How is the master clipping when he is limiting true peak? And why doesn't it matter when he is concerned with not clipping the streaming platforms? Genuinely curious about this. When I import wave files from cds into my daw they also clip and it confuses the hell out of me why this apparently isn't an issue, and how to even do this when limiting true peak
Streaming platforms will ask for a certain dB and LUFS level, the dB level is slightly flexible as normalisation and compression will occur, though having the signal incorrectly spec’d will result in a hard to predict tonal change. Really it depends on the algorithm the platform uses to compress/normalise, some will be okay with too high dB level but struggle to cleanly represent incorrect LUFS matching or the other way around. And as for him carelessly clipping his master, really clipping is fine if it doesn’t make it sound bad (though I’ll admit digital hard clipping can be gross af) yknow is it REALLY clipping if you can’t hear it? You can also check how a streaming platform will interpret your masters on the Loudness Penalty website. Also keep in mind that though the video is about “bus processing”, it’s not, it’s a mastering video, probably wouldn’t want to send THIS kinda bus processing to my mastering engineer haha, might get a bit upset with me
Everything sounds great. This is just my own personal taste... the tone of the snare drum. And it is so pervasive in mixes these days. It seems to be a thing of these years. In, say, the 1990s, the "trend", shall we say, was snare drums tuned tight and cutting... With a prominent peak at around 3kHz or so. It used to be all about the attack. :D
Lovely stuff! Really enjoyed seeing Daniel's workflow! Surprisingly though, my experience with trying to master less loud for the streaming providers, has always yielded results that are inconsistent and less competitive. I've personally had more success just getting things as loud as needed, right out of the gate; rather than let a steaming algorithm normalize things. It also works out well, since you never know if you'll have an artist who wants to release CD's for merch runs. :D
good to know it is not really relevant these days to achieve super loud mixes since the platforms anyway equal them to the same level. Interesting, thanks
Must be doing something right - mix sounds great and this band is (arguably) the prominent face of new metalcore. I certainly don’t do some of what he does, though.
@@landrysaathoff2418 It's great work. I just wished it wasn't slammed so badly. I think the album version might be hardly less squashed than this mix he did for NTM though
@deceiver444 that's a good word for it. Fatiguing. Modern metal almost sounds like there's a slight "haze", or "fog" present. It generally sounds good, and loud,...but there's always something off about it to me.
@@fountane this song was a charted single for a band who's now considered for a Grammy. Dude is just trolling, and if he's not trolling he's gatekeeping/hating
“So you’ll notice my bus is clipping. Sue me…I don’t care.” LMAO
URM really liked this session. Great mix thou
Jesus christ he's smashing that compressor soooo hard like -7db first time i see somebody doing that on the master bus
Still the needle was barely moving
Same, I'm literally in awe as to how he's got that to sit so well 🤯
He’s using a really low ratio tho so the compression isn’t as strong as the needle suggests.
I was surprised. When I do more than 2db, I find that the sound always gets congested
That preset is at a 1:1 Ratio. Its not compressing as hard as we think
thank you very much for sharing your tips
How is the master clipping when he is limiting true peak? And why doesn't it matter when he is concerned with not clipping the streaming platforms? Genuinely curious about this. When I import wave files from cds into my daw they also clip and it confuses the hell out of me why this apparently isn't an issue, and how to even do this when limiting true peak
imho LUFS matters more
@@ayeapprove Lufs is for loudness (duh) so it has nothing to do with clipping, I guess.
@@benjaminmichaut9996 true but you can clip at various loudness levels
@@benjaminmichaut9996 (duh)
Streaming platforms will ask for a certain dB and LUFS level, the dB level is slightly flexible as normalisation and compression will occur, though having the signal incorrectly spec’d will result in a hard to predict tonal change. Really it depends on the algorithm the platform uses to compress/normalise, some will be okay with too high dB level but struggle to cleanly represent incorrect LUFS matching or the other way around. And as for him carelessly clipping his master, really clipping is fine if it doesn’t make it sound bad (though I’ll admit digital hard clipping can be gross af) yknow is it REALLY clipping if you can’t hear it? You can also check how a streaming platform will interpret your masters on the Loudness Penalty website. Also keep in mind that though the video is about “bus processing”, it’s not, it’s a mastering video, probably wouldn’t want to send THIS kinda bus processing to my mastering engineer haha, might get a bit upset with me
Daniel fuckin rules
Everything sounds great. This is just my own personal taste... the tone of the snare drum. And it is so pervasive in mixes these days. It seems to be a thing of these years. In, say, the 1990s, the "trend", shall we say, was snare drums tuned tight and cutting... With a prominent peak at around 3kHz or so. It used to be all about the attack. :D
yea it is personal taste, for me this snare match perfectly with these lower tuned guitars
With slow music these gunshot snares are tasty. With faster music, drier and higher snares work well
Lovely stuff! Really enjoyed seeing Daniel's workflow! Surprisingly though, my experience with trying to master less loud for the streaming providers, has always yielded results that are inconsistent and less competitive. I've personally had more success just getting things as loud as needed, right out of the gate; rather than let a steaming algorithm normalize things. It also works out well, since you never know if you'll have an artist who wants to release CD's for merch runs. :D
This was super awesome, thanks guys! 😎🔥👊🏻
Would all of the processing on the mixbus be left on when sending the track to be properly mastered?
As a general rule, it should be down by -6DB before sending it off to master. But who cares it sounds great.
Love these, but where's the one for the bass guitar?
I mean, this is just one clip from a super long session. All instruments and tracks are covered.
Amazing
I just delivered a metal mix at -12.7 or so. Client LOVED it. "No one likes that" just ain't even close to the truth.
I may have missed it, but I haven't heard Dan mention what the compressor on his mix bus is called. What's the name?
Slate VBC FG-Red I believe
That snare could be used as a godamn defibrillator 💥
Like a Howitzer going off in a cave
Hello. Is this tutorial still possible to watch in full?
Yes. You can sign up to NTM and purchase that month to watch as much as you want.
The interview was 7 hrs video
What headphones is he using?
I hope he turned all of that master buss processing off before turning it into the mastering engineer 🙏🏼
intro song?
good to know it is not really relevant these days to achieve super loud mixes since the platforms anyway equal them to the same level. Interesting, thanks
So you don’t have a mastering process?? You just use your actual mixdown??
This is such a violent display of overcompressed clipping mess.
Great song nonetheless.
Must be doing something right - mix sounds great and this band is (arguably) the prominent face of new metalcore. I certainly don’t do some of what he does, though.
@@landrysaathoff2418 It's great work. I just wished it wasn't slammed so badly. I think the album version might be hardly less squashed than this mix he did for NTM though
Sounds way over processed to my ears
Fatiguing as hell
That's the sound they're going for.
@deceiver444 that's a good word for it. Fatiguing. Modern metal almost sounds like there's a slight "haze", or "fog" present. It generally sounds good, and loud,...but there's always something off about it to me.
Unlistenable.
Okay don't, no one is forcing ya.
Everything is possible if you believe.
What makes it unlistenable to you? Actually wondering so maybe I don't do it.
@@fountane this song was a charted single for a band who's now considered for a Grammy. Dude is just trolling, and if he's not trolling he's gatekeeping/hating
@@GTORT yeah I love this song and mix