"Fuck": FTC Vaguespeak & COPPA Rant (Currently Operating Poorly, Please Avert)

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2019
  • FTC Comments: www.regulations.gov/comment?D...
    A better commentary than mine: • Marking “Not For Kids”...
    Hazbin Hotel Creator (Show her love, I command it): VivziePop/status/...
    Oh by the way, this video isn't for kids. If you couldn't tell by the title being a literal swear word.
    #FTC #COPPA #UA-cam2020
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  • @EditEdward
    @EditEdward  4 роки тому +82

    Feeling cute, might delete this later.
    Unlikely until someone stops threatening my friends because they want to brand an entire medium with an easy brush...
    And that's even in the alternate timeline this somehow DOESN'T have reach beyond the US.

    • @GoodNight0wl
      @GoodNight0wl 4 роки тому +3

      What sucks is UA-cam Often prefers to issue restrictions on it's content creators. Rather than do reforms on their own. It's flat out lazy. I'm no content creator. This is just an outside looking in perspective. I don't know anything. That's just how it looks.

    • @Volvith
      @Volvith 4 роки тому +8

      Please do not delete this!
      Any effort towards getting the ball rolling against this madness is worth it's weight in gold.
      Something needs to change, and someone has to start pushing...
      As for who that someone is, preferably _as many people as possible,_ so let's try to get the word out to everyone who isn't aware how bad this situation is yet.

    • @Scrombo2
      @Scrombo2 4 роки тому +7

      It's like some greek comedy, you don't know how it's going to get worse until it does

    • @EditEdward
      @EditEdward  4 роки тому +2

      You know they extended the deadline to december 9th right? www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/10/ftc-extends-deadline-comments-coppa-rule-until-december-9

    • @IchiroFuma
      @IchiroFuma 4 роки тому

      RIP OEM Sr. Sorry to hear that dude. Best wishes.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 4 роки тому +58

    If a creator says something isn't for kids, it isn't for kids.
    ... Because they didn't create it intended to be for kids.
    So... What the fuck is the FTC going to do, just completely ignore all creative context?
    _Wait, why does this sound familiar?..._

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 4 роки тому +22

    This has to be the earliest i've ever been.
    ... My tea isn't even ready yet, bloody hell...

  • @yugijak
    @yugijak 4 роки тому +13

    I just realized
    No way this will go through
    Can you imagine NETHER REALM getting fined for their own MK ad?

    • @laziwastaken
      @laziwastaken 4 роки тому

      If that happens, then may the elder gods protect us and have many answers

  • @yugijak
    @yugijak 4 роки тому +11

    I have always hated when people tell you what you do or make is directed at and then punish you for it.
    I just hate in general when someone else decides they know better about YOU and then PUNISH YOU for something THEY arbitrarily decide YOU need punished for.

    • @PrimeTF
      @PrimeTF 3 роки тому

      I'm fucking dead inside. I'm seriously hating this place I live in.

  • @gespensttype-r68
    @gespensttype-r68 4 роки тому +14

    While I understand the frustration, I feel I must point this out:
    The FTC doesn't actually care about the content. The aim is not to fairly divide what what content is for children and what is not.
    The point is to ruin UA-cam.
    You ruin UA-cam by targeting their customers, because their customers are the ones who create content for the site.

    • @louisdodge3731
      @louisdodge3731 4 роки тому +1

      Google is devolving responsibility to the creators themselves. Other than their initial fine they're unlikely to face action taken directly against them.

  • @Adam-pi6io
    @Adam-pi6io 4 роки тому +5

    UA-cam was not originally a kids platform. FTC are idiots.
    Also huge props and respect that you know Danganronpa. Have you played it?

  • @rhiwright
    @rhiwright 4 роки тому +3

    They need to make the existence of UA-cam Kids more widely known. Seriously, YT has an entire child-friendly version of their platform, this COPPA meltdown is entirely unnecessary.

    • @foulmoodcentral2830
      @foulmoodcentral2830 4 роки тому

      their running adds for it now, whilst obnoxiously reminding their creators to behave and curtail their thoughts and lanquage.

  • @TheXBladeist
    @TheXBladeist 4 роки тому +10

    I wonder if they are in the same planet as us. Like....seriously?

  • @fifiaXD
    @fifiaXD 4 роки тому +8

    “When I get angry I make lists” -OEM.
    I never related so strongly.
    Hopefully we make a big enough impact on UA-cam. They’ve been such idiots as of late.

  • @DeMuypr
    @DeMuypr 4 роки тому +5

    "Elfen lied". Something in fantasy settings, I think. And "Kindergarten"! A beautiful game about junior school relations.

    • @zeldaprincessgirl100
      @zeldaprincessgirl100 4 роки тому +1

      Happy Tree Friends, the most cute and innocent cartoon ever. 🙄🙄

    • @Adam-pi6io
      @Adam-pi6io 4 роки тому +3

      Berserk, awesome action fantasy anime for all the young boys to enjoy.

  • @OblivionCairn
    @OblivionCairn 4 роки тому +11

    I know the app always bashes creators, but I've always loved your content. You kinda replaced TOG in my heart to be honest. Anything you do, I'll support with cheesy fan love.

  • @yangtheinsane5430
    @yangtheinsane5430 4 роки тому +24

    Oh boy, this is getting really bad.

  • @Ch4pp13
    @Ch4pp13 4 роки тому +10

    Games have ratings, right?
    "Yeah."
    So, that would mean it's easy to figure out if a game's child friendly.
    "Yup."
    And that would mean this doesn't make sense, right?
    "Makes sense to me"
    Then don't do it!
    "We must protect children at all cost, and we've reached a point where we have to punish people to get the point across"
    We shouldn't protect children from stuff in this way. I feel like a lot of parents are REALLY overprotective and didn't take any parenting classes if we end up in situations like this. Seems like someone's hungering for even more money short term with the same attention span as a memes lifespan these days. Gone in a week.
    I would say "ok boomer" becuse haha funny, but "HOLY SHIT YOU CAME UP WITH A RATINGS BOARD AND YOU CAN'T USE THAT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME AAAAAAGGGHHH" is much more appropriate.

  • @PluggedHades62
    @PluggedHades62 4 роки тому +3

    I’d like to see them kid friendly mortal kombat

  • @benjaminleffler7796
    @benjaminleffler7796 4 роки тому +4

    From UA-cam's COPPA video and the guidelines they set, a lot of the requirements are more general and lacking contextual relevancy. Within these guidelines it could be argued for majority of videos on UA-cam whether or not they are child-focused.

    • @EditEdward
      @EditEdward  4 роки тому +2

      Argued being the operative word.
      Arguing is time consuming and often proves that the bigwigs are wrong when UA-camrs, trained by years of this shit, present facts. All a process big folks like FTC don't want to spend the time on, tell YT they don't want to spend the time on, and so will let FTC scattershot down just because it's easier. I mean the press chap literally likens it to "shooting fish in a barrel"
      You can still argue, if you want to lawyer up and have the cash to do it. But not everyone does and thus compliance-for-survival comes into effect.

    • @benjaminleffler7796
      @benjaminleffler7796 4 роки тому +2

      @@EditEdward A policy like this could then infect the safety of other videos, especially with the addition of any song or poem that could be added to a video. Or even talking about media centered around content made for children. More of a purge attempt for control.

  • @dubuyajay9964
    @dubuyajay9964 4 роки тому +4

    This is a blatant violation of our First and Eighth Amendment. I wish someone that actually cared had the cash to sue the FTC for this.

  • @huntereyeofdarkwood5417
    @huntereyeofdarkwood5417 4 роки тому +32

    So in short
    Boomer acts like a boomer and use their power to make the world like They think it is and ignoring that its not that way

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 4 роки тому +5

      And _____ group is blamed for everything wrong in the world, even though not all of them are at fault and some of them are hurt by stupid regulations too. Just like the 30s and 40s!

    • @moonwalkerangel7008
      @moonwalkerangel7008 4 роки тому +5

      I actually like this comment as most of the people who want to pass this law are either from that literal generation or at least gen X.

    • @huntereyeofdarkwood5417
      @huntereyeofdarkwood5417 4 роки тому +2

      MoonwalkerAngel700 i just were trying to make the point that They are out of touch and dosent understand (or are willing to understand) the internet or internet culture

  • @fujisan92
    @fujisan92 4 роки тому +3

    Day by day, I felt that my faith in humanity is severly...reduced. Why do they even care? Why don't just ignore this matter and let everyone in their merry way? Is it hard to those behind FTC...to just...not care? Why humanity WHY?!

  • @Menyss_Ice
    @Menyss_Ice 4 роки тому +2

    This is becoming crazy. Hell I hope things get better. I just I am at a lost for words and man never heard this amount of swear words in a while. Hell Hazbin Hotel is amazing. You rock man stay awesome.

  • @MMLCGG
    @MMLCGG 4 роки тому +9

    I hate how parents think that the games, videos, etc are the problem. Nothing boils my blood more than that. There’s a thing called saying “no” to your kids, not to the source. If my 8 year old was watching a violent bloody video then I would take away whatever device they were holding and tell them to not watch it because it was clearly not for them. If I owned a porn company and get a call from a mother telling me to stop making porn that attracts her 12 year old son and start making porn with more clothing on the stars, or something ridiculous like that, so that it’s acceptable to her preference and for her son to watch, then I would tell her to start being a parent with common sense and tell their son to stop watching porn in the first place, THEN hang up! I don’t want any government to tell me what to do because of an audience that I clearly wasn’t aiming towards was complaining to me to change what I do and love! That’s MY job and MY choice!!!

  • @archnebulawordsmith458
    @archnebulawordsmith458 4 роки тому

    I’m so sorry about your father dude... take all the time you need and remember that we are all here for you. We are terribly sorry for your loss.
    May he rest in peace.

  • @morgrimgaming7342
    @morgrimgaming7342 4 роки тому +1

    This strikes a cord with me that hasn't been struck since Totalbiscuit. Keep it up!

  • @BartixShieldsmen
    @BartixShieldsmen 4 роки тому +3

    I see this in my feed, I know I'm in for a wild ride

  • @ragnazero8178
    @ragnazero8178 4 роки тому +21

    I would laugh if Goblin Slayer is Child Friendly in their eyes. Episode 1... EPISODE fking one. Goblin Slayer is already a good example off. Nice looking, family friendly Anime with cute characters. 15 Minutes after. IS THIS CHILD FRIENDLY YET!!
    ... Let's hope it's not.

    • @Ch4pp13
      @Ch4pp13 4 роки тому +1

      Wasn't CrunchyRoll also slammed because they slammed a 12+ rating on it or something?

    • @zeldaprincessgirl100
      @zeldaprincessgirl100 4 роки тому

      Look at Happy Tree Friends, looks cute and cuddly at first, but all hell breaks loose minutes after.

    • @Adam-pi6io
      @Adam-pi6io 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah look how well it turned out for crunchyroll when they just assumed that it is a fun adventurous fantasy anime.

    • @ragnazero8178
      @ragnazero8178 4 роки тому +1

      @@zeldaprincessgirl100 I know. Sheesh. Happy Music. Everything nice. and then... Yeah. Truly family friendly content. Riiiiiight?

    • @ragnazero8178
      @ragnazero8178 4 роки тому

      @@Ch4pp13 Dunno.

  • @calebjones3636
    @calebjones3636 4 роки тому +3

    I’m dying over here! 😂
    This was amazing

  • @harleyboy426
    @harleyboy426 4 роки тому +1

    He has risen!
    But in all seriousness this is ridiculous, you shouldn't be under any kind of legal fire if you mark your content as not suitable for children.
    Missed you lots OEM, hope we can get more of your great content in the future.

  • @patrickmcgann2673
    @patrickmcgann2673 4 роки тому +2

    The issue here is that under USA COPPA, internet sites are not allowed to collect cookies from children, and youtube was sued 175 millions dollars for doing just that. So youtube wants to make sure that doesn't happen again, hence the child thing. Their concern isn't for the safety of the children. Their concern is not getting sued for collecting childrens' data, hence the choosing what is children's content vs. what isn't and why they decide what is vs. what isn't.
    They want to make sure that everything that kids might possibly watch is marked so that they don't collect cookies on those videos because if they are found the be collecting cookies on a video "aimed at children" that they decided was not aimed at children, they are liable for damages.
    So instead, they have put that responsibility solely on the creator and let the FTC (Federal Trade Commission, the people behind COPPA and a bunch of aging, out-of-touch politicians) police it. So long as it is the content creators who are responsible for evaluating their videos based on a list of vague, nonspecific rules, youtube can't be held accountable.
    Lucky us.

    • @Tersina
      @Tersina 4 роки тому

      ^^^
      This.
      This sums it up perfectly.

  • @spider-man7482
    @spider-man7482 4 роки тому +2

    Secretly COPPA is actually a boomer banning you tube because us zoomers use our phones

  • @XplodinApple
    @XplodinApple 4 роки тому +1

    FTC: Sorry this video is not for kids

  • @wickedraptor2651
    @wickedraptor2651 4 роки тому +1

    wouldn't it be amazing if youtube had a youtube app for kids

  • @deamonrodriguez7032
    @deamonrodriguez7032 4 роки тому +5

    oh so that's the lore of silent hill
    interesting

  • @entertheunknown3554
    @entertheunknown3554 2 роки тому +1

    I thought this was new for a second

  • @ryansheffield1759
    @ryansheffield1759 4 роки тому +1

    As a college undergraduate going for a BS (Bachelorette of Science for you Brits, Bachelors of Science here in the US) in Accounting and in Business Administration, I had to take a class on Business Law which is basically an overview of some topics that deal with Business.
    I by no means am a lawyer nor am I specified in California Federal Law (Which is the district in which UA-cam would most likely be taken to court in), but I can say this: from what I remember, there is case law in the US which deals with someone in the business (in the case of a UA-cam channel that would be its creator most likely) claiming that something is one way, but the courts looking at it objectively and determining the case not to be so (in this case, the creator claiming the channel is not for kids-which you say you have done- and the courts overruling that claim by stating that your channel should be for kids). I will try to do a little research when I get some time off of class and work to point out which cases deal with this topic to back up the above statement ASAP.
    The important thing to note is that if there is case law on this, as I believe there is, then that creates a precedent for the courts and depending on the case, judge and evidence provided that precedent can be very hard to overcome.
    Once again: I AM NOT A LAWYER NOR DO I SPECIALIZE IN CALIFORNIA DISTRICT COURT LAW. Please look up the information to verify it yourself if you have an interest now.

  • @douglaslundin4506
    @douglaslundin4506 4 роки тому +4

    I'm gonna go harass Susan until she quits now.

    • @BlaineCraner
      @BlaineCraner 4 роки тому +1

      Susan has nothing to do with this. Nobody at UA-cam, Google or any corporation has.
      It's USA law.

    • @zeldaprincessgirl100
      @zeldaprincessgirl100 4 роки тому +1

      It's the FTC doing it this

    • @harleyboy426
      @harleyboy426 4 роки тому +1

      Susan was one of the ones guiding youtube towards the shit that got this coppa shit on us in the first place

  • @daftlypunk531
    @daftlypunk531 4 роки тому

    Valid point, hopefully this shite gets resolved

  • @stabbi
    @stabbi 4 роки тому

    Will this still count if i just migrate to dailymotion or a platform that isn't based in the us? just as a backup plan.

    • @stabbi
      @stabbi 4 роки тому

      I feel so bad for animators they gonna get hit the hardest.

  • @gzprops
    @gzprops 4 роки тому

    Good on you buddy boo, it is a crazy turn of affairs

  • @ThisIsAutumnAlex
    @ThisIsAutumnAlex 4 роки тому +1

    UA-cam is a website for everyone. There are a few rules but is mostly open for anyone to do what they want. You want to do the cinnamon challenge and risk permanent lung damage? Go for it! UA-cam itself is not a kid friendly place. Punishing everyone because some didn't read or listen to the warnings is ridiculous. A simple "this video is not kid friendly" either spoke or put on the screen should be enough.
    This is the same as a parent walking into a video store with a child , (people remember those right?). The parent leaves them in this kid section while they bugger off somewhere else. The unsupervised child then leaves the safe kiddie section and explores the rest of the shop,. They look at all the horror, violence, action, romance, sci fi films, possibly even the porn section. The parent returns to find little Timmy, freaks out and demands everything become kid friendly only. All because the parent didn't do their job and supervise the kid. It is the job of the parent not the store/ website/ mobile phone to raise/supervise/ babysit their child.

  • @nathanielthomson3455
    @nathanielthomson3455 4 роки тому +1

    Unless you're a toy company you shouldn't be concerned with advertising towards chicken. This bullshit is just another excess to tighten the chokehold on creative freedom

  • @brogflea6380
    @brogflea6380 4 роки тому

    Dear Lord this looks.. desasterous and then some. On an unrelented note, is Clipfish still online?

  • @TheHellsing300
    @TheHellsing300 4 роки тому

    This is why we need a UA-cam

  • @DisAnimated
    @DisAnimated 4 роки тому +1

    AHH yes all cartoons are for kids ever and have always been, such childhood movies as Felix the cat where tire classics

  • @ninjahmos3162
    @ninjahmos3162 4 роки тому

    This...can’t be good...

  • @foulmoodcentral2830
    @foulmoodcentral2830 4 роки тому +1

    To parents: Somehow, someday, your child's innocence will end or be shattered. if it doesn't happen by learning swear words at school or finding things above their age-grade as usual. (movies, games, magazines, older children being mean etc) being twelve and hearing the song the internet is for porn doesn't irreparably damage you. so much of this child worship weakness makes me sick. to the content creators: You've done more for this platform then it will ever concede or realize. and its about time to pool together with fellow creators in your genre or subject to get your audience somewhere where they can share and view without hinderance or bs.
    make a youtube-gaming yourselves. the platform is obviously not going to support you. but your audience will. something to think about. To OverEnglishman, merry christmas. take it easy. youtube can manage ruining itself on its own just fine. sometimes you gotta walk away from this dumpster fire.

  • @dimitriwarchief301
    @dimitriwarchief301 4 роки тому +2

    well i guess your really are a grave walker
    i know the feeling of disappearing too. i will catch up with your content my dude

  • @jett5180
    @jett5180 4 роки тому

    So why can’t they give people a choice to disable their comments

  • @obliviousnaga2633
    @obliviousnaga2633 4 роки тому

    OEM afterlife has a special room that is just lists. Do not enter

  • @pascall0
    @pascall0 4 роки тому

    So another coat for SOPA, right

  • @nytrol2138
    @nytrol2138 2 роки тому

    Amen

  • @mimikyu9171
    @mimikyu9171 4 роки тому +2

    Fuck coppa.

  • @zeldaprincessgirl100
    @zeldaprincessgirl100 4 роки тому +1

    Happy Tree Friends.
    🙄🙄

  • @niveknaylik531
    @niveknaylik531 4 роки тому +1

    Oh ? So you were dead ? Wow. Congratulation for going back to life ! Jesus ?

    • @niveknaylik531
      @niveknaylik531 4 роки тому

      Welp, I'm okay with what you said... Kids should play mario and assassinate Koopas without blood... X)

  • @diredm3889
    @diredm3889 4 роки тому +1

    Who is more Brtish? The Spiffing Brit Or the OverEnglishMan?!?

    • @EditEdward
      @EditEdward  4 роки тому

      Spiff.
      The OEM character hasn’t been used in a long time, now there’s just me, and I’m just ordinary english, not over

    • @diredm3889
      @diredm3889 4 роки тому

      @@EditEdward You will always be OVER Extrordinary to me!

    • @foulmoodcentral2830
      @foulmoodcentral2830 4 роки тому

      @@EditEdward Still love ya though, you twat. had to add something english in there...

    • @OverlordMalarkey
      @OverlordMalarkey 4 роки тому

      OEM vs Spiffing Brit vs FeedBackGaming vs Alex the Rambler vs Mini Ladd

  • @manman-oy2mc
    @manman-oy2mc 4 роки тому +1

    I don't want to like it, because my liked video playlist is filling up quickly. However, I will dislike the video and comment for better reach. Did I help?

  • @nothingheargoawaybye9218
    @nothingheargoawaybye9218 4 роки тому

    shit man i know this is nothing new but damn this srsly is getting out of hand now

  • @raekoyyamazaki5456
    @raekoyyamazaki5456 4 роки тому +1

    I rocking hate coopa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @TraxOferta
    @TraxOferta 4 роки тому

    I can feel on your tone how you're more than mad, but I don't know a word in english that better translates how I call it in my language, so, wow.
    14 minutes of pure anger over stupid people doing stupid shit. I can understand that to be honest.
    Let's hope someone learns that UA-cam Fucking Kids exists and makes the kids go there.