Just a 16 point EQ into a pultec and "multiband compresison harmonic frequency exciter", no biggie. No complaints. Just kind of funny that what we once thought was an "art" of mixing became a "fuck with it til it sounds good" mixing, which is reassuring for most of us here.
It was even more of a "fuck with it until it sounds good" thing back in the day. The only difference is there were no outlets to speak about nerdy shit on.
As an electronic producer trying to blend more metal elements, I looooove watching this dude always be like, fuck the rules, if I like it, I keep it, if it works for me, it works . Always keeps me grounded when I’m flooded with “rules” new tutorials try and tell you. “This plug in just does something I like”…… that’s all you fuckin need to hear 😂 just like In his guitar video “Im clipping my master, sue me” 😂😂😂😂 keep doing you man
Definitely appreciate some of the "against traditional wisdom" takes in this one. It's always about what sounds good in the end. Who cares how you got there?
My OCD wouldn't let me do this.. it would haunt me, lol, just knowing that each one peaks at a different frequency and has problems at different pitches.
You can route/send the different mics to separate tracks in your DAW, allowing for the same level of control :) Then you can comp, eq, pan etc however you want, each individual drum.
Nice song atnosphere, nice clicky drum machine sound. 👍 Not so easy with REAL drums, though (resonances, mic leakage, cymbal leakage, etc). Back in the day we used to record all the toms, no matter if 2 or 5 or more, already pre-panned on just 2 tracks of the analog multitrack tape, to save space, and we'd reverb & eq them just as a stereo group in the mix. But before we'd work pretty hard on mic placement, eq, gating, compression, and even level to tape to play with the transients. Different times, I guess. Now it's click click click, all pointy, all triggers or samples, all mouse clicks. 😉
@@Icythot-m6i Prune juice taste great, tnx, but what you seem to need can't be provided by any drink, kiddo. Learn to learn from those who know, learn respect, and learn that just as silence is important in music, so is knowing when to shut up in life. Eh.
Just a 16 point EQ into a pultec and "multiband compresison harmonic frequency exciter", no biggie.
No complaints. Just kind of funny that what we once thought was an "art" of mixing became a "fuck with it til it sounds good" mixing, which is reassuring for most of us here.
It was even more of a "fuck with it until it sounds good" thing back in the day. The only difference is there were no outlets to speak about nerdy shit on.
As an electronic producer trying to blend more metal elements, I looooove watching this dude always be like, fuck the rules, if I like it, I keep it, if it works for me, it works . Always keeps me grounded when I’m flooded with “rules” new tutorials try and tell you.
“This plug in just does something I like”…… that’s all you fuckin need to hear 😂 just like In his guitar video
“Im clipping my master, sue me” 😂😂😂😂 keep doing you man
Oh good, now I feel better about being wayyyy too lazy to process my toms separately.
😂
Same here 😅
Same 🤣
Im so relieved by this 😂
I used the same tactic on my latest mix, except i process the lowest floortom separetely. Great Idea!
So not really the same thing then..
Definitely appreciate some of the "against traditional wisdom" takes in this one. It's always about what sounds good in the end. Who cares how you got there?
Great work.. learned a few things..
anyone know if he uses the SD3 NY library for a particular reason? or just cause he has it... wondering which library would be best
wait, spiritbox recorded using SDX? not real drums?
Always
Very known, the drummer didn't play and they've been super upfront about that. Songwriter writes them.
@@noname-ng6sj damn i didn't know that
if they can produce a very convincing drum MIDI with today's drum sample libraries, why not?
What does he mean on 2:58 saying "I'm adding double volume couse another rule, +6db double percieved loudness" ?
Literally just answered your own question bro. +6Db is double to loudness
Did this on a recent mix and thought it would be considered blasphemy, glad to know I’m not alone
Is all spiritbox drums programmed?
yes, but the drummer played this song with a electronic drum kit
9:05 that Pro-Q³ is clipped tho :(
Sounds great in context though! That's the end goal.
Guess what nobody is gonna die
Some urm videos really need a desser
i mean, you can EQ the toms separately but process them as a sum.
I thought Zev didn't play drums on this- thought it was all programmed?
My OCD wouldn't let me do this.. it would haunt me, lol, just knowing that each one peaks at a different frequency and has problems at different pitches.
He did say he mixes in the box, though, if needed, so technically, he's not really processing them all together
There’s a lot of “squeaky ticky tappy“ frequencies on those toms he’s leaving in. I can’t unhear it 😢
you gotta have some cut in your drums
@@PaulOuzounov Theres cut, then theres annoying
Ah, you're a fart sounding Tom guy, I see
Too bad can't EQ within modern and massive. Unless I missed something.
Yeah you can only do a LPF or HPF in MM unfortunately
You can route/send the different mics to separate tracks in your DAW, allowing for the same level of control :) Then you can comp, eq, pan etc however you want, each individual drum.
Yeah just route it out in your daw and do it
@@jonasos3 Yeah I knew that.
You can do smaller EQ moves on individual tom tracks and then send all of your toms to a bus to do all of the major processing there
Nice song atnosphere, nice clicky drum machine sound.
👍
Not so easy with REAL drums, though (resonances, mic leakage, cymbal leakage, etc).
Back in the day we used to record all the toms, no matter if 2 or 5 or more, already pre-panned on just 2 tracks of the analog multitrack tape, to save space, and we'd reverb & eq them just as a stereo group in the mix. But before we'd work pretty hard on mic placement, eq, gating, compression, and even level to tape to play with the transients.
Different times, I guess.
Now it's click click click, all pointy, all triggers or samples, all mouse clicks.
😉
Old men yells at cloud vibe
@@AngeloMerte Yup, we like clouds.
Kinda like young wiseass thinks he can & must be funny.
*Mandatory spongebob quote* "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN!?!?!?!?"
@@PrantoKoX chill grandpa, drink ya prune juice
@@Icythot-m6i Prune juice taste great, tnx, but what you seem to need can't be provided by any drink, kiddo. Learn to learn from those who know, learn respect, and learn that just as silence is important in music, so is knowing when to shut up in life.
Eh.
maybe for that soft music those toms wont work for brutal deathmetal