The Fall of Linus Tech Tips
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2023
- In this video I discuss how Linus Tech Tips has been getting information in their product reviews and tests wrong for years and has probably resulted in thousands if not millions of tech customers making misinformed purchasing decisions.
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I think the waterblock and the bad benchmarks are a red herring. The inability to take responsibility or accountability without constant deflecting and reversing is the underlying issue!
Granted, Steve is his biggest competitor, who up until Linus opened his Labs, was one of the only people who had the hardware to do in-depth testing (remember his acoustic testing room).
Hi, man, please talk about the controller drift issue in the ps5 and their stupid "fix" which is a 200$ controller that doesn't even fix the issue, talk about controller drift plox.
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That … but also the whole commitment to personal loyalty. Either you're loyal to him and he'll "treat you well" (by his definition) or you're not and he goes full asshole. He's even said if his employees ever tried to unionize, he would immediately become the asshole boss, because he's got no incentive not to at that point. And you have seen him act that way a few times in different circumstances.
I think this could've become a nothing-someone else said so in a comment as well: Linus could've had a meeting with the new CEO and his wife and said to the person, "Hey, Steve made it pretty clear we've been screwing up here kind of a lot lately. Wow, it sucks to see it laid all out like that. We brought you in to make this company better. So we're gonna step back and let you do that." And it could've all blown over by now. They did the exact opposite of everything they should've done until it was a massively huge dumpster fire response, though.
Man you’re everywhere.
Real tragedy. Guy ruined his reputation just because he didn't want it invest in a little bit more quality control. Real sad. Keep it up Deepfake Drake
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I never really been able to watch an entire video of Linus, this guy makes me cringe heavily.
I think the last time I tried to watch one of his videos it was about TempleOS (and Terry Davis) and it just felt like I was watching something like 2 girls 1 cup...
The waterblock debacle is worse than you mentioned here: Linus COULDN'T be bothered to test it according to company instructions and used mismatched card, the waterblock obviously failed, then Linus completely trashed it and called it bad product and then defended this opinion by implying the company is bad for even trying to make clearly enthusiast grade expensive edge-case hardware for those who want it, because "it's bad for consumers". And then he sold it off instead of returning it.
Also, Mister 100 Million dollars claimed that spending 200-500 bucks to test it properly is a waste.
He didn't ever trash on it, and in the video there was mention that the reason it didn't work is because they used the wrong card. They looked at it from an objective perspective and even didn't use their test results as a contributor to their conclusion. Their take away was that it was a very good product and well built, it was for niche tiny form factor builds, but it was a lot of money and for most people it wouldn't have been worth it. Even if it was the correct gpu, he would have had the same take away that $800 is a metric crap ton of money for a cooler. He was wrong for not retesting the gpu and attributing that to it "costing $500" of employee pay, but at the end of the day this isn't driven by malice, or an attempt to ruin billlet labs, it was just an overview of him building with the product, setting it up, and running a test on it. If it was a performance review there would've been actual data collected and they would've actually used the right card. I think you've fallen into the echo chamber that Steves video has created and like a lot of others are taking little tiny details and making them the end of the world.
@@peckservers Sure, fair point on how that review went. But I consider how they handled the prototype afterwards pretty close to the "end of the world" bit.
@@peckservers they still sold the prototype at auction without permission... they didn't even reach the other company about it until Steve's video... that in itself is damning for me.
I couldn't care less for their reviews anyway, i will look at hard data, look at price and decide for myself if it's good enough, the moment they are not doing proper testing any value of that information is lost for me
@@janetjane4861 my original reply to this is magically gone so here's a retake of it. I have to disagree on your opinion on the auction part too. What happened is that there is a department responsible for communicating with companies such as Billet labs, and the agreement was that it was to be sent back. Then an employee from another department who had no idea of this arrangement selected it as one of the items to by put in the auction. After realizing this mistake the employee immediately tried to reach out to Billet to make them whole, because at the end of the day it would be stupid of them to sell it to try to make money intentionally going against billets wish. it was purely an accident. They explained this in a recent video, and it is completely understandable how it happened.
@@imblackmagic1209 They went over this in their latest video, what happened is that due to non communication between departments, there was plans to send the block back, but Colton didn't know of that when he was picking things for the auction. A completely understandable mistake. they actually attempted to reach out before any of the controversy had ever been conceived under the light. That communication didn't make it through however, so when Steve reached out, billet didn't have any record of an attempt to reach out. Taking Steve at face value would paint Linus as an evil greedy bastard. But understanding the whole context of the situation just makes it look like a massive L error.
you said it yourself that the data from their review doesn't matter in your eyes, so why are you contradicting by saying that if they don't provide good data then it suddenly does matter. In the original review they made it pretty obvious that the product was good and they just tested it wrong. So basically they said this test doesn't even matter. At that point why are we still focused on it. If they were clear about that why is there a fixation point on it still being wrong. It's just moot, because that wasn't the point of the video, just like the point of their overpowered server videos aren't to get exact numbers on their performance, its just more of a "this is cool" thing. Please enlighten me on why something like that is worth destroying his company over, especially when it comes to the sheer amount of factually accurate content that exists from his company. It, just like the incorrect gpu graph is such a minor itty mistake in a large pool of overall data, 99.9% of which is completely accurate that calling him a sham over it is unfair at best.
They called people who use adblock thieves, then getting exposed as the biggest thieves. What an irony.
Right, this is when he lost all credibiity and then he doubled down recently by suggesting that UA-cam charging for 1080 is a good thing
LOL what a fuking shill.
They didn't really do that... They (linus and luke during the WAN show) also said **they** use adblock themselves. Using adblock is a kind of piracy, you are taking content without giving back to it's creator. Ads are annoying and I use adblock, but the statement is not wrong.
The dudes talk about pirating or "privateering" all the time on wan and know it is an important part of the internet. What I recall is them basically pointing out: if you like a creator, you aren't supporting them by blocking ads, consider supporting them by **some** means.
The amount of people who clearly don't watch LTT commenting as if they know anything is insane to me.
Do some research, the whole freaking problem here is LTT not taking their time to think/do proper research/correct themselves and here you are doing the same.
They find their revenue streams one way and another. The whole damn tech sphere is an ad anyways. Excuse me for sparing myself an ounce of mental manipulation.
@@sipp884 right LTT is just one big product placement ad itself it doesn't need more ads between the ads
@@tom12323456 You are ridiculous if you expect anyone to sit through all of his podcasts just to see how he *truly* feels about adblock or piracy. And even you concur that he did say that so what do you mean by "They didn't really do that". The statement is absolutely wrong lmao. Equating not contributing to their revenue as theft is nothing more than gaslighting.
>the whole freaking problem here is LTT not taking their time to think/do proper research/correct themselves and here you are doing the same.
LTT is a multimillion company operating a business, releasing data which they claim is accurate and influencing customer choices. The commenters here are bored people watching videos on youtube. Yup yup totally the same thing.
This was going to happen eventually. I get the sense that all their employees are just redditors lmao
Predditors*
I'm getting discord / masterdom vibes but I see where you're coming from lol. Maybe even Roblox devs.
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@KGBColonelGeorgeCostanza the proper one or the one about Dicks in enemy asses?
@@megatronskneecap*mastadon ?
At this point LTT has become a product advertisement channel. The problem with this is, they have a clear bias for many of their sponsors. The cherry on top of their downfall is their inconsistent data.
He also attacked adblockers... He lost all my respect after that.
It's always been this way. Nothing has changed, other than LTT getting called out on it.
advertisement channel = no watch, no trust
@@sophiacristinaLTT is a normie tech channel and Linus has had some horrible takes but the AdBlock wasn't one of them. Comparing it to piracy isn't wrong per se and they didn't make a value judgement about it being wrong to the point of even having pihole tutorial on the main channel
@@fish3977 I noticed this "normie channel" vibe from him, but i like some mainstream stuff when it is well presented and have consistency.
I was never his sub, but i used to see some stuffs from him. But after the ad-block i noticed he was "too normie".
He just danced on words to make it seem as you are talking about, but be honest, behind four walls we know he was angry about ad-blockers, it is just that in public people talk "too well". If he wasn't mad, he wouldn't talk about it to begin with, or would recommend, like Ross did.
For me the cracks started to show around 2017 when Linus admitted on the podcast they delayed releasing a video on Vega gpus for months to let the drivers mature just to protect AMD. That wasn't in the audience interest or consumer advocacy. That was protecting a multibillion dollar company and LMGs industry connections.
Wow, I didn't know that
Interesting
Imagine being stupid enough to say it out loud, lmao.
I've gotten those "selective" vibes from him for a long time, ya
And he proceeds to shit on AMD CPUs by not installing AGESA so AMD's latest CPU looks like trash in comparison to Intel.
I guess that's what happens when you stop paying LMG...
Just to add - the Billet waterblock was given to Linus attached to the graphics card it was designed for. LMG willfully removed the waterblock from this GPU, put it on a 4090 which it then did not fit as well due to design tolerances, and then ran the review - and then auctioned it. Last I heard, Billet had not recieved their graphics card back and there was no mention of this as most of the focus was on their waterblock. Imagine if I took the prototype heatsink made by two people off a Ryzen 5 series processor and put it onto an i7-13900k, then complained about the performance, auctioned it off to potentially a competitor, and then only really card about getting it back and returning it (just the waterblock, not the cpu it came with) after the company complained. Oh, and all this after having the prototype for 9 weeks before even bothering to review it - that's basically what LMG did to this two person startup company. He should know better and have more empathy.
Screw empathy, that's a contract breach.
There is misinformation in this take too, yes they did do their testing improperly and used the wrong gpu. that is an obvious mistake, and they are human. To attribute it to malice is where your take kind of falls apart. Doing what they did (considering that Billet said it potentially works on both 3090 and 4090) is like putting a cooler meant for an i9 13900k on an i9 11900k, it theoretically could work so that's what they tried it with. Then when it didn't work they said in the video its cause its the wrong gpu, and didn't base their conclusion on the test result. You obviously didn't give a look into any of the videos released on the topic by Linus about all of the community concerns. There is a very logical and reasonable explanation as to how the block got auctioned off in the first place. That would be asking a lot of his community to do some research on their clams though. They immediately reached out even before Steve's video had even come into existence and tried to do everything in their power to make it right. This shows that they were aware of their mistake and wanted to make it right even before any of the backlash happened. It wasn't about making money from it at the auction, which would be attributing their actions to malice. It was that it was selected by Colton to put on the auction, and Colton didn't know what it had to go back. which is not only understandable, but also is based on actual facts. You basically are just regurgitating what other people have speculated and echo chambered around like a big game of telephone and its a damaging behavior. You can't hate someone because of hearsay, unless you do some proper research on them first.
@@peckserversthey send a mail, but to the wrong person. Billet only received a mail, after the video
Also, they leaked the price of the prototype iirc
Not sure, but I think it was said, that billet tried to contact them, and he didn't received an answer
@@schwingedeshaehers Yeah Colton didn't hit reply all, and only hit reply so it only went to the procurement team. There was an attempt made to reach out, and the fact that they did that clears them of any possibility of trying to be deceitful. Billet iirc never specified that the price was supposed to be secret, so there was no expectation for it to stay as such. Billet did reach out and informed LTT of their mistake and never received a response because Colton messed up.
@@peckservers some things should be considered trade secrets, until specified otherwise.
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lol, jason tatum
@@Ralphunreal First helping us tie a tie, now talking about cybersecurity. What a guy.
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Maybe he should have been cleaning chicken coops instead, really humbles a man.
As MO does, Linus should've, farming is the future, always has been, even in our country....unfortunately world war 2 and sanctions crippled us
There does indeed exist a tech guy to farmer pipeline
@@Hypnotically_Caucasianif you're into tech, you're probably into learning and self improvement, so handymanning, working out, and homesteading makes a lot of sense to be interconnected.
If I'm not mistaken, he literally grew up on a farm. He's mentioned it on WAN show in the past.
@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Who is ML?
Linus saying to his viewers to hold companies accountable but never assuming any responsibility really shows what kind of person he is. Even his colleague Luke, on the WAN show, had disagreements with him when he was trying to shift the blame for this situation and for the one with the backpack that had no warranty.
luke is so awesome and the whoel level one media so much better than ltt 100%
It sucks that Best Buy did not give their sales associates the ability to read fact or data sheets about the products instead of relying on UA-cam videos.
That's way more educated than the Best Buy workers I've interacted with, last time I consulted one of them to buy a computer he said "Idk man just get an Apple."
Not to defend a corpo, but it does make sense to give data about a new product, in a way an associate would easily digest.
That's why many of us older IT people call Best Buy, "(you'd) Best Buy (somewhere else)".
You'd Best Buy somewhere else is probably gonna make a comeback.
@@alloounou6900 cant wait what a time to be alive !
this could have been handled well and turned into nothing, they did everything wrong
Agree, agreed and agreeing.
I think their current response to the content drop is good and reasonable, but then there's the Madison thing
You mean Linus Sebastian did everything wrong
@@venykrid The 'Madison thing' doesn't even seem that bad, and if they addressed it then I feel like it would just be worse for them.
@@okjozselling a prototype at an auction is a HUGE fuckup
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Even if Linus and his Media corporation can dig themselves out of this PR disaster with the respective communities, once you bring in sexual harassment and deception into any companies timeline sponsors and monihtazation are completely and utterly out of the window.
"If you're really good at something, never do it for free" - Joker
"I don't make burgers where you work and then tell you how to make burgers" - Michael Scott
It's a lesson continuously ignored for the last decade in every aspect of life.
@@fal1026it’s not a lesson, it’s a platitude to help people make sense of the complex world where people aren’t perfect, and continuously show this on a public scale (hence hero or villain). People don’t call normies heroes or villains, but best believe we are all going through our own arcs same as Linus.
Well the whole "sell the product you get sent for review" thing happens in other industries too. I sent CutleryLover (big knife channel) a free custom made pocket knife that I made that retailed for $750, he didn't even review it, then sold it to "fund his channel" rather than sending it back to a small one-man business. I think that's scummy, considering the size of his channel.
I always had a yukky gut feeling towards that guy
If you sent it to him for free without any kind of agreement in place.... You're the clown here. It might be scummy, but you're not very smart at all.
Getting big is always a problem and is rarely handled well. I've seen this in FOSS too. When you have a hobby project for a few people, everything can work nicely. When such project grows monstrously big such as LTT, you have to deal with serious issues including people's growing expectations, enemies you'll undoubtedly make, parasites wanting to abuse you for their benefit and competition. Worst of all, with size comes power and power corrupts. People grow narcissistic to the point of malignancy, get delusions of grandeur, lose the ability to self-reflect, learn to take shortcuts instead of doing the work and things start to fall apart fast.
Little Leopards become big leopards and big leopards kill
the key aspect to a successful large company is the people you hire
sounds like Linus just had a bunch of garbage need to get rid of
the sexual harassment wasnt even directed towards him unlike this trash channel made it out to be
most of the issues are caused by employees anyway
like you said, its now full of parasites and enemies trying to sabotage and corrupt
Linus should just sell the damn thing for 100mil and enjoy life with his family
Linus tech tips has fallen, billions must break linux
I don't know why it's satisfying seeing a company fall....it makes me feel great about my life....and my dislocated shoulder from drunk ramblings
Nexus Gamers has raise, billion must switch to BSD
@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Brother, it sounds like you need some time fishing or something. I don't see the revel in coveting someone's downfall. But there is a lot we can learn about how too much exposure and stimulus can slowly degrade even the most determined of individuals. We all have our limits, you might have hit yours as well.
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I love watching companies fall. It's a beautiful thing. It's part of a healthy market. It creates opportunity and shake ups in markets very fun to watch. When companies don't die and just keep expanding that's when there are issues.
Linus just stepped down from CEO 6 weeks ago. He still owns 100% of the company (Technically he owns 51% and his wife owns 49%) so even if the new CEO tried to push him out he could fire the new CEO and reinstate himself
While that's true, it doesn't benefit Linus to do that unless Terren Tong is not a good fit for the job. Especially right now; firing Terren would be horrible optics for LMG. Linus needs someone like Terren with his corporate background in management and crisis management to weather this mess Linus got himself into. Will be interesting to watch play out.
If you pushed out the head of the channel then "Linus" Tech Tips just wouldn't be as appealing no matter what you do its done for
Despite only being in 13% of videos
@@romevang oh yeah I think Terren appears to be a great change for the company. I was just corrected the video and saying that it would be impossible to remove Linus
@@chasedooley6237 you’re so wrong
Louis Rossman is a national treasure; we must protect him at all costs.
My biggest redflag were the Gaming on Linux videos where for inexplicable reasons the package manager was suggesting to remove XServer and after executing the removal the video spent several minutes complaining how this is unacceptable this, Linux is bad for users that. It was content equivalent of letting a monkey sit at a Windows machine and let it delete System32
clowns revealed to be clowns after decade of clowning
lol
Sir, this is a Circus.
The whole Linus Empire has gone down the shitter for years and its wild for me it took people this long to take notice. Its been either crazy over the top PC builds or very surface level reviews. Especially their phone reviews (something I am quite passionate about) are a joke.
Aren't the Over the Top PC builds like, half of the reason to be this large?
Their "Over the Top PC Builds" have surface level reviews too.
yeah the phone space is the most boring atm lmao imagine blaming linus for that @@Sh1ft3r1
@@Sh1ft3r1 Literally LTT mindset
Recommend phone pls
Linus should have left when he originally planned, that way he would still end on a high note
trueeeeeee
I miss the good ol days when they did scrapyard wars
It's worth noting, the new CEO literally only stepped in, in the last couple of months; and (probably more importantly), the sexual harassment allegations aren't against Linus himself, they're against unnamed employees in the company (not that, that makes it okay, but it is quite different).
Shreksual Harassment is my middle name
@@Hypnotically_Caucasianlies, it’s underscore
sigh, in the past no one cared about these shexual herassment and now everyone is whining about it
That's interesting info, thank you for sharing!
I wonder if that's why "Emma" came about, as a mean to deflect...
6:28 It's worse than that, he didn't even test it properly, because it would have cost 500$ to actually use the GPU it was intended for, that Billit also sent and conveniently had go missing, and LTT didn't have a replacement in time for the shoot.
Same with the Pwnage Mouse situation, where their professional reviewer didn't remove the plastic cover on the feet before complaining about how rough it is to use.
With the mouse they claimed that when they tested it, it had no plastic covering on the feet. When it was pointed out you could see it in the video, they backtracked and blamed the company for not having clear instructions. Sad.
I was surprised GN didn't circle the feet in that original video.
I wouldnt call David (the person who review the mouse) a professional reviewer. hes a camera man for the company but hes also a pc gamer thats why they have him doing mouse reviews in addition to some camera reviews.
@@73delgado - It was a joke. I guess I should have added air quotes to that, though I thought the joke was self explanatory since an actual professional likely wouldn't miss if it has a plastic feet cover or not.
The Pwnage Mouse video was not a review and the guy on the vid was not a professional. The video is supposed to be an unboxing that's why there is no data on the vid it's just the guy talking about it quickly.
It doesn't change anything to how unprofessional it is to shit on a product like that especially when it's what they OFFERED AS A GIFT TO THEIR VIPS during LTX. That's so fucking dumb its funny.
Someone said it's a sweatshop.
And I can't agree more
Linus always felt scummy to me. How he's handled situations in the past is indicative of it. More recently the Warranty issue that later became "the Trust Me Bro" , but even dating as far back as the AMD R9 390, Angry he did not get a "Free" day one card, he haphazardly reviewed in with 1 game and acted like a petulant child throughout.
damn Mental outlaw is using AI to made this dude in the video
Even comes with Civil War General facial hair expansion pack
AI Drake
What software is he using
@@marlenamertens1326 not sure but it’s open source
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Linus isnt the ceo anymore but him and his wife own the entire company
Hes the face and name of the whole brand if he goes down the company does too
Minus Linus brought it on himself tbh
He's had over a year of controversies and he isn't going to change. I think what most surprises me is it took this long for the tech youtube channels to stand up to him. I'm not surprised it was Steve. He's said again and again he'll get better. He's never stopped talking and started doing. It's all just corporate handwaving and excuse-making.
"had over a year of controversies" what do you mean by that? do you have anything to back that up or is that just something you read from someone else? I've followed his channel and the things he has done for many years now and I cant think of many actual controversies that weren't stemmed from poor wording or a misinterpretation of something he said. You cant just go around saying stuff that is factually wrong, because all you are doing is contributing to the buzz echo chamber of misinformation.
Yep, he has to make absolutely no mistake, or else he will have to taste our wrath!
I think GN and LTT have some differences over the year, but what set it off is what a staff of LTT labs say duirng LTX which throw shade at Hardware unboxed and GN during a showing of labs recorded by other people.
Hardware unboxed throws a casual shot back on twitter, but I guess steve from GN takes that statement more way more seriously.
It also kind of shows the lack of control LMG has tho. U don't usually allow employee to casually throw shade at ur counterparts in open setting like that especially when u aren't known rivals.
Also doesn't help after labs were announced by Linus I think those errors instead become more of a frequent occurrence.
@@derpysean1072You say that as if he's only made a very simple or easy to forgive mistake. Having a company accused of sexual harassment of employees, selling one of a kind prototypes, and constantly antagonizing his own fan base ("trust me bro!") is not one mistake, nor is they simple, easy to forgive mistakes.
@@789knowIndeed, for all the money spent on the Labs, the channels actually become much less reliable, making mistakes the likes of which you could easily find if you spent five seconds reading the spec sheets, or in the case of that one GPU benchmark, just thinking about what you're making for a moment. It's irresponsible. It also won't matter - they're a company that has enough money they can bury detractors if they really want.
What's greedier than auctioning off the copper block was refusing to spend a few hundred dollars to do the testing properly. That's insanely obnoxious to me. Mistakes happen at companies all the time and companies pay to fix then, it's part of their costs and that's normal.
Talking about mistakes and misinformation, I can't help but notice you rushed your research a little as well.
1. You failed to mention that not only did he auction off the water block that he was supposed to give back, he also used the wrong video card with it (4090 instead of 3090) because "he didn't have the proper one on hand at the time", and then rated it badly.
2. He hasn't been a CEO for like a month, not years, he's still the Owner and main share holder with his wife Yvonne.
Thanks Colombo
Also the hacked musk stream wasn't up for a day and a half it was much less then that.
Exactly, this has a lot of misinformation, ironically ...
Saying he's not involved when he's a majority stakeholder by a landslide is a bit like saying he didn't sell the waterblock, he auctioned it.
@@maiyannah okay accidentally selling something for personal profit is worse then accidentally putting it up for charity. Neither are good but if they sold it outright they would look significantly worse in this situation
Several mistakes here;
*Linus was the CEO until about 6 weeks ago.
*Linus and his wife Yevonne are co-owners of the business... So no matter what. They are still in charge.
*The sexual assault allegations are not against Linus himself (but other "management").
I'm no fan of Linus, but let's try to keep things as factual as possible...
Yeah you are!
Yeah YOU ARE!
WE SEE YOU BUDDY!
With the amount of people reacting to this, "keeping things as factual as possible" is harder than it is, it is great that a lot of people are trying.
@@derpysean1072 yeah the misinformation is really getting out of hand. I've been looking through these comments and so many are just echoed off of someone else's factually misinformative take. I can't type fast enough to even fathom helping spread the truth but its worth trying because Linus doesn't deserve what he's getting right now
bernie sanders, contrapoints, philosophytroon. nice try stalin
@@thechadbuddha It's trying to communicate 🤗
Linus has shown pie charts with their revenue breakdown on the WAN show a few times, UA-cam adrev is a chunk, but a small chunk.
He only left the CEO position very shortly ago.
He and his wife own 100% of the company between the two of them.
I feel there were some more things I could correct, but cooking some Libre food rn
Steve is goddamn stubborn about doing the right thing, and that's good. The man really helps consumers and hw manufacturers as well, and he has a way smaller budget and people to work with than LMG.
Also easily more knowledgeable about the stuff he covers. Tons of mistakes from LTT in his video were just straight embarrassing.
"men live in rooms like this and dont see any issue"
Women suffer from hoarder behavior and explode if you mention it
@handleneeds3charactersormore its probably a foraging instinct, picking up berry's and food for the tribe way back when.
But now instead of food for survival its shitty live love laughing posters
Gotta love how powerful is Steve
GN has been a total powerhouse lately. Steve is a boss.
he's actually got the integrity that grounded critique / journalism calls for
Not only did all of that happen, but his response was horrible and then he had the gall to try selling shit to people in an apology video already behind the floatplane paywall.
6:35 Its also good to mention that the water block used in the video was made for RTX 3090 but then they proceeded to mount it on the RTX 4090 a completely different architecture that the block was not made for. Then proceeded to talk about how it was the wrong GPU in the video and also well after on the podcast about how "we decided it wasnt worth the monetary cost of the man hours needed to retest it."
The block came attached to a 3090 fwiw. That also went "missing"
If you pay attention how he talks to his co-workers and how they respond, immediately you notice they're not 100% comfortable around him.
I told that to my friend who likes to watch LTT months ago and he started paying more attention to that and he agreed, he must be a colossal asshole behind the scenes.
Now all this comes out and we're not surprised at all.
TBH I suspect they’re probably just nerds - not comfortable around humans.
Luke's definitely NOT comfortable with him, should've seen his reactions to Linus when addressing things on the WAN show last week.
I noticed that awhile ago and thought it was just me. Its part of the reason I stopped watching their stuff ( that combined with how shallow and corporate feeling they've become ) But yeah It always felt like there was some weird undercurrent of tension.
It's probably just people being camera shy, not everyone is used to being on camera
@@RAM_845 They have been friends for years, and hang out on the weekends. Do you really think Luke would do that if he wasn't comfortable around Linus. I don't understand how you can guys can "read emotions" so well but cant bothered to look at the context. It is so easy to quit if you don't like your boss, but they all love the work they do. Its a sad take from you guys. I like the point @BooleanDev Brings up in saying that they are most likely camera shy. When you walk into your bosses office at any job you are most likely not going to be willy nilly around them, you are going to be incredibly professional. Now imagine there's a camera with millions of people watching you through that, its stressful as hell.
"Literal crackhead behaviour" LMAO 😭😭
You said it exactly right: Blinded by greed.
One thing you forgot is that they put the water block on the wrong graphics card, so it didn't work, and they knew this, but still said it was trash, even though it wasn't working because of them.
Linus's ability to degrade, abuse, critique and ridicule others that do wrong but completely excludes himself his family and friends is the weirdest narcissistic behaviour I've ever seen. Well I say "friends" he blamed content quality issues on his employees/so called "buddies" yet the people he was trying to blame said they are pushed too much to make vast ranges of content on a daily basis and realised the issues back in like early feb. And the employee sexual harassment claims just add another layer of wtf to all of this.
That's just normie behavior. Narcissists can't bear being made fun of. Linus can
Well during the hack thing he threw Colton under the bus.
Nice pfp, pal.
Lol@@IT10T
Honestly I also noticed the decline of quality when it comes to LMG videos. Especially on the channels other than LTT itself. A lot feel heartless and not well thought out without any kind of preparation.
It was around 2018-2019 when they left the house to go to the warehouse. When they first went corporate to pump out videos.
Everyone seems stressed out of their minds in almost every single video. Anthony/Emily was the single biggest reason I hadn't already unsubscribed.
@@SNixDEmily story is sad tho. Once she comes out many attacks her online causing her to withdraw from showing up on video for a while.
Linus opposed the Canadian trucker protests, and he vehemently endorsed masking at the workplace. And he hates people who ad block.
Trucker protests were a Fox News psy-op. Hospitals and nursing homes had a masking at workplace policy too does that also make them woke?
He runs- or rather only owns (ostensibly) a cog of a global industry, what do you expect? His purpose is business as usual
More like masking up in place is about " Not paying enough & don't want to pay company insurance " . Yes, Linus ego & crony things are there. But hog on masking in a pandemic. Geez still going on about that loser Right wing trumpets level Brain copium.
I heard he even took the vaccine, dear lord
Thanks for the info, NordicKappa , with a lot of his takes and his image he tries to portray that's good information
This fuss is going to blow over in a few weeks and Linus’ fans will start defending him extremely hard again over this. Linus is completely removed from reality and blinded by greed, he has thusfar not taken a shred of accountability and I don’t see him *really* doing that anytime soon.
babe wake up, mental outlaw posted
Linus also took a hit last year (and kind of the start of the whole GamersNexus beef) over the backpack "Trust Me Bro (TM)" warranty.
He seems to assume because he sees himself as a Good Guy, therefore everybody else should give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll do right by them.
I know all the details aren't public, but it does kind of paint a picture after Maddison Reeves' allegations, and then another former employee Collin corroborated part of her story, that LMG has work culture issues. Heck, the leaked audio of an employee meeting from 2022 literally has another "trust me bro" comment from Linus.
I cant imagine walking into a BestBuy and meeting the most based, glock'd & cluckpilled employee, who was recently told to watch LTT for marketplace background info.
Hey man, great video I really like the way you explain things and the minimal editing is really nice this time around. Jump cuts get really annoying sometimes.
Subscribed good luck man!!
you know its bad when one of your members troons out
Linus Trans Tips
Dayum! for real!?
This event is truly diverse,soy abusers, canucks, mee too, asian wife, redheads, manlets..... and now troons.
Speaking about 'emily' 😂
Your IQ is probably not even 100.
@@atheopagan how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
This must be a serious video if he brings out the deep fake ai assistant
Linus: adblock is piracy
Also Linus: *sells someone else's property*
I used to watch specifically for Linus and him as a character and the comedy. Yes, him stepping away is the most logical solution, but honestly it will still result in the brand dying, just a little more slowly. The only one who had potential to replace him was Anthony, as people loved his character, but he recently came out as transgender (now Emily), so I don't think that would work out with the viewers. The rest of employees are as ordinary as it gets.
ANTHONY IS WHAT?! Holy crap that’s so sad to hear.
@@layheeee3782 search Anthony Emily :)
Bro is building a lab to test hardware, then admitted that he doesnt care if the data he puts out is correct or not. Hes not a scientist or anything else he fancies himself as. Hes just a kid who wants to play with toys
A kid who is used to making up his own rules.
Well, the allegations of the former Social Media Manager weren't primarily directed at Linus himself. I mean they made him look like an out of touch jerk as well but the actual bullying and harassment would have mostly been done by middle management. And that seems to be some systemic rot.
well they got corporate culture down pretty well then, cause mid management always are assholes.
I think the issue Linus has is that he takes an attack on his channel too personally and he lashed out as a result. It's probably worse than being a careless jerk for anyone working with him because that pressure and urgency rubs off right onto them almost subconsciously and they don't see it as a harmful pattern because that's exactly what their boss is doing and it's not like he's a bad guy or anything.
You don't know that since Madison never disclosed any names - implying Linus is complicit or invovled is wrong, yes.
But at the same point, one cannot simply say "oh, he didn't do it because nromally it's middle management doing that stuff" - might I remind you of Harvey Weinstein?
@@BigBossBernie
She did describe an event with Linus as well. But mostly he was apparently completely incapable of stopping any bullying.
@@BigBossBernie Linus, and management as a whole, are all complicit. If the company has no way to anonymously report things to HR which is a basic process in most larger teams, that's a complete failure on the part of management including Linus.
when Linus said that the only reason people use linux is to squeeze a bit more life out of outdated hardware I knew he was the villain
For me, one of the worst moments was when they reviewed the 3070ti or 3080ti and called it great value. Then I noticed in the video that there was a text on screen saying the video was shot before they knew the prices. How can you ethically call ANYTHING great value without knowing the price?? Too bad Gamers Nexus didn't include this point.
Not only did he give that prototype a bad review but he literally used it on the wrong graphics card in the review and that was the main prototype of that company
he refused to admit it would have made a deference
@@Finalizor his point was that cooler temps would not make it worth buying, though I agree he still should've tested it
They could probably go after him for slander depending how it works up north.
He knowingly used it on the wrong card. He knowingly refused to retest and he stated even if it did work he would still not recommend it and that its a bad product
With his very large influence you could make the case that not only did he go out of his way to slander them but cripple them by actioning off the prototype which he knew about because its not like your neighbors crescent wrench making its way into your tool box its a very unique item that cant be swept under the rug.
@@cowthedestroyer i doubt it, slander is usually reserved for malicious lying
@@BooleanDev I mean I he was.
Those guys always seemed like clowns to me.
Up until 5 or so years they were kinda good and unbiased, after that? Total clowns
The fat bald one is a woman now, if that helps.
Especially after the data loss incidents
Their servers were about as secure as public local restaurant wifi. @@TheKeirsunishi
Scamming his customers with a cheap screwdriver is what did it for me, he knows nothing about good tools and should not sell tools
That's a terrible take. The screwdriver is price competitive with a screwdrivers at the same features, and everybody knows they're paying more than they need when they buy it. It's not a scam. There's plenty to attack LMG about, their content, their horrific culture which ignored sexual harassment, and the repeated lies by Linus. We don't need to make up controversy.
The problem is likely with the entire upper management. It's not just linus who created this situation so him stepping back isn't going to fix it
Thank You Gamers Nexus.
Thank You Steve.
Thank You Tech Jesus.
Praise Tech Jesus, let's yodel and play a Colombian Guitar
Who is Steve? I don't fully know the youtube it sphere.
@@TiroDvD Gamers Nexus
And nothing of value was lost
When I started to watch LTT, I got the sense that greed was present early on when seeing the sponsorships he took. Some were particularly shady and I bailed after an egregious one I could not abide. I haven't watched him in a couple years.
That is exactly my take on this. In the last couple of years the original feel of the channel has been lost. Pure greed took over and it was clear to anyone who was a regular watcher. I'm glad this has come out, it can only be good for the viewers in the end. Anthony is by far my favourite presenter and even he has been under pressure. Slow down, lose most of the advertising and it will come back.
"Trust me bro" - Linus
look at what linus is holding at 3:51 and tell me that he didn't deserve this fall
I am watching on a crappy phone with a very small, low resolution screen, what is he holding?
@@silviocupica2521he's holding a LTT water bottle and a tweet talking about the benefits of interracial dating lol
@@WhoLover a slav and an Indian Woman? Does that seem wrong
@@WhoLover But is there anything wrong with interracial? that's how literally how latin america exists
@@lilythebluespheresfan2897You are not making a good argument for race mixing.
He could have just said that there was a mix up which caused the block to auctioned and then payed back the company for the prototype. But that would require Linus admitting he made a mistake AND requiring him to give up some money.
With this prototype it might have been the case, that with selling it, critical design information about the product was leaked, which could become a problem, if the competition gets ahold of the prototype, then if the original manufacturer didn't document and patent it right, it could end in a patent fight, which gets the original manufacturer in big trouble.
It was auctioned and the proceeds went to charity he didn't make money from it
That has been said and done
@@KManAbout
That's even worse.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj how
I like how MO had portrayed Linus from Linus Tech Tips™ as a very Learned Elder of Zion; one who would instill certain Protocols.
Apparently they had sent a 3090ti with the waterblock
linus has been an absolute joke for years
He fell off back in 2019.
Yeah he started lose in terms of quality, I mean he had some great tech tips, then he fell off, quite frankly oh how the highest have fallen....
I can't take his thumbnails seriously
Dude's a mini musk. Narcissist douche, like he's surrounded by guys to make it work for him. He can dish but cant take it.
It was the evil beard that made him that way 😂😂😂😂 sorta like Michael's knights evil twin... 😂
Everyone have been talking about this, like.. dang this gotten even bigger and bigger every day every time I look to it
Moral of the story:
Never trust a weak small men in an high position.
As someone who was working for someone with the same (from what we see on the channel) mentality as Linus, it was such a struggle working with/for someone like that where they are bouncing all over.
You might be mistaken, there was controversy about their backpacks warranty. As far as I know there was not much controversy about their screwdriver.
I mean if yea no controversy around the screwdriver if you ignore all the complaints about the egregious price for something you could get in the same quality at almost any hardware store (I bought a black edition LTT screwdriver).
@@noahwithana4149I suppose you must expect a markup for the brand. Is it any better than what you’d find in a hardware store?
@@maxrburgess I still prefer to use a set of regular screwdrivers more. But it does look cool lol. Just wish I'd realized that I'd be paying for a cool looking toy before buying it, not sure that would've stopped me but I'd be less salty. Turns out I'm just not that big a fan of ratcheting screwdrivers in general.
I think with stuff like the screwdriver like any enthusiast niche there’s people who want to pay top dollar that others might only perceive to have little or no improvement.
I’m a huge tool nerd and use them everyday in my job. There are brands that charge well over twice what Ltt are selling their ratcheting screwdrivers, that didn’t perform as well as the ltt screwdriver in some really comprehensive testing.
There’s definitely a market for what appears to be egregiously priced tools.
I was waiting for the stubby to come out so I could buy both sizes together. I’m rethinking it now after this weeks debacle.
Maybe this is schadenfreude, but I am absolutely loving watching Linus' world implode, because he so richly deserves it! I stopped watching LTT a number of years ago when he got to about a million subs (basically, the point at which he created LMG). Something changed and his videos had a much different feel to them. Basically, he stopped making videos for run-of-the-mill PC gamers, and started making content to woo corporate sponsors.
Yup I remember those days. Last thing of value I remember was one of the new (probably gone now) employees talking about macro keyboards and QMK, etc
And that was in like '18
Agreed, it went from videos that seemed to have a passion behind them, to just factory pumped out videos to hit quotas
Linus completely fell off entirely when they moved out of that iconic house and started adding billions of employees for no apparent reason. LMG needs 15 employees MAX.
Yep I got destroyed over and over for pointing out issues over the years. So I just sat in silence for a month or two until I left. Now I'm hearing his greed won? It doesn't matter. Idiots will still praise him
THIS!
I watched all the videos related to their recent bust, but I, for the love of Stallman couldn't remember why I stopped watching LTT.
They were more blunt and down to earth, and true. They really got corrupted.
You forgot to mention about the waterblock, they tested it wrong it still had some sort of protective film on it and they were surprised when it had subpar thermals.
The protective film thing was an incident with a mouse, they left the plastic on the feet making the PTFE useless. Naturally they left the video up because LMG hates facts and they enjoy dunking on products unfairly.
Honestly, with all of this coming out, it has me going back and rethinking anything I thought I learned from them... Sure, I've had multiple sources for learning tech stuff, and sure I've also caught quite a bit of bullshit they've put out... But I didn't realize it was that bad regarding the tests... Usually I would go to Gamers Nexus for actual benchmarks, but LTT usually had really cool industry stuff they would show, so now I gotta rethink most of what I watched to see if it was just an ad to get said company some investment, or just pure bullshit.
same
Most of these issues seem to stem from expanding so quickly that they’ve barely transitioned from small company mentality to a more corporate structure.
Ironically for a tech company, it appears that they just use a few writers for their server / PC management work. Perhaps they should have had a systems administrator in years ago. Hence why they keep making huge changes to their server.
I suspect they don’t get bother with the typical HR / cyber security training that every other corporate company demands of their staff. It’s easy to skip on that when your company is a total 6 tech bros, not so when it’s suddenly over 100 with far more diversity than before.
Perhaps this will prove to be the wake up call required to implement a more ethical and sustainable approach.
I think the big server changes are purely for content. A lot of people stick around for the server content and they get tons of views every time they mess with it.
@@user-sg1lq8qx7gI got one always loved the server videos lol
I am hoping they are able to redeem themselves because I don’t think Steve brought all this to life with the sole purpose of ending LTT.
@@user-sg1lq8qx7g That’s a valid point and I’m sure to a degree it’ll be a bit of fun playing with new kit all the time. But arguably, their audience will be full of aspiring IT workers who may pick up bad ideas from them.
I’ve always liked the channels but classed them as entertainment rather than factual
Their server guy is Jake who is like 23 and has never had any other job aside from LTT lol
Shoutout to louis rossman always a class act. Always afraid he will die from overwork exhaustion.
I want to download the image at 3:52 as my new wallpaper: Tech Jesus expelling the merchants and the money changers from the temple, you can also see Linus holding one of his water bottles which is such a perfect detail to include in the picture,10/10
Linus went full Defranco... Never go fully Defranco
I mean I agree that DeFranco would probably be hell to work for but he at least seems more professional than Linus *inhales more copium*. He's also got better videos.
I find it ironic that you mention you’re trying to increase your quality but in this video and several other your videos where you’re summarizing, trending topics, you gloss over details and get several things wrong such as timelines, or facts.
Not to excuse the mess that's been going on recently, but I have a feeling the vast majority of their money comes from sponsorships, and that their channel being down with the crypto scam didn't really affect revenue flow much. In fact I bet they even got a security company sponsorship out of it.
Linus has a lot of people to pay and that explains the pressure to produce even if it doesn’t make it okay. I had noticed the corrections in the subtext and had increasingly avoided them because I thought it was sloppy. I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed.
You don’t think they clear 6-8m per year in revenue ? C’mon
@@yourt00bz I don’t have access to their books. Do you?
@@Fuckthis0341 you can calculate the average rate of videos per month and do a median income per video. Times that by 12. They also get sponsor money in the high 6figs , Canadian subsidies et. Etc
Kek at the thumbnail.
His thing about not supporting unions in any capacity has broader implications. He still doesn't know that the company is bigger than him and problems with employees/documenting things will require more man hours than Linus will ever have over his lifetime.
I agree Unions are bad if you don’t like the job then leave. They ruined whole industries in the UK
Yeah his arguement may be valid for a something like a small neighborhood store where there are 8 employees or a family owned buisness but 110+ people is too hard to keep tract of everything even if we assume he is a good faith boss
Looking back his early videos, you noticed how humbling it is to see his channel grow. Now it's sad to know it's going downhill.
The phrase is, “small potatoes”
i like that you cropped out the part of that steve whipping linus pic with techfiona in it lol
(Formerly Shrek)
LMAO
*Realized theres several edits to that image, but one of the edits has techfiona(Formerly Shrek) and two other people behind steve, shits hilarious.
Linus should have sold when he had the chance. I knew he would regret it 😂
I really wonder what are they doing at the company right now, as they haven't released a video in like a week now.
Hope to see more of these kinds of videos with your face in them. Great Take like always man.
Rename to LAG
Narcissist Ad Group
Thanks, Dan, for the best joke ever ripped at ltt
Lol Is that a typo or a reference to the "it's an L, for narcissist" clip?
@@handleneeds3charactersormoreyes
Linus needs to hire better employees
He needs to lessen his employees to about 30 instead of fucking 130. MrBeast has less than that.
Why is it small brand companies tend to work better, than much more than 1000 employees
I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong but why is it a movie with millions dollars worth of CGI suck, that including the story, and usually a low budget movie does better
@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza he has a lot of money coming in and probably wants to expand and increase the quality of content.
He's problem is he is expanding rapidly and that's stressing everything and everyone out.
Bro really had misinformation in his video criticizing someone else for posting misinformation.
IK right!?
Three other greedy/gross things Linus has done in the past that I haven't really noticed mentioned recently:
1. He was selling a $200 backpack online, and didn't want to provide a formal warranty because he "didn't want his family to have to deal with the burden in case he randomly died in the near future".
2. He manipulates his workers to avoid unions as "he'd feel that he's done a bad job if they felt they had to"; sounds like the kind of boss that unions exist for...
3. -- (discussed below. Regarding him being angry at a staff member. It seems I thought it was worse than it was.)
Overall, he's a bit of a tool. 👁️👄👁️
Just curious, who got fired? Was is Dennis?
@@lequack8861 Yes, it was Dennis. I was going to leave this note in my comment, but I felt it made it a bit too long.. (I'm sorry for leaving it out!)
-- so ... NOTE: I 'think' Dennis was brought back, but I'm not sure because I couldn't find a video explaining everything exactly, and I am/was just a casual viewer. If so, please note I didn't intend to make Linus look worse for leaving this out, as I did so because I couldn't confirm it and it (imo) doesn't change the fact of what he did do (and if he did re-hire him, I think it's fair to say he wouldn't of without backlash). I felt sorry for Dennis as he is a foreigner that uses English as a second language, so that would have been pretty humiliating, I'm sure. He also isn't a mover. Oh, and I'm pretty sure it was Linus' floor, but it may have been his wall or something similar.
-- Again, I tried to find out what happened back when people were talking about it, but the videos were scattered. If I was wrong about anything... or everything! 👀 someone do please let me know and I'll update my original comment... perhaps it was all a big joke, and I was the fool. And after a year or so they finally got me... well that's just another reason to hate them then!! (I kid, obviously).
Also, if you search for "Dennis Linus fired" (or whatever) you can find the videos of Linus sitting there explaining (in my opinion, gaslighting) about how he's the victim and how "bad" Dennis was for messing it up... I personally think it's over dramatic given the circumstances, but of course, people should watch for themselves. 👍
@@grimslade0 So....found the clip. He did not fire Dennis. He even then made a video fighting him on Channel super fun. He also did used them to move furniture. Context was - the channel super fun wanted to make a prank on Linus in his new home. Then his wife gave them permission to paint a wall, but they moved the bed damaging the floor in the process. He was mad, cause he did not know it was happening but he did not fire, bor used them to move the furniture for him.
Oh and the clip from WAN show is called "This is probably the angriest I’ve ever been at an employee…"