Landcruiser 300 off-road REVIEW
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- Landcruiser 300 off-road REVIEW
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I love LC. but for a 100K (140K) car they should include at least front and rear lockers as standard.
With a couple kilos of coke and some strippers.
Most people will never take them off-road so why would Toyota put lockers in it 😂
ATRAC!!!
Toyota sells it at 72kin china. I just bought one 3 weeks ago … plenty of them in stock
Gr sport variant has them lockers
As per usual great explanation of the vehicle hope we get to see the chop complete
Would have like to see it go off-road like you’ve done with other vehicles. And I guess having buttons makes a difference, we remember when you took the Defender without reading the manual and struggled in the sand a bit
Excellent review mate. If I was still in the market for a new one, I'd probably be very happy with the 300 (GXL or VX). I bought a LC 200 VX new in 2020 (first new car ever for me). Love it!!! Recently did Stockyard point in Byfield Qld. It ate it up, no worries at all, on stock suspension and tires at about 20 PSI.
Great video... again. Yes, I bought another 200 a few weeks ago to replace my previous 200. The new one had 40k on the clock, two years old and had no mods at all. I took advantage of the current market in that although I paid more for the 200 than it came out new, I also got more for my old 200 than I thought I ever would. My thoughts were also that the 200 was such a great 4WD all rounder and will probably retain better value over time as it's the last of the V8's. Similar to the last of the 4.2 Patrol engine. Time will tell on that. I also think that with the price rise of the 300 series, the aftermarket products will also be raised. I would personally never buy the latest model as there will always be a few things that need ironing out. The 200 had the excess oil burning issue. Let's see what comes out in the 300.
Great vid Ronny, I rather enjoy these type of new vehicle tests, whilst the vehicles are not always something I may select unless my powerball numbers come up....then I will need a massive bloody shed to house the car collection, the unbiased opinion of said vehicle is interesting viewing. The extra insight of Luke was a great touch too, cheers
Hey ronny love your videos man, keep up the good work, ronny could you do a video on SWB vs LwB in off road conditions pros and cons of each can't seem to find a vi's in the subject.
The bonnet flapping was the first thing i noticed when i drove one. Good car. I say 'car' because it can feel more like a Kluger than a 4be sometimes. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if you're after a big rowdy engine in a heavy/stupid body this isn't for you. It's pretty damn awesome on everything Aus can throw at it (i've done slop, loose rocky scree climbs, Vic high country, etc) but then again it should be for the price.
As others have said a great review, good to hear the good and bad, hopefully they will gets the panel fit ups fixed by the time we get our 300 VX, hopefully this month.
Knowing Toyota they will.
We bought our LC 200 VX in December 2019, I guess the things I'd like to have are the usb ports at the back, apple play and bigger console display. I don't mind the 6 speed. In our country, the Philippines, all highways has a maximum speed of 100 kph, so the 10 speed of the LC 300 makes a small difference. Didn't wait for the new series, other than that our LC 200 is just fine. Thanks for the good off-road review.
We have a chinese display in it, looks great and works great. Almost as big as a tesla display
How much philepin piso did you bouhgt the LC 200 vx?
Good review Ronny. I'd love to see a video or 2 on the 300 getting chopped and the mods he does to it.
Late model 200 over here have adaptive cruise control (Radar cruise as you called it)
Like the tailgate on the 200 better
Great honest review 👍👍
Great review. Would like to see when the conversion is done.
Thank you for this very detailed (and practical review). Apart from the tailgate (which I already suspected wasn't going to be anywhere near as practical and user friendly as previous generation LC split gates, there aren't a lot of obvious downsides to the new LC300s (apart from cost).
Looking forward to the GXL fleet delivery for the business towards the end of this year, or early next year.
Half the roof capacity - no flat second row.. 25% smaller motor.
One advantage of the 300's hatch over the 200's tailgate is that you can get closer to load floor and don't have to lean over to try to pull heavy items out of the vehicle.
That said, I like split tailgate -- the top opening gives me some shelter when fishing in the rain and the lower tailgate prevents items from rolling out of the back when I'm parked on a hill.
At least it isn't a side-opening barn door -- I hate those.
great review. would like to see updates and process of whats involved of the stretch
I bought a 200 2021 GXL new at list price. Very happy with it now I've modified It. Even after fixing the stuff that Toyota should have (lockers, big screen radio with Android/Apple, trans tune and lockup TC etc) I think it's a better value and better overall fit for me. The new one is lighter, which is good. Has it improved the load capacity or do you still need to do a GVM upgrade?
Hopefully they got the motor reliability right first up, the V8 diesel had some issues to start with. Toyota usually do good gearboxes but how is the 10 speed with heat under load? Does it hunt through the ratios or flare? Does it get to top gear before 100kmh, the old 6 speed needed a trans tune to fix that.
Great review guys. I have a black GR Sport with every option and loving it’s looks, interior and off-road capability. It has a powered tailgate so no problems closing. Bonnet does flap which is only small complaint. I think it would be an amazing tourer. Putting a black line Airtop Autohome on the roof will be my first mod. Sexy looking vehicle that turns heads. Very nice to drive. Lots of power/torque. Could be the best stock off-road vehicle on the planet. The missus even loves it which is a first. Doesn’t squeak.
Dam straight I want to see the end results
Thanks for the review 👍
Ronny thanks for the video and yes please would like to see the LC300 chopped 👍
Finally getting the chop. Looking forward to a review OTF
I enjoyed that!
How do you compare your ride experience with your Prado video?
Good review, I think it is a great car. In Toyota Saudi the GX Turbo Diesel cost around 87K AUD (including VAT) and it comes with front and rear diffs.
That’s so cheap compared to Australia
@@tilan6944 All cars are overpriced here.
89K
In KSA, it cost AED 150,000. I don’t know where you got 87aud from.
Here in Murica we get this Landcruiser ad the Lexus LX600. Same car. Excellent vehicles for refined offroading!
Interesting, a lot of the Toyota's I'm familiar with over in the states have black-ish interiors.
Now I can't speak for everything, just a few rigs I've poked my head into recently.
On a practical note, my Tacoma's roof lining/sun visors/door panels/dash etc overall is black with dark gray seats.
Enjoyed your review
Hi Ronny one thing I noticed when you say about shutting the back door even on the Fortuner that's only because of the amount of air getting trapped making the sealing of the car very good. If you open a front door or window it allows air to escape.
Keen to see the chop aka UTE version.
I have a 200 and have driven the 300. I still prefer the 200 because I am biased 😄. Kidding aside, I'd pick the 300 if I'm doing mostly city/tarmac. For touring, I prefer the 200 - it has more of that planted & bulletproof feel + V8 engine sound is sweeter and more effortless than the V6. Also, 300 engine bay has no space for a 2nd battery?
this was a great review mate
Very keen to follow the chop
To respond to your questions at the end, I did buy a 200 series when they announced the end of production and have no regrets. I love the split tailgate but hate the gearbox but the killer feature is the V8 sound (once the exhaust is changed). No doubt the new V6 is more powerful and more economical, but the V8 note on the 200 series just gets me on an emotional level.
Speaking as a grey Nomad planning to do another big lap towing a heavy off road caravan I'm seriously thinking about trading in my 200 series on a RAM2500. The price of a 300 series plus a GVM upgrade makes the RAM a serious consideration plus I can tow more with the RAM.
Please do a 300 series build Ronny !
Put my deposit down almost 5 months ago for a 300 VX, will be my first 4wd. Can't wait to get out exploring. Only wish it came with lockers and had better roof capacity, but I can live with it as it is.
No arguing the price has gone up, but the flip side of that coin is they're not depreciating second hand, they're selling for more currently!
So worst case scenario even if I don't like it I'm sure it won't be difficult to offload
More reviews soon Ronny surely. These were great
Be good for you to do follow up vids of the chop and then another review once its all finished to compare standard to chopped
Been waiting for Ronny to review this! Defo want to see it chopped!
Hi Ronny, can you drive Y62 Patrol next? A back to back?
If you had to pick between a 200 and 300 VX what would you go for Ronny?
I have had LC100 & LC200. Great cars. This is better. Just did nearly 4000km through rural victoria. The motor just wants to go and the transmission is really smooth. I love the way is backs down when you go down hills and when you tap the brakes it starts dropping down gears. Complicated, but it works. Super confortable. The tail gate is crap and android auto is usless. Glad I have it.
Would love to see the chop after its done. I feel like the LC300 from factory cannot be tuned or worked to give more power and torque against the LC200 with the V8 that has so much more potential with a tune.
I wouldn’t tune any of them, maybe it’s just been a 60 year old diesel mechanic though.
But is it worth the $55k extra on top of the equivalent Prado?
It tows an extra 500 kilos, big deal. 🙄
That’s an extra $110 / kilo of extra tow capacity.
It’s got 2 more cylinders.
The 150 Prado has 150 Killer Wasps & 500 Neutron bombs.
The 300 series has 227 Killer Wasps & 700 Neutron Bombs.
So my extra $55K buys me an extra 77 killer wasps & 200 Neutron bombs.
That’s $714 / Killer Wasp & $275/ Neutron Bomb.
Do you really need it at those costs and how much extra fuel used to achieve that? Also how much less engine life with twin turbos wringing the neck of that V6 to get those figures?
I’m not sold on the 300 series yet myself.
That said in fairness I haven’t driven one, maybe if it sucks my ass crack back between the seat and backrest under acceleration and puts a wide eyed stupid grin on my face I might feel different maybe.
Toyota honestly needs to come up with something to compete against the big yank tanks for hauling big boys toys over 3.5 tonne in my opinion.
Cruisers just aren’t going to cut it. I sold my 1HD-T 4.2 TD 80 series to tow my 3.5 tonne boat because the boat pushed the cruiser all over the road due to wind age on the hull and cabin. West coast sea breezes are pretty savage, just look at the trees in Greenough south of Geraldton that grow flat along the ground due to the wind.
I ended up buying a 7.3 Powerstroke F250 and towing the boat was chalk and cheese.
Making the 300 series lighter with alloy body panels etc to gain extra payload just means it’s even less capable of the 3.5 tonne towing duties in stiff winds here in the west.
Last thing you want is the tail wagging the dog.
If you want to tow the full 3.5 tonne (or more) then for cruiser money you can buy a 4WD dual can tray back truck & have a big chunk of change left over for modifications and accessories.
Cruiser 300 just isn’t going to cut it long term for what most guys want in terms of towing duties, at least here in WA anyway.
Yes they will get chassis chopped and lengthened and full sized trays added - but then your talking about ~ $250k + for which you can buy a couple Hino trucks ffs.
The sooner bogans just start saying “no” to the Toyota dealers and start buying real trucks the better - because we are talking half the cost of a house in WA.
Look at Justin & Bec (Trip in a Van), with their custom 200 series dual cab ute at around $240 k - ish and their caravan at $150k.
There’s your house cost!
Ones a depreciating asset that costs a small fortune you will never get back. The house appreciates - you can rent it out ‘ negative gear it.
The rent will buy you the Hino truck.
Can't really compare it to a prado because it's the next size up but apart from that I agree.
22.27 - the "comfortability" cracks me up! not having a dig Luke, just havin' a chuckle! Envious of your awesome vehicle.
Add 40k in tax to any of those models in Norway if you want it with backseats.
I have backseats for my Hilux, but they are stored away, cause the state demands 30k to put them in, just in tax.
I sill love the 70 series and the 76 wagon
Make sure you cover the ute performance after conversion, can't wait
Automatic doors are an available option as well as swing doors
Ronny did you find the interior and seats rattle? From the start of your video it does look like they rattle a bit.
The prices are keeping getting crazier and crazier with every model of land cruisers anyway a great touring car with alot of capabillities and if you think this is powerful wait until you try the 3.5 twin turbo gas version which has crazy power
looks at the used market crazier mate
Or wait until it gets an electric hybrid in it. The torque will be nuts.
Hi, great review. After upgrading the tyres for off road, what psi to run on road? For off road I get it, but on road? Should I use the vehicle default values?
If you are running empty, then the psi on the door jam is a good place to start.
If your new tires have a higher load rating, you can start adjusting downwards from there. I did the chalk test to check the contact patch to make sure all of the tread was touching.
If you are loaded up with several hundred pounds of gear, start a few psi above the door jam recommendation.
As an example, my truck's stock PSI is 26 front and 29 rear. I got some E rated 33" mud terrains, and when I was running empty stock weights, I eventually settled on 24 psi on all 4 corners. This gave me the best ride while also keeping the contact patch even.
Now after adding a camper shell, front and rear steel bumper, swing out tire carrier, engine skid plate, transmission skid plate, and rock sliders, I have bumped up the psi to 26 psi on all 4 corners.
As I prepare for a 3K mile trip and get the back loaded up with all my gear and things strapped to the roof of the camper, I will adjust the PSI again. I an estimating adding around 500lbs of gear, mostly on the back, so my rear tire PSI is probably going to go up more than the front.
If my PSI seems low, I have a 1999 Tacoma which is light weight from the factor (under 3500lbs stock). Newer truck's are 500-700lbs more stock, so they are around 30-32psi from factory.
They've gone up 10 grand already. Whichcar on 30th January stated GX $89,990 - $138,790 for GR Sport. This must be covid tax or price gouging. No wonder the Y62 is outselling the LC 300 last month. Idk.
My lexus ux200 shares some of the features with this.
But 600 version from lexus would be the go if you want more tech
Guys…….I suggest you probably need to slam the door to get good closure on the rubber seals…….e.g seals are new and need a little compression which would be essential for keeping dust and moisture out. That’s my theory……..once again a good honest story. Would love to see a project 300 mod series similar to project Luxy. Cheers
The crappy old Chrysler Town & Country minivan I owned had a feature where if the rear hatch was partially closed it would use a motor to finish closing it for you (so in this case where it doesn't close completely, the motor would kick in and close it). Can't believe there's nothing similar on such an expensive vehicle. Otherwise, this thing looks amazing.
You guys have more money and time than sense, pay $100k for a brand new vehicle then literally chop it in half and turn it into a different vehicle.
Sorry, that is ridiculous.
We accept your apology.
It is an amazing car, no doubt!
$150 plus accessories = Patrol plus 1 year earlier retirement = Second hand 200 new crate angine plus 1.5 yrs earlier retirement.
It appears to be designed for the dunes for sure (biggest Toyota market is in the middle east) but what's gonna happen in the VHC with all that aluminum?
It is the best car in the world for towing a caravan on bitumen and on unsealed road.
Time will tell the pros and cons and I'm sure there will be more pros than cons, but I'd rather go driving my 200 than sit the in the office chair earning the money to pay for the car I like to drive.🤔
Props to Ronny in these latest videos. His confidence is coming though now and they are a pleasure to listen to now. He has always known his stuff and is very honest but you could tell he wasn't so confident in front of a camera but the change in this is great and shows what people can do if we all keep at it and do things we love.
Ronnie I googled the roof carrying capacity of the 300 and it said the roof is rated to carry 92kg on GX models and 90kg on the higher-spec variants.5 Oct 2021. If this is true capacity is less than half of the 200. What do you think?
I'm in heaven in my 2008 Hilux D4D manual ute;
No buttons to press
No screens to read
But it does have this amazing interface with my human brain
It let's me select any gear I want
I have absolute control over all breaking needs
It even lets me control my own cruising speed
And best of all it gives me any 4WD mode I want
All just by thinking about it in my own mind .
And oh yes;
It came with an amazing cargo area in stock form (I was so surprised, who would have thought).
@@ChristosIsHe and driving in the bush without a seatbelt and no warnings of any kind.
I love mine!
Wishlist: another 20 litres fuel capacity, increase maximum roof load to 200 kg, proper 12 v plug in rear
Hitting the gym Ronny!
Great review R. I was looking at a GXL but was very disappointed to find out there is no GPS in that spec! You need to go to VX for another $18k. All other GXL spec Toyota 4WD’s get GPS how can it not be on their hero model???
Hi- where you in sand mode on dunes or just everything off? Taking mine out there tomorrow!
Just standard 4x4 Lo mode
i would love to see more of the 300 content also when its chopped
lc100 2006gx1st owner
lc200vx2020new
lc200vx2021new
all petrol
i m happy with lc200 because lc300 less one chair at 3rd row and tight on driver seat , also engine vs 5.7
price also jumped 4350$ on same configuration
5.7 is remarkable on pavement & off-road
Would like to see the Lc 300 after you have converted into a duel cab
Yes on the chop project
Great review... A really good question is... Where is the fuel filter located on the 300 ?? Hahah !!
How about hybrid, hydrogen or electric options?
Does it have adjustable suspension? And does it have off road drive modes? To me it looks quite low tech when compared to a discovery 5 but being out bush maybe that’s preferable
What's the 3rd row seating like? Being a family of 6 I notice there's not much on the market with decent 3rd row seating
The back end has the crease for a bit fold but is only a lift up
I think manufacturers are doing it deliberately now.
Used to be that technology was used to do things that couldn't be done before.
Now they use technology for the sake of it, which makes DIY repairs and maintenance impossible and ties you to a dealer until the warranty runs out and then, basically, makes the vehicle into a financial timebomb.
You could have bought a 70 series in 1985, serviced and repaired it yourself and it'd still be just as reliable today.
Does anybody seriously think that'll be possible with a 300 series?
Let's face it, this is a disposable product, just like 15 year old Range Rovers and BMW X5s etc.
nice you are lucky to get LC300, diesels and 70 series LC ,all we get in the US are indpendent rear axle , 3 row ,leather, sunroof, luxury wagons . id pay $73k US$ for a basic base model GX LC 300 ,,over a defender or new bronco ,gr sport is $111k us $ which we cant have
Seems like a good unit, be interesting to see how they go once people start loading them ala.. front and rear bars,winches,rooftop tents,long range tanks..etc..etc.
The payload for this large 4wd wagon is piss poor. Not a good selling point. Once you fit a steel bar(s), winch, 2nd battery, load the roof up, tow something strongly built on the towball you’re not left with much.
Interesting that the LX600 doesn't come with wireless charger in the front. Anyway, love this review, very thorough, though I've watched several of yours in the past as well.
you forget about the oil >they made it like Unimog > when you go up Mountains and hills The temperature always rises because the oil does not reach some cylinders .It was designed to address this problem
i'm interested in what the gear ratio is in reverse
I've got a 2020 200VX which has a GCM of 6850 kgs. I tow a caravan and I need every one of the kgs to tow it. To see that the 300 only has a 6750 GCM is disappointing. Also, a deal breaker for me would be that there is no drop down tailgate in the 300. Other than that, its looks pretty good.
What other comparable car has a split tailgate? It’s different, everyone whinging about the tailgate will come around eventually, you’ll have to.
The 300VX is 90kg lighter unladen but the GVM is 50kg less. Giving you a total load of 40kg more than a 200 of the same trim.
Split tailgates are pretty bad stock for dust sealing and reaching over to get into the back of a car.
nice review but on most off sand driving you can use Hi Range, this car have power to manage that terrain easly withouth Low Range.
I have the LC 200 VXS and I have Radar cruise control (Adaptive Cruise Control)
Cost of new vehicles is crazy. However it’s not the manufactures fault. Top of range 300 is 150k driveaway. This includes Luxury car tax = 26k, GST = 9k add dealer cost, stamp duty, third party insurance and registration. Take that off and the 300 is value for money. Gotta love our government
Great review I’m buying a GR it’s on the way
G’day I went 4 wheeling yesterday with a mate in his new 300 Sahara we drove some reasonably steep Highcountry Tks . The 300 handle them all without a problem but we did notice when ascending a steep low range Tk , when the vehicle was in manual mode it still changed up gears , which seems strange the stick was definitely knocked across into manual and showing what gear it was in on the dash , is this a feature of the 10 speed in the 300 , just doesn’t make sense and no we weren’t boring the piss into it , just climbing steadily.
does anyone know if there is an aftermarket split tailgate for the lc300?
Ronny what's your official response to using the 300 with only traction control system and no rear or front diff locks? I am very curious. So many bigger youtubers like yourself finally learning proper traction control systems off road can work very well, just took a 300 series to draw that attention to it.
Yeah want to see it chopped for certainty. Nice review, maybe I should change my order to the GXL from the Hilux Rogue...🤔
Just to correct you Ronny the 200 series did have radar cruise control it was just in the 2018+ series of the 200.
The more complicated they get the more I love me ol’ fte 100 series
Lol idiot 100 series couldnt pull the skin off a reice pudding. 120km/h top speed.
awesomeee video, dream of drive this tough monster on mountain some day
BTW How much do it cost including tax in AU?
He listed all the drive away prices in the video...
@@spudboy1328
Thank you David
Ya I know--- the price is good on the video 125k AUD for VX--
The price is crazy good compared to the sales in China-- at least two time price than Australia
Here it may write 50k while in the end you may need to pay 80 or 90k
Can’t wait to see this LC300 chopped. I was regretting not getting a.VX 200 series but I am more positive about the LC300. Great review Ronny.
I’m assuming when you said you were going 50-60 in low range, you’re talking kph? You mentioned imperial for the tires though, so want to make sure.
The price is high and I'm still waiting for the 285 tires. I don't understand why there is no rear door to the sides like the LC105. Everything else can be.
I know new V6 got a bad wrap before release. 9 seconds 0 100 and powerful enough… great review.
This is actually one of the slowest 0-100 I've seen for the 3.3 V6 diesel. The fastest time I've seen is 0-100 in 7.26 seconds. You will need to brake torque it hard though.
GR diesel dyno + 0-100 and 0-400m run: ua-cam.com/video/Uhbpf-4tNhc/v-deo.html
@@electrikoptik thanks for the link. Wow
Loving my 200
This is a 300.
I worry when I watch these reviews I sometimes end up at the Toyota dealership 🤣 that's how I ended up with the fortuner.
i wish toyota had used the 285 tires or even 295s on this car and better mudguard design, it would look really beastly.
A thing that is a big issue for me (and correct me if I am wrong) is that you don't get vehicle sat nav in anything less than a VX, even as an option. Phone based sat nav is no good once you lose internet connectivity, which isn't very far in Australia. I was going to order a GX, but decided not to until I can get sat nav.
vehicle manufacturer's satnav is rubbish so you shouldn't worry about that fact. The solution is to either use a good sat nav app or buy yourself a Garmin overlander.
And - you can put your phone/tablet into offline mode, where you can download all the maps required for the journey so it still works with no mobile signal.
Would it do just as well in the sand in awd normal settings? Is locking the diff necessary?
Not in sand unless you get bogged although I do like using a rear locker when going down steep dunes. Lockers are more for other terrains where you start lifting wheels ect
Would love to see end result
Yes show the chop please