Protecting Yourself While Living In an RV: Proving Ground 13 - Video 3
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In the finale Proving Ground 13 video, the trainee's apply what expert trainer Pete Bosquez taught them about how to win the fight against a knife attack. See if they successfully complete the scenario and thwart the would-be attacker.
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QUESTION: What would you have done in this scenario?
Lose the pepper spray.
Pepper spray or knife knife wins, Knife or gun. gun wins, if pepper spray is all you have go with it, Keeping your gun on you Or within arm's reach This is key.If you move the gun moves with you, Now this doesn't mean that you have to be on Red alert all the time it just means you have your tools on you. And that is what I would have done. This is another great video and a great training tool for us thank you.
@@carryonpastrong5146 I am glad you enjoyed the video! Out of curiosity, have you been sprayed with pepper spray?
@@USCCAOfficial No I haven't. Don't think I want to experience it ,Though I am told once you are Sprayed you still can fight through that .
Had the door locked in the first place.
Lock the door. It would have given them a little more time if he broke in, and maybe deterred him. I think that maybe I'd want to have more weapons in different parts of the RV and maybe keep on myself too.
“You being The normal wife, you’re not satisfied “ her face went down.
As a full time rv family we make it a habit to flip the lock as we close the door. Theres not much keeping someone out so that lock is so important to give you the seconds you need to get your weapon before your door is pried open or kicked through. Make it a habit and it wont matter what time it is you will be ready. Dogs are great for rvs because of the thin walls they can hear everything approaching your unit and I know mine def will have something to say about it, even if they just warn you that someones outside your rv or home. Protection dogs paired with firearms training and some hand to hand skills will truly give you a peace of mind and allow you to enjoy life no matter where you are or what you are doing. Be responsible and stay safe.
I said the same thing, as we are campers to
When in for the night, Lock the door.
I tend to do that as well, Gary.
I lock my doors coming and going even in the daytime, even if I'm only going out in the yard or out to the truck, and even for just a minute or two. Same thing with keeping my truck locked.
Years ago I was working in my office proper with the front door unlocked. I stepped into the back room for just a minute, then went back into my office proper. After a few minutes, I heard the toilet flush in the restroom in the hallway. I little boy about 8 years old came out of the bathroom, stuck his head into my office proper and said with a big smile on his face, "Thank you!" then walked out the front door. Never knew he had even come in. I would never disallow a parent to bring their child into my office to use the restroom. When you gotta go, you gotta go. But from that time forward I always kept the door locked to keep people from sliding right in out of my sight without my knowing about it, and put a small "Please Knock"note on the door.
Like what you said, "It is my RV, it is my home.". I'm going to keep my firearms loaded and near or on me. Plus, I'm going to keep the door locked.
Roger that. A locked door could have given them an extra 2 or 3 seconds to react
I always keep my weapon loaded, one in the chamber, and on my person at all times. If I had a RV my wife would have one of the guns we have close to her as well. Also I train with any weapon so I can use anything I use for my defense in my left or right hand. Last I always know the condition my weapon is in and where all my guns, knives, etc. so if I need to defend myself I can.
I am glad to hear you are keeping up with your training, James!
I can’t believe the quality of these training sessions it is truly amazing
I always keep my firearm close by. Whether it be on my person or under my table. Nobody can predict when something bad is going to happen so you should ALWAYS be prepared.
That is very true, Shawn. You can never be too prepared.
Have a weapon on you! From Smith and Wesson Shields to Glock 43 to Kimber Micros, keep a weapon on you and at an easy reach at all times. Also, LOCK THE DOOR?? Did this bad guy just walk right in? Always, Always, ALWAYS, lock the doors. Those few seconds between a locked door, and a bad guy trying to kick it in and open it, can make a lot of difference.
It appeared that he walked right in, Tommy. Locking the door could certainly have been beneficial.
Thank you- I’m grateful for the work all y’all do for us.
We are always happy to help out, Jason!
How about locking the door?
That could definitely help!
Outstanding simulation! I've done this before an it still can rattle you. You never know which way it will play out. Keep these simulations coming.
As an OTR truck driver, this certainly raises a concern many of us have when parking in the unknown
That's why I carry in my truck!!!!
Those are very legitimate concerns to have.
i drove OTR for a few years & 3 times i was VERY thankful that i had my black powder 44 with me.
Excellent, excellent, excellent! This scenario was so real and the campers did much better. My biggest thought/question is its dark, why are all your blinds up making it easy for anyone outside to know who and where you are? Maybe the blinds needed to be up to record. It has always been a safety issue for me, when the sun is dowm, so are the window coverings. Great job!
That is a very good observation!
Plus all the lights in the RV seemed to be on, calling attention to them.
i remember as a kid when pappy heard something the lights got flicked off & he grabbed the 12 gauge,, I'm 67 now & i do the same thing nowadays
Suggestions on where to keep your gun in a RV like this. Thanks.
On your hip.
I do a lot of camping both in my father's trailer and in my self converted minivan. my dad's RV is parked seasonally at an RV park in upstate NY and my camper van is wherever I go because it's also my daily driver. one might say LOCK YOUR DOOR but you'd be surprised at how often i am in and around my van or my dad's trailer with the door unlocked or even wide open. obviously if I'm away from the campsite or going to bed the door gets locked and I always lock my van when I'm away from it in my daily activities. I've always thought that the campground in upstate NY is safe and in a good area but in theory, anyone can just walk in on foot and do what they want. I also dont stay in bad areas when I travel in my van but, anyone can still wander up to the van specifically if I'm in a rest stop or store parking lot overnight between destinations. I will definitely be more aware of my surroundings when camping. also, if you are converting a van, bus, or box truck into a camper make sure you can get to the drivers seat from the inside of the camper portion of the vehicle and concider putting any electrical, water, and sewer connections at the back of the vehicle and have some sort of breakaway so you can drive off quickly without tearing up your camper. my van has its electrical input on the side. if I drive away while still plugged in I will probably rip the connection point out of my van. if it was at the back the extension cord woukd simply be pulled out in the same way its pulled out when I unplug it.
#1 i never go anywhere ANYWHERE without a (LOADED) firearm. The minute the crackhead stuck his head in the door he would be looking down the barrel of his bad decision.
Would you have been able to respond in time, Wally? Keep in mind the importance that the Tueller Drill plays in this scenario.
@@USCCAOfficial that is where they can get to you even if you shoot, you need distance, right? something about 15 feet? or 21?
Yeah, then the crackhead calls police and the man come and takes you away.
@@Noone-rt6pw That's a possible situation, but that's why I carry insurance right next to my CCW permit.
I would always have one in the chamber ready to go!! Could of been a malfunction while trying to chamber a round.
It’s important to realize that pepper spray is not likely to end the fight. Pepper spray provides you with somewhat of an advantage in the fight. The guy with the knife is more likely to lunge than flee. After or while spraying, one should move to create distance and find a physical barrier , if possible. Grab a weapon of opportunity, like a fry pan or even a loaded purse or handbag. The fight is on.
The bad guy was wearing eye protection. The pepper spray would have had minimal if any effect. Why does the couple seem to have an aversion to keeping their weapons ON THEM. They are in a strange place camping where literally anyone could burst through a flimsy camper door. I have learned SO much from Kevin and his training videos.
Perhaps we are supposed to notice these things like the uncovered windows with all the lights on and the door being unlocked, but I noticed these things in the first video and the good guys are oblivious to it?
I am glad you learned a lot from these videos, Jason! This training was set up this way because the couple doesn't typically carry so they were run through the scenario based on their carry styles. It was decided this situation would be best run through with their firearms locked up so they would think more about what they would do in a situation like this.
We had an RV and before we left for a trip we would go over everything safety related. I did several things that would keep people outside the RV and make it very tuff for anyone to get in or see in. What I was after was gaining time to react, with that time it would be difficult to get inside and live. I kept a 16" Mossberg 590 with #4 buck and two Glock handguns in the RV plus I always carried one of the handguns. If it was me in your training video. As soon as I noticed that the attacker wasn't as aggressive or controlling as I first thought. I would have done everything could to have shot him several times. It would be his mistake to not control both people completely until he was gone. He also gave us a tip that he was high on drugs so I would shoot for the chest and face. I attended TDI in Ohio for training and completed several classes including CQPC, 1-5 handgun, tactical shotgun 1&2 and some fighting rifle courses plus I'm ex military.
No round in the chamber?
That is likely their own personal preference, Nahtay.
Mawmawve, it is her personal preference to not carry with one in the chamber. I believe that if you don't carry with one in the chamber, you do need to train that way and include that extra step so you are prepared and don't have to think about chambering a round if you are in an incident.
This is true, but the man picked up her gun without remembering she doesn't keep a round in the chamber and it could have cost them their lives if the bad guy with the knife got upset with them. The bad guy might give into the bluff seeing the gun, but the guns were in a gun safe. Sure she can do what she wants and I agree with that. Her gun, her life, but her husband picked it up and forgot. She was out in the living area with the guy with the knife. These videos are so good to see, as they evoke a lot of thought about things and the players are brave to take part in them.
You make good points, mawmawvee. I'm glad you are enjoying these videos and that they get you thinking!
UA-cam‘s algorithms are very interesting. This video showed up at the perfect timing as I am buying a camper this weekend and one of the first things I am doing is getting an alarm and a security camera or video doorbell for it as well as a quick access safe.
You guys rock. You left so much to think about which is a great thing. A very thought-provoking video to say the least. Thank you! Oh, and have that weapon on you and readily available!! That is paramount.
Thank you for tuning in!
Keep your gun on you all the time! When sleeping it must be in arms reach.
How would you have approached this situation?
great vid, glad u guys are making stuff like this.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, whollyfree! Thanks for tuning in!
I've been thinking about this before so that if we get an RV, I would conceal carry on body all day and night until bed...or even open carry, depending on where I was. At the very least, keeping my firearm on a table right beside you at night. Apparently, the camper was not locked while they were inside, so that would need to be done always, unless you are out at your campfire. (Although I hear most campgrounds are pretty safe) And keep your firearm with you outside at all times, especially at night. Also, he told them the drugs were in the safe, and the guy was immediately suspicious. He should have said his money is in the safe, but he was nervous, and I do get that. I really like that he had another gun hidden for just in case. It would be helpful if both he and the wife would carry too. And cameras for outside your camper, with a motion detector. That way, the guy is alerted to you before he comes in....if there is enough time. But seriously, locking the door is the most important. And maybe some special kind of locks so that they can't just kick it in. Also, don't leave windows opened in a way that someone could gain entry that way either. I immediately thought at first that the blinds should be closed and curtains pulled at night. That way they have no clue where you are in the camper. We have four little dogs, so I don't know if that would be a deterrent to a crook or not. But they would definitely be barking.
The dogs would certainly be a great alarm system!
And for what to do with the remains of an attacker in your RV, please refer to the Home Canning Channel...
I would advise you to not make such comments on a public page, Tark.
That's why you keep your gun on you and one in the camber bad guys aren't stopping at the door
How would you have approached this situation?
I think you should keep your weapon chambered if you don’t have a revolver and have it on your person and when you’re in your camper lock the door. As well as have cameras around to record stuff. Do not stage your weapon or weapons. And always carry a knife
Step one: lock the freaking door!!
Always create a barrier. That buys you time. Time buys you options.
UNLOCKED DOOR ?? wtf.
Otherwise,not badly played.
Pocket rocket are good to have.
Any ideas about how to apply this scenario if you are sleeping in a tent? I do carry bear spray as a self defense weapon when I go backpacking to protect myself against dangerous wildlife but would it be an effective weapon against a human being?
Yes you can. You need to have some way of keeping everyone and everything away from the tent. One simple way of doing this is with 4-6 battery operated driveway alarms set all around your area. You can buy them at Rural King for about $12.00 ea. A little camo paint and a way of placing them on a tree and it would be tuff to sneak up without setting them off. Buy a handgun.
@@BulletSpoung@ That's a great idea. Thanks man.
Were i camp their's lotsa gators,, stranger good or bad coming into my camp site day or night just might be their last mistake..
And Mr Glock sleeps under my pillow.
Also hv the little window alarms camo painted & rigged up around my site.
Love you guys at uscca I watch every video I get time for during the day haha
That is great to see you are enjoying the videos, Jason! Do you have a favorite?
The wife's pepper spray canister is woefully inadequate, only a mist that disables the user as much as the assailant. Much better is a magnum bear spray canister with a range of up to 30 feet which shoots an 8 second stream like a squirt gun and floods the assailant's face/body if aimed correctly. Main thing is it minimizes blowback into the user. Downside is they're kinda big for pocket carry, 8 inches long and weigh a pound but they make belt holsters for them.
Totally legal in all US States although use in non self defence scenarios against humans is considered criminal assault.
I am loving these proving ground vids! Lots of lessons to learn in these. Btw what is the name of that gun safe in this video and where can I buy one? I travel quite a bit and I desperately need one of those
Thank you for tuning in, Janice! Those are training pistols. You can find those via this link: nextleveltraining.com/
@@USCCAOfficial you're welcome! I loveeee these vids keep doing them please! And thanks for the link to those training pistols I am most definitely getting one of those. I need to practice dry firing when I'm not on the range
I am so glad you love these videos, Janice! That training pistol is definitely a great idea to help with dry fire drills!
Is there any specific topic you are hoping to see covered in our future Proving Ground videos?
@@USCCAOfficial there's not specific topic that I can think of at the moment, but I'm gonna try because I really love these! If one does come to mind I will surely get back to you!
We would appreciate that, Janice! Thank you! :)
Spraying pepper spray in a RV would be as bad for the defender as the attacker.
The firearm must be on your person at all times! Until you go to bed, then you keep it REAL close to you. Also, why was the door to the RV unlocked?
That is a great question, Jan.
I was thinking the same thing but usually camping your in and out until time to go to bed, also you dont really ever think theres going to be a crack head out in the wilderness alone? But who knows, this stuff does happen! Great learning experience!
Thanks Kevin it gives me experience in helping train others also! Go USCCA!
@@bwsing01 thanks Bryon! I've been in condition yellow/orange since I was a young boy (I'm now 56) due to what I've been through. Don't call me a freak, but... everywhere I go, everywhere I sleep, I prepare as if there will be a crazy maniac coming through the door. That's what I have been through, and I'm sure many others here have experienced that. Cheers and be safe sir!
You also my friend, I'm 58 and like you. Just completed my training with USCCA as a home defence instructor and doing basic firearms classes also, so this vidio I can totally refer to in my training! Keep yourself safe sir!
@@bwsing01 will do sir! You as well.
i chased down a guy who stole a phone from my store had my handgun in my left pepper spray in my dominant hand just in case he turned around he rounded the block stole these peoples bike and as he was taking off i shot the whole can at him idk if i got him i didn’t stop him and i got back blast and the people chasing after him out of the house unfortunately got it from the wind as well, i never apologized so much but they were awsome, gonna switch to gel and practice with that.
I use revolvers, no having to work the slide, possible jams. Poor gun placement on the husband’s part. Poor choice of words to mention ‘the safe’.
It was definitely an interesting place to stage that firearm, leebest1A. Do you think there is any disadvantage to carrying a revolver?
In a situation in the RV no disadvantage; not foreseeing an extended gunfight. If the bad guy stays in the vehicle then it’s close quarters and ‘easier’ to hit your target and he’s got no solid cover.
Whatz a stress vest
They should have had there weapons on there person carrying with an empty chamber is like thinking you’ll have time to put your seatbelt on before the accident
That certainly could have been helpful, Jaramie.
Firsr, we would have made sure the door was locked. Secondly, I would have been carrying my firearm. Surely they were in a campground an state where concealed carry was allowed.
Damn that pepper spray. That versus a knife? It’s not a guaranteed stopper and may make the bad guy more angry.
on body carry with one in the chamber or... why bother.
He did a hell of a lot better this time
They need to leave a round in the chamber. How often do you have Pepper spray in you hand .
My gun would have been on me as it always is.
How would you have handled the scenario, James?
Early on, he loads the pistol and then (after-thought) holsters it...by cupping his hand over the muzzle end of the holster and shoving the pistol into it. SMH Poor weapons handling. If you're still making basic handling mistakes like this, you aren't ready to learn to fight with a hand gun. And you are more likely to shoot yourself than some "bad guy." Next, you never...ever...ever let someone get between you and your off-body loaded weapon! To do that, you have to plan it out BEFORE things happen. In short, this is why we carry on body. But there were much better off body options. Finally, you send the bad guy into the bedroom if you've already lost control like this. "Our stash is under the mattress on the bed" (pointing) "Just take it! Take it!" You don't leave your wife sitting on the couch with a knife-wielding maniac while you go get a 2nd gun from a safe. When he heads for the bedroom, you grab the stashed pistol that should have been on you/next to you in the first place.
That was a better scenario but that gun had needs to be closer need that gun right there with you don't wanna have to get up do anything you want your gun right there were you get it🇺🇸
How would you have approached this scenario?
Small revolver !!!
This would amount to a felony in California.
Why is gun in a locked safe with both of the people home????????
Exactly !
Strategic services, the intent of having the firearms locked up in the safe is to mimic how the trainees are currently carrying. They mentioned they don't carry often and keep their guns locked up in the safe. That is why it was decided to run them through a scenario with their firearms locked up. To get them thinking about what could happen and how those extra seconds it takes to go get your firearm from the safe can count in an incident.
Even if they did that why in the world do people leave their door unlocked in the middle of nowhere. Their home should be locked whether you're in an urban setting or rural@@USCCAOfficial
That's a good point, Strategic Services. It is important to keep your door locked, especially when you are in an unfamiliar area! This helps deter bad guys from getting in.
I guess the lesson here is next time lock you door. It's no brainer.
Why are they wearing vests?
The last scenario should have been this short. When those people came there that were loud and that couple was uncomfortable with them as guest they needed to say we just want to be alone here could you please go we just want to be alone here could you please go the third time he should have had that pistol in his hand stepped out of the door of the camper and told those guys we just want to be alone here could you please go. In this one the suddenness of the event came because the door wasn't locked. The first secret you should have told everybody is lock the door on the travel trailer when you are in the travel trailer and when you leave the travel trailer.
This scenario is BS, because any camper would lock the camper door once they retire for the night.
No,,,, some people R trusting of their fellow humanoids 🤣
Carry my weapon on me.
What if I travel to and from Canada where handguns aren't allowed across the border?
Don't go to a place that makes you a victim.
Damn a 357 would be loud inside an rv
i used to carry a 357, first 2 rounds were snake shot
If they would just lock the door, the whole situation would’ve been avoided or they would’ve had more time. This is simple stuff.
For some strange reason regular citizens not all but some thing something strange about having a round in the chamber of a semi - auto but with Revolvers they think nothing about having all Cylinders loaded 🤔 I have even scene videos of Cops searching a vehicle and make sure they say found a gun and one is in the chamber but if a Revolver is found they say nothing about the Revolver fully loaded which is funny 😁 The semiautomatic just functions differently so far has to get the first round ready for shooting 🔫
Why would anyone put thier gun far away from them ?
Same reason old timers used to sit their shotgun by the door.
They R not thinking
That wasn't called a half loaded pistol that was called a useless pistol
that would be hairball. id have my door locked and if dude kicked in the door id know it wasnt the Jehovah Witnesses .
YES !! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES don't kick in yer door,,,, only Mormons do that... 🤪
SORRY COULDN'T RESIST
This should be a comedy. First put your gun out of reach, don’t lock your door.put a ring camera on your roof and another In a tree with a view of your campsite. Might want them to send an alert to your family member or friend. Get a small pistol or revolver you can have on your person or nearby like in the arm of the sofa you are sitting on. Have a one handed folding knife on you and get some training to-use it.
The RV owner should keep his firearm on him and in ready battle mode---a round in the chamber. The RV doors should be locked, even when it is occupied. Otherwise, he did better in this scenario than he did in the first scenario with a knife-wielding suspect.
These guys are experiencing PTSD for sure.
I probably would keep my firearm on my person
How would you have approached the scenario from start to finish?
The wife should not be armed with a striker fired pistol with an empty chamber. She clearly lacks confidence in the pistol and she has not even trained adequately with the pepper spray . She cannot deploy it with the left hand. She should sell the pistol and get a Ruger LCr or Taurus 942, in 22 mag and train until she is proficient . The husband should get one as well. They are not comfortable with handguns and when it hits the fan, the attacker is not going to hit pause and let you run to your safe. Once they were separated and the husband went the bedroom, the attacker could have grabbed the wife and put the k ice to her throat. Screwed
Could the intruder have been shot in self defense?
Possibly and likely she would have been justified if she had her firearm on her and the intruder came in further to follow her husband.
But given how this actually went I think it's better to have not fired a shot since as soon as he presented the gun the intruder fled and that's the legal end of the scenario, anything more can land you in prison.
There's also another factor that must be considered when in rv's or mobile homes and that's bullets going through walls with near zero resistance meaning it's going to have a lot of energy left as it travels outside risking lives of others you can't see.
I live in a mobile home and have shot angles mapped out in my head as shoot no shoot due to where family will be at different times. There's one neighbor that rents a camper behind me that I have to consider as well.
I had a drunk meth addict come to my home in the middle of the night, I made several bad decisions that thankfully didn't cause any harm but was a valuable lesson on what I thought I would do versus what I actually did. I've now changed how I think and act and one of the first things was if I am up no matter what my firearm is on my side.
I can't tell people keep a loaded gun, don't know why they not have gun on them? There's so much that cood have happen and going wrong
A camera in the fridge, really?
RV setup by alton brown.
And to answer the question.
I never take off my gun when traveling and even in my house = until bedtime.
But trying to draw to a threat that close would be a real danger.
LOCK THE DOOR !!!.
Even if it was the screen door only.
I couldn't' agree with you more, Scaaty Lobo! That locked door could have prevented this situation from happening.