I’m a rider myself, and if I ever have anything in common or be associated in any way with the type of content creator riders that wear ruroc helmets, I’ll just stop being a rider
If you do really want a Gortex top and bottom and don’t want to break the bank, go to your local military surplus store and look for their waterproof pants/jackets. You’ll spend a fraction of the price and it’s all made to be thrown on over whatever you’re already wearing, including boots. Hope this helps.
The point was that wearing rain gear when it’s not raining isn’t comfortable. You’re better off with season appropriate dry gear and a more basic rain suit you put on when it’s raining and you tuck away when it’s not.
Yeah that’s not exactly true depending on where in Texas you are. Anywhere on the golf coast is real hot and also real humid six months a year. The worst case scenario for wearing rain gear around all the time “just in case”
Both my carbon helmets weigh very little. I weld for a living so I have to wear a helmet 8 hours a day at work. Hurts with my neck if helmets are too heavy. I have a full face for the cold and a dirt helmet for the summer. FXR dirt helmet is insanely light. Those couple pounds matter to some of us
What you said about the tether not pulling is a very good reason to consider a wireless system but having to pay a subscription fee for your life saving equipment will ALWAYS be a scam.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Yup. Get your wallet stolen, cancel your cards, and get your airbag system shut off as you crash your bike on the way home. Rough day.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 There's an airbag made by Klim that has a very discounted upfront cost, but requires a subscription. Most airbags are pay once, ride forever. Though you do have to maintain them by keeping them charged or clipping in every time you ride. Electronic airbags also have to be factory serviced after a crash, vs. tethered airbags which can be serviced by the end user and typically use cheaper gas mixes.
On a trip in Canada in September the Temps changed from 25C and sunny to 1C and rain. Hard rain. I did 2 consecutive 700 km days In 1 degree and rain. My Klim riding suit kept me warm and dry. On hot days I open all the vents and the air flows through like I'm not wearing anything. If you're actually doing some miles you are going to ride through scattered showers. Not having to stop to put on rain gear is a big plus. And let's not forget the magic foam padding in all the critical areas that stays soft and squishy until it takes an impact and the kevlar panels in case of a slide. The colours match my bike perfectly as well. Love My Klim gear. Worth every penny
I was going post almost exactly the same response. FYI Yammie, there are actually some ADV riders that do multiple 1000km days (620 miles so you don't need to do the math) back to back and don't stop for weather. Putting on and taking off a garbage bag rain suits sucks when it rains intermittently all day. I ride in northern Quebec in areas where I need to carry a satellite communicator. Help could be a long way off in the event of a crash so like the original poster, I love my Klim Badlands for the top spec safety and don't regret paying for it.
All I'm gonna say is the ruroc diablo helmet saved my life as I crashed at 60mph smacking my helmet and doing 5 or 6 barrel rolls across the highway, I made a Facebook post on the ruroc Facebook page and they sent me a brand new helmet for free! I'd probably be dead or in a coma if I didn't have a helmet on during that wreck. Do ur own research tho but that was my experience with ruroc
So I work for a race team sponsored by Ruroc and our rider went down twice this season both times in a Ruroc. Still to his head in one piece undamaged. Take that for what you will but its enough for me as the mechanic to wear a ruroc in my personal life.
yeah, they were kind shitty and sketchy, but the new ones are really comfortable and look sick. They came in strong and people forget that the fisrt couple of itterations of new product will have flaws. i have the 3.0 and 4.0 and both still feel great. they are a bit expensive but it looks like they only say that with ruroc and not other brands?
Only thing i disagree with is specifically the HUD with the Ray-Bans or BMW ConnectedRide sunglasses, as they can both be used outside of just motorcycles. Aside from that, agreed on all fronts
I was with him all the way up to HUDs. Honestly, it felt a little "old man yells at cloud" 😅 surprising he can't see the safety benefits of only moving your eyes and being able to stay aware of directional info, calls & media, even rear view. I think it's inarguable your reaction time would be quicker than lifting/turning your head 🤷🏿♂️
Mostly agree, except about the high-quality helmets bit. The point of Aero design is not to squeeze out an extra mph, but to reduce wind resistance and buffeting on your head, which reduces the strain on your neck, just like the reduced weight of carbon fibre helmets does. In combination that does make a difference over the course of a full day of riding, let alone longer tours. And another note on rain gear -- while I personally prefer an outer-layer solution to slip on, a buddy of mine prefers waterproof gear because he says the probability of getting rained on during a multi-day trip is 1 and he hates stopping to dress up and undress. So it's simply a matter of personal preference.
My Joe Rocket Atomic keeps me cool in the summer, warm in the winter, dry in the rare rain ride, and roadrash free when I low sided. Got mine for $140 and I'm still wearing it.
THANKS for the honest opinion on ruroc. I was always drawn to those and multiple times I was close to click the BUY button... but for some reason I always chose HJC or SHOEI
Have you ever owned a ruroc?....... I have, twice. The first one actually saved my life and the ONLY ONE issue I had with the helmets was that on occasion, very rarely, the connection for the Bluetooth with other riders sometimes lagged out. None the less sound was great, padding was great, 9/10 times id be using the Bluetooth personally just for music which always worked without a problem.
Gore-tex only works well with snowmobile gear. A high end Tobe onesie with goretex costs around $800 (without the liner, but you can just wear a sweatshirt underneath if your being cheap) and nice goretex Klim gloves are about $130 and are a godsend.
So I'm a mostly fairweather rider, but I've got a set of "Moto Line" one piece waterproofs I bought in the late 90s, and they still work fine! I was in an hour long heavy downpour recently and was still dry underneath. That's what I call value for money.
Under $1000 for all the recommended beginner gear in your description is amazing to me. I was thinking it would be more like $3000+. Time for me to get off instagram and actually learn things. Thank you for educating me.
Accidental deployment of tethered vests is low because there’s a measure of force required to deploy. But that leads to your other criticism that there are crash scenarios where it won’t deploy when you need it
There are also scenarios where electronuc vests don't always deploy, like, funny enough, some lowsides. For example, I've seen several reports of Alpinestars TA vests not deploying during lowsides. A-stars has been updating its algorithm to address issues like that but they are not foolproof by any means. Electronic vests also seem to still be more likely to falsely deploy. Check the fine print on the e-vests. One major maker of the electronics for several brand-name vests seems to say that users should only expect the vest to deploy in ~75% of crashes. Not foolproof at all. The good news is that all airbag vests, no matter the type, are worth having if you can afford one. And both have trade-offs. E-vests should deploy faster but are subject to potentially more failure ponts--plus most are still not user serviceable and are expensive to maintain. Tethered vests won't deploy as quickly and, theoretically, in as many situations, but are arguably more reliable for the big crashes (if set up properly). And despite what YN claims, tethered vests are actually quite difficult to falsely deploy. He really hasn't done his homework here.
@@ApexRadius Without extra sensors on the bike, usually attached to the forks, most electronic vests won't deploy when in a stationary accident e.g. rear ending at a junction. The Helite tethered vests are also one of the cheapest to recharge with air, and can be reused immediately (although recommended that they are inspected after an accident) if you have the allen key and a spare compressed air canister which are like $35. I got the Helite Vented airbag jacket which can be used year round since it has a waterproof/windproof liner; £685/$939 to get two bits of kit in one. It does get a little warm around 30 Celcius but in the UK it generally doesn't get warmer than that often. Having my personal safety dependant on a subscription for the vest to function is a big disincentive for me, what is the long term support like and what if the manufacturer decides to change it's pricing. If they made some sort of hybrid system that was both physically tethered, and used some other way of determining the bikes speed, e.g. wheel sensor, for electronic deployment, which didn't require a subscription and was easy to service, I would be up for one.
Correct, electronic vests have their issues as well. A lot of these vests rely for instance on gps. No gps signal means no deployment. Also the vests get primed after traveling a certain amount of distance or time. Meaning you jump on your bike, drive off, and instantly crash equals no deployment. In the end, riding with an airbag vest is good. Tethered or electronic. Both have their pro and cons.
@@Bordpie Yes, for sure. The Helite e-Turtle requires the optional fork sensor ($158 US) to detect very slow speed or stationary crashes, like rear-enders. It's also supposed to improve overall crash detection. Some of the other e-airbags will only deploy at something like 10-15 mph. The manufacturers are always improving the electronic systems--I seem to recall that A-stars has now included stationary crashes in its algorithm, but I might be mistaken--but they still have limitations. I've seen a lot of reports for years that various brand electronic systems didn't deploy during some lowsides, including the aforementioned A-stars TA, and even some lowsides that included tumbling. A tethered system would probably fair better with tumbling following a lowside. (But I'm personally a little less concerned with lowsides than the bigger crashes.) Creating an electronic system for street riding is more difficult than for racing/track applications. It has to account for more factors and nuance than in the more predictable and controlled track environment. For instance, you're not likely to smash into a pothole on a race track, so the system doesn't have to figure out if that kind of impact is a crash or not. And stationary rear-enders are really unlikely on track, so it doesn't really have to account for them. Another factor: Many electronic systems must be worn under gear (like the AS TA-5), which means that you might have to buy new (bigger) outer gear that allows enough room for deployment. Tethered vests/harnesses are usually worn over a jacket or suit and might even be a little more comfortable in hotter conditions. I have the latest Hit-Air (made in Japan) tethered harness that's the same concept as the Helite tethered vests. I think they're the oldest manufacturer of moto airbags and they're well made. They also make the Spidi-branded airbag. I chose it over the Helite simply because it's a more open design that flows a bit more air and it's easier to wear over a suit or jacket with a race hump. I would be happy to have an electronic one, too, but for primarily street riding, the tethered system made a little more sense for me. But I realize that it won't be perfect, either. I have also thought about a dual-trigger system that uses an optional tether as a backup but it seems like it would be very complicated to make work, would be quite expensive, and might not be worth it in the end.
I have a Klim Carlsbad jacket, which us laminated Gore-Tex, and recently bought a pair of Alpinestars RT-8 GTX boots. I use them for commuting and work, and love them. Weather is unpredictable, most of the time it rains, some days don't. I would feel more discomfort carrying a whole set of rain gear all the time. I plan on buying a mesh jacket when summer hits, boots are great in hot and cold weather, wear them all day until I get home.
I've settled on Arai helmets, they're the most comfortable fit for me by far. Had Shoei and 2x AGV's in the past, but both gave me headaches on long rides. Not all Arai's are super expensive, but they're always good quality and reasonably quiet. Never heard of Ruroc but they look gimmicky ... and for kids.
I have one of the expensive Klim jackets. It was expensive even when it was on sale. But it's honestly been one of the best motorcycle jackets I've ever had for both ergonomics and not being too hot while also providing good rain protection. When you ride your motorcycle to work it's nice to not show up super sweaty. They're also good jackets when the temperature in the morning is low 50's and the ride home is sunny and low 80's. Plus it's pockets are great. It's also very comfortable for when I ride the bike somewhere and then have to walk around. I've spent more money buying many cheaper jackets before I bought the Klim, but none of them did pretty much everything I wanted.
7:30 and that's why I kept both of mine from the Navy (my original and after they changed the uniforms) when I go on a long ride I wear my armored Harley hoodie (waterproof and abrasion resistant) regardless of the weather. for shorter rides I roll my issued gortex and throw it in my saddle bag so if it starts raining I can pull over and throw it on.
@@patrickwharton5042 Helmets with heads-up displays and rear cameras are actually pretty cool. The key advantage is that you don’t have to look down at your phone, which is the actual source of distraction.
i agree with most of what your saying bar 2 things, best heads up display helmet i have seen and used is the Australian built Forcite helmet, instead of a map, it uses lights to inform you of turns and hazards. also has a very good built in camera. 2nd is the tethered airbag vest, i have nether set mine off by forgetting it connectected. the slow pull ,lets you know and isn't the sharp pull that coming off the bike generates. and if you follow motogp, you have seen the accelerometers one's deploy without been in a crash.
Guilty on 2 fronts: Klim and Gore-Tex. There are alternatives out there, but as a long distance touring rider who rides through weather extremes, and lots of trial and error, I have come to rely on both and they do well every time.
Hey, I agree with 90% of your vid but... there was a great HUD company NUVIZ that I found REALLY great. Shame they failed but the HUD unit I have was really cool and SAVED me on my first US motocycle trip. I understand your ideas in this vid but I actually liked helmut hud idea.
#2 if you ride a naked bike like me, it is important to have a helmet, that stays steady in the wind. Had my Shoei GTR 2 stolen, so I needed a new helmet. I tested around 6 helmets and there are still bad ones in the ~400€ range. Ended up buying a Scorpion Exo R1 in onyx black (forged carbon style).
As an ADV guy, my sub 200 dollar Sedici jacket is top tier. Cooler than my perforated leather jacket, waterproof, hella pockets even one for a hydration bladder, armor, good protection rating. But I am looking at getting the Klim Krios Pro helmet so ya got me there 😭
My carbon fiber Ruroc helmet actually relieves much of neck stress I got from my previous Agv K1. Agv makes full carbon fiber helmets but the price is double. I am not into the superhero thing but the Ruroc helmet looks like pretty solid and well-made. All liner and cushioning materials are in a pretty good quality. The customer service seems to be even better than Agv or Shoei. The visor seal got loose and flew off on highway one day and I emailed Ruroc. They immediately mailed me a new one with their branded T-shirt for free. 😂
I really thought you were just another one of the many content creators out there until this video. Thank you for calling out Ruroc for the garbage that they are. I work at a motorcycle shop and some of the employees HERE wear them. I’ll never understand. Top notch video!
So you're a good weather biker? Goretex or Thinsulate or whatever is also the best windbreaker. Maybe you don't need it because your airbagpack functions as a bodywarmer as well. But when it realy gets cold-does your innerjacket still fit, if you wear that? 1
Never heard of Ruroc. I wear a 1966 open face helmet. Don't know the brand. Rain gear? I use it. Ride w lot in northeast US. In early spring rain and snow is common. I have a rain Jacket from Cycle Gear (about $30) and it keeps me dry. It also is 100 percent windproof and keeps me warm. Many years ago I wore a Belstaff waxed cotton jacket. Worked well for many years. I wore Gore-Tex parkas for skiing for many years. Not waterproof and not very breathable. On a motorcycle you are not very active. Waterproof (urethane coated) works just fine.
i'm perfectly fine with an hjc rpha-1. ece 22.06 and FIM folded into the largely ridiculously named FRHPhe-01 cert. it does the business. and they're on sale every so often, so if you're patient you can get them for a reasonable price. retail is ~700ish us. which is on par with most good lids. basic black or white, or any one of a variety of eye watering graphic options.
I buy a helmet every few years when I return to Japan. You can buy a Japanese carbon fiber helmet for around $350. Of course, you can also buy Shoei and Arai helmets at low prices. The big gear stores are often far from the train stations, but you can usually get there by bus. If you are planning to visit Japan, why don't you go there?
My biggest concern with airbag vests or suits is the ability to refill them your self. Some you have to send into the manufacturer after every crash. My Helite, which happens to be tethered, saved me in my first race of the day. It was an almost high side that bucked me off the inside of the bike. I was able to stick a new canister in there and ride the next race and hour later.
I’ve had several helmets including Ruroc Atlas 4. I’ll never pay the premium prices for helmets that Yammy recommends. Realistically I’m not racing, I’m just a daily rider. The Ruroc is great. Very comfortable and ECE rated. You can’t fake ECE. Also, they look freaking cool.
Many good points, but if you live in Norway, 3 layer Goretex, are a lifesaving technology, because weather and temperature can change in minutes. I just love it.
That airbag vest is awesome! Gotta get me one of those. I currently wear the Icon compression shirt and 3/4 compression pants that have the impact zones covered with D3O and Kevlar, but the vest looks like it provides ultimate protection for upper body.
I just got a carbon fiber helmet. And I did pay double the price in it than a multi compound, but I did it cause I want the double D. And if I want to go to the track, they only accept double Ds... so, its just a matter of looking what suites you needs and also preferences not trends or youtubers.
Gore tex is a compromise, as everything is, but it is really impressive to this day. I still use my 1991 us army issue jacket regularly, and it still works great. It has remained waterproof, but not unbearably hot when it's dry out when hiking. To be fair, it has extensive venting, that can be closed by rugged zippers when it starts to rain. For an older guy like myself, goretex still remains a selling point.
I think you’re wrong about the HUD concept. If done properly, it can be a great accessory. Connect it to the blind spot radar, the dash to see warning lights, nav etc. and it can be a very useful tool. Yes of course you can do without, but we've been riding without ABS or TC or many other tech that are now standard and we were fine, only now we do better.
Reference airbags. I have the Dainese vest. Over 28C you will melt from the heat, 0 ventilation. My friend has the same airbag vest like you, lives in Spain. In the summer he never uses the airbag, just to hot. Reference KLIM - 50% off in the sale for Baja s4 jacket, NEVER pay full price.
@@jamesmicheal8736 Not a bad idea, just wish I had more space on the bars/clip on. Maybe the future is having rear cameras built into the tail of the bike from factory, then you can pair it with a HUD in whatever helmet supports it. Would certainly make the helmets cheaper. This might be against regulations though
I've got a little 2" rear view camera system on my bike that I use the heck out of. It doesn't replace mirrors, but it's good enough to tell me when I have someone on my tail. My actual mirrors are a pair of Kemimoto "bar end" mirrors mounted inboard of my switch assemblies and pointing under my arms. Not quite as good as sport bike mirrors, but better than having mirrors at the ends of my bars when I'm partly tucked forward.
I personally dont care about aero functionality i prefer the look of it itself same for carbon fiber but hey 🤷♂️ also love the video keep up the good work n safe riding👍
Gore tex is the standard for a reason. Skiers/Boarders, Hikers, Mountaineers, etc. all love it. I clock 50+ days skiing every season and know I'm getting reasonable water proofing when gore tex is there. That being said - I definitely do not ride my motorcycle in the rain enough to care about waterproofing. If you're one of the psychopaths that do, you should know that every season you should apply new waterproofing.
Carbon helmet is definitely worth it. It shaved 200 grams off of the helmet. I used a normal Scorpion Exo-Tech, then bought a carbon one which did definitely feel slightly lighter. After that I bought an Evo-1400 carbon, which is even lighter. It makes a huge difference to comfort for me, especially on longer rides. Bonus point: It looks sick.
Sidenote: The carbon version of my helmet was not even €100 more expensive. It's a 350 euro helmet, which is not that expensive for the quality that Scorpion delivers.
The nice thing about Klim is North American sizing. Euro brands tend to run a bit small, even with glove sizes. For a good alternative to Klim, have a look at MSR gear. It's available at Rocky Mountain ATV. It's Klim quality at 1/2 - 2/3 the price.
I’ve recently had my little intro into biking. My great grandpa had this old 1969 bsa 650 lightning imported new. The damn thing hasn’t seen the road since 1974 and went through a house fire about 5 years ago. I was surprised when all I had to do was replace the tires, rebuild the carbs, and replace all the fluids and now the thing runs and drives. Took me 12 days to clean off all the ash by hand, no pressure washer to be seen, and actually get it to run which most of that was me waiting for parts. Pretty damn easy to work on except it was designed by the British so there’s a lot of quirks with it. Like the carbs can only be taken off and put back on if you go thread by thread on both nuts at the same time. Kind of weird. Or the fact that there are two manuals for it and both are for like 6 different years of bikes and don’t actually correspond to the bike I have. Or the fact you put oil in the oil tank and a check valve feeds oil to the crank but only when the bike is running so after an oil change you have to run the bike with no oil until it decides to put some in it. Or the fact the brakes are apart of the wheel so if you want to change those out you have to take off the wheel. I mean some of that might just be all bikes but seriously weird coming from a car background.
The thing with most electronic vests are they’re not designed to be recharged by the end-user and must be sent in. I guess alpinestars are going in the right direction with their adventure spec’d airbags
I got a Nolan N60-6 cause they fit me better than every other helmet I tried and it fit the budget. it's approved for use on tracks in the UK, looks cool enough, comfortable, glasses/sunglasses friendly and I can't feel my headphones under the helmet so I can comfortable listen to music
I have an Arai Quantic and switched to an AGV Corsa R (same shell as a Pista). The difference in aero was massive. The Arai would get battered around in the wind it was annoying as hell. The Corsa slices through the air like butter it’s a fantastic helmet. Only issue is it’s discontinued so when I want to replace it I’ll have to get a Pista and I don’t want to pay for a Pista 😂
headsup display..well... in a new city you never have been in before,it can definitly be usefull, not needing to look down to follow the gps - but on another hand, i have my gps connected to my scala-system,so i can hear the directions, gore-tex, yup..i cant live whitout it, here the weather changes very fast, so a sunny and nice morning for a ride usually ends up in a soaking wet arrival home in the afternoon
One disagreement. The Klim Hardanger One Piece Suit is a good deal. Its one-piece design is both safe and very comfortable for long tours. Its many zippered slits adjust it to a wide range of temperatures. It even has a long zippered slit that enables you to take it off without needing to climb out. Waterproof and super high quality. Great design. It lists for $1600, but I got mine at discount for less than $1300. Oh, Klim also provides insurance on it in case of crash. They send you a brand new one. Ask me how I know.
Hi Yammie, i do think Gore-Tex is useful for daily riders that live in a country where the weather is unpredictable like UK, but not necessarily the full gear.
I’ve always enjoyed my Kim jacket. Just buy them used or on sale when they’re at the end of a generation. Quality is a lot better than my older jackets for sure, and people who have crash tested them seem happy.
Id love to have a GPS heads up display. Riding in the city not having to look down would be awesome. Keep my phone out of the desert sun would also be nice.
Imo gore-tex is worth it mostly in gloves. Not in the middle of a hot summer but in spring/autumn conditions it works great. Nothing worse for me than cold and soggy gloves
The one carbon fiber upgrade I'd say is really noticable is carbon heel guards. They offer a way better feel and the way they flex is way more linear than steel or aluminium
Nah... I have a carbon HJC full face touring helmet, which is fine and not very expensive. Super light, comfy and all. Also my Gore-tex jacket, overpants and mittens have served me well for years, day in day out, because they do the job of keeping water out as I commute daily in any kind of weather. I buy all my gear in sales, usually over winter, when they introduce the next gen and the old gen goes cheap.
Almost entire video feels like pointless ranting at more expensive stuff. Noone needs a Chinese grom if they can afford Klim jacket. They have expensive motorcycle, they want the best most comfortable gear money can buy. Dont see an issue there honestly
I personally have a Ruroc. I’ve been riding for years, and have had several helmets from multiple manufacturers. I personally love my Ruroc. I will admit I tried there coms system because it came with it when I bought the helmet as part of a sale. It was TRASH! I now have a packtalk on it. Love your content yammie. Opinions are like buttholes. We all have one!😂
Klim gear is worth every penny. They have jackets that are WAY under $1500. Like others have said, if you want to save even more buy clearance or display models. Klim's customer support is amazing. Lifetime warranty, basically if it CAN be repaired, they will repair it, if not they will work out a deal for a replacement. I've had a new pair of gloves sent as a replacement for something that couldn't be repaired, my wife had a 5 year old patch of velcro wear out that was replaced. I have a 6 year old jacket that has seen daily commuting in sun, rain and snow. Still keeps water out and isn't too hot in the humid southeast US summers.
One thing on klim, as I work in the industry and put my hands on many products every day, is the way klim treats customers. Klim has a 5 year garuntee on most products, to where if you end up using it in an accident and have a police report, they will repair or replace it. Yes, they may be priced higher, but they also do have some durable materials that hold up really well in accidents compared to revit,dainese, or alpinestars textile gear with similar ratings
I bought a Carbon fibre HJC RPHA 11, just because I love the look of it, the weight difference is negligible....but the Carbon has way more cool factor
I live in the tropics where when it's rainy season it's rainy season. we wear regular chinese made raincoats that are equivalent of $10 for the rubberized ones. Sure it's hot to wear them but man up, it's not like you're going to be stuck wearing them for hours. and if you are, you aren't supposed to be in a motorcycle to begin with.
A heads up display makes a lot of sense to me like I've seen a fair many of videos of a biker looking away for a millisecond. Then boom rear ends a car. Having your Speedo and gps on a heads up display makes sense. Am I wrong for thinking of that?
Okok bear with me, I got into motorcycles a few years ago and am about to get my motorcycle license. What are some good tips & tricks I should know about? What to always remember when driving?
I agree about how ALL waterproof/breathable membranes work to a degree. Unless the outer fabric has "wetted out" ("become filly saturated"), it still transpires (?) perspiration. And such membranes also are windproof which enhances comfort when the weather is cool or cold. I'll take the convenience and safety of my Aerostich R3 over any other textile gear available or the extreme inconvenience of carrying a rainsuit and having to stop to put it on and take it off as well as zero breathability (for most of what's available). Yes, when it's hot (90F+), nothing is particularly comfortable to wear but I'd rather have my skin intact then end up with major roadrash.
I just want to say, regarding gortex, I have lived in south vietnam for my entire moto life, and I've driven in massive rain storms every day 4 months a year, for 3 years straight. but I wouldn't use gortex, too expensive, and as you said, not breathable in hot/humid environments, which is south vietnam everyday,
I actually see a value in the heads-up display idea itself. For newer riders if they made it cheaper it would make it easier for newer riders to get into and learn the ropes without the need to take the eyes of the road. Plus a transparent map display is not the worst and makes it much easier to know when you must turn and you don't have to remove your eyes from the road. For newer riders it is valuable since it lets them learn balance and the other fundamentals of biking without having to remove as much attention from the road and therefore increases their awareness. Though you may see it as annoying others may see it as a potentially valuable concept because when you are riding situational awareness is incredibly valuable and it is best that new riders be given an option that lets them learn this without causing more risk to their lives than necessary, a rear facing camera on some also provides valuable information without you need to look at your mirrors. We are in a day and age where things must adapt to increase your safety and if they can make these helmets with good working heads-up displays and rear facing cameras that is something that needs to be invested in, simply cars are becoming bigger and faster, as well as more dangerous to bikers meaning the bikers need to get ahead of the curve and improve on safety and situational awareness.
i usually buy afx helmets, they cost like 120-200 eur, and they do their job. They dont have the extra comfy stuff in them usually, but they are made for what they are meant to do. I also usually buy from retails last season gear with 75% discount. I buy new pants for 100 eur, that are last year, than spend 400 eur for brand new, when there is no difference. Same with boots and so on. And its usually alpinestars i buy.
For the carbon fiber helmets most are a joke but I recently picked up a Scorpion EXO-R1 Carbon and GOD is it so much nicer than my RF-SR was- for roughly the same price. Half a pound lighter, noticeably quieter, the carbon fiber weave is stunning, and scorpion has like 5 sets of pads for the perfect fit, similar to arai's system, but for half the cost. AGV carbon helmets are definitely a scam, though. I tried the Pista GP RR Carbon and it was not lighter, more comfortable, or quieter than a regular K6. Honestly, it might have been worse.
Alpine star air bag vests might be high tech but wearing them under your jacket means you need a new larger jacket as well and forget about adding a camel pack or back pack this restricting the bag when it deploys possibly imploding and crushing you. And they have been known to go off if you get off your bike to quickly and they are fucken hot in the summer. Vented yeh right, vented onto the rubber liner
The SMILE on my face when ruroc was the first words out of your mouth. Biggest confirmed scam ever. Thank you yammie. Thank you.
I'm beginning to think Damon is going to win over Ruroc. At least Ruroc is putting a product out there...
NBT Clothing is close to the biggest but I think Ruroc takes the win
i know ruroc sucks. but I want one just for the looks
@@taylorv4what's wrong with nbt? I've seen a few "crash test" and they seem to hold up well.
I like the helmets
The ONLY riders I’ve ever seen wearing Ruroc helmets are content creators
Now that I think about it, you're right! I've never seen one in the wild...
My exs brother wears one. I gave him hell about it but he likes them.@
Someone had the boba fet one in my msf course, I’m pretty sure the face shield fell off when they dropped the bike at like 5
I’m a rider myself, and if I ever have anything in common or be associated in any way with the type of content creator riders that wear ruroc helmets, I’ll just stop being a rider
I know a guy who wears one when he rides highway. In town he's no gear, interferes with his style
If you do really want a Gortex top and bottom and don’t want to break the bank, go to your local military surplus store and look for their waterproof pants/jackets. You’ll spend a fraction of the price and it’s all made to be thrown on over whatever you’re already wearing, including boots. Hope this helps.
😂i do it
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@@lukebradshaw9608 Gold crayon comment 🥰
Ryan at Fort nine did a great video on Goretex. Look for it and you will never pay the premium for goretex again.
I will take every ounce off my 65 year old neck that I can. Carbon fiber is a plus for me.
I said the same. I weld for a living so I'm wearing a helmet 8 hours a day
I feel nothing better than an Arai. Even lighter helmets don't feel lighter, because usually they are bulkier.
51 here, years of neck issues, carbine fiber on my last two lids, worth it!
@@lees907bet an Arai feels better
Yep. I’ve got arthritis in my neck and herniated discs. It’s miserable. The lighter the helmet the better.
Gore-Tex 'How often are people ridding in torrential down pours?' Clear Yammie hasn't been to the UK recently!!
He lives in texas, dude havent seen rain since birth
The point was that wearing rain gear when it’s not raining isn’t comfortable. You’re better off with season appropriate dry gear and a more basic rain suit you put on when it’s raining and you tuck away when it’s not.
Yeah that’s not exactly true depending on where in Texas you are. Anywhere on the golf coast is real hot and also real humid six months a year. The worst case scenario for wearing rain gear around all the time “just in case”
Michigan here, rains often. Anything with a solid membrane doesn't let wind in either
Or lives year round in the Pacific Northwest, where it rains for nearly 6 months straight, every year.
Both my carbon helmets weigh very little. I weld for a living so I have to wear a helmet 8 hours a day at work. Hurts with my neck if helmets are too heavy. I have a full face for the cold and a dirt helmet for the summer. FXR dirt helmet is insanely light. Those couple pounds matter to some of us
Smiled when this started with Ruroc
What you said about the tether not pulling is a very good reason to consider a wireless system but having to pay a subscription fee for your life saving equipment will ALWAYS be a scam.
What? Wait a minute? You have to pay a subscription fee in order to have the kit actually work? If so, that's some sort of utterly fucked up.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Yup. Get your wallet stolen, cancel your cards, and get your airbag system shut off as you crash your bike on the way home. Rough day.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 There's an airbag made by Klim that has a very discounted upfront cost, but requires a subscription. Most airbags are pay once, ride forever. Though you do have to maintain them by keeping them charged or clipping in every time you ride. Electronic airbags also have to be factory serviced after a crash, vs. tethered airbags which can be serviced by the end user and typically use cheaper gas mixes.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 - there are no subscription fees on my D-air gear. Anyone paying a fee got bent over and done dry.
YN is totally wrong about that. It's quite hard to falsely deploy a tethered airbag. It's more likely an electronic one will falsely deploy.
Fortnine did an entire video on Gore Tex, and it's worth a watch.
PFAS, forever chemicals.
aero just looks soo fricking coool tho
Cool looks are not going to save you in an accident.
@@toportime But the thing is that it doesnt hurt
@@CallMeAstroit does
@toportime that's like the dumbest thing you could've said 😂 if you get a helmet from a reputable brand, might as well get the one that looks better.
@@OfficiallySweaty.....how?
Talking about helmet aero… if you’ve got a huge chunk of plastic hanging off the chin of it, you don’t care about helmet aero.
On a trip in Canada in September the Temps changed from 25C and sunny to 1C and rain. Hard rain. I did 2 consecutive 700 km days In 1 degree and rain. My Klim riding suit kept me warm and dry. On hot days I open all the vents and the air flows through like I'm not wearing anything. If you're actually doing some miles you are going to ride through scattered showers. Not having to stop to put on rain gear is a big plus. And let's not forget the magic foam padding in all the critical areas that stays soft and squishy until it takes an impact and the kevlar panels in case of a slide. The colours match my bike perfectly as well. Love My Klim gear. Worth every penny
I was going post almost exactly the same response. FYI Yammie, there are actually some ADV riders that do multiple 1000km days (620 miles so you don't need to do the math) back to back and don't stop for weather. Putting on and taking off a garbage bag rain suits sucks when it rains intermittently all day. I ride in northern Quebec in areas where I need to carry a satellite communicator. Help could be a long way off in the event of a crash so like the original poster, I love my Klim Badlands for the top spec safety and don't regret paying for it.
All I'm gonna say is the ruroc diablo helmet saved my life as I crashed at 60mph smacking my helmet and doing 5 or 6 barrel rolls across the highway, I made a Facebook post on the ruroc Facebook page and they sent me a brand new helmet for free! I'd probably be dead or in a coma if I didn't have a helmet on during that wreck. Do ur own research tho but that was my experience with ruroc
Okay but arai/agv/hjc... will do the job better.
3:20 As a wrestlers, those neck exercises, also known as neck bridges, are your bread and butter, and they are fun too!!!
So I work for a race team sponsored by Ruroc and our rider went down twice this season both times in a Ruroc. Still to his head in one piece undamaged. Take that for what you will but its enough for me as the mechanic to wear a ruroc in my personal life.
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Yeah it’s a trend to dislike rurocs, people refuse to look at the facts. ece 22.03 is not easy to get
They’re just overpriced for what they are
yeah, they were kind shitty and sketchy, but the new ones are really comfortable and look sick. They came in strong and people forget that the fisrt couple of itterations of new product will have flaws. i have the 3.0 and 4.0 and both still feel great. they are a bit expensive but it looks like they only say that with ruroc and not other brands?
Only thing i disagree with is specifically the HUD with the Ray-Bans or BMW ConnectedRide sunglasses, as they can both be used outside of just motorcycles. Aside from that, agreed on all fronts
I was with him all the way up to HUDs. Honestly, it felt a little "old man yells at cloud" 😅 surprising he can't see the safety benefits of only moving your eyes and being able to stay aware of directional info, calls & media, even rear view. I think it's inarguable your reaction time would be quicker than lifting/turning your head 🤷🏿♂️
Mostly agree, except about the high-quality helmets bit. The point of Aero design is not to squeeze out an extra mph, but to reduce wind resistance and buffeting on your head, which reduces the strain on your neck, just like the reduced weight of carbon fibre helmets does. In combination that does make a difference over the course of a full day of riding, let alone longer tours. And another note on rain gear -- while I personally prefer an outer-layer solution to slip on, a buddy of mine prefers waterproof gear because he says the probability of getting rained on during a multi-day trip is 1 and he hates stopping to dress up and undress. So it's simply a matter of personal preference.
My Joe Rocket Atomic keeps me cool in the summer, warm in the winter, dry in the rare rain ride, and roadrash free when I low sided. Got mine for $140 and I'm still wearing it.
THANKS for the honest opinion on ruroc. I was always drawn to those and multiple times I was close to click the BUY button... but for some reason I always chose HJC or SHOEI
Have you ever owned a ruroc?....... I have, twice. The first one actually saved my life and the ONLY ONE issue I had with the helmets was that on occasion, very rarely, the connection for the Bluetooth with other riders sometimes lagged out. None the less sound was great, padding was great, 9/10 times id be using the Bluetooth personally just for music which always worked without a problem.
Gore-tex only works well with snowmobile gear.
A high end Tobe onesie with goretex costs around $800 (without the liner, but you can just wear a sweatshirt underneath if your being cheap) and nice goretex Klim gloves are about $130 and are a godsend.
So I'm a mostly fairweather rider, but I've got a set of "Moto Line" one piece waterproofs I bought in the late 90s, and they still work fine!
I was in an hour long heavy downpour recently and was still dry underneath. That's what I call value for money.
Under $1000 for all the recommended beginner gear in your description is amazing to me. I was thinking it would be more like $3000+. Time for me to get off instagram and actually learn things. Thank you for educating me.
Accidental deployment of tethered vests is low because there’s a measure of force required to deploy. But that leads to your other criticism that there are crash scenarios where it won’t deploy when you need it
There are also scenarios where electronuc vests don't always deploy, like, funny enough, some lowsides. For example, I've seen several reports of Alpinestars TA vests not deploying during lowsides. A-stars has been updating its algorithm to address issues like that but they are not foolproof by any means. Electronic vests also seem to still be more likely to falsely deploy.
Check the fine print on the e-vests. One major maker of the electronics for several brand-name vests seems to say that users should only expect the vest to deploy in ~75% of crashes. Not foolproof at all.
The good news is that all airbag vests, no matter the type, are worth having if you can afford one. And both have trade-offs. E-vests should deploy faster but are subject to potentially more failure ponts--plus most are still not user serviceable and are expensive to maintain. Tethered vests won't deploy as quickly and, theoretically, in as many situations, but are arguably more reliable for the big crashes (if set up properly).
And despite what YN claims, tethered vests are actually quite difficult to falsely deploy. He really hasn't done his homework here.
@@ApexRadius Without extra sensors on the bike, usually attached to the forks, most electronic vests won't deploy when in a stationary accident e.g. rear ending at a junction. The Helite tethered vests are also one of the cheapest to recharge with air, and can be reused immediately (although recommended that they are inspected after an accident) if you have the allen key and a spare compressed air canister which are like $35.
I got the Helite Vented airbag jacket which can be used year round since it has a waterproof/windproof liner; £685/$939 to get two bits of kit in one. It does get a little warm around 30 Celcius but in the UK it generally doesn't get warmer than that often. Having my personal safety dependant on a subscription for the vest to function is a big disincentive for me, what is the long term support like and what if the manufacturer decides to change it's pricing.
If they made some sort of hybrid system that was both physically tethered, and used some other way of determining the bikes speed, e.g. wheel sensor, for electronic deployment, which didn't require a subscription and was easy to service, I would be up for one.
@@ApexRadius good info.
Correct, electronic vests have their issues as well. A lot of these vests rely for instance on gps. No gps signal means no deployment. Also the vests get primed after traveling a certain amount of distance or time. Meaning you jump on your bike, drive off, and instantly crash equals no deployment.
In the end, riding with an airbag vest is good. Tethered or electronic. Both have their pro and cons.
@@Bordpie Yes, for sure. The Helite e-Turtle requires the optional fork sensor ($158 US) to detect very slow speed or stationary crashes, like rear-enders. It's also supposed to improve overall crash detection. Some of the other e-airbags will only deploy at something like 10-15 mph. The manufacturers are always improving the electronic systems--I seem to recall that A-stars has now included stationary crashes in its algorithm, but I might be mistaken--but they still have limitations.
I've seen a lot of reports for years that various brand electronic systems didn't deploy during some lowsides, including the aforementioned A-stars TA, and even some lowsides that included tumbling. A tethered system would probably fair better with tumbling following a lowside. (But I'm personally a little less concerned with lowsides than the bigger crashes.)
Creating an electronic system for street riding is more difficult than for racing/track applications. It has to account for more factors and nuance than in the more predictable and controlled track environment. For instance, you're not likely to smash into a pothole on a race track, so the system doesn't have to figure out if that kind of impact is a crash or not. And stationary rear-enders are really unlikely on track, so it doesn't really have to account for them.
Another factor: Many electronic systems must be worn under gear (like the AS TA-5), which means that you might have to buy new (bigger) outer gear that allows enough room for deployment. Tethered vests/harnesses are usually worn over a jacket or suit and might even be a little more comfortable in hotter conditions.
I have the latest Hit-Air (made in Japan) tethered harness that's the same concept as the Helite tethered vests. I think they're the oldest manufacturer of moto airbags and they're well made. They also make the Spidi-branded airbag. I chose it over the Helite simply because it's a more open design that flows a bit more air and it's easier to wear over a suit or jacket with a race hump. I would be happy to have an electronic one, too, but for primarily street riding, the tethered system made a little more sense for me. But I realize that it won't be perfect, either.
I have also thought about a dual-trigger system that uses an optional tether as a backup but it seems like it would be very complicated to make work, would be quite expensive, and might not be worth it in the end.
I've crashed with a Tech Air 5 vest. They work and can be re-charged easily. Great video, I agree with all of your comments. Thanks for doing these!
I agree with all your talking points. You seem like you're just getting more practical as you get older and wiser! Cheers, Buddy
I have a Klim Carlsbad jacket, which us laminated Gore-Tex, and recently bought a pair of Alpinestars RT-8 GTX boots. I use them for commuting and work, and love them. Weather is unpredictable, most of the time it rains, some days don't. I would feel more discomfort carrying a whole set of rain gear all the time. I plan on buying a mesh jacket when summer hits, boots are great in hot and cold weather, wear them all day until I get home.
I've settled on Arai helmets, they're the most comfortable fit for me by far. Had Shoei and 2x AGV's in the past, but both gave me headaches on long rides.
Not all Arai's are super expensive, but they're always good quality and reasonably quiet. Never heard of Ruroc but they look gimmicky ... and for kids.
I have one of the expensive Klim jackets. It was expensive even when it was on sale. But it's honestly been one of the best motorcycle jackets I've ever had for both ergonomics and not being too hot while also providing good rain protection. When you ride your motorcycle to work it's nice to not show up super sweaty. They're also good jackets when the temperature in the morning is low 50's and the ride home is sunny and low 80's. Plus it's pockets are great. It's also very comfortable for when I ride the bike somewhere and then have to walk around. I've spent more money buying many cheaper jackets before I bought the Klim, but none of them did pretty much everything I wanted.
Thank you from saving me from a huge pricy mistake! I was considering them next, dodged a road shaped bullet there!
7:30 and that's why I kept both of mine from the Navy (my original and after they changed the uniforms) when I go on a long ride I wear my armored Harley hoodie (waterproof and abrasion resistant) regardless of the weather. for shorter rides I roll my issued gortex and throw it in my saddle bag so if it starts raining I can pull over and throw it on.
10:10 Pffff right, why even having rear cameras on cars if you can just use your 3 mirrors. They make no sense at all……..silly engineering.
I'd rather have the rear view camera on the bike. But I agree. Why is it bad to have a centered rear view? It's not.
@@patrickwharton5042 Helmets with heads-up displays and rear cameras are actually pretty cool. The key advantage is that you don’t have to look down at your phone, which is the actual source of distraction.
i agree with most of what your saying bar 2 things, best heads up display helmet i have seen and used is the Australian built Forcite helmet, instead of a map, it uses lights to inform you of turns and hazards. also has a very good built in camera. 2nd is the tethered airbag vest, i have nether set mine off by forgetting it connectected. the slow pull ,lets you know and isn't the sharp pull that coming off the bike generates. and if you follow motogp, you have seen the accelerometers one's deploy without been in a crash.
Guilty on 2 fronts: Klim and Gore-Tex. There are alternatives out there, but as a long distance touring rider who rides through weather extremes, and lots of trial and error, I have come to rely on both and they do well every time.
Hey, I agree with 90% of your vid but... there was a great HUD company NUVIZ that I found REALLY great. Shame they failed but the HUD unit I have was really cool and SAVED me on my first US motocycle trip. I understand your ideas in this vid but I actually liked helmut hud idea.
#2 if you ride a naked bike like me, it is important to have a helmet, that stays steady in the wind. Had my Shoei GTR 2 stolen, so I needed a new helmet. I tested around 6 helmets and there are still bad ones in the ~400€ range. Ended up buying a Scorpion Exo R1 in onyx black (forged carbon style).
As an ADV guy, my sub 200 dollar Sedici jacket is top tier. Cooler than my perforated leather jacket, waterproof, hella pockets even one for a hydration bladder, armor, good protection rating. But I am looking at getting the Klim Krios Pro helmet so ya got me there 😭
My carbon fiber Ruroc helmet actually relieves much of neck stress I got from my previous Agv K1. Agv makes full carbon fiber helmets but the price is double. I am not into the superhero thing but the Ruroc helmet looks like pretty solid and well-made. All liner and cushioning materials are in a pretty good quality. The customer service seems to be even better than Agv or Shoei. The visor seal got loose and flew off on highway one day and I emailed Ruroc. They immediately mailed me a new one with their branded T-shirt for free. 😂
When I was active duty in the USMC, I loved our Gore-Tex rain gear, but it was only used when it was raining.
I've had ruroc for the last 4 years, no issues
I really thought you were just another one of the many content creators out there until this video. Thank you for calling out Ruroc for the garbage that they are. I work at a motorcycle shop and some of the employees HERE wear them. I’ll never understand.
Top notch video!
Rurok is pretty decent for snowboarding but that's my only justification for it since we all grew up in aspen before helmets were really a big thing
So you're a good weather biker? Goretex or Thinsulate or whatever is also the best windbreaker. Maybe you don't need it because your airbagpack functions as a bodywarmer as well. But when it realy gets cold-does your innerjacket still fit, if you wear that?
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Never heard of Ruroc. I wear a 1966 open face helmet. Don't know the brand. Rain gear? I use it. Ride w lot in northeast US. In early spring rain and snow is common. I have a rain Jacket from Cycle Gear (about $30) and it keeps me dry. It also is 100 percent windproof and keeps me warm. Many years ago I wore a Belstaff waxed cotton jacket. Worked well for many years. I wore Gore-Tex parkas for skiing for many years. Not waterproof and not very breathable. On a motorcycle you are not very active. Waterproof (urethane coated) works just fine.
i'm perfectly fine with an hjc rpha-1. ece 22.06 and FIM folded into the largely ridiculously named FRHPhe-01 cert. it does the business. and they're on sale every so often, so if you're patient you can get them for a reasonable price. retail is ~700ish us. which is on par with most good lids. basic black or white, or any one of a variety of eye watering graphic options.
I buy a helmet every few years when I return to Japan.
You can buy a Japanese carbon fiber helmet for around $350.
Of course, you can also buy Shoei and Arai helmets at low prices.
The big gear stores are often far from the train stations, but you can usually get there by bus.
If you are planning to visit Japan, why don't you go there?
Nothing is more alluring to a new young rider than a ruroc helmet. I almost got one when I first started but thankfully I didn’t
My biggest concern with airbag vests or suits is the ability to refill them your self. Some you have to send into the manufacturer after every crash. My Helite, which happens to be tethered, saved me in my first race of the day. It was an almost high side that bucked me off the inside of the bike. I was able to stick a new canister in there and ride the next race and hour later.
I’ve had several helmets including Ruroc Atlas 4. I’ll never pay the premium prices for helmets that Yammy recommends. Realistically I’m not racing, I’m just a daily rider. The Ruroc is great. Very comfortable and ECE rated. You can’t fake ECE. Also, they look freaking cool.
My rain gear i bought at walmart for 20 bucks...simple rain west n pans...100 water proof
Many good points, but if you live in Norway, 3 layer Goretex, are a lifesaving technology, because weather and temperature can change in minutes. I just love it.
That airbag vest is awesome! Gotta get me one of those. I currently wear the Icon compression shirt and 3/4 compression pants that have the impact zones covered with D3O and Kevlar, but the vest looks like it provides ultimate protection for upper body.
Yammie didnt even say hi, brother went straight to business with Ruroc
8:49 try coming to the UK and saying that it switches from nice warm weather to a hurricane so quick
have you heard of cars ?
Alpinestars is awesome. Their gear has (un)fortunately saved me more than once.
I just got a carbon fiber helmet.
And I did pay double the price in it than a multi compound, but I did it cause I want the double D. And if I want to go to the track, they only accept double Ds... so, its just a matter of looking what suites you needs and also preferences not trends or youtubers.
Gore tex is a compromise, as everything is, but it is really impressive to this day. I still use my 1991 us army issue jacket regularly, and it still works great. It has remained waterproof, but not unbearably hot when it's dry out when hiking. To be fair, it has extensive venting, that can be closed by rugged zippers when it starts to rain. For an older guy like myself, goretex still remains a selling point.
I think you’re wrong about the HUD concept.
If done properly, it can be a great accessory.
Connect it to the blind spot radar, the dash to see warning lights, nav etc. and it can be a very useful tool.
Yes of course you can do without, but we've been riding without ABS or TC or many other tech that are now standard and we were fine, only now we do better.
Reference airbags. I have the Dainese vest. Over 28C you will melt from the heat, 0 ventilation. My friend has the same airbag vest like you, lives in Spain. In the summer he never uses the airbag, just to hot. Reference KLIM - 50% off in the sale for Baja s4 jacket, NEVER pay full price.
ngl kinda want a sub $1000 helmet with rear view camera so I can delete my stock mirrors on bikes that don't adapt well to bar end mirrors
Only issue is that you move.
You would be better off installing a camera and running a mini monitor on the bars
That is do able for less than 1000.
@@jamesmicheal8736 Not a bad idea, just wish I had more space on the bars/clip on. Maybe the future is having rear cameras built into the tail of the bike from factory, then you can pair it with a HUD in whatever helmet supports it. Would certainly make the helmets cheaper. This might be against regulations though
I've got a little 2" rear view camera system on my bike that I use the heck out of. It doesn't replace mirrors, but it's good enough to tell me when I have someone on my tail. My actual mirrors are a pair of Kemimoto "bar end" mirrors mounted inboard of my switch assemblies and pointing under my arms. Not quite as good as sport bike mirrors, but better than having mirrors at the ends of my bars when I'm partly tucked forward.
just shoulder check
hey one of those helmets was the HJC RPHA 11 when talking about the ruroc
Thanks for teaching me about Ruroc - a helmet brand I've never heard of and would have never looked into buying, lol
I personally dont care about aero functionality i prefer the look of it itself same for carbon fiber but hey 🤷♂️ also love the video keep up the good work n safe riding👍
Gore tex is the standard for a reason. Skiers/Boarders, Hikers, Mountaineers, etc. all love it. I clock 50+ days skiing every season and know I'm getting reasonable water proofing when gore tex is there.
That being said - I definitely do not ride my motorcycle in the rain enough to care about waterproofing.
If you're one of the psychopaths that do, you should know that every season you should apply new waterproofing.
Carbon helmet is definitely worth it. It shaved 200 grams off of the helmet. I used a normal Scorpion Exo-Tech, then bought a carbon one which did definitely feel slightly lighter. After that I bought an Evo-1400 carbon, which is even lighter. It makes a huge difference to comfort for me, especially on longer rides. Bonus point: It looks sick.
Sidenote: The carbon version of my helmet was not even €100 more expensive. It's a 350 euro helmet, which is not that expensive for the quality that Scorpion delivers.
The nice thing about Klim is North American sizing. Euro brands tend to run a bit small, even with glove sizes. For a good alternative to Klim, have a look at MSR gear. It's available at Rocky Mountain ATV. It's Klim quality at 1/2 - 2/3 the price.
Nice list. Low key enjoying the "get off my lawn" yammie noob 😂
I’ve recently had my little intro into biking. My great grandpa had this old 1969 bsa 650 lightning imported new. The damn thing hasn’t seen the road since 1974 and went through a house fire about 5 years ago. I was surprised when all I had to do was replace the tires, rebuild the carbs, and replace all the fluids and now the thing runs and drives. Took me 12 days to clean off all the ash by hand, no pressure washer to be seen, and actually get it to run which most of that was me waiting for parts. Pretty damn easy to work on except it was designed by the British so there’s a lot of quirks with it. Like the carbs can only be taken off and put back on if you go thread by thread on both nuts at the same time. Kind of weird. Or the fact that there are two manuals for it and both are for like 6 different years of bikes and don’t actually correspond to the bike I have. Or the fact you put oil in the oil tank and a check valve feeds oil to the crank but only when the bike is running so after an oil change you have to run the bike with no oil until it decides to put some in it. Or the fact the brakes are apart of the wheel so if you want to change those out you have to take off the wheel. I mean some of that might just be all bikes but seriously weird coming from a car background.
The thing with most electronic vests are they’re not designed to be recharged by the end-user and must be sent in. I guess alpinestars are going in the right direction with their adventure spec’d airbags
I got a Nolan N60-6 cause they fit me better than every other helmet I tried and it fit the budget. it's approved for use on tracks in the UK, looks cool enough, comfortable, glasses/sunglasses friendly and I can't feel my headphones under the helmet so I can comfortable listen to music
I have an Arai Quantic and switched to an AGV Corsa R (same shell as a Pista). The difference in aero was massive. The Arai would get battered around in the wind it was annoying as hell. The Corsa slices through the air like butter it’s a fantastic helmet. Only issue is it’s discontinued so when I want to replace it I’ll have to get a Pista and I don’t want to pay for a Pista 😂
headsup display..well... in a new city you never have been in before,it can definitly be usefull, not needing to look down to follow the gps - but on another hand, i have my gps connected to my scala-system,so i can hear the directions, gore-tex, yup..i cant live whitout it, here the weather changes very fast, so a sunny and nice morning for a ride usually ends up in a soaking wet arrival home in the afternoon
One disagreement. The Klim Hardanger One Piece Suit is a good deal. Its one-piece design is both safe and very comfortable for long tours. Its many zippered slits adjust it to a wide range of temperatures. It even has a long zippered slit that enables you to take it off without needing to climb out. Waterproof and super high quality. Great design.
It lists for $1600, but I got mine at discount for less than $1300. Oh, Klim also provides insurance on it in case of crash. They send you a brand new one. Ask me how I know.
Almost bought a Ruroc.
Ended up buying a Suomy Track 1.
Best decision ever.
Hi Yammie, i do think Gore-Tex is useful for daily riders that live in a country where the weather is unpredictable like UK, but not necessarily the full gear.
I’ve always enjoyed my Kim jacket. Just buy them used or on sale when they’re at the end of a generation. Quality is a lot better than my older jackets for sure, and people who have crash tested them seem happy.
Id love to have a GPS heads up display. Riding in the city not having to look down would be awesome. Keep my phone out of the desert sun would also be nice.
damn, Yams went in on Ruroc like they were Kawasaki, and we all know how much Yammie hates kawasaki!
Imagine Yammie riding a Versys, with a Ruroc helmet and Klim gear. HAHAHAHAHAHA
So close! He actually made a video about three months ago, starting specifically with how he doesn’t hate Kawasaki
I hate kawasaki, it's the broke man brand to go to
@@Slycarlo Green aura with flies
@@Slycarlo 😂 guess some1 lost to a kawi
Imo gore-tex is worth it mostly in gloves. Not in the middle of a hot summer but in spring/autumn conditions it works great. Nothing worse for me than cold and soggy gloves
The one carbon fiber upgrade I'd say is really noticable is carbon heel guards. They offer a way better feel and the way they flex is way more linear than steel or aluminium
Nah... I have a carbon HJC full face touring helmet, which is fine and not very expensive. Super light, comfy and all. Also my Gore-tex jacket, overpants and mittens have served me well for years, day in day out, because they do the job of keeping water out as I commute daily in any kind of weather.
I buy all my gear in sales, usually over winter, when they introduce the next gen and the old gen goes cheap.
I'm not sure how you typed 78 words and managed to misspell water?
@@toportime Yeah. It’s a real mystery, isn’t it? 25 minutes have passed since you wrote this insightful reply. Did you come to any conclusion?
Carbon HJC F-70 here with ya bud. You should try carbon dirt helmet for the hot weather. My FXR weighs nothing
Almost entire video feels like pointless ranting at more expensive stuff. Noone needs a Chinese grom if they can afford Klim jacket. They have expensive motorcycle, they want the best most comfortable gear money can buy. Dont see an issue there honestly
I personally have a Ruroc. I’ve been riding for years, and have had several helmets from multiple manufacturers. I personally love my Ruroc. I will admit I tried there coms system because it came with it when I bought the helmet as part of a sale. It was TRASH! I now have a packtalk on it. Love your content yammie. Opinions are like buttholes. We all have one!😂
Klim gear is worth every penny. They have jackets that are WAY under $1500. Like others have said, if you want to save even more buy clearance or display models. Klim's customer support is amazing. Lifetime warranty, basically if it CAN be repaired, they will repair it, if not they will work out a deal for a replacement. I've had a new pair of gloves sent as a replacement for something that couldn't be repaired, my wife had a 5 year old patch of velcro wear out that was replaced. I have a 6 year old jacket that has seen daily commuting in sun, rain and snow. Still keeps water out and isn't too hot in the humid southeast US summers.
One thing on klim, as I work in the industry and put my hands on many products every day, is the way klim treats customers. Klim has a 5 year garuntee on most products, to where if you end up using it in an accident and have a police report, they will repair or replace it. Yes, they may be priced higher, but they also do have some durable materials that hold up really well in accidents compared to revit,dainese, or alpinestars textile gear with similar ratings
I bought a Carbon fibre HJC RPHA 11, just because I love the look of it, the weight difference is negligible....but the Carbon has way more cool factor
the nice thing about Klim is the warranty, LVS you can pretty much send it back and get new gear
I live in the tropics where when it's rainy season it's rainy season. we wear regular chinese made raincoats that are equivalent of $10 for the rubberized ones. Sure it's hot to wear them but man up, it's not like you're going to be stuck wearing them for hours. and if you are, you aren't supposed to be in a motorcycle to begin with.
A heads up display makes a lot of sense to me like I've seen a fair many of videos of a biker looking away for a millisecond. Then boom rear ends a car. Having your Speedo and gps on a heads up display makes sense. Am I wrong for thinking of that?
Never used a heads up display but it actually doesn't sound bad. I'd give it a try.
Okok bear with me, I got into motorcycles a few years ago and am about to get my motorcycle license.
What are some good tips & tricks I should know about?
What to always remember when driving?
I agree about how ALL waterproof/breathable membranes work to a degree. Unless the outer fabric has "wetted out" ("become filly saturated"), it still transpires (?) perspiration. And such membranes also are windproof which enhances comfort when the weather is cool or cold. I'll take the convenience and safety of my Aerostich R3 over any other textile gear available or the extreme inconvenience of carrying a rainsuit and having to stop to put it on and take it off as well as zero breathability (for most of what's available). Yes, when it's hot (90F+), nothing is particularly comfortable to wear but I'd rather have my skin intact then end up with major roadrash.
I just want to say, regarding gortex, I have lived in south vietnam for my entire moto life, and I've driven in massive rain storms every day 4 months a year, for 3 years straight. but I wouldn't use gortex, too expensive, and as you said, not breathable in hot/humid environments, which is south vietnam everyday,
I actually see a value in the heads-up display idea itself. For newer riders if they made it cheaper it would make it easier for newer riders to get into and learn the ropes without the need to take the eyes of the road. Plus a transparent map display is not the worst and makes it much easier to know when you must turn and you don't have to remove your eyes from the road. For newer riders it is valuable since it lets them learn balance and the other fundamentals of biking without having to remove as much attention from the road and therefore increases their awareness. Though you may see it as annoying others may see it as a potentially valuable concept because when you are riding situational awareness is incredibly valuable and it is best that new riders be given an option that lets them learn this without causing more risk to their lives than necessary, a rear facing camera on some also provides valuable information without you need to look at your mirrors. We are in a day and age where things must adapt to increase your safety and if they can make these helmets with good working heads-up displays and rear facing cameras that is something that needs to be invested in, simply cars are becoming bigger and faster, as well as more dangerous to bikers meaning the bikers need to get ahead of the curve and improve on safety and situational awareness.
My Axor apex is just fine for me riding both track and daily use, ece 22.06,dot, isi certified❤
I didn't NEED the aero of the AGV, but it does buffet way less than my old Scorpion and lets me turn my head at highway speeds without getting rocked.
Everything u said was 100 percent true ...good video ...new riders or experienced riders waste too much money when they could just be having fun
i usually buy afx helmets, they cost like 120-200 eur, and they do their job. They dont have the extra comfy stuff in them usually, but they are made for what they are meant to do. I also usually buy from retails last season gear with 75% discount. I buy new pants for 100 eur, that are last year, than spend 400 eur for brand new, when there is no difference. Same with boots and so on. And its usually alpinestars i buy.
For the carbon fiber helmets most are a joke but I recently picked up a Scorpion EXO-R1 Carbon and GOD is it so much nicer than my RF-SR was- for roughly the same price. Half a pound lighter, noticeably quieter, the carbon fiber weave is stunning, and scorpion has like 5 sets of pads for the perfect fit, similar to arai's system, but for half the cost. AGV carbon helmets are definitely a scam, though. I tried the Pista GP RR Carbon and it was not lighter, more comfortable, or quieter than a regular K6. Honestly, it might have been worse.
The heads up display is not to bad considering my zx14 has nowhere to mount a phone I'd like the heads up display
Alpine star air bag vests might be high tech but wearing them under your jacket means you need a new larger jacket as well and forget about adding a camel pack or back pack this restricting the bag when it deploys possibly imploding and crushing you. And they have been known to go off if you get off your bike to quickly and they are fucken hot in the summer. Vented yeh right, vented onto the rubber liner