Sendoff Of War: The Discount Ranger
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
- Credit to The Real Ranger - bit.ly/2usglWP || Ed's Twitch: / editedward || Ed's Patreon: bit.ly/2pNOtYn || Discord: bit.ly/2GeJNoB || "Murmurs have been heard of a second Gravewalker in Mordor. A much less suave, much less skilled one..."
Outlaw Tribes, Slaughter Tribes, #Gravewalker Difficulty etc. Welcome, Ranger, to the present day. For one night only.
(Real talk a mo, pinned comment will also reflect this)
This all began as taking the mickey on the people who berated my old longform, low-edit OEM videos as being "stealing" from the bigman despite us being...well...pretty different in vibe.
I'm a secure enough chap to admit the homage-satire was partly good natured inspo, & partly bitter "give you something to really moan about" energy.
But in the years that followed, I learned a lot from this journey. SoW:DR taught me to love editing again after uni beat it out of me; it begat X:MBR, which became channel-defining; it forced me out of using the (speedily turning IRL toxic) OEM persona, since he couldn't vocally carry the "ripoff" gag. I want to say thank you; to all the people who left angry, strange, nonsensical comments & messages (back when YT had those) that spurred this into inception. I literally couldn't have done it without you. And to all the people who saw a harmless fan's gaff for what it was & expressed support. You're the reason it continued & is, now, concluding.
Irony is, over the years the "thiefcallers" stopped. I think I get one/two a year now where pre-SoW it was a decent rate per month.
This last episode has been (quite visibly by time & content) difficult to make. Behind the curtain there were a lot of questions.
-How do you close out a sting piece aimed at people who moved on & no animosity remains either side, even evolving to outright gratitude?
-How do you end a meta-narrative about two different rangers?
-Largest of all. How do you deal with how hard SoW's ending S U C K S?!
Both in gameplay & narrative, I truly believe SoW disservices itself at the last - and not knowing that, when I came to record it I found all my ideas for finales (such as a fully-written Rap Battle that I would lose against ToG 'final boss') crumbling away. I don't know what they were thinking here.
But enough of that. The sour finale is over - go celebrate our Mordor lord of old. Say it with me, for old times' sake. "The T to the O to the goddamn G!" - Link in the endcard and description. For on this day, The #DiscountRanger rides from Mordor forevermore! Peace y'all!
I hope on some level y'all enjoyed this satire story of shameless knock-off that revelled in the ripping & spun out so hard it create its own lore (looking at you, Killabrimbor & co)!
I never intended to "steal" the WHOLE style (e.g. bad joke cutaways, screams etc.) - the older more sedate (but still dramatic) SoM-era style was the aim. Now at the end of the experiment I'd say we half got there. The pace was there, but the commentary quality & creativity was lacking on my part. Blame the ep-by-ep growing amount of "me" as time went by since, well, we're different dudes.
Sound Assets pinched from Various Games
Bought from HumbleBundle
Downloaded from sites offering freebies over Covid
& some are straight up custom Frankensteins I made myself
Additional Music By:
-EposVox' Backing Track: / @eposvox
-Turbo: / turboa
-ArtificialFear: • 1989 Batman Theme (Met...
-Queen
-Kayne
-ERB
-Me (you can tell by the struggle to hit the tenor-tricks)
#Shadowofwar - Ігри
Real talk a mo (WARNING: Long Comment, as addressing the delays & general whole series)
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This all began as taking the mickey on the people who strangely berated my old longform, low-edit OEM videos as being "stealing" from the bigman despite us being...well...pretty different in vibe. A problem I later found out wasn't exclusive to me, fun fact. This hit a few UKers at the time.
I'm a secure enough chap in myself to admit that 2017 Ed's idea for the homage-satire was partly good natured inspo, & partly bitter "give you something to really moan about" energy. Mostly the former, but using the latter as engine fuel to actually get up & do it.
But in the years that followed, I learned a lot from this journey. SoW:DR taught me to enjoy editing again after uni beat it out of me; it begat X:MBR which became channel-defining; it forced me out of using the (speedily turning IRL toxic) OEM persona, since he couldn't vocally carry the "ripoff" gag. Thus, I want to say thank you; to all the people who left angry/strange/nonsensical comments & messages (back when YT had those) that spurred this into inception. I literally couldn't have done it without you.
And to all the people who saw a harmless fan's gaff for what it was & expressed support (including one long-term friend I made via this shindig). You're the reason it continued beyond a one-off and is, now, concluding. Thank you all so much.
Irony is, over the years the "thiefcallers" stopped. I think I get one/two a year now where pre-SoW it was a decent rate per month.
This last episode has been (quite visibly by both delay & the content itself) difficult to make. Behind the curtain, there were a lot of 'approach' questions that stalled the process of getting this done. Beyond the usual delayers of IRL dayjob & mental health.
-How do you close out a riff piece based on people who moved on? Esp. when no animosity remains either side. Heck, even evolving to outright gratitude from mine to theirs?
-How do you end a meta-narrative about two different rangers when the game is inevitably gonna just have one?
-Largest of all. How do you deal with how hard SoW's ending S U C K S?!
I think we've covered them all mostly in one way or another, I'm sorry it took so long - I'm not a very good nor fast "ideas guy".
But let's quickly revisit that last one because it does define the video a bit.
Both in gameplay & narrative, I truly believe SoW disservices itself & its character at the last. Not knowing that when I came to record it, I found all my ideas for finales (such as the LotR cast in group therapy after being replaced, or a fully-written Rap Battle that I would lose against ToG 'final boss') crumbling away. This also was a delay in itself. I don't know what they were thinking here. So my deepest earnest apologies for the rather boring gameplay on display here. I tried my best but wow it doesn't give you much to work with, even after grinding to Max for the strongest matchups. Plus, while we're here. I missed the SoM "Your worst Nemesis" boss design!! Mog The Poisoned deserved one last hurrah!
But enough of that. The sour finale is over - go celebrate our Mordor lord of old. Say it with me, for old times' sake. "The T to the O to the goddamn G!" - Link in the endcard and description. For on this day, The Discount Ranger rides from Mordor forevermore! Peace y'all!
As always, I'll be supporting you not because you might be a ripp-off of someone I might know, but because I like YOU. And your way of doing things. And as you may have seen it in Patreon, I don't intend on coming back on that.
I didn't fully followed the game (as I jumped in after discovering XCOM:MBR), but your narration on this game was on par with your style, the one that made me like XCOM and the one that made me stay. Sucks the ending is bad, but the video was enjoyable. Just a regret to not have heard ToG rap battle ? XD
So, what's next Discount Ranger / Commander ? In the category "great series I would ask death to wait just to see one more episode", what will be the next game ? (If you have any idea ?)
There is no rip off ranger your editing is very good and I love watching all your hard work and making your own funny versions of the story never give up what you injoy doing strive too be the best you can be at what you do
DLC NEXT
If you don't mind me asking ED, since I've loved your imput over the years on the game(Though I had to retrace my steps since it has been a long time since I got back into the game) What hopes would you want for a sequel? I predict refining the nemesis system so the plot about the nemesis system and the plot work a bit more hand in hand than Shadow of War.
@Edit:Ed, I'll support you even if my favourite series has gone. I'll always rewatch it when I need a pick me up.
And so, the “discount” rangers journey ends.
Glad to see you managed to get through this and I hope everything in your life will go smoothly Ed.
Same to you Ani
The ONLY thing I truly hate about the ending? Talion's soul walks off into the sunset, but we don't see his family waiting for him. Talion's story is supposed to be defined by war, and I actually appreciate the twist that Talion was holding back Sauron's forces for years until his will finally gave out, because that makes Talion one of the strongest and most tenacious bastards in Middle-Earth. The dwarves could never be corrupted by the Rings of Power, but Talion WAS being corrupted and managed to hold on while also waging an unending war against everything in Mordor. And at the end he's freed from Sauron's control and can move on. So what SHOULD happen is that Talion should play the Old Soldier, finally coming back to his family after years of war. And we don't get that.
As for Celebrimbor and Eltariel? Once again, my disdain for elves has proven validated, because Celebrimbor was slipping ever since he made that bloody ring of his, and his disloyalty to Talion because he objected to keeping Isildur enslaved and instead chose to KILL A BLOODY RINGWRAITH PERMANENTLY shows that the love between him and Talion had been well and truly lost, sacrificed on the altar of a dead elf's ego and ambition. And Shelob validates it all, saying that had Talion gone along with Celebrimbor's shit, the Bright Lord would have become a new Sauron, and Talion having a conscience stopped it. So where Celebrimbor fucked up royal, succumbed to his own personal evil and got screwed, Talion opted to stay true to himself, do the right thing, and chose to fight and suffer just to buy as much time for Middle-Earth, hoping he'd make a difference in the end.
Also, FUCK Eltariel and her DLC. The characters in it are good, including the two Ringwraith OCs they came up with for it, but she DID NOT deserve a DLC. That shit should have been Talion's and Talion's alone. Show him trying to connect with his army and trying to maintain his sanity, actually shoring up the defenses to last against the sieges. Tie that shit into the Shadow Wars to help pace it out and give you a REASON to want to play defense missions all day. But no, gotta give the SECOND WORST female character in the game a DLC all her own and give Talion the shaft. And that's saying a lot when her competition is a spider old enough to have dated Sauron in High School, a tree with tits that can barely speak English, and Talion's dead wife
Baranor's DLC is fine, even if it feels like Assassin's Creed: Middle-Earth at times and the difficulty is jarring to those who played the base game more casually. Man needed some love, and he got it.
agreed also Eltariel could have saved Talion in her DLC and chose not to.
While I agree with you in that it would have been nice to see his family, we are still shown that they are reunited with the white rose, the last gift Talion gave to his wife, growing next to his knife, the broken blade of his son. I think it's mean to symbolically show that they are together now but could have been made stronger if his sword or the broken remains of the ring was in the shot as well.
As for the DLCs I haven't played her DLC so I can't really comment on it yet but I have done the Baranor and found it pretty good and a good but fair challenge as long as you are coming at it with a strategic mindset since you can no longer just throw yourself at the problem again and again until you kill it like you can in the base game. I honestly spent my time with it first collecting all the upgrades and money I could scavenge until I had all the upgrades and could afford some good legendary help.
I'm pretty sure that we see the silhouettes of people in the light who may be his friends and family
@@vincegalila7211 Yes, but it's not explicit enough to be truly gratifying.
You got an Olog Stormbringer.
The rarest return from death character change.
On an Olog.
That shouldn't happen.
So I’ve heard. And I am disappointed all over again that the ologs are so painfully 1-2 note. Guess all the personality went to Bruz Baz Gaz Daz…a bunch of one offs you aren’t allowed to recruit (fully in Bruz’ case)…joy
@@EditEdward Sad thing is, I have played this game for a long time repeated it over and over, I love it to pieces. But the Olog statement is so true it hurts - the fact none of the Bruz accented Ologs can not be recruited/naturally encontered, and the ones with any eccentric changes are either glitches or really hard to get.
@@EditEdward there's actually a few rare uruks that have a lot of personality, the antagonizor is one of them, who is voice by an American comedian, and one voice by a VA of a cartoon
Think there’s been a misunderstanding here. We’re talking about Ologs and you’re talking about Uruk
@@EditEdward Actually since I got your appearance here. There's a glitch in War where you can actually recruit Bruzs family, Zog, etc and have them as commanders. Just saying that due to my previous comment.
This has been... a long time coming. I could go on a 4000 word message about how this series has changed and evolved, but I feel like the only things I should really say are as follows
1. Thank you, for the literal years of entertainment and content
2. I completely understand how difficult it must have been to work with this game's trainwreck of a finale. Truly, the only thing that it did well was really show just how resilient and amazing a person Talion truly was, he'd have been a hero of legend, had he merely been born a few centuries sooner, with the blood of Numenor in his veins.
3. Whatever comes next, regardless of what game it is, I'll be there, and I'll more than likely enjoy it
Cheers, one last pint of grog for the Ranger
I’ll join you in that pint
i kinda hope if they finish with mordor they actuallyake a fully original series and use the nemesis system in it, i love the system because it can cause some pretty interesting stuff to happen
You came across a genuine bug where the Olog got a Legendary Scar he shouldnt have gotten, usually only Uruks can get that and get a sick black arm and blade, its actually pretty fucking rare
Stormbringer usually only happens if you de-limb an uruk with a high nemesis score and you already have a machine around
Of course.
Of course an actually interesting olog that isn’t Bruz Gaz Baz or Daz was just a bug :(
@@EditEdward Oh and the whole Brother thing going on was that he is basically an Uruk Nazghul? Somewhat? Kinda? Whatever Talion becomes after he put on Isildurs Ring, just not as bad and in Uruk form
@@EditEdward Pain-lover and the Stitch were interesting Ologs, but I agree they were definitely underdeveloped compared to the Uruks.
Funny enough I was rewatching all the previous episodes over the last couple of days, gotta say I still enjoyed your videos over the years they're one of the series I go back to to just binge watch when having an off day. Now I'm going to kick back and watch this one knowing it's the last of the series but still looking forward to more from you in the future. From a guy who has his own tough battles in life to you I genuinely thank you for your videos from the bottom of my heart as they have been a help to me over the years.
Stay strong Torin
I remember when I first started watching this series, I had watched TOG's POV and while his made me laugh my ass off I felt more attached to your POV series because you made a genuine effort to keep us wanting to see more of your shenanigans.
I'm glad that you've finally put the nail in this coffin after 5 years as well, you did a hell of a job with it and you should be proud to have finished this behemoth of a game/series.
Thank you, Dusklight
Anytime mate@@EditEdward
This feels like that emotion you get when a good movie ends. You're glad you watched it, but sad it's over.
You’re far too kind to this messy end lol
Loved the Samurai Jack inspired intro, very fitting
I felt so :D
I have been struggling to find the right words to comment here for a while now so I'll try to keep this brief. I remember the first video I saw of yours was in my 8th grade and I was about to enter into highschool. For me it was such a stressful time and I was so unsure of everything but at then I stumbled upon your first Discount Ranger video and in a time I really needed it, you helped me find my smile again. So now I write this now as a new student now attending university and I just wanted to say thank you so much for bringing me so many smiles and laughs during a difficult time in my life. I will miss this series but I will never forget it !!!
thank you Ed , for everything .
If I have lerned anything from this series it is this: Determination to finish something not always pays of in a great way but it leaves you with a personal satisfaction of having finished it by your own hands, your own sweat, your own tears and your own blood.
Im glad to have watched this series from beginning to the end just like the Xcom WotC MBR.
For your future projects all the best, I will be there.
o7.
Sometimes it’s just about getting it done. Even if SoW’s weird design choices are in the way
The echoes of ToG actually gave me chills. Well done, sticking to the theme like that
Well gotta stick to the bit, even if it’s an old one haha. Not like the game gives us a satisfying enough ending to carry playing it out straight
@@EditEdward dare I ask where the world of UA-cam and sandwich begging leads next for Mr Edit:Ed?
Same as it’s been in the update videos that 90% nobody watched cos it wasn’t SoW or XCOM lol (I don't blame y'all)
-Clear the card (now done)
-Streams & VoDs (slowly getting the latter off the ground) to keep diversified in case YT goes under
-High edits & medium edits. I’m current talking to an editor for the latter but he too has a dayjob and life shiz so don’t expect Mark and Lixian lol
"You're not suppose to be hit me if i'm dodging"
For Honor in a nutshell with all of the springboards and slippy floors in that game.
I’ll take your word for it!
@@EditEdward For the record there are not Actually springboards and slippery floor, but the length some of those lunge attacks when they're not suppose to go that distance is what i refer to as Springboarding.
And the slippery floor is just sliding across the ground as they're heavy attacking you, which is NOT suppose to do that either.
I swear every time I see a new video pop up, I get so hyped to see you back in action and this is certainly one of those moments where I'm glad I stayed! As one, I wouldn't be able to find out how the Discount Ranger's story end and two, I just get to enjoy your content, seeing how you take your own spin on certain games with the story and characters, making the game a whole different experience which is mostly better than the orginal! Anyway, I just want to thank for what you do as you really do make the world a better place and are one of people who inspire me to voice act and improve on it everyday. Again, thank you for what you do and keep up the amazing work. Best wishes ED and the rest of the community.
o'7
Got those bits like 'he shat himself on the hot seat' were hysterical, we're those original or from something? Absolutely pissed myself during those parts, thanks for the great series man
Carefully cribbed from ToG building his office. Though the ending two clips are original.
Congratulations for putting this one to bed. It's very poetic that you grabbed Tear to deliver the very joke that spawned this series in the first place, as one final middle finger to the people who derided you over it. In the end, the Discount Ranger chooses his own fate, and to hell with anyone who mocks him for it.
I love that Killabrimbor going over the edge into the shitty sell-out "FORCE EVERYONE TO BUY MY SHIT" rap-sona is what finally drove him and Talion apart. I enjoyed the "Suffer Me Now" video, but restraint never quite was in his vocabulary.
I’m pleased to hear it worked out well :)
A lot has happened over the last few years. I've lost friends, family, pets, homes, and far more money than I'd ever admit, but the time? Well it might not always been productive, but I'd say it was well spent for the most part, especially on this channel, and it's reaffirmed my desire to live at least another 99 years so I can die at the ripe old age of 125 with all the memories I can get. So, for all those who couldn't make it here today and the ones we've lost along the way, a tall drink to the future. We're still here, so may we all live long, prosper, and have plenty of laughs together along the way. Cheers.
I join that drink.
It was a long jorney, but a very interesting one. Lets hope the next ones to come are just as fun but without the stress.
And that the new shadow of game or sucessor has less annoying or boring story moments
A M E N.
Though I think “Shadow of” is quite dead. I am looking forward to them trying nemesis system in other games after they PATENTED IT AND THEN LEFT IT ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE lol
@@EditEdward Well, someone implemented a Nemesis system mod for Skyrim so if you're feeling particularly masochistic one day...
@@EditEdward the new wonderwoman game is confirmed to have it
"You can't just simply walk into Baroudor..." you say that, but evidently anyone can just waltz in ....
Was not expecting a Discount Ranger upload as I come back to college for the year.
But it is a pleasant surprise.
Glad to hear something outta this finale was pleasant, even if it wasn't SoW itself lol
I have witnessed history. In honesty I'm not an avid subscriber that watches all your uploads, but popping in a couple of times a year when you pop up on my feed has been a interesting experience. Seeing the subtle changes (like your commentary flair) and the big ones (like the brand change), it's just amazing to watch content creators big and small evolve. And another thing, while I did say I wasn't a frequent watcher, your Modded Beyond Reason series was what go me into XCOM and now turn-based tactical strategies are among my favourite genres, I still remember commenting on one of your videos and you responded, which felt personal (even though I'm pretty sure it was me being a smart ass about armoured vipers or some sh*t). I have no idea what the contention is for this rambly paragraph. Maybe just... thanks.
Honestly - I'm amazed anyone is still here, and touched.
Thank you, Lacho.
And so concludes the series that first introduced me to your channel, convinced me to subscribe to you here and then eventually follow, subscribe to and then support you on Twitch as well for all the emotional, hilarious and fun moments that it entails to this day and many more to come...
Here's to you Ed, you hilarious git
May the Cupson Specials and Xager/Grolebombs support you forever
Our lord has graced us.
This Bright Lord (For it SHOULDA been Bright Lord. Full AU. Not this weird wraithy lore-tie that doesn't quite land) - bows before thee.
Talion with Bright Lord Armor has about as much health as an Uruk Archer
This game really did do Eltariel dirty, I really did like her in the begining then she decides "Actually you know what, i'm okay with the ranger dying so I can use the power instead" It's so out of left field
Right?
I just assumed she was desperate to see Sauron’s reign end, since she was only in Mordor in the first place because Galadriel sent her to keep the Nazgûl in check. Problem is the Nazgûl are immortal, so she seemed doomed to fight them forever. When she and Talion were tracking Hammerhand, she told him “in the war against darkness, stalemate is victory.” This is probably what she told herself to cope with her doomed mission. However, when Talion kills one of the Nazgûl, Eltarial sees that her task was not, in fact, impossible. Celebrimbor offers a way not just to end Sauron’s reign of terror, but a chance to finally complete her quest. The chance she had of freedom from her burden blinded her to Celebrimbor’s true colours, unlike Talion who realised his friend’s new plan was not at all what he signed up for. While Eltarial tried to rationalise the betrayal by weighing Talion’s life with the fate of Middle-Earth, she ultimately made the wrong decision and was doomed to either failure or condemning Middle-Earth to the reign of a third Dark Lord.
Loved the finale, and every video in the series. Looking forward to whatever new series will be uploaded onto the channel!
You're far too kind Bubbles
Ah, this was a pleasant surprise to see in my notification....
A good ending to the series I'd say...you did your best with what the game gave you to work with, and it was a fun ride
Hope that whatever project you start next doesn't become so troublesome/has such a bad finale you have to improvise with like this was
Fingers crossed
You can lay down your sweet and weary head. The night is fallen. You have come to journey's end
The moment of truth has finally arrived. And so have I.
Now, to witness the end of an era.
It doesn’t live up lol
It's insane to think this has been years of comedy and enjoyment
Thank you very much for brightening my day
(Also that under pressure segment was pretty good ngl)
Well the plot already gave up so I thought fuck it let’s go all out silly
Soldiers, salute the end of this old series.
o7
It's been a long time and I enjoyed the finale, congrats to wrapping everything up, looking forward to whatever is next in the future!
Thank you, saddle
Well, haven't seen this series a good while, so this has been a very pleasant surprise. Thank you for reigniting my childhood if you remember my comments from about 4 years ago. I missed this series for a long time.
Im definitely binging this again, and the XCOM
@@communistpotato3204 Enjoy, comrade Potato
@@EditEdward How time flies
One does not simply walk out of Mordor. Not without a cameo at least.
Indeed!
As always, love the song.
Really hoping for a third game where we get Talion vs Celebrimbor.
Unlikely since Tali's pretty dead lol. It seems they REALLY wanted Eltariel to be the new protag but despite Laura Bailey's best, the writing just isn't there.
And it ends. I had the same reaction when I got to the Shadow war and then the ending of the game. Sooo after all that fighting Talion turns and what kills him is a random rock because of the one ring.
Tali was cheated out of a good bossfight. And the player was cheated out of TWO good bossfights lol.
WK being 100% counter isn’t fun. And Sauron, fucking SAURON should not be easily felled by running away and arrowspam with a bizarre checkpoint 5-6 hits from death
awsome! cant wait to see more from you my g.
also chears to tog for actually leanding his hand in letting things go full circle
Right? Brett’s a lovely dude and a nice neat circle for the joke on how it all started
I can't think of any amazing statement to make, or any crazy thing to say so I'll just say these two things;
Thank you for all that you have made over the years, and thank you for being you till the end. I remember starting this back when I was just exiting high-school, and it's been something I've come back to every time I needed a laugh, and seeing this end is simply a beautiful reminder of both your journey and my own over these last years.
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
o7 Tamara
It’s honestly crazy how this series arguably surpassed TOG’s run through
The jokes, the edits, the voice work, all contributes so perfectly to the product
Well technically Minas Morgul is not Morder per se, its just a forward base into Gondor
Not to mention that Sauron only wanted it for the Garden Planter
That god damn garden planter. That’s where the trouble started
This finale was an absolute banger! I'm glad you could finally wind it up to a close. It's been fun! So, what's next in the adventures of our beloved friend Ed?
Y’all keep asking that like I haven’t said it before lol
I was halfway expecting to hear Seth from the witch King as "the ranger who faltered in his mission" thingamajig to bring the whole crew around but even without that it's nice to see the end of your path. You three showed me an amazing (if clunky and sometimes feeling like held by duck tape) game that I revisit at times. Been a blast to watch this and even if it took a while,well worth the wait. Salute to the Gravewalker who walked out of darkness
Honestly if he was more available I absolutely would’ve! Been alas, time haha
Really wish this wasn’t the last episode but I can just rewatch the whole series whenever I want
I originally wanted to go further. But quite honestly the game itself rather turned me off the concept. I’m hopeful the Wonder Woman game learns from SoW the good ideas but keeps the single player focus of SoM more
@@EditEdward okay however you should have tried to get the bard orc before completing the game
I did go back during shadow wars but every time he spoke he lagged up as he did in episode. Strange boy
Ed that was some amazing editing and thank for all you have done to get though this I am happy I got to watch to the end
o7
It's hard to believe this journey is finally over. It's been literal years since it began and part of me honestly doesn't want to to be over. But I guess all things must come to an end at some point, I'm just glad we got such a spectacular one. And whatever comes next for you, our artist formerly known as the discount ranger, know that I and many others will be here waiting however long it takes.
See you on the other side, Nicholas
Thank you for all of the years of entertainment. While the end of the actual game is garbage, you did a fine job of spit-shining it and making it freaking hilarious!
You’re far too kind, thank you :)
This game has an interesting plot if you use the terms interesting and plot in the loosest possible sense
I love this
This is strangely nostalgic
It's damn good to see you back with the end of this series! Though that sideshow was depressingly accurate ..
Yup…
It's worrying to me that the ending of this game was a surprise, when I have in fact played through it. I guess that's just how powerfully forgettable an ending like this is when it just doesn't work. Fortunately, I think your ending is a bit more memorable.
SoW is a right Mess-oW that’s for sure!
I look forward to all of your future projects
o7
For "Focus mode" - isn't it an elven trick? Sauron should be able to see through it and fasten accordingly. He was from Maiars, after all. And the start of the epilogue... Was perfect!
You’d think, but this depiction misses…a lot.
I don’t think SAURON should take damage from Elf shot as you kite him one end of arena to the other on repeat and all he can do is walk slowly forward
@@EditEdward True, true... Anyway, thanks for the video and keep being cheerfull!
Just finished watching this and although I think this is the first time I've commented on the channel I've been one of those silent watchers, thanks for all the years of content for this series, it was this and Xcom that brought me to your channel, I enjoyed it back then and I enjoyed it today.
Hell of a journey Discount Ranger, I wish you good luck and good times with whatever comes next.
Gods bless ya Deadput. Also since I brought it up I’m pretty sure I’ve seen your name before, just the context is fuzzy. Thank you nonetheless!
@@EditEdward I've made mods for Xcom 2 on the steamworkshop and you have commented on some of them, but as far as I recall this is the first time I've commented on a youtube vid of yours, I tend to be a lurker when it comes to youtube content personally.
But again I've enjoyed every episode along the way!
Ah! That’s where I know the name! Thank you it was itching me. So many platforms and so many screennames nowadays it’s a needle in a haystack to find where you know you know something from
@@EditEdward Yup, understand what you mean!
Heh. Not bad, man. Not bad at all. I remembered watching this series since leaving cert all through college and I have to say, I'm glad I sat through it all. The style of video making and quality you've developed is easily one of the more enjoyable ones on this site. Im still smiling at it even as other content creators lack the level of satisfaction they once gave in their earlier years. So congratulations on finally bringing it all to a close and in your own way.
NOW FOR THE DL- *Sounds of feet dragging against the floor as the orderlies come to restrain the mad bastard*
T H E R E
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my guy you are AWSOME and don't let anyone tell you ANYTHING DIFRENT keep up the great work and steady on
Bless you Fenris
Talion deserved better though the plot decided to have him hit rock bottom..or bottom rock cause, you know
Amen, SoM / A lot of SoW was already pretty fanfic-y.
Thus, I say we needed a full brawl with Sauron (a PROPER boss, not just the walking arrowmagnet we got) rather than having to tie it to the LotR lore we'd already ignored when we made goddamn Isildur a wraith
A fitting sendoff to a five year series. Thank you for all of your hard work Ed, especially through all the stress. May we drink to its send off and its return, may it be bittersweet and ended with relief.
And fewer grey hairs all around.
Yeah SoW really didn’t wanna play ball in a lotta ways. But IRL was the bigger bugbear. Gladly both are now donezo
I’ve loved your content, ever since I got introduced to it via the Gracewalker himself. I have loved both your edited and unedited content, and from the bottom of my heart hope to see more.
Your XCOM series was always a joy to watch, and I watched it alongside Sethorven’s series. Your Huniepop series, (of which I hope you play the sequel,) made not only myself, but also my mother laugh in tough times. Last but not least, the Discount Ranger has brought me countless hours of entertainment. It’s sad to see it end, but what a ride it was. 😁
He lives!
False!
He is just barely held alive by a ring. Not a cursed one or anything - just a circle of friends lol
This has been one of my favorite youtube series ever! I hope you come back and play more games, please! I'd really enjoy it
Gah. Pulling the Lost Odyssey at the end there? Okay, I admit that it was effective, but I am slightly annoyed that it was! :D
Anyway. Glad you could finally finish this thingamabob. Here's to whatever mad project you decide to bring to YT next. o/
Gotta rep the Odyssey Galg. We’re some of the last who remember it’
i waited and waited to see your reaction to the "ending" you have no idea how happy this upload made me
Glad on some level it lived up
Man. End of an era. SoW is one of my favorite games and it's great to get some closure for the Discount Ranger, despite all the IRL hiccups and shenanigans. As far as the story goes, I personally think it's fine for what it is and don't mind it that much, but I definitely understand why people take issue with certain things. It's the nemesis system that really makes this game and is the reason I've logged over 400 hours with it. So yeah, cheers to the end of a 5 year journey! Also, Stormbringer olog 😳
I love the part where we got RGB Gaming Eye of Sauron
Now if only Seth could get this finished.
Nah. Seth had the presence of mind to officially end his. I couldn’t close mine in good conscience due to narrative. But I would have years ago if I could lol
At last, Edited Ward has updated yet again! Caloo calay!
Hey we leave that weirdness on Twitch lol.
And yes. For better and mostly worse, the narrative butchering is over
In that beginning fight, if you and Pushkrimp actually had the Blade Lock thing going on when he speaks, it would have been so awesome to do the RULES OF NATURE thing when the lock happened. Unfortunately it didnt happen allow for something like that to be a thing but it would have been pretty awesome
Yeah sadly SoW was really quite unstable this last time out. Lot of hangs, breaks, controller issues and straight up forced minimising me at random. Plus some Uruk just refuse to chat when they should
I love that people are still playing this game, Monolith needs to get the hint and make Middle Earth 3
Honestly I hope they don’t if it’s anything like SoW. Past or present. I hope that they learn their lessons and take it forward to something new where they don’t have to kneecap their design and storytelling for lore reasons nor lootbox reasons
@@EditEdward I really loved Shadow of War, I definitely can see the hate for micro transactions but they aren’t needed to progress. The only problem I had with the game is that the interactions didn’t feel unique enough, after a while you hear the same monologue over and over again. I just wish more stuff from the trailers made it into the game. I could see the series going a few ways if they made another one. They could either show more of Talion during the shadow wars, they could have him come back from the afterlife after a dire call from Mordor or something (not a fan of this one), they could switch focus to Celebrimbor after the fall of Barad-Dur and his escape, hunting down his ring, and the final, most unlikely one. Since this series is not canon, they could let you play as Sauron (who should be dead, that’s why this is non canon), once again after the fall of Barad-Dur rebuilding his army and trying to regain control of Mordor. There is definitely potential for a 3rd game, but the only thing I want is for them to spend more time adding more unique interactions like the trailer had.
I think a lot of people hated the micros for the original Shadow Wars grindathon. But my personal main issue with it was how it afflicted the design philosophies. Primarily that they went in with the knowledge “you can always open and get a handful more uruk” - where SoM seemed built more on “every uruk is a long term investment we expect players to get attached to”.
But for example with orcs having rarities, the cooler weirder ones being WAY harder to create (eg SoM if you wanted an arrow themed returner, kill him with arrow and if he comes back HIGH chance it’s with “the arrow scar”. Whereas SoW, it’s kill him with arrows and then it’s a 1/60 if he come back as the legendary arrowguy, vs coming back basic like nothing happened).
The generally meatgrinder-y/disposable nature is also exemplified in the fight pits. Where SoM a warchief infil was “he has a trial you can escort him thru” now it’s JUST the 100% AI (and uninterruptible) fight pits. And not only can the AI derp out hard at random, ignoring rarity and level advantage, but early days fight pits could just delete totally unrelated uruk. With no way to reliably ress them; that can gimp a good “Right hand uruk” vibe in a heartbeat.
Speaking of uninterruptable. Savior (originally) couldn’t be turned off and no-choice instagibbed enemies. There’s also debate that it may have slashed a nemesis’ chance to revive. Which, as proven in this series with The Stitch, can scupper a good, possibly rare rival before there’s any momentum. For a system that NEEDS you to lose for uruk to get a chance to revive (and thus get the best scars and storylines) that is a huge pain in the arse. But again, storycrafting wasn’t at the forefront.
Blood Brothers just randomly growing on the walls, often appearing with no warning or popup and aligning with your own recruited uruk is also a bugbear. Since blood brother based betrayals often proc iron will. And removing iron will risks deleting your uruk’s personality via derangement all because they got a blood brother you never ordered them to get and the game didn’t inform you they had unless you made a point of hand-checking every uruk’s blood brothership every single time advancement. Feels again like even KEEPING the uruks you have wasn’t an important thing for their design philosophy.
Allies can revive too now, great.
Allies can bleed out now, great, except only applies to bodyguards or during sieges, not somewhere helpful like the fight pits. Oh and if they happen to be on a wall during a siege, screw you they’re permadead, no chance to revive ‘em.
Epics and Legends are also objectively better than baseline uruk due to their traits. Which means if you have a basic boy you wanna keep alive the best way to do that is by using orders to put him on equal footing, which used to come from the boxes. That’s more an outlier one but still notable to me. Since if rarities didn’t exist, nor would them being objectively stronger (and more gameplay desirable) options.
The last part being that with so very many slots to fill between warchiefs and overlords across EVERY fort. Chances of having quality lads in every slot is low - which then I’d presume started to hit home harder in Shadow Wars when Sauron would roll out strongtier rare lads with iron wills. But again I didn’t experience that.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Some of what they did with the nemesis system and the interactions. But there are/were a lot of quite apparent holes in it that they just didn’t seem interested in fixing until they had to remove the boxes, (or still haven’t fixed at all) because you could always plug or supplement them by buying/grinding s few crates and gambling for the best. Which is hardly a basis of good balanced design imo. Similar to if a roguelike balanced itself around only the most overpowered combos knowing if players roll the dice / rerun enough times its inevitable they’ll get an OP build.
@@EditEdward Yeah I can see where you coming from, I guess there are features I am turning a blind eye to or just overlooking. The whole pit fight/lazy captain AI is very annoying and terrible, especially if it’s a guy you like in the fight pits, then he just stands around taunting while getting beat to death. The savior system I actually like. I understand that sometimes your savior kills an Uruk that could potentially play a big role in you Nemesis system immersion, but you gotta admit that it feels awesome to see an orc you like save your life. Getting unique Uruks you like can be very difficult and annoying, but it is understandable when there are so many different variations of a scar or personality. I don’t really have much of a comment on the bleeding out system, there are moments where it feels fine, like during a large and powerful siege defense/attack, and there are times where it feels out of place such as just a normal duel mission. The blood brother thing sort of ties in to another gripe of mine, every single captain I fight has death defying. I don’t know about you, but when I spend 10 minutes downing a damn near invincible captain, I am very upset that he along with the guy I killed 5 minutes ago has death defying, it really starts to annoy me. An easy fix is to just considerably lower the chances of an Uruk having a blood brother or death defying. I also don’t have much to say about the legendary/epic captain vs a normal one. I’m the kind of guy that always has the training orders and miran to spare, so it has never been a problem of mine. There are definitely some broken systems in this game, but I’m sure if they do make another game, these will be touched up on. All they need to do is just spend more time looking into the smaller details like these. Shadow of War is the kind of game in which the little details are what makes the big part of the game so amazing.
Thought mogg would show up. Was kinda hoping for the screamy olog, too.
RIGHT?! And Feldush too.
But no. Gotta minimise attachment so players could (once) just meatgrinder uruks and lootboxes. And boy does it show on examples like that bridge. Which I guess was their attempt at the epic “Your Worst Nemesis” bossfight from SoM back when they cared about experience over dolla
I've never actually played the first game, but I remember the first uruk I had that just refused to stay in the damn dirt lol. Was a feral destroyer if i recall.
To be honest, I kinda missed the whole meta-commentary despite also enjoying TOG Shadow of War series. I just don't know opinions Ed's responding to.
Still, I really enjoyed your series, for hard work, great edits and genuine confusion at the screen.
As I said in the pinned. The opinions stopped with the years so I’m not surprised they can’t be found no more.
And so the Ranger who had accidentally cheated the death the first hundred times, has come to the end of his story.
Fuckin' godlike. Thank you.
Too kind, but appreciated
If you thought the shadow wars was bad now, should of seen it back before it got nerfed.
I've watched your channel for years, and I gotta say watching these series of videos you've made were some of the most wonderful I've watched on youtube.
Best of luck and I wish you all the strength in whatever you decide to do next, even if it's got nothing to do with making videos.
Thank you Heavy, cheers to you
It's good to have you back, makes the waiting seem like no time at all.
You’re crazy, but thank you
Samurai jack reference
But of course! And extra thick too
Well, if you include the Shadow Wars, then Shelob was the only winner here, what is implied here is that Talion was a pain in Saurons/Celebrimbors Ass for long enough that the whole Lord of the Rings Franchise could even happen, because he wrecked mordor for long enough that its armies never really got their asses going again until it was too late for Sauron
Fair and it does say that in the end but it took a hella roundabout route going there. A lot of attempted “LotR-speak” that just muddies things and also I swear SoM/SoW was meant to be offcanon. What was so wrong with just letting us have a big bombastic finish? Put no, grindathon to encourage lootboxes a gogo
I was your 69th view~ hell yeah.
And Ed, I have loved your stuff for a good long time. When I saw you change at the end of XCOM:MBR, I'll admit I teared up alittle. But I was so happy that it ended up best for you. I know you don't post as much as other content creators I watch, but you hold a special place in my memory. Whenever I feel like giving up, I watch your XCom. Whenever I just need a laugh, I watch Discount Ranger. Whenever I need silly song covers to brighten my normally dark days, I have a few to choose from, thanks to you. Never try to be more than you are, because you, OEM persona or no, are the person who has made me smile when I would otherwise have given up. Thank you, and I will always be a teacup.
o7 to you Colin. Here’s to hopefully some less “shackled” content in future
i dunno how the fuck you've managed to get your video recommended to me but you bet your sweet voice acting and storytelling skills i'm gonna watch it and then maybe go back to the beginning of the series
That’s legitimately strange haha! Well anyway, welcome aboard! I’m not here that often. IRL keeps getting in the way. But pop up here and there haha
Well it's been a while since this came out, worry im only just know getting to it. I don't have much attachment to this series, a lot of mine was with xcom. But now that the main series are done, I can't wait to finally see what you've got planned next
Completely understandable, this, similar to XCOM as one of the accidental rabbitholes the channel fell in where the style and game were too distinctive and people wanted to see it end. I’m glad it’s done too so we can all move on :)
I know I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to say thank you for all your hard work and effort over the years, seriously you deserve way more subscribers. I also wanted to thank you for finishing Shadow of War, even though the rushed ending was kinda bad. And I look forward to seeing more from you .
The beauty of video is it’s always here. Party never ends!
And thank you for the kind words bud, and yeah SoW’s ending is…wonky at best, sad given the good games that came before
Hey if you’re looking for another game to make a edited series on then might I recommend A Hat In Time? It’s amazing, light hearted, cute, adorable, and humorous and I would love for you to make another one of these edited series on it! I’m not asking for this right away, only that you give it some thought you know? 😁
Thanks Kamen!
@@EditEdward it’s Blue, and your welcome, oh and there are two DLCs that I know of, one involves mafia cats and the other has absolutely adorable baby seals manning a cruise ship 🥰
Great content as always Ed, hope to see more in the future!
God knows when lol
@@EditEdward Doesn't matter to me if it takes half a year again or more, it always ends up great regardless
It's been a long time, mate. Glad to see you again.
A very long time. Sadly IRL and SoW are/were oft in the way
@@EditEdward Well, life happens. Take care of yourself.
I started watching your shadow of war play-through at the beginning of high-school. And now I’m just a week and a half away from going to college. This has been an amazing ride, and the discount ranger will forever ride in mine and many other peoples hearts. 🥹🥹🥹
o7
Yo welcome back man, hope you alright
It comes and goes but we keep on!
About fucking time! Long have I waited for this
IRL and oddly SoW itself kept getting in the way.
Sorry.
@@EditEdward the wait was worth it my friend I'll see you on your next stream or next time you're on Elden Ring with Seth
Hey man, i loved the episode and i love you, your a amazing youtuber with tons to give to the community.
Tbh i was actually watching you before i ever knew about TOG and you actually introduced me to him, which i heavily appreciate. Keep up all the good work.
But hey if your looking for recommendations for your next story based game i think total war: warhammer 3 would be a really good one as you could get some really funny stuff out of it. You don't have to do it if you already have Plans but thought i put the idea out there.
I hope to see more from ya in the future you amazing man and oh.... T, TO THE O, TO THE MOTHER FING G!
Hey Ed, glad to see you finishing this after so many years. What's the plan for future UA-cam content?
Same as it’s been in the update videos that 90% nobody watched cos it wasn’t SoW or XCOM lol.
-Clear the card (now done)
-VoDs (slowly getting that off the ground)
-High edits & medium edits. I’m current talking to an editor for the latter but he too has a dayjob and life shiz so don’t expect Mark and Lixian lol
@@EditEdward I love your content whatever it is. Have to say I've missed you while youve been on twitch. Now to watch this whole series again as I can't remember what happened 😂
Somethin I wanna know is the names or links of every single song and bit of music my man here used, ESPECIALLY if it means I get access to that hot fire beat that is Killabrimbor's ball bustin beat from his rap without the lyrics!😂
But fr, this was absolutely outstanding, there's only one thing left now...
You and Brett HAVE to do a Collab at some point, doesn't matter what on, now THAT'S something that if I had a job I'd willingly PAY to see!
9:52 That is how an Olog sounds when speaking?
I Really Liked this
Glad to hear some of it held up despite SoW’s best efforts
they missed an opportunity to make it a 3 way battle of talion vs bright lord and dark lord even if talion ends up a wraith at the end, we could've had blue vs red vs green, seen how uruks/ogres branded under calli react to talion without him
WOW! I thought you had given up on this series. But I was glad I was proven wrong.
And I preferred your series over ToG.
To each their own.
And nah I never gave up, but that message was always in updates nobody saw cos, well, not SoW lol
THIS IS THE MOMENT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
Then I’m sorry. Cos there’s no way this can live up
@@EditEdward im sure you did fantastcly!
Edit: in like not even a quorter in the video and alredy loving It!
@@EditEdward With respect mate, bullshit. Your content's fantastic and if this video's anything like your previous ones, it will easily meet our expectations.
Honestly, with all this bullshit coming at you, I admire your resiliency against spoilers.
Cheers, England Man! May the pastures be greener because good god you burned, poisoned, frozen, and undeath-ed it all with those burst attacks.
So it's over hey? This was a fun journey, even if the finale of the game put you into a weird position.
Thank You, Leonardo
@@EditEdward And thank you for the content
I'm mad for still being here?
No lies detected.
I'd say it paid off in the end though. Bad story and all you somehow made it work.
Thank you Roach
Now i merely wish to see what will your passion make next. Or is it all twitch for all good youtubers nowadays?
I mean YT is very much on fire at the mo - so from behind the curtain it's more about diversifying online presence. But yeah with SoW done I wanna take some time (and find some space in IRL) to figure what I really wanna do next with content.
@@EditEdward doesnt have to be youtube focused - i just cant watch twitch x3 vods help!
VoDs are on the way. At the mo they’re stalled by me having to real-time watch each one back for errors. Which as you can expect finding a few uninterrupted 2-3 hour spans a week between IRL life, socials and content is thin on the ground.
Been waiting for this
Then I’m sorry, as there’s no way it can live up
oh boi, sure has been a ride that's for sure, I'll admit I only initially found this series while I was looking for SOW videos of people like sethorven (didn't know TOG was a thing back when I found this pretty sure), and after a while of watching your videos I kinda just... fell off from watching your videos? (alongside seth and TOG himself, probably didn't help that the videos kinda just went adios from my notifications at some point) Hadn't even realised you had changed your name until I decided to try and find this series again, straight up went something along the words of "where the fuck did OEM go", I'll admit, I don't mind the style change, but it still was surprising, still though, this was INEVITABLY going to end, every story has its end after all
oh and don't worry, there indeed WAS a sequel hook, in the fucking almost completely non-canon DLC (I think, and honest to god HOPE, its non-canon anyways), unfortunately we ain't gonna get a follow up of that because instead we get a golum game, and until (and if) we get a announcement trailer on that sequel, we're straight up gonna have no info on what's happening next
also one last thing, those TOG Sauron edits were godamn cool
Oh yeah! I heard about this Gollum game. Seems they’re really scraping now