@@zandercerlong9693 no guarantee the range extender will ever be available once they start ramping up production. 1/3 of the bed is taken with the extender which is not ideal. I really like the truck other than range. Towing just needs more range to be feasible.
Still waiting for the promised spec CyberTruck. Still saving for mine. Resigned to 2025 and closer to 400-500 miles range... because I DO haul & tow. (Yah, I KNOW. I'm not in the majority of townies... don't care, so I continue to save.) Like you said... "I don't care about the aesthetic, I care about what it can do."
LMAO. Only a FOOL thinks tesla ever “promised” a spec spec. You should probably look up the word promise. Was literally nothing more than a GUESS an estimated price and range. They will eventually have variants with higher range on the CyberTruck. They for sure have the room in the battery pack but WHY when they dont have the extra 4680 battery to make a high range truck when the foundation series buyers are mostly buying it to have it fist.
@@zandercerlong9693 With a few IF's in play Tesla might produce the low spec truck for the $60K. That depends on a good ramp and perhaps a more positive economy and lots of CT sales. I wold not call him a FOOL. By the time he has enough money saved he can get a clean used one at a good price.
@@TroySavary Get one while GM is willing to give you a truck at about 1/2 of what it costs them to make. I have mixed feelings about paying customers to take your product and claiming any cred for delivering on spec. Kind of like hiring a date.
The cyber Truck battery empty space on the bottom is a safety feature. It helps protect the cells from impacts and provides a vent space for cells that go bad. There are flame arrestors between that space and the outside world. So it is doubtful they are going to stuff it full of cells.
TFL and their first Cybertruck road trip showed me some good things and bad things about the CT: - Good: Ride quality, seats, drive all really good. - Bad: No FSD/AutoPilot yet, smallish yoke wheel combo, wipers were not able to reliably sense rain. Like a lot of things, the truth is between the praise one camp has and the hate another has.
The small wheel is a crapola opinion. Trucks have large steering wheels so you can turn them. Not an issue with PS but it is a bit of a clown show cranking that big wheel round and round to make a 'tight' turn. I suppose a big wheel on a truck with PS makes sense if the PS fails. It is pointless with steer by wire. FSD... We were told that they need to gather more data because the rear wheel steer causes the truck to move differently. Given that they have yet to update the rear steering to 10 degrees I doubt that they have started collecting data yet. No way to make this happen w/o trucks on the road. The more trucks they have on the road when they do collect data the faster it should go. Unfortunate but 'somewhat' understandable. We don't really know the score.
@@danharold3087A twitchy steering ratio sucks off road or backup up a trailer. You want to be able to make tiny adjustments. It is abundantly clear that Tesla did absolutely no research into the needs of truck buyers while developing this clown car.
Drew seems to be much more technical than most UA-camrs, which is one of the primary reasons I watch his channel, but sometimes he says stuff that's more than a little off.
Who are the 'they' in this case. Tesla is quoting 2025 delivery for new orders. We have no idea how many people will get the foundation series between now and then. Or do we??
I love my model Y but I need 400-500 rated range to tow my 7500lb trailer 100’s of miles for music shows I do production for, some are not near chargers.
In the beginning you made a great point about being on the other side or in the future of the story. I can't wait until these things are everywhere on the roads and when they get cheaper later. To me, the foundation series is just an extra $20,000 in dealership options.
I cannot quite understand what is the obsession with people with the amount of range a car gets. I am an Uber driver and I drive a Tesla model y performance. I bought my Tesla on September 11, 2023 that’s 283 days ago and I have put 50,000 miles on it. The average Tesla consumer drives less than 10,000 miles a year. So the range do trucks and cars are perfectly fine. For some reason, people believe that they go on a road trip every single day. Completely upset.
So just so you know, these are the wheels and tires that will ship with the RWD cheap version next year. I still can't believe so much is up in the air about this vehicle still. Can you imagine this truck in 5 years? That's the one I want to own!
Are the the tires actually that much smaller? They’re 35 in tall, what are the all terrains? Also the all terrains fit on a 20 in wheel, what are these? Seems like they just use a less aggressive tread pattern and maybe different compound as well as less moldings on the sidewall. And the aero cap only covers the wheel and not the tire.
The tires appear to be the same size. I believe that with those big hubcaps you are more committed to one single tire (you can always change later). I’m fine with all season tires. I don’t plan to run Baja, Moab, or the Rubicon in mine.
what i find amusing about the cyber truck is that my 2001 dodge diesel get 330 -340 miles a tank and that is while towing around 5K every single day. Ok correction 5 days a week as it just sits on weekends. I am not a hater either as I am on the wait list.................... afterall when I buy a truck I don't buy it looking at fuel milage but what can it tow what can it haul. now who all did I just piss off I'll wait
@danharold3087 I made my CT reservation about two weeks after the reveal event I think by some counters I was somewhere in the hundred thousands or so, if that's any indication of how far down the list they've gotten. It wouldn't surprise me if tesla ultimately sells like 50k of these foundation series at very very high margin...
There's a ra ge test our there. Testing 3 ride heights, with and without Tonno cover oven and, and, and with and without hub caps. Range was unaffected with or without the hub caps!!@!
@1:35 Each to their own ....for ages l've felt the 'plain vanilla' interior looks a bit cheap! I wouldn't mind more dark/gray Alcantara with stitching in contrast! More expensive to stitch such a long dash in a perfect line! imo
First off a 4680 is 10 mm taller than a 2170. Not even close to twice the height. The space in the pack is left there for impact with either road debris or off road obstacles. There is not enough room to double stack a 4680 cell. Could they fit in a 46100 or a 46120. Probably, but not a second 4680 with that design. They would need a deeper battery box.
I’ll take whatever tires and wheels that come with the truck. I would prefer to get the tax credit. I will be changing the wheels and tires right away anyway.
Tesla's claims of increased power for the 4680 batteries seems to have gone up in smoke, at least for now. I'm holding back on ordering until they bring out the RWD or lower the price of the AWD. Even though I wanted to use the truck itself as a rental business, I'm going to save up and gather investors for a food franchise instead. I know the food industry and once it's off the ground I can buy both a Cybertruck and Aptera as delivery vehicles. And afford another CT for personal use. Inshallah.
Doesnt matter to me, because my pre-order that I did in the official tesla mexican website a few years back will come to fruition in what... ? 3 years maybe ? till they actually start selling it in Mexico. :(((((((
@@entropyachieved750 “every one pulling out” for as many people who have canceled orders there are new orders being placed as people see the truck in person. They wont even get through all the pre orders for years to come. Anyone who doubts this is an ignorant fool and should be educating themselves before speaking
@@zandercerlong9693 how do you figure that? With the delays and issues and no Tesla service people who order today won't see it for 10 years. Who's that stupid, oh wait you...
IMO, Tesla is in polishing mode of this Stainless Steel 💩. Look at the new shiny and pay no attention to all the staining problems, amongst other issues.
As a contractor a white interior is just going to end up black or Grey anyways.
As person that cleans stuff, you're not completely accurate here lol
No it doesn't
@@possiblynicksome people dont have time to clean their cars every week
that gray looks SOOO MUCH BETTER
But have you seen the exterior?
@@Hank-yb3muNo never seen it. Is it nice?
Agreed. Trucks are not meant to be white inside.
Poor range is why I canceled my cybertruck order.
Get a range extender. By the time they got to your order number they probably would have models with more range
@@zandercerlong9693 what is the point of have a pick up truck with tiny bed?
@@yaobin1ppl buy rivians no problem
@@yaobin1 WTF are you talking about its a bigger bed than the standard Ford F150
@@zandercerlong9693 no guarantee the range extender will ever be available once they start ramping up production. 1/3 of the bed is taken with the extender which is not ideal. I really like the truck other than range. Towing just needs more range to be feasible.
Still waiting for the promised spec CyberTruck. Still saving for mine. Resigned to 2025 and closer to 400-500 miles range... because I DO haul & tow. (Yah, I KNOW. I'm not in the majority of townies... don't care, so I continue to save.) Like you said... "I don't care about the aesthetic, I care about what it can do."
LMAO. Only a FOOL thinks tesla ever “promised” a spec spec. You should probably look up the word promise. Was literally nothing more than a GUESS an estimated price and range. They will eventually have variants with higher range on the CyberTruck. They for sure have the room in the battery pack but WHY when they dont have the extra 4680 battery to make a high range truck when the foundation series buyers are mostly buying it to have it fist.
Good decision! I cancelled my order, I really have no real use for a truck. I just keep my MY and I still like it a lot.
@@zandercerlong9693 With a few IF's in play Tesla might produce the low spec truck for the $60K. That depends on a good ramp and perhaps a more positive economy and lots of CT sales. I wold not call him a FOOL. By the time he has enough money saved he can get a clean used one at a good price.
Get a Silverado EV. Already delivers on the specs Tesla promised.
@@TroySavary Get one while GM is willing to give you a truck at about 1/2 of what it costs them to make. I have mixed feelings about paying customers to take your product and claiming any cred for delivering on spec. Kind of like hiring a date.
5:35 what? 4680 is 80mm tall, 2170 is 70 mm tall. How is that double the height 😂
The cyber Truck battery empty space on the bottom is a safety feature. It helps protect the cells from impacts and provides a vent space for cells that go bad. There are flame arrestors between that space and the outside world. So it is doubtful they are going to stuff it full of cells.
TFL and their first Cybertruck road trip showed me some good things and bad things about the CT:
- Good: Ride quality, seats, drive all really good.
- Bad: No FSD/AutoPilot yet, smallish yoke wheel combo, wipers were not able to reliably sense rain.
Like a lot of things, the truth is between the praise one camp has and the hate another has.
The small wheel is a crapola opinion. Trucks have large steering wheels so you can turn them. Not an issue with PS but it is a bit of a clown show cranking that big wheel round and round to make a 'tight' turn. I suppose a big wheel on a truck with PS makes sense if the PS fails. It is pointless with steer by wire.
FSD... We were told that they need to gather more data because the rear wheel steer causes the truck to move differently. Given that they have yet to update the rear steering to 10 degrees I doubt that they have started collecting data yet. No way to make this happen w/o trucks on the road. The more trucks they have on the road when they do collect data the faster it should go. Unfortunate but 'somewhat' understandable. We don't really know the score.
@@danharold3087A twitchy steering ratio sucks off road or backup up a trailer. You want to be able to make tiny adjustments. It is abundantly clear that Tesla did absolutely no research into the needs of truck buyers while developing this clown car.
wipers?
The wheel size thing is personal preference. There is no need for the leverage that a larger wheel provides.
A 4680 battery is 46 dia x 80 mm tall. A 2170 is 21 Dia x 70 mm tall. A lot wider but only 10mm taller.
Drew seems to be much more technical than most UA-camrs, which is one of the primary reasons I watch his channel, but sometimes he says stuff that's more than a little off.
Yeah I was pretty surprised he didn’t know that
They say they’re running out of foundation series teslas, and yet here I am still waiting for a vin!
Who are the 'they' in this case. Tesla is quoting 2025 delivery for new orders. We have no idea how many people will get the foundation series between now and then. Or do we??
Me too!
Those new wheel covers are hideous. 😟
Drew...i see you're rockin' that young Louis CK look.
I love my model Y but I need 400-500 rated range to tow my 7500lb trailer 100’s of miles for music shows I do production for, some are not near chargers.
Ram’s 1500 Ramcharger should be the right vehicle for your applications then.
Dude, I live in Texas. It’s so effing hot. I’ll be more than happy to get the white interior.
My cybertruck is on its way for delivery. I am ok with white and the original tires. I am just hoping for autopilot by the end of the year.
Autopilot Lol. Never gonna happen.
@@brunorivademar5356you’d be surprised
Im never going to complain about more options whether I personally care about them or not
I was going to cancel my cybertruck because of that white interior. Grey interior is so much better. I'm back in baby.
Are they going to start delivering these new spec CTs after 2023 order book is sorted? Like in June 2062 (current delivery projection).
When do I get to put a deposit down on the QUADMOTOR PLAID ???
The truck is awesome and the most efficient Tesla they have made. I love mine, so awesome to drive.
In the beginning you made a great point about being on the other side or in the future of the story. I can't wait until these things are everywhere on the roads and when they get cheaper later. To me, the foundation series is just an extra $20,000 in dealership options.
I cannot quite understand what is the obsession with people with the amount of range a car gets. I am an Uber driver and I drive a Tesla model y performance. I bought my Tesla on September 11, 2023 that’s 283 days ago and I have put 50,000 miles on it. The average Tesla consumer drives less than 10,000 miles a year. So the range do trucks and cars are perfectly fine. For some reason, people believe that they go on a road trip every single day. Completely upset.
So just so you know, these are the wheels and tires that will ship with the RWD cheap version next year. I still can't believe so much is up in the air about this vehicle still. Can you imagine this truck in 5 years? That's the one I want to own!
I'm very happy, these are the wheels and tires I want.
Are the the tires actually that much smaller? They’re 35 in tall, what are the all terrains? Also the all terrains fit on a 20 in wheel, what are these? Seems like they just use a less aggressive tread pattern and maybe different compound as well as less moldings on the sidewall. And the aero cap only covers the wheel and not the tire.
The tires appear to be the same size. I believe that with those big hubcaps you are more committed to one single tire (you can always change later). I’m fine with all season tires. I don’t plan to run Baja, Moab, or the Rubicon in mine.
@@DanielLee89501 yeah, agreed, just wondering where the energy savings are coming from with the all seasons vs the off road ones
You guys are on another planet…😂
what i find amusing about the cyber truck is that my 2001 dodge diesel get 330 -340 miles a tank and that is while towing around 5K every single day. Ok correction 5 days a week as it just sits on weekends. I am not a hater either as I am on the wait list.................... afterall when I buy a truck I don't buy it looking at fuel milage but what can it tow what can it haul.
now who all did I just piss off I'll wait
How about white seats? Is that coming?
Thank goodness we have the federal tax credit. At least it ensures that eventually there will be a version that qualifies.
Accurate
Tires are the same size bud. Wheels are different size.
Definitely getting the smaller tires
They will do it like aptera and just put longer 4695 cells into the same pack.
Tesla just offered me the foundation series cybertruck. I'm gonna wait for the 79k awd that qualifies for the tax credit
The more interesting thing here is that Tesla has yet to work through all 2 million pre orders to identify foundation series buyers.
@danharold3087 I made my CT reservation about two weeks after the reveal event I think by some counters I was somewhere in the hundred thousands or so, if that's any indication of how far down the list they've gotten. It wouldn't surprise me if tesla ultimately sells like 50k of these foundation series at very very high margin...
There's a ra ge test our there. Testing 3 ride heights, with and without Tonno cover oven and, and, and with and without hub caps. Range was unaffected with or without the hub caps!!@!
7:07 When do you think that Tesla will start offering Cybertrucks with larger battery packs?
@1:35 Each to their own ....for ages l've felt the 'plain vanilla' interior looks a bit cheap!
I wouldn't mind more dark/gray Alcantara with stitching in contrast! More expensive to stitch such a long dash in a perfect line! imo
I was really hoping for structural changes to the interior like fuck color options
the original hub caps seem to have changed in design judging by the configurator picture
First off a 4680 is 10 mm taller than a 2170. Not even close to twice the height. The space in the pack is left there for impact with either road debris or off road obstacles. There is not enough room to double stack a 4680 cell. Could they fit in a 46100 or a 46120. Probably, but not a second 4680 with that design. They would need a deeper battery box.
You can have it in any color you want as long as it's stainless , was used by someone 100 years ago
No wraps back 100 years ago. KInd of interesting that 100 years later paint dry time is still a bottleneck on the assembly line.
46”80” is twice the height of a 21”70”???
The 2170 is 87.5% the height of the 4680.
Ain't no damn cybertrucks.
Cybertruck will be used as much off-road as the AMG G63
The not ugly wheels show a new less attractive hub cap
How refreshing :-)
I’ll take whatever tires and wheels that come with the truck. I would prefer to get the tax credit. I will be changing the wheels and tires right away anyway.
To hell with Range.. Who cares.. Give me the cyber bby 😂
It still looks like a bed pan
Tesla's claims of increased power for the 4680 batteries seems to have gone up in smoke, at least for now. I'm holding back on ordering until they bring out the RWD or lower the price of the AWD. Even though I wanted to use the truck itself as a rental business, I'm going to save up and gather investors for a food franchise instead. I know the food industry and once it's off the ground I can buy both a Cybertruck and Aptera as delivery vehicles. And afford another CT for personal use. Inshallah.
Anybody see that guy who got his finger crushed by the frunk lid?
white in truck is horrible unless it's going to be a pavement princess and never see any truck use at all.
They just changed the hubcaps and wheels, well new one looks boring! but also I like the old one more
Both are options. They didn’t get rid of the og ones
Just like Tesla did before fir it's other cars I will wait to buy the Cybertruck when the price is lower after a few years
Chevrolet just came out with a truck that gets 440 miles for 90,000 a lot better deal than Tesla trucks peace out
Not for sale anywhere
Doesnt matter to me, because my pre-order that I did in the official tesla mexican website a few years back will come to fruition in what... ? 3 years maybe ? till they actually start selling it in Mexico. :(((((((
4680 is twice the height of 2170?
80 is not 2x 70, my friend.
An 80mm cell is twice as high as a 70mm cell? WUT? Height and width are not the same thing...
I just bought a CT for my son’s first car. He and his friends really enjoy driving it to school. He is the first in his high school to get one.
How about they just fix the thing instead of trying to make it more appealing by changing the interior
Fix it!
Yeaaaa 2 million pre orders the for sure need to up the appeal in order to be able to sell them. Smh
@@zandercerlong9693 lol yeah with everyone pulling out and people can't sell them second hand so yeah real popular
@@entropyachieved750 “every one pulling out” for as many people who have canceled orders there are new orders being placed as people see the truck in person. They wont even get through all the pre orders for years to come. Anyone who doubts this is an ignorant fool and should be educating themselves before speaking
@@zandercerlong9693 how do you figure that? With the delays and issues and no Tesla service people who order today won't see it for 10 years. Who's that stupid, oh wait you...
Man those new wheels look awful though. The original design looked SO MUCH better.
first
Just release the 80k model already. This will solve flippin issue. Thatwhite is ugly.
An eighty thousand dollar pile of junk.
IMO, Tesla is in polishing mode of this Stainless Steel 💩. Look at the new shiny and pay no attention to all the staining problems, amongst other issues.
4680 is not 2 tims as high compared to 2170 :))))
I really don’t like the grey interior, and I agree that you see that in every truck.
No CbyerTurd for me. Looks lame
It still blows me away that anyone would buy that thing! Hybrid = good, EV =bad. It's really that simple
😂
What ever make you sleep at night 😂
Ok genius…..you’re right I want to have to plug it in AND do oil changes
U are still in in 19 century
Surely, $7,500 should be enough to buy the wheels/tires many really want after delivery; you'll have two sets for less than $79,990.
BTW, the 4680 is just 10 mm taller than the 2170, no where near twice the height. That would be a 46140.