Eric Valentine on Keeping Trade Secrets for Queens of the Stone Age
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2021
- From 'Having a GAS with...Eric Valentine.'
FULL EPISODE: • Having a GAS with...Er...
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Eric Valentine has a great UA-cam channel called 'MAKING RECORDS with ERIC VALENTINE', which is a fantastic resource where he shares his knowledge and expertise in extraordinary depth.
However, his breakdown of 'No One Knows' was pulled from the channel at the request of Josh Homme. Here, Eric explains why.
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MAKING RECORDS with ERIC VALENTINE - / @mrwev
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the lost art of keeping a secret
I've read a ton on Jimmy Page interviews in the 90s and he was happy to explain a bunch of recording "secrets" from Led Zeppelin albums
which is why he's the goat
Josh be like.....Whatever you dooooOoOooOo.....don't tell anyone!
such a respectful, honest and nuanced answer
I don’t keep secrets in Art or cooking…creativity is infinite…plug in💯🙏🏾😁
I love Josh and queens he is a very inspiring dude and quite the character. However if you sit In front of native instruments guitar rig in your DAW of choice for long enough and blend amps you can nail his tone (or anyone else’s for that matter) It’s not your gear it’s your ear as the saying goes, there is no secret there is only sweat
Eric Valentine in front of a decent hd camera.
Interviewer using cctv camera from convenient store.
We've replaced it since then!
I think the interviewer is just grainy in real life.
It was a hangover
It's gonna take a (Peavey) Decade before we find out his secrets
honestly i've seen the episode and in terms of production / engineering / recording i don't know what the 'secret' is, i think (as always) the "secret" (more so a personal approach crafted after years of attempts that is unique to that person and that person only) lies more in songwriting / composition - i understand it a little bit, mystique is a powerful thing as an artist, something i can attest to first hand however i never learned how something was done and was less in awe, if anything it made me even more invested and i really think that is an equally important thing -- there's a number of producers and engineers i can think of that over the years i have looked up to and read as deep as i could into their process, the mystique was very important in some of them but equally if not more was the bit of technical information they gave, in doing so they shaped how i thought about music and how i approached the worlds of production and engineering as a whole, in short they shaped a generation - what's more important?
The secret to Josh's music is he has a great voice and is very good at throwing it around, and also has amazing musicians and cool equipment to work with. Not sure why he won't share production or engineering techniques or the equipment he uses, nobody is going to sound like him and his band. Kind of petty, when he isnt even the one that came up with some of these production and engineering things.
Some people just don’t like talking about what they do. 🤷♂️
@@theecharmingbilly Josh doesn't like his producers/ engineers talking about what they do for Josh. That's something differn't. Kind of a poser mystique move. Let the engineers speak
Well said
I can see both sides. Eric contributed to the album, even though it wasn't his songs or his vision.. But he still contributed to the sound. And I can see Josh's side. Josh has always preferred to work with his own people and Eric was forced on him. And Eric (22 years later) is now in a place where he wants to chat about his past work (and to clear the air) and Josh isnt. Does it matter how you or I feel? Not really, its between them.
Still, after seeing the video, it just sounds like great performances played by solid musicians, and mic'ed up with good equipment. I think the album would still be killer on rented backline gear if you have the same personnel and recording techniques. I think everyone wants to find a smoking gun or rare piece of gear (good luck affording a peavy decade anymore).. but it always comes down to the players. Josh (and crew) are just that good .
I remember reading an interview with Josh, and he said that he doesn't really want to share his secrets, just because he doesn't want to take away the joy of finding your own sound and style. He says that it took him quite a long time to achieve this, and that it was quite a rewarding experience. He also shared a few "tricks" he used recording TCV's album
Why is the interviewer recording on a potato ?
How did they get that sound?
No one knows.
Psst...someone has reuploaded the episode to UA-cam!
It’s actually the only thing that Josh does that makes me believe he’s a cold calculating business man and isn’t a cool and carefree badass.
Any true artist without a trust fund is a part-time hobbyist if he/ she doesn't take some mind to business. Doesn't make one a sellout to make sn honest buck either.
@@dennishickey7194 Josh is not a sellout. This is the only thing he does that makes me believe he is a cold calculating businessman and not a cool carefree badass. Please don’t add your thoughts to mine.
@@scottallen9556 There's nothing carefree about making millions in the music industry and doing endless gigs. Josh is a work a holic, its mind boggling how much pressure and effort goes into making a really good album and touring with band, holding it all together for decades. He's a shark ...
@@barneyrubble8255 it’s as if you didn’t read or understand my comment at all?🤦
@@scottallen9556 You just learning that nobody really understands each other and communication is a one way street? Better late than never
Anyone know where i can find the No One knows break down? Anyone?
Legend says some people shared it on Reddit, but I have no idea if it's still there. Give it a try.
@@antonionevone7320 Yeah I found it
Didn´t know Hugh Grant was such a badass producer
There is some great wisdom in this; The first rule of magic is containment. Don't give away your power. We share too much.
Josh shares enough to inspire others to take the basics and make their mistakes become their style,and that really is enough for me,and Eric shares enough to take that style that evolved and prepare to put it to print efficiently without wasting costly studio time when the clock is running! I APPRECIATE you both for that!
Robert Johnson turned his back on audiences at points in his performance.Some say to "corner load" for a particular sound. Some say to hide his techniques from being cribbed. Louie Armstrong draped s handkerchief over his hand to hide his fingering from copycats, not to have it handy.
When you sweat out something new why let others cheapen it to their profit? I've seen the innovator accused of being the thief when the more famous rip-off artist gets it to the mass market first. How galling has that gotta be?
.....and so it goes... "One man reaps what another man sows."
Yeah but something about sharing is caring or share is fair. 🤣
If every single bit of information we're out there for what he did it wouldn't matter, it's an art and a lot of it has to do with his ear and nobody's going to do it exactly the same way as he can, and if it were out there and he ended up losing jobs because another person took his information and got better than he could then he wasn't that good in the first place.
At some point he's going to die in that information is just going to disappear with him then, and if it's that special of a thing it should be shared with the world and it's pretty selfish to deprive the world of something like that
\m/ I'm with Josh!
Would love to see the old “no one knows” episode
you can find it on reddit
Fantano got hair plugs?
Too late.
It ruptured at "his" identificatory public enunciation. Toggle Switches and Highlighter unreflexive oscillation will crown them with ontological approval before stepping out again. They will wait until it does so.
-Dwight d Eisenhower. Good quote.
@@praetentious2925 If it fulfilled I would not question it.
@@gonzogil123 for was it not before the receiving
@@praetentious2925 Probably tried to dribble.
i hate people who keep secrets that could help others. they're afraid of someone being better than them. such an ego thing.
A certain type of artist is really protective of the way the tricks and illusions are performed. Josh Homme wants that for his fans and I respect it, because far too often the alternative sounds something like: "There is no magic, I promise you. There isn't a single, solitary reason to worry your pretty little head about any of that once you've purchase my new Songwriter's Home Recording and Bathroom Mastering course for $39.95 today." We've severely mistreated art in this age of information.
Not necessarily. If I can figure it out, so can you.
Eric is the man. That dude trying to build mystique over a band no one will remember in the next 10 years. poser. Eric is the man and he knows better than those punks. Thanks.
QOTSA hasn’t put out a good record since songs for the deaf
Laughter victimized them channel.
No, there is nothing else to it the only thing he can claim is an ethical child rapist and snuff torturer exhausted out of outputting anything else. But he will nevertheless insist others make that size of fantasy true. The rupture will be > than the size of the fantasy. The idea is how to accomplish what he secures.
Queens of the Stone Age has to be one of the most overrated bands in history! He's doing everyone a favor!
It’s a lot like pulling the ladder up as the ship full of money leaves port. Sadly, I lose respect for Josh as the years go by after being a die hard fan. I can’t remember the last time I put one of their records on for this reason. Suing the Kyuss guys for the right to not use the name was a bully move and not a good look.
That, and the charges of His kids for domestic violance/abuse....
@@i.m.22 I hadn’t heard that. Much more serious if it’s true
After suing Kyuss, Josh can get bent. There’s zero love here for a complete egomaniac.
Josh is a horrible player, that silly tone of his is all he got!
Josh wrote some badass Riffs over the years, but he's really a total douchebag!
Also IMHO his tone isnt that special....
It's okay sweetie. It was just a nightmare. You go back to sleep now.
please show me on the doll where he hurt you?