Love to hear it! Seems like these V4's are pretty solid overall. Lucky for us we got ours just in time before Ducati made the Panigale a monstrosity for 2025.
Doing the lord’s work and helping to break the stigma. I’ve had an 848 EVO for 13 years and Streetfighter 848 for almost 8. The only repair ever needed was a VR on the EVO. Everything else has been standard fare.
Awesome! So glad to hear your EVO and your SF have been basically problem free for 13 years. These bikes require more attention for sure and there is a higher bar of entry. However, they are not completely out of reach to the normal person. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for explaining this to people. Ive owned 9 bikes from various brands including Ducati and I was a service advisor at a motorcycle shop for a while. It amazed me how many misconceptions there are about Ducati ownership. Many issues that id see with motorcycles were caused by the owners use and lack of maintenance.
Exactly. Ducati's certainly aren't problem free, but the current ones are significantly better than ones from even 10 years ago. Keeping up with maintenance and not doing dumb stuff with your bike helps a ton. Your point of view is valuable seeing as you were a service advisor.
Bullet point number 6: they aren’t ridden. At least not by the guys under 30. You come across a Ducati with more than 15K miles on it and the rider will likely be in his early 40s to mid 50s. Under 30 and they’re being used to create content until the new model comes out. Then they’ll make a video explaining why they’re contemplating on getting the new model and ask for viewer thoughts and comments. Not much longer after that comes the new bike delivery video, the future mods videos, the ‘taking my bike to a super car meet’ video then the ‘what I like/what I dislike’ video(s) - rinse and repeat 😂
I had a 749 for over 14 years and 55K miles. That was back when the service intevals were 6500 miles and belt changes at 12K miles. I had a few issues over the life of the bike the worst was when the ECU failed at about 30K miles. Other than that everything else was normal wear and tear items. I also learned to do my own valve checks and adustments, belt changes and adjustments. I sold it a few years ago and still regret it, wish it was still in my garage. I actualy enjoyed taking a couple of days on a weekend to do the service.
I just had my initial service on my 2023 Ducati Super Sport 950S. It’s not bad, 420 dollars out of the door. I love it, the smooth ride, the look. I installed slip on SC project exhaust (800 bucks) myself. Love the sound. I used to own 2022 Kawasaki ZX6R. Yes, parts are cheaper, but my Ducati is definitely a turn head 😁😁 everywhere I went
That’s what it’s all about, enjoying your time on two wheels. Nothing wrong with Kawasaki but Ducati is a different experience for sure. Take care and ride safe.
Same here. Except my dealer charged $520 for the break in service which I felt was a little excessive. But the bike has been great for the first 800 miles and 6 months, and I’m looking forward to not having to do this again for a full year. Just installed a Competition Werkes exhaust and now this bike is absolutely awesome. I had to sell my 911GT3 after I got the Ducati, but the bike provides even more thrills at a fraction of the price.
I have a 2023 Diavel V4 with over 30,000 miles and I've never had a serious problem. Just normal maintenance items. I also have two 2024 Panigale V2s for my twin boys and they each put over 7,000 miles on the Panigales this summer with no problems. In my experience Ducatis are highly reliable and I use them as my daily driver, grocery getter, drag bike, and canyon rippers.
Awesome man. Thank you for sharing. You’ve racked up some miles on that V4, holy cow. Appreciate you chiming in, this will be helpful to somebody out there im certain.
Agreed. I have a 2022 Streetfighter V4sp that has been perfect. A few heat shield bolts have come loose but replaced and lock tight and never an issue again. On the other side I have a 1290 Superduke that definitely requires more maintenance than the Ducati.
Thank you for the wealth of knowledge you share with each video! Your attention to detail when doing anything to your bikes is second to none and hard to find in a shop. Ride safe
I bought my 2020 V4 in June of 2022 with 800 miles and now it's sitting at 9600 miles. I've done 1 fluid change and replaced the acid battery with a lithium ion battery and I've had zero issues.
My previous V2 panigale, blew up at 4k miles. Bushing on the timing chain cover wore out and boom she went. Dicsti replaced the engine and I put 30k miles on the V2 before trading it in for an S1k. As far as higher mileage bikes, I'm at 11k on my 24 bmws1000rr and I bought the bike new last January. Living in florida, there are a good number of high mileage bikes out here.
I have owned many motorcycles to include Japanese and european. You gave a very honest and reasonable overview of the current Ducati offerings. If you avoid the belt Ducati of past and the dry clutch models, you will be fine. These models are more expensive to maintain or require you to be able to do more of the work yourself. I have been very happy with my V2. FYI, my first service was $600 at the dealer in the ATL area.
Appreciate you sharing your experience. Definitely on the same page as you, they are certainly more expensive to own than the equivalent Japanese bike, but it's not outrageous. Definitely doable for most normal people. Enjoy that V2, they are excellent bikes.
The newer dry clutches are a little better but the interval is still pretty tight. A lot of it depends on the operator and if it’s vented properly. Generally I see most owners reporting about a 3000 mile interval with street use. Some of the newer dry clutches are very small in diameter and they tend to wear quicker than the larger diameter ones. @dlij285
I have four generations of twins: 851, 999, 1098R, 1299S. I have been stranded a total of one time 20 years ago when the (Japanese!) chain failed on my 851. Each have their quirks like regulator-rectifiers on the desmoquattro models or rusty pipes and screws on the more recent bikes. Maintenance is not terrible, but I do it myself investing in the tools needed to service them properly. Valve check is expensive if you take it to the dealer, for the cost of one service you could buy the tools and do it forever. Belts on older models are no big deal if you take your time and ensure the tension is correct, several methods are available. Where you get into trouble is letting them sit for weeks or months and then expecting to ride them hard without issue. But that is the case with any high-performance machine.
Great points all around. I agree, typically it’s worth it to do the maintenance yourself. Plus then you know it’s done correctly, I don’t trust dealers to care about your bike like you would. Totally agree about not letting them sit either. Quickest way to get leaks is to let a ICE sit for long periods of time. Take care, appreciate you sharing.
The only issues I’ve had with my 2022 SFV4 was the water pump recall the V4’s are known for and a couple horizontal valve cover leaks (thats pretty common on the V4 if you dive on the forums) over all its been a fantastic machine on the road and the track and I’ve had ZERO catastrophic issues. Im at 7500 miles currently. Even with the costs of ownership associated, theres a reason I’m on my 3rd ducati now. They make a fun bike!
Awesome! Thank you for sharing and glad your V4 has basically been problem free. I totally intended to add in the video that you will notice many people keep buying Ducatis over and over. There is a reason for that. I just forgot to put it in the video!
Great vid! 🎉Thanks so much for your honesty about Ducati. I have a dream of owning a Ducati Monster one day but finically I am just getting by. But that won’t stop me 👍 Saving and working hard to make my Ducati dream come true.
Honestly, I never thought I’d be able to buy one either. Just keep working hard and you’ll have one before you know it. It’s just a matter of perseverance and not losing sight of your goals. You can absolutely buy that Ducati monster if you keep doing what you are doing.
10:42 This Scene was an absolute meme 😂 *Opens Up every drawer of his huge workshop trolley with hundres of Tools in it* and mentions at every single drawer he opens, that its nothing crazy nothing special 😂
@maxepta hahaha I was speaking in terms of a real mechanics toolbox. One cordless snap on drill with charger is over $500. The tools I have one can accumulate pretty quickly by investing a couple hundred dollars a month. A lot of their toolboxes, just the box with no tools are over $20K.
My experience with my two Ducati’s are that you have to change the timing belts every 4 years and oil every 10000km but I’ve been doing it every 500km and it’s lasted without a hitch. My dad Ducati monster 659 2013 has 51000 km on it and he absolutely abuses it every day and he’d got it second hand at 40000 km and it was completely neglected like no old change with daily use for 3 years so from 25-40 thousand km nothing done. After revealing the bike we where given the report and it said that everything was perfect no wear on any bearings no major components needed to be replaced all that needed to be done. Ducatis will last forever if you take care of it and with my monster I’ve had not one issue and it’s worth it trust me
Just like with any exotic/high end car. The cost of ownership only goes up exponentially the longer you have the vehicle. For the most part it is fine for the ppl who buy these sort of things new. However the type of person who would try to buy one of these used more likely than not does not have the income level to support the vehicle once the costly repairs/intensive maintenance need to be performed.
It really just depends honestly. I have an exotic car now and the upkeep hasn’t been too bad. It’s all about doing your research, buying a good example of whatever car it is that you want, and being able to do at least some of the maintenance yourself.
The service intervals on Japanese bikes point you made is really good. The difference is that (normally) Japanese parts/labor are substantially less than Italian parts/labor.
As a general statement, yes. However, the gap in maintenance cost is not that bad. I think the largest price gap comes in the aftermarket part world. When every single aftermarket part is 2-3-4x the cost of the equivalent aftermarket part for a Japanese bike, that adds up quick! Thanks man, take care.
@@ridewithKYI actually own an MV Agusta and I can attest to this. The problem is two fold: 1. either the OEM costs an arm and a leg and there’s no aftermarket option whatsoever or 2. the aftermarket part costs as much if not more than the OEM. They kinda expect you to be shelling out top money. You get a lot of aftermarket stuff that’s not even properly branded but will do the job just fine on Japanese bikes. On MV you only get Lightech, Rizoma, Moto Corse and brands like that.
I don’t own a Ducati but comparing exhaust costs to a Kawasaki should be looked at like the difference between a mustangs exhaust vs a Ferrari. People also say they aren’t worth it either.🤷♂️
Yeah it’s a similar comparison for sure. You buy a Kawasaki, you are getting probably 95% of the performance. No denying that. However, sometimes you just want something else. Thanks man, good point.
Bought a brand new Panigale V4 24 now has 7500 miles had absolutely zero issues 2 times oil change at dealership and that's it pretty much. One advantage to the Pani is that stock v stock compared to other bikes its better at every aspect except the heat. So if money is an issue like with me just don't buy expensive exhausts and unnecessary mods ride the wheels do the maintenance and enjoy your bike.
Bought a brand new 2023 Panigale POS it had big reliability issues. The cam shafts are now case hardened in bushings not the the tool steel in needle bearings. My new bike spent 9 months in dealer 1st year. I had to buy the old Pre 2021 shafts and bearings to fix the issues. Its a crap shoot you get a bike that works vs one that grenades. If they installed the bushings correctly all good if not they fail quickly and the warranty group refused to upgrade and would only put the new crappy parts back. They even admit to the issue. I have owned 7 Ducati Superbikes and unfortunately was my last.
Sorry to hear about your extensive durability/reliability issues with your 23 Panigale. Appreciate you taking the time out to comment to share your experience.
Regarding DIY service & maintenance on recent gen Ducs, can you speak to the costs/tools associated with 1) obtaining an official factory service manual and 2) how the DIYer can clear service alerts, reminders and push updates? (aka "clear the dash" or update without voiding any warranty aspects). I've heard these aspects of Euro bike ownership can be a hassle; if not even possible. Thanks for your super informative video! 🙂
The official service manual is pretty easy to come by. I’ve seen service manual files on eBay for like $40. You basically pay them to send you a PDF of the service manual. They are absolutely worth it as they have all the torque specs in it. The service alert can either be cleared using Melcodiag (which is free) or you can buy an aftermarket diagnostic scanner. Any normal OBD scanner won’t clear that service code but there are a few aftermarket units out there that can, they are around $500. So not nothing, but it’s not too bad either considering the time and money you’d save from having to go to the dealer. My closest Ducati dealer is 30 minutes away so at least 1 hour of travel time plus however long I’m there waiting. Absolute hassle. As far as warranty goes… keep all your records of service if you do it yourself. Keep your receipts, maybe take pictures, things like that. Very few things void warranty, there are a few things/scenarios that can cause a warranty claim denial. Does that make sense? Hope that was helpful. Thank you!
@@ridewithKYDefinitely useful info. I have a few friends that claim they are unable to obtain official service manuals as customers. This is supposedly a Ducati policy as a "matter of owner safety" per correspondence from Ducati (directing them instead to their nearest authorized service center). That's lame imo but if eBay has all of the recent models covered, that's great! I'll direct them that way. The aftermarket diagnostic tool sounds like a great workaround as well. I suppose at that point you'd only have to go to the dealership for system updates; as I imagine Ducati doesn't make that available to owners. Great info. Thanks again!
Owned several Ducatis and Japanese. Panigale V4 I have had 4 (17,20,22 and 23)- not one issue on >10,000 miles total All parts and maintenance done through Ducati dealership. Not the cheapest to maintain. But not more expensive than a BMW or Triumph. Ridden hard - solid reliability. No experience with DESMO service… i dont own my bikes that long. Note: Parts are pricey - so DON’T CRASH!!! I crashed a 2017 Superleggera a year ago and the total in parts was north of 50k to repair… thats without labor. While regular Service is priced okay… repairs can be inflated by the cost of parts. I am sure unscheduled repairs can be more expensive than on a Japanese bike - do not track your bike unless you have solid finances.
Got 2013 panigale 1199 tricolor and thanks for your insight. Dude your garage is my dream when it comes to looks. I thought it was a local ducati clean ass shop 😂
This biggest issue for me and others is finding an actual dealer thats not stupid. Ive almost pulled the trigger a few times but the dealers act like its a ferrari here lol! Keep it
good stuff bro. I think you are a little off key with the dry-clutch thing. I own a 996 and the maintanace is that that bad. it's actually cheaper. if you turn your own wrenches, it so much simpler. the only problem with the 996 is not a great deal of Ducati shops has the right people to work on 'em. dry clutch is easy when change and/or adjusting - no oil needed.
Appreciate you sharing your experience with your 996. I agree with you regarding the simplicity of a dry clutch assembly. However, the interval is still much shorter than a wet clutch. Of course, the life span of a clutch is greatly influenced by the inputs of the operator (one could burn up a clutch in 5 miles if one wanted to), but as a general statement; a wet clutch is almost maintenance free. For the current V4's, checking clutch clearances is not even on the Ducati maintenance table. I think the most apples to apples we can get is comparing an SP2 to a V4S. Everything mechanically is the same other than dry clutch vs wet clutch. We see most owners clutch intervals on SP2's are around 2000-3500 miles with the basket itself needing to be replaced in and around that 5000 mile mark. Again, you'll see some variance here depending on the operator, if it's properly vented, riding conditions, etc. I think we can lean back on the fact that almost all motorcycles now are wet clutch, including the vast majority of Ducati's. Some of the reason for the wet clutch is undoubtedly to make them easier to ride, but a large part of that migration is because of the lack of required maintenance. If you look in the comments here, you'll see some owners mentioning the short intervals on their current gen dry clutch (SP2, V4R). Doesn't mean dry clutches are bad, but they definitely require more care and attention as opposed to a wet clutch on the same bike, regardless of the simplicity of a dry clutch assembly. Thank you again for sharing.
Ducatis are reliable but a tad expensive to maintain. Had a 2019 v4 with 26k miles. 3 water pumps but otherwise pretty good. I’ve now got a 2023 sp2…..dry clutch maintenance is ridiculous….$2-3k every 3k miles…..and my riding style is primarily canyon rides. Annual service is $600. In summary….reliable good, operating expense a bit high
Thanks for this video...ever since Audi bought Ducati reliability has just gotten better and better. It was an issue in the "old" days, but today, it's not an issue....but people still live in the past, so it gets talked about still. I have '23 V4S also....as well as an R1, Gixxer 1K, an RSV4, and a Triumph. The only brand I have not ever owned is a BMW....maybe someday. The initial cost of ownership is a little steep, but all Japanese Big bikes have gone up significantly as well since Covid started. Unless you buy a previous year left over, liter bikes are all pricey now. I had a question about what do you use to make all your bikes shines so much :)....and I was curious about your thoughts on the new '25 V4?
Man! You’ve got a little bit of everything. Jealous of your current stable. I use Adam’s grapheme ceramic coating and use p&s beadmaker in between coatings. Seems to work pretty well for me and best of all is a pretty simple application process. The 25 V4 in pictures and video look strange to me. I have no doubt the performance will be outstanding but as far as aesthetics go; it’s a step backward. Maybe if I see it in person my mind will change but judging solely on pictures/video, the current gen looks a lot better.
I bought my ducati and was suprised it does not come with any kind of tools with it. You cant even tighten the chains without going to the dealer not a big deal but how much would it cost to include tiny bag of special tools to a bikes price. I also had damage on my bike after first service (offical ducati dealer) they bought me new damaged parts but thease bikes dont get appreciated the way they should.
I get it, but you can buy a complete spanner set to adjust the chain for about $20. I think the only bike I've ever bought that had a tool set was a Husqvarna and those tools were barely useable anyhow.
My buddy bought an Aprilia was a nightmare for him, he had to ride a few hours just to get it serviced. I just bought what was easy enough to get service. But the bike was something I wanted.
My PanigaleV2 piston broke and pierced into the engine smashing everything inside at 18,000km. Thankfully I had the entire engine replaced with Warranty. I don’t know if that’s consider lucky, or unlucky lol. Having had this experience I will never buy a premium bike without warranty ever. New or Preown, I’d only buy with warranty. Great video btw! 👍🏽👊🏽
Sorry to hear about the catastrophic failure on your V2, but glad it was covered under warranty. Warranty is a nice safety net to have. Thank you for the support!
If anything requires a part for Ducati, the bike is down for three weeks! Suzuki, Yami, or any other Japanese bike, you will get your bike the next day! So, if you can live with that, then go for it! I personally cannot pay for a bike by making payments while it is sitting in a dealer for a thermostat!
Not necessarily. I’ve needed a Ducati part before and was able to get it same day or within a few days. Part availability has gotten a lot better following the Volkswagen Auto Group acquisition.
I love the termignoni exhaust. In a perfect world I wish they were a little louder (I have the DB killers out). Hopefully the packing will blow out a little and I'll get a slight increase in sound, the tone however is perfect. I've heard a few different exhausts for these bikes in person and it's easy to make these 1103 V4's sound bad. As long as you aren't expecting a loud exhaust, you will be happy with the Termignoni's. Only other issue I have with this exhaust is it's surprisingly heavy. It is lighter than the stock exhaust, but not by much. You'll save about 5 lbs or so. Take care, let me know how else I can help.
The moral of the story is. Older Ducatis especially the older Panigale and the 848 1098 and before are not the most reliable bikes of all time but can be if very well maintained. The new bikes however are just as good as any bike on the market. The 899 and up to the newest v4s are amazing bikes and very reliable. You are buying an Italian bike so it is going to be more expensive to maintain that’s like buying a foreign car and bitching about maintenance. Less bikes means more expensive parts. Buy a gsxr if you want 30 dollar parts off 1000 crashed bikes on eBay.
Would really like to buy a first gen street fighter but shied away due to maintenance cost horror stories. I’m perfectly comfortable doing my own valve jobs and belt replacements on my Hondas all day long. Do you think I could do the. Laces and belts on the Street fighter?
Generally cars are harder to work on than motorcycles. Even complicated motorcycles are relatively simple compared to complicated cars. I’d say if you can do your own timing belt and valve adjustments on your Hondas then you can do it on these Ducati twins.
I guess I’ll be the first one putting a shit load of miles on mine 😂 thing was meant to ride and ride I will ! Also good thing I know how to do my own services that 400 for an oil change is crazy to me 😨
Enjoy yours. Yeah it's an easy service honestly. Only thing you can't do is clear the maintenance light and perform updates. Most dealerships will do this as a separate service though so it's really not that big of a deal.
@ I haven’t bought it yet because I’m between a v2 and a v4 which is how I landed on your channel haha, which btw great videos ! I forgot to sub but I will ! I just need to choose which one I want I don’t know if I should save a bit more and get the v4 or the v2 so that’s where I stand right now. Thank you for the info btw !
If you really want to then you can. Don’t automatically condemn yourself to never being able to afford the things you want. It can absolutely be done. 👊🏽.
I appreciate the suggestion. However, I am not a fan of clear clutch covers. I know they are very popular but it's just not really my thing. Take care, thank you!
Seems the V4s aren’t causing any issues. I’d the Sfv4 grey Nero. Before that I’ve had monsters never an issue. More expensive to maintain, yes, you pay for the brand. More maintenance required? No.
Monster 821 here. Ducati wants $120 or so for the spark plug wrench. I’ve ordered a 14mm thin wall socket online for $15. Have you needed their “special tool” for this?
I have not had to change plugs on my Ducati yet. Unless it's something I already have, I wouldn't mind paying the $120 for the factory Ducati tool if that means making it easier to do the job. Thanks for sharing.
25+ years ago the only source for special tools was Ducati itself, and they were very expensive. Crank turner tool was $100+ in 1996. I too bought a thin wall socket for the spark plugs and still use it. Plain 14mm allen socket for the front axle on that old bike, etc. Owning a Duc is much easier now because they are more mainstream and you can find other companies making tools for them, the internet is a wonderful thing for this as well. Things like clutch holder tools, camshaft clamps for changing belts, and tools for removing the wheels are all one Ebay search away. YT is also immensely helpful.
They surprisingly work pretty well for transportation. Not the most comfortable things ever, but if you want comfort, better off just driving a car honestly.
I haven't seen the 25 V4 yet in person. In videos and photos I will say it is a strange looking bike. I have no doubt the performance will be outstanding, but the new V4 just doesn't look special to me like a Ducati should.
@ridewithKY I honestly liked the front look cuz it looks sharp. But it doesn't look Italian lol. Looks like japanese. But the side fairing is kinda meh, the 20-23 model side fairing with holes looks way more aggressive. If only they made the double swingarm polished aluminum like the r1m I think it would look really nice
Ducati’s, are great! Had 2017 Xdiavel and dealership even told me I had the most miles on it in Northern America with 62,000 miles till the motor blew in 2023. Bought a 2023 Diavel V4 and just broke 13,000 miles. To me they are most definitely reliable but then again your comparing daily nonrid’n conversational piece type dudes vs. real riders. What you want to do is put a shit load of miles and when they go do the Desmo tune because of their sorry service turn around and they keep your bike for about 2 months but then flip the script on them and get a free termi exhaust and clear clutch cover for free. That’s how you play the game my friend’s.
I just bought a 2021 V2 which has been sitting for 3 years and has 600 miles only. ducati's dealer told me to do a desmo check cuz the bike has been sitting for 3 years. does the bike need it or they just want me to pay more
Yeah they are just trying to squeeze a bunch of money out of you. You don't need that service if it has been sitting. There are other items I would service since it has been sitting, but desmo wouldn't be one of them. Take care.
My goal is to do an RSV4 vs V4 comparison. I've been holding off a little because I have been wanting to get more miles on the V4. Now that I am approaching 1,000 miles on the V4, I think I'm in a position to form some conclusions and provide some useful info to everyone. Appreciate the support, thank you!
@@ridewithKY I’ve got a test ride with the 900 Wednesday so we’ll see how that goes. Got to demo the monster and boy does it get hot haha. The monster was definitely fun I’m leaning more towards that
@Anthony-lm8fx awesome. Let me know how that 900 works for you. They are awesome bikes. Very smooth and well made. The monster has a bit more character however.
also the euro superbikes have beaten the japanese superbikes in EVERY COMPARISON FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS STRAIT (CHECK 44 TEETH ECT) EURO BIKES ARE NOW BEWTTER THAN JAPANESE BIKES IN EVERY ASPECT .
Depends on what measurements are being considered for the comparison. Pretty hard to say European bikes across the board beat Japanese bikes across the board. A lot of generalities and absolutes in your statement.
Track yes, but drag racing no. Both have pros and cons. Ducati dominate in the track. But japs bike are dominating in drag racing with crazy mods packing 600hp lol
Hourly rate will vary from location to location. I'm in California so our rates are going to be higher than most locations. Regardless the service ends up being between $1500-2500 depending on if it's done at a dealer/independent and if the valves actually need to be adjusted. A $1500-2500 service every 15,000 miles is not that bad.
Hahaha I should have been clearer on this for sure. Surely you don't need all the cordless tools I have. Can get away with pretty basic hand tools. The only caveat is buying high quality Torx and Allen keys.
@@ridewithKY Yeah haha just joking around, amazing garage tbh I'd like to have something like that in the future. But yeah maybe I wouldn't spend THAT much money in tools xD
Appreciate it man. Thank you! Took time to accumulate all these tools but when you factor in all you’ll save on paying the dealer, the cost is not so bad. Cheers man, take care.
@@ridewithKY I unintentionally implied that that your video is not sincere. I was actually trying to say that you did the video so well that is sounds like an ad.
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I have a panigale V4S 2022 that I purchased new... 2 plus years later and zero issues. congrats on the new bike!
Love to hear it! Seems like these V4's are pretty solid overall. Lucky for us we got ours just in time before Ducati made the Panigale a monstrosity for 2025.
Doing the lord’s work and helping to break the stigma. I’ve had an 848 EVO for 13 years and Streetfighter 848 for almost 8. The only repair ever needed was a VR on the EVO. Everything else has been standard fare.
Awesome! So glad to hear your EVO and your SF have been basically problem free for 13 years. These bikes require more attention for sure and there is a higher bar of entry. However, they are not completely out of reach to the normal person. Thank you for sharing!
@@justinmckeown9029 awesome! So happy to read positive comments about Ducati’s 🇮🇹
Thank you for explaining this to people. Ive owned 9 bikes from various brands including Ducati and I was a service advisor at a motorcycle shop for a while. It amazed me how many misconceptions there are about Ducati ownership. Many issues that id see with motorcycles were caused by the owners use and lack of maintenance.
Exactly. Ducati's certainly aren't problem free, but the current ones are significantly better than ones from even 10 years ago. Keeping up with maintenance and not doing dumb stuff with your bike helps a ton. Your point of view is valuable seeing as you were a service advisor.
Bullet point number 6: they aren’t ridden. At least not by the guys under 30. You come across a Ducati with more than 15K miles on it and the rider will likely be in his early 40s to mid 50s. Under 30 and they’re being used to create content until the new model comes out. Then they’ll make a video explaining why they’re contemplating on getting the new model and ask for viewer thoughts and comments. Not much longer after that comes the new bike delivery video, the future mods videos, the ‘taking my bike to a super car meet’ video then the ‘what I like/what I dislike’ video(s) - rinse and repeat 😂
😂😂😂 can’t argue with you there
Under 30 here ;) just put 2,500 on my 2025 V2 the first month
I had a 749 for over 14 years and 55K miles. That was back when the service intevals were 6500 miles and belt changes at 12K miles. I had a few issues over the life of the bike the worst was when the ECU failed at about 30K miles. Other than that everything else was normal wear and tear items. I also learned to do my own valve checks and adustments, belt changes and adjustments. I sold it a few years ago and still regret it, wish it was still in my garage. I actualy enjoyed taking a couple of days on a weekend to do the service.
Awesome man, appreciate you sharing with us!
I just had my initial service on my 2023 Ducati Super Sport 950S. It’s not bad, 420 dollars out of the door. I love it, the smooth ride, the look. I installed slip on SC project exhaust (800 bucks) myself. Love the sound. I used to own 2022 Kawasaki ZX6R. Yes, parts are cheaper, but my Ducati is definitely a turn head 😁😁 everywhere I went
That’s what it’s all about, enjoying your time on two wheels. Nothing wrong with Kawasaki but Ducati is a different experience for sure. Take care and ride safe.
Same here. Except my dealer charged $520 for the break in service which I felt was a little excessive. But the bike has been great for the first 800 miles and 6 months, and I’m looking forward to not having to do this again for a full year. Just installed a Competition Werkes exhaust and now this bike is absolutely awesome. I had to sell my 911GT3 after I got the Ducati, but the bike provides even more thrills at a fraction of the price.
Awesome man, enjoy. That’s probably one of the higher numbers I’ve seen for a first service.
I have a 2023 Diavel V4 with over 30,000 miles and I've never had a serious problem. Just normal maintenance items. I also have two 2024 Panigale V2s for my twin boys and they each put over 7,000 miles on the Panigales this summer with no problems. In my experience Ducatis are highly reliable and I use them as my daily driver, grocery getter, drag bike, and canyon rippers.
Awesome man. Thank you for sharing. You’ve racked up some miles on that V4, holy cow. Appreciate you chiming in, this will be helpful to somebody out there im certain.
Agreed. I have a 2022 Streetfighter V4sp that has been perfect. A few heat shield bolts have come loose but replaced and lock tight and never an issue again.
On the other side I have a 1290 Superduke that definitely requires more maintenance than the Ducati.
Right on. Glad your SFV4 has been solid. Figure any motorcycle is going to have issues with fasteners loosening up. Appreciate you sharing, thank you.
Thank you for the wealth of knowledge you share with each video!
Your attention to detail when doing anything to your bikes is second to none and hard to find in a shop. Ride safe
Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm so glad you've found these videos to be helpful. Greatly greatly greatly appreciate your support!
@@ridewithKY so do u only need your 1st oil service at 12km ? What does the oil service 1000 mean ?
@lynxeffect84 first service is at 600 miles. Following that it's normal service interval as outlined in the Ducati service schedule chart.
I bought my 2020 V4 in June of 2022 with 800 miles and now it's sitting at 9600 miles. I've done 1 fluid change and replaced the acid battery with a lithium ion battery and I've had zero issues.
Awesome! You are really putting some miles down on that V4. Not sure what type of riding you do, but any regrets at all going with the V4?
Thank you!
My previous V2 panigale, blew up at 4k miles. Bushing on the timing chain cover wore out and boom she went. Dicsti replaced the engine and I put 30k miles on the V2 before trading it in for an S1k.
As far as higher mileage bikes, I'm at 11k on my 24 bmws1000rr and I bought the bike new last January. Living in florida, there are a good number of high mileage bikes out here.
Appreciate you sharing, thank you.
I have owned many motorcycles to include Japanese and european. You gave a very honest and reasonable overview of the current Ducati offerings. If you avoid the belt Ducati of past and the dry clutch models, you will be fine. These models are more expensive to maintain or require you to be able to do more of the work yourself. I have been very happy with my V2. FYI, my first service was $600 at the dealer in the ATL area.
Appreciate you sharing your experience. Definitely on the same page as you, they are certainly more expensive to own than the equivalent Japanese bike, but it's not outrageous. Definitely doable for most normal people. Enjoy that V2, they are excellent bikes.
@@jamiesteiger6140 A “dry clutch” makes me paranoid luckily the 2024 Ducati Monster 👹 I want is wet 👍
Are the latest modern dry clutches still really bad? Or are we talking about older dry clutches?
The newer dry clutches are a little better but the interval is still pretty tight. A lot of it depends on the operator and if it’s vented properly. Generally I see most owners reporting about a 3000 mile interval with street use. Some of the newer dry clutches are very small in diameter and they tend to wear quicker than the larger diameter ones. @dlij285
I think one more factor is the way Ducati rides with the electronics. It is unbelievable how easy it is to ride and go fast. Almost effortless.
Electronics definitely help. Thanks man.
I have four generations of twins: 851, 999, 1098R, 1299S. I have been stranded a total of one time 20 years ago when the (Japanese!) chain failed on my 851.
Each have their quirks like regulator-rectifiers on the desmoquattro models or rusty pipes and screws on the more recent bikes. Maintenance is not terrible, but I do it myself investing in the tools needed to service them properly.
Valve check is expensive if you take it to the dealer, for the cost of one service you could buy the tools and do it forever. Belts on older models are no big deal if you take your time and ensure the tension is correct, several methods are available.
Where you get into trouble is letting them sit for weeks or months and then expecting to ride them hard without issue. But that is the case with any high-performance machine.
Great points all around. I agree, typically it’s worth it to do the maintenance yourself. Plus then you know it’s done correctly, I don’t trust dealers to care about your bike like you would.
Totally agree about not letting them sit either. Quickest way to get leaks is to let a ICE sit for long periods of time. Take care, appreciate you sharing.
@@sburns2421 engines are built to run and run hard 😎 a sitting engine for days on end is just sad 😢
The only issues I’ve had with my 2022 SFV4 was the water pump recall the V4’s are known for and a couple horizontal valve cover leaks (thats pretty common on the V4 if you dive on the forums) over all its been a fantastic machine on the road and the track and I’ve had ZERO catastrophic issues. Im at 7500 miles currently. Even with the costs of ownership associated, theres a reason I’m on my 3rd ducati now. They make a fun bike!
Awesome! Thank you for sharing and glad your V4 has basically been problem free. I totally intended to add in the video that you will notice many people keep buying Ducatis over and over. There is a reason for that. I just forgot to put it in the video!
Great vid! 🎉Thanks so much for your honesty about Ducati. I have a dream of owning a Ducati Monster one day but finically I am just getting by. But that won’t stop me 👍 Saving and working hard to make my Ducati dream come true.
Honestly, I never thought I’d be able to buy one either. Just keep working hard and you’ll have one before you know it. It’s just a matter of perseverance and not losing sight of your goals. You can absolutely buy that Ducati monster if you keep doing what you are doing.
@ 🙏❤️ Thank U! Though I am a bit short on buying a Monster 👹 I am going try an test ride one this weekend. Gotta hear that engine in person 👍
Doesnt have anything crazy - *opens up the Milwaukee tool catalog*
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This Scene was an absolute meme 😂
*Opens Up every drawer of his huge workshop trolley with hundres of Tools in it* and mentions at every single drawer he opens, that its nothing crazy nothing special 😂
@maxepta hahaha I was speaking in terms of a real mechanics toolbox. One cordless snap on drill with charger is over $500. The tools I have one can accumulate pretty quickly by investing a couple hundred dollars a month. A lot of their toolboxes, just the box with no tools are over $20K.
My experience with my two Ducati’s are that you have to change the timing belts every 4 years and oil every 10000km but I’ve been doing it every 500km and it’s lasted without a hitch. My dad Ducati monster 659 2013 has 51000 km on it and he absolutely abuses it every day and he’d got it second hand at 40000 km and it was completely neglected like no old change with daily use for 3 years so from 25-40 thousand km nothing done. After revealing the bike we where given the report and it said that everything was perfect no wear on any bearings no major components needed to be replaced all that needed to be done. Ducatis will last forever if you take care of it and with my monster I’ve had not one issue and it’s worth it trust me
Appreciate you sharing, all good info. 👊🏽
@@av3060 I love ❤️ the Ducati Monster 👹 is it the perfect bike?
Just like with any exotic/high end car. The cost of ownership only goes up exponentially the longer you have the vehicle. For the most part it is fine for the ppl who buy these sort of things new. However the type of person who would try to buy one of these used more likely than not does not have the income level to support the vehicle once the costly repairs/intensive maintenance need to be performed.
It really just depends honestly. I have an exotic car now and the upkeep hasn’t been too bad. It’s all about doing your research, buying a good example of whatever car it is that you want, and being able to do at least some of the maintenance yourself.
The service intervals on Japanese bikes point you made is really good. The difference is that (normally) Japanese parts/labor are substantially less than Italian parts/labor.
As a general statement, yes. However, the gap in maintenance cost is not that bad. I think the largest price gap comes in the aftermarket part world. When every single aftermarket part is 2-3-4x the cost of the equivalent aftermarket part for a Japanese bike, that adds up quick! Thanks man, take care.
@@ridewithKYI actually own an MV Agusta and I can attest to this. The problem is two fold: 1. either the OEM costs an arm and a leg and there’s no aftermarket option whatsoever or 2. the aftermarket part costs as much if not more than the OEM. They kinda expect you to be shelling out top money.
You get a lot of aftermarket stuff that’s not even properly branded but will do the job just fine on Japanese bikes. On MV you only get Lightech, Rizoma, Moto Corse and brands like that.
I don’t own a Ducati but comparing exhaust costs to a Kawasaki should be looked at like the difference between a mustangs exhaust vs a Ferrari. People also say they aren’t worth it either.🤷♂️
Yeah it’s a similar comparison for sure. You buy a Kawasaki, you are getting probably 95% of the performance. No denying that. However, sometimes you just want something else. Thanks man, good point.
Bought a brand new Panigale V4 24 now has 7500 miles had absolutely zero issues 2 times oil change at dealership and that's it pretty much. One advantage to the Pani is that stock v stock compared to other bikes its better at every aspect except the heat. So if money is an issue like with me just don't buy expensive exhausts and unnecessary mods ride the wheels do the maintenance and enjoy your bike.
Great way to put it. Thank you for sharing.
More Onyx screen time pls. Production quality is clutch. I'm so proud of you. 🤝
Need to get you in a video bruh. “Bunny operator goes 200mph with NODS”
@@ridewithKY Your channel would be banned cuz of me. 😂
Sounds like a good time. lol.
Subscribed! This guy is telling the truth🔥
Thank you! 👊🏽.
Bought a brand new 2023 Panigale POS it had big reliability issues. The cam shafts are now case hardened in bushings not the the tool steel in needle bearings. My new bike spent 9 months in dealer 1st year. I had to buy the old Pre 2021 shafts and bearings to fix the issues. Its a crap shoot you get a bike that works vs one that grenades. If they installed the bushings correctly all good if not they fail quickly and the warranty group refused to upgrade and would only put the new crappy parts back. They even admit to the issue. I have owned 7 Ducati Superbikes and unfortunately was my last.
Sorry to hear about your extensive durability/reliability issues with your 23 Panigale. Appreciate you taking the time out to comment to share your experience.
Regarding DIY service & maintenance on recent gen Ducs, can you speak to the costs/tools associated with 1) obtaining an official factory service manual and 2) how the DIYer can clear service alerts, reminders and push updates? (aka "clear the dash" or update without voiding any warranty aspects). I've heard these aspects of Euro bike ownership can be a hassle; if not even possible. Thanks for your super informative video! 🙂
The official service manual is pretty easy to come by. I’ve seen service manual files on eBay for like $40. You basically pay them to send you a PDF of the service manual. They are absolutely worth it as they have all the torque specs in it.
The service alert can either be cleared using Melcodiag (which is free) or you can buy an aftermarket diagnostic scanner. Any normal OBD scanner won’t clear that service code but there are a few aftermarket units out there that can, they are around $500. So not nothing, but it’s not too bad either considering the time and money you’d save from having to go to the dealer. My closest Ducati dealer is 30 minutes away so at least 1 hour of travel time plus however long I’m there waiting. Absolute hassle.
As far as warranty goes… keep all your records of service if you do it yourself. Keep your receipts, maybe take pictures, things like that. Very few things void warranty, there are a few things/scenarios that can cause a warranty claim denial. Does that make sense?
Hope that was helpful. Thank you!
@@ridewithKYDefinitely useful info. I have a few friends that claim they are unable to obtain official service manuals as customers. This is supposedly a Ducati policy as a "matter of owner safety" per correspondence from Ducati (directing them instead to their nearest authorized service center). That's lame imo but if eBay has all of the recent models covered, that's great! I'll direct them that way.
The aftermarket diagnostic tool sounds like a great workaround as well. I suppose at that point you'd only have to go to the dealership for system updates; as I imagine Ducati doesn't make that available to owners.
Great info. Thanks again!
Owned several Ducatis and Japanese.
Panigale V4 I have had 4 (17,20,22 and 23)- not one issue on >10,000 miles total
All parts and maintenance done through Ducati dealership.
Not the cheapest to maintain.
But not more expensive than a BMW or Triumph.
Ridden hard - solid reliability.
No experience with DESMO service… i dont own my bikes that long.
Note: Parts are pricey - so DON’T CRASH!!!
I crashed a 2017 Superleggera a year ago and the total in parts was north of 50k to repair… thats without labor.
While regular Service is priced okay… repairs can be inflated by the cost of parts.
I am sure unscheduled repairs can be more expensive than on a Japanese bike - do not track your bike unless you have solid finances.
All good points, thank you for sharing!
Very informative, considering the v2, after see this video I believe I’ll get one.
Awesome! Glad you found the video helpful. 👊🏽.
When it comes to special tools you actually need a special socket for the safe removal of the rear wheel.
It’s a 30mm socket for the front and 55mm axle nut socket for the rear. $20 on Amazon…
Got 2013 panigale 1199 tricolor and thanks for your insight. Dude your garage is my dream when it comes to looks. I thought it was a local ducati clean ass shop 😂
I appreciate the compliment! 1199 Tricolor is probably one of my favorite Ducat's ever.
This biggest issue for me and others is finding an actual dealer thats not stupid. Ive almost pulled the trigger a few times but the dealers act like its a ferrari here lol! Keep it
Hahaha. I know what you mean. Ducati dealerships can.be full of themselves.
good stuff bro. I think you are a little off key with the dry-clutch thing. I own a 996 and the maintanace is that that bad. it's actually cheaper. if you turn your own wrenches, it so much simpler. the only problem with the 996 is not a great deal of Ducati shops has the right people to work on 'em. dry clutch is easy when change and/or adjusting - no oil needed.
Appreciate you sharing your experience with your 996. I agree with you regarding the simplicity of a dry clutch assembly. However, the interval is still much shorter than a wet clutch. Of course, the life span of a clutch is greatly influenced by the inputs of the operator (one could burn up a clutch in 5 miles if one wanted to), but as a general statement; a wet clutch is almost maintenance free. For the current V4's, checking clutch clearances is not even on the Ducati maintenance table.
I think the most apples to apples we can get is comparing an SP2 to a V4S. Everything mechanically is the same other than dry clutch vs wet clutch. We see most owners clutch intervals on SP2's are around 2000-3500 miles with the basket itself needing to be replaced in and around that 5000 mile mark. Again, you'll see some variance here depending on the operator, if it's properly vented, riding conditions, etc. I think we can lean back on the fact that almost all motorcycles now are wet clutch, including the vast majority of Ducati's. Some of the reason for the wet clutch is undoubtedly to make them easier to ride, but a large part of that migration is because of the lack of required maintenance. If you look in the comments here, you'll see some owners mentioning the short intervals on their current gen dry clutch (SP2, V4R). Doesn't mean dry clutches are bad, but they definitely require more care and attention as opposed to a wet clutch on the same bike, regardless of the simplicity of a dry clutch assembly.
Thank you again for sharing.
Great words bro 🙏🏽😎🏍🔥🔥 very well put indeed. Hoping to pick up an 899 very soon 😎
Awesome man, enjoy that 899 when you get it.
Thanks bro, appreciate the kind words 🙏🏽 Just found the channel 👍🏽😎🏍 looking forward to future content , take it easy man 🔥🔥🔥🏍🔥🔥🔥
@jpmotorsport4728 appreciate the support, thank you! Enjoy the world of Ducati once you get one. 👊🏽.
Ducatis are reliable but a tad expensive to maintain. Had a 2019 v4 with 26k miles. 3 water pumps but otherwise pretty good. I’ve now got a 2023 sp2…..dry clutch maintenance is ridiculous….$2-3k every 3k miles…..and my riding style is primarily canyon rides. Annual service is $600. In summary….reliable good, operating expense a bit high
Yeah if maintenance cost is at all a concern then a dry clutch is not the move. Glad you've enjoyed your V4 and now SP2. Ride safe.
First bike was 2021 Supersport 950s, just bought the 2024 V4S
Awesome! Enjoy that V4S!
Thanks for this video...ever since Audi bought Ducati reliability has just gotten better and better. It was an issue in the "old" days, but today, it's not an issue....but people still live in the past, so it gets talked about still. I have '23 V4S also....as well as an R1, Gixxer 1K, an RSV4, and a Triumph. The only brand I have not ever owned is a BMW....maybe someday. The initial cost of ownership is a little steep, but all Japanese Big bikes have gone up significantly as well since Covid started. Unless you buy a previous year left over, liter bikes are all pricey now. I had a question about what do you use to make all your bikes shines so much :)....and I was curious about your thoughts on the new '25 V4?
Man! You’ve got a little bit of everything. Jealous of your current stable.
I use Adam’s grapheme ceramic coating and use p&s beadmaker in between coatings. Seems to work pretty well for me and best of all is a pretty simple application process.
The 25 V4 in pictures and video look strange to me. I have no doubt the performance will be outstanding but as far as aesthetics go; it’s a step backward. Maybe if I see it in person my mind will change but judging solely on pictures/video, the current gen looks a lot better.
I bought my ducati and was suprised it does not come with any kind of tools with it. You cant even tighten the chains without going to the dealer not a big deal but how much would it cost to include tiny bag of special tools to a bikes price. I also had damage on my bike after first service (offical ducati dealer) they bought me new damaged parts but thease bikes dont get appreciated the way they should.
I get it, but you can buy a complete spanner set to adjust the chain for about $20. I think the only bike I've ever bought that had a tool set was a Husqvarna and those tools were barely useable anyhow.
Japanese food is so good - have you ever had teriyaki chicken? Try that with a spaghetti bike
There are not a ton of Ducati, Aprilia, MV Agusta Dealers near where I live. Hate the dry clutch on the Ducati.
Always one of the top considerations before buying one of these bikes. If there’s no dealership nearby, I would avoid.
My buddy bought an Aprilia was a nightmare for him, he had to ride a few hours just to get it serviced. I just bought what was easy enough to get service. But the bike was something I wanted.
My PanigaleV2 piston broke and pierced into the engine smashing everything inside at 18,000km. Thankfully I had the entire engine replaced with Warranty.
I don’t know if that’s consider lucky, or unlucky lol.
Having had this experience I will never buy a premium bike without warranty ever. New or Preown, I’d only buy with warranty.
Great video btw! 👍🏽👊🏽
Sorry to hear about the catastrophic failure on your V2, but glad it was covered under warranty. Warranty is a nice safety net to have.
Thank you for the support!
If anything requires a part for Ducati, the bike is down for three weeks! Suzuki, Yami, or any other Japanese bike, you will get your bike the next day! So, if you can live with that, then go for it! I personally cannot pay for a bike by making payments while it is sitting in a dealer for a thermostat!
Not necessarily. I’ve needed a Ducati part before and was able to get it same day or within a few days. Part availability has gotten a lot better following the Volkswagen Auto Group acquisition.
@@ridewithKY it still hit and miss brother! I can tell you my street racer was on the fritz for stupid parts more than I care to remember!
how are you liking the termignoni exhaust? I'm thinking about getting it because of the low rumble and sound
I love the termignoni exhaust. In a perfect world I wish they were a little louder (I have the DB killers out). Hopefully the packing will blow out a little and I'll get a slight increase in sound, the tone however is perfect. I've heard a few different exhausts for these bikes in person and it's easy to make these 1103 V4's sound bad. As long as you aren't expecting a loud exhaust, you will be happy with the Termignoni's.
Only other issue I have with this exhaust is it's surprisingly heavy. It is lighter than the stock exhaust, but not by much. You'll save about 5 lbs or so.
Take care, let me know how else I can help.
@@ridewithKY did it help with the heat as well?
@ooopepper it helped tremendously with heat.
The moral of the story is. Older Ducatis especially the older Panigale and the 848 1098 and before are not the most reliable bikes of all time but can be if very well maintained. The new bikes however are just as good as any bike on the market. The 899 and up to the newest v4s are amazing bikes and very reliable. You are buying an Italian bike so it is going to be more expensive to maintain that’s like buying a foreign car and bitching about maintenance. Less bikes means more expensive parts. Buy a gsxr if you want 30 dollar parts off 1000 crashed bikes on eBay.
All good points.
great video and very informative. where are you located? just bought a V4R 24 adn have a lot of questions about service.
Thank you! I’m in Northern California.
Would really like to buy a first gen street fighter but shied away due to maintenance cost horror stories. I’m perfectly comfortable doing my own valve jobs and belt replacements on my Hondas all day long. Do you think I could do the. Laces and belts on the Street fighter?
Generally cars are harder to work on than motorcycles. Even complicated motorcycles are relatively simple compared to complicated cars. I’d say if you can do your own timing belt and valve adjustments on your Hondas then you can do it on these Ducati twins.
@@ridewithKY Thanks!
Always look forward to your videos
Really appreciate that! Thank you for always watching and supporting. Hope the videos are helpful/useful to you!
I guess I’ll be the first one putting a shit load of miles on mine 😂 thing was meant to ride and ride I will ! Also good thing I know how to do my own services that 400 for an oil change is crazy to me 😨
Enjoy yours. Yeah it's an easy service honestly. Only thing you can't do is clear the maintenance light and perform updates. Most dealerships will do this as a separate service though so it's really not that big of a deal.
@ I haven’t bought it yet because I’m between a v2 and a v4 which is how I landed on your channel haha, which btw great videos ! I forgot to sub but I will ! I just need to choose which one I want I don’t know if I should save a bit more and get the v4 or the v2 so that’s where I stand right now. Thank you for the info btw !
This was helpful thx dude 👍
Appreciate the comment, glad the video was helpful!
Great video 😊 i ride a streetfighter V4S
One of my favorite naked bikes for sure. Love how Ducati doesn’t water down their naked bike engines like most of the other manufacturers.
Bikes and cars these days are so expensive, i can barely afford a nice car how will i ever justify a bike like this 😭😭
If you really want to then you can. Don’t automatically condemn yourself to never being able to afford the things you want. It can absolutely be done. 👊🏽.
Can you make a video for installing clear clutch covers to your ducatis?
I appreciate the suggestion. However, I am not a fan of clear clutch covers. I know they are very popular but it's just not really my thing. Take care, thank you!
Seems the V4s aren’t causing any issues. I’d the Sfv4 grey Nero. Before that I’ve had monsters never an issue. More expensive to maintain, yes, you pay for the brand. More maintenance required? No.
Great way to put it. Thank you for sharing. 👊🏽.
Monster 821 here. Ducati wants $120 or so for the spark plug wrench. I’ve ordered a 14mm thin wall socket online for $15. Have you needed their “special tool” for this?
I have not had to change plugs on my Ducati yet. Unless it's something I already have, I wouldn't mind paying the $120 for the factory Ducati tool if that means making it easier to do the job. Thanks for sharing.
25+ years ago the only source for special tools was Ducati itself, and they were very expensive. Crank turner tool was $100+ in 1996. I too bought a thin wall socket for the spark plugs and still use it. Plain 14mm allen socket for the front axle on that old bike, etc.
Owning a Duc is much easier now because they are more mainstream and you can find other companies making tools for them, the internet is a wonderful thing for this as well. Things like clutch holder tools, camshaft clamps for changing belts, and tools for removing the wheels are all one Ebay search away. YT is also immensely helpful.
@sburns2421 all great info. I can tell your statements are coming from a place of experience. Thank you for being helpful.
I just cant afford to total one on a track and they make so much power it just seems kinda useless for the road, gorgeous bikes though
They surprisingly work pretty well for transportation. Not the most comfortable things ever, but if you want comfort, better off just driving a car honestly.
Do you recall where you ordered the flooring for your garage?
The flooring is Swiss trax. They can be ordered direct or through Obsessed Garage.
What's your opinion on the the ducati 2025? With single swingarm
I haven't seen the 25 V4 yet in person. In videos and photos I will say it is a strange looking bike. I have no doubt the performance will be outstanding, but the new V4 just doesn't look special to me like a Ducati should.
@ridewithKY I honestly liked the front look cuz it looks sharp. But it doesn't look Italian lol. Looks like japanese. But the side fairing is kinda meh, the 20-23 model side fairing with holes looks way more aggressive. If only they made the double swingarm polished aluminum like the r1m I think it would look really nice
I agree. It’s lost its Italian appearance. Just looks like a normal sport bike now. Aesthetically it’s a step back in my opinion.
Ducati’s, are great! Had 2017 Xdiavel and dealership even told me I had the most miles on it in Northern America with 62,000 miles till the motor blew in 2023. Bought a 2023 Diavel V4 and just broke 13,000 miles. To me they are most definitely reliable but then again your comparing daily nonrid’n conversational piece type dudes vs. real riders. What you want to do is put a shit load of miles and when they go do the Desmo tune because of their sorry service turn around and they keep your bike for about 2 months but then flip the script on them and get a free termi exhaust and clear clutch cover for free. That’s how you play the game my friend’s.
Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
@@ridewithKYhey man keep it up bro. I enjoy learning from your content.
appreciate your support! So glad the videos are helpful to you.
I just bought a 2021 V2 which has been sitting for 3 years and has 600 miles only. ducati's dealer told me to do a desmo check cuz the bike has been sitting for 3 years. does the bike need it or they just want me to pay more
Yeah they are just trying to squeeze a bunch of money out of you. You don't need that service if it has been sitting. There are other items I would service since it has been sitting, but desmo wouldn't be one of them. Take care.
@@ridewithKY thank you man i'm relief now by the way huge fan of your content. can't wait to see more and more of rsv4
@yamkaw2003 appreciate the support! And so glad you have found my content to be helpful. More RSV4 content on the way. 👊🏽.
When’s rsv4 content coming bro?
My goal is to do an RSV4 vs V4 comparison. I've been holding off a little because I have been wanting to get more miles on the V4. Now that I am approaching 1,000 miles on the V4, I think I'm in a position to form some conclusions and provide some useful info to everyone. Appreciate the support, thank you!
@@ridewithKY thanks! ps. RSV4 is bezt bro :P
Great video !!! 👌👌💯💯
Appreciate it, thank you!!!
What are your thoughts on the Ducati monster 937? In between that and the xsr900
I don’t think you can go wrong with either personally. I am a Ducati fan though so if it were me, I would get a monster.
@@ridewithKY I’ve got a test ride with the 900 Wednesday so we’ll see how that goes. Got to demo the monster and boy does it get hot haha. The monster was definitely fun I’m leaning more towards that
@Anthony-lm8fx awesome. Let me know how that 900 works for you. They are awesome bikes. Very smooth and well made. The monster has a bit more character however.
@@ridewithKYended up going with the xsr900. Gonna keep this one for 2 years and will end up getting a street fighter next for sure!
You’ve made a great choice. XSR900 is a fantastic motorcycle.
V4S is a great bike. But mine is in the shop right now.😂🐐
😂😂😂 it happens man.
@@ridewithKY a lot for me 😂🐐
Can you do a similar video on a Supersport? Asking for a friend
Supersport has some pretty long intervals. Even the demo is out a little further at 30,000KM's.
Way less expensive valve services on Japanese sports bikes - fact.
Ok, how much is your average valve service on a Japanese bike?
@@ridewithKY450-750
There’s no way. The 600 mile service alone on our XSR900 was over $400… that was after shopping around the local Yamaha dealers.
I abused my s1K and never had an issue. Now i am abusing the panigale, same results so far
Awesome, appreciate you sharing that with us. 👊🏽.
Money and Money
So there’s no point in buying a Ducati if you can’t put miles on it that’s kind of pointless
Not really. That’s up to that person.
also the euro superbikes have beaten the japanese superbikes in EVERY COMPARISON FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS STRAIT (CHECK 44 TEETH ECT) EURO BIKES ARE NOW BEWTTER THAN JAPANESE BIKES IN EVERY ASPECT .
Depends on what measurements are being considered for the comparison. Pretty hard to say European bikes across the board beat Japanese bikes across the board. A lot of generalities and absolutes in your statement.
Track yes, but drag racing no. Both have pros and cons. Ducati dominate in the track. But japs bike are dominating in drag racing with crazy mods packing 600hp lol
Ive liked, ive subscribed, and still you havent gotten a harley on the channel.....
waiting to get yours on the channel G.
$180 an hour is wild. Desmo is a huge service. Replace belts etc with valves.
Hourly rate will vary from location to location. I'm in California so our rates are going to be higher than most locations. Regardless the service ends up being between $1500-2500 depending on if it's done at a dealer/independent and if the valves actually need to be adjusted. A $1500-2500 service every 15,000 miles is not that bad.
No belts on the v4.
@@ugapug5150 that’s good to know. I will be buying one soon.
@@gruhnchris it's a great bike, I love mine.
Cool videos but sometimes you repeat something a number of times in a video which can be a little annoying.
Thanks for the feedback.
Dude says "nothing special" after showing us hundreds and hundreds of dollars in tools of all kinds xD.
Hahaha I should have been clearer on this for sure. Surely you don't need all the cordless tools I have. Can get away with pretty basic hand tools. The only caveat is buying high quality Torx and Allen keys.
@@ridewithKY Yeah haha just joking around, amazing garage tbh I'd like to have something like that in the future. But yeah maybe I wouldn't spend THAT much money in tools xD
Appreciate it man. Thank you! Took time to accumulate all these tools but when you factor in all you’ll save on paying the dealer, the cost is not so bad. Cheers man, take care.
Why does this video sound like a paid promotion?!
I mean… if you think Ducati North America cares about this little channel enough to pay me then I don’t know what to tell you. 😂.
@@ridewithKY I unintentionally implied that that your video is not sincere. I was actually trying to say that you did the video so well that is sounds like an ad.
Got it, and sorry I misunderstood. Appreciate your kind words. Glad the video was helpful to you. 👊🏽.
Not everyone can own a Ducati. 😅
Surely not everyone but it’s not so far out of reach like some people think it is. Thanks for the support.
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