Macs are SLOWER than PCs. Here’s why.

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  • @liberusmagnus
    @liberusmagnus 3 роки тому +4060

    Linus: your iphones don't overheat, your macbook do. Get a better cooling solution for mackbooks.
    Apple: *puts iphone chips into macbooks*

    • @SrValRab
      @SrValRab 3 роки тому +211

      Big brain

    • @ibby1238
      @ibby1238 3 роки тому +280

      I mean it works

    • @marcallerheiligen2644
      @marcallerheiligen2644 3 роки тому +220

      Also Apple: Apple M1 is faster than a Mac that thermal throttles

    • @klaydi5840
      @klaydi5840 3 роки тому +51

      @@marcallerheiligen2644 the benchmarks actually beat/on par than the mobile intel ones

    • @leonro
      @leonro 3 роки тому +64

      @@klaydi5840 To be fair, Intel is like 2 or 3 generations behind in fab technology (5nm compared to 14nm or 10nm). You can see the difference of going to a smaller node in Ryzen 1000 to Ryzen 3000, it's massive. Of course, the M1 is still impressive, but they didn't beat intel THAT badly when you consider that they should get some of that lead back as they close the technological gap.

  • @jesselioce
    @jesselioce 5 років тому +18720

    How can you expect an apple product with decent cooling. The guy's name is literally Cook smh

    • @user-ew2sz3ez4n
      @user-ew2sz3ez4n 5 років тому +1623

      Lol you just roasted all their products. Oh wait, they are burnt already

    • @BatBellyAviation
      @BatBellyAviation 5 років тому +132

      Jesse Lioce LMAO

    • @bluebunny3356
      @bluebunny3356 5 років тому +141

      No its Apple smh

    • @matteo3959
      @matteo3959 5 років тому +86

      Wasn’t his name APPLE?

    • @Ryucopasetic
      @Ryucopasetic 5 років тому +48

      @@matteo3959 I believe it was Macintosh

  • @AlwaysSunnyInBooTube
    @AlwaysSunnyInBooTube 3 роки тому +680

    "A slower CPU that does not throttle is faster than a stronger one which does throttle"
    SOOOOO TRUE

    • @triparadox.c
      @triparadox.c 3 роки тому +25

      Right.. It's all marketing..
      Sure, faster CPU can be faster for like 3 to 5 secs. But you don't use computer for 3 to 5 secs

    • @AntBeastin1991
      @AntBeastin1991 3 роки тому

      Fax

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 2 роки тому

      "This bad boy can clock your dreams; if they happen to be sub zero dreams"

    • @magica3526
      @magica3526 2 роки тому

      that's not strictly speaking true. if they were smart they would prioritize performance per watt, and newer/faster ones tend to be more efficient.

    • @ClaytonBridges
      @ClaytonBridges 2 роки тому

      amen

  • @blackilluzionz
    @blackilluzionz 2 роки тому +146

    M1 to intel “looks like you’ve got a fever, we’re going to have to isolate you”

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 2 роки тому +1

      Intel to m1 . Dont be a liar 5nm child
      ua-cam.com/video/2BooIC5qGO8/v-deo.html

    • @styx8383
      @styx8383 2 роки тому +2

      Intel i9 and thread reaper is superior

    • @adityajoglekar7873
      @adityajoglekar7873 2 роки тому +3

      *M1 max from behind to M1:That's MY boy

    • @doggo_woo
      @doggo_woo 2 роки тому +1

      @@styx8383 Ah yes, something eating 300+ watts is superior to something only using 30 watts.

    • @styx8383
      @styx8383 2 роки тому

      @@doggo_woo that's not even true

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC 5 років тому +5545

    I've tried to explain thermal throttling to my bosses and coworkers when they thought it better to buy laptops instead of desktops for our work. We use CPU intensive engineering software. The general public - even somewhat tech savvy people - don't have a clue about thermal throttling. The see i7 on laptop specs and think same as desktop i7. The PC companies also push a misleading narrative.

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 5 років тому +473

      Who runs the IT department?

    • @oldfag_adventures
      @oldfag_adventures 5 років тому +204

      that's just capitalism for you

    • @Thisguya
      @Thisguya 5 років тому +382

      i sell computers and have to explain that to people every day.

    • @Georgeoforce
      @Georgeoforce 5 років тому +114

      @@oldfag_adventures Truth. Built to break. All profit driven

    • @tristan6509
      @tristan6509 5 років тому +215

      It's not only thermal throttling, but a laptop core i7 7700hq is slower than a desktop core i7 2700k from 2011, of course it has vastly improved now, a laptop core i9 9880h has about the same performance as a core i7 6700k from 2015

  • @The_Curious_Cat
    @The_Curious_Cat 5 років тому +5880

    Everybody knows that a Macbook only works well in the gentrified air of a Starbucks coffeeshop.

    • @LackHapeLuis
      @LackHapeLuis 5 років тому +39

      Uhhh stop embarrassing yourself.

    • @arigarrido7116
      @arigarrido7116 5 років тому +403

      ahhh it's like i can smell everyone's rent go up

    • @liamlen8732
      @liamlen8732 5 років тому +62

      Alan That’s not a whoosh... don’t reference the subreddit if you don’t understand it.

    • @liamlen8732
      @liamlen8732 5 років тому +162

      @LackHapeLuis Get outta here Mac fanboy. OP is right on this one.

    • @4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
      @4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz 5 років тому +96

      The music at Starbucks is so horrible lately that even with headphones on it makes me want to rip out all the hair on my body on my bare hands. It doesn't help that every Starbucks also has the music jacked up to 11 which is apparently the default Starbucks speaker volume. They used to play a lot of old-school R&B, 60s/70s funk, and 80s "new wave", now it's an endless loop of overly sensitive lesbian singer-songwriters and really, really white guys singing Marvin Gaye songs. I haven't been to a Starbucks in months...

  • @nicholasmoore4284
    @nicholasmoore4284 2 роки тому +84

    Everyone: I cant wait to be able to afford a proper gaming PC
    Linus: Proceeds to M E L T a $500 motherboard for b-roll

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 2 роки тому +8

      "RAM is so expensive right now."
      Linus: "Look, we have a PC with 512GB of RAM!"

    • @ClaytonBridges
      @ClaytonBridges 2 роки тому +2

      well I dont think that was just for b roll, Im guessing that was a clip from an older video they did

  • @nonnnth
    @nonnnth 3 роки тому +294

    Apple heard you, Linus.

    • @josephgood2704
      @josephgood2704 3 роки тому +11

      Not really. They still stay at 95-100C which is the same for longevity and who is to say they aren't still leaving performance on the table? I mean they still have minimal cooling (literally none on the air).
      They have better performance because of a better chip, Apple did nothing Linus suggested.

    • @walker4541
      @walker4541 3 роки тому

      @@josephgood2704 well technically they wanted to make it fanless but if they used thermal pads to literally almost fix the issue they would be breaking restrictions which keep you from making a laptop with a hot bottom and would be forced to revise the MacBook before it even gets sold

    • @halami2149
      @halami2149 3 роки тому

      @@josephgood2704 9:40 He talked a little bit about why Apple didn’t put processors better for the form factor they’re creating. Also at 6:56 talked about the iPhone performance in comparison to androids, probably referring to the efficiency they have. And says “Why this difference in philosophy?” And they’ve fixed it with M1

  • @MA16v3
    @MA16v3 5 років тому +1697

    9:47
    "A slower CPU that doesn't throttle is not slower than a faster one that does."
    Well put!!!

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 5 років тому +7

      Exactly how it is.

    • @gredagerda8443
      @gredagerda8443 5 років тому +47

      The way this is worded is confusing to me. Is he saying Slower CPU without throttling > Faster CPU with throttling?

    • @ihavenoideahere
      @ihavenoideahere 5 років тому +73

      Yes, if the faster cpu throttles down a speed which is slower than the ‘slow’ cpu

    • @DH-rq7gw
      @DH-rq7gw 5 років тому +31

      Well put? Terribly put you mean. The wording here is awful and very counterproductive in getting the point across.

    • @abdulwahabvanreenen723
      @abdulwahabvanreenen723 5 років тому +11

      @@DH-rq7gw slower and faster is easier to say than the correct terms of less powerful and more powerful.

  • @samlewis3555
    @samlewis3555 5 років тому +2871

    Apple Technicians: ok, now let’s look at the cooling. What cooler should we use?
    Tim Cook: *o v e n*

    • @raycert07
      @raycert07 5 років тому +29

      Apple: none

    • @jag0937eb
      @jag0937eb 5 років тому +113

      Tim C O O K
      the clue is in the name

    • @joshuadoyle6260
      @joshuadoyle6260 5 років тому +5

      and he's comparing it to one of the best Noctua air coolers on the market

    • @pranavrajsureshgeetha3639
      @pranavrajsureshgeetha3639 5 років тому

      SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT

    • @ckompo
      @ckompo 5 років тому +9

      His name is Tim Apple

  • @gokulk2759
    @gokulk2759 3 роки тому +61

    linus: rips into apple...
    immediately after: HOW TO HIDE YOUR IP...

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak 3 роки тому +854

    This is deep yet true

    • @trackppl9038
      @trackppl9038 3 роки тому +18

      new MacBook 2020: am I joke to you?

    • @straat9066
      @straat9066 3 роки тому +2

      Those last few sentences are awesome. But they are headed into a direction more suitable to their users with apple silicon. Less powerful overall but more efficient for specific tasks, less heat, less noise, less power consumption. As much as I hate apple I gotta give em some credit.

    • @Jesus-cv1px
      @Jesus-cv1px 3 роки тому +3

      lol comment fail no likes on this video.

    • @squdardt.9719
      @squdardt.9719 3 роки тому

      @@straat9066 i think it’s more powerfull AND more efficient.

    • @straat9066
      @straat9066 3 роки тому +2

      @@squdardt.9719 Well you can think that but it's a matter of fact. They aren't going to be using those m1 chips for computational science or for enterprise. They are more suitable for low demanding tasks and light/tight hardware.

  • @justinbarrington-higgs6156
    @justinbarrington-higgs6156 4 роки тому +2698

    Came for the clickbait title, stayed for a well-reasoned argument.

    • @josephfox9221
      @josephfox9221 4 роки тому +18

      Personally I was a bit surprised he usually isnt so critical of big names

    • @jimmygonzalez8185
      @jimmygonzalez8185 4 роки тому +124

      But the title wasn’t clickbait. It was pretty much saying exactly what the entire video was about without.

    • @seb06_7
      @seb06_7 4 роки тому +33

      Ikr solid arguments and the salty mac users still disliked the vid

    • @asreks
      @asreks 4 роки тому +4

      Justin Barrington-Higgs ur comment is the clickbait

    • @justinbarrington-higgs6156
      @justinbarrington-higgs6156 4 роки тому +11

      @@seb06_7 I'm a Mac user and what he said is pretty much the thoughts of anyone who has been following the failure of the Macbook Pro line to accommodate Intel spinning its wheels at 14nm.

  • @emastre16
    @emastre16 5 років тому +1006

    I work selling cellphones and imo they don't tolerate it in their iPhones because from my anecdotal experience people expect computers to lag but have meltdowns the second their phone hiccups once.

    • @boostedmedia
      @boostedmedia 5 років тому +33

      I totally agree.

    • @obim4108
      @obim4108 5 років тому +91

      I'm the same way. If my pc lags I'll just let it go for a bit and fix it, but if my old android phones ever lagged I lost my shit. I think it's cause you can usually deal with your computer being out for a couple minutes doing a task, but I need my phone to work 100% for all tasks

    • @condiegov
      @condiegov 5 років тому +27

      I think they just have different departments, apple is huge and their projects compete with eachother. iPhones make up almost 70% of apples revenue. Of course they are going to have a bigger overhead and qa. Not to mention apple builds their cpus on site, and does not use other manufacturers cpu's for their iPhones. Macs have died out, it is easier to use premiere on a well cooled, similarly equipped machine, with faster render times. The only reason I see to use a mac is day to day use (web, emails, ect.) and macos specific applications. (swift)

    • @JordanHowellMusic
      @JordanHowellMusic 5 років тому

      Very very good point, and connection there. Huh

    • @TheMegamanx1978
      @TheMegamanx1978 5 років тому +1

      If I knew how to program I would make a lag app to troll cell phone users.

  • @ViaxCo
    @ViaxCo 3 роки тому +703

    Who is here after the new M1 Macs

    • @hamza6869
      @hamza6869 3 роки тому +8

      yo

    • @joshstruble1752
      @joshstruble1752 3 роки тому +26

      The Ryzen 9 5950x is still faster than the M1

    • @Xyler94
      @Xyler94 3 роки тому +160

      @@joshstruble1752 No shit, it's like comparing a Semi to a car in towing capabilities...

    • @25557813
      @25557813 3 роки тому +9

      proofing that Linus is completely on point

    • @user-ui7tk4sg6t
      @user-ui7tk4sg6t 3 роки тому +6

      Linus said he don't have answer , i thought he is smart to say that's what Apple is going to do they will make it own chip

  • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
    @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 роки тому +1467

    When 'le marketing' has been the answer for nearly 50 years.

    • @therealmistermemer
      @therealmistermemer 3 роки тому +16

      When yhey started not really. But now the iPhones have 4gb ram vs samsungs 16

    • @acehindiephoto
      @acehindiephoto 3 роки тому +36

      @@therealmistermemer the iPhone's optimization is decent, but the marketing for their products are so misleading.

    • @bronzkhrome4024
      @bronzkhrome4024 3 роки тому +6

      @@acehindiephoto and it always will be if you keep believing them for what-ever-fucking-reason

    • @SonYugioh
      @SonYugioh 3 роки тому +17

      The marketing team of Apple really know their craft

    • @mikethespike056
      @mikethespike056 3 роки тому +4

      @@acehindiephoto Good luck optimizing RAM usage when you're trying to run more than three apps at the same time.

  • @NotFinancialAdvice
    @NotFinancialAdvice 5 років тому +1378

    I bought a Macbook Pro just to have the most expensive barbecue grill in the neighborhood.

    • @yeyeohkillem
      @yeyeohkillem 5 років тому +16

      macbook pro trash tho

    • @bangolore7091
      @bangolore7091 5 років тому

      You got it

    • @NotFinancialAdvice
      @NotFinancialAdvice 5 років тому +70

      @@yeyeohkillem What??? It's excellent for grilling!

    • @28Justchecking
      @28Justchecking 4 роки тому +18

      Lol me took I went to Apple.
      And I showed them how it heat up 😂🤣
      The manager wasn't able to explain when I told him I'm still checking how to fill the consumer protection form is that by saying it's a laptop, heater or a grill.
      He took it and refunded me even after 2 months from the purchase 😂

    • @dozergames2395
      @dozergames2395 4 роки тому +2

      @@28Justchecking sounds like u sir are a WINNER

  • @cobaltretrotech
    @cobaltretrotech Рік тому +21

    My theory is that Apple has been planning on releasing ARM based systems for far longer than it initially appears. I think they were purposefully treating their Intel systems like this, not to fool consumers, but to make their Silicon chips look even better than they otherwise would be without gimping the performance of the Intel systems

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 9 місяців тому

      That's so wrong and shaddy... That's apple alright

  • @RagTagPwner
    @RagTagPwner 3 роки тому +55

    Watching this after the M1 and the 11th gen Intel puts some interesting perspective on things.

    • @ZephyrBassPiano
      @ZephyrBassPiano 2 роки тому +2

      The 11th gen Intel Processors weren't that better than the last generation sadly, but yeah

  • @risheesharma
    @risheesharma 5 років тому +451

    5:56 unrealistic. No Apple user would ever cover up the Apple logo 😂

    • @jaames
      @jaames 5 років тому +11

      Rishee Sharma i did. and will still do. 😂

    • @colewarner
      @colewarner 5 років тому +35

      One of my programmer buddies at work covered his up with a windows logo after his boss denied him a less expensive pc that would have allowed him to do his work better and got him a Mac instead. Works for a great hand warmer though if the building ever gets chilly.

    • @Black70Fastback
      @Black70Fastback 5 років тому +21

      true, every iphone case seems to have a hole in it just for the logo

    • @BombaJead
      @BombaJead 5 років тому +8

      I would if I ever decide to buy one, I mean you pay for that and then you advertise their product for free? nah as my marketing teacher says companies should pay you for all the free plublicity you give them by being basically a walking ad carrying their brands around.

    • @atomic5134
      @atomic5134 5 років тому +7

      @@BombaJead But then again, how would you know who you should avoid talking to if you can't see the logo?
      _This comment was typed on a Windows PC_

  • @daniellee2433
    @daniellee2433 5 років тому +1949

    "A slower CPU that doesn't throttle is not slower than a faster one that does."
    -Linus Gabriel Sebastian

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому +42

      Except in most use cases it is.

    • @hunterzone4846
      @hunterzone4846 5 років тому +38

      @@TexMex421 which cases?

    • @vadzimdambrouski5211
      @vadzimdambrouski5211 5 років тому +16

      @@hunterzone4846 Turbo Boost on light loads may peak higher on faster CPU

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому +9

      Everything - gaming and rendering.

    • @hunterzone4846
      @hunterzone4846 5 років тому +133

      Vadzim Dambrouski, yeah but on light loads you would barely notice any difference at all between the i9 and an i5. Let’s be honest here, who in their right minds would choose an i9 cpu for light tasks only?

  • @dk_boyblue
    @dk_boyblue 3 роки тому +193

    7:35 turns out they'd rather solve this problem by channeling their r&d money and workforce to their own M1 chip rather than fixing Intel's failures.

    • @todortodorov940
      @todortodorov940 3 роки тому +13

      Turns out their increase their profit margins by pocketing the money themselves then sharing some of the profit with Intel

    • @priultimus
      @priultimus 3 роки тому +12

      lol I would too, intel was shit out of luck back in 2016 they should've did better

    • @lithepear9129
      @lithepear9129 3 роки тому +6

      @@todortodorov940 nah intels just been shit lately

    • @nerfwalid9568
      @nerfwalid9568 3 роки тому

      100th like

    • @purpmint3116
      @purpmint3116 3 роки тому +1

      Intel sucks. But, Apple also sucks for doing this to their customers.

  • @prima6170
    @prima6170 3 роки тому +20

    I told my friend when he bought his Apple that it was a "good looking" computer.

    • @DrSchredder
      @DrSchredder 3 роки тому +1

      hahaha

    • @erniehelmholz3644
      @erniehelmholz3644 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah that's what everyone (including me) says to people they like and don't want to offend them😂

  • @samueljordan5601
    @samueljordan5601 5 років тому +2848

    Don't worry Linus I only use my Mac book in my freezer, it helps me hit 30 fps in csgo.

    • @xcharlybrownx13
      @xcharlybrownx13 5 років тому +46

      Really? Dam that sucks

    • @candianninjas8812
      @candianninjas8812 5 років тому +30

      @@apestogetherstrong341 lol

    • @samueljordan5601
      @samueljordan5601 5 років тому +52

      @@yobb1n544 don't share my secret

    • @tecloaf5950
      @tecloaf5950 5 років тому +7

      @@apestogetherstrong341 he was just jokin bud

    • @l.l.6407
      @l.l.6407 5 років тому +12

      @@apestogetherstrong341 r/woosh you, he wasn't serious idiot!

  • @ericchandler90
    @ericchandler90 4 роки тому +1970

    -More power.-
    -More performance.-
    -More pro.-
    More dongles.

    • @eastlondonhustler
      @eastlondonhustler 4 роки тому +88

      Don't forget
      More Dollars

    • @matissebilling2245
      @matissebilling2245 4 роки тому +8

      @@eastlondonhustler less for apple fans

    • @TEENYcharma
      @TEENYcharma 4 роки тому +20

      Pay more for less

    • @giovannyc.1724
      @giovannyc.1724 4 роки тому +6

      I disagree. They do live up to their innovation standard. They can innovate, go several generation ahead in technology, and amaze people on both apple haters and apple lovers to get more money for less

    • @matissebilling2245
      @matissebilling2245 4 роки тому +9

      @@giovannyc.1724 they can, but with the mac pro they sure didnt

  • @RyanKarolak
    @RyanKarolak 3 роки тому +26

    It'll be interesting to see how this plays out with the ARM machines.

  • @JOSECCB10
    @JOSECCB10 3 роки тому +5

    This is the first thing I noticed when I received an old MacBook for working, I thought that was a defect or maybe a dirty fan but after googling I found it's "normal"
    I returned the MacBook and a Mac mini was assigned to me with better cpu and ram but even so the problem is the same. temperature quickly increases to 100°C even if CPU usage is only at 60%
    And some times is slower but not as much as MacBook
    I understand how difficult is to have a good cooling system on that reduced case but I'm disappointed

  • @LundinSebastian
    @LundinSebastian 4 роки тому +3000

    "I buy mac cause it's so good for creative work"
    Me: *Laughs in rendering time*

    • @sukiratgrewal
      @sukiratgrewal 4 роки тому +51

      Me: laughs in south pole

    • @monbjra
      @monbjra 4 роки тому +131

      Optimization no matter how much you fucks wine like a bitch macs are better optimized. I only use pc for gaming or extra work when mac is bg. I prefer both for different reasons you are all clowns.

    • @methanbreather
      @methanbreather 4 роки тому +355

      @@monbjra 'optimized' for what? looking good? Because they are certainly not optimized for performance.

    • @shego98
      @shego98 4 роки тому +306

      @@methanbreather optimized for making money off of (not to say dumb) uninformed people

    • @AtotehZ
      @AtotehZ 4 роки тому +170

      @@monbjra So what you're saying is. If you don't know how to build a PC optimized for what you need it for, apple is better? There are PC builders out there who can deliver a complete system, the same way Apple does.
      There are literally no professional fields where Apple has an edge. All the programs you need to work professionally on a PC are more plentiful and versatile than the Apple counterparts.

  • @PCStPierre
    @PCStPierre 5 років тому +541

    I worked at Apple for three years. I met maybe three people that actually gave a shit about performance. They cared about the aesthetics, stability and simplicity.

    • @jayden6994
      @jayden6994 5 років тому +4

      Linus doesn't know about Macs being very dependent on turbo boost. So it's usually not great for tests since it's constantly turbo boosting.

    • @PCStPierre
      @PCStPierre 5 років тому +2

      Burnsy CEO define good product.

    • @jayden6994
      @jayden6994 5 років тому +17

      @Kamal Kristipati umm no many get to have finalcut pro which is really optimized and many use them because of color accurate displays. I guess many just like the apple experience too.

    • @Wongseifu548
      @Wongseifu548 4 роки тому +27

      @Kamal Kristipati ummm sorry alot of those creatives have converted back to windows fyi.

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 4 роки тому +17

      @Kamal Kristipati yeh specs dont matter when apple cant do what competitions does but apple claims about neural engines taptic engines and more sh1t because they know kids are so gullible

  • @jordankendrew1041
    @jordankendrew1041 3 роки тому +5

    Wow this is amazing, I have recently moved to a PC from a imac and its so much better and hella cheaper. I do miss the design though and the wow feeling of opening a mac

    • @jaysonwcs
      @jaysonwcs 2 роки тому

      I moved from an iPhone to an Android and know that feeling. I must say I'm much happier now.

    • @jordankendrew1041
      @jordankendrew1041 2 роки тому

      @Eeshan Baheti I do have to say I wanna try out an M1 but I just got a Surface Studio so will have to wait a few years to upgrade

  • @notnick7963
    @notnick7963 3 роки тому +20

    Love how half the price of "comparable specs" is in the monitor.

    • @rossgoosen7269
      @rossgoosen7269 3 роки тому +4

      It’s a single panel 5K display - 4x 1440p and around 2x 4K. Definitely going to be expensive.

    • @ZephyrBassPiano
      @ZephyrBassPiano 2 роки тому +1

      It makes sense though

  • @JM-dq7xn
    @JM-dq7xn 5 років тому +1088

    I guess you can say....
    Tim just want some laptops to "Cook"

  • @timpudge5816
    @timpudge5816 Рік тому +8

    this did not age well

    • @waytoobiased
      @waytoobiased Рік тому

      this was Intel era, that’s to be expected

  • @rogueanuerz
    @rogueanuerz 5 років тому +960

    in Dev. lab : What cooler should we use
    tim cook: *NO*

    • @vonpotatostein
      @vonpotatostein 5 років тому +19

      Tim Cook: Coolers? that's redundant! Our products are the coolest * sunglasses on and won't be fooled again plays in the background *

    • @will_i_sammy2028
      @will_i_sammy2028 5 років тому +7

      Dev. lab **ADDS COOLER**
      Tim Cook: You weren’t supposed to do that

    • @Aki-tu2pu
      @Aki-tu2pu 5 років тому +2

      wasnt his name tim apple? SMH ur so dumb

    • @Arora94
      @Arora94 5 років тому

      Just use Linux. Can be used on pretty much any hardware and is massively growing.

    • @ZILtoid1991
      @ZILtoid1991 5 років тому

      That actually happened with Steve Jobs and the Apple III, contributing to the computer's failure.

  • @t2bickley22
    @t2bickley22 3 роки тому +115

    Me watching this when the M1 macs are out well this is the exact opposite now 😂

    • @selektor2567
      @selektor2567 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah i was wondering that haha. Hopefully they do a follow up

    • @NotTured
      @NotTured 2 роки тому +3

      This video is so old like 9 months ago so why did they take that long to do that????

    • @Maciek2846
      @Maciek2846 2 роки тому +13

      @@NotTured 9 months ago? This was over 2 years ago.

    • @NotTured
      @NotTured 2 роки тому

      @@Maciek2846 yea sure

    • @Maciek2846
      @Maciek2846 2 роки тому +14

      @@NotTured 2021 - 2019 = 2
      And also this was posted in April 2019. If you think that was 9 months ago then you probably can’t count properly.

  • @danytalksmusic
    @danytalksmusic 2 роки тому +4

    I'd love to see an update to this video with the latest generation Mac laptops

    • @Goose____
      @Goose____ Рік тому +1

      "MacBooks are FASTER than PCs, and i think you all know why"

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur 5 років тому +697

    Watching this in 4K on my MacBook Pro made it thermal throttle lol.

    • @bayo2001
      @bayo2001 5 років тому +11

      ergosteur how? MacBook Pro’s don’t have a resolution of 4k

    • @ergosteur
      @ergosteur 5 років тому +49

      @@bayo2001 External display

    • @ergosteur
      @ergosteur 5 років тому +8

      @joshua broughton-herrick yeah this too

    • @ThePesident
      @ThePesident 5 років тому +2

      can i have like $20 lol

    • @xtritonx
      @xtritonx 5 років тому +1

      XD so funny hilarious and original

  • @Str4t0sPh3rE
    @Str4t0sPh3rE 4 роки тому +2901

    The only Mac I'll ever buy in my life comes with cheese.

    • @grummhd3020
      @grummhd3020 4 роки тому +66

      First you grate it then you bake it

    • @vichardvideo5017
      @vichardvideo5017 4 роки тому +7

      That why mac want to use ARM like iphone. Now i knew they want to design software rather optimize hardware (other than mobile hardware), because trends and profit margin

    • @yogeshjainbhansali8082
      @yogeshjainbhansali8082 4 роки тому +1

      Thats soo underrated

    • @lucasfranke5161
      @lucasfranke5161 4 роки тому +2

      The Mac Pro then

    • @azaril7780
      @azaril7780 4 роки тому +3

      Bruh, that just made my day 25% better 🤣🤣

  • @shounakjoshi2257
    @shounakjoshi2257 3 роки тому +241

    I believe M1 is Apple's answer for this video 😂😂

    • @crabrangoon2493
      @crabrangoon2493 2 роки тому +27

      M1 still sucks

    • @rajat1960
      @rajat1960 2 роки тому +41

      @@crabrangoon2493 it doesn’t 😂

    • @crabrangoon2493
      @crabrangoon2493 2 роки тому +15

      @@rajat1960 well your locked for customisation and u have a shit graphics card in built into the procceser. With only 8gb ram max

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 2 роки тому +11

      Their horrendous engineering created this problem, and instead of addressing it by improving their cooling systems, building slightly thicker machines to deal with the increased heat, or using less powerful processerrs that the cooling system is better equipped for, they just said "fuck up, let's use our own shit".

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 2 роки тому +17

      @@ZeldagigafanMatthew It's not just an Apple problem though, basically every thin and light that has the old i7/i9 intel H/HK CPUs all throttle like mad. Apple's solution is just to dump Intel's horrible design and instead use their M1 chip instead.

  • @smaranbadgujar7846
    @smaranbadgujar7846 2 роки тому

    That is why I always use macs fan control.
    It helps a ton in reducing temperatures of my macbook.

  • @kysputnikable
    @kysputnikable 5 років тому +1812

    Its because Apple designs their laptops to be used in Starbucks where they blast their airconds.

    • @raindropbebop
      @raindropbebop 5 років тому +172

      Starbucks is the only place I can work on my next manuscript. MS word definitely needs this i9 performance, ok?

    • @hitime.
      @hitime. 5 років тому +7

      @@raindropbebop what if Starbucks does exist in your area

    • @Wesrl
      @Wesrl 5 років тому +8

      hitime1234 MOVE to Seattle then move to a place that only has one

    • @FightingPinguin
      @FightingPinguin 5 років тому +66

      Starbucks is the natural habitat of apple products.

    • @root9065
      @root9065 5 років тому +49

      So true. You just described my boss lol. He also _thinks_ his iPhone 7 Plus has a higher resolution than my LG V30S which I always found cute. Because you know, as Linus said, Apple is targeting the less tech-savvy market, promising the moon. I suppose I'll never be able to help him understand what he's missing out on lol.

  • @manikyadav7234
    @manikyadav7234 4 роки тому +690

    This winter I'm dumping all my room heaters and replacing it with the Macs. A heater that can play audio and internet must be a well worth.

    • @fallofshadows2209
      @fallofshadows2209 4 роки тому +42

      For real though: My upstairs office gets super cold. Thankfully, I can just fire up my old 2013 iMac and the whole room will be warned up in no time at all.

    • @axkvs
      @axkvs 4 роки тому +4

      that must be expensive af

    • @arindamhansda5493
      @arindamhansda5493 4 роки тому +2

      It's not a good deal

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 4 роки тому +14

      Running hot and putting out a lot of heat are not the same thing. If you put a better cooler on a processor, it will actually put out more heat.

    • @superkooks
      @superkooks 4 роки тому +3

      Smart heater

  • @labedra
    @labedra 3 роки тому +1

    This is so TRUE, I'm waiting for ARM CPU Mac

  • @ourcollectivewisdom8769
    @ourcollectivewisdom8769 3 роки тому +2

    Linus should really update this in light of M1

  • @sfehlbaum
    @sfehlbaum 4 роки тому +691

    I'm sure they did market testing and people "don't like it when the fans get loud".

    • @savthmaall
      @savthmaall 4 роки тому +38

      So what you're saying there is that Apple consumers drove Apple to make an inferior product. Resulting in said consumers ability to buy a new machine more often due to improper cooling. Glad I'm in the Microsoft camp. Especially since my PC which was originally designed for Window XP is currently using Window 7. And I might add performing at peak performance.

    • @zoommair
      @zoommair 4 роки тому +22

      @@savthmaall go Linux and start flying

    • @man_v_machine
      @man_v_machine 4 роки тому +8

      I actually read somewhere that anti-cooling philosophy for macs comes from Steve Jobs

    • @sfehlbaum
      @sfehlbaum 4 роки тому +1

      @@savthmaall yep they couldn't find water if we pushed them off a boat.

    • @nebulous962
      @nebulous962 4 роки тому +1

      well you could always just make the heatsink bigger but i guess that creates an other problem what apple fans would not like

  • @leafbelly
    @leafbelly 4 роки тому +3196

    "I buy Apple computers for their performance" said nobody ever.

    • @arkhalis3682
      @arkhalis3682 4 роки тому +102

      Their Phones duh. Their performance is awesome

    • @leafbelly
      @leafbelly 4 роки тому +215

      @@arkhalis3682 That's why I said "computers." I agree: Apple phones=amazing

    • @arkhalis3682
      @arkhalis3682 4 роки тому +59

      @@leafbelly sorry. Didn't see that there. I swear i (wrongly) saw the word 'products" instead of 'computers' lmao 😅

    • @leafbelly
      @leafbelly 4 роки тому +40

      @@arkhalis3682 No problem. I do that all the time (and, I'm an editor for a living. lol)

    • @Kyrazlan
      @Kyrazlan 4 роки тому +18

      @@arkhalis3682 too bad they lack real utility.

  • @markwallace1393
    @markwallace1393 3 роки тому

    That is why I use TGPro on my mid-2012 MBP w 500Gb ssd and 16Gb Ram. I run Mac apps and hungry Windows 10 Apps concurrently. Yes my fan sounds like a jet engine when needed... But I have a great platform that doesn’t require annual registry fixes. Solid performer since 2012 and still going.

  • @Joshuaxiong2
    @Joshuaxiong2 3 роки тому +2

    1:01 I remember those when I was still in elementary school... maybe around year 1999.

    • @Adrian_Franco
      @Adrian_Franco 3 роки тому

      Oh yup playing bugdom was a blast on those

  • @CliftonSawit
    @CliftonSawit 5 років тому +685

    The footage of the blowtorch frying the motherboard was painful to watch

    • @gregaria3664
      @gregaria3664 5 років тому +16

      It was already broken lol

    • @sonicdie1
      @sonicdie1 5 років тому +1

      Lets Hope we can have Trump Censor these Video Games from getting more Stupid everyday I’m not hating on Linus but what the heck is happening to this Generation of Idiots more... People are becoming Lazy everyday and not caring what happens to their life they act like there is no meaning how to spend their life but play video games until the end !!! The New Generation are a disgrace to America. Trump 2020

    • @sonicdie1
      @sonicdie1 5 років тому

      Pranav Bains Just trying to get the message out there man we are being Censored for Supporting Trump its crap

    • @bepbep7418
      @bepbep7418 5 років тому +10

      @@sonicdie1 so your saying the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force are lazy? Each and every brach uses video games (simulators) for training...

    • @bepbep7418
      @bepbep7418 5 років тому +12

      @@sonicdie1 dude you have a video on how to fix a DS... And are bitching about gamers...

  • @jasb78
    @jasb78 5 років тому +386

    This was some of the best written content in years on this channel. Very good technical analysis!

    • @naynyamish270
      @naynyamish270 5 років тому +3

      They hired some big gun on the script

    • @shamrocks521
      @shamrocks521 5 років тому

      @alwayslikeaboss how so?

  • @TheStopwatchGod
    @TheStopwatchGod 3 роки тому +1

    7:06 Except when it’s charging.
    I was able to play Real driving simulator on my iPhone from 100% to 0% and it was LOCKED at 60fps all the time. It did get very hot though.

  • @TimeToSnitch
    @TimeToSnitch 3 роки тому

    Alter wie nice die Qulai aussieht. Ich finde du gibst dir in letzter Zeit echt mühe man.

  • @Vitonezz
    @Vitonezz 5 років тому +1477

    Linus: "You cant avoid laws of physics"
    Apple Engineers: "What is physics?"

    • @sasca854
      @sasca854 5 років тому +26

      Lol Apple's engineers are smarter than you could ever hope to be.

    • @Vitonezz
      @Vitonezz 5 років тому +103

      @@sasca854 Well, not really. Since Linus made clear crystal, they think they're smart, but only fools believe in apple products.

    • @doditwidihantoro7228
      @doditwidihantoro7228 5 років тому +17

      do u mean apple only knows law not physics? oh yeah... off course they know how to make profit on that one.

    • @Vitonezz
      @Vitonezz 5 років тому +59

      Apple fanboys are the worst kind of fanboys. Even with FACTS in front of their faces they cant accept the reality. Its easier to make personal attacks. If you cant understand what linus just said in here, you deserved to be the idiot you are.
      Keep buying your defective apple shit, its made exacly for morons like you.

    • @Vitonezz
      @Vitonezz 5 років тому +23

      @alysdexia Sure, just focus on that, i was on mobile and typed fast. But hey, if you like the crap apple make, its cool. Its your money that youre wasting, not mine.

  • @frighteningspoon
    @frighteningspoon 5 років тому +251

    Gonna be waiting for that Tim Apple Interview video now, Linus

  • @Hardcore_Remixer
    @Hardcore_Remixer 2 роки тому +2

    0:10 It depends on what components you choose. In the specs from the right I see a 9th generation Intel Core I9 and we all know that an AMD Ryzen CPU is either better (at least multi-threading) or cheaper than an Intel CPU.

  • @Tedhiunglii
    @Tedhiunglii 3 роки тому +11

    7:25 after hearing this, apple made the m1. Ohk noice linus.

  • @bantot1296
    @bantot1296 5 років тому +275

    Apple: _I'm gonna pretend I didn't see this_

    • @Xenoray1
      @Xenoray1 5 років тому +6

      Apple: Reparing ? DOESNT EXIST

    • @bantot1296
      @bantot1296 5 років тому +1

      @Mekashin Reddy Thanks!

    • @ThePotchika
      @ThePotchika 5 років тому

      @@Xenoray1exits for only 1 million dollars :)

    • @prime201
      @prime201 5 років тому

      Lmfao

    • @ThePotchika
      @ThePotchika 5 років тому

      @@jaolu8198 why the hate on the workers?

  • @SamCircuit
    @SamCircuit 5 років тому +334

    Apple technicians - how slim do you want an i9 laptop to be...
    Tim Cook - Y E S

    • @1972LittleC
      @1972LittleC 5 років тому +22

      Not completely true, I think it's more like
      Apple Marketing - how much slim do you want an i9 laptop to be
      Tim Cook - Yes
      Apple technicians - But...
      Tim Cook - I SAID YES.

    • @bardokobama1035
      @bardokobama1035 5 років тому

      Man can you explain what you mean by the statement its everywhere on internet

    • @ebubeawachie
      @ebubeawachie 5 років тому +1

      @@1972LittleC
      Or more like
      Design team - how slim do you want an i9 MacBook Pro to be?
      Tim Cook - Yes
      Apple Technicians - But...
      Tim Cook - I said YES
      Apple Technicians - But Sir!!!???
      Tim Cook - *swearing* when I fucking say yes, I don't fucking change my mind.
      Apple Technicians - But Sir, AirPower...
      Tim Cook - You're fired!!!
      Apple Technicians - You mean me?
      Tim Cook - The whole technical department. You're all fired. Rip it up, we start from scratch. Fuck! 😫

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/XV5eGNe81us/v-deo.html

    • @leviram4089
      @leviram4089 5 років тому +4

      Tim Apple*

  • @douglashero3261
    @douglashero3261 2 роки тому +2

    Clearly, looking back, it was the difference between the running hot intel chips, and the newer m1 and M1x chips that would come out over the next 2 years. They were already building chips to work in the sleeker MacBook design.

  • @MathewFisher124
    @MathewFisher124 3 роки тому

    I wonder if your views will change when you get your hands on a apple silicon Mac, I was going to upgrade my 2015 iMac this year but definitely waiting now 👌

  • @Moonwired
    @Moonwired 5 років тому +140

    The answer is pretty simple, the mobile department and the computer department are completely split.

    • @marcleblanc3225
      @marcleblanc3225 5 років тому +14

      Sure, but that doesn't really explain why the company has such different design philosophies for their flagship products. It's honestly a bit shocking.

    • @ryanh3381
      @ryanh3381 5 років тому +12

      @@marcleblanc3225 Its because they design their own processors for the iPhones, and are using Intel for the Laptops.

    • @odinsplaygrounds
      @odinsplaygrounds 5 років тому +5

      It's actually sad but I can understand it. The iphone is simply a more popular product compared to macs. Macs used to be their biggest focus many years ago before the iphone, now it gets barely any attention from them. You often see how they release new versions without bothering to throw an event or announcement, just put it up on the web and not give a shit. Not to mention some stupid design choices (keyboard and thermal in particular) they did with their MBP lineup.

    • @xponen
      @xponen 5 років тому +1

      maybe equipment supplier wasn't honest with Apple, like for example if Intel wrote in their datasheet that their CPU can operate up to 95 degree Celsius it contradict with common sense of PC enthusiast that it should be lower than that.

    • @JW-uz1ee
      @JW-uz1ee 5 років тому +2

      But that doesn't really work either.
      If Apple are ok with outting in high spec chips and having them throttle, they could just make a higher spec chip for the iPhone qnd have it throttle.
      I do think Linus touched on the reason though, Apple market to less tech-savvy rech users. It's really easy for someone to gloat about their i7 MacBook and hiw it has a better CPU than someone elses noteboot with another Intel chip (even if they are wrong), but when it comes to phone hardware, almost no one has any clue at all. So, since Apple make their own, they simpme make their chios 'just good enough' and leave it at that, knowing no one in their target market will directly compare their hardware to Samsungs, and if any non-Apple fanboi UA-camrs try, it will go over the heads of both Apple users and most non-Apple users.
      TL;DR, Apple don't use the internals of iPhones for marketing, but do use the internals of their laptop and desktop lines to a limited degree.

  • @eyevenear
    @eyevenear 5 років тому +1193

    Apple: We will squeeze an i9 in 1mm!
    Laws of physics: hold my beer

    • @prime201
      @prime201 5 років тому +126

      Laws of physics: I’m about to end this man’s whole career.

    • @user-ou9yi5tg4e
      @user-ou9yi5tg4e 5 років тому +25

      Sad that this joke is incorrect but still got likes. Just edit it to what prime said

    • @PS3RatBag98
      @PS3RatBag98 5 років тому +36

      @@user-ou9yi5tg4e 'joke' is 'incorrect'. Name checks out.

    • @pietro6227
      @pietro6227 5 років тому +10

      @@PS3RatBag98 No, he's right. The joke makes no sense.

    • @ScreaminMadMurphy
      @ScreaminMadMurphy 5 років тому +13

      your usage of the meme is incorrect. Were the laws of physics to say "hold my beer" to the remark made by apple, then when apple created it's 1mm i9 chip, a much smaller i9 chip would have spontaneously generated somewhere in the universe as a response.
      Please amend this mistake by committing unable-to-connect.

  • @kaito2297
    @kaito2297 3 роки тому +113

    m1chips: let me introduce myself

  • @cristianpalastea6828
    @cristianpalastea6828 2 роки тому +1

    Glad to hear that you mencion Louis Rossmann,that guy is an hero for a lot of people

  • @zonyyu8412
    @zonyyu8412 5 років тому +567

    Wrong. My 12inch MacBook is a lot faster than my gaming PC
    When I throw it across the room at 20m/s

  • @user-nf4hd8bq2y
    @user-nf4hd8bq2y 4 роки тому +579

    "When their computers fry, they'll have to buy NEW ONES! MWAHAHAHAHA!" --Cashgrab Cook

    • @LiberatedMind1
      @LiberatedMind1 3 роки тому +9

      Bingo.

    • @camila_lt
      @camila_lt 3 роки тому +7

      Exactly

    • @elhistoriero1227
      @elhistoriero1227 3 роки тому +28

      And they'll buy Macs again because they don't want to be seen as "poor"

    • @VintageCR
      @VintageCR 3 роки тому +3

      @@elhistoriero1227 in my eyes, you are only poor when your pc is slow or cooked ;) ask Tim.. he knows.

    • @NvanRoblox
      @NvanRoblox 3 роки тому

      Well does anyone know whats going to happen in a few days

  • @Lazarsebaolar
    @Lazarsebaolar 3 роки тому

    OMG, that Turbo Boost animation at 6:00 almost cooked my brain by overloading it with imagery

  • @patjehuitinga6613
    @patjehuitinga6613 3 роки тому

    I’m glad I got the 16inch. Do a lot of rendering 3D using CPU or GPU power. Not even hitting the 80 degrees rendering for 12 hours.

  • @turboturd7954
    @turboturd7954 5 років тому +184

    Linus your honesty in reviews lately is admirable, keep it up and much respect to you!

  • @Camelotsmoon
    @Camelotsmoon 4 роки тому +596

    Apple: We're gonna advertising the laws of thermodynamics away.

  • @xy_77
    @xy_77 3 роки тому +1

    *Did you review iMac Pro? I seriously consider buying that machine.*

  • @phoboskittym8500
    @phoboskittym8500 3 роки тому

    One of the things i use my gaming laptop is for VJing (video mixing live at parties) macs are so trendy and in that space all the DJs are using macs... So naturally some vjs assume a mac is good for them, not understanding just how resource heavy Vjing and video editing and mixing can be, and your average dj set is an hour, your average party might only have ONE vj preforming the whole night 10pm-6am i have seen mac users vj with their computer sitting on top of an industrial fan just to keep it cool...
    My laptop made for gaming has crazy heat syncs and large fans with a fan boost button for when doing hot stuff like gaming...

  • @gril.gasper
    @gril.gasper 5 років тому +703

    10:20 Linus: "There's nothing magical"
    But there IS! it's magical how many people are still buying these

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 5 років тому +36

      It's because MacOS is about a decade ahead of any other OS's user experience. I switched from Gentoo even.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 5 років тому +88

      @@MisakaMikotoDesu Yeah - so far ahead that it has .. oh right, no new features, lacks features others have had for a decade, and oh right - actually has the worst security but just hardly any viruses cause hackers don't even bother for such a tiny minority.

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 5 років тому +28

      ​@@ABaumstumpf I'm sorry you're a fanboy. I've used Windows, Linux and MacOS about as long as any of the others. I also use FreeBSD on my VPS and home server. I still use Windows (unfortunately) on my gaming PC. MacOS is the best to use as a daily driver desktop OS out of all of them, no competition.

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 5 років тому +50

      @@MisakaMikotoDesu there's no way to determine which UI is objectively best. usually its what you grew up with using or you get used to it due to work. people buy these things because they have conservative good looks and are a status symbol

    • @TheDragonSlaughterIV
      @TheDragonSlaughterIV 5 років тому +33

      @@MisakaMikotoDesu Hey Dogshit company product user. This amazing guy, Linus is literally talking about thermal throttles and cooling systems. Not using your dumb ass product to watch Dora the explorer. Did you even watch the video Dogshit company product user? The guy above definitely did since it's the subject of the video anyways.

  • @Guest-sl2qb
    @Guest-sl2qb 5 років тому +399

    When the marketing people tell the engineers how to make a good product. This happens..

    • @glenby2u
      @glenby2u 5 років тому +11

      and the bean counters got greedy listening to marketing.

    • @GreenDayGA
      @GreenDayGA 5 років тому +7

      Im sure they are selling more products this way because most of their customers just want an apple product that looks good and works

    • @_Zekken
      @_Zekken 5 років тому +9

      @@GreenDayGA except they look good and dont work.
      And its not like other companies make ugly laptops either.

    • @Madrrrrrrrrrrr
      @Madrrrrrrrrrrr 5 років тому

      GreenDayGA and don’t forget: they won’t buy a half inch laptop anymore these days.

    • @Guest-sl2qb
      @Guest-sl2qb 5 років тому +1

      @@GreenDayGA that kind of business practices won't work on the long term.
      all of you guys made a solid point though.

  • @matt-be8lc
    @matt-be8lc 3 роки тому +3

    I thought mac's performed better with the same specs? With more optimization etc? Or is this about how certain apps are more optimized for windows?

    • @catgirlQueer
      @catgirlQueer 2 роки тому +1

      windows is just a hulking mess tbh

    • @Diegoloco
      @Diegoloco 2 роки тому

      Technically apps are better optimized on macs than on windows. But bc apple has been making their macbooks slimer and slimer it gets very hot inside them and they can't run at full speed, so unless you have your macbook cracked open and inside a freezer I don't think it's gonna run faster. And again if the cooling was good it would be way better than a lot of windows PCs.

  • @danielkinney6518
    @danielkinney6518 3 роки тому +5

    Interesting. I always thought the tiny slit that the fan blows air out of on my MacBook Pro wasn't enough to get good performance. This confirms my theory.
    I'm also now especially impressed with the fact that it can run DCS in multiplayer.

  • @philipboug
    @philipboug 5 років тому +491

    Hey Linus... Thanks for the constantly amazing content...
    I am a dinosaur... 75 years old with a long career supporting IBM and compatible mainframes.
    An old piece of mainframe lore... "All CPUS wait at the same speed"
    Hey... It's true! So if your OS or multi-CPU workload did not manage the CPU usage well, then guess what..?

    • @fred_e
      @fred_e 5 років тому +44

      A runner that won't race is as fast as a runner that can't?

    • @MrWatchtower
      @MrWatchtower 5 років тому +10

      @@fred_e .....Actually....makes a point there.

    • @tejaspadhye
      @tejaspadhye 5 років тому +7

      Apple's agenda still is people who care about software should make their own hardware. Then I guess they should start making their own CPUs as well for PCs....

    • @anshchaudhary9193
      @anshchaudhary9193 5 років тому +10

      You are a dinosaur and your picture is of a cat 🐈

    • @CVNG216
      @CVNG216 5 років тому +4

      @@tejaspadhye Incase you haven't heard, they are moving away from Intel. Next year they'll use their own CPUs in their laptops.

  • @kukilkashyapborgohain4643
    @kukilkashyapborgohain4643 3 роки тому +188

    I like Linus for the fact that he knows what he speaks. A real tech reviewer. It's just funny to see people following some other reviewer who just explains about the looks and feels of the products.

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 2 роки тому +8

      Those people say Linus is a joke for "not talking about the looks and feels" like bruh. No one gives a fuck about how it looks.

    • @Wireball
      @Wireball 2 роки тому +4

      Looks and feels of the products. Ah yes, advertisers.

    • @guruthecodershorts791
      @guruthecodershorts791 2 роки тому +1

      @@Wireball ijustine and unbox therapy

    • @ciri151
      @ciri151 2 роки тому +5

      @@tomikun8057 you have no clue wtf you're talking about. The average consumer does not give 2 shits if their system is 5% faster or not.. hell.. the average Joe doesn't even know what a processor is.. they do however care about how it looks and the build quality etc..

    • @amanosatoshitranslates
      @amanosatoshitranslates Рік тому +1

      @@ciri151
      they will care if they know their pc will die easily.

  • @Galaxy-Creator
    @Galaxy-Creator 3 роки тому

    I have a 2019 macbook air for school and what i use it for mostly word processing and watching youtube and thats it so the cooling isnt that bad. Mein only hits 80c at peak from what i have recorded

  • @franciscotrigo9656
    @franciscotrigo9656 3 роки тому

    Very clear!

  • @USSVTV
    @USSVTV 5 років тому +311

    I'm so happy you and Louis broke bread and are now regularly mentioning eachother on your channels. I've been a subscriber of his for ages and was so happy the first time you two collabed. It speaks to your character and lack of ego that you're able to benefit from eachother's knowledge and give the viewer a much more informative experience.

    • @VaydaladaVodalada
      @VaydaladaVodalada 5 років тому +8

      I just wish Linus would get rid of Riley at this point.

    • @___Robin___
      @___Robin___ 5 років тому +27

      @@VaydaladaVodalada why Riley is funny..

    • @Adi-vq2ek
      @Adi-vq2ek 5 років тому +6

      @@VaydaladaVodalada Riley, no, Jake, Heck Yeah!!!!*

    • @Drakey_Fenix
      @Drakey_Fenix 5 років тому

      @@VaydaladaVodalada Any reason for that?

    • @Hellios92
      @Hellios92 5 років тому +2

      Actually channels on youtube collaborate in order to boost each others views/income. Still, both channels are great.

  • @pixelgreen5837
    @pixelgreen5837 5 років тому +1381

    2.3k Macbook users disliked the video because the thermal throttle made them think the video was published with 20% dropped frames

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 5 років тому +9

      And they don't have a 21/9 ratio screen...

    • @Ximme
      @Ximme 5 років тому +10

      chucku00 this video is in 18/9 wdym?

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 5 років тому +2

      @@Ximme My bad, you're right. But I still don't know any Apple screen with a 18/9 ratio.

    • @Ximme
      @Ximme 5 років тому

      chucku00 yes that's true, the new iphones are something between 18/9 and 21/9.

    • @chucku00
      @chucku00 5 років тому +5

      @@Ximme iPhones aren't MacBooks.

  • @TheMx5Channel
    @TheMx5Channel 3 роки тому +1

    Its like some cars, yes they have alot of horsepowers for a few minuts but when the turbo heats up and the engine power gets reduced. Meanwhile a less powered car can maintain max horsepower for much longer without failing and even tho it makes less power just on race tracks you see often the simple cars racing and the modern cars in the pit cooling after 5 laps.

  • @tbdrosa8542
    @tbdrosa8542 3 роки тому

    Do you think this problem with Thermals and performance overall might change with the release of their own Silicon?

  • @metalface8515
    @metalface8515 5 років тому +360

    You should do a LTT vs LTT employee 5-person competition, where they have 1 day to come up with a solution to cool the Macbook and whoever has the best price-to-performance solution (noise counts) wins.

    • @1_GigaWaffle
      @1_GigaWaffle 5 років тому +43

      The solution is to not turn it on. No power = no heating.

    • @terminatedtag930
      @terminatedtag930 5 років тому +1

      Should exclude thermal place replacement or both sides should be allowed to use the same thermal paste.

    • @AliM-qr8lq
      @AliM-qr8lq 5 років тому +1

      @@1_GigaWaffle hehehe

    • @epikgamerwmp
      @epikgamerwmp 5 років тому +3

      Scrapyard Wars - Mac Edition

    • @BenjaminDls
      @BenjaminDls 5 років тому +1

      Linus will take the bloweematron then (don't remember how to spell it)

  • @harshvaghela47
    @harshvaghela47 5 років тому +355

    Your last sentence.. "They simply can't ignore the laws of Physics".... They actually tried to ignore and the AirPower fiasco happened.

    • @LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem
      @LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem 5 років тому +10

      That wasn't impossible, but it would cost too much to be viable.

    • @danielhu6485
      @danielhu6485 5 років тому +23

      @@LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem Nah the reason why they canceled Airpower is that it is actually impossible with our current technology, as it's impossible to put that many wireless charging coils together without generating an absurd amount of heat and creating a Note 7 version wireless charging mat. So yeah, Apple did attempt to ignore the laws of physics for a second time.

    • @chetanaik
      @chetanaik 5 років тому +2

      @@danielhu6485 They could have used exotic materials for the induction coils, a lower resistance conductor would generate less heat. Thus, costs too much to be viable. The tech is pretty straightforward.

    • @danielhu6485
      @danielhu6485 5 років тому +3

      @@chetanaik Exotic materials such as?? Copper, the material they were going to use, already has a really small resistance, so I doubt that there is a CURRENT material that could actually work. Sure, in the FUTURE, they could probably get the tech to work, but right now I simply don't think its possible to mass-produce an AirPower product.

    • @chetanaik
      @chetanaik 5 років тому +4

      @@danielhu6485 Silver for instance is a better conductor than copper. Very expensive true, but very easy to produce and manufacture. There's also the possibility of special thermally conductive (but electrically non conductive) materials being used to dissipate heat over a larger area.
      You could also implement an active cooling system, as resistance does increase with temperature. This would probably not meet apple 'slickness' guidelines though.
      The heat dissipation is easily done, but it's not really worth the price or the effort for something so inane.
      Edit: "easily" done is an exaggeration, but yes can be done

  • @michaelbrown3898
    @michaelbrown3898 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Linus, does the new Apple silicon in Macs change any of this?

    • @tomaszargentynczyk8635
      @tomaszargentynczyk8635 Рік тому

      of course they did, but Linus wont praise Apple for anything. Bashing Apple is much more clickable ;)

  • @MR-to4yp
    @MR-to4yp 2 роки тому

    I saw they throttled when I opened the Mac version of task manager. I just never knew it was because of thermal issues.

  • @julian5857
    @julian5857 5 років тому +597

    Now for only 999!!! The new bacon cooking plate; MacBook Pro.

    • @TehComs
      @TehComs 5 років тому +8

      iRasher, the ONLY IoT bacon rasher that keeps track of your grease in real time!

    • @erikS99
      @erikS99 5 років тому +4

      If i am gone buy mac i will use i muvie or final cut pro but if I want to use premier I will never buy apple.

    • @user-gv6ph1jb2u
      @user-gv6ph1jb2u 5 років тому +6

      more like 4999

    • @jasongooden917
      @jasongooden917 5 років тому +8

      999, must be on sale

    • @BrawndoQC
      @BrawndoQC 5 років тому +1

      @@TehComs that prize goes to the Razer blade

  • @briansalo
    @briansalo 5 років тому +755

    You guys should pay someone to go to a keynote and shout WHAT ABOUT THERMAL THROTTLING because that would be v good content.

    • @xoniq-vr
      @xoniq-vr 5 років тому +30

      I'd volunteer!

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 5 років тому +9

      That would be funny though how apple would react

    • @loganholmberg2295
      @loganholmberg2295 5 років тому +17

      He should send one of the "unknowns" in his staff just like he did with the pre built gaming PC series!

    • @DeputyNordburg
      @DeputyNordburg 5 років тому +1

      He should do it for the small PCs that throttle far worse than this. That would teach them!

    • @loganholmberg2295
      @loganholmberg2295 5 років тому +2

      @@DeputyNordburg ? Which ones? The PC market is very diverse some make good ones some make bad ones. Which PCs are you talking about?

  • @onkaragarwal18
    @onkaragarwal18 3 роки тому +4

    M1 has entered the chat

  • @giovanniarriciati
    @giovanniarriciati 3 роки тому

    Would love this video remake.🐣

  • @utkarsh1874
    @utkarsh1874 5 років тому +91

    Engineers : What cooler should we use
    .
    .
    .
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    Tim Apple : We don't do that here.
    .
    .
    .
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    Users : *_THERMAL THROTTLE_*

    • @andrewc1036
      @andrewc1036 5 років тому +2

      At apple, users are the coolers

    • @Lostrocker
      @Lostrocker 5 років тому +1

      Tim Cooks Cpus

  • @morganleek4788
    @morganleek4788 5 років тому +102

    I'd be interested to see a Mac Mini transferred to a PC case with proper cooling to see how it performs VS stock.

    • @pinocatozzo
      @pinocatozzo 5 років тому +5

      if the CHILL BOX results are replicable, I guess at least 25% higher.

    • @mrhats830
      @mrhats830 5 років тому +7

      Snazzy labs did a hackintosh that was actually smaller than the Mac mini and performed better than the Apple Mac mini. It’s on his channel from several months ago.

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому

      @@pinocatozzo Yes the giant "chill box" made my Linus using refrigeration parts is similar to a $30 PC case's couple of fans.

    • @pinocatozzo
      @pinocatozzo 5 років тому

      @@TexMex421 obviously the air would be way less cold but the parts would not be enclosed in a tiny box, sooo... :)

    • @TexMex421
      @TexMex421 5 років тому +1

      @@pinocatozzo Yes a tiny metal box that radiates heat, and has a cooling fan and heat pipes inside. so... It's too bad Linus does not own a PC he could do a test with. But he does own a "chill box" so that is just as good.

  • @user-lt9oy6td9u
    @user-lt9oy6td9u 2 роки тому +1

    Ditched my pc 9700k and got an m1 pro 16gb 512flash... the only thing i miss is Visual Studio 2022 and Age Of empires 4... apart from that everything else is awesome once you get to understand whats missing and how its done

    • @waytoobiased
      @waytoobiased Рік тому

      they fixed it, that’s why this video no longer is relevant

  • @blixtenmcdave2077
    @blixtenmcdave2077 3 роки тому +14

    This answers all the questions I’ve asked myself about my MacBook Pro, apple isn’t a company to rely on, period.

  • @IzumuK
    @IzumuK 5 років тому +520

    My macbook sounds like I am hardcore gaming when I only open like 2 chrome tabs.
    Edit: I never said i game on a macbook. i just said it sounds like it.

    • @glitchysquid1137
      @glitchysquid1137 5 років тому +24

      In terms of cpu, nah. In terms of RAM, "Rev up those fryers!"

    • @T3ch0verlord
      @T3ch0verlord 5 років тому +9

      Heh, "gaming"

    • @siimmrx
      @siimmrx 5 років тому +1

      Why did you buy it then?

    • @MrAbell12
      @MrAbell12 5 років тому +7

      Chrome turns my MacBook into a space heater

    • @G33KSPALACEdotCOM
      @G33KSPALACEdotCOM 5 років тому +7

      My MacBook sounds like it's ready to go to space when I use Photoshop or After Effects, it's insane. If only my job didn't require a freakin' Mac, I'd be in heaven.

  • @theerealatm
    @theerealatm 4 роки тому +771

    Imagine buying a tool such as a computer, mainly... based on how it looks. Oooh that hammer has no nail puller. But it looks nice. Buys....

    • @football-headlines
      @football-headlines 4 роки тому +28

      Actually if you are in a business sector and working with other companies and clients it can be really important. I personally use macbook mainly because of its OS, and spend probably 70% of the time on macbook and 30% on windows based computer

    • @honkhonkler7732
      @honkhonkler7732 4 роки тому +80

      @@football-headlines Important as a status symbol or what? Most businesses run Windows machines

    • @TheScrubmuffin69
      @TheScrubmuffin69 4 роки тому +46

      @@honkhonkler7732 I'm sure he's talking about like in meetings with other companies. It "shows" that your company has money

    • @jordanbabcock9349
      @jordanbabcock9349 4 роки тому +30

      @@TheScrubmuffin69 if you know what you're doing with it and why you have it. Otherwise you look like a businessman ready to throw money at anything, production and budget aside.

    • @kokorochacarero8003
      @kokorochacarero8003 4 роки тому +53

      Basicaly how women buy their things

  • @claytonpetree527
    @claytonpetree527 3 роки тому +2

    Also, pretty much all the 2013 MBP 15's have cooked. Mine did, as many others have :(

  • @cohli514
    @cohli514 3 роки тому

    For the MacBook pros I agree that they should add a lot better cooling because they have the space but with the airs there’s just not enough space the airs are to tiny