Nokia Lumia 830 Review: Midrange Yes, Flagship No | Pocketnow
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- For legions of upgrade-starved Microsoft fans, the Lumia 830 is as close as it gets to exciting in the opening months of 2015. But does this so-called “midrange flagship” deserve its ambitious title? Let’s find out. Join us as we seek out the answer in our Lumia 830 video review!
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You know you're a geek when you watch a video review for a phone you'd never consider buying for a platform you couldn't care less about.
thats me everyday lol
Who cares for a certain platform? and why should I care?
I buy what I like and there are a lot of people that like WP.
Us nerds huh :)
UltraFighter18 Exactly
:fist bump: Mobile geeks unite. ^M
really loved this phone when it came out. had all the essential apps . was fast enough. picture quality was excellent for the time and still have amazing photos.
If you guys have doubts about this phone, don't. I've owned it for over a year now and it still performs beautifully.
Mine lasted 5 years and countin
Been using Android since 2009. Bought Lumia 830, 6 months ago... Never again I will join Android army or consider anything else. Windows 10 is running fantastic on 830. Also, 80% of this review is wrong, at least for me - You can't feel the back cover moving (4 different 830 tried). Apps are all there. I searched today for PDF reader of some kind: 300+ apps. Calendar with nice Live Tile: 400+ apps. Background noise? Nope, nobody said that to me. Asphalt 8 lagging? Nope, and I play a lot of games. I don't have a problem with the speaker since it's much better in quality than any phone I used (Sony Z3, Note 3, HTC Sensation, OnePlus, Zopo 780 etc...). Windows is getting better with version 10. So I'm a really, really happy user of this phone. Everything just works, no updates unless it's broken. I can even chat with Microsoft service via my phone if I have a problem and I don't even live in major region as a customer (Croatia, Europe) + my issue was resolved in minutes. I was hating Windows for years, but wanted to give it a try... Now I'm hating Android. If you wanna jump in and use it as a daily driver - this is the time.
Well your missing out...
+Anak ni Pilo It was good, whole day without a problem. Even better in Win10. Now on Lumia 930. Anyway, my opinion is the same - very happy with Windows devices so far.
+BeatGates have you tested it watching videos on youtube with screen brightness on maximum and in maximum volume,im interested with the lumia 830 wanna try wp,can you pls tell me how long will the battery last if you try it
+BeatGates how does the front camera compare to iphone? or is it good enough ? i think i have to get one if its that good
+Muhd Hakimi Front camera is OK, nothing special. Never used iPhone so far so I can't compare. Best thing to do is find a store that has a device there for testing, so see it yourself.
Michael makes me watch reviews even if I'm not interested i n the phone.
Seen these on Newegg for more than 300 dollars. Skipped on over to eBay and bought two of them for 40, that's 20 dollars each. I might try out the camera, if I can figure out how to work it, but I'm just mostly gonna use them as music devices.
Welcome back Michael . I'm happy to see you
They say lack of users. But I'm sure the banks pulled it because of Apple pay. Probably signed exclusive deals
Just another amazing review as always.
Honestly, a removable battery and expandable storage is something that should be more common. I don't understand why it's getting so common for phones to not have these features. Given the choice of 2 phones with identical featuresets aside from one having expandable memory and a removable battery, i would think a customer is more likely to choose the one with the expandable storage and removable battery.
But what do I know? I'm just a consumer.
***** I have a Moto X and I'm loving it but the battery started showing problems. Realizing I can't go to my local electronics store and get a new one for 15-20€ but instead I have to send the device and shit like that makes me not even consider non-removable battery smartphones in the future.
+frimer the LG g4 has a removable battery and it's so much better then the 830
you can use lumia camera 5 just by pressing twice the back button after the alert appears
Thanks for the tip! We can confirm it works on our demo 830 ... but higher-end LC5 features remain disabled, likely because the background processing required is beyond the S400's capabilities. ^M
missing this phone like crazy. this was my last windows phone back in 2015 ;(
Black frame and green backcover.Awesome!
Did Michael sound different to anyone else?
he sounds like he has a cold
Sure, he sounds like he just finished with a 4th round ( you know what I mean) :)
came to the comments to confirm my suspicions :D sounds different to me too, my bet is on a cold too
I was hoping from a response from himself lol
Loved the goodbye part :D
Good video, I have Lumia 830, The speed of the camera improved alot with the firmware:8.10.14234.375, but, Microsoft should improve the interface and multitasking, WP has no lag, but displays messages like:Resuming or Loading, or Wait, with 3 animated points, that is annoying.
They should improve the music and video applications too, the way the phone is placed in silence, integrate all camera applications in a single one, the S400 fell short, must have had at least S600, a better front camera, the battery and the sound could be better too....
On the other hand, the lack of applications such as Wifi Analyzer (There are none in this style, apparently problems with its APIs), MomentCam, etc, which are always released first for iOS/Android, and the WP users, have to wait months to see if perhaps, they have some luck.
Btw, WhatsApp notifications in WP 8.1 = fail...
+3lectronic0 for 200 $ phone is more thang perfect
When I first saw the 830 announcement I thought it would be my next phone, since I need an upgrade from my aging Lumia 520, it looked like the perfect phone since it had some features that the 930 didn't, like Glance.
However looking at it now the shortcomings over the 930 really make the 930 worth getting over the 830. It isn't much more expensive over here in Australia so what's the point of getting the 830? Think of it like this, the 830 is like a standard version of a car and the 930 is the better version of the same car. It'll look like a nice car until you pull up alongside the better version, and then you'll feel cheap because you bought the lower end model, the same goes with the phones.
I agree, my friend has the 930 so i'd thought i'd try the 830 (first windows phone) just to be a little different but now i'm regretting it.... don't get me wrong the 830 is nice but for that little bit extra you can get a "great" version of the same thing.
in that sense there is no point, get the 930. my only issue is that it is a fair amount bulkier than the 830.
juffurey
It's not that bad really. For me something like the Lumia 920 is considered "bulky", the 930 is fine honestly. Anything beyond that is just being nit-picky.
Same here when I saw the 830 I instantly fell in love, but since my carrier doesn't have the 830 I took the 930 for my upgrade. And I must say that the extra money is worth it, especially the 930's camera.
Only thing that 830 has over 930 is the sd card slot and glance screen otherwise given the price difference,930 is much better in nearly every way
also no one said 830 was a flagship,they call it an affordable flagship so its understood that its a mid ranger
the cons of this phone,mentioned in the review are a bit too vague and i think MF reviewed it from the eyes of a high end buyer and was too hard in the phone
its a fine phone even if its $100 overpriced,atleast in India and the SD400 is no stunner but its no slouch either
my verdict- Lumia 830 - Overpriced by $100 yes, slouch- no
im sure , android users will undermine it as usual and will bicker but WP is not android,so this phones hardware doesnt need octa core etc to run properly and will easily match the performance of android on an SD800/801 imho ,except where ram is a need, 1gb ram is great for everything but for FHD mkv files and some intensive games ,youd be better off with a 2gb ram+ lumia such as the 930
that being said,the 830 is no slouch and is the perfect buy for people who need an sd card slot for more storage and a smaller display with glance
for everything else,theres Lumia 930!!
I really like your reviews!
Man, I remember back in 2015 when I was getting my first cellphone. I had the choice between this and the Samsung Galaxy Prime and I wanted this phone so bad because it seemed so futuristic and beautiful to the eye.
I ended getting the Galaxy Prime because of the price point, and honestly that was most likely the right choice. If I had invested into windows phone back then I was most likely going to wind up disappointed and melancholy of the fall of Windows phone as a platform. I still am to some degree, but not nearly as much as if I had actually used it on a daily basis.
Been an android man ever since, and I'm currently using a Galaxy S20 plus having previously come from the Sony Xperia XZ3. Hopefully microsoft can revive windows phone in some fashion, but I doubt it'll ever happen. For now I'm just going to be nostalgic.
I've had that phone for 3 years and yes the lack of apps and 3rd part support was really disappointing....I'm an android user now but i still miss my 830 so bad. Btw nokia has been now sold to HMD and it makes mediocre Android nokia phones lol. Windows phone is unfortunately dead for a long time and is probably never coming back
I don't think HMD makes mediocre phones, but the back design is generic
Hello guys....since the battery is removable.. is it possible to change the battery with a higher capacity one???
I had this phone from 2015 until 2018 when it suddenly boot loop. Since then I had Samsung, and now, Nokia again. But still, L830 has the best camera I've ever used. I fan shoot photos and video with cinematic/professional feel. Phones these days have multiple cameras and higher resolution but this one stil lhave the best picture quality I've seen
look at all that beautiful snow :( i hate living in the part of Australia that never gets any..
Finally! Thanks Michael!
I have to agree with everything about the 830... I'm thinking of selling mine and upgrading the 930. The only things i'll miss are the glance screen and smaller form factor.
Also anyone having problems once connected to wifi and "no internet access"?
I've just ordered mine at 250 euros (more or less 288 us dollars), here in Italy.
the choice between this and 930 wasn't really simple i got to say, but this have micro SD support, better battery life, and it's almost 100 € cheaper than his big Brother.
Glad you found a good fit! Let us know how it turns out after a few weeks; we'd like to know how the 830 holds up for you. ^M
for sure!
truthfully the 930 has great battery life, the 830 has a little better but it isn't anything to worry about. But yeh its all about choice and if glance and sd outweigh the smoothest phone possible and a gorgeous oled screen then yeh the 830 is a great choice, otherwise 930 but both great phones.
***** I can actually change my battery on the 930 it just isn't a 2 sec job, more like a 40 sec job. the sd slot and the e really to me the only real features that would sway my mind. As I'm currently on about 22gig music and still have 8gig on my 32gig phone itll be a year or 2 become I need above that. Would I like a sd slot well yeh ofc. glance is awesome too, id love that feature. But as I own both the 830 and 930 its the amoled screen that's the real winner here and the main reason the 830 sits neatly on my desk and the 930 in my pocket. Add that to the super silky smooth, possibly smoothest phone I have ever seen, with snapdragon 800 vs the 400compared to the 830s, near iPhone smoothness but not quite then well the 930 wins my heart, but yeh id love the 930 to have a sd slot and glance, but not at the expense of those 2 features. the 830 is a great phone but it is a mid ranged phone.
***** Pocketnow Actually the 830 has arrived with some problems and flaws, so I sent it back and now I have a 32Gb LG G2 with I'm completely falling in love! especially with the Lollipop update!very good battery life, awesome display, discreet camera and with the Snapdragon 800 soc it's Always snappy and responsive! oh, and I paid it only 250 bucks! I don't care 'bout G3, G4... the G2 is enough for me and with this deal I couldn't be happier! :)
So HAPPY with this phone. 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼
Wasn't much of a fan of the 1080p AMOLED on the Lumia Icon, but I'd still rather have that than a 720p LCD. Also, I would call this camera much more than just a mid-range shooter. Colors look just as good, if not better than, my Sony Z2 and Megapixels, shMegapixels!
Agreed. As we said in the narration, once LC5 lands properly, this will possibly be the best midrange camera around. ^M
Good review.
Was that your cat in the second picture sample?
The black and gold Lumia 830 is the prettiest thing I have ever seen. 930 internals in this would work wonders! However the placing of usb is really awkward!
I've spent a good while deciding between 930 and 830, coming from a 920. Sure, the 930 is better in just about anything. The problem with the Lumia 900+ series is that Microsoft packs capable cameras in phones that have a disappointing 32 Gb storage limit (with around 28 available). In the end, what made me buy an 830 was its expandable storage option. Now if a Lumia 940 had a micro sd slot or at least a 64 Gb version, that would made me consider another upgrade. For now, I am happy with my 830, which is a very decent phone by the way.
Can you do a 630/635 review? Or comparison
Good midrange windows phone comparable to htc 8x? Needs front and rear camera and should be below 400
i have a lumia 830 and i am very happy with it, is better than my old lumia 720, even if the screen glance on my old lumia 720 is a little bit better than glance screen of lumia 830. the only down of lumia 930 is the missing of an microSD card slot. on my lumia 830 i have an 128 GB microSD card and apps take almost 30 GB, plus another 30 GB on photos and video recs. so, at least i am happy with 830. 9/10
I'm hesitating... Should i buy the nokia lumia 830 or the sony xperia z3? And why?
Can you help me?
Thank you ! :)
I was thinking about getting this phone since I have SOME hope for Windows Phones but I think I might get a Note 3 off AT&T.. I currently have a 635 and it's nice but Microsoft is slacking with these "Flagships" since spec wise... comparing this phone to whats out you can save money and just get a Moto G unless you really want a camera..
With 635$ you could buy a nexus or oneplus?? Or even the new moto x especially with the deal going on for 140$ off
Justin Blancarte he is talking about lumia 635 ;)
Emil Jensen oh I see! I thought he meant 635 to spend on a new phone, thanks
What is flagships?
Delagrim You should get the Lumia 830. Great phone! :) You don't need a high end phone to experience Windows. Almost all of Windows features work on low and mid range.
Here in Brazil you will find the 830 costing around USD 230 to 300 unlocked the 930 you can find for around USD 450, it's a substantial amount and I don't know if it's worth it to buy the 930 specially in my case since I thinking of buying to be my secondary phone, the camera seems to be a lot better than they say in this review basing in all other reviews of this phone including the other reviewer from this same chanel, and I think it's a better phone overall than other mid range phones, specially when you find the phone for USD 230 in some Internet deals.
Please give us a review of the Lumia 730.
Those active tiles with live feed must suck up the battery on all windows phones..
is the 830 worth "upgrading " to from my lumia 1020?
***** I have seen it multiple times but still cant decide. i really like the design of the 830, micro SD card, removable battery.
but dont like that its an LCD panel.
Micheal !
The 930 is on AT&T shelves!
it's on sale there
I call bogus on this. If this were the case I would already have one.
No, that's not true. www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/smartphones.html ^M
Which phone are you using Michael ?
I'm eager to know as I've always liked your choice !
I carry the Lumia 1020 alongside a 2nd-gen Moto X. ^M
Thats amazing! What do you think of lumia 930 ? I own an iPhone 6 but want to try a high end windows device ! I've heard 930 gets too hot while performing some tasks ! Is that true ?
Hmm im lucky in picking this phone up for $320 here in Australia from a person who had a spare lol. For that price its a brilliant phone but buying outright from the stores its around $480 which is way too much in my opinion. Might as well go for the 930 at that price or go down to the 735 which sounds like a brilliant phone.
I got the 930, and I have to tell you that the rich capture plus the new algorithms, will blow your mind!
If you have the money, to buy 930 over the 830,give them. You will thank me.
I usually like your reviews but this one I dnt think u did a great job. Are you reviewing the 830 or the OS ecosystem? Because I use the 830 and the 930 I have to say that the only down fall I see is the lack of denim camera. The slim fit on the 830 I'd a big plus and I really dnt notice a big difference in screen quality.
We always take ecosystem into account when reviewing any device. Furthermore, the 830 stands to be the most modern Windows Phone available for a few months more at least, making those observations even more crucial. For 830 vs 930 discussion, see our dedicated comparison: pocketnow.com/2015/01/29/lumia-930-vs-lumia-830 ^M
Michael You are one of the best tech youtubers ever...the way you present anything especially windows phone is awesome because I'm a windows phone fan :P and there are many myths atound wibdows phone which you clear but nevertheless there are some ignorant sheeps and droidfans and they ever will be keep doing at what you are best your recent fan...
The photo at 6:05 is goregous. It looks like a wallpaper-kind photo.
I love the Lumia 830. Friggen awesome phone. I don't know why people want a high end phone. Windows 8 runs fine on low end or mid range with basically no problems.
Sir,
Which one is the "Best ? FAst? Smooth? Good performer for professional use between (830 vs 640 / 640XL ) ??? I don't care of Camera / Video / Audio / Music ...
You could tell that this phone is in trouble when Michael Fisher starts talking about Spotify, banks, the app gap and Microsoft Band. Nice review though. I'm hoping that an oem releases another phone with 41 mega pixel camera.
Glance for the win - 830 it must be. And yes - in the midrange it's a flagship.
Why is it not fully Denim?
I'm probably gonna buy this phone
@jonah travisano how no way, a better camera, replaceable battery, up to 128gb SD card, thinner, better sound recording, color changing faceplates, better Dolby support, I see lots of wins, the only plus the 920 has is its form factor(which is a plus on the 830 too) and how durable it is. (830 is durable too)
Just got one, loving it. If gazillion apps are your thing then its not for you, otherwise its a great phone.
I want windows phones to be back! T_T
That app gap tho!!
I just came here for Fisher and the phone. :p
I don't think is going to get the full denim update. Reason look at it is struggling. If the update is small but then again why not do it from the beginning.
it will..
Julio Cuello You didn't gave a reason or reasons why it will get the full update. I can be wrong but it is struggling with low memory. Imagine when it gets the full update it is going to be sluggish. That is what I'm basing my opinion on. Facts evidence!
This is a Firmware Update, not an OS update. Neither of them would cause the device to go slow or anything closer, it's the other way arround, better overall performance.
It will 'cause it is PureView enable device.
Julio Cuello Well let's see who is right when it comes out. I still think that I'm right base on how sluggish is now. I'm showing actual and not going on what I think. Just point that because you haven't have me a concrete hard evidence that you are right. That is all u have to said. Enough said you get where I coming from. Done!
The price difference is Australia is like 4/5ths of the 930. It straight up makes ZERO sense to buy a Lumia 830 outright here. Hell, at one point it was cheaper to get a 1520 before stock ran out. DUMB.
Also, design wise; I would prefer a bottom mounted USB port, curved edges on the sides (similar to the 925, but with a flat bottom like the 920), front or side firing speakers, and a less pronounced camera disk. Everything else about the design is quite nice.
Same with the US
Wawaweewa Rice .same here in Malaysia. The 930 is just RM 300 higher than 830 RM 1399 price point. Slimmer design and the memory expansion is the only plus of 830 compared to 930.
This video was uploaded tomorrow.
I'd would take this over the 930 any day.
What happened to the 930? I feel like Microsoft disowned it or something
Only lumia 1530 will replace my 1520 , for the 830 , i think its still not a bad midranger
The cat looks kinda like mine. :3
there are something weird about Michael's voice in this video :O
It's a good phone!
@sammyflinders So True 😃
problem for windows phone is they focus too much on camera... microsoft.. 40mp lumias have failed , move on and improve the other aspects... dull design , apps , multitasking...etc..
Agree with this review completely. Nokia/Microsoft made the mistake of trying to sell this phone as a flagship based on its design, not its specs. If you live outside of the States, there's little to no reason to choose the 830 over the 735/730. If you live in the States, the phone is too expensive to justify compared to last year's Lumia 1520 or even the HTC One for Windows.
totally agree,except it was never called a flagship,it was called affordable flagship aka midranger
flagship was simply a misinterpretation
really they try to sell this as a flagship? Weird as the 930 and the 1520 are both out there before this phone. Why are people using the term flagship here, I just don't get it. I thought flagship was designed to meet the best device the company has, with the highest spec and latest tech? Can anyone help me here?
***** during the unveiling etc,it was called an "affordable flagship" but people like to misinterpret it as a "flagship"
what MS really meant was a mid ranger,they never called it a flagship
"affordable flagship"=midranger
Karthik Naik nice thks matey that's why people kept saying flagship lol.
I thought WP performed well with low specs? Hmm
it does
spotify is just poorly coded on WP,see the reviews and youll see what i mean
there are slight loading times for certain apps but its not abnormal over another OS such as android or ios and is on par with most apps
Earlier versions performed almost flawlessly on sub-par hardware, but since 8.1 we've seen performance more in line with other platforms. Windows Phone still runs quite well on midrange/low-end hardware, but it's no longer the big distinction it once was (especially given Android's recent improvements in this regard). ^M
point taken though im disappointed with the performance of my Nexus 5 on Android Lollipop,even the design wasnt well thought out
I ended up downgrading to Kitkat and my Nexus 5 is literally back to life after the misfortunate upgrade to 5.0
though I will give google credit for fixing bugs and releasing 5.0.1 because 5.0 was totally unusable with the battery and wifi bug which was supposedly fixed before the OTA but wasnt
I do find my 720 slightly slower on 8.1 than on 8.0 and I think camera performance was best on the Portico Update than on the later builds but I still feel 8.1 is smoother than android kitkat or lollipop on similiar hardware
ios 8 has certainly caught up in optimising older hardware and is faster on the ipad 2 than when it was on ios 7 or even ios 5 and 6
Hopefully Windows 10 might be the "ios 8" of the Windows Phone software releases going by the fact that they rewrote the OS alot to optimise it(rumour)
Karthik Naik You're leaving the point of this comment by introducing Android and iOS. Lol
Pocketnow Android improvements in this regard? Ha! What improvements? You mean "Google improvements", android is still laggy and slow on almost all midrange and low-end smartphones (except for moto E and Moto G maybe)... even samsung S5 and LG G3 seems slow and a little laggy after 2-3 months of use, that do not happen with WP
@Bryan P Nope. Contrary actually.
Like the phone , just not the OS
Always Lumia 1020 ❤😍
@Ali Alqushery hahah true
Ugh.....windows phone, would be better a version with Android, good video
+Luis Gag haahah lol whindols is much better than android i have htc one and lumia 830 i dont even know where i put my htc every new update on android is worse then before
Why cant they just allow the Amazon app store or something like that?
because the app stores between these three guys is just them measuring dicks... microsoft wants to show they can pull their own store, like android and apple did
nah android apps are a pita on other platforms(and android itself Lol :D )
the only thing missing from WP app store is Snapchat,some bank apps and some games(the latter is totally unnecessary in any smartphone imho)
also the app situation is a massive overhype in WP,there are a few missing apps here and there but not enough to make me want to switch to another OS totally,all the necessary apps are there
but of course thats my opinion and everyone should probably check the app store to see which of their fav apps are missing
hi
Wonder if the 1520 is still a best bet among all Nokia/MS phones. Thoughts, guys?
no i don't think so.... but for screen yes it is
Yep... Thanks for viewing... The 830 is a nice looking phone ,but in no way is it an upgrade for us 920 users looking for a new phone... I'll be waiting till the next windows flagship shows up.
still, a ClearBlack IPS LCD has much, much better black levels than a normal one.
Looking at the 830 alongside the One M8 for Windows, it's a tossup. ^M
Pocketnow ah jes, a flagship phone would be an exception.
i bought the 735 and is wonderful, even looking at it a 160º/170º i can read a pdf or see a picture whit out a single problem and the clear black makes it even better in low light i can't see where is the edge of the screen...
@Jeffrey Heesch windows phone is really good. I can't stand the support cluttered android. You have guess stuff while using it. There is no consistency
I know lumia 830 is overpriced..but in India its difference is price against 930 isn't marginal..I like the phone..but Michael seems to b frustrated with a lack of a flagship..
I'm subscribed for almost a year
And this is the first video to dislike
Actually the phone runs pretty smooth (and I'm using 1520) so there is a gab in the performance but not that it will make something unusable or a pain as you said
Yea maybe its a bit more expensive but its for the premium looks and I think you have a defected cover because I held 2 and the were not bending
But at least I have to agree on the app gab because I use m8 alongside my 1520 and I find my self sometimes forced to use it
And I think its the longest comment ever written 😜
Not a bad phone, but speaker/earpiece/microphone quality are inferior.
Hi can ayone tell me when lolipop update for s4 will come #pocketnow
C'mon, guys. Its funny show juvenile What's your opinion about that, guys !!
I almost did not recognize Michael's voice. He seems like catching flu.
Michael you sound different in this video. Are you sick?
posted on my bdag
1 gig is just so disappointing. The camera doesn't replace/substitute speed and performance.
An IPS display is a disappointment ? WHAAAAAT ?
come again 2024 ❤️👍
I have to differ Michael, I think the 1520 is still the real flagship for Windows phone
Michael your nose sounds stuffed lol
as good as 830s camera and build qulity are, i would go for 730, its Much better option than this..
Where do you live? Beautiful city.
Is this worth $100 in 2016?
Yes.
Calling this camera a midrange shooter is plain wrong, since this camera is better than that of Iphone6 and 6s.
+Corsa15DT yes... i have this phone... and that camera is pretty good... no wonder its really expensive for a mid range phone...
it's mid-range for WPs, remember the Lumia 1020?
Why do you remind of Matt le blanc? Lol