Nissan frontier Belt squeal
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Nissan frontier Belt squeal . This 2003 Nissan Frontier has a belt that squeals when first started . It looked as if someone had put new fan belts on the nissan frontier not long ago. I checked for bad idler pulleys and misalignment of pulleys . One of the new belts seemed a little loose , so i tried to tighten it up some . I noticed the belt tensioner pulley was adjusted all the way as tight as it would go. So i thought wrong belt . I looked the part number on the belt up and it was for a nissan frontier . I saw the length of the belt that was supposed to fit and every other parts store listed a half inch shorter belt for the nissan frontier . So the belt that was on it was listed wrong and was to long . the new belt fixed the squeal.
My AC belt was squeaking on my 2003 Frontier Crewcab XE. I had new belts and harmonic balancer installed in December 2023, by February 2024 I was getting intermittant squeaks. When it started getting warm in April, it would happen whenever I turned on the AC, and it cooling would go on and off. I took to Nissan on April 21, 2024 and they supposedly tightened, but continued to get squeaks within days. Finally, on June 14, 2024 I found this video and went under to check the idler pully for the compressor. I could literally turn the adjusting screw by hand it was so loose. Thanks Nissan. I used a 14mm to loosen the idler pully, then a 12mm to turn the adjuster screw to tighten the belt. No more squeaks and cool air constantly. I really appreciate this video for helping me locate the correct belt/pulley and how to adjust the tension. Thanks!
Glad you got it sorted out and thanks for stopping in .
Replaced my belt this evening with the one you used in the video. So far so good for me. It has been driving me nuts for years to the point I was embarrassed to start my truck in public parking lots. I'm sure the neighbors hated it too.
Anyways I appreciated your video. You definitely saved me the time and money of getting a professional to look at it.
i have same type truck and same problem too especially when it's hot.
finally a 2.4L video, thanks for the submission
The video quality is so much better than most auto videos I have watched. Thanks for the great info and lesson.
Thank you
Thank you for this video! I appreciate you taking the time to make it and clarify the belt length at 35.5". Having the same issue with our Frontier. It will be fixed now thanks to you.
I hope you get it sorted out , and thanks for watching
I have a 2003 Frontier XE 2.4L. My belts, no matter which brand I tried, would make noise. I finally ordered the OEM's from Nissan, and the problem went away. Nissan told me it is not only the length, but, the width of the belts. Nissan told me that the American versions, such as Dayco, are just a bit wider, and it causes the belt not to track on the pulleys. I did not believe it, but, put the OEM belts on, and have not had any problems since.
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Bradley Evans Gates works.. you have to buy the next size down for the ac.. and take the pully apart to get it on..
you'll have no idea how valuable this video was for me.
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GREAT JOB ON THIS VIDEO! Your narrative was spot on and we thank you!
Thank you!! that was a very informative video and well worth watching. It is people like you that make life easier for the rest of us, keep up the good work.
Mine (2000 Frontier) had the very same problem and your excellent video work gotter done for me. Took me a minute to figure out that the belts will slip around the fan blades for final removal (duuuhhh...ha ha). Thanks soooo much!
Glad it helped
Thank you for your video... It helped my son and I discover the squeal. We changed the belts on our 2003 frontier. Squeal gone. Appreciate your info. Three cheers.
Glad it helped
Nice video. I changed all three belts. The main reason I was watching the video is that I put my Power steering pulley bracket on the outside. Thanks for showing a great angle and image of it... Just as I suspected it goes on the inside. I could ese it very clearly in your video....great job
Glad it helped
What are the belts name?
I would of never guessed that. Great work Terry.
Thanks
Great bit of investigative work. Checking things out and good diagnosis always better then throwing parts at it!
Very keen eye Terry to pick up that there was no adjustment left. Great detective work on getting it all figured out.
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Bought truck second hand had the same Napa belt and same problem for two years . Replaced with OEM Nissan belt , problem solved . Thanks for the video !
Thank for sharing . Glad you got it sorted out.
I had the same problem with the "right belt was the wrong belt" on my 2000 3.3L Pathfinder Alternator belt. The issue wasn't the length, but the style of the belt side that wrapped around the pulleys. Instead of continuous Longitudinal design that matches the pulley grooves, Auto Zone's had a Horizontal across design. No amount of tightening would stop the "Squeal". Both types of belts are recommended at this store. Be sure to ask for the matching longitudinal groove type for your Nissan's Engines. Good video here: that takes hours of frustrating failure out of the picture. Pass it forward.
Thanks for commenting and the kind words
I've been chasing this problem myself, 2002 Nissan Frontier XE 2.4. Finally asked a mechanic and he told me the same exact thing yesterday. I have the belt on he showed listed as well, but its just too long. went to buy a shorter belt today
I have a 2000 Frontier and ran into the same issue. The shop only stocked Napa parts so they couldn’t get it to stop squealing. Thank you for the help 🙏🏻
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Thank you for posting great content. The Napa belt caused the alternator tension bolt to be at max adjustment. I put a 10 dollar autozone belt in and its now sitting at half adjustment (like the video). I have cranked it up twice a day for the past week with no noises or issues. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was able to tighten my alternator belt with the same small clearance at the end of that jack screw. It took less than two full turns of the screw, I estimate, to get to a decent tension.
I forgot to add, that having to remove the lower splash guard to adjust the inner belt, was a bummer, but it was a lot easier than attempting to adjust it from the top.
Bob
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my splash guard fell off. lol
FYI the middle belt, the alternator has a long 6-7" bolt with a keeper on one end (versus a nut) and NEED to loosen that long bolt which the alternator pivots on or you'll strip the threads on the adjuster and/or bend the bolt. The other 2 belts use an adjuster that moves independently from the accessory that it drives ie: Power Steering and A/C Compressor. This is ALWAYS overlooked in these videos!
If you look closely at the adjuster bolt for the alternator you see the threads are SHINY and almost stripped out. That's b/c he didn't loosen that long 6-8" alternator bolt first.
Guys, he did say to loosen the long bolt on the bottom of the alternator in the video before tryna loosen the tension bolt..
Thank you , I was pretty sure i did
I think i did say it in video
Nice fix. You are quite the automotive detective.
Thank you
I had a 2002. One and only brand new vehicle I have owned. Belts got a chirp before it was a year old and 12,000. Any time it was humid or it rained. Was surprised it still had this old set up. Hearing this thing rattle like hell with only 108K I'm glad I didn't keep that truck
That new one would think they could of used a serpentine belt
HAHA love the battery post. Long time since I seen a v belt.
It was pretty new to have v belts one would think
Good show👍 went down and got that shorter belt on there and tenchener has more room too tenchen 👍 thanks again 👍
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I have a 97 pickup that defied all the fixes I read on the web. Changed the belt to a Gates, then to an OEM, checked & lubed the tensioner, put belt grip on, used soap, still squealed like a pig .... until I discovered a loose lower alternator bolt. The nut got lost when changing the alt, and the bolt started to work out about an inch. Dealer wanted $13.50 for a nut. Hardware store didn't carry a 9mm nut in any form, Autozone had the bolt but no nut. 12 acre wrecking yard had 2 Nissan PUs only one had the right nut. $1.50 for the nut AND the bolt. Plus 2 bux to get in and 90 min looking. Damn cars, trucks, dealers! NO NOISE SINCE!!
Glad you got it sorted out
Good video. I am an experienced mechanic, but the Nissan is new to me and didn't know where the adjusters were located. After finding the adjusters, the rest was a breeze. It looks like all new belts were installed, and were not properly adjusted.
Bob
it was to the end of adjustment with the first new belt . but the second new belt , even tho same part number was shorter and had adjustment left
Time to re-wright NAPA'S belt application book.
Good catch Terry, well done!
Thanks
Great diagnosis and repair!
Thank you
Things are not always as they appear. Good investigative work.
Thank you
For alternator belt use DAYCO 15360-11A0915. The 15355 is too small. Do Not use Gates 7355, you will have belt squeel. I fully understand this problem. I have two 97 Nissan pickups.
Good catch... lots of adjustment left now. :)
Not to bad a job after i figured it out . thanks for stopping by
On my 4th Nissan Frontier A/C belt. Squeaks during the Summer heat when you need the A/C most. Those A/C belts stretches over time even even the ones from the dealer and no amount of adjustment could do since it reached the limit. All it needed is have a little shorter belt but no idea what to buy. BTW, originals on the other two belts.
Any parts store should be able to get a one size smaller than stock belt for you . If need a bit smaller
Who would have thought that was the issue? Nice detective work.
I was confused after i figured out it was even the right part number
Great video! I have a 2001 frontier, dealing with the same problem. This will help a lot.
Hope it helps and thanks for stopping by
Great video! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Great repair :-D, belts and a really bad battery clamp, it would have failed.
I like your method of belt adjustment, makes so much sense, ive never thought about it, i must be stupid or something lol.
Your clamp replacement looks spot on, people dont realise how much power goes through that bit of bent tin when starting, any resistance at high current robbs the starter of power.
Perhaps the pulleys have slight wear and the original alternator belt too, it all adds up, that new belt looks like a much better fit on an old vehicle :-).
I am supersized it was starting so well with the battery terminal like that . Mine would of just went click and done
Tech Tip! Use a tool that slips over your pointer finger! It's called a "Cricket" and it measures the exact amount of tension on the belt in both foot pounds (Ft LBS) or the Metric equivalent! Do the job RIGHT! Never GUESS at the tension unless you want to destroy bearing in the pulleys!
I agree but most at home will not have a belt tensioner gauge or get one , But now that you brought it up , That would make a good video ,
Had this same problem. Dealership put on Napa belts. Unfortunately I broke the belt adjuster by overtightening before I found this video. Changing that was not very fun.
Auto repair shop broke mine after I got tired of trying to figure it myself. However the mechanic did tell me what the poster is saying, I had a gates belt, right part number, just too big.
Much appreciated!!
Glad I found this video, and good detective work. I have the same model & year and I've got really bad belt squeal and what I think may be the smell of burning belts coming out of the engine compartment, so I likely need to replace all the belts (they all feel pretty dried out). Just to be clear, for replacing only the belts, can I get away without removing the fan or any radiator hoses? I have limited free time for this job and I just want to get it done as quickly as possible.
Is it just a matter of getting that air duct out of the way, loosening the tensioners, and remove and replace?
Thanks!
I have this exact same problem, thanks this video was very helpful !
Glad it helped
mine does the same thing thank you .
I found my squeal to be the fan clutch on my 1997 Nissan Pickup. I went through weeks of searching the cause of the squeal. I had the typical squeal when I started up the engine.
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I don't think many people would have caught that NAPA is thinking a longer belt than other stores.
That same belt was squeaking for a customer of mine. A belt deflection tool would have told me I was too tight by the time I got rid of the squeak.
Just guessing. Way back in High School I knew how much belt deflection there was supposed to be by the book, but real world usually seems to need to be tighter. Maybe that book was from before so many accessories for serpentine belts, but you'd think this Nissan with so many belts shouldn't need to be so tight.
The book answer, or my interpretation of it, seems to have been wrong.
Sometimes one has to tighten belts excessively , and nothing turns hard , it may be the belt or wear on the pulleys .
wtbm123 You're right. I had forgotten. I did want to replace one of the pulleys but I got out voted.
I have 1998 and 2004 Frontiers with this engine; here's what I use, and two are smaller size belts than the parts computers list: Alternator/water pump Nissan 02117-90513 Gates/CarQuest 7350 (fits better than the larger 7355) 9.5mm x 920mm
Power steering Nissan 02117-25023 Gates/CarQuest 9490 9495 Goodyear Gatorback 17494 12.5/13mm x 1260mm
AC Nissan 02117-92523 Gates/CarQuest 9360 (fits better than the larger 9365) 12.5/13mm x 935mm Bando 4360 Do NOT use cheap/generic belts either !!!
Thanks for sharing . It can be helpful to many in the future
my 1998 Nissan Frontier a belt been squealing ,I going to check it out..
Hey Terri, As usual, a good fix!!! Was that a gear head wrench U were using???? I bought a set when working on my Kia, best investment one can make when working in small spaces!!!
yea a reversible angled gear wrench , love them . you will break them if you start double wrenching on them , but i love them for most things
Thanks!!! have had the same since belts were replaced several years ago. My 98 has 53K mi. :)
@@trafficandcats replaced all three and the a/c idler pulley, that got it! Adjusted to
1/4-1/2 in. of deflection.
Thanks Boss !
Just what I needed.
My AC is broken and I don't care.
Always wondered if its ok to run with out AC belt.
-- 6.19.24
-- North Central Florida
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nice work Terry
Thanks Tom
thanks i have that exact truck same color same rims and engine size my paint peeled just as yours
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That very first belt you show in the beginning , what it is called ? I need to buy a replacement and don’t know the name of what belt it is
So, do I understand correctly:
Did you change the belt to a slightly shorter one in order to get it tighter? And then that fixed the squealing? Also, at the beginning of the video, the bottom pulley had some side to side free-play when you pushed it back and forth- made a clicking noise. Is this ok, or does that need replacing if it clicks side to side?
Side to side movement , can be a little , but even the one in the video would not of been bad idea to change . I still used the right part number for the belt but different brand . The different brand was the length that the manufacture called for , where the first belt , that brand was a longer belt but correct part number . .
Which pulley is which. I assume the one lowest under the AC compressor (driver side) is the idler tension pulley for AC. The one up above which is also an idler tension pulley would be for the power steering I assume. Which is which? I need to replace both of them they squeal on startup. As soon as I spray WD 40 down into them near there bearings they are silent. I don’t need the one over on the left hand passenger side closer above the alternator mounted to a metal bracket that one’s fine. Any help appreciated. The names and part numbers to the two I need.
With out seeing it it is hard for me to say . If the belt goes over the ac and a tensioner puley then it would be tenshioner pulley for ac . . Maybe take a picture to a parts store or take vehicle there , show them wich one and sure they can find a part number . Sorry i was not more help , but i see a lot of cars and do not remember them all off the top of my head
@wtbm123 Well theirs. 3 total. One over towards the passenger side above the alternator, that one is fine and two on the driver side one above the main belt rides on I’m guessing is the drive belt tensioner pulley and the only other one is directly down below lower than the a/c compressor, but close to it and I believe tension for it. The one over by the passanger side must be the power steering tensioner. So theirs 3 that all have that bolt you can tighten to get rid of slack. Power steering tensioner pulley, drive tensioner pulley and ac/tensioner pulley. Any other ones are just called idlers cuz you can’t set tension. Anyway I tighten all 3 a bit it still made noise. Than I sprayed wd40 behind the two on the driver side behind them into where the bearings are. It completely shut up and isn’t making a peep. So those bearings in those pulleys must be on there way out. I ordered all 3 belts and one of the two tensioner pulleys. I guess I’ll know for sure which one I still need once the first one arrives. It would be nice if Nissan had provided a belt diagram with the pulleys except with arrows to each of the 3 tensioners with their name. Would have made life a lot easier. Because you go in rock auto they all look similar, same thing with a lot of the other sites too. The one down below is closest to the ac compressor and is the lowest pulley on the truck, that one has to be ac tensioner. But the drive and power steering tensioner can confuse you. My guess the power steering one is the one all the way on the left passenger side (standing in front of truck facing front of engine) but not positive. The other two are on the driver side one up high one way down below.
nice video i think in need help with the correct part numbers of the 3 belts
If I'm going to take belts off and reuse 'em I hang them on the mirror just as they came off..Just my habit I recon..Job done good stuff.
Some say it matters not , but i also like putting them back going the same way they were
Good work man , thumbs up !
Thanks
Ok, I checked out the video prior to doing a belt replacement for one fan/alternator belt that had broken on 2001 Frontier XE. Here were my findings:
1)A Gates 7355 belt from O'Reillys will fit, but is nearing the end of the adjustment on the large side. I'll be picking up a spare as this truck apparently has a history of eating belts. The spare will be 1/2" shorter. I did go to the local dealer, but they were out of stock on the updated version of the 11720-7B400 part.
2) The only tools needed were 10,12,14 sockets, a 3" extension will make life a little easier, but is un-needed. So, if you're 200 miles away from home/tools and need to BUY some to do the job, you DO NOT need to buy the combo wrench set. Save yourself some $$$
3) This is a 10 minute job. Literally less time to do than to watch the video. It was nice to see just how simple the job was, and the tool-list, prior to ordering tools, purchasing belt.
I'll update this comment if the squeal returns
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Cool beanz..nice repair
Thank you
@wtbm123 Good job! Clearly explained and well filmed --- thanks for posting!
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@@wtbm123 Where did you end up getting the correct belt from? Thanks!
Thanks for the video ! Worked for me
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I have same type truck and my belt has been squealing for years. i buy new belts it stops but when weather changes it squeals. I wonder if i have wrong belt? I bough truck used with 70k miles on it. the truck has about 158k miles on it now i put 1.25 set of tires two batteries an ac hose a thermostat a cruise control because it didn't have one and new belts. I just drove truck from near nashville tn to tunica MS to El Paso TX. I make trip every year. I wish I had his camper shell.. These trucks seem to run for ever.
will give it a shot. thanks brother
Thanks for watching and commenting , hope all goes well for you
OMG. I've had this problem on my frontier for 7 years. I've replaced pulley, belts, and tensioners. I could never figure out why they are still loose after the tensioners are fully extended. This just saved me from selling off the truck in frustration.
Thanks for the video
Do you have a video on changing the power steering hoses???????????
That's my next project. I'm hearing some noise on the drivers side suspension.
Any videos on the 1999 Frontier will be greatly appreciated
Sorry i do not
so alt belt is 35.5, what are the lengths on the other 2 belts ?
Great video bud. I have a 98 and I put a dayco belt on and I'm holding it in my hands now cause it broke going up the road after I installed it a hour ago. I did loosen up the tension @ the alternator a great amount like you did but it still felt a lil tight, not bad tight but more than normal I'd say. The #:s on it are 19025176&19025177... Advanced auto said it was the OEM replacement #but I think a 1/2" Longer belt would do better. So as you were saying the belt that was right number but wrong belt could possibly be the belt I'd need. I don't see any difference in your engine layout vs. mine but our body's are different and instrument cluster too. I'm wondering if I gotta cross over year and that's why I need the odd belt like the one you have?..I'll letcha know what I find out if you want.. Awesome informative video bud! It helped me out tremendously,thanks.👊🙏😉
Thank you for commenting , And Yes Please let us know how it turns out , It may help another in the future .
do you now where is the transmission dipstick for this frontier with this type of engine?
I am not sure . It has been a while , i do not remember what transmission this persons truck had .
Great fix !
Thanks
Thanks nice tutorial
Ya. They have it listed wrong I had the sam problem
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like the dog nice job sir
very helpful thank you
Thanks for watching and commenting
nice fix
Thanks
Hi Terry I have 2002 Nissan frontier 4 cylinder the alternator belt keeps wearing out real quit in just a few miles. I can tell it's out of line but I can't see how to align it. Don't see an adjustment anywhere to do so. I've searched the web and can't find anything can you help. If so it would sure be appreciated.
hi, I have a friends nissan with the same alternator belt noise, alternator gets hot, belt starts to slip and burns off, 4th new belt on now, new alt, was fine for 3 miles then same thing, did Terry ever answer you? now I know why the other 2 mechanics will not work on it.
No he hasn't but if I find out anything I'll let you know. If you do please let me know. Thanks
If out of line , then something is loose , like the brackets holding it to engine . make sure all bearings in alternator and idler pulleys are good , not wore out . . If all is bolted up tight and nothing has play , then something must be hard to turn . I would prob loosen all belts and check for anything loose or bad like a bearing . with belt tension on , it is sometimes hard to tell if anything is loose . Hard to say with out seeing , but unless belt alignment is way off , it is usually something not turning freely .
The squeal will return... the problem is the width. Use OEM belts only- I chased this problem on a 2002 for several months. Good Luck.
This one did not squeal any more after the new right size belt .
I paid 40 more for the one at the dealer and the problem still there
I find out the only belts that work good are the originals from the nissan from the dealership., the ones from the autoparts stores are a little bit off on the measure some times you tighten all the way and still the belts are still loose
Dealer parts are usually the best firmament . But harder to get if dealer is not close . But do need to watch aftermarket stuff as it is not always the same as original
@@wtbm123 i replace all on mi nissan and i still heard the squeal, went to dealership and they tell me yeah the ones from other autoparts are i little bit off on measurements since i put those i never have that problem downside of buying from dealer are more expensive
@@jcalzada74 A little more expensive , but usually only need to buy it once . I think in the video , i thought a 1/2 inch difference in some of the belt sizes you get . and not enough adjustment for that .
Hi. Where you buy the Dayco belt?
i think either autozone or advance auto .
@@wtbm123 what is the part number for the correct sized belt and what Brand?
How to put a 2008 nissan frontier belt on?
Not sure what a 2008 uses
Been a while since I seen anything with v belts or more than one belt.
yea usually think old car when one says V Belt
So where did you get this belt
i think autozone if i remember right
So no timing, all serpentine belt s?
no timing . only on the timing belt on engine , no timing on the accessory belts
Do you ever use "belt dressing"?
not really
Belt dressing doesn't work with this issue. It's definetly a part number issue. I say this because I used can's of this stuff trying to fix my 2002. The squeel does seem to come back after drastic temperature changes, as in fine in the winter, squeel in the summer
Take it easy on it.
Dont destro yourself
2.4 is actually a pretty damn large 4 cylinder but I digress...
Yes , Thanks for stopping by and commenting
2.4 large is good, I had a 2.0 on another truck. It was so under power. In fact it needed a running start at the bottom bottom the hill and even then all other cars zoomed past by up the freeway.
Yea great thanks!
Thanks
forgot to say thanks.
Put on all the clapns
Take the timing off
cool...........tony
Thanks Tony , hope all is going well
Machistpwr
You should be a machinist
Put new pipes iit
Why tf cant yall just get STRAIGHT to the point....
Thanks for watching anyhow
squeaks and chirps are annoying.
Unless one has a very powerful radio , lol
Ozzstar i have almost bkown up a few engines. Just because.. i feel that agrovation...
Flush the steering fir1
I wood fck up that radiator
Ooojuzt the howeshoess