The Force Awakens Pitch Meeting - Revisited!

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2023
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    Ever wonder how some of the big decisions for Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens were made? Wonder no more with this look inside the pitch meeting for the movie!
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  • @Christopher-md7tf
    @Christopher-md7tf 7 місяців тому +596

    Oh man, this reminds me of how much potential Finn had as a character and how they did absolutely nothing with it. By the end of the trilogy, his main job was yelling other people's names.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 7 місяців тому

      John Boyega just isn't main man material and China hates blacks.They should've cast someone else,preferably a handsome white guy.

    • @Valca.Design
      @Valca.Design 7 місяців тому +29

      This was one thing about The Last Jedi I wish had been continued. His interactions with the thief and discovering the cash belching war machine running underneath the never-ending conflict was SUPER interesting and I looked forward to seeing if he became a neutral party. But nah. Completely dropped the thread.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 7 місяців тому +43

      I assumed he was force sensitive, the way he handled a lightsaber and twice Kylo Ren seemed to sense something from him.

    • @waywardmind
      @waywardmind 7 місяців тому +13

      *R E I !*

    • @wesleyoldham4222
      @wesleyoldham4222 7 місяців тому +22

      @@Paulafan5 I was expecting Kylo Ren to grow more powerful and have a two-on-one saber battle against Rey and Finn (like Darth Maul or Asajj Ventress fights Anakin and Obi-Wan). Instead they kind of wandered around in all directions with the plot and ended with "Palpatine is back and Rey is the embodiment of all Jedi because this is Highlander or something."
      I also expected Rey and Ren both meaning "king" or "ruler" in other languages to become significant. Maybe even throw in another Jedi/Sith named Rex at some point.

  • @weswheel4834
    @weswheel4834 7 місяців тому +118

    Round of applause for the "Everybody loves Raymond" joke.

  • @thatllwork_official
    @thatllwork_official 7 місяців тому +427

    I for one loved the joke about Raymond

    • @Transilvanian90
      @Transilvanian90 7 місяців тому +12

      Everybody loves it :))))

    • @JakeTSnake7
      @JakeTSnake7 7 місяців тому +12

      Everybody loves Raymond joke.

    • @paulpwns8054
      @paulpwns8054 7 місяців тому +5

      Everybody loved the joke about Raymond

    • @tcortez
      @tcortez 7 місяців тому +3

      And the "tie fighter" was a wonderful visual pun.

    • @timhough
      @timhough 7 місяців тому +2

      Top tier. I had pause the video to just take it in! *chef's kiss*

  • @SarathKumar-bp2go
    @SarathKumar-bp2go 5 місяців тому +52

    I actually love you pointing out plot contrivance. That is the best part about the pitch meetings I miss. Your pitch meetings can easily make a writer question themselves.

    • @troubadour723
      @troubadour723 3 місяці тому +2

      You have to be prone to self-reflection and commitment to the craft. But we're talking about Hollywood screenwriters here, so . . .

  • @everybodylieshm
    @everybodylieshm 7 місяців тому +376

    I still love how Rey happens to be able to fly the Falcon, happens to understand BB8, happens to understand Chewie and happens to awaken powers when it suits her.

    • @Lavonne9870
      @Lavonne9870 7 місяців тому +18

      In the Solo movie, when Hans talks to Chewie in his language, I just about lost my shit! 😂

    • @dudelebowskithe2nd373
      @dudelebowskithe2nd373 7 місяців тому +53

      She happens to be good at everything without ever having to earn it. Absolutely the worst character ever

    • @sidwhiting665
      @sidwhiting665 7 місяців тому +27

      And also happens to be a space ship mechanic after only ever ripping apart the dead hulk of a Star Destroyer....
      .
      And also happens to speak with a British accent on Jakku even thought they don't show any other characters from that planet with British accents.
      .
      And also happens to be able to START the Millennium Flacon after it's been sitting in a junk yard for... years.... decades? Don't advanced space ships have any kind of security like... I dunno... a key at the very least? Or biometric login? I can't even sign into my Fantasy Football league without a complex password.
      .
      And of course the Falcon's fuel cells are all fully charged and ready to go, and the dry desert air and sandstorms one would expect on a sand planet haven't dried out any of its components or clogged any of it's systems.
      .
      I agree that conveniences and contrivances are needed to set things up. In Star Wars IV, I always thought it was too convenient that Leia's ship was attacked right near Tatooine, where her twin brother Luke just happened to live, and the droids just happen to land within about 10-20 miles of Luke's home, and his uncle just happened to need an interpreter droid, etc. But ultimately, once they got the story moving, it made sense that they found Han Solo where they did, that he had a motivation to help them (owing money to Jabba the Hut), and that Leia's capture led the Empire to destroy Alderaan, etc.

    • @nightmareTomek
      @nightmareTomek 7 місяців тому +14

      Rey is a strong, independent woman, those happen to be good at whatever they want.

    • @NinjaFlibble
      @NinjaFlibble 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@sidwhiting665
      I can see her having the mechanic skills with the provision that the ship parts are essentially the same between ships, just maybe a different size. Otherwise ship mechanics in Star Wars would be like doctors; with a ton of different specialties. I'm not sure if all this is something known or not though.

  • @grahammcdonald
    @grahammcdonald 7 місяців тому +463

    I think it's amazing how pitch meetings have evolved.
    WOW wow wow.

    • @XaviersFinest
      @XaviersFinest 7 місяців тому +76

      .... wow

    • @Extraamedium
      @Extraamedium 7 місяців тому +17

      Wow.

    • @KrimsonKracker
      @KrimsonKracker 7 місяців тому +3

      World of Warcraft indeed! 😏

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, from when he did them on papyrus. It's been a bumpy ride.

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej 7 місяців тому +2

      I'll always only read this in the Ryan George imitation of Owen Wilson :') it's my favorite wow wow... wow

  • @grafficacma
    @grafficacma 7 місяців тому +55

    Seeing an old, grumpy Ryan George cameo in the reboot of Pitch Meetings 20 years from now sounds SOOO AWESOME, I'm already looking forward to it!

  • @digandhide1520
    @digandhide1520 7 місяців тому +319

    Hey Ryan, question for you, have you ever seen a movie that you would’ve really liked to make a pitch meeting on but didn’t because you didn’t feel like it was a pitch meeting most people would be interested in?

    • @the_pheonix1
      @the_pheonix1 7 місяців тому +33

      I feel like doing Pitch Meetings on some less popular movies might actually drive people to watch some of them, bridging the taste-gap between Ryan and us in some way.

    • @nightmareTomek
      @nightmareTomek 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@the_pheonix1 No way, Pitch Meetings save me from watching many movies. If they'd be about a good film, the Pitch Meetings wouldn't be funny.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 7 місяців тому +4

      Like it's the one that they needed, but not the one that they deserved? Yeah, he did all the Christopher Nolan Bat-Man films.

    • @dillpickle59
      @dillpickle59 7 місяців тому +9

      ​​@@nightmareTomekNah I agree with the other guy, there's some movies I've watched sooner than I would've *because* I wanted to see the Pitch Meeting/Honest Trailer. 1. I don't want spoilers and 2. The jokes hit better when you know first-hand which scenes they're making fun of. Some jokes make you realize things you didn't notice when you watched the movie and some of them are extra funny when they point out stuff you noticed yourself, like "thank you I knew it wasn't just me!" Lol
      Sometimes when I watch a movie with my mom she'll make fun of parts of it and she'll ask me after to play the Pitch Meeting for it lol, like she was making fun of Wonder Woman's theme music playing all the time in the Snyder-cut so when Ryan made the same joke we started dying 😂

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej 6 місяців тому

      ​@@dillpickle59yea same, I even watched the bad movie with Will Smith and his son, because the Pitch Meeting is so hilarious :')

  • @SoybeanAK
    @SoybeanAK 7 місяців тому +670

    Honestly the "happens" joke is perfectly justified. Rey is another in a too-long list of protagonists who never do any protagonising. They just get bumped along by the universe, whispering "You're the Chosen One!"

    • @mlondimagubane8851
      @mlondimagubane8851 7 місяців тому +32

      You mean Raymond?

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews 7 місяців тому +19

      @@mlondimagubane8851 Everybody loves Raymond. 😂

    • @darwinism8181
      @darwinism8181 7 місяців тому +7

      Just like Luke, just like Anakin

    • @hamm0155
      @hamm0155 7 місяців тому

      As true as can be!

    • @blinkin7795
      @blinkin7795 7 місяців тому +72

      @@darwinism8181 with Luke there was tons of doubt and he spent years developing his force abilities and training to be anything resembling a Jedi. before that he was a farmer that liked to fly as a hobby. his first scene using a light saber was him getting shot repeatedly by a little training drone while he was learning to use the basic abilities of the force. if Luke had fought Vader in episode 4 then Luke would have been cut down instantly, before he could even swing his light saber. there was one big "because the movie needs to happen" moment: Luke buying the droids, everything else was generally a natural flow of events resulting from the droids falling specifically into Luke's hands.
      Anakin also spent years training and before that he was a pod racer that had really good reflexes. again Anakin was like 10 years old in the first movie so there was ZERO chance of him winning any fights. he wasn't shown as being properly trained until the second movie where he is well on his way to being a full adult. the big "because the movie needs to happen" moment there was simply Anakin being discovered by the jedi.
      in both previous cases, Luke and Anakin just barely had hints of weak jedi abilities, and no one was calling either of them "the chosen one" or any of that crap.
      Rey just kind of realized she was a jedi while sitting in a chair and started casually manipulating people's minds, using force pulls, and was suddenly an expert at fighting with a light saber. there was no training even implied, she just suddenly had a whole bunch of jedi master skills out of nowhere. and, i think the video did a decent job of listing off all of the "because the movie needs to happen" moments there.

  • @lancedicker858
    @lancedicker858 7 місяців тому +388

    Love the "tie fighter".
    And that was an awesome joke about how in 20 years you'll be doing what all the studios are doing now with older-hero reboots. Well done, sir!

    • @mkvv5687
      @mkvv5687 7 місяців тому +4

      When he talking about the future, I immediately imagined him saying it would be like today's "heroes are old" movies, then he said it. He led me right to it, and the anticipation of it coming enhanced it. He's good.

    • @user-ix6ri9vl1p
      @user-ix6ri9vl1p 7 місяців тому +2

      i knew it from the very begining

    • @alexp601
      @alexp601 7 місяців тому +2

      @@user-ix6ri9vl1p Yep same, it was an obvious joke as soon as he mentioned it

    • @quazzydiscman
      @quazzydiscman 6 місяців тому

      I too also understand quips and references! Hoooray beer!!

  • @infinitelybanta
    @infinitelybanta 7 місяців тому +31

    I love that the calling Rey “Raymond” at first is only to make the silly “Everybody Loves Raymond” joke. That’s the sort of high quality writing that made me follow this series!

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 7 місяців тому +2

      That as well as pointing out how silly it is to give girls a boys name especially when most of its fans are in the country that is making the film.
      Such as....
      Michael Burnam from STD
      Or..
      A former president calling his "wife" Michael all the time instead of Michelle.
      ;))

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 7 місяців тому +29

    These revisits are great to remind us just how much more evolved the writer and producer characters are now than they were back then.

  • @KamikazeCommie501
    @KamikazeCommie501 7 місяців тому +391

    As an Australian, I feel recognized. Thank you, Ryan. It's not easy living life upside down.

    • @bman8366
      @bman8366 7 місяців тому +4

      Hehehe!

    • @bravetherainbow
      @bravetherainbow 7 місяців тому +1

      Please can we please let this joke die, I am begging you

    • @Valordar
      @Valordar 7 місяців тому +4

      It should die and float six feet over!

    • @kredonystus7768
      @kredonystus7768 7 місяців тому +1

      How do you handle the outside harness'? Mine gives me chaffing on the shoulders.

    • @KamikazeCommie501
      @KamikazeCommie501 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kredonystus7768 I got the one that you tie to your balls. It's much better for mobility. Only takes a few weeks to build up some callouses and she'll be right mate!

  • @HomeLoungin
    @HomeLoungin 7 місяців тому +329

    It's fun to see how Ryan really developed the unique personality of these two characters over all the pitch meetings.

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander 7 місяців тому +21

      Well, he pays them, so he can direct their personalities as much as he wants to

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +7

      Betcha they know what each other's bee whole smells like.

    • @reezlaw
      @reezlaw 7 місяців тому +12

      He has so much more voice range now, so much more expressive

    • @DescendingVelocity
      @DescendingVelocity 7 місяців тому +7

      Character development! It’s funny how impactful it can be when done right…. COUGH COUGH DISNEY

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +3

      @@reezlaw Now that his ballz dropped for real this time, I cannot disagree with you son.

  • @matthewhines7895
    @matthewhines7895 7 місяців тому +152

    Question: Have you ever wondered that there are a team of writers out there(who are big fans of you), working on the ultimate bulletproof script, hoping that the movie doesn't appear on one of your episodes?
    You seriously rock, dude. Every single video you've made has always made me laugh.

    • @trumpetbob15
      @trumpetbob15 7 місяців тому +13

      Honestly, as a viewer, if there were actual writers focused on avoiding the Pitch Meeting, I can only think that would make MY viewing experience oh so much better!

    • @matthewhines7895
      @matthewhines7895 7 місяців тому +5

      @@trumpetbob15 Right?! I agree with you on that one, bud.
      I like to imagine that it's Ryan VS The Writers, and Ryan always prevails because it's "super easy, barely an inconvenience." Haha.

    • @ericwixom7898
      @ericwixom7898 7 місяців тому +1

      Yep. The re-hash was lame. It was a well-executed remake.

    • @AChannelThatDoesNothing
      @AChannelThatDoesNothing 7 місяців тому +2

      As an amateur writer, I try. I'd like to think I'm successful.

    • @UnleashthePhury
      @UnleashthePhury 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s not a team, but one guy - Michael McDoesntexist

  • @sidekickz2180
    @sidekickz2180 7 місяців тому +22

    In a world that's falling down all around us, we still have Ryan. He's like the violinists on the Titanic

    • @1Peasant
      @1Peasant 7 місяців тому

      Lmao

    • @FlatOnHisFace
      @FlatOnHisFace 6 місяців тому +2

      The world is falling up, for some of his fans. The _Upsidons_ just don't get enough recognition.

  • @z0mb055
    @z0mb055 7 місяців тому +94

    Not only did the Ray Ramano joke stood the test of time but has been improved upon in this segment!

  • @jojithehomie7809
    @jojithehomie7809 7 місяців тому +112

    It’s funny how Ryan still watches marvel shows only so he can keep making pitch meetings for them and I only watch marvel shows just so I can then watch the pitch meeting for them

    • @souptime821
      @souptime821 7 місяців тому +21

      I don't even watch the show lol

    • @prarambhaaryal6621
      @prarambhaaryal6621 7 місяців тому +7

      @@souptime821 true

    • @iambicpentakill971
      @iambicpentakill971 7 місяців тому +15

      The Pitch Meetings are great without them, save yourself the time

    • @jinksdalfang8843
      @jinksdalfang8843 7 місяців тому +5

      Pitch meetings and honest trailers are the only way i consume most things from disney

    • @jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      @jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 7 місяців тому +4

      He happens to watch them so the pitch meeting can happen.

  • @octavia458
    @octavia458 7 місяців тому +51

    I don’t watch Marvel shows... but i watch the pitch meetings! Thanks for taking many for the team.

  • @buttscarlton1490
    @buttscarlton1490 7 місяців тому +13

    The Happens joke is legendary. This pitch meeting was the first one of your videos i ever saw and that joke stood out then as much as now. You're a fantastic creator and we appreciate you!

  • @TrayTerra
    @TrayTerra 7 місяців тому +278

    I’m pretty sure this was my very first pitch meeting. Man…time always gets away doesn’t it.

    • @olegfare4625
      @olegfare4625 7 місяців тому +2

      mine too!

    • @TheCrawdaddy029
      @TheCrawdaddy029 7 місяців тому +2

      I dojt know what the first PM is i watched but it was most likely a star wars or MCU

    • @MyBiPolarBearMax
      @MyBiPolarBearMax 7 місяців тому +3

      Bury the past, kill it if you have to.

    • @cindyd.01
      @cindyd.01 7 місяців тому +3

      Mine was Cats 😂

    • @pjparkjd
      @pjparkjd 7 місяців тому

      My first Pitch Meeting was Coraline, and, to be honest, the only reason I still watch them is because I keep hoping to see another one as good as that one.

  • @doubleb1061
    @doubleb1061 7 місяців тому +43

    As someone who watches pitch meetings upside down, it feels good to finally be appreciated!

    • @prifax1995
      @prifax1995 7 місяців тому +2

      Have an upside-down thumps-up! 👎

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander 7 місяців тому +1

      @@prifax1995 😄 Edit: Sorry, I meant 🙃

  • @LeoJay
    @LeoJay 7 місяців тому +81

    Thank god Rey happens to be great at everything without training or anything! such a character of all times.

  • @carpemomenta6992
    @carpemomenta6992 7 місяців тому +4

    8:11
    "That glass of milk that they give to the guests, that would be too spicy for me"
    LMAO, that was one of the funniest lines I've heard Ryan say. I follow his other channels... That line was gold!

  • @twogunsnoammo8419
    @twogunsnoammo8419 7 місяців тому +154

    The string-of-coincidences joke is still valid. I can see how it may feel harsh in hindsight, but even if a few would be acceptable, there are SO MANY than lining them all up to mock them is both legit critique and funny.
    Love all your content

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +2

      Up yours woke moralists!! We'll see whom cancels whom!

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 7 місяців тому +3

      essentially, it's not a Star Wars movie.
      It's a JJ Abrams alternate timeline reboot done relatively well (for once), as a homage to "A new hope". A fan film that doesn't take itself seriously, but with the budget dialed up to 11.
      Of course, I don't consider it cannon, and the "string of coincidences" is a nod to Indiana Jones (the movie were Indy literally had no impact whatsoever).

    • @intraspec
      @intraspec 7 місяців тому +1

      I felt at the start, it was a bit nit-picky but as it went on, I felt it was justified.

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus 7 місяців тому +2

      I’d argue they’re part of the fun of a movie like this, but there are WAY dumber complaints about this trilogy as is so I’m going to pick my battles.

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +1

      @@LinkMarioSamus That's right woke moralist!! We'll see whom cancels whome!

  • @mercurialfunk2552
    @mercurialfunk2552 7 місяців тому +79

    This pitch meeting aged perfectly, good job.

  • @robphillips1797
    @robphillips1797 7 місяців тому +12

    Ryan, your pitch meetings STILL hold up. We enjoy the humor, but the insight and discernment is what is most compelling for me. Anybody can criticize a movie, but your funny vids work because they're true!

  • @fireant202
    @fireant202 7 місяців тому +6

    The delivery feels so different in this one. I feel like you can really see how your process has changed over the years.

  • @Covarr
    @Covarr 7 місяців тому +147

    The thing about plot conveniences like in the "happens" section is that even the best movies have one or two small ones. That's not a bad thing. It becomes a problem when there's several dozen of them. When the majority of the plot can be described as "so the movie can happen", that's a sign that the whole movie has kinda become one giant excuse for itself.
    So anyway I bet you can't make a pitch meeting of Matilda because it's too good.

    • @The8merp
      @The8merp 7 місяців тому +7

      exactly, movies can only be so long and the visual medium cannot do character thoughts, expo dumps the way books can, so a couple of plot conveniences are okay but it can't just be a never ending sequence of plot convenience after plot convenience like these star wars sequels

    • @sfurules
      @sfurules 7 місяців тому +2

      Hi Friend. I'd love to see him do a pitch meeting of Matilda, but he's said before that not all movies can be Pitched...there have to be things to make fun of in his wonderfully Canadian way, and there are just movies that are really good and don't have a lot of places of which one can make jest.

    • @Rebazar
      @Rebazar 7 місяців тому +2

      Most stories have several "plot contrivances", but when writing and production is good you become immersed enough to not notice them. Christopher Nolan is very good at this.

    • @Rebazar
      @Rebazar 7 місяців тому +2

      Subsequently, if your big takeaway from a story is that it's contrived, chances are the people who produced that story failed big somewhere.

    • @Covarr
      @Covarr 7 місяців тому

      @@sfurules Oh for sure, that's why I said I bet he can't. There's virtually nothing wrong with it to make fun of; it would make for a pretty terrible pitch meeting.

  • @TheElbowMerchant
    @TheElbowMerchant 7 місяців тому +87

    As a Muay Thai practitioner, I sincerely hoped that the TIE Fighter Ryan was drawing would be a photo realistic Thai fighter, but I will still accept the necktie fighter we got instead.

    • @justaguy105
      @justaguy105 7 місяців тому +1

      Sorry sir but you need to go back to joke school

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +2

      As a Mooee Thigh bagger, I was hoping you would answer me as to why my box smells like trash in the bee room every time post taco bell triple stuffed burrito night boy?

    • @TheElbowMerchant
      @TheElbowMerchant 7 місяців тому +1

      @jennyanydots2389 You may want to consult a medical professional about this matter, my friend.

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheElbowMerchant Makin' jokes at the expense of a gurlz box ain't right boy. A real man would apologize to me right now, but, we both know you won't, BOY!!!

    • @TheElbowMerchant
      @TheElbowMerchant 7 місяців тому

      @@jennyanydots2389 I apologize for replying to your comment about the smell of your box. I am, however, incredibly grateful for the laugh. And not personally having to have the olfactory experience related to said box.

  • @ConsciousStoner08
    @ConsciousStoner08 7 місяців тому +21

    As an Australian i feel very recognised by u shouting out you’re upside down viewers😂 ty🙌👏 but seriously plz keep making these videos, they make my day

  • @joshliam1967
    @joshliam1967 7 місяців тому +28

    That Ray Romano joke is fantastic I agree

  • @bigmitchy4026
    @bigmitchy4026 7 місяців тому +50

    criticising force awakens's coincidences is 100% valid. Generally you're allowed to have a couple coincidences as your inciting event to get the ball rolling, and every major coincidence from then on is a problem. That's not to say that having 1 big coincidence after the beginning automatically makes it bad, it depends on how big of a coincidence, how important it is to the story and how many of them you have. But TFA has so many coincidences that are literally astronomically unlikely, you probably only touched on half of them. You can have a lot of these plot points without them being huge coincidences, it just takes time and effort to fit all the pieces together in the writing room

  • @grahamgallacher4782
    @grahamgallacher4782 7 місяців тому +1

    Aww Ryan called himself a "little youtuber"... so humble... The appreciation for your can be seen across this vast tube-verse, good sir

  • @jeromeschmidt7805
    @jeromeschmidt7805 7 місяців тому

    Dude, this is great seeing your genuine critique after the pitch meetings, keep doing this!!!

  • @kitlc1
    @kitlc1 7 місяців тому +38

    Teen Ryan is so fresh-faced and adorable. He has no idea how many terrible movies await him.

  • @perceivedvelocity9914
    @perceivedvelocity9914 7 місяців тому +62

    That was a extremely accurate description of the movies plot and why the events of the movie happened. He deserves an A+ IMO.

  • @PaulPistore
    @PaulPistore 7 місяців тому +4

    You really nailed the SW 'reboot/just tell the same story' aspect of it. Not to mention the multiple deus ex machina coincidences littered throughout the movie.
    I never miss a pitch meeting. You are quite possibly my favorite UA-camr and comedian.

    • @LinkMarioSamus
      @LinkMarioSamus 7 місяців тому

      Most of the similarities are hardly endemic to Star Wars though. Admittedly I didn’t get the hype for the original trilogy until 2018 so maybe not the best to say.

  • @DoctorMadness
    @DoctorMadness 7 місяців тому

    Love hearing more about your journey man, love seeing your growth and excited to see where you go

  • @samwildstein2092
    @samwildstein2092 7 місяців тому +165

    The rule of thumb for coincidences is that they should only occur in the first act of the movie: it's okay for a contrivances to change the direction of the story or bring our characters together, but not to resolve the central problem on behalf of our characters. I think we can all agree improbable things do happen in real life, and a storyteller isn't responsible for an alternate timeline where some of the story didn't happen. Most of the coincidences in this movie are inoffensive on their own, but it becomes a problem when they only exist to set up another coincidence. As happenstance adds up, the characters lose agency in their story. That being said, it is not necessarily a coincidence for the story to grant our hero an unexpected reward for a choice made on their journey: a classic example would be the hero saving a stranger who happens to be able to help them in return.

    • @ankyfire
      @ankyfire 7 місяців тому +7

      Another way is to make coincidences the main drive of the story. Just make it about coincidences. Dirk Gently TV show did this marvelously

    • @samwildstein2092
      @samwildstein2092 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ankyfire I also love that Dirk Gently is impossible to spoil because every plot point sounds like nonsense

    • @GepardenK
      @GepardenK 7 місяців тому +13

      If you don't have a narrative or voice, but only plot points, then coincidences are what you end up with. The coincidences themselves aren't the problem; they're a symptom of something much more fundamental being wrong.

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander 7 місяців тому +7

      Exactly, coincidences should only be there to get the ball rolling. Take you out of the mundane existence. Not solve things in the new existence.

    • @blackjackjester
      @blackjackjester 7 місяців тому

      Point taken. Day to day life is when there isn't a set of circumstances or coincidences that happen. An adventure happens when a few things align to start a plot. As the movie is about the story, it's totally OK to start any story off with "so a bunch of things happened and that's how we got here".
      Any other happenstance should only occur when motivations and goals of various actors align. E.g. the emperor is moving a droid on a cargo ship, and there are a variety of interested parties who want that droid. This creates a nexus in which characters can intersect.

  • @Jason-ji8ql
    @Jason-ji8ql 7 місяців тому +51

    Just once, I want a Pitch Meeting where an "I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that," is immediately responded with, "No... No I don't think I will."

    • @Mibbitmaker
      @Mibbitmaker 7 місяців тому +6

      Or a "Hey, shut up" followed by an immediate, interrupting "No!" from the producer guy.

  • @infallibleblue
    @infallibleblue 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your experiences and doing these uploads. I really appreciate you!

  • @BlandoGaming
    @BlandoGaming 7 місяців тому +1

    Haha, that "tie fighter" at then got me real good. Well done. Also I love your work and hope you continue to make hilarious content for much time to come. (And I'll definitely watch the Pitch Meetings reboot/sequal in 20 years just for the grumpy old Producer Guy cameo.)

  • @voltmusicstudios5260
    @voltmusicstudios5260 7 місяців тому +94

    I thought I would get sick of the catchphrases, but after years of watching pitch meetings they still make me laugh. No one can say "it's super easy" in our house without some else saying "barely an inconvenience". Its like you just can't not say it. Love your work!

    • @Lavonne9870
      @Lavonne9870 7 місяців тому +6

      Oh, really?!

    • @dadadadave9652
      @dadadadave9652 7 місяців тому +1

      I love how your whole family's in on it, nice!

    • @Blz8
      @Blz8 5 місяців тому +1

      It's barely an inconvenience for them you could say

    • @Calvinosaur
      @Calvinosaur 5 місяців тому +3

      Having a family that references Pitch Meeting is tight.

    • @voltmusicstudios5260
      @voltmusicstudios5260 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Calvinosaur I see what you did there wow wow wow wow.... ..wow

  • @NerdyVet.
    @NerdyVet. 7 місяців тому +24

    The 'character arc' line was so on point hahaha

  • @topherleon
    @topherleon 5 місяців тому

    the message you gave at the end of this video about your journey was just the message i needed to hear today. thank you dude. you and your content is so awesome.

  • @kenshi_wins
    @kenshi_wins 7 місяців тому +2

    Would you please please please please do a pitch meeting for either the Scream ‘requel’ or the newest ‘requel sequel?’ Those movies deserve it so hard. Thanks for existing and giving us pitch meetings btw. It’s something I look forward to every week of my life.

  • @alexbanks8429
    @alexbanks8429 7 місяців тому +3

    6:28 at this moment I had stood up to go get something, and had looked back and was literally watching the video upside down. I really appreciate the gesture.

  • @bishopcorva
    @bishopcorva 7 місяців тому +13

    That's one of if not the absolute most accurate depiction of a tie fighter I've ever seen anywhere. The world is better now for it. Thank you Ryan, ten thousand times, thank you.
    Watched for the movie savaging, and stayed for the drawing. Commentary for the laugh it brought.

  • @victoriasowa2396
    @victoriasowa2396 7 місяців тому +9

    Love your pitch meetings and personal channel! My question: have you ever faced unexpected audience backlash from a pitch meeting? If so, which/how?

  • @petermcguire4769
    @petermcguire4769 7 місяців тому

    Love the Tie-Fighter. I also don't think I ever watched the original video, so I'm glad you revisited this.

  • @mpjdrizzt
    @mpjdrizzt 7 місяців тому +79

    NO!! It was NOT a bit harsh! It was spot on! Well done then, and more so now! This is one of the many things that you do that make your pitch meetings so enjoyable! Thanks, and keep them coming!

  • @bman1235
    @bman1235 7 місяців тому +33

    You have grown so much since this video. Your humor and personalities for the two characters have grown tenfold.

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews 7 місяців тому +4

      Ya. It seemed like both characters were the same person. 🤔 And by that, I mean they acted the same. In the newer ones, they each have a much different personality. 😀🤨

    • @theMLBfan
      @theMLBfan 7 місяців тому +2

      Nah, the old ones were so much better. The new ones are a little too over the top.

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews 7 місяців тому +1

      @@theMLBfan To me it seems like the old ones, he's just reading a teleprompter. The new ones he's acting as a character. Maybe somewhat over the top, but it is for comedy effect.

  • @user-fm6mk6yw6o
    @user-fm6mk6yw6o 7 місяців тому +1

    Love your videos Ryan! To the viewers they all live up to the time you put them out. It kind of puts us back to the time the movie was put out.

  • @LaurindaBellinger
    @LaurindaBellinger 7 місяців тому

    Wow, didn't know you had videos going back this far. My first Pitch Meeting video was Rings of Power - I don't think that's a year old. That video still cracks me up.

  • @tigerlep9
    @tigerlep9 7 місяців тому +5

    8:20 "Tie Fighter" LOOOOL

  • @ryanmoeck7826
    @ryanmoeck7826 7 місяців тому +34

    Man I miss this producer guy. The more serious vibe gives the stupid decisions more comedy.
    Also his "I'm listening" is an underrated response.

  • @TheDoctorShun
    @TheDoctorShun 6 місяців тому

    Woah why was it so real to hear him answer the questions so candidly

  • @jamesc5801
    @jamesc5801 7 місяців тому +9

    I honestly watch alot of your pitch meetings instead on the shows. You are doing us all a great community service sir. We appreciate your selfless act.

  • @haroldcrick9653
    @haroldcrick9653 7 місяців тому +32

    Hey Ryan. I like hearing your perspective on your old jokes from ancient pitches. You often include these already, but I hope I speak for lots of fans when I say the more commentary, the better! I also loved the Raymond joke.

  • @Tikuros
    @Tikuros 7 місяців тому +10

    Absolutely loved the coincidences compilation. Putting these next to each other is the best summary of the unquestionable silliness of that movie

  • @yahshuah144
    @yahshuah144 5 місяців тому +1

    This was my first pitch meeting and then I was forever hooked!

  • @chadreese9501
    @chadreese9501 3 місяці тому

    I really enjoy these revisits!! Hope to see more!

  • @tbone6032
    @tbone6032 7 місяців тому +6

    The whole hot ones bit was amazing and “that glass of milk was too spicy for me” is maybe my favorite joke ever. Died at it.

  • @ravenmorrigana1093
    @ravenmorrigana1093 7 місяців тому +4

    My favorite part of these Revisits is seeing the growth of the characters and Ryan's skills.

  • @1Mutton1
    @1Mutton1 5 місяців тому

    Loved seeing this and how pitch meeting has evolved over the years. Much more sharp these days......for my best effort in coming up with a better word.
    You are a legend mate. love it.

  • @jackflash8218
    @jackflash8218 7 місяців тому +2

    The Stormtroopers bit... one of the best written, best delivered things you've ever done! Fk'n amazing stuff.
    Also, the Joey Fatone thing absolutely killed me! Well done!

  • @lacygood5873
    @lacygood5873 7 місяців тому +1

    These "Pitch Meetings" are the greatest! If I may quote Rocko from "Boondock Saints"..."Don't ever stop!!"

  • @OnionTheBat
    @OnionTheBat 7 місяців тому +25

    You're kind of the only channel I have notifications turned on for and it's always the typical "babe stop what you're doing, ryan and george have a new video up" kinda situation.

    • @eljuicy.
      @eljuicy. 7 місяців тому +1

      Wow wow wow...wow

    • @kfiraltberger552
      @kfiraltberger552 7 місяців тому

      My favorite duo, Producer Guy ("Ryan") and Screenwriter Guy ("George")

    • @pap-fr
      @pap-fr 7 місяців тому

      Same. No other channel do I watch their videos immediately

  • @raulfuenzalida7152
    @raulfuenzalida7152 7 місяців тому +9

    Loved the tie fighter haha

  • @arliejefferson
    @arliejefferson 7 місяців тому +1

    I think your character portrayals and your timing has improved a lot over the years.

  • @jakefoxx7978
    @jakefoxx7978 7 місяців тому

    That tie fighter at the end is amazing, thank you Ryan

  • @heathjohnson2575
    @heathjohnson2575 7 місяців тому +6

    You have definitely gotten much better over time. Watching an old video like this then a new one right after you can definitely tell a difference. You are awesome 👍

  • @telemachus7732
    @telemachus7732 7 місяців тому +5

    You work so hard on these videos!
    I think a good comic has to relate to the audience more than have great one - liners.
    We all are having it tough these days, and your work definitely cuts down on the confusion we all feel , but do not express when we watch these movies.
    Thank You!
    And your catch phrases are hilarious! Please do a pitch meeting about some of the 90’s crap movies like “ Stuart Little” and other mind - numbing feely films.

  • @mathmannix
    @mathmannix 7 місяців тому

    Wow, that was an amazingly detailed TIE fighter! Thanks, Ryan!

  • @LOrealHardly
    @LOrealHardly 7 місяців тому

    Never, ever cringe at what you have done in the past Ryan. They are not cringe they are the scars of learning. I'm a huge fan, I love your work. keep feeding me :D

  • @mitchellkoch3065
    @mitchellkoch3065 7 місяців тому +26

    I think any one of those plot contrivances would merit its own “so the movie can happen” side joke, so the way to maximize their funniness and not waste any is to rattle them off like you did.
    “Rey just happens to…” is probably the most said thing in that writers’ room

    • @prestonburnett5410
      @prestonburnett5410 7 місяців тому

      Somehow Palpatine returned.

    • @FlatOnHisFace
      @FlatOnHisFace 6 місяців тому

      He just happened to feel like being alive again, he decided.

  • @TheOneSoulMate_
    @TheOneSoulMate_ 7 місяців тому +9

    It was pretty fantastic. The coincidence thing was genius. It had me rolling so hard. Omg, you went off in that section. I can’t disagree with you either. That’s what made it so funny. That video still holds up. Love your channel.

  • @MrStringybark
    @MrStringybark 7 місяців тому

    I'm in that age group these old stars are now part of, and it's terrific for me in one particular way. As in, it had just occurred to me while watching this video that I didn't recall watching it beforehand.
    Hey, that's terrific I thought, now I can watch this Pitch Meeting over and over again, and all I have to do is wait a few months' time and it's brand new again.

  • @jamesmatthew01
    @jamesmatthew01 7 місяців тому +7

    The thought of ray romano face on rey would make it actually worth watching, especially if they make it his voice

  • @HDKorp4725
    @HDKorp4725 7 місяців тому +3

    My wife and I absolutely love your Pitch Meetings. It's hysterical how on point you are with the common tropes. Do you have any plans on doing any Pitch Meetings for older movies from prior decades? For instance... Leathal Weapon, Superman (1978), Star Trek, or some other movie series.

  • @fredcastro4252
    @fredcastro4252 7 місяців тому

    You´re a freaking genius man! I´m from Brazil and so happen to have american relatives and so happen to have studied english and so happen to know what you´re talking about and so happen to laugh at your humor and the way you present reality to us all.

  • @jennifere.pergola598
    @jennifere.pergola598 7 місяців тому

    Another insightful and entertaining video - the unexpected cherry on top was the literal tie fighter picture at the end 😆.

  • @harktriton9324
    @harktriton9324 7 місяців тому +7

    Hallo Ryan, the question I'm most curious about is how your voice transformation came along, in old pitch meetings you talk in a much more normal way which I assume is closer to your actual voice, but over the years it gradually became the happy dopey cartoonish voice that we now know and love, what was your thought process behind that?

    • @Grasslander
      @Grasslander 7 місяців тому +3

      Actually the dopey cartoonish voice is his normal voice, he was just toning it down for us

    • @harktriton9324
      @harktriton9324 7 місяців тому

      @@Grasslander now I'm just imagining Ryan in normal life situations talking like that lol, gets pulled over by a cop, "Soo you have a ticket for mee?"

  • @drummondaikman
    @drummondaikman 7 місяців тому +4

    One of your best. Ray Romano and BB8 are killer. Ever thought of doing a flashback pitch meeting, like to earlier versions of the characters. Might be fun.

  • @donfisherjr.2404
    @donfisherjr.2404 7 місяців тому +1

    Love your pitch meetings Ryan! "So the movie can happen" is often the reason behind the plots of the average movie now.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 6 місяців тому

      Once is fine; it's kind of like the old adage that science fiction should never have more than one 'impossible' technology; _maybe_ two if your FTL drive can do nothing beyond moving things between stars. This is because it's hard to have a comprehensible plot when it's hard to wrap your mind around what characters can do; it's both more difficult for the author to create the plot and for the audience to follow it.

  • @enzi87
    @enzi87 7 місяців тому

    Love your videos, thank you so much for the content!

  • @leahl5007
    @leahl5007 7 місяців тому +2

    This guy’s out here making all kinds of quality content!

  • @myoman1977
    @myoman1977 7 місяців тому +6

    I like the newer tone where the producer and writer are manically happy and pleased with themselves

  • @Aballa9922
    @Aballa9922 7 місяців тому +4

    I love your videos Ryan, they are witty and the jokes are not cheap, they are actually well thought through and deserved 🎉 why don’t you do pitch meetings for older movies

  • @wheeledgoat
    @wheeledgoat 6 місяців тому

    Your tie fighter drawing far exceeded my expectations. Bravo sir.

  • @hjsong99
    @hjsong99 7 місяців тому +32

    I never fully appreciated how much Ryan is taking one on the chin for the rest of us by continuing to watch Marvel products. Thank you for your sacrifice.

  • @Shadbraw
    @Shadbraw 7 місяців тому +50

    Dang, Ryan has changed how he does pitch meetings quite a bit since he did this one!

  • @LeightonFitch
    @LeightonFitch 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi Ryan! Your videos are hilarious keep up the good work! So I was wondering, are you still making pitch meetings for older classic movies and/or TV shows or have you mostly been focusing on newer stuff?

  • @kevinkingsland1039
    @kevinkingsland1039 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey Ryan, it was great seeing Producer Guy and Screenwriter Guy on Zoran's Kill Count for Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash over on Dead Meat this weekend.
    Kinda makes me wonder if we'll be seeing any new Pitch Meetings for horror movies in the lead up to Halloween. Maybe a movie with a lot of kills that would need counting?
    James and / or Zoran might "Be Good People" to lend a hand to Producer Guy or Writer Guy if such a task is needed...

  • @danielb8860
    @danielb8860 7 місяців тому +10

    Hi Ryan. I absolutely love your videos. You make me laugh all the time so thank you. I have two questions for you.
    Question 1: When doing pitch’s for book adaptations, do you ever read the books in order to gain a greater understanding of the story?
    Question 2: a couple of years ago, a UA-camr called the Nostalgia Critic did a parody of your pitch meetings in his review of Alien 3. I was wondering if you had seen his parody and if so, what you thought of it.

    • @pianotm
      @pianotm 7 місяців тому

      Critic spoofed Ryan? I want to see it, but his videos are so long...I'm sorry, but I refuse to watch a review as long as the movie.

    • @danielb8860
      @danielb8860 7 місяців тому +1

      @@pianotm it’s only like the first three minutes.

  • @MrFG813
    @MrFG813 7 місяців тому +12

    I'd love to see a Pitch Meeting for Speed Racer. Or perhaps The Addams Family movies with Raul Julia and Angelica Huston

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 7 місяців тому +3

      Or oh my god Street Fighter.

    • @mattyt1961
      @mattyt1961 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Mopark25 it just needs 2 words... Stealth Boat

    • @MckieDs595
      @MckieDs595 7 місяців тому +2

      There's no flaw with Speed Racer. That movie is perfect in every way. It's a movie that's bad upon first viewing, but as time passes, you realize it's ludicrously perfection. 😂😂

  • @astrapsy
    @astrapsy 7 місяців тому +2

    Just letting you know the pitch meeting is legendary, and perfect even after so many years.

  • @sarakajira
    @sarakajira 7 місяців тому

    I actually thought the "which happens to..." joke was the best part of that, because it's so true. I think you would deliver that joke better in a current video but I think it was pretty hilarious, especially because it just keeps going and going lol!

  • @Balderdash1000
    @Balderdash1000 7 місяців тому +3

    Now I expected the actual tie for the tie fighter, but I did not expect the nunchucks!