Beginner VS PRO Guitar Tone

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • Guitar Tone Beginner VS Professional
    do you remember when you thought gain on 10 was the best sound ever?!
    #reels #jamieslaysuk #lambofgod #expectationvsreality #beginnervspro #guitartone #distortion #gain #dropdriffs #guitarist

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  • @destroydestroyer
    @destroydestroyer 11 місяців тому +1993

    Sludge dudes: “Dude, that first tone is SICK”

    • @gregarmstrong2500
      @gregarmstrong2500 8 місяців тому +120

      As a sludge dude, I approve this message.

    • @s666thanael
      @s666thanael 7 місяців тому +62

      as another sludge dude, i approve this message.

    • @danielbrowniel
      @danielbrowniel 6 місяців тому +23

      It's fine.
      All the millennials that learned electric on a 10 watt Frontman are rollng their eyes.
      You know what we had to make the guitar sound like anything else but clean?
      We borrowed our uncles Digitech multieffects pedal and it made the guitar sound worse than a keyboard's version of a guitar. Go look at an RP100 review, it's hilarious how bad it is.
      I would have killed for a katana/HTR/Positive Grid

    • @destroydestroyer
      @destroydestroyer 6 місяців тому +20

      @@danielbrowniel dude, my first setup was a 10 watt Epiphone amp and a Metalzone. I was there, Gandolf. I was there in 2000

    • @danielbrowniel
      @danielbrowniel 6 місяців тому

      I can 1 up this.
      Before guitar, I played bass.
      I had a Peavy P bass and took a tape deck converter (for cdplayers or mp3 players to work on tape players) I pluged one end into a 1/4 inch adapter and directly into the bass.. and then the other end was a tape, and naturally, I put that in a tape player. And I had to turn the volume WAY up, but it worked.
      So I played Southtown-POD until my fingers bled.
      @@destroydestroyer

  • @evandrews7804
    @evandrews7804 2 роки тому +6259

    His beginner tone sounded way better than mine, I started on like a 10 dollar amp then moved to a fender champion 20 and would put it on the metal setting and turn everything up to 10 and add a ds1 turned up all the way with a single coil guitar 😭

    • @jakesanders7163
      @jakesanders7163 2 роки тому +322

      lmao you just perfectly described my current set up😭

    • @coldshaadow6320
      @coldshaadow6320 2 роки тому +53

      I still use a fender champion 110 for band practice doing deathcore because it's 75 watts and easy to carry and it gets the job done just enough haha

    • @abowlofbootyflakes2180
      @abowlofbootyflakes2180 2 роки тому +8

      Same lmao

    • @CyclingMartialartswithMusic
      @CyclingMartialartswithMusic 2 роки тому +31

      All the gain, all the gain. Slayer. Metal Zone.- CS guitars.

    • @blissfulbeats1301
      @blissfulbeats1301 2 роки тому +3

      Same man! I started with a fender mini deluxe amp for 30 bucks and a off brand fender. Now I have a fender champion 50 and the same off brand fender with California 50’s in it

  • @jb_50w78
    @jb_50w78 2 роки тому +4970

    Basically just get a good amp, don’t use too much gain and don’t scoop the mids too much.

    • @thaatmatt
      @thaatmatt 2 роки тому +43

      what do you mean by good amp?

    • @ctld5266
      @ctld5266 2 роки тому +304

      bullshit. play any sound you want. if you're talented it will become a trend. I am a huge fan of Brian May tone, but was also very influenced by And justice for guitar sound. Uber scooped, with plenty a bass and treble that will damage speaker if too loud. That's far from being what was consider a good tone at that time. but till today, it remain a classic, and influenced a lot of guitar player

    • @jb_50w78
      @jb_50w78 2 роки тому +42

      I don’t think it should be hard to understand what I mean by a good amp. I mean just any good quality amp that professionals would use (Mesa Boogie, Marshall, Peavey, EVH, etc.)
      When you are a beginner, you are just starting to learn about gear and it will take a little while to find which amp you like most and your preferred tone. But any experienced guitarist will know that the first example he played sounds like shit, and every beginner starts out doing something like that.

    • @jb_50w78
      @jb_50w78 2 роки тому +17

      @@ctld5266 they used a Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ and I believe a Marshall speaker cab on And Justice For All. They scooped the mids on that amp because it naturally has a lot of mids. I agree that’s a great tone. But very hard to get that tone.

    • @ctld5266
      @ctld5266 2 роки тому +12

      @@jb_50w78 actually that's not. i got in touch with flemming rasmussen before he post his notes from the recording of puppets and AFJA. On AFJA it's Quad preamp scooping mids on the graph eq @ 750, on simul class power amp, with an eq in the loop scooping @ 1,2khz & boosting @ 120Hz and 4,6Khz.

  • @OmegaMarioMaster
    @OmegaMarioMaster 2 роки тому +784

    That beginner tone sounds like a demo to the song while the pro sounds like the album version

  • @happyinhalecompany
    @happyinhalecompany 2 роки тому +1543

    Ahh, the sweet effects of an noise gate and an EQ

    • @19MadMike95
      @19MadMike95 2 роки тому +209

      Arguably the most important change was the significantly lower amount of gain.

    • @pcplayerreacts1865
      @pcplayerreacts1865 Рік тому +5

      yes dude

    • @sickpuppets
      @sickpuppets Рік тому +59

      A noise gate isn't what you're supposed to notice my dude. It's the muddy sound first vs the nice n tight sound 2nd.
      Most newbs wanna crank the lows to get that chest thump when they play solo that you normally get from a bass in an ensemble. It can sound better playing alone, but sounds like muddy trash in the studio mix or live with other instruments that occupy those low frequencies.

    • @TakeHit0
      @TakeHit0 Рік тому +23

      ​@@sickpuppets Both tones don't mean anything. It's useless to compare something outside of the context of the mix. For all you know the first tone could sound better in a certain mix than the other

    • @sickpuppets
      @sickpuppets Рік тому +2

      @A K no. Just no. For all you know, I didn't just download a png of a les paul somewhere online and may have made some actual music.
      Ive heard all kinds of tones in a mix. At best muddy distorted tones make half decent blues tracks and 90s grunge rythms. Nobody is using that shit today. Now post a link to a "mix" you've made or fuggoff m8

  • @AICfan50
    @AICfan50 2 роки тому +801

    So basically 2021 Metallica vs 1988 metallica

    • @jofusnufc841
      @jofusnufc841 Рік тому +35

      well no. Justice had actually very low gain

    • @yegocego
      @yegocego Рік тому +28

      ​@@jofusnufc841 yeah thats what hes talking about professional tone had low gain and multiple tracks just like justice tone

    • @jofusnufc841
      @jofusnufc841 Рік тому +1

      @@yegocego but neither tone has different techniques recording wise

    • @yegocego
      @yegocego Рік тому +3

      @@jofusnufc841 james recorded 4 tracks on top of each other and side recorded every one of them

    • @jofusnufc841
      @jofusnufc841 Рік тому +2

      @@yegocego I stand corrected

  • @ConstantineM
    @ConstantineM 2 роки тому +772

    Ahh, I remember when I used to play on maximum level of gain on my amp. That was so noisy but gosh, so easy to play.
    I was thinking that I'm god of guitar, lol.
    But then I go live and to the studio I was kicked in balls for that ALL THE GAIN bad habbit. My sound was terrible. All these years... Gosh
    Glad it make me so much better.

    • @logikman329
      @logikman329 2 роки тому +13

      And that's exactly why I, sometimes, play with the gain almost completely turned off, the added distortion turned off and the compression down below 100%... (For reference, I put it up to 160% to get something along the lines of AJFA...)

    • @chrisking6695
      @chrisking6695 2 роки тому +53

      Playing with high gain is much more difficult because all your mistakes translate into noise whereas on a clean channel it's much more subdued. I've never understood why people say high gain covers up mistakes. It does the opposite. When I play on Ana acoustic guitar I can be way more sloppy with my muting but on high gain I can't. Just lifting my finger from the strings makes a noise on my electric guitar with high gain.

    • @danieldickson5872
      @danieldickson5872 2 роки тому +6

      @@chrisking6695 very true I love playing metal on my acoustic, even if my fretting is slightly off the note still pulls through

    • @PLSGuitar
      @PLSGuitar 2 роки тому +24

      @@chrisking6695 well playing with high gain will hide uneven picking and poor legato technique, because everything is compressed so much. So it does cover up mistakes in a way. But yeah at the same time it makes it much harder to avoid unwanted string noise. Just a different way of playing that's arguably easier overall.

    • @FG-vp6id
      @FG-vp6id 9 місяців тому

      For me its the opposite, i can do better gallops with lower gain lmao

  • @Apocryphone
    @Apocryphone 2 роки тому +1157

    Jamie you should make a vid showing how to craft a professional tone like that

    • @eugenelegrand5593
      @eugenelegrand5593 2 роки тому +17

      I agree

    • @leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667
      @leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667 2 роки тому +18

      it's really fucking easy to make lmao just get good irs and nalex/lepou plugins

    • @atklod2620
      @atklod2620 2 роки тому +236

      @@leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667 Not much help tbh

    • @leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667
      @leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667 2 роки тому +1

      @@atklod2620 wdym not much help tbh it's literally what i do and i already get a good tone

    • @atklod2620
      @atklod2620 2 роки тому +78

      @@leonardoignaciorodriguezga9667 good is subjective, any specific plugins that you could recommend?
      Also not much help if you use more analog gear instead of everything digital

  • @RedDed228
    @RedDed228 2 роки тому +224

    as a metal player over the years I've found my gain knob turning further back.

    • @ItsBigJC
      @ItsBigJC Рік тому +20

      Same mate. To be honest though nobody really puts the info out there to get a really good tone. I find that only after 16 years of playing that I have now the ability to get a really good sounding tone because of looking back at what I used to do.
      People on here just saying simple things like roll back the gain and don’t scoop the mids too much ( it is helpful ) but isn’t the ultimate answer. Obviously so many variables come in to it which no one explains.
      Like for instance - certain amps have naughty frequencies.
      Like about 4k on the 5150 for me always needs to be adjusted dependant on how much low end you put in.
      It is endless as even the guitar your using comes into this.
      It was using a helix that made me realise how much.
      Making a mega patch that I spent hours on. Change the guitar and it sounds terrible 🤣
      Even having someone else play the exact same guitar on the same patch can change it in a big way.
      One thing I have discovered which is cool with a helix is to make a tone you like and then try to replicate it closely with a completely different amp and drive pedal on another patch.
      In the mix you then have similiarity but not the same and then with dual guitar parts you get such a nice fill of the spectrum.
      I think one thing I definitely always do now is think of tone in the context of a mix and not what I hear when I make a tone for playing in the room.
      Low end is something that new players struggle with because they don’t realise how many tracks have been layered or how much the bass fills in.
      We can all of experience say so much more for beginners or people who are struggling
      I think many just think ah fuck it I spent ages learning my craft to get where I am.
      We all would have been so much better at it quicker if we got help 🤣

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah man you can really hear the difference just rolling it back a bit

    • @RedDed228
      @RedDed228 4 місяці тому

      @@TheBanana93 oh yeah absolutely, you get better clarity less interference, like as long as you find a good middle ground you can make it sound heavy as heck without the knob being anywhere past 50%

    • @Denden-mx9gl
      @Denden-mx9gl 5 годин тому

      My distortion is clocked to 0 and amp clocked to 40 🤣

  • @Casey3-P-O
    @Casey3-P-O 2 роки тому +435

    I've noticed less distortion sounds better when you're playing in a band or on a recording. And often when I play alone, I'll use more distortion. It's more fun to play with, but doesn't always suit the mix. I really like the tones that Ghost uses on their first 3 albums, and they don't use too much distortion. Another example: I far prefer Megadeth's album guitar tones more than Metallica's.

    • @TheEliOfficial
      @TheEliOfficial 2 роки тому +24

      I'm so happy to see someone else love the Ghost tones. Perfectly heavy and chunky without a shitlload of gain.

    • @xarch7208
      @xarch7208 2 роки тому +12

      really? imo you cannot beat the rtl tone, justice guitar tone and especially the black album tone.

    • @Casey3-P-O
      @Casey3-P-O 2 роки тому +17

      @@xarch7208 definitely not saying Metallica's tones are bad. They have some classic sounds, especially on their classic albums. But I just prefer the extra treble with a bit more mid that Megadeth uses.

    • @xarch7208
      @xarch7208 2 роки тому +9

      @@Casey3-P-O understandable. that rust in peace tone is pretty amazing I must say

    • @Casey3-P-O
      @Casey3-P-O 2 роки тому +7

      @@xarch7208 exactly! That's definitely my favorite Deth album. And then countdown too. I know how to play every song from Rust on guitar. Solos and everything. I'm currently learning all of Countdown. It just kind of sucks, because now it's all I ever want to play. lol

  • @codgodchamp1144
    @codgodchamp1144 2 роки тому +92

    Both sound pretty badass \m/

  • @tommy.n.guitarist
    @tommy.n.guitarist 2 роки тому +76

    Back when I was a newbie I used to crank the gain and bass way up to get that beefy heavy chug and infinite sustain. After a couple of big gigs and recording experience, the thing has totally changed by now.
    It's great to see many players with the same problem have improved

  • @beaudoesmusic3461
    @beaudoesmusic3461 2 роки тому +39

    0:32 "if there was a single day I could live, a single breath I could take, I'd trade all the others away."

  • @thebananaman2003
    @thebananaman2003 2 роки тому +534

    Beginner: hit the pinch harmanics perfectly
    Me (who been playing this song for 3 years): still cant hit the god damn pinch harmonic

    • @MeatusLong
      @MeatusLong 2 роки тому +9

      I felt that

    • @blake9179
      @blake9179 2 роки тому +12

      I started working on them very, very early and it was bad when it came to what I was prioritizing but I’m glad I did it.

    • @heavymetal_cutting_fabrication
      @heavymetal_cutting_fabrication 2 роки тому +15

      All it is is hitting the string with a little bit of your thumb and pick in the right spot over the pickups. And playing aggressively helps make them ring out better. Don’t be afraid to really attack the strings when you’re picking especially for pinch harmonics. Best thing is to have a more experienced player show you how to hold the pick and where to pick the string. Plenty of videos cover it too.

    • @qwertyuioplmzaswq
      @qwertyuioplmzaswq 2 роки тому +2

      Isolate the prob, and work it to the fucking ground. Ull get it.

    • @tc23232
      @tc23232 Рік тому +2

      Me too :( I practice by playing Happy Birthday with only pinches

  • @TheDudeEffect
    @TheDudeEffect Рік тому +18

    Dialing in that perfect tone is something that I'll never achieve and I've been playing for 20 years now.

  • @sean33840
    @sean33840 2 роки тому +31

    Proper muting technique is harder than learning the actual notes in my opinion.

  • @Reaper4-3
    @Reaper4-3 Рік тому +70

    If anyone was as curious as I was:
    Artist: Lamb of God
    Song: Laid to Rest
    Hope this helps

    • @_lostclub
      @_lostclub 6 місяців тому +1

      who doesn't immediately recognize this song? lol

    • @earthwormsammy7093
      @earthwormsammy7093 5 місяців тому

      there was literally no other reason why i checked the comments

    • @vsaucemichaelhere3409
      @vsaucemichaelhere3409 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks you that pinch harmonic riff was so familiar, I would have never figured that out.

    • @Sumoniggro
      @Sumoniggro 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@_lostclub recognizing the song versus knowing exactly what song it is, some say "this sounds familiar" others say "if there was a single moment I could live, a single breath I could take, I'd trade all the others away"

  • @j-monk3063
    @j-monk3063 2 роки тому +127

    7 years and i guess im still a beginner

    • @Hadouken5150
      @Hadouken5150 Рік тому +5

      You kinda got to pay to play unless you use plugins. Good tones come from tube amps. There’s a handful of cheaper rigs that make good tones, but for the most part you gotta pay for a good tone. Try to find a used Peavey 6505 or 6505+, that will get you to where you want to be most likely. First tube I ever bought blew my mind. Cheers dude.

    • @random_an0n
      @random_an0n Рік тому

      @@Hadouken5150 lmao no,the majority is in the fingers,you cant buy skill,play like shit on a expensive guitar and amp you sound shit,play good on cheap crap it will still sound ok

    • @ShadovvV
      @ShadovvV 7 місяців тому +1

      See you in another 20. My advice.. abandon all hope unless you're expecting a miracle.

    • @deamantas32
      @deamantas32 6 місяців тому

      .

  • @GuitarIv69
    @GuitarIv69 Рік тому +26

    Amp set to crunch, boost with an OD pedal, healthy amount of mids and a strong pick attack. Not easy to play, but that's the sound that's gonna cut and punch. Oh the days of scooped mids and fuzzlike levels of distortion... been there, done that 😅

  • @AtoMiCM0nkies
    @AtoMiCM0nkies 2 роки тому +24

    *Laughs in Line 6 Spyder 4*

    • @zsaz4453
      @zsaz4453 8 місяців тому

      Same😢

    • @porchmonkey5774
      @porchmonkey5774 7 місяців тому +1

      His first one sounds like the distortion setting that I use on my Spyder 3 lol

  • @Aruk02
    @Aruk02 2 роки тому +17

    Would love to see a video about tone tips next

  • @Metallinguss
    @Metallinguss 2 роки тому +19

    Please show how to get your tones!! My tone sadly still sounds like the first one, especially including the static and feedback lol.

    • @DS-zo8xs
      @DS-zo8xs Рік тому +4

      A noise suppressor pedal helped me out a bunch for the feedback and static.

    • @lowe_the_showe202
      @lowe_the_showe202 Рік тому

      ​@D S but they also take away from your tone

    • @helio1055
      @helio1055 10 місяців тому +2

      @@lowe_the_showe202No they don’t? Who told you that lmfao

    • @lowe_the_showe202
      @lowe_the_showe202 10 місяців тому

      @@helio1055 using one told me

    • @lukmannurhakim5920
      @lukmannurhakim5920 4 місяці тому

      If you use it too much​@@lowe_the_showe202

  • @Selahattinsuleiman
    @Selahattinsuleiman 21 день тому

    Superbly accurate

  • @HenryChauhanDrums1
    @HenryChauhanDrums1 2 роки тому +2

    Another nice quick and simple vid. Starting to learn more and more about good metal guitar tone as I'm watching you

  • @dancraig8897
    @dancraig8897 2 роки тому +25

    Slipknot shirt and playing LoG, takes me back to the good ol days!

  • @Lotastic_Films
    @Lotastic_Films 2 роки тому +28

    Is that the Harley Benton EX 84 EMG? If so how do you like it?

  • @kurtshirvinski836
    @kurtshirvinski836 2 місяці тому

    Peavey 6534+ sim with gain set to like 9-10 o-clock, and a maxed level/no gain tube screamer up front is my go to. I keep my EQ pretty balanced. I tune in Drop A# or Drop C so my bass is a hair under noon, mids and treble at about 1 o-clock or so. Keeps it super tight and clear with just enough saturation to chug. I use a 12-74 custom Stringjoy set and it just sounds so massive

  • @alexzemaitis1207
    @alexzemaitis1207 Рік тому +9

    I think this is supposed to demonstrate how the beginner because of how amateurish they’re at guitar use more gain and crank their amps up thinking it sounds cool but it’s actually very noisy and all over the place but the pro has a much more well balanced sound and enough gain to where it doesn’t sound like you’re playing through a line 6 spider because they got a better understanding of how to dial in the tones they want

  • @mcgamescompany
    @mcgamescompany 2 роки тому +23

    Back then i had just a 10w shitty amp (which i still have), no gain control whatsoever. Then i got a behringer um300 pedal, which doesn't sound really good with that amp and it sounds shitty af plugged in directly to an interface, but at least i had distortion (which i never used since i started playing guitar, like 6-7 years ago). Then i bought a behringer multieffects pedal, which i didn't use that much, and the pitch shifter is just useless. Then i got some tools to plug my guitar to my computer and used bias fx 1-2 for a long time, until i got my zoom g1x four, which its pretty good for the price, and with some equalizers and reverb you can get a somewhat acceptable sound, and it's pretty easy to use too.
    Edit: i forgot to include that after that i bought a marshall mg10 10w amp, which paired with the zoom g1x four pedal creates a pretty metal tone.

    • @aqilasraf
      @aqilasraf 2 роки тому

      wow i have the same amp and use behringer ultra metal um300, recently I think the sound is not that good. do you recommend to pair it with zoom g1x?

    • @mcgamescompany
      @mcgamescompany 2 роки тому

      @@aqilasraf If that's what you can afford, yes. If you buy it remember to turn on the "mic" setting on the cabs or else the simulated cabs will not work

    • @sashabagdasarow497
      @sashabagdasarow497 2 роки тому

      Um300 sounds bad in interface? Hm, it sounds pretty darn good with my setup.
      It doesn't sound that good with the amp though.

    • @sashabagdasarow497
      @sashabagdasarow497 2 роки тому

      @@aqilasraf um300 might be pretty tricky to set up. What settings do you use? Try this: bass 5, high 4, mid frequency 5, mid boost 5.

    • @mcgamescompany
      @mcgamescompany 2 роки тому

      @@sashabagdasarow497 directly plugged in yes, are you running some cab sim or something?

  • @Tangent_Frank
    @Tangent_Frank 9 місяців тому +1

    I always chase the tim mahoney high gain tone like off of from chaos. I found that your treble affects your gain punch, and you can match your mids with your bass to prevent mudding, and it comes darn close

  • @bartib1151
    @bartib1151 7 місяців тому

    I was the same way… loved turning up the gain so much because I thought it would have given me more sustain, now that I’ve gotten really good I’ve really turned down the gain a lot over the past few years, and it does make a difference.

  • @dynomantar9733
    @dynomantar9733 2 роки тому +8

    Killer. Show us how you get your tone. Please.

  • @Stelsideridis
    @Stelsideridis 2 роки тому +5

    what the professional tone

  • @mikedolan6176
    @mikedolan6176 Місяць тому

    Im an AC/DC guy and as a youngster i always wanted that mega drive distortion, but the older i got i realized they barely use any distortion at all! Very different to this context, but i love playing on my acoustic while JAMMING to AC/DC playing Malcolm's parts.

  • @jakelakota3393
    @jakelakota3393 Рік тому +1

    Noise gate, EQ, and pickup adjustment.. works wonders..

  • @sirishrestha
    @sirishrestha 2 роки тому +4

    Good playing man! 🔥🔥 That axe looks freaking awesome! Hows the neck on it? Chunky or thinner?

    • @mihailoniciforovic2666
      @mihailoniciforovic2666 2 роки тому +1

      Got it, neck is chunky. It tapers but not that much to make difference for me personally.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  2 роки тому +3

      In between. It’s very smooth

  • @Integralsouls
    @Integralsouls 2 роки тому +21

    If I have one wish to make ,I’d ask for TesseracT’s tone.

    • @Vall619
      @Vall619 2 роки тому

      I have kinda reached it but it's not 100% like it

    • @jaycue7641
      @jaycue7641 2 роки тому

      Probably need a really active gate on the amp to get that djenty tone.

  • @alyxgregoire296
    @alyxgregoire296 2 роки тому +2

    The way the second one cuts it’s so fucking good holy fuck

  • @CAPTAINJACKSIXX
    @CAPTAINJACKSIXX 3 години тому

    Of course the "Boss Metal Zone" "DigiTech Death Metal" tone we all had at one point 😂

  • @pedrorandi
    @pedrorandi 2 роки тому +15

    Dudeeee, how did u go from the begginer tone to the professional tone besides lowering the gain?! Upgrading the pedals and amplifier or something?

    • @x.Mayhem
      @x.Mayhem 2 роки тому +5

      Don't bring the treble or bass to high and keep your mids in the mix, don't scoop your mids insanely, none of us are Dimebag Darrel lmao

    • @edthejester
      @edthejester 2 роки тому +4

      He inverted the eq. Punchy mid = you cut through the mix

    • @CutiePie232
      @CutiePie232 2 роки тому +1

      I'm beginner and would love to understand more. I use yamaha thr10ii

    • @KeepTheGates
      @KeepTheGates 2 роки тому +1

      No

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  2 роки тому +9

      Both are the same plugin. One is excessive. Lots of gain. Multiple boost pedals. One is dial back

  • @chrisking6695
    @chrisking6695 2 роки тому +24

    I'd categorize his professional guitar tone as a beginner guitar tone as well.

    • @rodrigomiranda9698
      @rodrigomiranda9698 2 роки тому

      Turn down for what!

    • @ROCKNROLLMODS
      @ROCKNROLLMODS 2 роки тому +1

      Layer 5 or so tracks with it, it'll be fine. The beginner tone is completely devoid of midrange, the entire band where the guitar sound lives. I think he's just saying not to scoop out all the good stuff.

    • @Tigerjunky93
      @Tigerjunky93 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s just a dry mix.

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 2 місяці тому

    The second sounds pretty good but the first one reminds me of old fashioned garage metal

  • @joeyaliofficial
    @joeyaliofficial 8 місяців тому

    The first one is muddier, where as the second cuts nicely and has some clarity around the edges, maybe more treble. I’d appreciate you showed us how you achieved the different sounds with you guitar and amp settings.

  • @timothywhitelock9855
    @timothywhitelock9855 2 роки тому +5

    Jamie came straight for my neck😂😂😂

  • @maxmcbeain
    @maxmcbeain 2 роки тому +3

    "if there was a single day I could live....." Love log

  • @Item-9
    @Item-9 5 місяців тому +1

    Noise gates and EQ are the secrets to great tone

  • @DeceptiveSS
    @DeceptiveSS 4 місяці тому

    My beginner tone was a Digitech RP 255 set to Mesa Boogie with random cab emulation plugged into Marshall CD-10. I do not remember which OD was used from RP's library, I only remember that I set a wah pedal on max settings and engaged it for extra grit without using the expression pedal.

  • @corevkid
    @corevkid 2 роки тому +3

    i use Boss katana 50 with something close to BFMV sound from Poison and i love it

    • @binsclim1805
      @binsclim1805 11 місяців тому

      What settings and/or pedals do you use to get your sound? I have a boss katana as well and am trying to get a nice good Metalcore like tone and BFMV is pretty damn Metalcore

  • @killjoy6391
    @killjoy6391 2 роки тому +3

    I mean the first tone is perfect for metallica’s kill em all album

  • @2011nikko
    @2011nikko Рік тому

    I love crunchy tones

  • @jaeden2806
    @jaeden2806 2 роки тому +4

    I'd love to upgrade my amp and use pedals etc but I haven't got a clue where to start. So used to using presets and just switching between them with a footswitch. I'd love to get a proper metal tone, knowing which pedals to use, where to put them and all that

    • @notgnar8506
      @notgnar8506 2 роки тому +4

      IMO amp is the most important, then pickups, then pedals. Try as much stuff as you can if you have a chance. The day I got a good amp was the day I started playing all day every day.

    • @jaeden2806
      @jaeden2806 2 роки тому

      @@notgnar8506 appreciate the advice thank you, spend too much thinking about it than trying. I'll make sure to start doing some research now:)

    • @notgnar8506
      @notgnar8506 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaeden2806 I was afraid a good amp would just amplify how shitty I was at the time, but it made me sound way better. I went with a DSL40c Marshall, if I had it to do over I wish I didn't get a combo but the amp is amazing.

    • @Max-The-Axe
      @Max-The-Axe 2 роки тому +1

      If you want a good metal amp look at brands such as: Mesa, Engl, Marshall, Peavey. I remember when I got my full stack it totally changed the game for me. If you’re looking at getting a real amp get a tube one you won’t regret jt. You could also go the digital route and get a rig like a line 6 helix or boss gt1000. I personally recommend at least checking both options out because with a digital rig you’ll have a bunch of amps built in plus effects(pedals). If you go digital it can be more user friendly with using effects and since you’re familiar with presets you could dial in some sweet metal tones. Obviously going the tube route is always fun cause you get that super huge amazing looking piece of gear that sounds better than anything you’ll ever hear.

    • @jaeden2806
      @jaeden2806 2 роки тому

      @@Max-The-Axe thank you, the one I have currently is a digital line 6, it isn't too bad but I've always wanted to venture onto something else. Once it's past a certain volume it just hisses and it's either too loud or too quiet. I've been looking at a dsl50, seen loads of good reviews. My dad has had loads of amps but I've never really messed around with them. I could imagine getting a good amp set up would just make you want to play more. I'll deffo have a look around:)

  • @mhabemoodyuo8750
    @mhabemoodyuo8750 2 роки тому +3

    how do we make sound like that of professional? can you make a video on that

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  2 роки тому +4

      Yeh! Dial the gain back a lot. Because you will be able to play more efficiently by then so you won’t need as much high gain

  • @thisdyingsoul76
    @thisdyingsoul76 2 місяці тому

    So true. That thin tone that appears to lack bottom is intended to sit perfectly in the mix. Begginers and bedroom players tend to over compensate for the fact there is no bassist filling out the sound.

  • @FEVERDREAM1983
    @FEVERDREAM1983 4 місяці тому

    This is why you always put an eq in the fx loop and a noise gate after your boost. First thing i do with any amp i buy. Then get a good OD like a maxon 808 or the precision drive to tighten the tone up and youre golden.

  • @randomuselessguy3009
    @randomuselessguy3009 Місяць тому

    For beginning all you needed was noise gate it sounded amazing ngl

  • @lim_jaheylol778
    @lim_jaheylol778 2 роки тому +11

    It's not a true beginner tone without the Metal Zone

    • @benjaminrapp7418
      @benjaminrapp7418 9 місяців тому +1

      The MT-2 is NOT a bad pedal. You just have to know how to use it. Hint: running it up front with gain dimed and mids scooped isn't correct. Ola Englund has a video showing how it's done. 😉

  • @chrismeadows4216
    @chrismeadows4216 2 роки тому +32

    I prefer the beginner tone, tbh. It sounds more like what people would've used starting out on their best albums, before they've begun getting better equipment and making worse music, as the trend usually goes. 😄

    • @chrisking6695
      @chrisking6695 2 роки тому +2

      So a band growing up and as result writing more mature music is worse than music filled with teenage angst? Smh.

    • @chrismeadows4216
      @chrismeadows4216 2 роки тому +4

      @@chrisking6695 you say that as if they all make mature music rather than phoned-in, streamlined material encouraged by their label in the throes of rushed content and a creative decline. 🙄😫

    • @vulcanicsix3111
      @vulcanicsix3111 2 роки тому +1

      @@chrismeadows4216 You sound extremely pretentious.

    • @chrismeadows4216
      @chrismeadows4216 2 роки тому +2

      @@vulcanicsix3111 not at all. If you take a moment to look at what the majority of people regard as the greatest works in music history, and it can be in any genre, more often than not, it's from an era where artists were using the most basic and simplistic equipment, and needed to write extraordinary things to compensate for the lack of tech. The most iconic albums, the albums that people would generally associate with amazing quality, were recorded fairly cheaply. Equipment back in the day wasn't as advanced as it is now. People were using tape, had few pedals, their guitars were expensive because there weren't many options available otherwise, and you'd have the most influential artists scraping things together with innovation. A lot of outstanding artists around now are making high-quality music without having the money to upgrade their gear. It's a lot more pretentious to insist that people need better equipment to sound appealing when, as Jamie and others prove, someone can pick up any instrument and bang out beautiful music in their creative peak.

    • @chrismeadows4216
      @chrismeadows4216 2 роки тому

      A lot of people, not all, do lose their drive as their career progresses, and pressures like label and fan expectations do affect them. They'll get more money to spend, but it doesn't usually benefit them, when they had all the time in the world to make their early music without deadlines and really make it impactful. My point is that I'm used to the sound of strong, provocative albums that bands can slave over and put more time into, which are almost always made before other people can start throwing feedback at them.

  • @TrymYoutubeMainChannel
    @TrymYoutubeMainChannel 3 місяці тому

    I currently have a Line 6 ... I feel that it works well enough some times but not always the easiest finding the right effect

  • @riokinsey2134
    @riokinsey2134 6 місяців тому

    PLEASE make a video detailing what you did and how to achieve this tone. Tons of people are interested man. Please help us out .

  • @melodica5407
    @melodica5407 2 роки тому +5

    Actually both are beginner's tone 😂

  • @brandynosborn3374
    @brandynosborn3374 2 роки тому +4

    The power of the all mighty Noise Gate!

  • @colinkelley6011
    @colinkelley6011 2 роки тому +2

    Mark Morton and Willie Adler = a killer riff all day everyday ! LOG ! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @Ollies_instruments2708
    @Ollies_instruments2708 День тому

    If there was a single day I could live…. 🔥🔥

  • @jacksonunruh5076
    @jacksonunruh5076 2 роки тому +2

    I actually liked the first better

  • @fcshadow5793
    @fcshadow5793 Рік тому +4

    *Cries in bad tone*

  • @davidspisak8720
    @davidspisak8720 8 місяців тому

    There’s a point where scooping the mids does you good but when you overdo it, you don’t get the sound you’re looking for. I’m also the kind of person that likes a full sound so I’ll turn the low end up more and sometimes dial back the treble if I need to but I also like the crunchy tone. For me, I like a balance between crunch and punch. Just enough treble for the crunch but also a good amount of low end to back it up.

  • @Derezzed00100
    @Derezzed00100 7 місяців тому

    that tone is just immaculate, just fucking amazing

  • @nazarf1884
    @nazarf1884 2 роки тому +10

    I bet u cant really hear his professional tone during live ✌️

    • @Hadouken5150
      @Hadouken5150 Рік тому +2

      Complete opposite. 5150s cut through a mix no problem.

  • @Nitsu_
    @Nitsu_ 2 роки тому +3

    Bruh what beginner plays pinch harmonics that well and doesn't know about noise gate-

    • @2174863
      @2174863 2 роки тому

      hes talking bout tone not skill…

  • @Distinguished_Djentlemen
    @Distinguished_Djentlemen 8 місяців тому

    Both tones were great😩🔥

  • @Zanenoth
    @Zanenoth День тому

    First tone sounds like the tin can riff before the whole band kicks in.

  • @rainbowedbelly
    @rainbowedbelly 2 роки тому +4

    Mans talking about professional tones while wearing a slip knot shirt 😶‍🌫️ I think the first tone sounded way better than the “professional” tone

  • @rolandlemus203
    @rolandlemus203 2 роки тому +3

    Doesn't it relate to what the musician is going for in a given song, style etc? I like the second one better tbh, BUT, as so many have stated, it's subjective to a point. The point stops when there is too much gain and the mix cannot survive lol....I have learned this the hard way. \m/:)

  • @user-tt9fb9sp3k
    @user-tt9fb9sp3k Рік тому +1

    How do I get tone like yours? The professional tone sounds so sharp! I'm currently struggling with lots of background noise because we don't have grounding at home, so lots of high-gain distortion plugins sound like a pile of steaming crap :(

  • @MegaRockinRolla
    @MegaRockinRolla 2 роки тому +4

    Not a fan of either tone

    • @x-Gingerbeard-x
      @x-Gingerbeard-x 2 роки тому +5

      Same. The ''Professional'' one sounds plastic... lifeless/sterile, very fizzy in the top end and lacking bottom end.

    • @roycelebumfacil8689
      @roycelebumfacil8689 2 роки тому

      well, idk, I love the overall pro dist, but yeah, it just cuts thru the mix too much

  • @dc_latername9064
    @dc_latername9064 8 місяців тому +4

    I have an amazing story if anyone's interested. One day I was driving home, when all of a sudden the Lord came to me in spirit. I felt very close to Him. I knew if I asked him to play any song on the radio he would, I guess to bless my faith.
    So I said "ok, Lord play "Come as you are by Nirvana".
    I turned on the radio and the song started playing right there on the spot, perfectly…
    I started getting flooded with chills like a waterfall, crying, and trembling.
    He stayed with me for 10 minutes in my driveway. until I got outta the car.
    A couple months after that I started getting amazing prayers answered way more often, because it helped me quit doubting when I pray and I was lined up with biblical instructions. It's 6 years later and I still get answered prayers in Jesus name.

    • @user-hn8ef6vx1l
      @user-hn8ef6vx1l 8 місяців тому

      Gee this god just loves to come to random fucks when they aren’t even looking for a revelation and grant them “proof” of his existence, and ignore people like me who genuinely searched and went to church and attempted prayer for months looking for answers or signs.

  • @MusicianStuff
    @MusicianStuff Рік тому

    Eliminate any ground noise issue, use good quality cable and audio interface, use noise gate, put proper amount of gain, then try to get tight chug 👍🏻

  • @mrshadow5132
    @mrshadow5132 3 місяці тому

    My dream tone.

  • @HenryAnimate
    @HenryAnimate Рік тому

    They both sound good

  • @jasonmorris1476
    @jasonmorris1476 3 місяці тому

    You should do a video on how you transitioned from the first to the second

  • @LucifersBeard332
    @LucifersBeard332 6 місяців тому

    Gain sits around 20% and I use an overdrive like most others I assume. Mids are a little scooped and adjust the EQ a bit for a decent tone. You want to hear the notes.

  • @AlexanderMusicReal
    @AlexanderMusicReal Місяць тому

    Some guitarist think that high gain and more loud equals heavier tones or better but its opposite. Dial in a good tone that doesnt sound muddy. My perfect metal tone is gain at 4, treble at 7, mids at 3, bass at 4. With my amp at least. Im not gonna go into the pedals and fx i use

  • @lauphingman4699
    @lauphingman4699 6 місяців тому

    First of all jamie, long time fan, may you slay for the decades to come brother.
    I would like to see a pedal comparison from you. Personally im a mt-2 guy.

  • @speedfreakjive8843
    @speedfreakjive8843 6 днів тому

    Don't fear the mids 👌

  • @sixtysecondsofshred
    @sixtysecondsofshred 10 місяців тому +1

    I am still waiting for Neural DSP to do a line 6 spider (the black one) plugin so I can finally use the 'insane' mode again. Gain on full. Mids to 0, treble and bass on full. Sorted.

  • @godzilla964
    @godzilla964 8 місяців тому

    Scooped mids work when you have an eq pedal in the effects loop.

  • @oknotokmaybenot
    @oknotokmaybenot Рік тому

    So clean

  • @wilrasmussen5005
    @wilrasmussen5005 Місяць тому

    That first tone sounds like the actual song

  • @1tzelG_
    @1tzelG_ 4 місяці тому

    isn't about applying the highest gain possible, it's about using the right settings, amps, OD's, and Eq's. ;3 nice comparison.

  • @Manuelelcholo2
    @Manuelelcholo2 2 роки тому

    Dude you look good! BTW you are my fav guitarrist on youtube since a couple of years!

  • @pinkled4429
    @pinkled4429 9 місяців тому

    I like pushing mids and treble while cutting out the bass.
    The first two maiden albums have my favourite tones ever

  • @jaredmeier1438
    @jaredmeier1438 2 роки тому +1

    You are a bad ass jamieslays. Love your vids

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  2 роки тому

      🙏

    • @jaredmeier1438
      @jaredmeier1438 2 роки тому

      @@JamieSlayswow didn't expect that. You play all my favs and you are a legend makes me feel good about still learning my guitar.

  • @CoreyCaudle-mp7zn
    @CoreyCaudle-mp7zn 25 днів тому +1

    I’m telling you I’ve heard a $200 guitar sound like a 2k guitar with just a pedal and a mid range amp.

  • @jimjimmy7365
    @jimjimmy7365 Рік тому +1

    Is that the Harley benton ex84? I bought one 2 years ago just for fun and honestly it’s plays and sounds better than all my $1000 guitars by far . It’s strange but true I love that thing

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  Рік тому

      Yehhhh

    • @jimjimmy7365
      @jimjimmy7365 Рік тому +1

      @@JamieSlays nice, and thank you very much I would have never bought one until I saw your video. Thanks again and look forward to watching more of your content , it’s great.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  Рік тому

      @@jimjimmy7365 aww thanks bro it’s so cool

  • @marshallproboiz
    @marshallproboiz 2 роки тому

    Goodluck man,i like all your video!

  • @Cheese-ud1ln
    @Cheese-ud1ln 4 дні тому

    i love your slipknot shirt

  • @Tinyroomrocks
    @Tinyroomrocks 5 місяців тому +2

    Reminds me of when we got a bedroom guitarist is my old band I had spend 2 months teaching him about how all the bottom end he heard on a record was actually the bass and the guitat needs more mids and less bass..
    H

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  5 місяців тому

      Exactly! Funny isn’t it

    • @Nothing13484
      @Nothing13484 5 місяців тому

      @@JamieSlays hey I have a question what song is this?

  • @Vikas839vm
    @Vikas839vm 2 роки тому

    How to achieve professionalism 🤘

  • @skytrology
    @skytrology 2 роки тому +2

    Lamb of god 🤘🏻

  • @THESTRUGGLER95
    @THESTRUGGLER95 9 місяців тому +1

    Didn’t have sound on but I knew right off the bat what song you were playing