Batman v Superman Pitch Meeting: Revisited!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2023
- Step back into the pitch meeting and revisit the completely factual accurate conversation that led to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice! Complete with commentary from Ryan George who is now several years older!
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Ever wonder why Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was so divisive? Step into the pitch meeting that started it all!
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I like the idea that there is only one screenwriter and one producer making almost every major movie in Hollywood.
Sounds accurate to me lol
That would explain so much for me lmao.
There are different screenwriters and producers, but in this universe, everybody has the same face. You can tell them apart by the clothes.
There are different universes! Mandalorian season 3 pitch meeting confirmed it with the side quest!
The actual people are surprisingly samey some of them
I love how simply recounting the plot of the movie is the most damning criticism you could give the film XD no joke could be funnier than that screenplay
It's like the honest trailer for Jupiter Ascending
I love this film
It challenges the plan of the Joker in the dark night in how improbable it was.
@@DMHR100That movie is so overrated lol. Like every other Christopher Nolan movie, it is only good to watch once.
@@GeronimoPlaz stop trying to be different and just enjoy shit bro
My favorite part of Civil War was when Iron Man e-mailed Captain America to tell him they were no longer friends.
Saaaame!!
No way! Same!
I can’t believe it I also love that scene
It's a core memory
I still love the line "Marvel wishes they'd thought of an e-mail scene"
💀💀💀💀💀 lmfao
Man, I remember the 100th episode of 'Pitch Meeting', where he joked about the graphic designer of the thumbnails and the reason he makes them all with googly-eyes. Pretty funny actually!
Yea. That joke was very funny. Can't believe people are saying it never happened
Yeah I remember thinking 'it all makes sense now!'.
@@justindai8401 Must be the Mandella effect
Oh yeah I remember hearing that joke somewhere. Now that you mention it, obviously it was in that pitch
googly eye guy is definitely real, i've seen him make those thumbnails myself!
My favorite part of the 100th pitch meeting episode is when they cut to the new graphic designer with the giant eyes. Really explained the thumbnails.
Yes it totally happened, I remember it as if it were yesterday
What really sold it for me was the comedic foreshadowing in the previous video. Masterful way to pay it off...amazing!
Oh, the Mandela Effect is TIGHT!
Ryan must have re-uploaded that video and cut that part out, because I can't find it!!
Yeah I lol'd and thought oh boy that Ryan is so clever... when I watched the 100th the first time
The “Lex Luthor plan explanation” was pure genius
Luthor coming up with a convoluted plot actually makes sense. That's how the minds of mad geniuses work. The character started out as a mad scientist in the comics. Gene Hackman's Luthor portrayed it that way too. The cold and calculative mob boss attitude developed later. Luthor's also criminally insane in BvS before a stay at Arkham helps him develop into the cold and calculative mob boss in JL Snyder Cut.
@@AshrafAnamjust stop
@@ninjanibba4259 Did I hurt your ego, kid?
@@AshrafAnam more like my brain with your dumb shill logic
I love how whenever people are offended, they go straight to calling others "kid", sign of insecurities behind the screen
@@AshrafAnamlol..nah his plan is stupid.
The idea for Graphic Designer Guy to have giant eyes is hilarious, and that example of him at 10:10 is too good haha
I know! Wasn’t it brilliant that he put it in the 100th Pitch Meeting?
And he was like, "I love what I do, and I really put a lot of myself into my work."
@@catlord3117 It was definitely in pitch meetings before that!
God damn Ryan George incepting my mind!
This channel is Ryan's subtle and clever attempt to migrate from comedy into being a full-time artist.
I think at this point he's long ascended from that. I found him without knowing he originally started this working for screen rant and just saw random videos people sent me. He could do whatever he wanted career/comedy wise and people would still love him for being him.
This definitely reflects how far Ryan has come. This isn't a bad Pitch Meeting, but he's definitely gotten better.
Yeah, Ryan has definitely upped his comedic IQ and irony skills since he did this pitch meeting. I mean just compare this one with The Flash pitch meeting.
I kinda feel like people who are new to pitch meeting missed something by not seeing the evolution of Ryan
100% true
Since we do these revisits, I noticed one of the biggest differences (for me) is, how much more expression writer guy and studio executive have. They often use catchphrases still in place today but Ryan (and the other actor) mastered their delivery and expression. The lines are not as impactful in those earlier pitch meetings. One can clearly see how Ryan (and the other actor) improved over the years.
Edit: and Im so happy he got rid of the shaky camera. On fullscreen it caused slight nausea.
"and the other actor" 🤣
Yep I noticed that too. And in the second half of these revisited sketches his delivery is so crisp. Pitch Meetings are one of the few series I can watch twice so this format is perfect seeing a Pitch again after so long and really getting into his thought process. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
They've improved A LOT over the years. Acting/Timing is so good now.
Now if only we could get Zack Snyder to stop using shaky cam
It’s crazy how you weaselled your way into ScreenRant, but Pitch Meeting is the best thing they have
What do you mean "weaseled"?
@@dalekrenegade2596 That’s what he said, I’m just quoting
Holy crap, is that *the* Ryan George from the thing I'm currently watching? How Ryan can get such prominent guests never ceases to amaze me.
OK, that's seriously meta.
i love how screenwriter guy and producer guy actually became more charismatic and enthusiasm more smiling all the time.
They are in love
It's all the money they made over the years with the crap they were schilling the audience 😂
I don't. Their perma-smiles are the stuff of nightmares!
Yeah, this was just Ryan talking for the most part. These days he acts a lot more, which helps raise the quality a lot
It's just like Epic Voice Guy said in the Honest Trailer of Pitch Meeting. From normal guys to perma-smiling psychopaths.
It's so crazy how much different the energy is in these old ones. Almost like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. But the writing was so observant and funny that it held its own. But Pitch Meeting today is just pure fire. :D
Man, that "copy of a copy of a copy" line brought back a great Nine Inch Nails song for me, absolutely out of the blue, will go back to that album tomorrow, thanks!
Yeah he hadn't settled into his style yet, which is absolutely impeccable now, but the observation and comedy skills are definitely present.
What differences do you see to the newer pitch meetings?
@@calapinet he uses a totally different voice and cadence now, and the dialog is quicker/tighter
@@saulspeaks2557Producer Guy has evolved the most. Originally, he was just plain Ryan talking, while Writer Guy was more of a character since early on. A consequence is that Producer Guy lost a bit of his initial role as "the voice of reason".
"And he makes really high pitched Mickey Mouse noises" That line gets me every time. 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: that final joke with the cut off word was amazing.
You have to admire the fact that Lex Luthor took the time to design the logos for all of the heroes in his emails.
He didn't. They come from their respective suits (except Cyborg's, which is basically a C around a circle). That's what's brilliant and grounded about Snyder's world building. There's a why and how to everything.
@@AshrafAnamthey are designed logos
@@bern9642 THEY COME FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE SUITS
@@AshrafAnamcyborg's logo is in his head. It wasn't designed by Luthor either.
@@beastyyypie But only the circle. The thin C around the circle probably Lex's creativity. And I don't see anything wrong with it. A logo is the quickest way to identify an idea. That's what I love about DC...they have the most iconic logos and really emphasize on them. You don't need to say Superman or Batman or Aquaman or Flash, you just show the logo and everyone knows what you mean. Marvel really lacks that.
Returning to older Pitch Meetings always makes me appreciate how much more, like, fluid and fast-paced these videos have gotten. The acting and the editing are a lot smoother nowadays.
That "like" in the middle of your sentence was as much of a waste of space as you
Also, he changed the background.
Yeah he really honed his craft.
It's hard to explain the difference, bit definitely has progressed.
And he's stopped doing the random floating background thing as well, which I'm really grateful for.
The amount of movie scripts that SO many executives, actors, etc have read that didn't pick up on how absolutely convoluted the plots were is staggering
I see your pitch meetings not as mockery of the movies but humoristic in the way all the things we see in the cinema actually sound very outlandish and quite funny. In liked the last of Transformers, knowing it is already a formula to entertain kids, although the ending battle was too long, and I enjoyed a lot your pitch meeting of it. I cannot unsee Endgame from it x,D
“ then he’s gonna force feed Candy to a guy “ made that whole monologue worth every second
Surface level stuff like this really makes me wonder abut the level of Brainwashing in our society when it comes to what goes on with our politicians cause how do you watch one of our Elected Representatives giving a Rich Donor everything he wants only for the guy to then feed him a treat like he's a little doggy and just go "Hurh Hurh he made him eat candy"? Hell the fact that a guy like Lex has access to our politicians at all should give you pause.
There aren't many youtubers that could get away with revisiting old videos. It's a testament to how damned likeable you are. You kick ass Ryan!
The meatriding is crazy
Absolutely true!
@@danceyrselfkleenYou shouldnt watch Sports TV Then.
@@danceyrselfkleen evidently they have a point because you're here, too lol
Even more true since I've watched all these old pitch meetings like 5 times already
I love the plot summary in this pitch because no other pitch did this and it only serves to showcase how convoluted the plot is.
This is hilarious. I saw the movie in the theater, had NO idea what was going on, then went to sleep for the middle 2/3rds of it, and the only thing i remember is superman's funeral. Great stuff! Your pitch meetings are on the order of infinitely better than the movie they're about. Which is why you have to outlive me, because I'm going to need my Pitch Meetings.
I hope he brings back the graphic designer character with the giant eyes who makes the thumbnails. That was my favorite part of the 100th episode of pitch meeting where he pitches pitch meeting.
Honestly, the "googly eyes" were the only factor that stopped me from watching my first Pitch Meeting. They just made me feel, I don't know... weird. I finally gave in several months later and haven't missed one since!
The actual reason is UA-camrs have found that in thumbnails people would look more attractive if their eyes were slightly edited to be a bit larger. I thought Ryan was parodying those by making it ridiculously large.
I didn’t watch them because they made fun of my favorite movies. I was so dumb back then 😅
Ryan nailed it: Lex’s plot is mind-bottling!!
Thanks, Chazz.
I love your work Ryan, thanks for putting it out there! 😄 We're all our own worst critics though, like HONESTLY that dubbing on the flubbed line was entirely under the radar. I didn't notice a thing until you pointed it out, it was a fair fix if you ask me 🤷♂
I don’t know why, but for some reason this video reminded me of your 100th pitch meeting. Specifically the scene where you claimed to have found a great graphics design guy to do your thumbnails and then showed a pic of that guy having massive googly eyes, I loved that bit! :D
Yes, that was a great joke that was definitely in the 100th episode and not an afterthought.
Best joke in the 100th pitch meeting episode, hands down. Or up, idc.
That was a great joke! It's just shame that there is no way for us to check it
That was even funnier than that movie where Sinbad played a genie!
You can really see the development in Ryan's skills in terms of emphasis and action thanks to these revisits. In the best way possible, this one feels like a fan trying to make a tribute to Pitch Meeting. (Because he's improved that much over the course of making them.)
I 💯% concur
Yeah his editing has gotten tighter, his line delivery has gotten better and perhaps most importantly, his shit-eating grin has gotten bigger and more shit-eating.
Fans regurgitating catch phrases is tight.
5:35 Great Bat Deals are exactly why I come here. The Pitch Meetings are a nice bonus
Even you just describing the scene of you saying "Hey we got a new animator guy" [cuts to you with googly eyes] had me laughing just imagining it. Also makes me wonder, will you ever do a revisit to your pitch meeting of pitch meetings?
We need this for the four hundredth meeting
Watching young Ryan in this Pitch Meeting as both the producer and screenwriter is like watching young Mac and Dennis from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, specifically from when they're discussing their Dolph Lundgren scientist movie.
Full penetration then the movie just sort of ends 😂😂
Dolph Lundgren played by Dolph Lundgren?
Less confusing than giving someone a whole new name
I still want to see that movie made.
@@Drew-bc7zj this guy nose what’s up
Usually i'd say revisiting is lazy but this guy puts more good work in every video than other "creators" in 10.
I think the revisits also show Ryan's depth and what he goes through to get a pitch meeting put together. Taking notes replaying probably endless loops of movies and that's just the stuff he shares. I wish some people that I work with had that kind of work ethic 🙂 keep up the good work. Young man. Big fan
I've loved Pitch Meeting from the word go, your hilarious over-blown cynicism and the brilliant irony with which it's delivered. It's fascinating to see someone with your talent explaining how these come together and looking at your own work with a critical eye rather than defending points where you feel you missed perfection. Keep up the good work!
Revisiting a pitch meeting is super easy, barely an inconvenience
Oh really?
@@onyilimba yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!!
Dammit, every time when I watch a video, that "barly" pops in my head after that She-Hulk video! :D
it's pretty tight.
@@MarcelNL "Barly" popping into your head is tight!
10:24
So cool, with the delivery of a hilarious visual gag in the 100th pitch meeting, Ryan went back and updated all the thumbnails to capitalize on the joke. Truly inspired.
It's always nice to see you look back on your oldest pitch meetings. I hope you do The Last Jedi when the time is right.
Love these re-watches and the additional info, everyone i show your videos to loves them as well. Keep up the good work, and thanks!
The only reason i watch this channel, are the 2-for-1 bat deals, so good for you to finally remember why you have an audience in the first place.
I know, right?
You should still add the wide eyed graphic designer character by dropping them in whenever there's questionable cgi and art direction and play it off as if they've always been a part of pitch meetings. To implement it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience
The main thing in notice when you revisit these old pitch meetings, is the lack of energy. Idk what that’s all about, but you’ve gotten so much better, Ryan.
I don’t have a joke or reference, so, there ya go.
Love these “revisited” videos, input from the creative process is very interesting
This movie was such a train wreck, but the Pitch Meeting was *tight*!
You didn’t understand the movie and that’s okay.. you see it was a stylistic choice to make the characters uninteresting… Snyder brought these outdated characters into the modern world.
Definitely one of the marthas of all time
Oh, unintentionally making an error when trying to put the word in bold is *TIGHT!*
*wow wow wow wow!*
@@firstlast9846 It's one of the movies of all time. a marthapiece.
I absolutely love the fact that cats is your favorite pitch meeting that you've done, because as much as I love all of your pitch meetings, that one is by far my favorite and the one that makes me laugh the hardest.
"Jellicle Jellicle"
@@vitinamorabito7283 "So the moon's jellicle now?"
"That's right, the moon's jellicle, and you're just gonna have to deal with it"
That's my favorite too!
I genuinely laughed out loud at the googly eyes joke. That was good.
Hey Ryan, in a previous video, you mentioned that one of the reasons you don't do game or (many) TV show pitch meetings is because of the amount of content to consume and time involved.
I wondered if you've ever considered working with larger teams to produce pitch meetings of those kinds, or whether you'd want to keep it a relatively solo venture. I think your work is amazing, and you bring a lot of joy ro my life.
I hope your...everything... is going well.
We all love your work!
Love when a pitch meeting introduce more lore of the Ryanverse
I would LOVE just to sit with Ryan all day just talking about movies. He clearly has a grasp on this.
You're awesome!!!
And so cool that you even discussed your own mistake in a video. You're hilarious AND transparent. Thank you for being you!!
The whole idea for Batman v. Superman was inspired by Frank Miller's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. But in DKR they'd known each other for years, they were old friends but there was also growing tension as they'd begun to follow different paths -- the stakes were so much higher. They didn't get tricked into fighting by some villain's idiot plan, and they didn't stop fighting for some idiot reason.
😄👍 The 100th episode is still one of my most favorite ones! Unfortunately it's not something easily shared with people who haven't watched any Pitch Meetings before!
The level of honesty and transparency is just so heatening. The bit about the fluffed audio and the background behind that little nuance is wonderful. So much respect for the honesty and I'm sure that this self-awareness keeps you humble and keeps the quality high, just love it.
Well said.
You're editing skills for comedic effect are excellent!
I actually have a suggestion for a pitch meeting revisited video: Hotel Transylvania. I especially loved the fun little gag about producer guy shutting his brain off, had me laughing for quite a while. Would love to see what you think of it now, keep these videos coming George Ray-On!
PLEASE do pitch meetings for the 70s/80s Superman movies. They would be so funny.
All the dDC and Marvel shows from back then.
I would love it if he uses the wigs from Star Wars Episode 4 for that
I'd like to see Pitch Meetings for a lot of older movies, like Apocalypse Now!
I’m still waiting for Classic Films like Casablanca or Citizens Kane.
I'd love you to do The Dark Tower- a book adaptation that tried to please fans of the story and those who'd not read it, and completely alienated both!
He could do "The Stand" or the original "It" series for the same feel, and that's just King stories (although honestly, the end of the Dark Tower series just annoyed me with King adding himself to the story, let alone picking again on the guy who hit him and killed himself over all the crap he took for hitting a guy walking on the wrong side of a country road)
@@metheus108 I liked that part of it. When taken in context of the greater King universe of novels and short stories, making himself a character really worked for me. I'm a huge fan though, so I might be biased.
The movie was horrible, no two ways about it.
There’s a weird lesson here, I think.
Give King to Ron Howard and you get that.
Give Star Wars to Ron Howard and you get Solo.
🤔
Your missed opportunity joke was fantastic!!! Loved the image!
Really enjoying these revisits.
One of my favourite pitch meetings 🎉🦇v🦸♂️
A rogue ‘u’ slipped in there.
Whoops. Whoopsie. 😂
@@TimTE01 British spellings are tight!!
I’m just forever happy how you pointed out the ridiculousness of them completely stopping the fight because their mom had the same name. Pretty sure I laughed out loud in the movie theater and completely checked out at that point.😂😂😂 of the millions of options they had, someone really sat down in a producers office and let that get all the way to the big screen.. absolutely mind blowing.
Batman came to the conclusion he was nothing more than the robber that killed his mother Martha (if he went and kill Superman...)
@@Apexapee then he went and killed everyone at the warehouse. great character development.
@@Yashonehat he could at least justify .
@@Yashone He old, and tired of capturing thugs since they get released or freed anything from jail or Arkham
Hey it gave us some of the best DC memes ever.
Merci beaucoup Ryan pour ces vidéos incroyables ! Ça met tout en perspective !
Revisited is a brilliant idea, I was going to watch the meeting again anyways, getting the directors commentary as well is just a bonus! Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Wow wow wow, revisiting old pitch meetings is tight
Wow wow wow
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Wow
I love this. You should do a pitch meeting for Supergirl (1984).
‘So then the Witch uses the space battery to send a bulldozer to kill Supergirl because she accidentally made the man fall in love with her.
Why are you calling Security?’
Hey, remember in the 100th episode when we saw the editor with big eyes who was responsible for the googly eye thumbnails. Hahahaha what a great video
Just wanted to let you know that I have been using your catchphrases in everyday conversations 😂. For instance, if someone tells me they are sorry or that something will be difficult, I say "barely an inconvenience!". And if they tell me a story about someone I know, I say, " He's from the first movie!" It really freaks people out, and I love it! Thanks!
❤ these retro pitch meetings!
I would love to see you do a Pitch Meeting for David Lynch's 'Dune', one of those movies where the good bits are awesome and the bad bits are super awful!
He usually pitches movies most of the audience has seen, and that's not one of them, unfortunately.
@@davidm5707 You'd be surprised of the amount of people that know about that movie
"Ohhh, almost forgetting important pieces of exposition is TIGHT!!"
it’s certainly a fun watch!
that rope suspension bridge art behind you is awesome.
In addition to all the nice words everyone says about you, Ryan (which are all true, by the way) - the fact that you leave in the special guest appearances by your cats is much appreciated, Ryan.
I really enjoyed Ryan’s first ever starring role in “Asteroid City”. Great break out role 😂
Wait you mean he's actually in a Wes Anderson film? No way.
@@rogueguardianLol 😂 No, but the main character looks like him
Dan Murrell (Current ScreenJunkies Movie Fights champion and 5-time former Movie Trivia Schmoedown champion) wrote out Luther's plan in bullet points when they scripted the Honest Trailer for the movie.
He said it went on for pages and he had to cut a lot of it out for time when they listed in the final Honest Trailer.
He's great, btw. You guys should collaborate on something.
They did!! ua-cam.com/video/W8bQrTdgNSo/v-deo.html
5:44 That's not only okay, if you do it a few more times it's going to be required.
Ryan in Pitch Meetings has made me re-evaluate movies. I tried to watch Blade of The 47 Ronin and could not stop noticing how a character would say a line then *pause* another character would talk. Watching how Ryan has pulled this off made it so clear when there’s a bad director
I enjoy the revisit of the pitch meetings.
Keep it up, Ryan!
Did you guys know Ben Affleck has been in the most films as the character batman but never received his own
Right?😢😢
Kinda like the Hulk over on Marvel, right?
@@ChineduOparaThe Hulk had a movie in the MCU though; it's just no one cared about it. Unless you meant when after Mark Ruffalo starter playing the MCU Hulk; the first MCU Hulk was Edward Norton before he got replaced.
Well, clearly that's what he's referring to, because he's talking about actors within the role. Otherwise, "Batman" has had several movies of his own
@@Matthew-ve7uv While this is true, it never hurts to check, especially since the main difference is that there *is* a solo Hulk movie within the MCU yet it's *very* easy to forget it even exists. So I wouldn't blame anyone for just...not knowing it exists, especially when it pretty much never got referenced again beyond General Ross (R.I.P. William Hurt).
I love all your vids, def one of my favorite content creators.
Out of all the characters you’ve created, who do you think would be the main protagonist of the Ryanverse?
Ryan, your Pitch Meetings should be mandatory viewing for ALL screenwriting and filmmaking programs
Hey Ryan! Love your videos. I was wondering if you've ever felt pressured to do a Pitch Meeting for a certain movie that you didn't want to do? Or at least pressured into doing it by a certain time
For example potentially feeling pressured to make a Pitch Meeting for a movie in the MCU while it's still in theaters instead of an "older" movie
Understanding Lex's plan was super difficult, very much an inconvenience!
It is so cool that you found such an inspired graphic designer for your thumbnails.
Pretty crazy that they make thumbnails look like themselves but I guess that's the world of UA-cam, everyone just kind of looks like different versions of themselves.
Ryan love your videos my man! Keep em coming!
Love these revisits!
I mean, screenwriter guy is rehearsing "Yes sir, I do!" for years now, surely producer guy will eventually get the hint.
It's in a different video, but you guys going after those in the comments saying "barely and inconvenience" is fantastic. I love it.
I love that you do these. The video's themselves are good fun but it's really interesting to see it switched up with your perspective on the video's.
Also interesting to see how critical you are at your own work. Makes me wonder if the video's you are really critical of did worse as well?
That is both illuminating and hilarious to know that the catchphrase is so important, you have to go through a mile's work to make sure it's included sometimes 😂
"So the movie can happen." has become my go-to answer whenever I'm watching a movie with someone and they're like "but why did character do dumb thing?" 😂 It honestly does help me get over bad/lazy bits of writing and let me just enjoy a film for what it is though.
Mine was always "because that's what the script says" but I respect his version of it
I love the googly eye thumbnails. Also I distinctly remember the Venom thumbnail with the non-pointy teeth getting me on the floor laughing
Well you describing that "lost joke" made me laugh out loud!
You know what would be a fun idea for a Pitch Meeting? You should do a Double Feature episode of Barbie and Oppenheimer when both hit theaters in 3 weeks!
wow wow wow wow, that'd be SICK!!
So many options;
1) Double feature episode
2) Make both pitch meetings, then upload them under reversed titles & thumbnails
3) Make one really confusing pitch meeting for both at once
Screenwriter Guy: "I actually have two movie idea-- oh oh no! I, uh, dropped the scripts... I'll just shuffle them together, it should be fine."
I’m waiting for Barbie MEETS Oppenheimer!
@@SeiranSong This is the way
The way to Barbenheimer
Hey Ryan, love the series! Ever had a random "oh boy, I gotta put this in a pitch meeting" moment?
I wanna ask questions but this is the best one I've come up with
I didn't understand what Ryan meant by not putting in the big eyed designer joke, I remember it clearly, it was a big moment from episode 100.
Bringing things back that were already hilarious is tight
I wonder if these videos are making actual studio executives feel like complete idiots. Because that's literally what these videos are doing and I love it😂
I really enjoy Ryan George v Ryan George!
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
I love the googly eyes ! It attracts my attention to your PM's when I'm scrolling to find new stuff to watch on UA-cam !