The putter sensors barely work, and if you happen to swap putters and don’t have one paired, you can’t use the system at all! And the Superstroke grip’s require a special $30 sensor. Pretty significant scam really
Best Across review ever posted on UA-cam. No BS, just the facts and an honest review. Thank you and keep up the good work. I’ll definitely be a subscriber.
Originally enjoyed the Arccos, but it looks like they have stopped supporting my older perfectly good Android phone, so it no longer works. $300.00 (can), now junk. Can't justify up grading my phone, so I'll be looking for another product.
I recently bought the Arccos caddie with the link. The very first time I tried to put the link on my waistband, the plastic clip broke. So, unless I wanted to carry my phone in my pocket, I was unable to use it. I wrote to Arches support about the link and have yet to receive a response. I'll give them a week and then will return it for a refund.
I have had a couple of buddies experience the same thing. Quite surprising for such an expensive device. I have always just kept my phone in my pocket. Although with some of the Apple Watch updates I have liked that as well. Cheers!
Too much of a pain in the ass for me. Thanks for the honest review. I think I'll pass until technology catches up some more to make this much easier. Any app that takes away from golf is a no go for me. I play to enjoy the game...and not worry about if an app tracked my shot correctly.
I just got it and used it for the first time last week. yeah, it was a little expensive but I manage to blow a lot more doing other things. I understand the complaints but in honesty, none of the bad/ugly is much of issue, at least for me. I just want the data and for that, it's going to shine.
This was well done. I find myself comparing notes and updating my Arccos with Garmin S62 watch analysis. Lots of data but little constructive information on what to do with the data to improve your game. Stating that I need to work on my approach shots within 150 yds falls within the "no duh" category. Need more than that. Honestly, I'm finding the Garmin S62 watch and Garmin golf app and website to be more than enough. Plus there's no annual subscription expectation.
There isn’t a perfect gps tracking system, but Arccos works for me. I got the Smart Grips and P3 putter sensor which eliminates the Bad and Ugly. I tried the Caddie Link but it drained my iPhone 12 Pro battery faster than without it. My Apple Watch 7 series battery does a nice job with shot detection and lasts throughout 18 holes. The Bad is the annual subscription model unless Arccos improves data collection and add-on features. I will re-evaluate when my sensors die or grips need to be replaced.
I have been considering upgrading to a newer Apple Watch (mines a series 3) but it would mean also buying the better half one as well. Haha, thanks for the input, cheers!
I want to say about 2-3 shots and then it just continues to average out as you use the club more and more. Once you have a data set you can also disregard obvious poor shots that may be included. Cheers!
Seems like it will take 4ever to play around of golf messing around it. Then worrying about my battery life of my iPhone. I have an Apple Watch but now what do I do with my Garmen!?! Throw it away? I’m getting anxiety just thinking about how to work this in my game and I haven’t even decided if I’m buying it yet!!!
Haha, that is kind of exactly the point of why I wanted to make this video. Honestly, I do enjoy it but it did take me a few rounds to understand how it all works for ME. Overall its not too scary, hope the review helped. Cheers!
I have used these for 2 years. They are pretty consistent if your phone is in your left pocket (assuming you are a righty) and you take the club you are hitting (only) out of your bag. Occasionally missed shots but not many. Putts barely ever captured right - i touch that up at the end of each hole or use my card at the end of the round to fix. Stroke distance info is very cool.
Really good video! Honest appraisal of the ARCCOS system. I just got free sensors and am looking forward to seeing how I can use the data. Thanks for the no BS info.
Right on. UX on the app blows. I already lost the sensor I TRIED to put on the putter.. because it doesn't fit.. It blows. I had the Link and it blows too. Started recording a bunch of shots I never took... and because the UX on the app blows, you can't neatly remove and add shots.
There’s definitely a learning curve to everything involved with Arccos. It’s not as “automatic” as they advertise for sure. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
Got arccos after buying new ping i525 irons and it has worked great. I got the sensors and the caddie link which works great. I have had no issues with it picking up shots and I got the perfect reading. I check it when I get back into the cart but I am someone that enjoys tracking my info. I do it real time. I agree with you I didn’t get the green sensor I got the smoke sensor.
Great to hear! The tracking consistency has definitely improved since I made this first video. I think the main point I was trying to make and is still true is that it is not just "automatic" you have to take time and make sure the data is correct. Cheers!
So funny, my home course is Ashton Hills. I pass Cherokee Run everyday M-Th for work. I said to myself, "that course looks like Cherokee Run" - Spot on! Great Videos! Cheers!🍻
Great review. You answered all the questions that I had on Arccos. It was driving me crazy that I could not get actual info on what the thing really does & does not do! From your video, I learned it is not for me. What I really want is a shot analyzer. I want to see where my hands are through my swing. Arccos is just a shot detector paired with a GPS phone app that provides all the mapping functions. The sensors really do nothing critical. You could do the same thing by just walking to your ball and tapping your phone to tell the app where the ball went.
Haha, I’m literally writing the script for a “one-year later” update right now. I really appreciate the comment and feedback. Hit them well and cheers! 🍻
I'm only one round in so far, but it worked perfectly for me. I got the sensors free through a coupon code, so didn't mind paying for the caddielink. I disagree with most of your "the ugly" section. We're all using devices all the time, so having my phone in my pocket isn't an issue. Most of the people I play with are using Golfshot, SwingU, Grint, or something else already on their phone or watch, so it's not really much different from that. Is it a great way to track your shots and better learn your distances, absolutely!
Thanks Christian! The phone in pocket thing I placed on the “edge of ugly”. Personally I don’t mind it, but I asked some people I would get paired up and saw on some message boards and it was a big no. A nice touch now is the watch only mode too which I cover in my 2023 update video also if you haven’t seen it! Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap I'll check it out. I don't use an apple watch and got the caddielink because I needed it in order to connect to a bluetooth speaker and track. I have heard that it drains the watch battery quickly.
Hear me out, is Arccos responsible for 5.87 deducted from your score or is it the fact you got a shiny new toy and play more? I would bet its because youre playing more and becoming more consistent vs it being the app and their technology.
Yeah, totally fair point. Playing more, learning the courses, etc. I still use the app and enjoy it. I think it does help a lot with course management.
I played my first round yesterday with Arccos. It worked pretty well but the first drive said 181 and it was 240. One drive was 295 and it said 395 (I wish) and my Cobra putter missed 17 putts for some reason. I have the link on my belt and it might have been covered by my shirt sneaking out, I'm not sure. I'll put it on my left pocket and see what happens tomorrow.
Awesome, like I mention in the video... its a cool program... you just have to figure out how it works for "you". I just don't worry about the stats, etc. at all DURING the round and just edit them later. Cheers!
Good perspective. I’m just getting back into golf and had this added to my clubs, guess they come on the G425s I got fitted for. I’m looking forward to my experience with the system.
The sensors use light (so when you take them out of your bag) combined with the sound of a hit (via your phone) to determine what club and when you strike the ball (just fyi)
Not sure your “bads” are bads…if you are truly looking to get better, the extra data is very useful. I give it to my golf coach so he can see what I’m doing on the course and we have a discussion point. As for hands free, I have very few issues with it. Yes, it sometimes misses a shot, etc, and you need to correct it in your post round review, but before Arccos, I was writing notes on my score card and going over each shot after the round…So, correcting a few errant/misreads afterwards is actually very helpful. Battery life with an iPhone used to be a big deal, but the newer iPhones have no battery issues (I use the iPhone Ultra). I can play 3 rounds before my battery dies…They sell the smoke sensors now that are blacked out if you prefer those…so that’s not an issue…For putting, I’ve been using Arccos for about 6 years now, so my putting routine always starts with me going to the flag (to remove it in the old days) and pacing off the putt. So, it’s real easy to mark the flag. So, if you want something that you just use each round to get distances, just get a laser range finder with GPS built in. Having sensors in your clubs to track data is so you can actually review it, learn from it, work on your weaknesses, and get better…which requires a lot of work in this game (or any game).
Thanks for the comment. I still use Arccos, enjoy it for what it does, and would generally recommend it. Some of the updates (I’m still waiting for the official handicap update) have been great. Smoke sensors for existing members is a silly cash grab it should have always been an option. Still think most of the critiques hold up for a new person that may be considering the tool. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap Absolutely agree not recommended for someone just starting out. Use something like Golf Logix which is much more basic and just gives you general data each round as you input it. I have many friends who use some of the more advance apps that require you to sit down after each round and input each shot individually…PITA…so, Arccos is much easier than that…The handicap aspect is long overdue…that should have been with it from the get go…agree also on the smoke sensors. In general, not a fan of the sensors. Which they weren’t as big…easy to think it’s part of the club and it adds another 3/8 to the end…also each weighs 9g, so throws off the swing weight of the club as well for those who are super anal about that stuff…
Agreed doesn’t look too bad with the Superstrokes. They do need to figure out regular or pistol grip adapters though. I still just leave mine totally off. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
Generally if you purchase any newer Cobra, Ping, or Taylormade club (or just find a serial number for one) they run specials for free sensors. Don’t hold me to it, but you know… go browse the PGA store… photographic memory some digits… I’ve said too much… Hope the video helped and cheers!!
Unfortunately no, it’s only application is on-course. The sensors basically log your previous shot, club, distance, location, etc. when you hit your NEXT shot.
Great review. I had Arccos with my then new Cobra F9s. I didn't like the idea of the phone since my pants don't have pockets that fit a phone. And at the time the belt thing was always out of stock. Also I didn't like the Arccos grips. I like Golf Pride CP2 Pros. I have Shot Scope V3: same data gathering, same analysis, and it comes with a watch. I paid $219 for it. No subscription. Is it perfect? No. But it gets the job done. And the sensors aren't ugly. In any case, I think the club distances in both Arccos and Shot Scope are a joke. Carry distance is what's important. If you need to carry 140 yds. you won't go by the club distances in your program. You'll go by the carry distance you got from (GC Quad, Trackman, or Top Tracer).
Agreed and honestly I use it more now as just a “range finder” / course planner. I still play mainly my carry distances that I see on the simulator during practice. Cheers!
Excellent review, enough to make me a subscriber: With that acknowledged I have a correspondingly over long set of comments, My Arccos background. First set purchased in 2017, currently with 176 rounds recorded. The (my) big ugly - capture ratio around 90%, that's a couple of completely missed shots per 18 holes. Thru all methods of attempting to improve: phone, link and Apple Watch 7 I have been unable to have a round catching every shot and it's worse with putts. Regards data capture - I am 100% happy. My belief is the interpretation is for a coach to tell you HOW to improve, my instructor will base the "next" lesson based on the Arccos data I send him. Skipping to the overwhelming - take the first round as a familiarization round. Use UA-cam videos, that helped me a lot. Finally, realize ahead of time it will take a few rounds to gain the full value of the device. Battery life - I have never had a battery problem with either link, watch or phone. Only time I played 36 holes I still had battery left in all devices. Caveat, of sorts, I always made sure I had fully charged batteries prior to the round. Sensor failure: BEWARE, if only one sensor fails you are totally without Arccos of any sorts until you replace the failed sensor. Good news is Arccos replaced sensor in about ten days free of charge. I also had a Link Connect failure after about a year and a half - out of warranty - so I just bought a new one. Cost: Relative, sure it can cost as much as a new driver. Still less expensive than any launch monitor and provides a lot of helpful analysis, especially if you are taking lessons and you and your coach can work in real time fixing current issues. I have spent around $350 since 2017, pretty good if amortized. I bought before the subscription requirement, whew. Looks: I wish there was a method to attach a photo in comments. I used black heat shrink tubing (with adhesive), length of 3/4 inch, which hides the sensor completely and more importantly keeps the risky screw of the sensor getting loose and from falling out of the end of the club. I have a photo of both an iron and putter showing what I mean if you have a way for me to get it to you. Fairways and greens
Awesome, thanks for all the insights. Honestly I do like Arccos a lot. It has definitely helped me understand my game better, with data, so when I finish I round I actually know the areas that "may" have cost me some strokes instead of historically me just guessing. Feel free to send those pics to bbbgolf.productionsATgmail, would love to see the set up. Cheers!
I have experienced out of date satellite imagery once on a course that had recently been renovated. I use my phone in the left pocket and never feel it there (iPhone 13Pro). It caught 100% of shots on every round I’ve played with it (5 at this time). I’m not sure I understand what people mean when they say hey don’t know how to use the info it gives you. I mean, cmon if it says you’re losing most strokes on approaching shots then go get better at approaching shots. How? Well you’re already on UA-cam, maybe search for that or show your coach the feedback. It’s a caddie not a coach ;) Most folks go to the range and don’t know what to practice. They hit their driver and a couple irons but not a lot more. The value in arccos for me was learning that while I don’t drive great, it’s not making a big impact on my game compared with approaching. It was reifying to see that the short game drills I’d been doing had me gaining strokes over a scratch player and that my putting could improve a little. Otherwise very solid review.
Thanks, I think my point was basically what you mention. It gives you the information, but not necessarily the answers. So the app in itself isn’t going to improve it, despite a nice “Arccos coach tip”. You have to take it somewhere else either in practice or an actual coach. Cheers!
It "provides" on course data for how you "play". So from there in theory you can identify trouble areas and perhaps improve. If you want swing / club data, that is not Arccos. Going to have to jump on a launch monitor that has the ability to read those metrics. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
I'd watch that all Arccos caddie recommendations video for sure, just got my free sensors and the link for 50% off. Also have a super stroke grip on my putter and there's a specific adapter to fit those so should be pretty clean
The putter sensors barely work, and if you happen to swap putters and don’t have one paired, you can’t use the system at all! And the Superstroke grip’s require a special $30 sensor. Pretty significant scam really
And the sensor run out of batteries in 2 years then you have to throw them in the bin and buy a new set of sensors
Haven't had that happen YET, but there will be a real decision to be made at that point. Cheers!
Best Across review ever posted on UA-cam. No BS, just the facts and an honest review. Thank you and keep up the good work. I’ll definitely be a subscriber.
Thanks Jerry! Really appreciate the support. Cheers!
Originally enjoyed the Arccos, but it looks like they have stopped supporting my older perfectly good Android phone, so it no longer works. $300.00 (can), now junk. Can't justify up grading my phone, so I'll be looking for another product.
Awesome point, never considered how it could phase out on “older” devices. Thanks Dean!
I recently bought the Arccos caddie with the link. The very first time I tried to put the link on my waistband, the plastic clip broke. So, unless I wanted to carry my phone in my pocket, I was unable to use it. I wrote to Arches support about the link and have yet to receive a response. I'll give them a week and then will return it for a refund.
I have had a couple of buddies experience the same thing. Quite surprising for such an expensive device. I have always just kept my phone in my pocket. Although with some of the Apple Watch updates I have liked that as well. Cheers!
I hope everyone who is considering the Arccos system watches this video,
Thanks James! Cheers!
Too much of a pain in the ass for me. Thanks for the honest review. I think I'll pass until technology catches up some more to make this much easier. Any app that takes away from golf is a no go for me. I play to enjoy the game...and not worry about if an app tracked my shot correctly.
💯 percent agree. Thanks for the input and comment. Cheers!
Get a Scotty Cameron putter and drain those 10’ puts with ease
I’m a Bettinardi fan. Left Scotty a few years ago. Cheers!
GHIN app is free for your handicap.
Thanks, I'll check it out! Cheers!
I just got it and used it for the first time last week. yeah, it was a little expensive but I manage to blow a lot more doing other things. I understand the complaints but in honesty, none of the bad/ugly is much of issue, at least for me. I just want the data and for that, it's going to shine.
Yeah, I just dumped about 3 years of Arccos on something real silly... fair point. Haha! Cheers!
This was well done. I find myself comparing notes and updating my Arccos with Garmin S62 watch analysis. Lots of data but little constructive information on what to do with the data to improve your game. Stating that I need to work on my approach shots within 150 yds falls within the "no duh" category. Need more than that. Honestly, I'm finding the Garmin S62 watch and Garmin golf app and website to be more than enough. Plus there's no annual subscription expectation.
That's a good point, I'll definitely have a decision to make come renewal time. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
There isn’t a perfect gps tracking system, but Arccos works for me. I got the Smart Grips and P3 putter sensor which eliminates the Bad and Ugly. I tried the Caddie Link but it drained my iPhone 12 Pro battery faster than without it. My Apple Watch 7 series battery does a nice job with shot detection and lasts throughout 18 holes. The Bad is the annual subscription model unless Arccos improves data collection and add-on features. I will re-evaluate when my sensors die or grips need to be replaced.
I have been considering upgrading to a newer Apple Watch (mines a series 3) but it would mean also buying the better half one as well. Haha, thanks for the input, cheers!
How long does it take to register club distances
I want to say about 2-3 shots and then it just continues to average out as you use the club more and more. Once you have a data set you can also disregard obvious poor shots that may be included. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap thank you so much
Seems like it will take 4ever to play around of golf messing around it. Then worrying about my battery life of my iPhone. I have an Apple Watch but now what do I do with my Garmen!?! Throw it away? I’m getting anxiety just thinking about how to work this in my game and I haven’t even decided if I’m buying it yet!!!
Haha, that is kind of exactly the point of why I wanted to make this video. Honestly, I do enjoy it but it did take me a few rounds to understand how it all works for ME. Overall its not too scary, hope the review helped. Cheers!
I have used these for 2 years. They are pretty consistent if your phone is in your left pocket (assuming you are a righty) and you take the club you are hitting (only) out of your bag. Occasionally missed shots but not many. Putts barely ever captured right - i touch that up at the end of each hole or use my card at the end of the round to fix. Stroke distance info is very cool.
excellent video
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Really good video! Honest appraisal of the ARCCOS system. I just got free sensors and am looking forward to seeing how I can use the data. Thanks for the no BS info.
Thanks, I’m still waiting for them to add an aiming fluid statistic, cheers!
Right on. UX on the app blows. I already lost the sensor I TRIED to put on the putter.. because it doesn't fit.. It blows. I had the Link and it blows too. Started recording a bunch of shots I never took... and because the UX on the app blows, you can't neatly remove and add shots.
There’s definitely a learning curve to everything involved with Arccos. It’s not as “automatic” as they advertise for sure. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
Is it OK if I watch after I buy?
Haha yes of course. Thanks for the comment. I have a 2023 update on the channel as well if you are interested. Cheers!
@BBBGolf lol, I was being silly. Great video mate.
Got arccos after buying new ping i525 irons and it has worked great. I got the sensors and the caddie link which works great. I have had no issues with it picking up shots and I got the perfect reading. I check it when I get back into the cart but I am someone that enjoys tracking my info. I do it real time. I agree with you I didn’t get the green sensor I got the smoke sensor.
Great to hear! The tracking consistency has definitely improved since I made this first video. I think the main point I was trying to make and is still true is that it is not just "automatic" you have to take time and make sure the data is correct. Cheers!
So funny, my home course is Ashton Hills. I pass Cherokee Run everyday M-Th for work. I said to myself, "that course looks like Cherokee Run" - Spot on! Great Videos! Cheers!🍻
I played Ashton Hills on the tail end of a boys weekend down at Lake Jackson. I was in no condition to actually be golfing. Good times… cheers!
Great review. You answered all the questions that I had on Arccos. It was driving me crazy that I could not get actual info on what the thing really does & does not do! From your video, I learned it is not for me. What I really want is a shot analyzer. I want to see where my hands are through my swing. Arccos is just a shot detector paired with a GPS phone app that provides all the mapping functions. The sensors really do nothing critical. You could do the same thing by just walking to your ball and tapping your phone to tell the app where the ball went.
Haha, I’m literally writing the script for a “one-year later” update right now. I really appreciate the comment and feedback. Hit them well and cheers! 🍻
I'm only one round in so far, but it worked perfectly for me. I got the sensors free through a coupon code, so didn't mind paying for the caddielink. I disagree with most of your "the ugly" section. We're all using devices all the time, so having my phone in my pocket isn't an issue. Most of the people I play with are using Golfshot, SwingU, Grint, or something else already on their phone or watch, so it's not really much different from that. Is it a great way to track your shots and better learn your distances, absolutely!
Thanks Christian! The phone in pocket thing I placed on the “edge of ugly”. Personally I don’t mind it, but I asked some people I would get paired up and saw on some message boards and it was a big no. A nice touch now is the watch only mode too which I cover in my 2023 update video also if you haven’t seen it! Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap I'll check it out. I don't use an apple watch and got the caddielink because I needed it in order to connect to a bluetooth speaker and track. I have heard that it drains the watch battery quickly.
Thanks for this review. I don’t see what it offers that an app (golfshot, the grint, etc.) doesn’t.
I enjoy using it, but it’s not game changer compared to some of the other apps. Cheers!
This is fucking gold. Keep it up
Yo! Appreciate it… these comments do mean a lot. Cheers!
Hear me out, is Arccos responsible for 5.87 deducted from your score or is it the fact you got a shiny new toy and play more? I would bet its because youre playing more and becoming more consistent vs it being the app and their technology.
Yeah, totally fair point. Playing more, learning the courses, etc. I still use the app and enjoy it. I think it does help a lot with course management.
@@GolfOnTap 100% I think the app is great but I feel like its a stretch when they advertise it like that.
Great review! The putter sensor was the deal breaker for me! Thank you.
Glad I could help! Cheers!
I played my first round yesterday with Arccos. It worked pretty well but the first drive said 181 and it was 240. One drive was 295 and it said 395 (I wish) and my Cobra putter missed 17 putts for some reason. I have the link on my belt and it might have been covered by my shirt sneaking out, I'm not sure. I'll put it on my left pocket and see what happens tomorrow.
Awesome, like I mention in the video... its a cool program... you just have to figure out how it works for "you". I just don't worry about the stats, etc. at all DURING the round and just edit them later. Cheers!
GOOD OVERVIEW, STRAIGHT SHOOTER, BEST TO YOU FROM AUSTRALIA
Glad to help, Dan. Cheers mate (I think that’s correct slang, haha.) 🍻
Good perspective. I’m just getting back into golf and had this added to my clubs, guess they come on the G425s I got fitted for. I’m looking forward to my experience with the system.
Thanks dude. Enjoy golf (if possible)… then use the system to get better. Cheers!!
The sensors use light (so when you take them out of your bag) combined with the sound of a hit (via your phone) to determine what club and when you strike the ball (just fyi)
Ah, I figured it had something to do with the vibration / sound of hitting a ball. Cool to know though.. thanks! Cheers!
Thanks for the video.
Not sure your “bads” are bads…if you are truly looking to get better, the extra data is very useful. I give it to my golf coach so he can see what I’m doing on the course and we have a discussion point. As for hands free, I have very few issues with it. Yes, it sometimes misses a shot, etc, and you need to correct it in your post round review, but before Arccos, I was writing notes on my score card and going over each shot after the round…So, correcting a few errant/misreads afterwards is actually very helpful. Battery life with an iPhone used to be a big deal, but the newer iPhones have no battery issues (I use the iPhone Ultra). I can play 3 rounds before my battery dies…They sell the smoke sensors now that are blacked out if you prefer those…so that’s not an issue…For putting, I’ve been using Arccos for about 6 years now, so my putting routine always starts with me going to the flag (to remove it in the old days) and pacing off the putt. So, it’s real easy to mark the flag. So, if you want something that you just use each round to get distances, just get a laser range finder with GPS built in. Having sensors in your clubs to track data is so you can actually review it, learn from it, work on your weaknesses, and get better…which requires a lot of work in this game (or any game).
Thanks for the comment. I still use Arccos, enjoy it for what it does, and would generally recommend it. Some of the updates (I’m still waiting for the official handicap update) have been great. Smoke sensors for existing members is a silly cash grab it should have always been an option. Still think most of the critiques hold up for a new person that may be considering the tool. Cheers!
@@GolfOnTap Absolutely agree not recommended for someone just starting out. Use something like Golf Logix which is much more basic and just gives you general data each round as you input it. I have many friends who use some of the more advance apps that require you to sit down after each round and input each shot individually…PITA…so, Arccos is much easier than that…The handicap aspect is long overdue…that should have been with it from the get go…agree also on the smoke sensors. In general, not a fan of the sensors. Which they weren’t as big…easy to think it’s part of the club and it adds another 3/8 to the end…also each weighs 9g, so throws off the swing weight of the club as well for those who are super anal about that stuff…
I got the adapter to install the sensor on a super stroke putter grip…works fine and and very clean look
Agreed doesn’t look too bad with the Superstrokes. They do need to figure out regular or pistol grip adapters though. I still just leave mine totally off. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
great insightful review, thanks!
Great video. Thank you. How do you get the sensors for free? Thanks again.
Generally if you purchase any newer Cobra, Ping, or Taylormade club (or just find a serial number for one) they run specials for free sensors. Don’t hold me to it, but you know… go browse the PGA store… photographic memory some digits… I’ve said too much… Hope the video helped and cheers!!
Great review. I’ve been considering getting Arccos.
Thanks dude! Really appreciate it, cheers!
This was very informative, thank you
Thanks for the comment! Cheers!
What generation are your sensors?
Generation 2. They just released a 3rd although the club sensors themselves do not seem much different outside of the putter sensor.
i love final fantasy as well
Haha, I was wondering if anyone would notice my silly jokes. Still play then when I can, FFXI has always had its hooks in me.
@@GolfOnTap 7 is my favorite 6 was alot of fun 10 is my second favorite I really liked 15 alot as well
Can I use this at the driving range?
Unfortunately no, it’s only application is on-course. The sensors basically log your previous shot, club, distance, location, etc. when you hit your NEXT shot.
Damn ok thanks
Great review cheers
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Great review
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Great review. I had Arccos with my then new Cobra F9s. I didn't like the idea of the phone since my pants don't have pockets that fit a phone. And at the time the belt thing was always out of stock. Also I didn't like the Arccos grips. I like Golf Pride CP2 Pros. I have Shot Scope V3: same data gathering, same analysis, and it comes with a watch. I paid $219 for it. No subscription. Is it perfect? No. But it gets the job done. And the sensors aren't ugly. In any case, I think the club distances in both Arccos and Shot Scope are a joke. Carry distance is what's important. If you need to carry 140 yds. you won't go by the club distances in your program. You'll go by the carry distance you got from (GC Quad, Trackman, or Top Tracer).
Agreed and honestly I use it more now as just a “range finder” / course planner. I still play mainly my carry distances that I see on the simulator during practice. Cheers!
Excellent review, enough to make me a subscriber: With that acknowledged I have a correspondingly over long set of comments,
My Arccos background. First set purchased in 2017, currently with 176 rounds recorded.
The (my) big ugly - capture ratio around 90%, that's a couple of completely missed shots per 18 holes. Thru all methods of attempting to improve: phone, link and Apple Watch 7 I have been unable to have a round catching every shot and it's worse with putts.
Regards data capture - I am 100% happy. My belief is the interpretation is for a coach to tell you HOW to improve, my instructor will base the "next" lesson based on the Arccos data I send him. Skipping to the overwhelming - take the first round as a familiarization round. Use UA-cam videos, that helped me a lot. Finally, realize ahead of time it will take a few rounds to gain the full value of the device.
Battery life - I have never had a battery problem with either link, watch or phone. Only time I played 36 holes I still had battery left in all devices. Caveat, of sorts, I always made sure I had fully charged batteries prior to the round.
Sensor failure: BEWARE, if only one sensor fails you are totally without Arccos of any sorts until you replace the failed sensor. Good news is Arccos replaced sensor in about ten days free of charge. I also had a Link Connect failure after about a year and a half - out of warranty - so I just bought a new one.
Cost: Relative, sure it can cost as much as a new driver. Still less expensive than any launch monitor and provides a lot of helpful analysis, especially if you are taking lessons and you and your coach can work in real time fixing current issues. I have spent around $350 since 2017, pretty good if amortized. I bought before the subscription requirement, whew.
Looks: I wish there was a method to attach a photo in comments. I used black heat shrink tubing (with adhesive), length of 3/4 inch, which hides the sensor completely and more importantly keeps the risky screw of the sensor getting loose and from falling out of the end of the club. I have a photo of both an iron and putter showing what I mean if you have a way for me to get it to you.
Fairways and greens
Awesome, thanks for all the insights. Honestly I do like Arccos a lot. It has definitely helped me understand my game better, with data, so when I finish I round I actually know the areas that "may" have cost me some strokes instead of historically me just guessing. Feel free to send those pics to bbbgolf.productionsATgmail, would love to see the set up. Cheers!
I have experienced out of date satellite imagery once on a course that had recently been renovated.
I use my phone in the left pocket and never feel it there (iPhone 13Pro). It caught 100% of shots on every round I’ve played with it (5 at this time).
I’m not sure I understand what people mean when they say hey don’t know how to use the info it gives you. I mean, cmon if it says you’re losing most strokes on approaching shots then go get better at approaching shots. How? Well you’re already on UA-cam, maybe search for that or show your coach the feedback. It’s a caddie not a coach ;)
Most folks go to the range and don’t know what to practice. They hit their driver and a couple irons but not a lot more. The value in arccos for me was learning that while I don’t drive great, it’s not making a big impact on my game compared with approaching. It was reifying to see that the short game drills I’d been doing had me gaining strokes over a scratch player and that my putting could improve a little.
Otherwise very solid review.
Thanks, I think my point was basically what you mention. It gives you the information, but not necessarily the answers. So the app in itself isn’t going to improve it, despite a nice “Arccos coach tip”. You have to take it somewhere else either in practice or an actual coach. Cheers!
It seems pointless if it doesn't provide swing metrics.
It "provides" on course data for how you "play". So from there in theory you can identify trouble areas and perhaps improve. If you want swing / club data, that is not Arccos. Going to have to jump on a launch monitor that has the ability to read those metrics. Thanks for the comment, cheers!
How long i spent looking for a legit review... Nice job man, will def try the free kit!
Awesome! Thanks for the comment, cheers!
I'd watch that all Arccos caddie recommendations video for sure, just got my free sensors and the link for 50% off. Also have a super stroke grip on my putter and there's a specific adapter to fit those so should be pretty clean
Planning a few rounds soon so I’ll probably give it a go! I do like using Arccos. Hope the video helped! Cheers!