The Messy NBA Time keeping Video
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2018
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The NBA is a league of coordination, strategy and teamwork - but when it comes down to the actual game, it's all about misdirection and trickery. especially when it comes down to the final few seconds. Every player is attempting to outsmart their opponent and make them believe their going to do one thing while doing another. In order to hit a buzzer beater or a game winner, Deception is basically the game . But THATS NOT WHAT THE REFS SHOULD DO. The referees are often criticized, but they strive for ultimate precision and supreme fairness. They want consistency in their calls, more than anything on the court. So then why, why out of all the elements in basketball, why does time get some of the most subjective treatment of all.
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The NBA Storyteller - THE END I think stop the clock when the ball is more than halfway below the rim
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Sport Science tested how long it really took to get a shot off and they got one off with just 0.22 seconds.
Ball should be through the rim not the net to be considered a field goal. The goal is the rim not the net. Same for soccer football hockey etc. the net plays no part but a visual advantage.
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When the buzzer goes off in hockey the only thing that could potentially happen is a fight after the buzzer
for real? and they let it go on?? thats amazing!
Kaleb Anderson you clearly don't watch basketball
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Funny thing about hockey is buzzer beaters almost never happen because if that puck is not past the line at the buzzer, it doesn't count.
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You clearly don't watch basketball.
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Why not just put sensors on the inside of the rims? We've got small, robust and accurate technology for that.
Nba players would hit that sensor everytime
So what?
What if the ball comes back out
then put the sensor on the bottom of the net
Carlos Andrés Prieto Forestieri players can accidentally touch the net
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This is so true! I used to work as a "time keeper" at a minor bball league... And the refs always protected me if I screw up in these situations... They would even tell me, let it run out in these exact situations... I know it's not the NBA but it wouldn't surprise me at all that this is what the time keepers are told to do... And it's fucking stupid I hated it then and i hate it now... Let me do my job and you do yours... And the worst thing is, the clock stops when the REFS blow the whistle... Even if I was right with the clock, they would readjust it to when the ref blew the whistle... DUMB DUMB DUMB
And additionally, you have one job and one job only... To stop and reset the damned clock so the chances of screwing up are much smaller... The refs have enough on their hands and there is no reason for them to influence the time. Those guys have quick fingers and a great feeling for when to play/stop the time, and there is a good chance they won't screw up. Mistakes do happen of course, your view can be blocked or something but still... That's why you have the reviews and the chance to re-adjust the time in case there is a mistake... If I'm not mistaken, there is more than 1 person taking care of the clock in the NBA and I believe all 3 refs can start/stop the clock. So this shouldn't ever happen, no way it's not intentional!!!
I used to cheat the clock about 10mins a whole gamr when I was a young teen at the local stadium so I could have free time to shoot on the court afterwards before the next game started lol
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Well, now we know you won't be starting another channel....The NHL Storyteller.
Hang on man, I think you're missing something. You keep on mentioning
a. The timing device shall be stopped whenever the official's whistle sounds.
However, you keep on ignoring b, which directly deals with this issue. 1) Says the clock will stop during the last minute of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd period after a successful field goal. 2) Says it will stop during the last 2 minutes of the 4th after a successful field goal.
a. is pretty irrelevant to this discussion. The rest of the video, about consistency of stopping and starting the clock at the correct time, is still valid. Although I think you need to take into account reaction time of the timekeepers, which is generally between .2 and .3 seconds.
Yeah, part a of the rule isn't the ONLY way the clock gets stopped. It's just one of the many ways in which the timer gets stopped. No clue how this wasn't obvious to the video creator, but I stopped watching the video and came to check the comments to see if I was taking crazy pills.
The time difference between game clock and tv is called latency. The game time is stored at the terminal of the scoreboard. The TV feed will run a cable out to a broadcast truck. The time is the difference in it travelling from the clock to the truck and then to computer to process that information. Just like a keyboard typing and it dislplaying on a computer, there is always latency.
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You clearly don't watch basketball.
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I've noticed this happening repeatedly over the years but never thought much about it. Great video as always.
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In the Australian football league we have kicks after the final siren which still count. Meaning a player can go for goal for the win after the game has 'finished'
You clearly don't watch basketball.
Timothy Blue what makes you think that?
Timothy Blue probably been watching the NBA before you
James Price You clearly didn’t watch the last 30 seconds of this video
Number 10 okay yea I just noticed that
Tbh . This is the most thought out shit I've seen on sports in a very long time . Thank you
I’ve been thinking about this for YEARS! Great video.
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You clearly don't watch basketball.
This was always in the back of my head! I’m glad someone made a video on it
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Solid video dude you put a lot of work into this.
When dealing with this topic, I actually expected that Game 6 would be addressed in the final series of the 1996 1997 season, where the clock shows 0.6. Seconds were left and the Utah Jazz actually had the ball, but the game was over because the crowd had already stormed the field.
Yeah, but ot was 4 point differential so it wouldn't make amy difference.
Simple rule change. In the last second, after a made shot, the clock does not stop. Easy, awesome rule.
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I've watched four decades of basketball and enjoyed hundreds of buzzer beater games and never gave any of this a lot of thought. Fifteen minutes into your video and I'm calling for the head of David Stern.
These videos are incredible.
NFL has plays like this, they're called Hail Mary's with 2 seconds on the clock
Wow I never thought about the last micro seconds of a game like that before. Great video
I have always been intrigued with the synchronisation between the tv clock and the actual clock. And also with the response of the time operator when to start and stop the time.
glad to see you made it here
This rule will only be clearly defined if serious games are affected and a lot of the teams make an uproar about it. But, I doubt it, they have a one and done rule to fix to allow straight out of high school, something I'd like to see your take on but I have feeling you're in favour of it changing to allow the straight out of high school again.
That was a long ass video but it was a good one man! Keep up the good work fam always enjoy the videos
myknifedidthat Lol!
I've always thought about this, sometimes it doesnt even have to do with the official but the timekeeper is just really bad and doesn't notice
I understand your point and i agree but its really negligible over the course of a game.... We have the tech now to implement a basketball going through the rim stopping the clock or a football being able to signal breaking of a goal line, it apparently is not what most viewers want i guess? They like the drama, I myself prefer the game... Hell tennis has implemented eagle eye for years and there still is some speculation and drama, i say all sports need to adjust to take most judgement calls out of the games, it better defines winners from losers in my opinion
This is really it right here... Does it even matter AND do we actually like having human error/influence as a variable... I think any added drama is a plus - but deep down i just want someone to admit it i guess
Shit man if adding drama is what people want round any 0.x clocks up to 1.0 and have a goddamn penalty shootout of fast full court 3s.
I'm jesting but I'd watch the shit out of that.
What's the name of the jazz tune at the end?
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And this doesn't even touch on the at least equally problematic issue of the clock _starting_ at the wrong time.
The only thing I can think of is there is a delay between when the timer starts and when the ball touches the player's hand so they think the delay between the clock stopping and the ball going through the net makes up for it. Idk, I'm just hypothesizing, this discrepancy has bothered me for a while, too.
I know about hockey, there is a horn at the end of the period, but if the clock says 0:00 and the puck isn't over the line yet, then it doesn't matter when it was released, so it isn't the same. Still exciting when a goal is scored with less than a second left, though.
Yeah this is actually a good one. Never thought about it.
Amazing video
That outro music was actually sick, and I usually hate shit like that.
Yo are you going to do a story about why no jimmer
The biggest problem with the clock is it most of the time won’t start until a second or two after they have possession of the ball
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Great video
Had to subscribe after you said “who knows about hockey” lmfao
Sysko Sanera 😂 hockey’s timing is so confusing when it comes to whether or not it has crossed the line or not
Hockey makes it SEEM like it's more precise, cause they can do replay to see if the puck made it across. But was the clock started exactly to the tenth second when the last face off was dropped? No way to tell.
Conner Julien Vlogs What do you mean? If the puck completely crosses the goal line before time expires, then it's a goal. If not, then it's not a goal. What exactly is confusing about that?
I think I have to watch the Fillipine Basketball league or something, because this man is just exposing the NBA for just disrespecting the game of basketball.
With the old clock, there were no "extra tenths" when the clock hit :00. The clock only hit the next second after the full second was passed. It's not like a truncated version of the current clock where the tenth is hidden. With a half second left, the clock will still have read 0:01.
Sensor in the middle of the ball, sensor in the rim, if it passes through the rim, the clock stops?
So trying to get a way to get the clock to end at the right time, my first hypothesis was detectors in the rim sort of like how Mark Cuban has the Dallas rims mic'd up, however then I remembered that one shot that when all the way in then back out, so can't do that. Then my next hypothesis was something at the bottom of the net, however then teams can't do that cutting the net down thing, also if it effects the swish sound everyone would hate it, as well I'm no tech expert so I don't know if a weightless small wireless sensor is made consistent enough without mistake, but that's probably the best solution, a sensor at the bottom of the net.
The clock should stop when the ball comes in contact with the floor, either own it's own or with a player coming in contact with it with their foot/feet in contact with the floor. That has the ring of an official sport rule to me.
Very well made
Or when ten seconds elapse after a made basket in the third quarter while they retrieve the ball from the stands or wherever
AFL has after the siren goals which are just as exciting
there should be a sensor in the rim to detect if the ball passed totally or not. it should be totally automatic.
How about this issue? In most arenas the game clock is nine-tenths of a second too long. Watch at the one-minute mark, when the clock transitions to include tenths of a second. Usually, it takes a full second for the clock to go from 1 minute to 59.9 seconds.
It should be considered a field goal when the ball fully clears the rim, not the net, which is an imperfect, inconsistent visual signal. It'd also be more exact to count frames on an attempt with less than 0.3 seconds left, because you could tip/redirect the ball in a very short time, but that would completely kill the moment by taking too long.
is there no rule that says to stop the clock when ball goes through the net or the rim or is it just based on a refs whistle
you clearly dont watch basketball
THATS exactly the problem!!! that little language there doesn't exist - so strange!
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Is that a Rhodes in the background?
Why not just an electric sensor below the rim, when a ball triggers it the clock auto-stops?
JIST imagine back in the day when they used a stopwatch. and then remember that BEFORE THAT they once paid someone to stand on the sidelines counting out loud every second of the countdown...
Is that a Fender Rhodes in the background?
u the best. Much much much much much much respect
In hockey when the buzzer goes off, the game ends but a lot of fighting and shit happens
Unless it goes to a shootout.
Fantastic content man
thank you sir
Why did I not get notified of this
I’ve always thought this. And it bugs me so much. And it’s not just NBA ball, thought they are the main culprit and do it a ton more, the NCAA is guilty of it too. All you have to do is watch march madness and you’ll see numerous inconsistencies with the clock there.
15k views 15k subs that means everyones been waiting for this one
Excellent video man
You clearly don't watch basketball.
I believe the discrepancy between the TV time and arena time is due to the delay that comes from broadcasting everything to your TV.
For "remains in" to be written into the rulebook for a shot going into the net for a made shot, there had to have been atleast one instance of a ball somehow getting stuck in a hoop. How? Did it get stuck in the netting? Did it get punctured by the rim and stuck like a hook?
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In Modern NBA broadcasts, the clock you see on television, even the ones you see in arena on the new scoreboards, are delayed. I don't know why, the ONLY official clocks are the ones above the backboards. Same way with shot clocks now. TV should go back to camera on the clock, it was more accurate, somehow.
I don't know about all that... but i see that Fender Rhodes my dude. 👌
You can do a documentary on anything
OH MY GOSH THE SUSPENSE IS UNREAL
Another cracking Vid 😀 Fisher 0.4 bullshit still shits me
Coach nick (from bballbreakdown) should ask ronnie nun(An old nba referee) about this
13:25 very valid points being made
I was disappointed you didn't address the issue of starting the clock too late for the buzzer beater. The team could have say 0.3 seconds left and shoot a shot that takes 0.7 seconds because the guy who starts the timer can't possibly start the time the instant he touches the ball. This might be a slight exaggeration but they get very particular about whether he released it before 0:00 but not particular about whether the clock was actually started the instant he touches it.
Great video but should be half length with same amount of info and examples
The Charlotte Hornets time keeper is the NBA finals keeper. The NBA has a rule that both teams that makes the finals can’t have their time keeper work those games. He been working the finals for the last 5 years.
I think the problem is is that it’s a human doing it live vs you getting to stop it at the exact moment it goes through net.
I think it's .1-.2 for a dunk or tip and no less than .4 to get a full "shot" off
Yo what's the outro music