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  • Step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power!
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    Amazon Studios decided to step up their game a few years ago by spending something like 250 million dollars on the rights to make a Lord of the Rings TV show. And then to make sure it was really good they spent another 750 million on production. So there you have it. One billion dollars! Instant classic, guaranteed! Right? That’s how it works, right?
    The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power definitely raises some questions. Like why is Galadriel so invincible and powerful? What were the odds of her stumbling upon Sauron in the middle of the ocean? Was she really just planning on swimming across an ocean to get home? Are volcanic eruptions not a huge deal? What was with that weird Rube Goldberg set-up at Mordor?
    To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to the The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power!
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  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey67 Рік тому +26455

    Watching the pitch meeting rather than the actual show is tight

    • @SmiteThatButton
      @SmiteThatButton Рік тому +464

      So much faster too

    • @capthavic
      @capthavic Рік тому +896

      It's super easy, barely an inconvenience :)

    • @AnitreaSadi
      @AnitreaSadi Рік тому +106

      Hahhahahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!! This comment was great.

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm Рік тому +240

      A lot of the time the pitch meeting even makes the source not sound as bad. But this time it couldn't help at all.

    • @TheGuyAcrossSpace
      @TheGuyAcrossSpace Рік тому +79

      It sure is sir!

  • @femkev.5245
    @femkev.5245 Рік тому +7426

    "Young and immature" Galadriel is actually the oldest elf in the show, which the writers conveniently seemed to have forgotten in their desires to portray her as an arrogant youth

    • @maxpower3990
      @maxpower3990 Рік тому +1087

      I mean she is only about 5000 years old, saw the birth of the Sun and Moon and spent centuries being mentored by a Mair. An angelic being similar in power and knowledge to Sauron or Gandalf.

    • @claudewinters2091
      @claudewinters2091 Рік тому +271

      @@maxpower3990 That's still a young teen girl in ROP .... Or an old looking dude... I just don't even know .... In order to enjoy the show ... The only recourse was to ignore sense .. and just say ok at everything even when practically everyone survived pyroclastic ash to the face & body ...
      It is but a scratch... After all

    • @NathanSlaymaker
      @NathanSlaymaker Рік тому +259

      @@maxpower3990 And many of the years she grew up in were Valian years, which were Much longer longer than Solar years.

    • @johnmihelis1699
      @johnmihelis1699 Рік тому +171

      Isn't she like, literally, one of the first elves ever created?
      I seem to recall she was one of the Eldar, the first generation of elves created in Vallinor

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Рік тому +11

      Thousands of years old, and still a bratty arrogant teenager... I think the wokies are projecting a lot.

  • @All_Good_Things
    @All_Good_Things 7 місяців тому +1383

    Galadrial jumping off the boat and then planning on swimming 3000 miles in a dress with no food,water or sleep then accidentally bumping into sauron half way across is so absolutely ridiculous that i can't believe someone actually signed off on it and was like yeah that will work

    • @yukie_tn
      @yukie_tn 4 місяці тому +81

      This was where I knew I was watching something special... specially bad, that is.

    • @Norvik_-ug3ge
      @Norvik_-ug3ge 4 місяці тому +44

      Galadriel in Quenya literally means Great Blonde Shark Lady 😊

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 4 місяці тому +55

      Let's think about it logically.
      Galadriel is a witch.
      🧙‍♀️-->🔥. 🪵-->🔥. Thus, 🧙‍♀️ is made of🪵. 🧙‍♀️~⛵️.
      Thus, Galadriel traversing vast stretches of ocean is logical.

    • @thedude3065
      @thedude3065 4 місяці тому +35

      It’s so anti-Tolkien

    • @cosandreas9414
      @cosandreas9414 4 місяці тому +2

      So you have an issue with this, but not with magical rings, elves, I big eye in the sky and the fact that Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli ran for three days without stopping when chasing after Merry and Pippin? Wtf?
      Gives a new meaning to selective rage...
      Also Galadriel had a much tougher time reaching middle earth in the first place crossing the Helcaraxe.

  • @juliawolf156
    @juliawolf156 Рік тому +4437

    So let me get this straight: Guy slams sword into wall which activates a machine to flood an area with water. The machine ends up flooding the tunnels the orks dug. But that also causes a volcano to explode which is the birth of Mordor.
    Are you sure this chain of events wasn't caused by a prehistoric squirrel trying to hide an acorn?

    • @lancecarlisle1749
      @lancecarlisle1749 Рік тому +561

      When you can compare LOTR to Scrat from Ice Age with any degree of seriousness, you know something's gone horribly wrong with your script.

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Рік тому

      @@lancecarlisle1749
      **swats you firmly on the nose**
      NO. This is NOT LOTR. LOTR is the Peter jackson masterpiece. This pile of absolute dribble is Rings of Poop I mean Power, an abomination of Amazons making.

    • @grocksauce7422
      @grocksauce7422 11 місяців тому +104

      garbage, isn’t it

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 11 місяців тому +91

      The tunnels and trenches dug channeled the water into the molten core (not THE Molten Core, and the fiery Balrog actually lives in a deep crevice among the roots of the Elven power tree), so the explosive evaporation of all that water somehow didn't cool the mountain or made it exhaust steam but made it shoot lava cannon balls and cover the land in an avalanche of fiery dust that Galadriel saw no reason to hide from, and I assumed because of her guilt and wanting to die, but the other villagers didn't matter to her; nothing new there. She even had the same overconfident, self-absorbed copypaste hero face when it happened.
      Oh and air filled with smoke makes one or two people cought once, but most of them are heavy smokers, especially the people with plot armor.
      And the queen was surprise-to-everyone (mostly, later completely) blinded and had to ask when the smoke will pass to shoehorn a lame surprise also pushed along by totally not using your common eye VFX to indicate it but her eyes were clear and crisp all the time and yet for some reason she had cataract symptoms. Because applying eye VFX was either too expensive (ha-ha) or would have ruined that genius surprise scene of her blindness being revealed.

    • @SubjectDelta20
      @SubjectDelta20 11 місяців тому +62

      I heard most tree's on earth today we're planted from squirrels burying their nuts and forgetting where they buried them.

  • @32shumble
    @32shumble Рік тому +5529

    I thought Galadriel was going to turn out to be Sauron. She had all the character traits.

    • @somerandolad
      @somerandolad Рік тому +346

      That would've been a better twist.

    • @wateim3951
      @wateim3951 Рік тому +54

      wait for season 2

    • @rubensoeteman
      @rubensoeteman Рік тому +189

      Sauron being a shapeshifter in the lore, it is definitely possible as an actual twist.

    • @32shumble
      @32shumble Рік тому +224

      @@rubensoeteman Yes, perhaps the real Galadriel will be released from some sort of prison somewhere and turn out not to be a b*****h at all?

    • @Kerbezena
      @Kerbezena Рік тому +12

      That's actually an insult to Annatar / Artano / Aulendil.

  • @Sapeidra
    @Sapeidra Рік тому +6482

    Actually super nice from Amazon to put 1 billion into the show, so that Ryan can put this entertaining 7 minute video together, which is clearly the only and intended purpose of the whole project.

  • @derkeheath5172
    @derkeheath5172 8 місяців тому +388

    The audacity of a bunch of nobody Hollywood writers literally saying, "Tolkien wasn't a very good writer, so we decided to do our own thing."

    • @handrii2958
      @handrii2958 8 місяців тому +50

      Yeah it very outrages, a nobody writers comparing themself to Mr. Tolkien a scholar and professor of English Language and Literature at the prestige Oxford University, with ability to master 14 different languages, and wrote a completly fictional system of languange.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom Місяць тому +9

      Not Hollywood writers. Amazon is in Seattle. The show was filmed in New Zealand. Heck, this is the show runners first thing they were ever credited with. It just seems Jeff Bezos was blowing a billion just for funsies.

    • @The_Reductionist
      @The_Reductionist Місяць тому +4

      They did the same with wheel of time. Its a difference story using the same title and character names.

    • @rtr01
      @rtr01 6 днів тому +1

      The wheel of time dragged on at one point but the show oh man the show was so bland, and pacing was ridiculous.

    • @vfvs11a
      @vfvs11a 3 дні тому +1

      I'll say what everyone is avoiding saying, they don't care about the source material, just wearing it as a skin suit for woke proselytization.

  • @jessehamm3573
    @jessehamm3573 Рік тому +713

    "Hey, shut up!" is pretty much the only answer the showrunners have for the 8 billion plotholes in this series.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 10 місяців тому +15

      Tolkien drew from history because he's an historian,but people piss on him and fantasy as a legit genre because "fantasy should have no Basis in real world,it's for stupid kids."

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 9 місяців тому

      And how many bee wholes?

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 4 місяці тому +16

      Hey! Don't make fun of the showrunners. Their wikipedia page says they are super accomplished young directors in their mid 40s, known for writing a script for Star Trek: Beyond that was ultimately rejected and their work on a Flash remake that nobody plans to make... 😂😂😂😂
      No, but seriously... One of them is probably Bezos's illegitimate son.

    • @nathanmorgan3647
      @nathanmorgan3647 4 місяці тому

      Oh, please, "Shut up" isn't their only answer. They also like to throw out the ol' "you're just an ultra right-wing racist scumbag" too.

  • @qjames0077
    @qjames0077 Рік тому +4648

    I've been waiting for this to drop longer than it took for Galadriel to figure out who Halbrand was

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne Рік тому +18

      Same

    • @illumi9044
      @illumi9044 Рік тому +31

      Lmao 😂To be fair, I didn’t realize either…

    • @shpreenten
      @shpreenten Рік тому +65

      It was obvious from the first episode!

    • @53prime
      @53prime Рік тому +6

      @@illumi9044 same

    • @woodside4life
      @woodside4life Рік тому

      Awwww snap!!!

  • @e.1165
    @e.1165 Рік тому +4117

    I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this Pitch Meeting.

    • @ibrahimjaved5574
      @ibrahimjaved5574 Рік тому +108

      Hmmm why shouldn't I watch it again?

    • @phimseto
      @phimseto Рік тому +112

      It is a gift!

    • @makani9004
      @makani9004 Рік тому +73

      There was definitely a tempest in me.

    • @whitegoose2017
      @whitegoose2017 Рік тому +34

      @@makani9004 THERE IS A HURRICANE IN ME THAT WILL STRIP AMAZON BARE

    • @GCEXTREMEMN
      @GCEXTREMEMN Рік тому +86

      In the place of a great movie you will have a horrible tv series, as lame as milk, and you will need to get aaaall the way off my back about its cost

  • @ClaireMarieSpencer
    @ClaireMarieSpencer Рік тому +1257

    "The elves need this stuff or they're gonna die"
    "Why"
    "Because they'll die if they don't get it"
    "Oh, alright."
    I am 1000% sure this exchange actually happened in the real pitch meeting.

    • @jessehamm3573
      @jessehamm3573 Рік тому +27

      I'm 1000% in agreement.

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 11 місяців тому +57

      That episode was where I decided I just couldn't anymore. Elves, whose immortality and immunity to disease are an absolute pillar of Tolkien's worldbuilding, are dying because someone's Screenwriting 101 class told them they needed CONFLICT AND SUSPENSE, DAMMIT!!! And Mithril is some sort of magical love-child of a Balrog getting jiggy with a tree in a lightning storm--I didn't know metals needed origin stories. Can't wait for the ROP writers to give us the sordid tale of where tin comes from!

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek 10 місяців тому +15

      ​@@partyboi8773we could probably write a thesis about why the Mithril plot line Is basically blasphemous 😂

    • @themarsh429
      @themarsh429 7 місяців тому

      Are we sure Ryan didn't actually pitch this one himself?

    • @elyaskiritsis3115
      @elyaskiritsis3115 7 місяців тому +7

      Technically Elves were dying. But it had nothing to do with mithril. It had to do with the defeat of evil lessening the magic in Middle Earth.
      The longer they live, the more their soul gets frayed and torn.

  • @SnootchieBootchies27
    @SnootchieBootchies27 Рік тому +931

    Seems like Sauron could have accrued more power by just hanging out with Galadriel and having her tell people that he's in charge now.

    • @xdevantx5870
      @xdevantx5870 Рік тому +64

      To be fair, Sauron basically does propose that to her and her response is basically "you're evil and you killed my brother" and he's confused and like "That's a problem? Oh well" then drowns her in a river and leaves.

    • @wolfiewoo3371
      @wolfiewoo3371 Рік тому +35

      @@xdevantx5870 Why didn't he finish the job?

    • @kyfetrombetta3691
      @kyfetrombetta3691 11 місяців тому +56

      @@wolfiewoo3371 Season 2 i guess

    • @wolfiewoo3371
      @wolfiewoo3371 11 місяців тому +15

      @@kyfetrombetta3691 That's not a good reason.

    • @matthiaswelzel8447
      @matthiaswelzel8447 11 місяців тому +51

      ​@@wolfiewoo3371 You misspelled season.

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat3493 Рік тому +6569

    Ryan has an uncanny ability to both mock, while giving a completely accurate plot synopsis.

    • @jonathannieves1000
      @jonathannieves1000 Рік тому +324

      Hardly counts as mocking when he's just saying exactly what happened in the show 😂

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 Рік тому +173

      @@jonathannieves1000 lol. IKR? This is one of the most spot on and yet hilarious pitch meetings, and he really didn’t do anything. You don’t have to change or embellish a thing.

    • @30noir
      @30noir Рік тому +48

      That's kind of easy nowadays.

    • @S....
      @S.... Рік тому +19

      True, even when it feels like your comment is not well placed, since mocking this particular show is so easy.

    • @reezlaw
      @reezlaw Рік тому +72

      Some plots mock themselves

  • @TheeDawson
    @TheeDawson Рік тому +956

    Making Middle Earth feel like a small town where you can just bump into key characters at any point is tight!

    • @rossboedy8456
      @rossboedy8456 Рік тому +47

      bumping randomly to what is obviously the main antagonist in the ocean is tight!

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +34

      You'd have more trouble bumping into the right person you just need at that moment even in a small hamlet. But I guess oceans aren't that big.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Рік тому +8

      Oh god they’re becoming Disney.

    • @TheeDawson
      @TheeDawson Рік тому +24

      @@kaltaron1284 bro Oceans are Famously small

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 Рік тому +6

      To be fair that's literally all of the books too, it's a bit of a fantasy trope

  • @MrSeniorwaffles
    @MrSeniorwaffles 8 місяців тому +89

    The plot of galadriels being mad about her brother being dead is so dumb, especially since elves don't actually die when they die in middle earth their spirit gets returned to valinor and is eventually given form again. So galadriels brother was probably just chilling in valinor waiting for his sister to come back and see him just to hear she jumped off the boat in the middle of the ocean for some reason

    • @nathanmorgan3647
      @nathanmorgan3647 4 місяці тому +24

      Not probably, he literally was fast-tracked to rebirth for his role in saving the man Beren, leading ultimately to Morgoth's downfall and is alive and reunited with his wife in Valinor during this period.

  • @nikoteardrop4904
    @nikoteardrop4904 10 місяців тому +663

    Turning the over 6' tall and ethereally majestic Galadriel into a tiny angry lady is tight!

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 7 місяців тому +92

      Super easy, barely an incompetence.

    • @david7384
      @david7384 4 місяці тому +39

      tiny angry ladies are tight!

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 3 місяці тому +7

      I just kinda pretended that she was a different Galadriel the whole time, then it’s fine,

    • @MollyHJohns
      @MollyHJohns 3 місяці тому +13

      ​@@MrJimheeren not a different Galadriel. Simply Not-Galadriel.

    • @relrond6111
      @relrond6111 3 місяці тому

      She's 6'4

  • @peytondoss405
    @peytondoss405 Рік тому +1815

    That quick dismissive “ Hey shut up “ always gets me 😂 😂😂😂

    • @segments2156
      @segments2156 Рік тому +3

      i loved the show, and i loved the pitch meeting... however, the "hey shut up" was misplaced, because there is a good reason why they know exactly where to go... Sauron/Halbrand is with them and he knows Adar's plan.

    • @99baji99
      @99baji99 Рік тому +1

      -no it's not!-

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 Рік тому +18

      I love the "Actually it's gonna by super easy, barely an inconvenience"😂

    • @Danntheman1776
      @Danntheman1776 Рік тому +2

      @@segments2156 hey shut up

    • @logansaxby7224
      @logansaxby7224 Рік тому +2

      @SEGMENTS how does it feel defending a piece of shit? Cause curious 🤨

  • @forbiddencroisant
    @forbiddencroisant Рік тому +1761

    Randomly finding Sauron in the middle of a giant ocean is apparently super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • @noctuammagic1260
      @noctuammagic1260 Рік тому +26

      Well same goes for a lot of things in Tolkien. Bilbo falling to the exact place in goblin town where gollum(who happened to be fishing in the exact place of the river where the one ring fell) lives, who happens to have the ring, which happens to have the exact power a burglar like Bilbo will need in the future. Tolkien is full of weird coincidences if you look closely. This is not exclusive to RoP.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +82

      Surviving pyroclastic flows is also super easy, barely an inconvenience. Someone should have told queeny to close her eyes though.

    • @LizardSpork
      @LizardSpork Рік тому +57

      Sauron randomly meeting Galadriel in the middle of the ocean and then eventually being led to the exact set of circumstances he needed to forge the rings is even tighter.

    • @forbiddencroisant
      @forbiddencroisant Рік тому +57

      @@noctuammagic1260 that's fine and all, but what the heck was Galadriel's plan?? Swim across the entire ocean??

    • @monikasuszek3434
      @monikasuszek3434 Рік тому +25

      @@kaltaron1284 too bad the Pompeians didn’t know about that 😢

  • @198EE4
    @198EE4 10 місяців тому +870

    “Is she planning to swim back to Middle Earth? Hah hah”
    “Ha. Yeah, that’s the plan.”
    “Oh my god you’re serious.”
    That was fairly close to my reaction when I first watched it.

    • @fullmetalprism5249
      @fullmetalprism5249 8 місяців тому +23

      That’s Guyladriel for ya 😂😂😂😂

    • @therotten6152
      @therotten6152 8 місяців тому

      Question is, was she trying to commit suicide, or was she just so dim that she thought she'd be able to make it? It's one of the 2, there is no 3rd option. @@fullmetalprism5249

    • @ghyslainabel
      @ghyslainabel 7 місяців тому +21

      This is why Google had to remove the "swim across the Atlantic ocean" joke from Google Map, Amazon Galadriel was stupid enough to try it.

    • @rogueascendant6611
      @rogueascendant6611 7 місяців тому +18

      It was written that swimming from Middle Earth to Valinor and vice versa is not possible.
      During the First and Second Age, no one was dumb enough to do that.
      The distance between the two continents is the same distance of traveling from Spain to New York. Not even the Elves themselves can survive for too long.

    • @TJRymer89
      @TJRymer89 5 місяців тому +5

      Whoa whoa whoa!... You *watched* it?

  • @mashpotatoes3018
    @mashpotatoes3018 Рік тому +1999

    That pitch meeting was SO much better than the actual show.

    • @vipr1142
      @vipr1142 Рік тому +38

      Hah it really was. Actually better written than the series lol

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 Рік тому +28

      If hes telling the truth of what happens in the show, good God its got to be horrible

    • @sgtGiggsy
      @sgtGiggsy Рік тому +35

      To be factual, about 90% of Pitch Meetings are better than the shows/movies they are about.

    • @pmason6076
      @pmason6076 10 місяців тому +8

      A lot more thought went into the writing for sure!

    • @DarrellTurnerJr
      @DarrellTurnerJr 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@jamesknapp64he speaks truth

  • @AtlantaGuns
    @AtlantaGuns Рік тому +906

    Sauron telling Celebrimbor to mix metals is like me telling Gordon Ramsay to add salt 🤣

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +81

      Celembrimbor was portrayed as an idiot sandwich though.

    • @vsGoliath96
      @vsGoliath96 Рік тому +50

      Also loving that the elves already had the idea to make the rings before Sauron even showed up.

    • @TurinTuramber
      @TurinTuramber Рік тому +62

      Yes but only if Gordon Ramsay had been a great chef for millennia instead of 20years.

    • @sauros1
      @sauros1 Рік тому +29

      I'm surprised they didn't have galadriel give him the tip instead.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 Рік тому +45

      "Have you tried turning it on and off yet?"

  • @waylander9265
    @waylander9265 Рік тому +1511

    The amount of opportunities to say “super easy barely an inconvenience” this show offers is staggering

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +15

      Probably at least one per episode.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico Рік тому +69

      - Woah, it's gonna be hard to fail at one of the widest known, most universally loved franchises in history, when we also have the biggest budget ever.
      - Actually...

    • @fredbyoutubing
      @fredbyoutubing Рік тому +2

      A bit like Aragorn just happening to stumble into an army of ghosts that answers only to him because he's wielding a blade that was reforged and given to him right before?

    • @claudewinters2091
      @claudewinters2091 Рік тому +82

      @@fredbyoutubing uhmmm no... The ghost army was known to exist for hundreds of years and only the king to be could summon them. It wasn't accidental or just happened... It was a well known story for the elves, dwarves and Rohirim ... So I don't understand your point

    • @hexcodeff6624
      @hexcodeff6624 Рік тому +6

      @@fredbyoutubing That only counts as one

  • @caseybv74
    @caseybv74 Рік тому +256

    Me at the start of the season: That's not Gandalf that would be too stupid.
    Me in the middle of the season: Yup this show is dumb enough, that's Gandalf.

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 Рік тому +45

      Yep, I realized very quickly the writers never even read the silmarillion... In the books, Gandalf comes in on a boat and basically starts off his journey where it ends at the end of lord of the rings, also gets given one of the rings of power over Saruman (a small slight which builds over the centuries and is a slight foreshadowing of their eventual clash in LotR's), both of these things were well written and serves not only as a fair starting point for an important character but works to set the stage for the rest of the story.
      But yeah RoP is dumb enough to ignore all that and go... you know I really liked playing Diablo 3, like REALLY liked it... so anyway I just learned Gandalf was essentially an Angel in Tolkien's lore... wouldn't it be cool if we had him fall from a meteor just like Tyrael in Diablo 3... OMG no one would see that coming! That would be so cool bro... it like subverts expectations and stuff... who doesn't like big explosions! I clapped just thinking about it.

    • @RubyDoobieScoo
      @RubyDoobieScoo 10 місяців тому +4

      Sounds like they managed to trick one person then.

    • @theonewithoutalife8519
      @theonewithoutalife8519 10 місяців тому +7

      I thought that they were trying to make you think that it's gandalf, but than reveal that they're saruman.

    •  8 місяців тому +3

      @@vampuricknight1IIRC, they didn't have the rights to the Silmarillion, only to the appendices(!) of TLOTR.

    • @aquilamxp6267
      @aquilamxp6267 7 місяців тому +3

      @@theonewithoutalife8519 that would require the writers to have down the basics of writing. You give them too much credit, sir :)

  • @csgollum
    @csgollum 9 місяців тому +200

    Usually, it takes Ryan to point out all the oddities, improbabilities, unscientific happenings, and illogical behavior of characters in the movies/TV shows. But with The Rings of Power... I kinda had most of the points covered during and after watching the series. In fact, identifying flaws was super easy... barely an inconvenience.

  • @mtchllBarrett
    @mtchllBarrett Рік тому +1045

    My new hobby is not watching shows that come out and just waiting for them to be done and then watching the pitch meeting to see exactly what I didn't miss

    • @henriccarlsson9052
      @henriccarlsson9052 Рік тому +27

      You and me both man.

    • @cornelius8617
      @cornelius8617 Рік тому +52

      I'm sick of woke shows

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Рік тому +15

      Mostly the same. I can't be bothered with the grind.

    • @Alexanderiii
      @Alexanderiii Рік тому +9

      Amen.

    • @kreehomel
      @kreehomel Рік тому +24

      Sounds like that's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

  • @ValerianMacMillan
    @ValerianMacMillan Рік тому +639

    Another case where the Pitch Meeting is FAR better than the actual show

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Рік тому +24

      I was kinda hoping for a 45 minute deep dive into the comical and amateurish BS, but Ryan and his evil twin don’t deserve the brain damage that would have caused

    • @agingophelia9812
      @agingophelia9812 Рік тому +8

      Order of magnitude better: several million.

    • @addex1236
      @addex1236 Рік тому +7

      Going to be honest as good as this was it's not hard being better than The Rings of Power hell frankly that should be a minimum expectation

    • @helltaker6865
      @helltaker6865 Рік тому +4

      I mean, not that high a bar nowadays, mostly

    • @MegaAndyGG
      @MegaAndyGG Рік тому +4

      Yeah. This is like 10 times better and more entertaining than the actual show. Also much better acting lmfao

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 Рік тому +247

    That Mordor origin story is so heavy-handed. They couldn't even work in the reveal organically through dialogue.
    They literally -- _literally_ -- spelled it out for the audience because apparently someone using the elven word "mor-dor" in a scene describing the aftermath of the eruption would be too difficult.

    • @EwetoobSucks
      @EwetoobSucks Рік тому +5

      03:56 cheap porn.
      "and then this bad villager dude is going to shove his magical sword into this ruth ginsburg thing which makes a damn volcano go off !"

    • @LuaanTi
      @LuaanTi Рік тому +80

      Not to mention that it kind of kills the whole point with Mordor showing an _industrial_ wasteland. And Isengard (much later) becoming the same thing due to the actions of Saruman, of course. It wasn't created in a single massive disaster, it was decades and centuries of disregard for the environment. But I guess Amazon would hardly push an origin story that says "unrestricted environmental and labour exploitation is bad", would they? :P

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Рік тому +10

      ​@@LuaanTi yeah i always assumed mordor being cancer HQ was a result of sauron jacking of into the mountain for decades on end

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Рік тому +5

      @@dodojesus4529nah, it was Galadriel not ending some guys minecraft let’s play.

    • @fab-ian
      @fab-ian 8 місяців тому +17

      Maybe the Scottish dwarven king could have been killed. "There's been a mordor!"

  • @OctagonalSquare
    @OctagonalSquare Рік тому +391

    Tolkien himself said he left some gaps in the story for others to fill. But then they just didn’t fill the gaps and rewrote the stuff around the gaps

    • @RainAngel111
      @RainAngel111 Рік тому +71

      There was seriously so much they could have done without messing with canon at all.

    • @wilfredoUbatuba
      @wilfredoUbatuba Рік тому +39

      amazon took a giant dump into the gaps

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Рік тому +1

      Yeah but that’s not fun

    • @jennyanydots2389
      @jennyanydots2389 9 місяців тому +2

      Actually it's pronounced Token bro.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 7 місяців тому +12

      They even messed up the Rings of Power being created. If there's one thing they can't mess up it's that.

  • @odiSVM
    @odiSVM Рік тому +357

    i'm 99% sure that's exactly how that pitch meeting went

    • @nathanphillipsgo
      @nathanphillipsgo Рік тому +8

      Ya but they were serious.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +28

      Nah, too much self-reflection and criticism.

    • @YuzuruA
      @YuzuruA Рік тому +2

      i can bet that no bc i dont think they knew the ending

    • @AchedSphinx
      @AchedSphinx Рік тому

      just throw a bunch of money at it, it'll work itself out. pretty crazy the budget for the whole thing is 1 billion buckaroos, I figured rich people would be so skittish about making their money back they'd move to another planet.

    • @rayalbion9637
      @rayalbion9637 Рік тому

      99.999%

  • @JC35257
    @JC35257 Рік тому +1755

    It pains me that Ryan had to watch the entire season in order to make this video. Such a champion!

    • @MrDavidhastwo
      @MrDavidhastwo Рік тому +98

      Well I mean he got paid to do it. I watched it for free like an idiot. Now I feel ripped off.

    • @coreyw5981
      @coreyw5981 Рік тому +29

      Ugh i did! I just kept on watching hoping something cool would finally happen... And it it just never did.....

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine Рік тому +62

      @@coreyw5981 It ended. Does that count?

    • @Adrak-Hiano
      @Adrak-Hiano Рік тому +3

      I couldn't..

    • @coreyw5981
      @coreyw5981 Рік тому +4

      @@LucianDevine haha i guess you're right

  • @CristianGarcia
    @CristianGarcia Рік тому +108

    This pitch meeting probably got better views than the actual show.

  • @MarcoAGJ
    @MarcoAGJ Рік тому +188

    The fact that he didn't even cover half of the problems with that show just says a lot.

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 8 місяців тому

      The fact that UA-cam is clogged with 52-minute-long 6-minute videos...well, I respect Ryan more.

    • @AeridisArt
      @AeridisArt 7 місяців тому +5

      @@hoilst265 pretty sure OP is making a dig on the show, not Ryan, saying that the show has so many things odd and wrong that Ryan wouldn't be able to fit it in one Pitch Meeting vid.

  • @driesstvn5397
    @driesstvn5397 Рік тому +370

    “People can’t know I can’t see… So I’m gonna cover up my eyes!!” Brilliant 😅

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +18

      That was really her reasoning for that blindfold? Wow. Guess why it's called "blind"fold... This show...

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz Рік тому +28

      @@kaltaron1284 Technically she sits up straight and looks forward while having one of her soldiers, a semi-important character, guide her so she can continue to pretend she can see...
      ...but like ten minutes and two scenes later she's not even pretending she isn't blind anymore and it doesn't seem to be making a lick of difference to anyone.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +10

      @@Lucifronz Great, so the show makes a point and immidiately forgets it. Like with the rock crushing contest. Or not being allowed to leave the palace. Or....

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury Рік тому +2

      That sort of thing works with sunglasses, but not a huge red bandana wrapped around your eyes. But at least the showrunners knew that sunglasses didn't exist then.

  • @calebford6318
    @calebford6318 Рік тому +2102

    I love the clever passive agressive ways he calls out how much shows/movies suck. He’s great at pointing out how little effort they put into it, and how little they care about the audience or source material.

    • @Aredel
      @Aredel Рік тому +67

      It makes it even funnier in the videos when he blatantly calls out how terrible a movie is.

    • @its_dey_mate
      @its_dey_mate Рік тому +7

      @@NoBody-pw3kf What?

    • @Fuck_handles
      @Fuck_handles Рік тому +72

      @@its_dey_mate I think he means something like the she hulk pitch meating, producer guy said hulk has been through more bad stuff than she-hulk and writer guy said he's on a list now.

    • @BT-su1yf
      @BT-su1yf Рік тому +5

      @@its_dey_mate that was what Amazon and the media were trying to spin: that literally ALL of the criticism of Rings of Power was just racists and misogynists who were upset about the representation in the show. Of course, it’s a bullsh*t claim.

    • @CASPB
      @CASPB Рік тому

      ❤️

  • @The_Mimewar
    @The_Mimewar 9 місяців тому +61

    It’s sad that the writers and producers didn’t realize they had a GOLDMINE. They treated LOTR like some soap opera.

    • @luthasunspell8365
      @luthasunspell8365 9 місяців тому +13

      Not true. Soap operas have at least one likable female and this had none. 😉

    • @The_Mimewar
      @The_Mimewar 9 місяців тому +3

      @@luthasunspell8365 ouch. But true

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 7 місяців тому +6

      They thought it was Game of Thrones and not Lord of the Rings. I think they were making a pg13 GoT type show and forgot that's not LOTR at all.

    • @Droid6689
      @Droid6689 6 місяців тому +3

      You are mistaken. The writers and producers knew they had a goldmine.
      This is their best.
      Modern writers are exceedingly incompetent.

    • @AmazingThor
      @AmazingThor Місяць тому

      They paid a goldmine just to get the rights

  • @vellefabricante7755
    @vellefabricante7755 8 місяців тому +69

    It's been over a year since the series premiered, and it still feels like a fresh wound.

    • @vyntarus9618
      @vyntarus9618 4 місяці тому +4

      Maybe it's a wound that can only be healed with elvish medicine.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 3 місяці тому +4

      They should've titled it "Rings of Flour". Because the so-called writers on that delirious dumpster fire were as dense as day-old donuts.

  • @maartineriksson
    @maartineriksson Рік тому +1945

    The casual "Hey shut up" when pointing out something is just too good! And I gotta say that surviving a pyroclastic flow is pretty impressive, especially if it burns your eyes but NOT your hair.

    • @vsegda723
      @vsegda723 Рік тому +44

      Her eyes not liquefying from the heat is even more impressive

    • @applejuices
      @applejuices Рік тому +92

      @@hungryhippo6259 "because the show, for all its rough spots, is pretty darn good"
      Ya serious? 🤣
      "Miriel's eyes were not burned by the pyroclastic flow, that happened in the next episode." Okay, that's even more stupid though.
      Overall I think if you kind of enjoyed the show, that's fine, but if you actually think the show is 'pretty darn good' you need mental help.

    • @applejuices
      @applejuices Рік тому +40

      @@hungryhippo6259 I'm on my phone right now, so I'm not gonna write an essay. I did not want this to become an argument, i was just stating the truth. When I have the time, i will explain in more detail why it sucks ass, objectively. No, me saying you are in a bad mental spot is not proving the show is good. It's just that you cannot like the show when you're in a good state of mind and not fucked in the head. More on that later.

    • @bryandyke2037
      @bryandyke2037 Рік тому +25

      " I mean, how does she know she's blind forever? A lot of things can make you blind temporarily, including staring into bright lights" "Nope, she's blind forever" "but why? Seems like a stretch " "Look, I'm going to need you to get the hell off my back she's blind forever and she knows it."

    • @booshmcfadden7638
      @booshmcfadden7638 Рік тому

      @@hungryhippo6259 Whoa. You claim people aren't paying attention and then say Sam and Frodo survived Mt. Doom exploding. Maybe you should rewatch, because SAM AND FRODO DIDN'T GET HIT IN THE FACE WITH 2,000 DEGREES OF HOT FIRE AND ASH MOVING AT 200 MPH. Jesus! You crazies and your strawmen.
      This video points out just a few dozen inconsistencies and ridiculous things that absolutely 100% happen in this show, and you brush off this as people not paying attention because it doesn't fit your false narrative. Miriel went blind directly after the blast, that's in the show, that's what they showed us, that's how it happened, it's linear, I've watched it. Your reasoning for calling Martin a liar is that the writers retconned their own show in the next episode, so the previous episode just...doesn't count anymore, or something. I don't know, you make about as much sense as the awful writers. Why are you making excuses for them?
      The scene structure is garbage, the dialog is garbage, the characters are garbage, the writing is garbage, the editing is garbage. This is one of several scenes where the writers either forgot what just happened or didn't care and there's no cohesivity to the barebones idea that this trash claims is a plot.

  • @Bensam123
    @Bensam123 Рік тому +1264

    How many spots in this video he basically could insert 'barely a inconvenience'... yet has to constantly stop himself is mind blowing. Literally right out of the gates with the ice troll.

    • @fumomofumosarum5893
      @fumomofumosarum5893 Рік тому +67

      For this show's Galadriel, everything is super easy and barely an inconvenience. Like leaving a prison cell. Because she's a woman.

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster Рік тому +35

      @@fumomofumosarum5893 as someone who loves badass female characters its irritating how often they drop the ball on making them badass but not basically invincible/flawless (INB4 "what do yo mean? Her flaw is that she's hot headed!").

    • @nowhereman6360
      @nowhereman6360 Рік тому +7

      Discount Legolas killed an Orc with a stick and fought hand to hand with a tank like orc...

    • @Razor_Crest
      @Razor_Crest Рік тому +26

      @@EbonMaster Powerfull female characters shouldn’t be overly powerful. Otherwise it makes them feel proud, not courageous. Same is true of men. This is part of the reason why I loved The Batman. Right out of of the gate, he’s taking shots at him, depressed, and exhausted. Yet he continues on because he knows it’s the right thing to do. Hollywood shouldn’t treat female characters any differently.

    • @randomhuman97
      @randomhuman97 Рік тому +1

      Haven't watched lord of the rings. Dint care to

  • @TheMedievalNerd
    @TheMedievalNerd Рік тому +299

    I laughed too much at the "Obviously being Gandalf is tight!"

    • @bad-people6510
      @bad-people6510 9 місяців тому +2

      Sauron was equally obvious. And the show was very dependent on every single viewer not having figured it out immediately.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 7 місяців тому +1

      I actually think that isn't Gandalf. it's a misdirect. It's either Saruman or one of the Blue Wizards. It's going to be a twist upon a twist.. that no one will care about.

    • @TheMedievalNerd
      @TheMedievalNerd 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Paulafan5 Considering how virtually every plot in the story up to now were all ham-fisted to some degree. I wouldn't put money on expecting that character to be someone other than Gandalf.
      Some people probably thought that Halbrand wasn't Sauron. I don't think that show should be watched expecting any kind of 'deep mystery'.

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 6 місяців тому

      I didn’t even watch past the second episode and I figured out he’s Gandalf. They also changed his backstory because… Hobbits I guess. He wasn’t some space hobo when he arrived in Middle Earth.

  • @TenTonNuke
    @TenTonNuke Рік тому +827

    I consider myself a decent writer and I cannot begin to express how frustrating it is to exist in this time of terrible writers being given amazing opportunities that they didn't earn.

    • @Mrlonefighter
      @Mrlonefighter Рік тому +77

      Amazon had 1 billion dollars, and it feels like they spent like 1 dollar 50 cents on the script. And gave it to a drunk homeless guy, who can't read nor write. But hey, we get another season though, maybe they fix some of the problems

    • @wumpusrat
      @wumpusrat Рік тому +61

      @@Mrlonefighter
      The vast majority of the money for the show went to buying positive press and positive reviews. The script feels like something written by an AI, the costumes were terrible (3d-printed armor, cloth with armor patterns just printed on them -- and in some cases NOT printed on them in parts, looking even sloppier), terrible acting, almost no extras...
      It was a godawful mess.

    • @ivancavar3037
      @ivancavar3037 Рік тому +27

      And you can also call yourself naive for believing that the incompetence that dominates this planet is not by design.

    • @samblack5313
      @samblack5313 Рік тому +34

      You need to update your activist resume, go trans, and pledge your loyalty to critical race theory.

    • @vincelupo8419
      @vincelupo8419 Рік тому

      @@samblack5313 What would I need to do to impress you then? Buy 3 guns, burn accurate history books, vote for a corrupt businessman, shrug about school shootings, vote yes for genital inspection of kids in high school sports? See? Stereotypes and binary politics are bullshit.

  • @zenocrate4040
    @zenocrate4040 Рік тому +2925

    One of the few decisions I have made in this life that I do not regret was skipping the show and watching Ryan's Pitch Meeting instead.

    • @airixxxx
      @airixxxx Рік тому +79

      Same. I did unfortunately watch the first episode, it was bad on levels I couldn't believe posible.

    • @tylerhonaker2544
      @tylerhonaker2544 Рік тому +16

      Same.

    • @SilentSpeak
      @SilentSpeak Рік тому

      I watched each and every episode in pure blissful awe at hoe royally awfully someone can screw up a legendary property while having access to the biggest budget ever lol.

    • @BearFattfilm
      @BearFattfilm Рік тому +14

      Same.

    • @danielrafferty4108
      @danielrafferty4108 Рік тому +24

      @@airixxxx Yeah, I had to watch the first episode in two stints. Went back to the second part half convincing myself I was being too harsh. Didn't bother with the rest.

  • @gzaf187
    @gzaf187 Рік тому +1268

    When the pitch meeting is 1000x better than the actual show 😂😂😂

    • @Guderian2
      @Guderian2 Рік тому +13

      Well i mean Pitch Meetings are always 1 10/10 so, it will always be better xD

    • @4879daniel
      @4879daniel Рік тому +36

      It convinced me not to bother with the show. Sounds very dull.

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 Рік тому +2

      @@4879daniel no joke the show is straight up fucking stupid

    • @divedweller4295
      @divedweller4295 Рік тому +6

      Oi! Any increase over zero is infinity times.

    • @johndoe8785
      @johndoe8785 Рік тому +35

      @@4879daniel It shouldn't be attributed to anything Tolkien wrote, that's for sure.

  • @user-ii9bl6de2j
    @user-ii9bl6de2j 7 місяців тому +21

    The entire show and everyone involved in it should be cast into Mount Doom.

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 4 місяці тому +3

      The problem is that they were, but everyone survived... Somehow...

  • @robertdevito5001
    @robertdevito5001 Рік тому +45

    Ryan actually seems mad here, usually he isn’t so up front about calling things dumb.

  • @Blakblooded
    @Blakblooded Рік тому +1268

    This pitch meeting is likely waaay more concise and logical then the one that actually occurred.

    • @edisontrent618
      @edisontrent618 Рік тому +5

      I don't know, the money laundering and social propaganda seemed to work pretty well. Hollywood mission accomplished.

    • @Skeptic_Tank
      @Skeptic_Tank Рік тому +12

      than*

    • @phealtalk
      @phealtalk Рік тому +2

      the real pitch meeting was "lets kathleen kennedy the shit out of lotr. want to?"

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej Рік тому +6

      The Tolkien Estate actually turned down several ideas from Netflix and Disney iirc

    • @edisontrent618
      @edisontrent618 Рік тому +6

      @@jonnnnniej Wasn't that before Tolkien died? Or perhaps it was afterwards and they were bargaining for more $$$. It certainly wasn't a quality issue, given what was made.

  • @Markus_Andrew
    @Markus_Andrew Рік тому +356

    One does not simply walk into a Pitch Meeting. Its glass gates are guarded by more than just logos. There is wry humor there that does not sleep. And the great Ryan is ever watchful.

    • @masbox5830
      @masbox5830 Рік тому +4

      🤣🤣Well done Boromir

    • @nathanieldiaz2845
      @nathanieldiaz2845 Рік тому +1

      LMFAO!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Greendalewitch
      @Greendalewitch Рік тому +6

      "I wish there were more Pitch Meetings. I wish Ryan could cover every movie and show I love and hate"
      "So do all that live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the Pitch Meetings that are given to us"

  • @dbsthumper
    @dbsthumper 8 місяців тому +11

    this was a $$$$ grab by both Amazon & the current runners of Tolkien Estate pure and simple... with no rights to The Unfinished Tales & The Silmarillion,this is basically VERY EXPENSIVE fan fiction!!! many thanks Ryan,you have provided a great service to all LOTR fans...

    • @thehoerscorral8565
      @thehoerscorral8565 4 місяці тому

      I wish more people realized this. The show was 100% a billion dollar money laundering run for almost everyone involved. Bezos probably signed off on it without reading a single script or talking to a single person actually involved in making it, so any real success would have been just a nice side effect that made their use of future seasons for more of the same a lot easier, but either way, plenty of people in the right places got their cut of that billion plus bezosbucks dumped into this mess.
      The fact that despite its abysmal numbers (after the first episode, when people realized what they were in for and abandoned ship) they greenlit additional seasons is all but proof of this. They'll keep churning this along despite nobody watching and letting Amazon get those great hollywood/twitter brownie points for being so diverse and inclusive, and just enough morons will cheer and clap (but then not actually watch the show because, oh right, it's BAAAD) that it's the perfect shield against scrutiny. After all you would have to be racist/sexist/ableist/fatphobic/(other ist and phobe) incels to attack a show with obese black woman as part of the cast!

  • @tommie7996
    @tommie7996 8 місяців тому +10

    Hobbits used to be so wholesome and traditional.

  • @thomaslake7978
    @thomaslake7978 Рік тому +790

    As a Tolkien fan, I loved this so much. Galadriel just bumping into Sauron in the middle of the ocean, "obviously being Gandalf is TIGHT." That last one sent me.

    • @miriamweller812
      @miriamweller812 Рік тому +12

      Just being Gandalf is pretty tight, though. Being it obviously is tighty tight.

    • @bigblakboiii
      @bigblakboiii Рік тому +1

      Big Tolkien fan are you? Did you also hate the original trilogy as much as Tolkien would’ve?

    • @HackTeorico
      @HackTeorico Рік тому +6

      Pretty sure that Sauron getting in her way was not an accident.

    • @colingreen5553
      @colingreen5553 Рік тому +7

      @@bigblakboiii What’s your point?

    • @sindri1447
      @sindri1447 Рік тому +35

      @@bigblakboiii the original trilogy was a good adaptation that had the utmost respect for the source material. The changes made were mostly necessary for a cinematic adaptation. Tolkien's work is so insanely detailed and encyclopedic in nature that no film should ever try to 100% follow it as a a script. Books and TV are far from being similar story telling devices. You can't just do a 1:1 mirroring of the two. It doesn't work like that.
      That being said, the show does not respect the source material at all. It seems to utterly despise it. Changing everything on a whim because it suits their modern sensibilities. They don't want to depict Tolkien's world. They want to create their own while taking advantage of Tolkien's good name. They want to easily ride on the coattails of a long gone literary legend.

  • @noControl556
    @noControl556 Рік тому +352

    Accurately described the plot of a whole season in 6mins and really didn't miss anything.

    • @davich_
      @davich_ Рік тому +2

      TBF some of the things he metaphorically shrugged off were actually explained in the series, and the fact he unironically mispronounced Celebrimbor leads me to assume he didn't actually watch the series but rather read reviews and plot synopses. The show isn't as bad as people are trying to make it out to be.

    • @gm9460
      @gm9460 Рік тому +24

      @@davich_ no they weren’t. Not really. And you can’t take a joke can you? The point is that the writers could easily have made that pronunciation mistake in their pitch. It’s actually a very subtle burn on their level of lore knowledge and care about the lore (almost zero)

    • @mynamegothit3825
      @mynamegothit3825 Рік тому +21

      The show was terrible .....
      The dialogue was all rubbish it was so cringe 80% of it was them trying to sound soo deep.....
      A few major problems with the show
      Galdrial jumping into the ocean.... the distance she would need to swim is tremendous and she even says in the show when there saved and shes talking to queen regent "saved us from CERTAIN death"
      She took a volcanic eruption from MOUNT DOOM to the face and remember it forged the 1 ring ..... id like to point out why its ridiculous .... all i need say is ... Pompeii
      She spent so long hunting sauron searching for a symbol and what it meant....then she somehow realized that its literally a map location....
      Also to add to this why the hell does her brother have it stamped all over him?????? If i murdered someone im not gonna draw my place of origin in the flesh...
      Theres so very much more to say but i cant give enough of a crap to even type it as this show is a massive train reck

    • @rhysproudmourne1646
      @rhysproudmourne1646 Рік тому +7

      I just wish he talked about the pointless architect sister or the herbalist lady being an orc slayer for no reason. Both characters that were pointless and would’ve loved mocked. Oh well, perfect summary either way.

    • @benjaminjane93
      @benjaminjane93 Рік тому +5

      @@davich_ Jesus christ. Grow up.

  • @catherinehubbard1167
    @catherinehubbard1167 Рік тому +61

    Another great take. I have no intention of putting myself through watching the Rings of Power TV series, but now I know the “story.” I continue to be amazed at how the studio execs put no value on a good story, characters, or writing and are willing to dump endless money on brainless projects that have none of them.

  • @Paulafan5
    @Paulafan5 7 місяців тому +9

    I understand that the show would have to compress events and combine them (since they take place over thousands of years in the Second Age) but did they really have to disregard 98% of the lore? They even mess up the forging of the Rings of Power. That's what the show is called and they can't even get that right.

  • @nathanmays7926
    @nathanmays7926 Рік тому +421

    It’s shocking that in the real world, there are dozens of writers working together for thousands of hours, and not one said “hey maybe this plot line sucks?”

    • @maxweber06
      @maxweber06 Рік тому +105

      I'm sure some did and were promptly fired and slapped with an NDA. The writing staff likely created their own echo chamber.

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson Рік тому +121

      there was in fact a lore guy assisting the writers at the start of the process, but he left the team for "unknown reasons", so either they fired him for constantly telling them their shit can't fly according to the lore or he left the team himself in utter frustration

    • @MollyFC
      @MollyFC Рік тому +13

      Nobody was like "I'm good is the best we can write, really?"

    • @ianpatterson6552
      @ianpatterson6552 Рік тому +25

      @@ZugzugZugzugson Tom Shippey was the gent in question. Renewed Tolkien scholar.

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Рік тому +56

      The two showrunners have never even ran a show before and they got handed the most expensive one ever made. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be fired.

  • @ColombianMusclePapi
    @ColombianMusclePapi Рік тому +1454

    " *I AM GOOD* " A line so sweet, so divine, not even JRR Tolkien could dream of conjuring up on paper. 🤣😂

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway Рік тому +68

      That’s what the writers have taped on their bathroom mirrors to bolster their sad little no-talent ego’s

    • @jackspicer455
      @jackspicer455 Рік тому +4

      Hahaahah

    • @momon969
      @momon969 Рік тому +76

      Why not rewrite all of Tolkien's work in that style?
      ""We must face the long dark of Moria. Be on your guard. There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world.""
      =
      "Hole bad, bad hole. Orcs bad too, but bad hole things more bad than bad orcs. Bad."

    • @brandencullinan8886
      @brandencullinan8886 Рік тому +44

      Imagine if the only explanation ever given for Gandalf's coming back was, "Somehow, Gandalf returned!"

    • @OWnIshiiTrolling
      @OWnIshiiTrolling Рік тому +38

      @@momon969 Nah, they should rewrite it as something that sounds wise, but is complete garbage if pondered for more than a few seconds. Something like "rocks sink because they look down, and ships float because they look up." Imagine if they actually put something like that in the series.
      Imagine an actual legal adult writing that in a script.

  • @poulthomas469
    @poulthomas469 Рік тому +72

    I'm surprised studios are not hiring Ryan to listen to their pitches. The quality of Hollywood product would go up substantially if they did.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 7 місяців тому +2

      They would have no shows to make.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 3 місяці тому

      Wealthy narcissists NEVER listen to "the peasants". That's why we even have legends like Eyegurr, KK, Bezoz, and that wacky fool who wrote "Robbynnn in Da Hoõd" or whatever it was. I think he called himself "The Director", and that tells ya everything you need to know. 🙄

  • @truemoviefanatic7199
    @truemoviefanatic7199 9 місяців тому +10

    I like how even the Producer Guy was getting frustrated just hearing the beginning of this pitch 😂

  • @SuperLuis225
    @SuperLuis225 Рік тому +397

    "So what do ya think?"
    "Well I think... its... its a recognisable brand name!" 😂😂 love it

    • @criticallythinking0
      @criticallythinking0 Рік тому +13

      Isn’t that basically the formula for all movie and tv shows now? Take franchise insert politically correct dialogue at the expensive of quality ruin franchise alienate fan base then blame said fan base.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Рік тому +3

      @@criticallythinking0 yep, as critical drinker would say, it's been updated for "modern audiences" and now its just spouts things that are all about "THE MESSAGE"

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Рік тому

      @@zogwort1522 I've tried to understand how your comment relates to mine, I really tried, but what on earth does that have to do with my comment?
      Why would my comment insinuate that the south shouldn't be a bunch of prejudiced guys in white hoofs, and instead be like north Africa?
      How did you even arrive at that?

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Рік тому

      @@zogwort1522 no, I was asking if my comment was insinuating anything
      I never said orcs need to be black, that's an insult only someone of your caliber would think to say
      The shit I'm talking about, in particular, the men of Middle earth, supposed to be Nordic or Slavic or Scandinavian or northern european based men who skin tone reflects it, and whos time reflects it as its before any sort of time where equatorally inclined skin types travel to all corners of the earth, and a time where your skin type generally indicates that your people have been here for thousands of years not moving around, and where everyone have a specific skin type for a certain latitude of the globe, basically what I'm saying here, the men of middle earth are pale skinned, and the men of harard, far harard, the Easterlings, the corsair men of umbar, they are not from middle earth, therefore they have an excuse as to why they dont have pale skin. Then you have the men of numenor, practically the palest men in the history of Middle earth, and the queen of the royal family, who's line decends from the palest of pale skins, the elves themselves, and the queen who was canonically described in the books with a fair, white, pale skin, in the show, is black. Speaking of elves, the dwarves and elves in the show, who in the books as Tolkien wrote in their origin stories being as immune to change and the elements, and to all illnesses as well, (remember, the reason why the elves were fading in middle earth as the world changed around them, and why the dwarves were isolating themselves and being forgotten as they return to the rocks they were molded from) ergo they're immune to things like uv rays and sunlight, ergo no need to ever naturally develop things like adaptations or evolutionary changes to counteract the excess rays and overabundance of vitamin D, ergo, NO BLACK ELVES OR DWARVES, especially when dwarves live, underground!
      That's just a taste of the cardinal sins this show undertook, both in regards to the lore, logic, common sense, and the writing, ugh, don't get ne started on the fucking writing. Meteor man: "I am good", top tier writing there folks (like hell it is). Or wait wait wait, how about galadriel finding out sauron is halbrand, knowing celebrimbor made the rings with his guidance, knowing the evil and power sauron is capable of, yet not saying a damn thing to the other elves about how they probably shouldn't be using the rings after she finds out.
      I rest my fucking case

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Рік тому

      @@zogwort1522 nah, I hadn't, sorry, no sleep tends to get me not getting things sometimes, also this is like the third time this week but over a period of a few days where someone's tried telling me how rings of power wasn't woke

  • @pcguru3096
    @pcguru3096 Рік тому +135

    it never ceases to amaze me how Ryan is able to insert "hey shut up" and continue talking like nothing ever happened

    • @dawnfire82
      @dawnfire82 Рік тому +2

      I like the recently added, "Oh thank God."

  • @damonallen9726
    @damonallen9726 Рік тому +17

    At a fraction of a fraction of the budget this by far more enjoyable than the actual show.

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah Рік тому +30

    I wish we could get a pitch meeting for every episode.
    But I know that would condemn Ryan to watch them all. 😢

  • @itsethanbradberry
    @itsethanbradberry Рік тому +3329

    You can really feel the anger from Ryan in this one

    • @raiden1766
      @raiden1766 Рік тому +185

      The sarcastic semi-anger when producer guy talked about pyroclastic flow was 👌

    • @jimh472
      @jimh472 Рік тому +230

      This clown show besmirches an IP that spans generations and practically DEFINED the fantasy genre. So yeah, anger is warranted.

    • @jimgray3346
      @jimgray3346 Рік тому +11

      Sounds like you're just projecting

    • @parmenides2576
      @parmenides2576 Рік тому

      @@jimgray3346 shut up nerd

    • @Laucron
      @Laucron Рік тому

      @@jimgray3346 sounds like you're just dense

  • @macrocosmique
    @macrocosmique Рік тому +1399

    The prononciation of Galadriel, Numenor and Morgoth was so funny I wished you continued 😂

    • @godbluffvdgg
      @godbluffvdgg Рік тому +20

      :)..Me too, I wrote a comment wishing he had leaned into it...I was chuckling thinking of him doing the names every time, differently...

    • @ThomeTeque
      @ThomeTeque Рік тому +19

      And now Namorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • @dada13771
      @dada13771 Рік тому +19

      Then he mispronounces Celebrimbor

    • @commandercaptain4664
      @commandercaptain4664 Рік тому

      RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE.

    • @murlocknight1427
      @murlocknight1427 Рік тому +6

      Yeah, Celebrimbor actually hurt.

  • @C0nstellati0ns
    @C0nstellati0ns Рік тому +16

    What's even more amazing is how fast I forgot about that show.

  • @afatalvendetta
    @afatalvendetta Рік тому +20

    "Is she planning to swim back to Middle-Earth?" was essentially my reaction when she jumped off the ship.

    • @partyboi8773
      @partyboi8773 Рік тому +5

      This. And to all the half-wits saying "But elves are superhuman! She could totally do it!"-- the Kinslaying in the Silmarillion took place when one host of elves murdered others to get their ships, in order to cross the ocean to Middle-Earth. Others, including Galadriel, faced extreme hardship and death crossing the icy wastelands of the far north instead, to make the trek. If only someone had just suggested a leisurely ocean-wide swim instead!

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 11 місяців тому +7

      @@partyboi8773I’m just imagining the entire host of the Noldor doing a backstroke to Middle Earth as Morgoth stares in confusion from afar.

  • @BrianD0313
    @BrianD0313 Рік тому +494

    I love how even the producer was dumbfounded at how ridiculous some of the things in actual series were.

    • @booshmcfadden7638
      @booshmcfadden7638 Рік тому +55

      "lol, haha, no really, what happens? Oh my God, you're serious."
      Pretty much every scene in the show.

    • @sethstor
      @sethstor Рік тому +1

      Obviously being Gandalf is tight

    • @Jamsaladd
      @Jamsaladd Рік тому

      This your first pitch meeting ?

  • @buttscarlton1490
    @buttscarlton1490 Рік тому +420

    Not sure what I find more surprising; that Ryan was able to attain the actual security cam footage of this very much real meeting taking place at Amazon Studios OR; that their security cameras are aligned in an identical manner as the pitch meeting UA-cam show

    • @LittleGoblinBastard
      @LittleGoblinBastard Рік тому +24

      Cameras convenitently placed in the correct angles are TIGHT

    • @joyamos29
      @joyamos29 Рік тому +1

      Its definitely the latter. No doubt.

    • @ODUBlue
      @ODUBlue Рік тому

      Wowowow. Wow.

  • @lanafonseca5565
    @lanafonseca5565 9 місяців тому +7

    The way he derailed the conversation and gave pause after asking if he heard right, that galadriel just happens to run into sauron in the ocean😂

  • @Will-rl8rs
    @Will-rl8rs 3 місяці тому +4

    "He's from the matrix movies!" laughed so hard at that

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 Рік тому +2180

    Realizing that the show you vowed never to watch is even worse than you thought it would be is tight!

    • @mikejunior211
      @mikejunior211 Рік тому +94

      Amazon: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • @terrypankhurst7601
      @terrypankhurst7601 Рік тому +25

      I thought the same while watching this lol

    • @darthrevan4376
      @darthrevan4376 Рік тому +40

      To be fair this pitch meeting gives a nice spin on it, the reality of it is way more nonsensical

    • @xdevantx5870
      @xdevantx5870 Рік тому +10

      I mean it was OK, better than the Hobbit movies. But there were definitely some serious obvious flaws with it.

    • @samcochran8203
      @samcochran8203 Рік тому +56

      @@xdevantx5870 Better than the hobbit movies...
      *_Insert J Jonah Jameson laughing meme_*
      *YOU SERIOUS* ?

  • @TheSmokingSkull
    @TheSmokingSkull Рік тому +262

    In RoP, Galadriel found out about Sauron and THEN she had Celebrimbor and Elrond finish the rings, knowing completely that it was Sauron's idea to make them into rings the whole time. Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up...

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Рік тому +28

      The shows excuse is that this would somehow mean Galadriel conspired with Sauron and thus she can't tell the other for fear of the consequences. That makes no sense though, because they didn't see through his disguise either.

    • @GarageQueen
      @GarageQueen Рік тому +35

      "Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up..."
      "So that the show can happen!"
      "Works for me!"

    • @Darhhaall
      @Darhhaall Рік тому +8

      This is not that bad - three elven rings are not corrupted by Sauron, I mean in the books, and they are pretty powerful an important for them. Other rings Sauron made later were the problem.

    • @TheSmokingSkull
      @TheSmokingSkull Рік тому +9

      @@GarageQueen Lol, even from that standpoint of "well obviously characters have to make stupid decisions so the show can happen", you can still tell a good story and not have every character act like a moron. The Galadriel of RoP hates Sauron SO much that there is absolutely no way she wouldn't tell the others about his involvement with the rings.
      I mean, she refused Sauron's offer but still let his plan come to fruition. It basically makes Galadriel out to be massively hypocritical and trying to grab power for herself, which would actually be an interesting plot point of season 2 IF they went that way, but the showrunners seem completely invested in excusing everything Galadriel does/says in season 1. I mean, she literally threatens to torture prisoners of war, kill and depose rulers, threatens to shank officials in back alleys, threatens her own soldiers, etc etc. The only way the show can redeem her is if she actually stops her genocidal quest of killing every single Orc/Uruk and admitting she was wrong, but that would include putting up her sword and actually becoming like, well, Galadriel from LotR (we still haven'tseen a single use of magic from RoP Galadriel), who is more of a pacifist, and I highly doubt the showrumners would *ever* do that.

    • @TheSmokingSkull
      @TheSmokingSkull Рік тому +10

      @@Darhhaall The issue is, the other rings, rings for the Dwarves and Men, were made FIRST (with some assistance from Sauron) and afterwards, the rings for the Elves were made. In the original lore *and* movies, the Elves made their rings without Sauron, but used his techniques, so the rings still had the secret backdoor Sauron had in them so the One Ring could influence them. It's like the showrumners just watched the opening of Fellowship and thought "oh, the rings for the elves were made first, then dwarves, then men, and Sauron personally helped make all of them!", and went from there.

  • @LucianoBAF
    @LucianoBAF 8 місяців тому +3

    This is the best pitch meeting of all. If they had you on Amazon Studios, they could've stopped this madness they did with ONE FUCKING BILLION dollars

  • @larkermouse
    @larkermouse 10 місяців тому +10

    Just finished reading the Silmarillion, and now decided to watch this pitch meeting to know roughly how the show shapes up. Seems it doesn't!

  • @snuffclubstudio708
    @snuffclubstudio708 Рік тому +2178

    He explained the ENTIRE plot of 8 hours of show in 6 mins. Speaks volumes 🤣

    • @thehikingcucumber3410
      @thehikingcucumber3410 Рік тому +120

      And all the plot holes

    • @snuffclubstudio708
      @snuffclubstudio708 Рік тому +6

      Absolutely

    • @CPonSound
      @CPonSound Рік тому +41

      LOTR: Magic ring bad, thrown in volcano.
      Just explained the ENTIRE plot of 12 hours of movies/1000+ page book in 6 words. Speaks volumes 🤣

    • @Temuldjin
      @Temuldjin Рік тому +24

      That's the neat part of having incompetent writers...

    • @Lunarcheese72
      @Lunarcheese72 Рік тому +118

      @@CPonSound No young man, that is called a summary. Good try though. Gold Star 🌟 for you!

  • @a.b.2405
    @a.b.2405 Рік тому +120

    I really do not understand how anybody can get past the second episode without falling asleep or getting distracted by a spec of dust in the air.

    • @famedlettuce3497
      @famedlettuce3497 Рік тому +7

      I know! And the plot was so predictable. I only watched the first three episodes, good to see I didn’t miss much

    • @pocosdailymoviememes1257
      @pocosdailymoviememes1257 Рік тому +3

      Yeah I got distracted in the 1st episode there were too many plot lines and characters imo

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Рік тому +4

      I just switched to watching my toenails grow.

    • @a.b.2405
      @a.b.2405 Рік тому

      @@nhmooytis7058 literally! 😭🤣

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Рік тому +1

      @@a.b.2405 I have very fast growing toenails.

  • @BogdanBaudis
    @BogdanBaudis 9 місяців тому +5

    When watching the spoof of the pitch is better than the pitched thing ... Priceless!!!

    • @MaiAolei
      @MaiAolei 7 місяців тому

      For everything else we have MasterCard!

  • @robbinsnest6163
    @robbinsnest6163 Рік тому +31

    Perfectly executed, unlike the show itself! 👌🏻

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 7 місяців тому

      If only we could execute the show itself.

  • @kuknhead
    @kuknhead Рік тому +1506

    One of the most ruthless Pitch Meetings, and deservedly so. Thanks, Ryan!

    • @conniethesconnie
      @conniethesconnie Рік тому +17

      Was half expecting the pitch dude to make a response about the writing along the lines of "It's being produced by Amazon so it has to be bad enough to make Wheel of Time look good.

    • @kjellbjrnasmo480
      @kjellbjrnasmo480 Рік тому +18

      @@anthonykaitis 🤦‍♂️

    • @NymbusCumulo928
      @NymbusCumulo928 Рік тому +12

      @@anthonykaitis I do hate random token characters thrown into the trailer for marketing purposes, while having no actual impact on the story itself.
      Also helps when they're ugly and unlikable, such as the dwarf queen who . . . doesnt have a beard for some reason.

    • @snichelsticks8653
      @snichelsticks8653 Рік тому +3

      @@NymbusCumulo928 yeah she would be great if THEY ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE LORE

    • @saar144
      @saar144 Рік тому +7

      And that was even without mentioning the cringiest moments of “ship floats, stone sinks”, “you’ve not seen what I have seen”, “give me the meat and give it to me raw”, and more

  • @amellirizarry9503
    @amellirizarry9503 Рік тому +125

    Boy, the thing that bugs me the most about the script was the “Sauron lives because of you” Line, like were they implying that Sauron could have just died in a shipwreck??

    • @tuomaspirinen8018
      @tuomaspirinen8018 Рік тому +1

      It seems so. An immortal Maiar spirit that was part of the creation of the entire universe, with all its stars, galaxies and planets, was gonna drown at sea, despite having the power to take physical shape again whenever the previous vessel was destroyed. But hey, that is just some junk some old guy named Tolkien wrote. Who cares about that old old coot?

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Рік тому +51

      Singling out the most stupid line in this show is certainly not super easy.

    • @grogdizzy5814
      @grogdizzy5814 Рік тому +9

      How did you manage to sit through the whole thing?

    • @louislux
      @louislux Рік тому +22

      @@grogdizzy5814 skipping all the inspirational speeches is a good start.

    • @Largueirus
      @Largueirus Рік тому +4

      Well no, it's talking about when she took a wounded Halbrand to Eregion to be healed.

  • @mygoditsfullofstars9148
    @mygoditsfullofstars9148 10 місяців тому +4

    My favorite pitch meeting line is :
    `and then Batman adopts Robin despite the fact that Robin is quite obviously a fully grown adult.`

  • @Norvik_-ug3ge
    @Norvik_-ug3ge 4 місяці тому +7

    I remember first hearing about Amazon making a second age Middle-Earth TV series and being so pumped....and then they came out with this steaming pile 😢

  • @doinkindonut
    @doinkindonut Рік тому +501

    A 2 hour long version of this pitch meeting I would have gladly watched all the way through

    • @yisroel6
      @yisroel6 Рік тому +20

      Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't much more story to include. He covered just about everything from the 8+ hours into 6 minutes.

    • @Aerogrow
      @Aerogrow Рік тому +5

      @@yisroel6 lol.... basically.

    • @Mitch19222
      @Mitch19222 Рік тому +1

      Watch Thelittleplatoon's review

    • @doinkindonut
      @doinkindonut Рік тому +1

      @@Mitch19222 Hahah yea, I watched it all xD was good stuff

  • @cartucho9658
    @cartucho9658 Рік тому +127

    -She is like " i dont wanna people to know that im blind."So she puts a big red cloth over her eyes
    -Smooth move yeah, that will do it.
    Best line ever

    • @scratthesquirrel5242
      @scratthesquirrel5242 Рік тому +12

      i know when i see someone with a blindfold on my first thought is "wow, that persons eyesight is so good they can see through it"🤣

  • @ericfaz1427
    @ericfaz1427 4 місяці тому +5

    I would love to see a pie-chart breakdown of what they spent $462 million dollars on. Because I sure didn't see that value.

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 4 місяці тому

      I've looked at price estimates and it's roughly 3x the cost of HOTD per episode if the cost of the franchise rights aren't included.
      This is not surprising. From a project management perspective, HOTD kept a limited set of locations for each episode (including real castles with natural lighting, which they screwed up a bit due to time constraints), limited use of CGI, and remained very character oriented.
      ROP had to fall back on big CGI shots like the montage of the wars of the Noldor, fantastical cityscapes, and immitating dragon age rather than Tolkien for dwarven civilization (they also stole the non-functional rigging of the numenorean ships from dragon age). It wasn't impactful because the people doing it were incompetent, but you can tell that they were throwing money at it.

  • @halofly3
    @halofly3 Рік тому +11

    Amazon exec: So your telling me the protagonist who just jumped off a ship on a whim while in the middle of the ocean, just so happens to bump into the one guy she’s looking to kill?
    Writer: Yep!!
    Amazon exec:…. Brilliant! Six seasons and movie!

  • @theonebman7581
    @theonebman7581 Рік тому +313

    Watching Pitch Meetings for shows I'll never even care enough to even consider bothering watching, to the point these videos are actually the very first time in my life I've ever even seen their titles, is TIGHT!

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +13

      Super Easy, hardly an inconvenience.

    • @recitationtohear
      @recitationtohear Рік тому +1

      Fr

    • @snoozley853
      @snoozley853 Рік тому +2

      Even even even even even

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Рік тому +6

      @@chasehedges6775 barely man, barely come onnn

    • @jeremybartlett1706
      @jeremybartlett1706 Рік тому

      @@UPedits... haha, I've not heard of this show, but let me say this: you were right...violence was right all along...

  • @euler4273
    @euler4273 Рік тому +605

    "Anyway, the elves need this stuff, or they are going to die"
    "Why"
    "Cause they'll die if they don't get it"
    That basically summarises it perfectly. The entire plot point is based on the elves being about to die. Why? Because they are, there is no reason for it, don't think about it too much. It is necessary for the plot.

    • @mkvv5687
      @mkvv5687 Рік тому +6

      It's the MacGuffin of the show.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury Рік тому +34

      @@mkvv5687 no, it's the JJ Abrams style "mystery box" that will quite literally never be solved.

    • @diegorodriguez2808
      @diegorodriguez2808 Рік тому +7

      To be fair that plot problem did not begin at Rings of Power, regardless it is a plot problem.

    • @timsaylor4390
      @timsaylor4390 Рік тому +7

      @@diegorodriguez2808 The worst part is that it is partially the canon reason the elves forged the rings but the writers are too stupid to explain it.

    • @diegorodriguez2808
      @diegorodriguez2808 Рік тому +2

      @@timsaylor4390 Absolutely granted, they're off by the long shot, I don't disregard however the potential entirely. The plot has some major holes, and the dialogue is off in multiple areas, however there was some good in it and it was by far the most aesthetically stunning shows this past year. It certainly derives from many Tolkien points and scenes, but need we forget that Jackson did too, and that the Lord of the Rings was a lot better laid out than Silmarillion? Not saying it wasn't bad in a lot of areas, but to hate it I'd say is overkill.

  • @haraldschnauzer223
    @haraldschnauzer223 Рік тому +22

    Thank you, this is a great summary of the stupidity and art destruction we had to endure.

  • @theduke9292
    @theduke9292 4 місяці тому +2

    You know one of these days someone on a production team will have to ask
    “What if we made a good show?”
    Everyone will laugh at him and say “that’d never work”
    But they decide to try it anyway and they will all pikachu face when their show is actually well received by their audience and turns a nice profit

  • @SithLord2066
    @SithLord2066 Рік тому +199

    This pitch meeting cost Ryan $35 to make, and it's way more entertaining than the Rings of Power show.

    • @college54114
      @college54114 8 місяців тому +3

      It cost him $35?

    • @SithLord2066
      @SithLord2066 8 місяців тому

      @@college54114 yeah he had to take time out of his regular day job to make this video for 2 hours, and he makes $17.50 an hour as a shift manager at Cinnabon.

    • @themarsh429
      @themarsh429 7 місяців тому +1

      Pretty sure you can't produce something this good for under $35,000,000.

    • @twistedsisterx7754
      @twistedsisterx7754 6 місяців тому

      It was more profitable then the $1B waste that will never get out of the red.

  • @RmnGnzlz
    @RmnGnzlz Рік тому +2674

    RIP Christopher Tolkien, you did an amazing job taking care of your father's legacy. Let's hope his family reconsiders the way they are managing it now.

    • @steve_ire321
      @steve_ire321 Рік тому

      Are you f*cking kidding me? Those idiots are to blame for what these charlatans did to Tolkien's work. They took Bezos' money and this was the result, so f*ck them. What I laugh at is that they were displeased with Peter Jackson's work. I reckon they're regretting that now. Or maybe not. Nothing a few billion can't mend.

    • @blurgle9185
      @blurgle9185 Рік тому +442

      Simon Tolkien, his son, was consultant on this. It seems the blood of Tolkien is all but spent, its pride and dignity forgotten.

    • @_ee75
      @_ee75 Рік тому +33

      After those millions? No way

    • @temite80
      @temite80 Рік тому +86

      Yeah ol' Simon isn't handling the ip with the same care is he.

    • @nagoranerides3150
      @nagoranerides3150 Рік тому +111

      @@temite80 I don't know. He didn't let them have the Silmarillion and I'd guess they failed the test and will never get it now. No one forced Amazon to make such a pile of shite, did they?

  • @PhobosDynami
    @PhobosDynami Рік тому +6

    One of my favorite gags is when screenwriter thinks he has an amazing twist like the tall guy being Gandalf, but producer guy says it isn't a good twist.

  • @guardianofthetoasters2323
    @guardianofthetoasters2323 Рік тому +7

    2:15 that cut was perfect

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Рік тому +55

    The most intriguing mystery of Rings of Power was which bit would be tight, what would be super easy, barely an inconvenience and what would prompt the wowowow response.
    I just couldn't choose, there were so many possibilities in each episode.

  • @PatrikLenghart
    @PatrikLenghart Рік тому +226

    I love how the makers of this show invested a billion bucks so this Pitch Meeting could happen. I am really thankful.

  • @RionTokymaka
    @RionTokymaka Рік тому +4

    Think I’ve managed to binge watch everyone of these now. They are amazing, comedic timing is a hard thing to master so being able to cut and paste it in during editing like this is truly exceptional.

  • @firebladetenn6633
    @firebladetenn6633 Місяць тому +2

    The only reason that the Gandalf reveal was a major twist was because there were a thousand reasons it absolutely should not have been Gandalf, not the least of which being that he cannonocally doesn't show up until about a thousand years after the last allience of elves and men when Sauron gets his finger cut off.

  • @HawerTipeZero
    @HawerTipeZero Рік тому +198

    "Omg you're serious" sums up what the writing of this series is.

    • @andrewfrankovic6821
      @andrewfrankovic6821 Рік тому

      Did you actually win something? UA-cam points? I hear they're redeemable on Amazon prime video.

  • @Asian0Riceballs
    @Asian0Riceballs Рік тому +186

    Epic hey shut up moment 😂😂😂. I literally laughed myself into a coughing fit when I saw that her freaking plan was to swim all the way back to middle earth ☠️

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 Рік тому +11

    This pitch meeting had more quality than the actual show

  • @vullnetdyla
    @vullnetdyla 5 місяців тому +5

    I wanna see a full version of this pitch meeting where Ryan pronounces every name of every character or place like that: Galadrriæl, Noomenourrrrr, Morrrrgoth, Saourron
    It’s my favorite part of this pitch meeting 😂