5 Guitars ALL Beginners MUST AVOID! (Here's Why)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 378

  • @veenoir1991
    @veenoir1991 9 місяців тому +449

    I'd say telling someone they have to play acoustic first is like telling someone if you want to have a motor on a boat, you have to sail first.....lol motorboat

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +10

      😂 brilliant

    • @pacovl46
      @pacovl46 9 місяців тому +23

      Well, you can start with whatever you want. If you know you wanna play only electric then start with that, but from my own experience, I started out on an acoustic because that was what was available to me and when I got my first electric guitar playing that felt like a breeze because the action is lower and the fingerboard is narrower, but I appreciate the acoustic for making me spread my fingers more and for giving me better finger strength as well. So there is definitely an advantage on starting out on an acoustic, despite the fact that it’s tougher initially.
      Having said that, you shouldn’t be looking at it like playing either/or, you should play both because they both have different qualities to be appreciated.
      The trick to get around getting blisters is to simply stop as soon as your finger tips hurt and play again the next day and stop again when they start to hurt. That way you will get nice calluses without the hassle.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +14

      @@pacovl46 exactly! But I’m going off of experience where people say you HAVE to start with an acoustic as that’s what beginners do :)

    • @pacovl46
      @pacovl46 9 місяців тому +3

      @@JamieSlaysit’s definitely not carved in stone! 🤪

    • @pacovl46
      @pacovl46 9 місяців тому +4

      Come to think of it, the only thing you really have to do is shit, piss and breathe, the rest is optional! 🤪

  • @SuperJohan64
    @SuperJohan64 9 місяців тому +150

    Great advice for beginners. I think a video about amps/pedals/accessories would also be helpful for people that are just starting out. Maybe you could even touch on inputs and plugins.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +14

      Yeh! Great idea!

    • @Skaarxiong1
      @Skaarxiong1 9 місяців тому

      i think Positive Grid solved that problem. if a beginner can, they should get a Positive Grid because on the apps, there's pedals and different amps and a beginner who don't have the budget to get all that stuff, can use it digitally. plus, they can learn what those pedals do and why you use them. i should know, because i'm still learning and i got a Positive Grid Spark and Go, now i'm saving up some money so i can buy the real amps and pedals.

  • @splitzerx570
    @splitzerx570 9 місяців тому +42

    Best message for beginners guitarist if you were to ask me is to DON’T STOP BELIEVING! But seriously when I was starting out like a year or two back I was feeling defeated all the time and felt I was wasting my time, but that never stopped me, I still enjoyed the sounds I was making whether they were basic or not. Now basically two years ahead I’m playing some of my favourite solos with great sound and even improvising decently with a couple of different scales as well as making some nice sounding chord progressions.
    Despite all, if you want to play guitar, then play guitar and you will become better!

    • @zerixor8134
      @zerixor8134 9 місяців тому

      Definetily. Although i would also add that you should also try and find what type of guitar playing you enjoy playing since it might be different from what you want to play when you first started out. For example when i first started playing guitar i wanted to learn how to shred and play difficult and fast leads and solos. After a while i realized that it wasnt for me and that i enjoyed simpler grungier rythm guitar riffs instead. The most important thing is that you have fun and enjoy it because then you will keep at it and improve over time.

    • @BCastless
      @BCastless 9 місяців тому

      I'm hoping you're right! I just got mine today, and I can't wait to start strumming along to my favourite songs. Even though I'm having trouble with my hand placement and keeping the speed fast enough for it to sound like a song when I try to play very basic beginning tunes, I'm going to keep practising every day in the hopes that I'll be able to play my favourite songs someday.

    • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
      @DJSockmonkeyMusic 9 місяців тому +1

      Oops wrong comment thread.
      However, YAY! welcome to guitars dude. Just keep practising, everything gets easier with time. Pretty soon you won't even have to think about chord shapes, they'll just happen when you think it, so keep up your practise, learn some songs, and you'll get there. I've been playing since 1987, and I'm always improving.

    • @beefnacos6258
      @beefnacos6258 9 місяців тому

      Year or two 😂. It took me forever to finally start playing competently

    • @erikjonsson1519
      @erikjonsson1519 Місяць тому

      I started on acoustic and is getting a seven string that is fairly cheap but it is just grind and grind and grind til I become good at it

  • @spastickitchen
    @spastickitchen 9 місяців тому +51

    Great advice. One note: the EVH d tuna doesn't work on floating trems. EVH used a nonfloating floyd rose, so slacking the tuning on one string didn't off-balance the trem. If it's floating, you'd still have to adjust sping tension...

    • @bagaspratama440
      @bagaspratama440 9 місяців тому

      Yes true, EVH d tuna are scam

    • @chrisbrown6472
      @chrisbrown6472 9 місяців тому

      You are correct. But, placing a block underneath the tremolo system will keep the d tuna in tune, but yeah it does prevent you from pulling up. It is easily taken back out if you miss the up action. Also, you can set the tuning screws on the E to be able to tune down before you lock down the nut, although my old Kahler was easier to set up for that and string changes. :)

    • @chrisbrown6472
      @chrisbrown6472 9 місяців тому

      The dtuna actually works great, you just have to be told about the block thing. I was unaware until I was talking to the repair guy about a few things.

    • @connormorse9191
      @connormorse9191 9 місяців тому

      ​@@bagaspratama440not a scam... works great you just have to block the trem off

  • @cristianorentroia6607
    @cristianorentroia6607 9 місяців тому +22

    i don't recommend 6 string guitars, i suggest 4 string guitars. 6 is too confusing to learn.

  • @jimvandemoter6961
    @jimvandemoter6961 9 місяців тому +11

    You make some great points and I agree with you on every one. I'm 71 years old and I started playing guitar in 1961 when I was 9 years old. I also taught guitar over thirty years. I started on an electric and I always recommended to parents to start their kids on an electric. There are some great kits out there with everything you need to get started by Squire, Ibanez and others. Also, avoid on line kits, go to a music store and talk with real guitar players. I still play, not as much as I used to, but I'm as active as I can be.

  • @JC-uy4yj
    @JC-uy4yj 9 місяців тому +27

    I completely agree about the acoustic guitars. I remember having the same mindset and someone from the shop that I was trying acoustic guitars out said "if you play amazing on acoustic, you'll be an amazing electric player". They are different instruments.

    • @marcvolgers8352
      @marcvolgers8352 9 місяців тому +1

      If someone wants to play acoustic, I advice to start with a classic/spanish guitar. Steel string is just not a good starter.

    • @Quusikko
      @Quusikko 9 місяців тому

      I thought about that acoustic thing when Jamie mentioned it and the only reason I can think of to start with an acoustic is that if you can learn to play it clean (minimizing all excess noises), you'll maybe have a good touch to play electric.
      Don't know if it even works like that but it's just something that came to mind.

  • @pedrovianna2917
    @pedrovianna2917 9 місяців тому +12

    I think the better analogy would be: "In order to drive a car,You need to learn to drive a bike." Similar things (Maybe),But not interchangeable.

  • @cesarvelasquez3186
    @cesarvelasquez3186 9 місяців тому +10

    A couple of extra advises i would give to a begginer on elrctric guitar is to buy a set of thiner gauge strings (8s or 9s) and pay a bit of extra money on a reputable luthier to get a proper set up, a good guitar setup is, in my opinion, very overlooked and can be a game changer specially for a begginer. Having 11s or 12s on standard tunning with ultra high action can be discouraging for a begginer that does not know better and has to fight every chord to make it sound...

  • @7xchad
    @7xchad 9 місяців тому +16

    I agree that acoustics aren't great for learning on due to more physical difficulty to play, but they're great for practice as they build strength and stamina which improves speed, and they don't hide sloppy technique which improves precision.
    Anyways, gonna go jammon my 7 string acoustic!

  • @lonelyskiesguitarcover9941
    @lonelyskiesguitarcover9941 9 місяців тому +28

    In my own experience, my first guitar is a RR Jackson with a Floyd Rose tremolo and I agree that changing strings and tunes is a challenging work.
    I personally don’t recommend it for beginners.
    But hey, everyone has a shredding hero and wanted to play guitar like them, or at least play guitar hero in their youth. 😅 (My reason for picking a guitar with a tremolo bridge and I still want another one)

    • @mauriciosalinas8849
      @mauriciosalinas8849 9 місяців тому +2

      Hi, same to me 😅 im a begginer and i get a Jackson Japan with a Floyd Rose and a Ltd GH 600 Gary Holt signature. Van Halen,Randy Rhoads and Gary Holt are my guitarheroes

    • @leohmaggot
      @leohmaggot 9 місяців тому +2

      same here... my first guitar is also a V with a Floyd Rose... daaaamn the time i was spending on tuning that XD

    • @iceblade019
      @iceblade019 9 місяців тому +2

      Same story, my first is a Jackson Kelly with Floyd 😂

    • @mauriciosalinas8849
      @mauriciosalinas8849 9 місяців тому +2

      We all agree that we doesn't respect begginer rules😂

    • @leohmaggot
      @leohmaggot 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mauriciosalinas8849 begginer rules didn't gave us stylish points 😅

  • @allendean9807
    @allendean9807 9 місяців тому +13

    I totally agree with starting off on a hardtail electric. Many older bands, like Metallica’s first three albums, were oddly tuned, because of being recorded to tape. If a song was dragging, they’d speed them up a bit, and the tuning ended up sharp. Being able to tune to the song is of paramount importance.
    As to cheap guitars, often kids don’t get the choice. I got my first electric- a lefty Hondo Lp copy- by mom and dad, from the Sears and Roebuck catalogue! Made from laminated plywood with a maple veneer, it was garbage! But i wish i had that thing! And it was great to mod. I added super D in the bridge and a splittable Duncan jazz in the neck. It had a pretty good neck, and the frets were decent. But it made me work for it. And i think that helped my resolve.
    Acoustic- if you do get one, i suggest Orangewood. They are cheap, really easy to play, and if you hate it, it’ll look good on the wall!

  • @bezerah3695
    @bezerah3695 9 місяців тому +19

    I want to share this since this video is still new! As someone that started on acoustic because my mom at time time didn’t have the funds for an electric set up I played acoustic now that i own an electric and acoustic im realizing there’s a lot of bad habits I picked up on acoustic that mess up my playing on electric and it’s something I’m learning to fix. So yeah just wanted to share my experience having played both and having started on acoustic.

    • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
      @DJSockmonkeyMusic 9 місяців тому +1

      I found that my early acoustic practise made me a pretty diverse and flexible guitarist, but I barely touch acoustics these days.
      I agree about everything else in the video. No lockers! Yes humbuckers! Super cheap and super expensive guitars are both a waste of money! There's good quality out there for very low prices, but it will need finishing and setting up! And start on a standard instrument, 6 string guitar!
      But the acoustic thing, I think it's mostly economics that determines that, or at least it was for everyone I know. All the rich kids had fender and Gibson, the middle class kids had Ibanez and Marshall combos, the poor kids had acoustics and the welfare kids had nylon stringed "classical" guitars.
      I was a poor kid, my first guitar was my Mum's church guitar (she plays chords) a Gibson Hummingbird clone. It sounded terrible unless it had brand new strings on it, although I've seen (and owned) worse, and at the time is was still a $500 guitar in Australia. I'd been playing for 6 years (with borrowed gear at gigs) before I had my own guitar and amp. But I learned every song from the first 4 Pantera albums on that acoustic.

  • @johngriffon2118
    @johngriffon2118 9 місяців тому +8

    I got an acoustic for my first guitar. I just liked the sound of the acoustic, but I also wanted to learn electric later in and thought learning on an acoustic would help. It did, but yeah electric and acoustic are two very different instruments and I can tell learning on acoustic has influenced how I play the electric.

  • @Whizzinby777
    @Whizzinby777 9 місяців тому +17

    The thing about starting with an acoustic is that by not being able to hide behind noise, your picking and fretting accuracy will be more apparent. Also, a beginner acoustic player doesn’t have to worry about determining what sort of electric guitar to buy yet, much less an amp, pedals, cables, straps, or having to deal with volume control or portability issues. I agree you don’t have to start with one, but it’s probably the cheapest and most sensible option.

    • @AwkwardHypernerd413
      @AwkwardHypernerd413 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah the acoustic will always be cheaper because you don’t need to buy the extra shit to make it work.

    • @ehMMMKay
      @ehMMMKay 9 місяців тому +1

      in my old-school view, if you cannot get over learning basic chords and rhythms on an acoustic, you're not worthy the extra costs of switching to an electric, any average bedroom player (can play chords, solid rhythms, riffs and some basic solos) should be able to play both acoustic and an electric, and are kind of expected to own both :D

  • @whodoyouwanna
    @whodoyouwanna 9 місяців тому +5

    When I was a beginner in the late 90s, I made some of these mistakes. 1st guitar- an acoustic. First electric guitar has a Floyd Rose. And it had a humbucker because I prefer the look of it rather than 3 single coils. lol. Discovering bands like Carcass and Unleashed helped to make the learning curve steeper. It was a learning journey. No regrets.

  • @JemHawkes
    @JemHawkes 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for a great video. It's like you live in my head. Currently experiencing regret at the 11s on my Floyd Rose Jems which I don't know how to change back to slinkys. Great advice.

  • @irisdantas861
    @irisdantas861 5 місяців тому

    good arguments + fun video, that’s it, you’re my fav guitar content creator :)

  • @PHILLY214
    @PHILLY214 9 місяців тому +1

    Acoustic is a good way to start so you can have a clean sound and hear what you play, it toughens you up so you can shred

  • @holzy2360
    @holzy2360 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video!, I personally would recommend the jackson js22 as a first metal guitar.

  • @alecthomas33
    @alecthomas33 9 місяців тому +3

    Good advice. I think my best tip is to not get a weird shaped guitar for your first one. No flying V, BC rich, most dean guitars, explorers aren't too bad. You're going to learn to play sitting down, and those are meant to be played standing up. You're going to have a tough time focusing on playing when the guitar is sliding all over in your lap. Just my experience anyway

  • @kaield4763
    @kaield4763 9 місяців тому +1

    my first guitar was Buz McGraths signature 7 string model from ltd. I had one of those cheap Costco strats before that which I don't really count as a guitar. The jump in quality was crazy but the floyd rose, active pickups, locking nut, wider neck, etc. was hell to try and make good sound out of. It took me over a year of solid practice to make a simple solo sound clean. I would say a guitar like this is a good idea for beginners if they are determined but they wouldn't have any guitar experience yet so it'd be hard to say if they'd stick with it.

  • @nickshepley2566
    @nickshepley2566 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Jamie 🤘🏼Good content
    I’d love to see your thoughts on recording metal music as a total beginner (DAWs, Interfaces, Troubleshooting and even making a UA-cam video)

  • @driverben8604
    @driverben8604 9 місяців тому +1

    One thing I'd point out for beginners to avoid is high action on the strings. It's something more common on cheap guitars but it's a discouragement to continue practicing when there's an inch gap between the strings and fretboard

  • @normalwhiteguy1555
    @normalwhiteguy1555 9 місяців тому +5

    Acoustic builds strength and dexterity quickly

    • @MrChopsticktech
      @MrChopsticktech 9 місяців тому +1

      So does bass guitar. Warm up on bass for 1/2 hour, then electric guitar strings feel like rubber bands.

    • @declanfitzpatrick8268
      @declanfitzpatrick8268 5 місяців тому

      ​@@MrChopsticktechSo, buy a bass, along with your first guitar then? 😂

  • @NewLifeWithGuitar
    @NewLifeWithGuitar 9 місяців тому +10

    This was super insightful. I only started learning how to play the guitar 6 weeks ago & I'm documenting my entire learning journey on here so this was really helpful & motivational!

  • @righty-o3585
    @righty-o3585 9 місяців тому +3

    Learning on an acoustic does teach the player to be more precise with their finger placement so not to accidentally mute strings with their fretting hand. Which is all around beneficial 😁

  • @robertvargas6636
    @robertvargas6636 9 місяців тому

    Solid advice, Rock on.

  • @molekyyli
    @molekyyli 9 місяців тому +2

    I started on a Floyd but I did my homework meaning I had an idea what I’m getting to and accepted the challenges. The challenge I didn’t expect was finding out that there’s so many bad guitar techs. 😂 After two failed setups (both with a trem leaning backwards, not flush (it’s a LoPro but come on, it’s been on the market for like 30 years!) I fixed it myself.
    But I do understand most beginners won’t wanna have to deal with this. And for me, the right solution for using more tunings is to have a guitar for every tuning, no matter if it’s a hard tail or a Floyd. 😂 I’ve worked (so far) on stuff from E standard to drop B and I wouldn’t wanna retune 9-46 to drop B. 😅

  • @GuitarsAndTea
    @GuitarsAndTea 9 місяців тому

    Great advice, thanks 🤘

  • @seanwechsler6783
    @seanwechsler6783 6 місяців тому +1

    I started out with an acoustic. Your so right on it being a difficult guitar for beginners with all the extra tension needed. But I’m not gonna lie, once I got my first electric after that, playing metal style music suddenly is so much easier on the fingers and relaxing.
    What I’m saying is, it’s sometimes okay to knock out building finger strength early.

  • @StevDoesBigJumps
    @StevDoesBigJumps 9 місяців тому

    My first and current electric is a diy kit. There's still work to be done on it, frets still aren't quite levelled entirely right on the lower three strings, so I compensate by having them quite high in the nut, compared to the high strings or run banana neck. Middle pickup came out of phase for some reason, so I also gotta flip its leads whenever I take the strings off again, which sucks because it's a shielded wire, and I don't know if I can take the shell apart without breaking it. Plays pretty nicely in spite of all that though, according to my mate who's actually half decent at guitar, by mortal standards.

  • @unknownzone90s7
    @unknownzone90s7 9 місяців тому

    Great video! I'm planning on buying my first electric guitar November 24

  • @admonius9668
    @admonius9668 9 місяців тому

    Loving the sylosis shirt! Ironically this video came up whilst I was listening to architects

  • @seyrnahd
    @seyrnahd 9 місяців тому +2

    Great points - If you mainly listen to something heavier, then yeah learning on an acoustic guitar is probably not the best move as your main inspiration and influences are not acoustic sounds. That said in terms of ease of playing etc... yeah an electric is more beginner friendly in terms of pain tolerance, but I can think of some merits in learning on an acoustic guitar e.g your fretting, chord technique, wrist strength and strumming will be more on point as the acoustic forces it more so imo.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 9 місяців тому

      I would actually recommend electric. Partially for ease of use, partially for developing clean playing. I avoided playing electric for literally decades because I couldn't make it sound clean enough - the acoustic guitar hides a lot of extraneous noise, even when played plugged in. Even now I still have to accept that when I'm playing cleanly I will hear artifacts because of sensitivity or injection. Now it's a process of mapping the things I hear in my mind over the imperfections of reality, which is a constant effort until my mental muscle memory integrates and understands it well enough to put it on autopilot.

  • @Guitarist19887
    @Guitarist19887 9 місяців тому +2

    I wanted to learn ‘nothing else matters’ so I got an acoustic but after that I just bought electric after hours learning it and practicing blues etc, the finger strength did help from acoustic.

  • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
    @AWMJoeyjoejoe 9 місяців тому +2

    My first guitar was an epiphone Les Paul standard. Really heavy, terrible upper fret access, super high action, but I loved it. I regret selling it to this day.

  • @cet777
    @cet777 9 місяців тому

    Pretty much on the money! Great video! 🤘🏼😎

  • @endergamer.mp4
    @endergamer.mp4 9 місяців тому +1

    Man, I wish I had this video when I bought my first guitar. I bought a single coil strat about a year ago, just to learn metal songs on it. It sounds so terrible, but I managed to learn a few songs and techniques on it. The jack input snapped one day and now can't play it through my amp anymore. I'm gonna save up 5o get another one soon with the humbuckers pickups.

  • @PhreakOvicH
    @PhreakOvicH 9 місяців тому

    Hey Jamie! Could we get a new video on your guitar collection? Im pretty sure you got a few new guitars since the last video 😉

  • @Pasta__Lover
    @Pasta__Lover 9 місяців тому

    are the recommended guitar models in your tool kit also available in left handed?

  • @pzuliomaccavellion9711
    @pzuliomaccavellion9711 9 місяців тому +5

    Also......if your guitar comes with a tremolo bar, just leave it in the bag until you can actually play some guitar! Until then, it's a distraction!

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +1

      Haha yeh too true. Bowoonggggggggg

  • @nyguy5370
    @nyguy5370 9 місяців тому +1

    My first guitar was a cheap nylon string acoustic. I would love to have bypassed that phase. I also agree that a 7=string for a beginner would be hard, but by playing a 7 string I gained a lot technically. Also agree on the Floyd Rose. I love how it stays in tune, but man, I hate dealing with that thing and I’ve been playing for almost 50 years. I can’t in good faith tell someone not to buy a Strat or Les Paul that has single coil pickups. I’ve had both through the years and loved them. As for cheap…..when I got my first electric at 12 years old, with money saved from my paper route….I bought a Guild S65. It had a single
    humbucker that was sooooo weak. Wish I had the money for the version with a Dimarzio. Despite that, I played it for a few years until I could afford something better. It did the trick.

  • @braxtonstegall7013
    @braxtonstegall7013 9 місяців тому

    just bought a PRS SE 24 Custom and i love it.

  • @ClassicTVMan1981X
    @ClassicTVMan1981X 9 місяців тому

    Would you also not recommend the Gibson J-200 "super jumbo" acoustic in your list?

  • @sadpotato7029
    @sadpotato7029 9 місяців тому +1

    as for the 7 string stuff, i think yeah if you're just playing in drop a then 6 string will do. a 25.5" scale length 6 string can handle that tuning pretty well. anything lower than that, then maybe that's where you need to consider getting a 7 string, or a baritone 6 string. also i've seen a lot of people playing a most generic looking stratocaster in their thall songs and it sounds amazing. their secret? definitely pitch shifter

  • @jimjoebob2269
    @jimjoebob2269 9 місяців тому

    Very good video I agree on all points but the Floyd Rose... when using a EVH D Tuna it has to be blocked so as long as you block the trem, tuning and keeping the trem straight shouldn't be that much of an issue.

  • @jpicard81
    @jpicard81 9 місяців тому

    My aunt got me some cheap acoustic for Christmas in 88-89. I would play Mary had a little lamb like crazy 3-2-1-2-3-3-3 etc. Little did I know I was building dexterity for when I actually started to take it seriously in early 2000s. Internet tabs were a game changer for me as well.

  • @eerotamminen9325
    @eerotamminen9325 9 місяців тому +1

    As a dude with passion for guitar, I've been playin for around 1,5 years now, and I got my first floyd about 5 months ago, and yes, all what you said might be true but I think that floyd rose is worth it, even as a beginner, just if you got the right mentality, ans yes, it is pain to change strings and tune and change tension of the springs but I love it, its such a good feature

  • @DJSockmonkeyMusic
    @DJSockmonkeyMusic 9 місяців тому +1

    With regard to floating tremolos.
    I have been playing since 1987. I've owned many floating tremolo guitars, all slightly different. And I have an Ibanez RG Moonburst with Zero Edge floating trem shown in the video. I love it, its so beautiful, although I want to replace the single coil pickup in the middle position, probably with something super hot (high output). I haven't replaced the pickup (I have dozens in my drawer of pickups, SDs, EMG, a set of lace sensors, all sorts) is that I don't want to restring the floating trem. Lol.
    It holds tune beautifully, but it takes like 3 days to restring it and get it tuned again. String stretch, ugh! I end up spending a week on top with an allen key permanently in one hand....
    You kinda need to learn an entire trade if you want to be a floating trem guy and not have to pay a hundred bucks for every new set of strings. They're wonderful to play when they're set up right, a nightmare to play when wrong, and technical skills are required to make them play right, despite the manufacturers best efforts.
    I think most people would honestly be best off with fixed bridges, whether saddle and tail piece type, blocked strat type or just topmount fixed bridge. I've even seen them with precision cut intonation in wrap around and through hole types. And then a tremolo pedal, and for whammy stuff, the Digitech pedals.
    Seriously, try blocking your strat trem. A little block of maple big enough to hold your trem at a height you're happy with (I like mine basically flat against the body), then loosen the spring claw until the strings pull the bridge body firmly against the wood block. Any hardwood will work, but maple is the cheapest where I am. The stability and feel of the strings completely changes, and theres some evidence to auggest that you may improve sustain too. I have 2 of my 3 strat style guitars blocked with maple, a block made of offcuts glued into a bigger piece, then cut to size.
    If you have a luthier near you, ask them if they have any scrap body wood. It'll only be small pieces and you'll have to get crafty, but for me, nearly 80% of the joy of guitar is in the maintaining and personalising my instruments. (But i was a guitar tech in highschool, my second highschool job and again later in life, plus audio production school and short pro guitar career while also working as a tech part time) so my perspective might be skewed. The only thing that makes me happier than playing guitar is working on my guitar.

    • @amandahuginkiss6868
      @amandahuginkiss6868 9 місяців тому

      I started a little later, and being able to change the strings on the FR yourself goes a long way. Learning how to change them is frustrating, and might even cost you a little in broken strings, but it is worth knowing how to do if you own a floating trem guitar. I think Sweetwater has a how to on their website about changing out strings on a Floyd that is all stuff you had to figure out by trial and error 30 years ago when the Internet wasn't around,

  • @brandonbrinegar5316
    @brandonbrinegar5316 9 місяців тому +1

    Learning to play acoustic first builds technique which carries over to the electric.

  • @phreak1118
    @phreak1118 9 місяців тому +1

    I agree with the acoustic thing... all my friends started with acoustics. They lasted maybe a month and quit. I started with an electric and I am still playing 30+ years later.

  • @moffa1644
    @moffa1644 9 місяців тому

    Yea pretty good advice. Also locking nuts and a evertune bridge are probly not necessary.
    My first guitar was a ibanez rga42fm all blacked out. Puckups were ok but the wizard neck was nice to start out with. But now I have way to many guitars. My esp and solar are very much favourite.

  • @_ed00_
    @_ed00_ 9 місяців тому +1

    right here in Brazil this thing of starting in the acoustic guitar is very common, the major part of the guitarrists that i know started like this, including myself

  • @kylex6270
    @kylex6270 9 місяців тому +2

    my first guitar was a pink libanez with pink glitter :)

  • @kreepthedestroyer
    @kreepthedestroyer 9 місяців тому +2

    One of my first guitars was a universe total nightmare and never used it due to the Floyd style bridge and a 7 string. Glad I didn't sell it though

  • @user-rg1ws1sv7r
    @user-rg1ws1sv7r 8 місяців тому

    and here i am with my first guitar, a rg350dxz with a edge zero 2 bridge which is a floyd rose (kinda)
    can't drop tune and i have to go to the shop for changing stings....
    BUT it looks super badass and sounds gorgeous with emg pickups
    im a happy man

  • @thomashalley7258
    @thomashalley7258 9 місяців тому +1

    If you get a acoustic you have to get it restrung with lighter strings cause they came with 12s or 13s usually.

  • @NoelWesley
    @NoelWesley 9 місяців тому

    I totally agree with ditching starting with an acoustic. I have hypermobility in my fingers making my grip strength pretty weak. I started playing 30 years ago when I was 16 and I still have trouble on acoustic with open chords. Forget barre chords, I can't sound them right. The hypermobility is due to defective collagen so even forming calluses sucks. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean crap. My Tanglewood Les Paul cost £160 30 years ago and is an absolute beast. I don't need a Gibson or Epiphone because it's so good.

  • @tiltedhorizon1435
    @tiltedhorizon1435 8 місяців тому

    I've always been pretty split on the whole topic of whether or not a beginner should start with an acoustic or an electric. I definitely agree that acoustics are definitely harder to play that electrics; however, the benefit is, if you start off on an acoustic and get somewhat proficient with it like general chord shapes and maybe a scale or two, when you do finally go to pick up an electric, it's going to feel so smooth and much easier to play. You're used to thicker strings and applying more pressure, your callouses have built up a bit quicker and stronger, so everything on the electric will feel so much easier. But this could also have a reverse effect for some people where the change in string gauges and applied pressure could throw them off for a bit. It's also a lot more difficult to play riffs that have a lot of hammer ons and pull offs on an acoustic for beginners, whereas on an electric you can practically play without hardly ever picking with your right hand and hear everything consistently.
    You can get a decent acoustic and a Squire Starter Set with both an electric and an Amp for around the same price...give or take $100 depending on what you're getting, so cost isn't really a debating point when it comes to beginners, but you can lug an acoustic around and play on the fly a little bit easier than you can an electric, and for someone who is just starting out and wanting to practice a lot, this could be a selling point. With that being said, technology has come a long ways and it's quite inexpensive to get a little portable amp speaker for your electric. Matter of fact, I recently found one on Amazon for $30 that has a clean and an overdrive channel and runs on a 6 hour rechargeable battery that surprisingly sounds really good.

  • @TristanL585
    @TristanL585 9 місяців тому

    The first guitar I bought was recent in the last few days or so, and it was a Les Paul Epiphone traditional pro ebony and got a Marshall mg30dfx amp with boost button and fx, delay and reverb sounds. I’m getting back into it though. I originally played for 5 yrs and had cheap stuff so this time I spent a $1000 on a better more professional guitar and amp

  • @edms3656
    @edms3656 9 місяців тому

    First guitar was an ibanez with a floating trem, it was such a pain in the ass to tune or restring, i learned about the quarter trick from an EVH video and just kept it in for years, my current jackson has a FLoyd in it, first time i changed strings i shoved a block in the back and kept the trem from moving. best decision i ever made, it was a deal at the pawn shop,

  • @supersavagegodgaming6888
    @supersavagegodgaming6888 9 місяців тому

    Im a beginner and got an ibanez rg with floyd rose Bridge and yeah i do see the issues with down tuning the guitar but man i still love it most song im playing now is standard e tuning.

  • @dannyortega6454
    @dannyortega6454 4 місяці тому

    My first guitar a les paul night fall I just had to sit down and just learn how to set it up cause I wasn't getting another one it is a head ache at first but if you wana chug out the box get a fixed bridge guitar definitely

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner 9 місяців тому +4

    Get a guitar that works. Too many beginners buy the first cheapest thing they see and when it doesn't work right they don't know what to do to fix it or even if it's just them. Make sure your tools are at least usable. I bought my kids one of those Fender 149 USD guitar/amp bundles and the guitar was so flimsy you didn't need a trem to dive bomb - it played at least but it always felt like it was made of matchsticks and going to just come apart on you for no reason. The amp is still alive and fine while the guitar is long gone - maybe that's another point for beginners: DON'T BUY A TUBE AMP.

  • @Typeonegitivefan
    @Typeonegitivefan 9 місяців тому

    off topic but hey jamie what size is your gauges? im at a 25mm i want to go bigger..

  • @Andrewhensley5150
    @Andrewhensley5150 9 місяців тому

    Hey, real strats (designed on the original) will have the middle pickup sound backwards. So when you have it between bottom and middle or neck and middle it’s a Humbucker

  • @scottishbawbag315
    @scottishbawbag315 9 місяців тому

    had captions on, apparantly i have a 'freud toaster' floating trem. lol

  • @harshtruth9148
    @harshtruth9148 9 місяців тому

    I remember in 92 I got my first guitar, USA fender strat SSS and never understood why it was humming like crazy through my fender tube amp and just didnt sound like those GNR records....had no clue about humbuckers, tubes, tunings, nothing I was 12 and just loved loud music......I cherish those days though because my father, a great man, took it upon himself to buy his son an American Strat, my boy dont play mexican strats, and bought me the nicest Fender 2x12 (mind you my dad was clueless to guitars and music)......I wish I still had those 2 pieces of gear today, what a great dad I have.

  • @slimshady3116
    @slimshady3116 9 місяців тому

    I started listening to Rock and metal exactly a year ago, thanks to a friend I met, I got HEAVILY into it and at first, for three months or 4, I played a classical guitar, after 4 months I got my first electric Wich was and still is, the eko vl 480, cause I absolutely loved the esthetic of the Les Paul and it's sound, before buying it I became very nerdy about guitars and everything around it so I knew what I wanted, but that's not the case for every beginner I guess, as of now, as a beginner I love my guitar, I use Daddario 9-42 strings and they're perfect, but before that I bought some Ernie ball 11-52's💀 just after that I realized that was a terrible mistake, great video

  • @deletiontrap
    @deletiontrap 9 місяців тому +1

    I guess it's a good thing I started with a classical as my first (and probably what I will be using most until I finally get enough for a guitar that has more frets).

  • @yodan4466
    @yodan4466 9 місяців тому

    my first electric was an rg with a floyd rose. i love that guitar but it was not in tune the whole first year i played it

  • @5CylMedia
    @5CylMedia 9 місяців тому

    squier bullet strat is what i started with, obviously still have it, got it on sale for $120, now on my 8th guitar and i still go back to it every now and then

  • @l0rd_breeigo-sama954
    @l0rd_breeigo-sama954 9 місяців тому +10

    My 2nd guitar was an 8 string, 3 years ago. Cause i wanted to play Meshuggah songs, they are my top 1 inspiration as to picking up guitar. And i genuinely believe that it spend up my right and left hand muting when playing. Though it also has the added the 1 drawback of just being drawn to the low strings, cause it is just fun. But on top of that, i would personally say it adds the benefit of not having to retune your guitar up when you want to play leads, practice scales, learning on. It adds so much versatility if you just use it. Not sure i would reccommend it, but i also wouldnt say to directly avoid them either. Though i had also been playing violin for 10 years earlier (never Got that good as i didnt like classical music) so i wasnt completely jumping to the deep end of the pool when beginning, so cant truly say.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +4

      Too true. If you wanna play meshuggah you of course have to get a 7 8 or 9 haha but I am so lost on an 8 string 😆

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 9 місяців тому

      @@JamieSlays 8 string has been some sort of standard long before 6; there is a lot of music written specifically for it. Check out "Brahms Guitar"
      (honestly just yesterday I learned "Mezzo Violin" which typically has *seven* strings)

    • @rhymenocologist
      @rhymenocologist 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm a firm believer in buying the guitar that makes you want to play.
      You'll pick it up more if it's the one you actually want.

    • @RaineyDaysStudio
      @RaineyDaysStudio 9 місяців тому

      This. So long as it makes you want to play and it doesn’t FEEL like shit, it’s good.

  • @davidshafer6388
    @davidshafer6388 9 місяців тому +4

    The biggest guitar myth when I started playing in 1997, was that you needed a humbucker to have "fat" tone. I eventually put a JB player humbeucker in the strat knock off I was playing, then replaced it a few years later with a seymour duncan 59. The single coils were ceramic, and they sounded great. Changing the pickups did not make the guitar anymore suitable for metal than it allready was. It did have a 5 way selector switch, which made it great for cranking up distorted tones. Single coils have an undeserved bad reputation for playing heavy metal. I did like the sound of the JB player pickup, so I kept it in the bridge, and left the other two single coils.

    • @Trentstone121
      @Trentstone121 9 місяців тому

      How does a pickup selection switch boost your volume? Am I misunderstanding your comment?

    • @davidshafer6388
      @davidshafer6388 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Trentstone121 There are two positions in a five way selector switch that allow a blend between either the neck and middle pickup, or the middle and bridge pickup. The blend allows for a hum/feedback canceling effect becuase the middle pickup is would in the opposite direction of the neck and bridge pickup. Without using that feature, single coils hum, and even worse feedback loud when the amp has overdrive/distortion and is turned up loud enough to play with a drummer. Selecting just one single coil, or using a 3 way selector will result in excessive noise/feedback. I just play a Class A tube amplifier nowadays with reverb, and no distortion. It still soulds heavy without the distortion because of the reverb, and my playing style. Let me know if you need any pickups made, or a custom guitar built.

    • @Trentstone121
      @Trentstone121 9 місяців тому

      Okay, I get what you mean. Thanks a lot for the explanation!

    • @davidshafer6388
      @davidshafer6388 9 місяців тому

      @@Trentstone121 You are welcome.

    • @sgd5k292
      @sgd5k292 9 місяців тому

      @@davidshafer6388 Yeah, you can make a single coil sound like a humbucker, but you cannot make a humbucker sound like a single coil.

  • @tomfinn8076
    @tomfinn8076 9 місяців тому

    I started on a shoddy acoustic with super high action and bad tuners. It took me a while before i got a nicer acoustic and even longer to get an electric. I would say, it held me back for years, not having an easier guitar to play on. When i started playing in bands with an electric, it was like relearning the instrument all over again. I had to change my strumming style and chording style. If you get an acoustic first, make sure it plays well compared to a high end one. There are great sub $300 acoustics out there, but not all of them

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 9 місяців тому +1

    When my son wanted to begin learning, I thought about my struggles and chose a guitar that avoids all of them. I found a used Taylor T5Z. It's got the piezo pickup, the humbucker and a mic built into the body for acoustic. You can play it all. The neck is very thin and playing acoustic with it is a dream. I picked it up for $1600. Yes, a little on the salty side. But it's actually like 4 guitars in one, very well made and you will never need anything else. And for effects, I got him the Boss ME-80. It's got real knobs and switches and is laid out very simple. One of my biggest struggles was too many options. I would spend hours fiddling with all the thousands of choices and endless tweaking instead of playing it. Paralysis by analysis. Same with the amp. He got an Epiphone Valve Jr. It has one control, that's the volume. And an off/on switch. With that rig, my 15 year old son blew past me in one year. He is so good. And gear is not even a priority. He comes home from school, flips one switch on the power strip and is tuning up within 30 seconds. lol back in my learning days it would take me 20 minutes of tweaking before I played the first chord. That's the way to go

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +1

      That sounds epic. I love the boss me80

    • @valuedhumanoid6574
      @valuedhumanoid6574 9 місяців тому

      @@JamieSlays lol same. I believe they just released an updated version. Perhaps worthy of a video?

  • @darrenkealy3745
    @darrenkealy3745 9 місяців тому

    They’re sick sweatbands! What are they from??

  • @mahmam3128
    @mahmam3128 9 місяців тому

    Great point on the acoustic, starting on one doesn't make sense if all you wanna play is electric

  • @Septicshites
    @Septicshites 9 місяців тому

    I got a epiphone les Paul standard pro for a steal I’d say that’s a good first

  • @bezerah3695
    @bezerah3695 9 місяців тому

    Also guys I have a schecter PT with stock pickups one is a single coil the other is a p90 i bought it off my friend for $300 basically brand new. I know humbuckers are better for Metal but could I still in theory record decent metal tracks or ideas with my pickups the guitar sounds pretty good plugged in. I’m also using plug ins as opposed to a traditional amp.

  • @savoirfaire8979
    @savoirfaire8979 9 місяців тому +1

    *I play metal on a Jazzmaster with single coils.*

  • @Agueart
    @Agueart 9 місяців тому

    My first guitar was a Rhoads V and it was a terrible idea. I bought a Schecter strat body next which was honestly a great first guitar at the price point. I got a Gibson Les Paul the other day and that thing... Oof... Love it but definitely not a beginner guitar from a price stand point but it plays so well and comfortably.

  • @eliaangelone386
    @eliaangelone386 9 місяців тому

    Ciao!! Ciao a tutti!! Mitico jamie!!🤘🏻❤🇮🇹🤘🏻

  • @doccrayon138
    @doccrayon138 9 місяців тому +1

    I remember my "first" guitar was a Gibson Explorer rental. in 1983. Before that it was an acoustic guitar for Music class in grade school and I hated that guitar whereas the Explorer was very fun. Echo Hard! "Doc"

  • @mars_alexander
    @mars_alexander 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a Jackson J12, what do you think about it?

  • @George_K.
    @George_K. 9 місяців тому

    The EVH D-tuna works, because those guitars don't have a recess, while nearly all floating trem guitars do have a recess and using the D-tuna would still bomb the tuning. Moot point considering the video overall , but it should be noted if anyone gets a wrong idea from the video. Another thing that's weird about the video is mentioning bands like Polyphia, I didn't pick the electric guitar telling myself I'll play Jeff Loomis solos, I had no illusions and I still can't do it all these years later, lol. I think the majority of people who listen to bands like Polyphia are musicians themselves or at least aware of the insane skills involved.

  • @SeyaDiakite7
    @SeyaDiakite7 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much for existing pal

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate! That’s really nice

    • @SeyaDiakite7
      @SeyaDiakite7 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JamieSlays you’re welcome. After fighting with a stranger that tried to assault me, this makes me feel better

  • @emile-arthuroosterlynck2320
    @emile-arthuroosterlynck2320 9 місяців тому +1

    What about a cheap, 7 string, whammy bar, single coil guitar?

  • @stevenstatham2864
    @stevenstatham2864 9 місяців тому

    I've never had a beginner strat style guitar my first electric was and ltd ex 50 cuz I'd prefer the explorer and flying v shape with the exception of my les paul of course

  • @Yats6417
    @Yats6417 9 місяців тому +2

    I also didn't like how loud acoustic was starting of, when I'm playing like shit starting off I don't want the fret buzz to be heard that far away xD
    Granted, I've learnt recently of the Hole cover thingies to reduce the sound.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому +1

      Oh yeh! That’s a good idea!

  • @MrHaggyy
    @MrHaggyy 9 місяців тому

    I got an acoustic as a first because we had and still have it in house. But once i got serious we went to two guitar shops and i could try out a lot of guitars. The guys at the shop were really nice and even let me play "the real deal" even tho it was completely outside the pricerange.
    I went with a Hagstrom XL5 that is still hanging in my room. A good point for an acoustic is they are simple. Strings hold forever, you don't need an amp to get some volume and most stay in tune pretty good.
    Also i think single coils are not a bad choice either. Sure they wont sound like Metallica but neither will you and they are really sensitive and honest. So you really need to learn how to play. Which might be discouraging.
    My next guitars i choose online but still bought them at the shop. It's the same price, you can try out first and sometimes they can make you offers you wont find online.

  • @jamescradock1837
    @jamescradock1837 9 місяців тому

    Yep first guitar was acoustic stopped playing it. Was too hard. Years later got electric still playing and learning

  • @genskylight2769
    @genskylight2769 8 місяців тому

    I started with SD Strat, of course, I wasn't knowledgeable about pickups and such so I got a lot of noise. I started listening to Hendrix and how he does his noise and feedback. Eventually, I learned how to do and incorporate those noises and feedback into my playing style.
    Although the genre I'm usually playing is somewhere along pop, rock, and blues, I occasionally play the heavy stuff; still with a Strat. Playing metal with a Strat alone is somewhat awkward, but the Strat would cut through the mix with a band.
    Using a Strat or single coils for metal would fall to personal taste. =) cheers

  • @griffinspady9019
    @griffinspady9019 9 місяців тому +1

    Ive been thinking about starting a business that specifically rents guitars and amps, just so you can play a decent axe and see if guitar is really what you wanna do, then they return it and buy their own. Thats the simple version.

  • @user-hk4kd2md5h
    @user-hk4kd2md5h 9 місяців тому

    Idk I played master puppets with single coils and it was a squire and it sounded pretty good so idk what your talking about

  • @marcvolgers8352
    @marcvolgers8352 9 місяців тому

    My first guitar was a cheap Legend strat model, bought that in 1992. Single coils - no idea it wasn't a great idea, but I had a Boss Overdrive/Distortion pedal. 2nd guitar: a Hamer with floating bridge. Terrible idea because nobody told me how to change strings... completely f-d up the tuning and it never really got fixed. 3rd guitar an Ibanez RX (first Japanese batch) which I still have.

  • @PoppysPixels
    @PoppysPixels 9 місяців тому

    My first two guitars broke your first two rules in order. Acoustic to a Kramer with an Floyd Rose. I never used the tremolo on it. I just liked the necks felt on Kramer guitars. That and it kinda looked like Randy Rhoads' Jackson. I still have the guitar in pieces in my basement.

  • @BrianBower
    @BrianBower 9 місяців тому

    I had a good neighbour 20 years ago and he said to my parents to just have me get an electric. I have a student acoustic here atm and it’s hard as hell to play at times.

  • @kennethcarlin9629
    @kennethcarlin9629 9 місяців тому +1

    I was in a music store once and a guy bought a $1000 Rhoads flying V in white with gold hardware for his son who just started. I hope he's still playing it.

    • @JamieSlays
      @JamieSlays  9 місяців тому

      Me too! Those guitars are sick