7 Reasons Cruiser Riders and Sport Bike Riders don’t get along

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  • @crevieauxquentin9657
    @crevieauxquentin9657 3 місяці тому +626

    Fun thing here in europe, we don't give a sh** about the difference between bikers. I have a cruiser and a sport bike both in the same garage and that's how it should be. Ride what you enjoy and that's all

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому +18

      We??? Talk for yourself bud

    • @polloman15
      @polloman15 3 місяці тому +16

      I’m from Mexico and we have the same mindset, the friends that I have that have more than 1 bike have multiple styles. Something like a Kawasaki Vulcan and a BMW K1200, a Suzuki Boulevard and a KLR 650, a Honda Shadow and a CBR, a Boulevard and a Yamaha R1. I used to have a Suzuki V-strom and a Yamaha V-Star in the same garage too.

    • @EggEnjoyer
      @EggEnjoyer 3 місяці тому +20

      How come Europeans talk about Europe as though it isn’t a continent with a bunch of different countries and cultures?

    • @AnthosKlox
      @AnthosKlox 3 місяці тому +4

      Now that is what they call planning ahead.
      I also love the different facets of biking and even would like to own a small adventure bike as an off road bike and maybe even a bike with a sidecar. Not that I can afford it (yet) but there is nothing wrong with having dreams and goals.

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому

      @@EggEnjoyer That's the result of intensive indoctrination and formatting by the EUSSR collectivist marxists. Some of us haven't been polluted though.

  • @waynegoldpig2220
    @waynegoldpig2220 3 місяці тому +238

    I'm 52 years old, and I have both a Harley XR1200 and a 1998 Honda Fireblade.

    • @kentalanlee
      @kentalanlee 3 місяці тому +7

      You understand. 🍺

    • @hiroshimanumbertwoofficial7181
      @hiroshimanumbertwoofficial7181 3 місяці тому +8

      straight gigga chad moment, hell yeah brother

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому +1

      @@hiroshimanumbertwoofficial7181 Straight??? Can't be if one owns a harley fergusson

    • @LordoftheAliens
      @LordoftheAliens 3 місяці тому +4

      One of the least Harley Harleys lol It's a great bike.

    • @Spencerianism
      @Spencerianism 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm 52 and own a harley 2021 iron XL 1200 and a triumph scrambler 400 X
      Love em both.

  • @justjoeable
    @justjoeable 3 місяці тому +256

    meanwhile naked and ADV bike riders, enjoying the best of both, confused by both cruiser and sport bikers

    • @donsalizar4037
      @donsalizar4037 3 місяці тому +3

      Livin that life

    • @ononto_g
      @ononto_g 3 місяці тому +19

      As a naked bike owner I can confirm it's true.
      Sometimes I just wanna chill and enjoy the roads and it allows me to do that.
      Sometimes I just wanna go a bit crazy and it allows me to do that too.
      Not to mention it does that while giving you both comfort + the thrill and fun.

    • @mrob456
      @mrob456 3 місяці тому +3

      A cruiser ride over here not even thinking about you adv riders.

    • @TheJmatagi
      @TheJmatagi 3 місяці тому +3

      The adv makes the least sense very tall and heavy for city, highway, and heavy for dirt. You will never see a motocross rider use an adventure bike, they are too heavy. Just trailer a dirt bike to the trail.

    • @SchMasHed
      @SchMasHed 3 місяці тому +2

      Chillin on the highway, certified Squid in the streets

  • @Motomonk420
    @Motomonk420 3 місяці тому +34

    Can’t we all just hate on the oblivious motorist in cars and get along

  • @jeremiahreynolds8088
    @jeremiahreynolds8088 3 місяці тому +118

    I’m a cruiser boy, I have a stock exhaust. I ride for cheap gas. Literally will ride any time of year, rain or shine. For the past year and some change, I’ve ridden probably every day. Maybe have taken my truck 20 days out of the 365. It’s my everything. I’ll hit twisties, I’ll go on the interstate. Whatever it is

    • @NareshReg
      @NareshReg 3 місяці тому +3

      Same. I have Vulcan S 650. Ride it everyday for commute, even during snowing winter in NY. Occasional fun ride with few friends. Cheap on gas, can park anywhere for free. And I pay insurance like 8 dollars per month, compared to 180 for my SUV. I get 60 mpg compared to 20 mpg on my suv. Convenient, Cheaper and more fun.

    • @AlekseiMoskalenko-m1k
      @AlekseiMoskalenko-m1k 3 місяці тому +4

      Cruisers suck on twisties. I've ridden two motorcycles: Honda Shadow 750 and V-Star 950. They both have really shitty brakes, they're heavy, which makes the brakes heat up even faster, and the footpegs are very low. These bikes really only have one use - to ride at 90 km/h on the highway or on twisties with very wide turns. Objectively, this type of bike sucks in everything except style and sound. In terms of feel, no other motorcycle will give you such smoothness and inertia. If you need a utilitarian bike, get an adventure bike, even one that's more asphalt-oriented, like the Versus 650. It weighs less, handles better in turns, accelerates faster, is more comfortable due to the suspension travel, has advanced wind protection, not just the windscreen but all the fairings as well. I won't even mention using it in the city; sitting high, having a large steering wheel angle and low weight is the best thing that can be in traffic jams when you have to squeeze through.

    • @MrEiniweini
      @MrEiniweini 3 місяці тому +4

      @@AlekseiMoskalenko-m1k What are you doing on a bike mate? You don't come across as enjoying them. I have never met a rider that just dissed the bikes he owned like you did there. Drive a car due. It will take a weight off your mind.

    • @AlekseiMoskalenko-m1k
      @AlekseiMoskalenko-m1k 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MrEiniweini Bro I didn't own them it was just a rental. I actually enjoy my bike it's just not a cruiser.

    • @plap.
      @plap. 2 місяці тому

      @@jeremiahreynolds8088 I had only a bike for three years, my only vehicle. Did it on a Buell XB with a pillion bag and a back pack with lots of layers in the winter. Through rain, sleet, snow and heat. Still have that bike now with 80k miles on it. Also several others When I finally got a car the best thing was I didn't have to eat crushed bread anymore. You just can't fluff it up once flattened

  • @dalaymanzperzpektiv7742
    @dalaymanzperzpektiv7742 3 місяці тому +51

    Cant we all just get a long??? We bikers are a small minority in the bigger schism of drivers...we need to come together and unite as one...

    • @King_Sus
      @King_Sus Місяць тому +1

      Hell yeah dude

    • @WalterVetterli
      @WalterVetterli 2 дні тому

      I'd hate to be an adrenaline junkie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @WalterVetterli
      @WalterVetterli 2 дні тому

      It most likeley would have killed me by now!!!

  • @Wyflo
    @Wyflo 3 місяці тому +68

    i’m glad i haven’t ran into your typical “ Harley rider “ every cruiser i’ve been around have been welcoming and cool ass guys

    • @TwistedOnyx369
      @TwistedOnyx369 3 місяці тому +2

      Same. The Harley riders I've run across have been super cool. I like the way Harleys look so I always compliment their bikes and ask questions.

    • @disguisedpickle1360
      @disguisedpickle1360 2 місяці тому +3

      I have multiple times each time it seems worse. The first one I thought “ah forget that guy” by the 8th my mindset was “fuck Harley riders” it’s sad man but respects a 2 way street

    • @philipstaite4775
      @philipstaite4775 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TwistedOnyx369 Grin, I'm the flip side of that. I ride a HD Heritage Classic (bagger) yet at work there's an MT-09SP in the parking lot that is stunning. It wouldn't suit my style of riding, but it looks fantastic. HD riders get a lot of grief and a lot of stereo typing. Some deserved, much of it not. Yes, I'm a gray beard boomer. Yes I ride slow (compared to sport bikes). No I'm not a snob, I'll wave at anyone on two wheels. No I don't rev my engine at lights. I do rev match on downshifts - if you've ever ridden a HD and dealt with it's farm machinery like transmission you'll understand why...

    • @teridoty4285
      @teridoty4285 2 місяці тому +1

      For real - I've met some very special and amazing people, and at this point it just feels like family.

  • @turdferguson-
    @turdferguson- 3 місяці тому +21

    I have Ducatis and Harleys. Each bike has its purpose. When I want to hit twisties, I take my Duc. When I want to cruise with friends, or ride in the city, I take my Bagger. Also, it depends on where you live. If you are on the westcoast and you ride a performance bagger, you typically wear a full face helmet, for example.

    • @Skidz75
      @Skidz75 3 місяці тому +4

      @@turdferguson- I live in TX and wear FF. Seen enough close up working in the hospital that I don’t want my noggin to splat all over the road. 👊

    • @turdferguson-
      @turdferguson- 3 місяці тому

      @@Skidz75 I have been hit with bugs to the face with my shield up, i can only imagine what it would be with a skull cap lol.
      Also, you go down and you can say goodbye to your chin. I like my chin. lol
      What kind of bike do you ride?

    • @VndNvwYvvSvv
      @VndNvwYvvSvv 2 місяці тому

      Helmet?! On a cruiser?! That's for LIBROL SNOWFLAKES. JESUS WILL PROTECT ME OR TAKE ME AS HE WISHES, WATCH OUT FOR THEM GRASS CLIBBINS OR YA MIGHT HAFTALAYERDOWN, GOBBLESS

  • @Profano23
    @Profano23 3 місяці тому +615

    Bro this content is getting kinda lazy

    • @nathanielwithccs
      @nathanielwithccs 3 місяці тому +128

      When he said he was going to start daily uploading I assumed it would become quantity over quality, people watch though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @amalsatheesh548
      @amalsatheesh548 3 місяці тому +21

      ​@@nathanielwithccsThat's correct

    • @T____W____7777
      @T____W____7777 3 місяці тому +44

      It’s beginner rider content, but I think this is the wrong time for it. People are starting to winterize their bike. Feb. - April is when new riders are getting their license/first bike.
      Honestly daily uploads ain’t sustainable. That’s 730 new ideas in two years. Quality will definitely begin to drop off somewhere.

    • @tuanoful
      @tuanoful 3 місяці тому +10

      Said the same thing, in other words. And got insulted

    • @grizzlyrunfast
      @grizzlyrunfast 3 місяці тому +18

      I came here to say this. He's reaching so far. This shit is LAME

  • @Aussie-HJW
    @Aussie-HJW 2 місяці тому +5

    When you're an old geezer with screwed shoulders like me, a sports bike is hard work. Jumping on my cruiser and a leisurely ride is great therapy to clear my head.

    • @Chudsaves
      @Chudsaves 2 місяці тому

      @@Aussie-HJW 53 … need shoulder replacement. Went from my zrx1100 to a Yamaha mt10. Wow … it’s actually a nice ride. Although shoulder hurts no matter what. Haha

  • @Roscoe-CFMoto
    @Roscoe-CFMoto 3 місяці тому +7

    Oh yes, have both and just depends on the frame of mind.
    Agreed, the gear is different and style of riding.
    Having a choice between the two is amazing!!
    Keep you the great videos!!

  • @taurbaby
    @taurbaby 3 місяці тому +10

    Current stable.... shovelhead, ninja 650...fzr400....its fun to switch. Makes you appreciate all aspects of how much fun riding is.

    • @plap.
      @plap. 2 місяці тому

      @@taurbaby FZR 400 is cool, don't see them at all anymore. I'd trade my 92 FZR 600 for one just because of the aluminum frame. Don't ever sell it

    • @taurbaby
      @taurbaby 2 місяці тому +1

      @plap. I had an 88 fzr 750 also. Someone borrowed it and high sided. Sad...that was a perfect bike for me

    • @plap.
      @plap. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@taurbaby Those were sweet too. Had a friend that totaled one, he hit a parked car with it and crushed the tank with his nuts. lol. I had a '86 Gsxr 750 at the time. The FZR was well put together comparably.

  • @MichaelMartinez-kg7uw
    @MichaelMartinez-kg7uw 3 місяці тому +4

    I have both a cruiser and a sport bike. After experiencing both, I can say now I appreciate the cruiser just a little bit more.

  • @terminalvelocity1412
    @terminalvelocity1412 Місяць тому +1

    I'm 63 years old, and have a 40th Anniversary Kawasaki Ninja ZX14R, and a Harley Street Glide, (special edition), in my Garage, and I love BOTH. What I ride just depends on what mood I'm in that day.

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump3788 3 місяці тому +42

    Been doing this for a while, in all that time I've never heard a sportbiker (or any other non-cruiser style bike) say something bad about cruisers. On the other hand, middle fingers, general disdain & "When are you gonna get a REAL bike!" happens when interacting with cruiser riders, especially Harely owners. Heck, I'll even give a friendly wave to scooter & mopeds, we're all on 2 wheels, but some cruisers just seem to think their s**t don't stink & they're better than everyone else.

    • @JW-bw8nj
      @JW-bw8nj 3 місяці тому +14

      As a cruiser rider, I'm going to have to she with you. While sport bike riding isn't MY things, I don't have any personal disdain for sport bike riders. However, I can 100% see some Harley nut suckers acting that way toward you. Hell, I've had some of them act that way toward me because I ride Japanese cruises (which apparently aren't "real" cruisers). Do what you want to do and fuck what those old ignorant dinosaurs think.

    • @pitchforkpeasant6219
      @pitchforkpeasant6219 3 місяці тому +5

      Kinda like leftists do?😂

    • @Maryland_Motorcycle_Rides
      @Maryland_Motorcycle_Rides 3 місяці тому +1

      @@pitchforkpeasant6219 Lmao

    • @Maryland_Motorcycle_Rides
      @Maryland_Motorcycle_Rides 3 місяці тому

      Too many times not getting the wave back, so I don't throw it to them anymore. They might get a nod if they're lucky. Lol

    • @jakeedgell591
      @jakeedgell591 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@JW-bw8njREAL cruisers are all noise and no power, get the same gas mileage as a truck, and have to be worked on constantly 😂 how dare you think your faster, more reliable, and more fuel efficient metric bike is a real cruiser

  • @decocatani
    @decocatani 3 місяці тому +16

    That’s why sport touring bikes are the choice of mature riders that like some serious speed and leaning, without sacrificing comfort and safety.

    • @thefortniteteller6300
      @thefortniteteller6300 3 місяці тому +3

      Honda VFR800 for the win!

    • @gumpyoldbugger6944
      @gumpyoldbugger6944 3 місяці тому +1

      At last, someone else gets it, Sport Touring, the best of both worlds. I had a 1996 Kawasaki Connie 1100 in Arrest Me Red and 1998 Triumph Trophy 1200 in proper British Racing Green with matching top box and panniers. They ST I really want was the 2005 to 2009 Triumph Sprint ST 1050, the one with the exhaust tuck up under the saddle.
      Wasn't very impressed when Triumph revamped the Spirnt in 2010 into the GT model, they enlarged and "civilized" what was the hooligan bike of the ST world and emasculated it in my opinion. The less said what they did to the later Trophy's the better.

    • @gumpyoldbugger6944
      @gumpyoldbugger6944 3 місяці тому

      @@thefortniteteller6300 I'll see your Honda and raise you the Triumph Sprint ST (not the GT) either the 900 or 1050 triples.

    • @stephc4427
      @stephc4427 3 місяці тому +1

      2016 FJR1300 for me.

    • @gumpyoldbugger6944
      @gumpyoldbugger6944 3 місяці тому

      @@stephc4427 Good choice........had my eye on one but got the Connie instead.

  • @JamesDempsey-o5b
    @JamesDempsey-o5b 2 місяці тому +2

    I own 2 Honda Sport-bikes and 2 Harley Davidsons cruisers. Love the variety 🎉

  • @zaphodbeeblebrox4574
    @zaphodbeeblebrox4574 3 місяці тому +40

    I'm retired and have both a cruiser and a sports bike. I enjoy both very much. When I have ridden with them, I have found that many (many) cruiser riders are VERY much concerned with IMAGE and can get really uptight when one does not conform with, for example, their riding formations. Breaking out on ones own is not accepted. It's conform or leave the pack. I find that odd since most will protest that their riding is all about freedom !!!. Even wearing a different style of helmet or perhaps wearing a jacket that is not predominantly black is frowned upon and places you as an outsider.

    • @turdferguson-
      @turdferguson- 3 місяці тому +2

      This is because cruiser riding is about the group. Sport bike riding is individual.

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 3 місяці тому

      Definitely an element of truth to that.

    • @ryanmichael7795
      @ryanmichael7795 3 місяці тому +2

      A guy i know with a harley is literally as you describe. Once any of his friends got a bike they all joined a group with their own clothing. Same with powerlifting, any of his friends that as much as lifted a weight at the gym he trained out of were all part of a powerlifting team with their own branded gym gear. I always thought can you not just enjoy stuff without having to form a boyband 😂

    • @ObsidianB8
      @ObsidianB8 3 місяці тому +3

      Lame... This seems anti American lol. What happened to the individual, individualism?

    • @turdferguson-
      @turdferguson- 3 місяці тому +4

      @ObsidianB8 he's talking about a specific group of riders who are part of a biker group, where they wear cuts and everything. I ride with 40 baggers and cruisers every weekend, and there is no uniformity. Everyone has their own style. In fact, where I live, no one dresses the same unless they are in a gang.

  • @RobPenguinsSince78
    @RobPenguinsSince78 3 місяці тому +3

    Through my 20's I rode an inline four and loved ripping around. I would say that sport bikes were for riding and Harley's were a piece of art. I would take a 160 or 200 mile trip on it and that was an adventure to brag about. When I was 40, I bought a Harley and for the past 15 years a 200 mile jaunt is me just warming her up. I went from wanting to go really fast with friends to wanting to chew up miles by myself with a beautiful bike.

  • @christian_esquivel
    @christian_esquivel 3 місяці тому +33

    He’s speaking the truth and that’s coming from a Harley guy. I went on a ride with two guys on YamahaR6 bikes and I felt like I was holding them back ruining their time

    • @RevusX
      @RevusX 3 місяці тому +44

      Sports bike guy here, when want to do fun stuff, we just ride solo. If we're riding with a cruiser brother, we're just happy to be seen as part of the pack.

    • @KillaSnow
      @KillaSnow 3 місяці тому +8

      @@RevusX this 100%

    • @gumpyoldbugger6944
      @gumpyoldbugger6944 3 місяці тому +3

      I went with a local Vet riding club to the old CFB Chilliwack for group ride to the Base muesum, I was on my Honda V45 Sabre, they were on various cruisers. On the way back from the visit while traveling back to Vancouver on the Highway, I got bored with their rather pedestrian pace, aka keeping to the posted speed limit, that I cranked up the Sabre's V four 750 engine and waved bye-bye to them as I buggered off at better pace (at least 30 MPH more then legal). I was in my mid-50's at the time and at least 10 years old then the next oldest rided. Sometimes we old buggers suprise the youngsters.

  • @tylerwilliams1882
    @tylerwilliams1882 3 місяці тому +18

    I've just evolved I guess, I own a Street Triple RS, Bonneville T100 and a Vespa 150. I just love 2 wheels!

  • @bobbywhittaker1569
    @bobbywhittaker1569 2 місяці тому +1

    I will say I do prefer a cruiser over sport bikes but I think you did a wonderful job breaking the two down.

  • @ains2904
    @ains2904 2 місяці тому +2

    6:07 when i first heard about 2 litre cruisers i thought "danm, ive driven cars with less than that"

  • @Lifesguiltypleasures-i6s
    @Lifesguiltypleasures-i6s 3 місяці тому +2

    This is why i love my Ducati 1200 S. It’s a nice middle ground between the two because of all the torque (95 ft-lbs or so) available from two cylinders in an L configuration on a bike that weighs about 450 pounds. Cruises on the highway at 80 miles an hour at 5000 RPM with a 10,000 RPM redline. But with the power to weight ratio of 150 hp to a bike that weighs about 450 pounds It also accelerates with haste. Not sport, bike haste, but somewhere more towards that end than the acceleration of a cruiser, and you feel more vibes than a sport bike but not as much as a cruiser. 👍 All this is perfect for my 70-y/o butt.

  • @Skidz75
    @Skidz75 3 місяці тому +16

    I have a Ducati SS950S and an HD StreetBob 114. So I love both. ❤️✌️

    • @christianburger25
      @christianburger25 3 місяці тому +2

      The SuperSport may be one of the most comfy sport bikes on the market. Not to mention it makes you feel like a movie star. I absolutely love it!

    • @Skidz75
      @Skidz75 3 місяці тому

      @@christianburger25 it is referred to as the “gentlemen’s Ducati” amongst ducatisti. 😉

    • @TwistedOnyx369
      @TwistedOnyx369 3 місяці тому

      Oooooh. Someone's got expensive taste. Nice! Both brands make some beautiful bikes.

  • @Q_N-
    @Q_N- 3 місяці тому +9

    I have both, and Idgaf what either side thinks 🤣 I’ll nod to you if you nod to me. Otherwise, I ignore every other rider under the sun. 🤷‍♂️ Ride for enjoyment, not for recognition 🎉

  • @DonJ.
    @DonJ. 3 місяці тому +51

    What happens when a sportbike knock-up a cruiser.... We get sport touring!!! 🤩👍💯💯💯

    • @superduperkid3143
      @superduperkid3143 3 місяці тому +1

      That would be sport and touring. Not sport and cruiser.

    • @timothythompson4144
      @timothythompson4144 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@superduperkid3143 Most cruisers are touring bikes these days.

    • @bazerkerx
      @bazerkerx 3 місяці тому +2

      Muscle cruiser like the Scouts, revmax bikes, rebel 1100 etc

    • @DonJ.
      @DonJ. 3 місяці тому +2

      Imagine having the speed of a Busa but Layz-boy comfortable. 🤩🤩🤩

    • @bazerkerx
      @bazerkerx 3 місяці тому +1

      @DonJ. yeah id rather go with like a pan america and have all that plus not be afraid of gravel roads and what they'd do to my bike

  • @5280Roadrunner
    @5280Roadrunner 3 місяці тому +2

    Bikes don’t matter, it’s the rider. I ride with guys in their 70s who ride a cruiser and kick ass. All about skill.

  • @jovanmilosevic2494
    @jovanmilosevic2494 3 місяці тому +4

    I'm 72. Recently switched from a zzr600 to a Vulcan 650S, so not a sport bike to not a cruiser. I must be deeply troubled.

  • @siegfriedmotoron
    @siegfriedmotoron 3 місяці тому +7

    I have a cruiser with stock exhaust. :D Lot of european countryes are very strickt abaut modified bikes, so its less pain in the behind to not modify it much.

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому

      Found the Blue Oyster Bar customer!

    • @siegfriedmotoron
      @siegfriedmotoron 3 місяці тому

      @@Emily-ou6lq in austria for example, they stop you, mesure the db of your bike, if its over 96 db you pay an extreme amount of fine and take away your license. You probably have only illegal stuff.

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому

      @@siegfriedmotoron Every silencer on every bike I own is marked E13. E13 stands for Luxembourg which is where they've got their homologation from. You seem to assume a little too much, fren.

    • @siegfriedmotoron
      @siegfriedmotoron 3 місяці тому

      @@Emily-ou6lq I dont adume, I was told by the police. Different countryes, different regulazions. In Slovakia nibody gives a f. In Hungary they banned all motorcyclists from a panoramic road because of laud pipes and speeding.

    • @Emily-ou6lq
      @Emily-ou6lq 3 місяці тому

      @@siegfriedmotoron Du verstehst ja gar nix 😆

  • @MrErickson33
    @MrErickson33 2 місяці тому

    all riders just need to love each other no matter what... one life! be happy and ride

  • @GUNNER1921
    @GUNNER1921 3 місяці тому +6

    Personmally my VFR Interceptor is the perfect middle ground. Good speed with vtec and good comfort for longer rides.

    • @thechamp73
      @thechamp73 3 місяці тому

      I have a BMW 1250RS, kinda the same? LOL I love to cruise and hall butt! and I am 51 this month.

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 3 місяці тому

      I'm selling my CB1300 because, whilst stunning to look at, it's too middle-of-the-road.
      I've got a Harley and a Honda Fireblade. I love the two extremes.

    • @clonecommandermike332
      @clonecommandermike332 3 місяці тому +1

      Seeing a VFR 800 is what triggered my motorcycle addiction

    • @thefortniteteller6300
      @thefortniteteller6300 3 місяці тому

      @@clonecommandermike332 same!

    • @thefortniteteller6300
      @thefortniteteller6300 3 місяці тому

      @@clonecommandermike332I bought one about a month ago as my first ever bike

  • @PopsRacer61
    @PopsRacer61 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm 63 and have been fascinated with cars & bikes since I could walk. I like the various sounds of the engines, and just infatuated with their history & technology. I've been riding sport bikes since the 80's when the 1st GSX R hit the scene. I own several sport bikes and love everything about them but also like all bikes and don't pay attention to what people say or think 🧠

  • @joem9751
    @joem9751 3 місяці тому +2

    Started with dirt bikes as a kid in the 80's, then came the sportbikes, now comes the Harley. I can't even imagine getting on a sportbike now, as much as I couldn't imagine getting on a Harley 20 years ago. The cycle of moto life.

    • @jamesgeorgevellavella1961
      @jamesgeorgevellavella1961 2 місяці тому

      Lol I'm 45 so decades before I bite the bullet and get a cruiser 👍 stay safe out there bro. I don't feel old enough for a cruiser yet😂

    • @ma3stro681
      @ma3stro681 2 місяці тому

      Late 50s and can’t imagine ever getting on a cumbersome Harley. It will just never happen. I’d quit riding first. Love my nippy sportsbike … 😎

  • @danofottawa666
    @danofottawa666 2 місяці тому

    Keep up the good work on your channel !!
    I’m 55 with a 2012 R1 on my 4th season but not my 1st bike but my fastest 😮
    Touring with old timers or high reving with the twisties with the other group = I can never wipe the grin on my face at any any speed.
    Nothing like the melodic sound of a crossplane Yammy R1 @10,000 ++ RPM

  • @Genghis_Khaan_
    @Genghis_Khaan_ 16 днів тому

    I own both and the biggest difference is one likes to try and look cool/identify their entire persona over owning a “sports bike”. The other other likes to ride and cruise in comfort over looks, or they’re doing the same thing and identifying their entire personality over being a part of a “brotherhood”.

  • @mattcrad8605
    @mattcrad8605 3 місяці тому +27

    That guy on the Indian at 3:45 looks more uncomfortable than me on my CBR. Dude looks almost folded in half. At least look cool while you feel stupid is my philosophy.

    • @Kenicavus
      @Kenicavus 3 місяці тому

      🍤

    • @sonnyday6830
      @sonnyday6830 3 місяці тому

      yea true, would be uncomfortable if you had a beer belly riding that

    • @ma3stro681
      @ma3stro681 2 місяці тому

      Exactly. What a terrible riding position. Taking into account the wind buffeting from no screen and anything over 80kmh you’d almost get blown off … 😂

  • @ShiftnWolf72
    @ShiftnWolf72 2 місяці тому +1

    I started following you years ago and you opened my mind to sports riders. I love riding my couch, but I am in awe in what racers like the Ilse of Man can do on a motorcycle. There are a number of sports bikes I find sexy as hell. I encourage people to ride what they want. We are riding for ourselves not others. Cruiser, Sport, Duel Sport, ect, they are all good IMO

  • @GRAV3L420
    @GRAV3L420 3 місяці тому +1

    I learned on a sport bike but have been Harley rider most of my adult life. Solid points all around in the video however I get along just fine with sport bike riders, hell I get a long well with the scooter crowd too. It's the love of riding 2's that binds us all together no matter what the reasons for it.

  • @stephaneroy3976
    @stephaneroy3976 2 місяці тому

    Got my first bike at 36 years old , CBR 650R, have not regretted a second of it! Gotta love them high revs ;)

  • @teridoty4285
    @teridoty4285 2 місяці тому

    Everyone in my family who rides, rides a different style/type of bike. I started learning to ride this year on a 24 Duke 390, then moved up to a 24 Duke 990 (at 55). I sat on, looked at, and researched a ton of different brands, models, and rider positions, and the one that clicked for me is my Dukes. This summer we went to a couple of charity group events (mostly Harleys, some ADV bikes, a couple sport bikes, and can-ams). These were organized rides, with safety rules, and an itinerary - the goal was a great day for everyone - and it delivered. I have to say that at this point, I haven't had any negative experiences with cruiser riders or anyone else. Everyone I've talked to either at events or at Cycle Gear has been really nice, regardless of their bike/ride style. We all do this thing for our own reasons, and I try to be open minded and learn about different facets of rider cultures.

  • @Czarofnaboo
    @Czarofnaboo 3 місяці тому +3

    The most dangerous 2 wheel experience is scooters and mopeds. You cant get away from the traffic and they ride on you even if you are doing 20 over. Ive tested this with cops. Never ride a scooter at night people think its funny to try and hit you or run you off the road. This translates in a much smaller percentage to motorcycle accidents as well.

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 3 місяці тому

      They're POS deathtraps that are only good for the crusher.

  • @williamk5998
    @williamk5998 3 місяці тому +3

    Cruiser and sport bike riders need to unite. The division of the future will be motorcycles versus electrics.

  • @benkimballbk.5809
    @benkimballbk.5809 3 місяці тому +1

    honestly as a sport bike guy, i get along better with cruiser riders than i do with most of those highway heroes. They have a lot less ego and are more fun to talk with instead of having the same exact conversation about which 600 will win from a roll. I feel like now the majority of sport bike guys just like flexing, not even riding. I wave to everyone though no matter what or how they ride.

  • @SwagatVlogs
    @SwagatVlogs 3 місяці тому +12

    I come in the middle. Love naked street bikes.
    Comfortable so can cruise like a cruiser but powerful if you want to be hoonigan. 😎💯

    • @waynegoldpig2220
      @waynegoldpig2220 3 місяці тому +2

      Had a CB1300 for the last 10 years. Selling it because I've now got a harley and a Fireblade.

    • @GiovanniMazzeo-r1n
      @GiovanniMazzeo-r1n 3 місяці тому +3

      I agree naked bikes are practical and fun.👍😁

    • @ObsidianB8
      @ObsidianB8 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm looking at a 2000s FZ6, for those who don't know it's a detuned R6 naked bike, it's sort of the previous sessor to the MT series that we have now. It's got like a half fairing, and if I were to compare it to something else it'd be like a Yamaha R6 version of a SV650

    • @JayWhiteGames
      @JayWhiteGames 3 місяці тому

      Naked bikes are mint 👌🏽 hoping to buy an MT07 for next season

    • @EggEnjoyer
      @EggEnjoyer 3 місяці тому

      How are they on the highway?
      Can’t choose between a z400 or ninja 400

  • @LanceWinslow
    @LanceWinslow 2 місяці тому

    I like both types of riding myself. I have a CBR 600R and an old heavy Harley. I must say I like the trouble free maintenance, speed, adrenaline rush, stopping ability, acceleration, lower cost and easier to control aspects of the CBR, but, I love the rumble and the freedom of the road on my Harley. It's much about how you feel and what you are at for.

  • @christophermccutcheonichib4256
    @christophermccutcheonichib4256 3 місяці тому +2

    Tell me you’re a sport bike rider without telling me you’re a sport bike rider.

  • @mikeww7936
    @mikeww7936 3 місяці тому +3

    Damn, I guess I’m the odd ball. I got a Harley M8 Softail a CB650R and a KLR650. I’m looking at getting a 25 Grom next.

  • @isitbowseason
    @isitbowseason 3 місяці тому +2

    You left out the “mean mug” they put on as soon as they sit on their bike 😂

    • @MLeago
      @MLeago 3 місяці тому

      Don’t worry about it man. Sport bike riders are really gay. They won’t harm you. Just video

  • @abyb1923
    @abyb1923 3 місяці тому +1

    Owned many bikes in my days in this order ; k6gsxr600, HD sportster 1200, 2012 gsxr 750, Ducati street fighter 848, 2020 gsxr 600, 2020 Panigale 959. Currently on a built HD 135hp 125tq, adding the new zx4rr next year to balance out the stable. I think having those 2 bikes will be the perfect verity switching between the two depending if I’m feeling squidy or brotherly that day.

  • @johntractor9799
    @johntractor9799 2 місяці тому

    This is where higher powered naked bikes fit nicely.
    Bikes like the MT10 or MT09, have that easy upright riding position to cruise around with your Harley mates.
    But also have explosive power and torque, and if you want to tuck down, they can be as fiery as a sport bike.

  • @littlebiker_2155
    @littlebiker_2155 2 місяці тому +1

    Sportbike kids seem more like printed off at the assembly line, like the Power Rangers 😂

  • @TNGraFix
    @TNGraFix 2 місяці тому +1

    I smiled throughout the entire video. I'm thinking about getting old and possibly getting a cruiser Harley or something.

  • @NoBaconForYou
    @NoBaconForYou 3 місяці тому +6

    Plees pick up yur grass clibbins! A boss might hafta ride his hog over your clibbins an hafta layerdown! PSA!

  • @warmwatersloth6188
    @warmwatersloth6188 3 місяці тому +1

    I have never seen a cruiser out when i am zipping around and thought " man i wish i had a cruiser, that looks fun"

  • @grapes__
    @grapes__ 2 місяці тому

    Sports bikes have a higher chance to not have a license plate and also run from the cops while cruisers are chill asf with the cops

  • @edwardkeeter762
    @edwardkeeter762 3 місяці тому

    Proud owner of a Shadow Aero 750 that rewards laid-back riding and a SV650S that rewards spirited riding. I love them both equally...it always just comes down to what mood I'm in when I walk into the garage.

  • @lifewithmike1883
    @lifewithmike1883 2 місяці тому

    I have a Harley-Davidson low rider and a GSX-S 1000. Did the sportbike game for 34 yrs, my first sportbike was a 95' 916sps. At 52 now I still enjoy the rush but the risks just arnt worth it anymore as we don't heal the way we used to.... I can never give up my cruiser at this point and we should make sure we respect all who ride!!

  • @ryanpierce9793
    @ryanpierce9793 2 місяці тому

    Biggest factor : What roads you ride. Get the right tool for the job and you'll be happier and safer overall. Whether that be a dialed weapon for the fast open canyon roads of California , or a more relaxed visceral cruiser for the slower residential backroads of Virginia. Tool for the job. Better yet, get both. Enjoy and love them for their strengths, and use appropriately.

  • @grizzlypandasasquatch9026
    @grizzlypandasasquatch9026 2 місяці тому

    I've been riding for 3 years so basically still "the new kid" but I've only ever ridden cruisers (and one cafe racer) but dear god did I learn quickly that if you have an uncomfortable seat for longer rides you're going to feel it for a long time

  • @oychoppa
    @oychoppa 2 місяці тому

    I started my riding career on cruisers. Rode several different styles and brands of cruisers over several years. Then, I bought a FJR1300 and it totally changed my perspective. It wasn’t long before I found myself bored with the typical heavy V-Twin cruisers. I eventually evolved to owning nothing but sport bikes or sport touring bikes. I’m 57 now and own a FJR1300 / 145HP, CBR954RR /160HP, and a VFR1200F / 170+HP which is my go to bike. Even did a track day on it at Circuit of The America’s last year. She’s a big heavy girl getting around those corners but in the straights she’ll kick ass and take names against non-liter bikes. I just don’t understand how someone can go from riding a performance oriented motorcycle to riding a big heavy cruiser.

  • @SerratedViper
    @SerratedViper 2 місяці тому +1

    I live in the UK, I currently have a Ninja 125 & look to get a Ninja 650 once I get my full licence, passed my theory test yesterday!
    I am also apart of a Motorbike Club in which I am the only Sport bike Rider. You can enjoy the best of both worlds! I get to go out on group rides with both chilled cruiser riders & the chaos of riding with other Sport Bike riders!
    With my Motorcycle Club despite the difference in the approach of riding they have been incredible with their advice and taught be things like how I can service my own motorcycle, show me which tools I need, where I can get them front. Where I can find bargains for quality stuff without getting ripped off etc
    Meanwhile it's a learning curve for them to see the difference in how i ride, techniques I have started to use. How I need to work on my bike to do repairs etc

  • @CezaryDubaj
    @CezaryDubaj 3 місяці тому

    I’m convinced the cruiser vs sport beef only exists on the internet

  • @BracesandBoots1
    @BracesandBoots1 3 місяці тому +2

    It's the difference in a ski boat and a pontoon boat. If you have a heavy wife and grandkids, you get a party barge and you enjoy it. If you dipped on the mother of your children and started over with a young thing with psychological problems, you get the ski boat and will soon find out that you've made a terrible mistake. Ride your age!

  • @davidleatherwood6228
    @davidleatherwood6228 3 місяці тому

    The part about gravitating toward different bikes as we age is absolutely true. When I was 18, I was all about getting a Kawasaki Ninja. Nothing else would do. As I aged, my preference shifted toward cruisers and I'm now approaching my 2nd year of owning a Harley, which happened to be my first bike.

  • @TheCdnLibertarian
    @TheCdnLibertarian 2 місяці тому +7

    For us older guys, it’s not that we don’t appreciate the performance of the sport bike. We just can’t sit cramped up on a sport bike without knees locking up, the arthritis in the wrists acting up, the sciatic nerve causing a loss of feeling in our legs from the flat hard seats, and our lower backs seizing up from being bent over the tank. 😂
    We need either an ADV bike with the longer seats and up right position to be able to reposition our seating position 20 times an hour, including standing on the pegs. Or the laid back, no pressure on the wrist, seat as thick as a lazy boy lounger cruiser.

  • @barrywarren4221
    @barrywarren4221 3 місяці тому

    I gave my 1976 HD Superguide to my son and got me a 2024 Kawasaki Eliminator SE abs. I love the Kawasaki it's lite weight and perfect for me at 70 yrs. old.

  • @giba2130
    @giba2130 3 місяці тому

    Well… i’m 21 years old and i like sports bikes, but man i just can’t love cruisers enough… they’re so chill, thats why i go for those “sporty cruisers” on the market.

  • @urbanbshvac
    @urbanbshvac 3 місяці тому

    I think you hit the nail on the head here bud, cheers

  • @UnsolicitatedWisdom
    @UnsolicitatedWisdom 2 місяці тому +5

    Honestly all of my sport bike friends seem to just like crashing and blaming cars they cut off

    • @tonyburns5388
      @tonyburns5388 27 днів тому

      There are a small number of these people but most of us are good riders and follow the laws and are respectful to drivers around them.

    • @MG-ks1qg
      @MG-ks1qg 16 днів тому

      It's a shame that the 90 percent of sport bike riders do stuff like that and ruin the good name of the other 10 percent.

  • @illbrush3672
    @illbrush3672 3 місяці тому +3

    Can confirm I ride a cruiser with stock exhaust

  • @Oilerrocker
    @Oilerrocker 3 місяці тому

    If I drank a beer every time Yammie mentions his Hayabusa I’d be in rehab. 😝 great video and so right.

  • @kevinbelanger4134
    @kevinbelanger4134 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't have a motorcycle but used be a v8 person then then test drive a EcoBoost and now have one it's the 2.7 and love it just as fun and try something new you might just like it remember what ever you drive or ride have fun and be safe out there

  • @Edwin6932
    @Edwin6932 Місяць тому

    I am 59-year-old super sport rider that has a highly modified 2018 CBR1000RR that I have put 22,000 miles myself. The big difference that I see is that cruiser riders don't like to wear protective gear, and that is why when they have a bad day on the road, they usually either get killed or really hurt. I was in an accident in a 600, and my protective gear saved me. They fail to understand that 80 MPH in a cruiser is the same as in a Super Sport, and if you have an accident, you are fuck. When I had the accident, it was at 60MPH, and my gear got messed up, but I was able to make it home.

  • @almostrox7270
    @almostrox7270 Місяць тому

    What’s funny is I rode a cruiser once and rode it like I was driving my car, then got back on my sport bike and kind of second guessed why I was in a crouching position for and hour and half ride home on straight flat roads. Def need to have both a cruiser for “cruising” and a sport bike for twisty roads and tracks to let the demons out!! As yammie says don’t use the road like a track!!

  • @ExperiencesAndEquipment
    @ExperiencesAndEquipment 2 місяці тому

    I was the lone cruiser with my sport bike friends. Once I had a 1700 roadstar warrior I was able to hang with ease and ride further because I was comfortable.
    We don't have enough curvy roads to really get a great benefit of sport bikes where I live.

  • @Demonbfg
    @Demonbfg 2 місяці тому

    Back in the day, had a Harley and a FZR 1000. Now at 75 years old, just have the one motorcycle, ZX-14r, which does it all for me.

  • @Thatonedutchguy99
    @Thatonedutchguy99 3 місяці тому

    I've been riding a Z900 myself for the last couple of years and while it's kinda the best of both worlds, at least it is for me. I've always loved the sound of a good V-twin, it's just a sound you can't get around.

  • @bryoncovell1157
    @bryoncovell1157 2 місяці тому

    I bought a 2020 Vaquero bagger new in May of that year. It is a dream to ride, and just jam to some tunes as the miles pass. I have had several other "second" bikes in the last few years, but realized that what I wanted was to get back to the sport roots that I love. I bought a 2024 R1250 RS this month. Not technically a full on sport bike, but man that Beemer boxer engine has got some torque to really get the rush going as you zoom through the corners.
    My daughter loves to ask me what my favorite fill in the blank is. (food, music genre, specific song, etc.). My answer to her is that it depends on what mood I'm in. For the bikes I ride, it depends on that days' mood as well. Don't get me wrong, that 1700cc Kawasaki bagger will show you some torque and get up and scoot, but the front wheel doesn't get as "light" as the R1250RS's does.

  • @andyc44
    @andyc44 2 місяці тому

    I have a classic 77' Yamaha xs750. Its like the perfect bond between a cruiser and a sport bike :>
    Sport Touring baby

  • @jameseargle123
    @jameseargle123 3 місяці тому

    2024 MT10 SP & 2023 CanAm Ryker Rally 900 are in my garage. The Ryker is a blast to commute on. The MT is my dream bike. Each so different but both so fun. 🤙🏁

  • @coatescustoms6767
    @coatescustoms6767 2 місяці тому

    I'm 63yr and have a 1200 vmax it was my first road bike kinda like a marathon water ski then I added a zx1200r ninja kinda like a slalom water ski I put the skiing aside 10 years ago and replaced it with cool fast bikes Love them both Ride them a lot

  • @andressada9401
    @andressada9401 3 місяці тому +1

    I also enjoy almost all types of bikes. I've had an Indian Scout and Suzuki Katana at the same time. And right now I'm on a BMW F900GS haha. ✌️

  • @johnneal00
    @johnneal00 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm a new rider, but honestly, I don't care what bike you ride. I good with you and your style, and I'm gonna wave. =)

  • @jeffsdungeon7255
    @jeffsdungeon7255 3 місяці тому +1

    Used to ride sport bikes (had a Yamaha R6) and now have the Indian Scout. It's a great compromise between sport bike and cruiser. Once the revs get past 4500 rpm it blasts off like a missile. Much more usable street power than my R6. However with a ton of space and open area nothing rips like that R6...

  • @mrfelix2510
    @mrfelix2510 2 місяці тому

    I've been riding motorcycles for 46 yesrs now and in that time I have rode just anout everything, 3 wheelers, 4 wheelers, both 2 & 4 stroke dirt bikes tons of sport bikes as well as cruisers, choppers, 1 off custom built motorcycles, exotic bikes.... when younger, like it or not, your brain can process information much faster than when you get older, not to mention your body works much better as well. Back in the day, to me, there was no such thing as too fast. I loved speed and the sounds the sport bikes made. I spent years on them and I was just crazy about them. As I got older I started watching those biker build off programs in 2005-06, and to me, they seemed like a muscle car on 2 wheels. I started renting Harley Davidson motorcycles to try them out. Once I rented a Harley Davidson Ultra Classic and took it on a road trip. I just fell in love with riding them. The not trying to set a new land speed record was refreshing. Though a bit on the heavy side, and the rubber being a little to hard on the tires, they just take a bit of getting used to. Personally, I like all kinds of motorcycles and I think there are different ones for different needs of different people and places. When I was 15 and riding home from a friend's house one evening, an old school biker on an old school bike pulled up along side of me at a traffic light. I felt a little intimated bike what I was riding compared to what he was on. He looked over and said to me, " it's not what you ride but the fact that you ride, that matters." I thought that was pretty nice of him. We shouldn't have a us against them attitude when riding. We shouldn't think that everyone else has to like or ride what we like and ride. We should consider everyone on every bike a part of our motorcycle family.

  • @cristitimbota-belin5785
    @cristitimbota-belin5785 2 місяці тому

    As a first bike, I have a 450cc chopper, but I ride and keep up with the crazy speed boys because in my heart I'm something else 😂

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley 3 місяці тому

    I owned a cruiser once. I got rid of it because having my legs in front of me is SUPER uncomfortable. I don't know how people put down hours in the saddle like that.

  • @garyhoward2490
    @garyhoward2490 2 місяці тому

    That is why I love dual sporting.
    Cruiser guys and sport bike guys don't care about us off road guys at all.
    They kinda think that we are wacko, so pay us no mind, either way.
    The peace of jumping off of the road, and taking the trail less traveled is great.

  • @diegolopezzz18
    @diegolopezzz18 3 місяці тому +1

    In DFW I’ve NEVER seen a sport biker rider in full gear. The only riders I’ve seen in full gear is the ADV riders.

    • @prototype9904
      @prototype9904 3 місяці тому +1

      I think if I ever saw a squid in full gear out on the street, I'd think it was cosplay ;p

  • @dogfist
    @dogfist 3 місяці тому

    Though there will ALWAYS be the “aCtUaLLy”, exception dude posts, with 25 years in the saddle(s) I will absolutely confirm all the tropes and stereotypes listed, Yam.
    May have inadvertently contributed. I grew up on liter bikes, (fortunately/unfortunately), but have a garage full of biggest uglies now: ZX14r and 2nd Gen Valk.
    I live for these vids and laugh/cry when I know you’re about to roast my rides. Keep em comin

  • @NotaboyKisher
    @NotaboyKisher 2 місяці тому

    As a SE Asian
    I like both better when its semi automatic sport scooter that can go off-road better than CRF 150

  • @WarDog-ij4su
    @WarDog-ij4su 3 місяці тому

    I had a cruiser and sport bike but my cruiser got totaled 2 months ago so now I’m just waiting to heal and ride the one I got left😂

  • @SheepDogNumber6
    @SheepDogNumber6 3 місяці тому

    "Get a real bike" means a different thing to each group.

  • @whammo11224
    @whammo11224 3 місяці тому +2

    What bike at 3:22 please

    • @Legend_Kingpin
      @Legend_Kingpin 2 місяці тому +2

      Harley-Davidson V-rod,
      Custom I guess.

    • @whammo11224
      @whammo11224 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Legend_Kingpin Thank you

  • @TheRossicle
    @TheRossicle 3 місяці тому

    I ride an XSR900, the group that I ride with is made up of mostly cruisers, several Harley, a few Yamaha, an Indian, a KTM adventure bike, a KLR and a Triumph... For the most part, you're mostly right on with stereotypes! But we love riding with one another, even proud that we have an eclectic variety of bikes. I even plan on getting a second bike, a fun muscle cruiser, maybe a Yamaha Warrior 1700!

  • @AnarkeeSoundVibes
    @AnarkeeSoundVibes 2 місяці тому

    I'm still a sport bike enthusiast, but at 45, I'm not as interested in hitting a 2 mile wheelie at 100 MPH on the highway like I was in my 20's. I've never been into cruisers, even when my aunt and uncle owned their own Harley Davidson shop.

  • @lr1a704
    @lr1a704 2 місяці тому

    On my ZX4RR or my Lowrider S I can be caught in a t-shirt, cargo shorts, sneakers, helmet and gloves. Track days have become a regular thing for me and convinced me trying to do that on the street is just plain stupid. I might twist it out a little on the interstate but my riding has gotten a lot tamer since I started going to the track. I wouldn't give up either riding style for anything.

  • @originalgaige5619
    @originalgaige5619 3 місяці тому

    My dad has been riding for 30+ years at this point. Pretty much all sportbikes, but within the past 10 years or so he's slowly transitioned to the sport touring style. Started with a Honda VFR 1200 and 2ish years ago he picked up a Yamaha FJR 1300. But he can still throw those things around like he's back at the track. I've personally seen him put the gap on cocky 600 and 1000 riders lol

  • @mattriddle4573
    @mattriddle4573 2 місяці тому

    I started on a CTX 700 and just bought a Cbr 650. The Cbr is wayyy more fun, and while it’s still new, it feels like a lot more bike to handle. In the roads around here, the CTX is almost as fun and a lot more comfy. But ripping ass on a straight stretch on a bright red inline 4 is a scratch that no cruiser can itch. I love them both, but the CBR is my girl fs