 6 months to finally get everything delivered to and installed by my dealer. It's been a great little machine and now has 112 hours on it. Overall I'm happy with my decision to go blue and for the money I spent I feel I got more than if I had gone green or orange. I put 3.5" BORA spacers on the rears before I ever did anything with it as well as put hard foam rubber in all 4 tires. I didn't go through my dealer for those but I have zero regrets on spending that money on top of what I spent to buy the tractor and all the accessories. Keep making quality videos in red, green, orange, or (my favorite) blue.
Hello there! I am also looking at the MT 125. I found it interesting that LS doesn’t recommend wheel weights and potentially going to void warranty. Did the Bora spacers work out for you? Did you get the mid mount belly mower?
I bought a Kubota this past spring. I looked at John Deere, LS, Mahindra, well pretty much all of them. A friend has an LS I've used a few times. Great tractor. I would've bought one. I just couldn't get past the dealer. Couldn't stand the guys at all. I'm on a 5 acre hobby farm. Most of the tractor dealers around won't talk to you unless you own 1000 acres. That was the most important part for me. It doesn't matter who you are, if you're willing to spend money with me I will take the time to help you. I will buy stuff from Good Works Tractors if for no other reason than I like the guy...
I love these comparisons with the big 2 tractor companies. I ended up going with the kioti ck3510se and it has been a great tractor and done everything I've ask of it. Compared my tractor in specs and size to the john deere of equal specs and size and the cost difference brand new was pushing $18000 more for john deere. I'm so glad I went with kioti and saved all that money.
I'm in the same boat. Just picked up my Kioti CK3510SE a few weeks ago and love it. Better price point than the JD and no treadle pedal on Kubota. Absolutely love it.
You mean 1800 right? Green is expensive but 18k is a hell of difference
I also bought a kioti 35/10 se hst. It’s very well built and has the best specs
@@anthonysmith4222 no it was 18 thousand difference but that was with all my attachments and third function added. I should have specified that with everything I purchased not just the tractor alone. But there was a 10 grand difference just in the tractor. I'm located in north west Ohio so I know prices vary from state and specific locations in the same states.
@@lonewolfFirearms ah understand. My 3038e with 6ft finish mower and loader was about 21k brand new.
Bought an 125 LS this last summer with the backhoe attachment it's a great little beast..
I just picked up a 48hp TYM for a hair over $25k new and am pleased with it so far. As you were doing the walk around it basically was all the same but with a better seat, a rear 3pt control lever at the back, and a third remote control button on the hydraulic joystick. Great video!
I bought the TYM T474 also and absolutely love it. The prices was right and it’s a beautiful well built tractor I believe. The green one was $12000 more, starting price, with less comfort and options.
I grew up farming on Ford tractors in the 70's and 80's, 3 years ago I decided to purchase a compact tractor to hire out and do brush hog and tiller work and decided on a Mahindra 1533 after much shopping around, and have not been disappointed yet! That thing is a workhorse! I am using a 6 ft medium/heavy duty cutter behind it, and have cleared properties that the owners never thought I would with it when it showed up on the job site, for a 35 HP tractor that thing is impressive!
Mahindras are sourced together from many manufacturers, I just could not ignore that.
Mahindra dealer & parts support is about the worst. As long as it’s a hobby farm and you don’t need spare parts quickly you’ll be ok.
Your right Sr because of the sign of the times , it really doesn't matter what tractor the public buys it ,will out last them.
I bought an LS MT225, which is a 25 HP hydrostatic tractor, not the smallest one, but the next size up. I bought it about a year ago in 2021. My buddy bought another brand on the same day so we did a lot of compairing. I'll give the good and the bad. The LS came with quite a few more features that I liked. Here are some of the good.
1) three speed hydrostatics, his only had two.
2) quick connect on the front bucket. Neither of us have other attachments yet, but I have a lot more choices
3) I have cruise control, his was an optional added feature. I haven't used it much, but its nice when you want it
Now for the bad.
1) I had a problem with my rear PTO within the first 20 hours where it would pop out of gear. Long story short out of the first 7 months I owned my tractor they had it for 4 months. The consistant reason from the dealer was waiting for parts. LS is gaining popularity, but is still a relatively small brand. Where I live there aren't any other options for LS dealers within 3-4 hours drive so I'm stuck with the one small dealer and parts that aren't coming fast. When I call the dealer they tell me to bring it in. My buddy who bought the other brand from a larger dealer had something break when I was at his house and they offered to send someone to his home. The difference in quality of service from small dealers to large dealers is definately something to consider, and the wait time on parts for a smaller manufacturer can be gauling.
Long story short I like the LS and think it is a good tractor set up very comfortably with a lot of small things which come standard that make it easy to use. Parts and dealer choice in your area are the only down sides.
Hello there what is your current impression of the MT225? I’m going back-and-forth between the 125 and the 225..
@@activeWV I would get the bigger one. Most of the people I know who got small tractors want to size up eventually. The MT-225 is still small enough that my 9 year old can run it easily. Bigger tire size means not so bumpy, more stable with a load, and more traction.
I like my baby blue. Over a year and only issue was a broken set of loader valve ball ends due to them loosening up. I’d buy again long before the more expensive names. I actually own a John Deere and am what I’d consider a Deere man as well, and after looking at the 1023-1025 I didn’t like them, I also looked at Kubotas bx23’s and didn’t like them either. Wasn’t even about price, orange is my favorite color….. but when I sat on the ls, and crawled around it and stuff, I said yeah, this is laid out better for me, and I actually chose it cause I liked it better.
I only have 1.6 acres, waited since June to take delivery of a 2021 Mahindra emax 20, Loader and Bucket, has skid steer quick attach for forks. (awesome!) Here in southern Ontario Canada, was 25k, 7 years warranty, 0 % financing. 14 hours in after 2 weeks, sure a little jerky on the Bucket, and the Loader is a bit slow at 2500 rpm. But I am brand new operator and it is fun as can be. 1 good size stump ( 6 hours of practice with a bucket) and a bunch of small stumps, shoveled off 4 inch top soil to level some ground with the loader. My neck and shoulders just finally relaxing so I can sleep again, but so far I am loving this little digger!
I really like your channel. I've learned a lot before I bought my Branson 2515h for my 12 acres. I just couldn't afford Green or Orange paint, plus I look better in RED. LOL . The lift capacity of my Branson (2200 lbs) helps considerably for removing stumps, especially with a 24 HP tractor. I also have 275 gal water totes I have to move for watering my fields with rain harvested water. Some of the more expensive comparable Deeres can't compete with that. My dealer is an hour away and a local place 30 miles away works on Bransons too. Thanks again for your channel and great info!!!
I have the New Holland Workmaster 40. Basically this same tractor. I shopped ALL the brands. This one gave me way more tractor for the price. More features, more lift capacity, more power, etc. It's been totally trouble free. Regen only happens every 30 hours or so. It's been a great tractor. New Holland dealers are everywhere. Great support.
I have had a NH TZ18D since 2004. 600 hours. A lot of loader work, box blade work and straight blade work. Also grass and post hole digging. Only problem was a leak in a hydraulic line to the loader. NH/LS tractors are built to last.
As a former Yanmar sales mgr. I have been able to operate many compact tractors. I bought a new Kioti 4510 w/ loader and currently have 160 he's on it. I have found it comparable in every way to " premium" tractors I have used. I did not take this purchase lightly and have been very happy with it.
I have a 3510 and it’s been a work horse on my farm. I’ve put a bit over 400 hours on it in three years without any mech issues other than loosing the little screw that holds the knob on the idle lever and the bucket level indicator breaking (completely my fault.) Sod busting, tilling, bush hogging, gravel grading, moving trailers, dirt moving, fork work, moving hay bails, skidding trees… it does just about everything I need. I do wish that I had gone with a 4510 just so I could use a standard bailer, though.
I looked at Kioti and Yanmar, only issue I had. not one Dealer within an hour drive of my House. I went with Kubota for that reason, those other two mentioned were very comparable.
I have. Kioti CK4010cab tractor. Operated it for two years with no issues (knock knock). I have found it stout, strong and well made. After comparing specs and COST the choice was obvious. I don’t share the resale $$ because I payed way less than green or orange. I would definitely buy another one. I just wish it came with the new Goodyear hybrid tires.
I enjoy your channel and appreciate your points for us non professionals.
I have owned three other tractors prior to this 2019 that Was bought used with 200 hours.
Kioti does have one very stupid thing on the dk10 series. The fuel tank and metal bars are super low which made us get a Kubota.
I purchased a 2019 LS XR 3135 in 2019 new and has the cab, I have about 550 + hours and the only problem with it was the safety switch under seat and the fixed it right away. And our dealer was very helpful. And they will pickup the tractor for my servicing. And the heater and the air is well worth it since I live in the frozen tundra. So I'm so far happy with it.
I bought a compact LS with all the bells and whistles and I love it. Although the “smaller” dealers seem to be more difficult to deal with in our area
Thanks Alan!
On your loader comparison... For hydraulics and loaders there are several things that determine capacity and speed. Hydraulic gallons per minute determines how fast an implement works, hydraulic pressure and cylinder diameter determine the force generated. If you put fatter cylinders on your loader it will lift more, but take longer to lift. You could then upgrade to a bigger GPM pump to get your lift speed back to where you want it. The mechanical design of the loader is also a factor, e.g.. length, shape, pivot points, cylinder mounting locations. A longer loader might lift higher, but not have as much lift capacity. I'm guessing this loader geometry is the main difference you are seeing in the Deere and LS loaders.
shims to increase hyd speed
Very fair analysis, buy the best that you can afford without overextending yourself and try to get something as new or limited hours as possible. A tractor that is in good working order ,regardless of color, is better than not having one
I did a lot of research, including watching this video before buying my LS MT235e. I have been very satisfied with the tractor. With loaded tires it weighs enough to handle everything I have asked of it. It actually lifts more with the front end loader than the specs say as long as I keep an implement attached to the rear to counter balance the weight. Thanks for the informative video. Your channel is always one of my first stops for information.
When I bought about a year ago, I was looking at Kubota and Kioti, roughly 40 hp tractors. Ended up getting the cab version of the kioti for just a little more than the open station Kubota. Very happy with that decision!
which model did you get and may I ask about what did you pay for it? Looking at getting a tractor and would really like a cab version.
@@TexasRedneck CK4010 SE HST cab. Very happy with it, lot of features and capability for the money. Just get the rear tires loaded, a little tippy without an implement on the back.
Edit, just a caveat, I bought it almost 2 years ago, beginning of covid. not sure what prices are like now.
Had a subcompact Kubota for 19 years. The little Kubota was one tough little tractor and gave great service. Plowing snow however showed its limitations so I got a new tractor. I've had my LS XG3025H for 3 and a half years without a problem. Got a 7' hydraulic plow in front with a 7' grader blade in the back. With chains on the front, this thing is a snow eating beast. I skid out 60' pine and fir logs (up to 16" on the butt end) and it never complains. As set up, the LS was about $5000 less than an equivalent Kubota. JD was never on my radar...I have friends that have them and all I heard was complaining, mostly little things, but still. One wants a new LS after watching mine work. I guess time will tell, but very happy so far.
Nothing against LS but when I priced tractor my local LS dealer wouldn't budge on the price and he was only $800 under what I priced my kabota for. This was last November so there was supply chain issues. He had only one tractor left in stock and my kabota was on back order. I ended up just waiting for the kabota and I'm glad I did. I was able to get 84 month 0% interest.
I live in MA. and i have had an LS XJ2025H for 4 years and have had only one no start. My closest dealer is 45 minutes away and they came down to my house and fixed it with no issue. I Have had 2 Kubota tractors and never had issues with them. I had a BX25 & L2501 .. I did notice the XJ2025H had more power in the backhoe & the front loader, It was easy to use and worked great. I am in the process of upgrading.
Bought an XJ 2025 about 6 years ago. Paid about $6k Canadian less than the smaller 1025R deere and the B25 Kubota. The specs weren't even close. More tire, more weight, more lift, More than twice the warranty, overall just more tractor. 2 friends of mine both bought 1025r's and both were shocked when they saw how much more tractor I got for alot less money. 250+ hours later still no issues. Very strong, dependable little tractor. My only regret was the year after I bought mine they came out with quick detach bucket.That would have been handy. Great little tractors, great price!
i just went throught this. i bought a mini skid loader and 5 attachments from a Chinese factory. with shipping and everything i paid 21k. the same pile of equipment bought here in the US would have been over 50k. the lack of support is a big factor, and there is some regret. At the same time i wouldnt be able to afford an American model with 5 implements. After a year of putting the lower quality machine to work ill be able to get a bigger better machine. Ive got 50 hrs on it with no issues.
I was set on a JD after months of studying. The biggest reason was that I can throw a rock and hit a dealer. Until I received a call about an LS with several pieces of equipment for a great price. And, it still had 4 years of warranty left. LS4145. I have had it for 7 years now. I have been wholly impressed. AND,,,,,, there is a dealer 15 minutes from me if I ever have an issue. One other thing. I had read in the green and orange forums that LS was good. But, parts availability was poor. I have not seen this. Granted I have only needed parts that I broke. But, they were there. I have not had any real issues yet.
Aside from the fuel pump going out at 60 hours MT 225e has been perfect! I love it. It does way more than it should for its size. I paid $20,000 for tractor, mower, box blade and 18’ trailer.
Congratulations on your new tractor purchase! I was quoted 24K for tractor front and loader mid Mountain belly mower and backhoe for the MT125. He said the same setup on the MT225 was 28k. I’m assuming that the Backhoe which is the same one sold by titan it’s probably 6 to 7k. Seems like you got an incredible deal. Did they work with you on the price at all? Any negotiation? Where did you purchase yours?
I've owned a LS for over 10 years. I cleaned out my small farm pond with the front loader, worked it hard, a lot of heavy muck. Never an issue. Bush hogged our 50+ acres lots of times.. It sits a bit wider than a JD I was looking at, on my Tennessee hills that was a plus. No issues in about 1000 hours.. I would buy another one but I don't need to this one is still a strong runner!
Got a LS MT345 this spring so far really love this tractor I have just over 100 hours on it and it’s operated great no problems. I watch your channel and am glad to see a LS on here!
Update I have 300 hours now still great tractor no problems
My father in law has a New Holland TC33DA from 2004 and has been a workhorse. The only issue has been the temp gauge that has been replaced three times, and the forth he just added a separate stand alone gauge off the side as the one built in was so expensive and has worked flawlessly since.
I've had my LS for 10 years, purchased brand new. I love my tractor despite a couple minor issues. I would definitely purchase another LS.
A big difference to me besides the lower upfront cost for a TYM, was the features included standard. As I recall LS was similar for the same tractor offered by NH. You got more buying the LS branded model. On the TYM it was a nicer seat, better 3-point arms, draft control, two rear remotes, larger flow rates, higher lift capacities both ends, prewired trailer connector, rear work light. Many of these features were not present, or cost significantly more to add on (the remotes in particular) with JD or Kubota.
My only compliant is the slower loader speed (the cost of higher lifting capacity) and that you really cannot operate both at the same time reliably.
That backhoe is the same as sold by Titan attachments. Which has Besko valves in it, a South Korean company.
The width will be based on ag tires in the narrowest wheel mounting orientation. R4s are much wider.
Guy at work fell for the "they are made in the same factory" and bought an LS. After 2 years of problems he dumped it and now has a kioti. I told him to just buy a Kubota or John Deere, but he cheaped out again.
The problem with these off brands is the dealer network. The guy you buy it from might be out of business or sell another brand when it breaks down and you need parts.
I have John Deere, Ford and White tractors. The only other brand I would consider is Kubota. They have proved themselves and have been in the states about 50 years. Plus they have a huge dealer network.
I have a New Holland Work Master 25s same as LS MT125 it is a 2018 model about 200 hours on it now and I have had only 2 warranty issue and they were taken care of with no issues. I did go with New Holland over LS because of dealer support. My dealer sells New Holland, Kubota, Cat, and a couple other major brands and has been in business for over 40 years. My tractor would fall in the 1025r and the BX range and my uncle owns a 1025r and my New Holland will stomp them both. I don't mow and I don't swap my bucket so some of the strong suits of the other don't mean anything to me. I slapped Pat's Quick hitch on the back and I am happy as can be. My Bucket has a bolt on blade and the bucket nice and heavy duty. I saved well over 4k on both the JD and Kubota and I am very pleased. Again know what you need out of your tractor and buy what you need. Plus New Holland Blue is the best looking tractor color out there LOL. Nice Video and great review
I have a 33 hp LS, that I bought new in 2012, so far it has been bulletproof. It gets used almost everyday from February to mid October.
Had a 45hp LS (XR4145HC) for 3 years. Zero issues so far. Have a great dealer too
I will say..restoring 5 older john deere garden tractors and every part I have asked my local dealer for they have been able to grab it off a shelf and/or order it for me. And these are 35 year old tractors. It's not the green paint you pay for, it's the parts availability afterwards.
Before I bought my LS, I looked at several brands. I bought mine in 2020 and paid $28000 with loader, metal roof and a 6’ grapple. When I looked at JD and Kubota, I could barely buy the tractor for that price. Mine is the xr4140, 40hp. I have two maybe three LS dealers within a 1 hour drive one of which is within 15 minutes. I have had it for about a year and a half and I’ve been very happy with it. Thank you for all of your videos, I’ve learned a good bit from them. Get it up!
I just bought an LS MT347 and I love it.
I have a new mt225s seat has nice armrests and great adjustability! I am fortunate to have an excellent dealer 25 miles down the road. Fit and finish looks great, very very happy with everything so far. Can’t say enough about the dealer we have and the service! That was the big seller for me!
When we bought our property of 11.5 acres it had a 54hp New Holland. It only had a loader but it was a beast when it came to lift capacity. It was 15 years old and was used hard and put away wet from the previous owner and was showing its age. It was too big for my property with numerous oak trees to maneuver around and hilly terrain. I bought a JD2038R and have been very happy with it. One of the things that drove me nuts with the New Holland was the dealer support which was worthless. That’s because they paid the lowest wages possible and couldn’t keep good workers. You need to check out the local dealer support before you buy. I ended up getting my NH worked on at the local John Deere dealer who did a fabulous job so when I was ready to switch tractors they got my first consideration.
I just bought my first LS. Dealer is putting ballast in the tires and installing a block heater. She gets delivered on Tuesday at 4pm and I'm stoked.
My Uncle worked for LS as a troubled fixer across the US 🇺🇸 and he spent time at the john deere store as well as case and newholland .but you will never know that for sure. Wink wink. Most of the LS come standard with all of the options (3rd remote, extra lights,.....) where on the name brands it has to be ordered as a option.
Good review. When I was shopping for a tractor early this year I looked at the big 2, the New Holland/LS and the Kioti. Then I stopped in at one of the bigger local dealers and they convinced me to look at one I hadn’t considered…Branson. 3515H to be specific. It was the heaviest, had the best loader capacity, but what I really liked was the mechanical simplicity of the non turbo engine that was co-produced with Cummins and the all cast iron rear end. The value and a 7 year warranty was also hard to argue with. I ended up going that route and it’s been an absolute workhorse in our property services company. Just land planed a shared community gravel driveway with it today.
I switched from Deere to Mahindra and have no regrets at all . My neighbor went with a larger LS model on his farm and he loves it .
Courtney: Great video, thanks! I bought a new LS XG3135H in 2016 and absolutely love it. I paid $22,000 for the tractor six years ago. It is well built and has all the power I need.
Chris G.
Whidbey Island, Washington
Great review Kourt. As a tractor enthusiasts I like em all. Another thing I like about LS is the color. Great looking machine. No matter the brand, sometime or another your going to have issues. I've owned different tractors for 30 years and in 2018 for the very first time I went and bought a brand new 3025 E. Two weeks later I had buyers remorse. I think the "E" stands for entry level . The front end loader will not pick up a 500# fuel cell. Not only have I had hydraulic issues the wiring on it is terrible. Keeps blowing 15 amp fuses. The electric PTO takes 20 to 30 seconds for the implement to kick on that is if it doesn't blow a fuse and shut the tractor down. I've had it back to the dealership twice and each time the kept it for 45 days and still have the same problems. Its the luck of the draw, whether you get a good service department or a bad one. I've seen good reviews on LS and like every other brand I have seen bad ones. Wish you all the best.
New Holland compact tractors prior to 2010 were made by Shibaura in Japan. New Holland and CaseIH compacts with the CVT are still made by Shibaura. But since 2010, New Holland and CaseIH compacts are still made by LS. They are great tractors.
I live about 5 miles from a JD dealership, and I have nothing against the place. That said, in September 2015, I drove about 80 miles away and bought a new LS 3037H with a front loader and back blade for around $25,000. This was 'several' thousand less than a comparable three-series JD would have cost. As of now I have about 800 hours on it and have had ZERO mechanical problems. I drive it to the nearby JD dealer for service that I can't or don't want to do myself. It has a standard quick attach for front end attachments, and I have purchased several. I mostly use it on my property with a grapple for tree and brush removal, ATV trail mowing and maintenance, and snow removal. I really couldn't be happier with the machine. Since I bought it an LS dealership has opened much closer than the place where I purchased it.
Great review. Biggest LS issue is the dealer network (or lack of). They all have a long way to go to match JD.
I looked at a 45 HP LS cab HYDRO drive with loader and 2 rear hydraulic hookups at 30K. A john Deere with the same set up was 50K!
I searched for about 1 year hard for tractors. In my town we have about 300,000 thousand people living in are county. farms and live stock/cows and horses are a small portion of the ways people make a living. I’ve got a old work truck that looks like a wore out work truck and I also have a new Chevy HIGH COUNTRY 4 door truck. When I pulled up in front of the store in that work truck Deere nor Kubota would even come outside to even talk to me. I come back latter that week in the new 70,000 dollar truck and they were happy to come out then. From my experience Kubota and Deere cater to the rich that’s my story and im sticking to it
Hey Mr.Courtney, the ONLY thing wrong with that Tractor is the Trashy, low-rider buck-board excuse for a seat. You should be a "nice-guy" & scrap the seat, either go to your custom supply inventory or get a cement block & bungy cord to out fit this rig for the customer. It surely out loads any L series Kubota l have seen or used. My Kubota Mx5200 TLB would have a hard time keeping up with the LS's loader performance. The Kubota bh92 backhoe would "bury" the LS on performance. Thank you for the Excellent "hands-on" vidio presentation. Happy safe tractoring & keep this kind of vidio presentations up.
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Have a 2019 LS MT347 we got new and have about a hundred hours on it without a single problem. We love it so far and it's gets used all the time. Nice to see a fair review about it. Sure they aren't the best brand out there but for the price and features you get plus the warranty that actually is covered by the manufacturer you can't go wrong in my opinion. If I were to buy a green or orange one I'd have gotten nowhere near the same machine for the money.
As the owner of a 23 year old Kubota b2400 I can attest to the value of a good dealer network. I needed a part for the bi- speed front axle which was leaking and needed replacement. I was pleasantly surprised that I could get this part at a reasonable price and only took a week to get. My local dealer is great and I don't think you can put a price on that.Aside from that these other "off" brand tractors are made well and will get the work done. Nice work on your site keeping bias out of your comments. Well done.
My neighbor has one with a loader. So far we have rescued it twice, stuck or broken. Had to weld the rear case and the rear of the bucket. Also a bunch of little stuff has broken. My little Yanmar tractor has had nothing go wrong yet. So we just keep working and snow is coming so the loader will get a work out.
Great comparison and overview. Before I bought my Massey Ferguson 1740M, I looked at them all, and I ended up narrowing it down to Kubota and Massey Ferguson. Both dealers are within 30 minutes or less from my house. I ended up going with the Massey Ferguson because of the dealer, and I just liked the Massey Ferguson better because it has ground level fueling with all the options that I wanted. I have 220 hours on it now, and it has performed flawlessly. My dealer is awesome, and they are not a national chain either, a mom and pop business that I'm glad to support. Great video!
Same here. I went a little smaller with the 1725MB. Been using it all year and not a single problem with it. Got it with the loader and BH for less than Kubota wanted for the bare tractor.
John Medlin are you satisfied with your service at Black's
@@melaniekeen3611 Absolutely, Steven is a pleasure to deal with.
Went tractor shopping, looked at orange, red, and green tractors. I was very interested in the green one but after spending time with green sales manager and giving him all my information I guess I didn't look like I could afford the green one because they never called me back. Stopped into a LS dealer where I was treated like gold. bought a MT340HC. Love it! and saved almost ten grand..
I've got an MT7101CPS and in 5 months I have over 120hrs. I love it and I'm looking at getting an MT357H to do the smaller jobs where the 100hp isn't needed. We use our tractor for haying, plowing, disking, road building and it's been a great tractor. Added the third remote for the rear hydraulics and it came with the third function already plumbed on the loader. The New Holland dealer has been pretty impressed with it as he wanted to see how different they are from the New Holland tractors. The NH/Case has a little bit better fit and finish and polish,but for $25,000 more for basically the same tractor, it had better be.
The R-14 tires are amazing and I was skeptical of them when they first came out but using them plowing, disking and heavy dirt work have been impressive and their road manners are great and smooth
I have had an LS 40 horse for about 1 year now. Been great with no problem. My dealer, Cosper In Alvarado Tx family owned great service!
I wish I had bought one .I went with Branson. With only a short one year warranty I really got stung . With just 135 hrs. 4 repairs so far latest is a oil leak at the rear end.any repair help is over after the first year. I am posting this so others can enjoy a much happier experience than with a Branson
It took me over a year tractor shopping before I pulled the trigger and bought a new tractor. Looked at every brand and dealership within a 100 mile radius.
Thing that killed the LS for me was when the salesman at the local dealership couldn't figure out how to open the hood. Not gonna buy from someone who doesn't know how their own equipment works.
I’d rather support for companies that support my country it’s not about money it’s about retaining self-sufficiency
I have a LS XR4145 cab tractor that was bought used and and it’s been a great tractor though dealer support is a minor issue. I did have to replace the computer in it which was highly frustrating because there were only two servicing dealers, both about an hour drive, and I picked the wrong one to do the work. All dealers are not created equal! Joes Tractor in Thomasville, NC was fantastic and I’ve done more business with them since. I’ve thought about trading it for a Kubota or JD cause they have dealers within 15 and 20 minutes respectively, but to get something in a comparable price range I’d simply have to give up too much tractor. I enjoy your videos and was pleased to see this review of LS.
36 years ago I worked for a Yanmar dealer--- every year his family would be flown to Japan to tour the factory--- in the same factory there were Yanmar, John Deere, and Ford tractors---- and if I remember right John Deere and Ford took Yanmar to court because they were selling the Yanmar cheaper and under cutting the John Deere and Ford models that they also built.
I have a New Holland Boomer 41 cab tractor made by LS. I bought this because I have a New Holland dealer close. I have 800 hours on the tractor and have not had any problems. Done the required maintenance and the tractor is a workhorse. Mine has a Shirbaura engine that has been super!
I have a LS and love it! In fact I just ordered a bigger one!
Nice! Is LS the perfect blue?
Haha 😂 No! My car Pictured is
Excellent video. I'm a long time Yanmar owner. There are tradeoffs in buying the less popular brands but I've rarely needed parts or service so it's okay. It comes down to your intended use and available budget. If I used mine in commercial service, I would be willing to spend more. For small farm use, most all the available brands do a good job and provide a good value to the owners. And for what it's worth, sometimes a person just likes other colors to choose from. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Nice job on this Courtney. Love seeing other brands reviewed. I'm a new Kubota owner and I agree that the dealer was a big factor in my choice. I was shopping last year and two local Deere dealers didn't return my call or emails. The Kubota dealer did, answered all my stupid questions, and got a sale...then another sale of a lawnmower...then another implement... then two more implements.... So if those two John Deere dealers in Central NY are reading this, (smash cut to Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman) Big mistake!
I have a LS mt-350e I bought new in 18. Dealer is around 30-40 mins away. Only had one issue under warranty dealer sent me the part and it was installed. I have it with the backhoe attachment and paid 29k out the door. It's my first tractor and I've been very happy with it.
LS actually builds tractors for Case and new Holland. I have a friend that works for Case and he told me that Case and New Holland are the same if you look at the stickers on both tractors they will have CNH. That stands for Case New holland and if you look at the various plates on the engine and Trans they has LS wrote on them. Just a little FYI. 👍
Almost anything is better than bowing down to companies who won't allow you to repair your own equipment. Japanese manufacturers are known for better quality than US goods. I have at least two of their brands I've been looking at. Dropping the green greedy ones I've had for so long I think. And thank you for this vid and those commenting giving feedback on these tractors. Helps a lot.
I owned an LS for a few years, and my Dad has always owned John Deere (2014 XR 3037H LS VS 2006 John Deere 3720. The E Hydro just worked better than the mechanical on the LS. Dont even attempt to compare taking the loader on and off because John Deere was by far superior. I Did a lot of work my LS where I was taking the loader on and off and that really was the biggest complaint I had about the machine. Never had any mechanical or electrical issues with the LS in that aspect it worked just fine. I would also mention that when it comes time to sell your average consumer had no idea what an LS was and it made it difficult to sell
Very interesting. One thing I've noticed with the other brands is the SCVs seem to be sloppy. My brother in law owns a Mahindra and the loader is sloppy and everything feels cheap. As far as loader lift capacity, I'm sure the geometry of the loader has something to do with it, if the cylinders and system pressures are similar. If the loader of the LS is slower, it could have larger cylinders pushing that lift capacity up.
I traded my 2000 New Holland TC45D for a JD3039R. I looked at the NH because I really liked how mine operated, but I also wanted a cab and the mid mount mower and the NH (or LS) with the cab didn’t have that option. One of my biggest complaints is the view to the front, which was way better in the New Holland. I find I have to try and look around the engine with the John Deere to just see where I am at with the loader. I never had that issue with the NH. I also miss that faster dumping with the NH. I keep thinking there is a problem with the JD and how it dumps. I thought that was interesting when you mentioned that.
I’m glad your branching out. I kept thinking there are so many other brands that didn’t seem to be represented.
I bought a 38hp Montana tractor (LS) back in 2010. I checked out the Kubota and the Deere as well at the time. The Montana came with a skidsteer quick attach loader and had two sets of hydraulics on the back. Kubota wanted $1500 to add one set of hydraulics on the back and the Deere tractor was so expensive that i didn't need to ask anymore what adding hydraulics would cost. Kubota and Deere didn't offer the skidsteer quick attach back then. At the time i bought it this LS tractor was a very complete, handy and affordable little tractor. The Kubota had the Kubota engine under the hood, the john Deere had i think a Yanmar and my LS has the Mitsubishi. All three are great engines. My LS (Montana) has about 850 hours on it without any breakdowns or repairs. It really has been a great tractor. LS builds small tractors for New Holland, Mc Cormick, Case, Landini and probably a few more manufacturers.