5 Metal Guitar Mixing MISTAKES That RUIN Your Mix

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    Here are 5 of the biggest guitar tone killing mistakes when you're mixing metal. I made all of these mistakes for years in varying ways.
    I tried to make the video educational and entertaining while not triggering my PTSD of remembering those lonely nights... trying to mix my metal guitars, haha.
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    00:00 - Mistake #1
    01:17 - Mistake #2
    04:23 - Mistake #3
    05:58 - Mistake #4
    07:16 - Mistake #5
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  • @brutalandy
    @brutalandy Місяць тому +38

    Guitar Tone Masterery is Sick!!! My wife almost left me because my guitar tone was so bad!!! After Scotts Course, I learned how to make a good guitar tone. Scott saved our marriage... and my guitar tone!!!

  • @CoreyHunter
    @CoreyHunter Місяць тому

    Thanks Scott. Looking forward to implementing the tips. Cheers 🤘🏻

  • @DarkerThan00
    @DarkerThan00 9 днів тому

    Badonkadonk,,haha love that, great video and tips my friend 🤘🤘

  • @louderthangod
    @louderthangod Місяць тому +2

    I’m all about getting it right at the source and tracking with that. Re-amping takes away the vitality in the guitar. When I’m playing guitar, I’m making hundreds of minor changes in how hard I pick, the angle I’m hitting the strings, where I’m hitting the string a million variations on muting with my right and left hands. You lose all of that by reamping because you’re not hearing the final sound. A few changes on the amp will change how I play. I also rarely do much of anything with eq on guitar. Adding a little saturation in mixing whether it’s how hard you hit the preamp or some super subtle compression but choosing which compressor matters a lot. Saturation tends to take care of whistling notes and weird mix anomalies much of the time. I have an overstayer MAS hardware unit I like to use on the guitar bus or a plugin of a Culture Vulture does wonders and also helps even the level and helps with simple tonal shifts like making it generally brighter, darker or more textured or smooth.

  • @Slugcoil
    @Slugcoil Місяць тому +1

    Hey Scott! Another great video. Good advice to get it at the source not "fix it in the mix". When I figured that out my productions got a lot better. Metal Guitar Tone Workshop is a great value. I picked it up when your site first launched and I've watched it twice. Love your channel. I hope things are going good with your move to Poland and immigration stuff. Thanks for the content!

  • @joerojas5448
    @joerojas5448 Місяць тому

    You nailed it again, Scott! I've learned a lot watching your video on guitar tone. And Yes, Less EQ Is More.

  • @AlexeySolovievMusic
    @AlexeySolovievMusic Місяць тому +2

    Really wonderful tips Scott! Thank you so much! Learning much from you all the time!

  • @Tonepusher
    @Tonepusher Місяць тому

    VERY useful video, and these tips also works for synths stuff. 🤘

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja Місяць тому

    Hope all is going well with you and the fam.
    Great info Sir start with great signal and go from there. Don’t overdo it, if it needs that much fixing get a better starting point.

    • @PooNinja
      @PooNinja Місяць тому

      You can only add so many potatoes to absorb the oversalted stock to something palatable.
      I just ordered a twonotes opus to boost my broths! So excited to taste all the cabs!

  • @onion69420
    @onion69420 Місяць тому

    This is true,i used to do all sorts of unnecessary cuts and boosts in solo, but when i compare my older tones to new ones, there is just so much improvement

  • @suzinabxvcb
    @suzinabxvcb Місяць тому

    Amazing video your approach. Love it new sub

  • @leearmitage
    @leearmitage Місяць тому

    Guitar tone mastery V2 is well worth it, and yes over time your ear will develop and you will make better decisions in both pre production and in the final mix

  • @SonicDriveStudio
    @SonicDriveStudio Місяць тому +1

    Really good video! To the point!

  • @woodward_alan
    @woodward_alan Місяць тому

    I just spent a ton of my day doing these bad habits. Thanks for sharing your insights

  • @sooeyside
    @sooeyside Місяць тому +1

    0:51 cab IRs are typically minimum phase, same as EQs. There's no real technical difference in how they distort the phase. It's more accurate to say that manipulating phase causes what we interpret as boosts or cuts in the frequency domain.
    Long way to say: it's ok to use EQ in moderation, which is the video's message anyway, I think.

  • @LevRage
    @LevRage 29 днів тому

    I'm a beginner however I only use "solo" to correct guitar playing errors. That's what I thought it was for.

  • @midwestexiled842
    @midwestexiled842 Місяць тому

    BOOM, BAM, MAGIC! Great vid!

  • @heavenly2k
    @heavenly2k Місяць тому

    These are all very valid tips, I've personally found these to be true through my own experimentation

  • @yusa6046
    @yusa6046 Місяць тому

    good to see you back, Scott

  • @constantinranis
    @constantinranis Місяць тому

    Scott whats your opinion on using saturation on guitar bus? Never seen you do it on your videos, i found out that for me personally, i like to blend a lil bit of it to make the tone less harsh and brighter instead of doing it with eq

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +1

      That could be one way to do it, I personally never tried it, but the logic is sound! The only thing I'd make sure of is that you aren't rounding off the tone too much. Sometimes I'll reach for soothe2 if I want to really attack a spikey/harsh guitar tone!

    • @constantinranis
      @constantinranis Місяць тому

      @@ChernobylAudio666 thanks for the answer man, yeah I don't see it often , I experimented with it and found out that true iron and the xsaturator from ssl can add some subtle sweetness to the tone . Thanks again man, stay heavy 🤘

  • @_hide_-lb1gk
    @_hide_-lb1gk Місяць тому

    Tip: if you have a sim where you can move the cab microphone around start the "eq" there by moving it around. The amp and ir will take you 80-90% there. Took me way too long to just do it instead of automatically going for the eq.

  • @Ryan_Messenger
    @Ryan_Messenger Місяць тому

    I'll remember this video next time I'm overcomplicating my mixes. One thing I would like to add is to take breaks. I've found myself over EQing to compensate for ear fatigue, only to go back later and hear I created more problems. Less is more. As soon as you find yourself wanting to turn up the volume on the audio interface (louder than you normally mix at) you'll know it's time for a break.

  • @LoaiHaleem
    @LoaiHaleem Місяць тому

    How mix rock/metal guitar produced by Electric Guitar VST (Virtual Instrument) with amp sims. I tried many times and always sound weird. and led me to do some of these mistakes. !!

  • @michellszarko61
    @michellszarko61 Місяць тому

    Weirdly I half agree and disagree, my guitar eq has alot of bands and did my own IR's but everyone I show the final mix of my song(who are rock and metal heads) always love my tone... I like a guitar tone that's heavy and balanced while ringing frequencies are put in check... I respect what your saying and like i said i do agree to a point but at the end of the Day who cares right. as long as it sounds good there no right or wrong way about going about it... music is art and there is no law saying you have to do it this way, if it's good, it's good. Simple as that. keep rockin' 🤘

  • @resington
    @resington Місяць тому

    A couple of notches reducing a couple a db is perfectly fine. Very rarely have I obliterated a resonance.

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 Місяць тому

    i wonder if it's just me but the eq move example of the first mistake looks like a frequency plot of the G12T-75, one of the most divisive guitar speakers, to put it lightly.

    • @alrecks619
      @alrecks619 Місяць тому

      and speaking of guitar notches, i found that i only have to cut for no more than 3dB.

  • @xenonvinc
    @xenonvinc Місяць тому

    Cheers mate❤

  • @Frank_Kreepy
    @Frank_Kreepy Місяць тому

    re andy sneap c4 : I've seen you use JW busglue... is that what jw-guitar does with its chug slayer option?🤔

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +1

      I think the "Chug Slayer" option is their own variation of the C4 trick, yep!

  • @mesabog2
    @mesabog2 Місяць тому

    Are you going to update your guitar tone mastery course? Some of your info here contradicts the material there.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Yep... and to be far, GTM is already a few years old... things change, but already on the chopping block! It'll happen this year for sure.

  • @everydayburns-um9eh
    @everydayburns-um9eh Місяць тому

    love from texas! thank you for the info

  • @adamdavis307
    @adamdavis307 Місяць тому

    thank you for this. i have literally been pulling my hair out with doing all of this in the last MONTH!

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Sometimes I still do it myself... nobody is immune! :D

  • @ShredworthyDave
    @ShredworthyDave Місяць тому

    Mistake #2 is the killer of everything. I've seen too many guys do this.

  • @jakesmith7919
    @jakesmith7919 Місяць тому

    Will definitely keep the badonkadonk under control! Thank you for the video Scott! Much appreciated!

  • @steveelie6929
    @steveelie6929 Місяць тому

    Quick question on the EQ. At the beginning you said that putting the LPF and HPF on the guitar is killing your tone. And i was like well shit i gotta stop doin that probably. But then when you bring up the EQ you had set up for the guitar in your mix, it has the HPF and LPF on it. What gives man!?!?!

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      The first point is about doing too much overall - not about the HPF or LPF specifically 👍

  • @AvyScottandFlower
    @AvyScottandFlower Місяць тому

    Idk... yes, 99 out of each 100 times, the notches & notches & notches on the higher freqs end up DESTROYING the distorted guitar tone*
    But.. that 100th time.. the sound comes out AWESOME
    Ok, maybe 1 out of each 5000 times 😅 but still
    *(ends up flab.. though I use a high shelf with a different, musical EQ plugin to brighten things back up)

  • @Fekesson
    @Fekesson Місяць тому

    But first you gotta taste the salt to know what you're adding to the soup. BUT be aware that the tasting of the salt has altered your tastebuds... BUT now you know for the next attempt.

  • @RickMazz
    @RickMazz Місяць тому +1

    You should always get it right (or damn close) at the source. If you wan to start doing this, GET GUITAR TONE MASTERY!!

  • @davidmontosa4472
    @davidmontosa4472 Місяць тому

    Thank you!!

  • @RedCloudServices
    @RedCloudServices Місяць тому

    also mix at lower volume

  • @Wizzerman95
    @Wizzerman95 Місяць тому

    “I think most people agree a little bit of badonkadonk is nice” you know it brother

  • @DavidAllenMD
    @DavidAllenMD Місяць тому

    i almost never have to use eq lol if i do its rare

  • @den-dudin-rock
    @den-dudin-rock Місяць тому

    But doesn't an ir introduce the same phase shift as an eq? Cause it' basically an eq curve. I assume, one way or another phase will be f*cked

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      When you are using multiple microphones in the real world, you definitely want to take the time to get things in phase. However, recording from the microphone isn't an issue. It's the post processing that's an issue. So any EQ point you'd make in the post-processing world microshifts the phase of the signal at that point (unless you're using linear phase EQ), so when you start going to town with lots of EQ on a guitar source, you're moving the phase around so much that it causes the signal to become washy.

  • @IconOfSin
    @IconOfSin Місяць тому

    What's that track, it's brutal!!

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +1

      Just a demo track I wrote for the ML Sound Lab video. I'm looking at creating a Spotify playlist for the future!

    • @IconOfSin
      @IconOfSin Місяць тому

      @@ChernobylAudio666 respect brother that is some sick music, love the mix 🤘

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      @@IconOfSin Here you go, big guy! open.spotify.com/track/39AbzuwFpiITW3hXAlh3s4?si=9b2020e262e94e64

  • @ianlahaye9476
    @ianlahaye9476 Місяць тому

    Useful info right from the gate! I unsubbed and subbed again! Also, more hot sauce in the gut makes for better guitar tone. I can confirm.

  • @tobins6800
    @tobins6800 Місяць тому

    So what I am understanding is, listen, listen to the totality, then, shut up and listen again. Make the minimum adjustements as possible, take a break, ear fatigue. listen some more...

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Fixing it at the source will always lead to a better result than trying to fix it in the mix!

  • @bebopsamurai_music
    @bebopsamurai_music Місяць тому +1

    Cough cough…. JUST BUY GUITAR TONE MASTERY ….. cough cough
    Get your sources right at the get go and work less in the mix and be less annoyed about everything

  • @alfredopearson7388
    @alfredopearson7388 26 днів тому

    😥 *Promo sm*

  • @elguitarTom
    @elguitarTom Місяць тому

    the better solution is not to mix at all

  • @oleskiyashko2901
    @oleskiyashko2901 Місяць тому

    Great advise! Come back to Kyiv 🥹