Cognitive Function Pairings | CPT Explained
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Within CPT the cognitive functions do not operate as seperate processing units, but rather in complimentary pairs made up of a codec and lens of the same orientation.
Part I: • The Cognitive Function...
This episode explores the eight different codec-lens duos, and paves the way towards presenting how the nature of these pairings is dependent upon their respective attitude in the next episode.
Many thanks to Kiara Kerrick for the subtitles!
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:53 - Se-Te
05:10 - Te-Se
05:55 - Se-Fe
06:38 - Fe-Se
07:39 - Ne-Te
08:47 - Te-Ne
09:51 - Ne-Fe
10:39 - Fe-Ne
11:38 - Si-Ti
12:47 - Ti-Si
14:00 - Si-Fi
14:19 - Fi-Si
14:53 - Ni-Ti
15:41 - Ti-Ni
16:36 - Ni-Fi
17:11 - Fi-Ni
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KEY
Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!
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This is very interesting. It would be nice if you could also give a few examples of each cognitive function pairing. I'm trying to relate the theory to things I observed in the real world. For example you might say "Have you ever been in this X situation and you were doing this Y thing? Well in that moment, you were using cognitive function pairing A-B". Perhaps you can add a new video to this series with examples like that. Would be really awesome and bring lots of clarity to how to correctly interpret the theoretical concepts!
I am a retired physician- I suspect an INTJ which served me well. However, during either surgery or an emergency I always noticed that no matter how tired I was or how sick I might have felt all internal sensation of fatigue and illness would disappear as would time. Several hours could pass and seem like nothing. I think the more I understand what you are teaching the more that now makes sense. Thank you. I appreciate your hard work and preparation. You bring clarity where others only seem to muddy the water.
I'm a beginning medical student - I suspect INTJ... thank you for sharing your experience! Though I have not yet had the "pleasure" of performing surgery or dealing with such emergencies as you have, I have had the same sort of lack of sensation, fatigue, and pain, when put in "stressful" situations. I sometimes joke that the most stressful situations, are the most enjoyable because of the overwhelming lack of physical internal sensation and peace of mind (of a type which does not happen even when I am "relaxing"), which can than lead me to keep at a task for hours on end whitout realizing it. No one else I know has had similar experiences. If you would be willing to perhaps share more about your experiences as a surgeon (I surmise), I would be incredibly grateful. You have said being an INTJ served you well as a physician, I can broadly see why but would love to read your insights. The stereotype is often not associated with medicine though as you have said these videos allow for a much deeper, clearer and nuanced understanding of personality theory. Regardless, I hope you have a nice day.
You just took the negative stereotype of loops and flipped them into something that’s actually pretty useful
This was really good!
Honestly, all of your videos feel like something I need to watch 10 times or more and take a notebook full of notes. I mean that in a good way, lol.
But yes, thank you for breaking this down and taking time to do all this ^^
Thanks so much! Haha, it's a lot to take in for sure!
My pleasure, I'm looking forward to having a playlist of these videos to refer people to :)
Very true. Either the videos are very dense with information or I'm very dense in my ability to comprehend. The more I watch, the easier they get as I familiarize myself with the general concept and the vocabulary, but it requires very deep focus.
Agree 😊 I love the clarity of your explanations, especially combined with the pauses you employ between concepts. It is an unconventional yet highly effective speaking style. Soothing and challenging at the same time; a great way to convey loads of info. Thank you! 😊
My head hurts studying this video 😂. I'm taking notes as I paused a lot during the video. My final intake is simple as I read through the notes again.
1. Perceiving functions would be perceiving, collecting, and connecting information (Ne, Se, Ni, Si)
2. Judging functions would be judging, organizing, and putting orders into the perceived information (Te, Ti, Fe, Fi)
Whatever pairings there are in the list, as long as you understand all the cognitive functions, the two statements above, and the position of the cognitive functions in the pairing (pilot or co-pilot), it'll be okay.
Not easy to follow, but fascinating and rewarding.
I'm enjoying so much learning about all these functions and your descriptions are so clarifying, Harry. I've been processing all this information like a manic for the past 2 days. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
This is so awesome to hear!
im taking notes so i can understand it better. I would never want to loss this information.
Me neither!
I had to go back and watch Part 1 of this, just as a memory refresher, but I really feel that this is helping me to understand and identify all the types. 🙂
Awesome! By the end of the year I'm hoping to have a complete CPT Explained playlist :)
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I look forward to it! I remember you mentioned in your last video that it had been a year since you created the channel - it's been amazing to see how much it's grown and evolved. Well done you! :-D
@@That_Awkward_Mum Thanks Gina, I'm chuffed to bits :D
Yeah; I finally understood we can go on 😆 actually I would be very interested in going deeper to your theory, so I’m waiting wait for the next videos. I am actually very interested what you have to say about the functions not in the „main stack” - how do they operate etc. To me these are one of the most inspiring videos on UA-cam on the subject. Very tasty piece of thoughts to chew 😊
Happy to provide said thoughts! :)
Very illuminating! I particularly adored the conveyor belt analogy. And also, equating Si to a microscope and Ni to a kaleidoscope!
I was curious about the tiny length of the Si-Fi part though. Did you think it's enough of an explanation, or do you want to revisit this sometime later? Cheers! Always a delight to learn from your videos!
Thank you! :)
Yes, you're right. At some point I'll dedicate a video to distinguishing between Ni-Fi and Si-Fi. In the meantime I recommend checking out my ISTJ vs INTJ comparison, in which I explore Si-Fi further!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Eager for that video, then! And thanks! :)
I tried looking at your way of explaining in this video in terms of your Ni-Ti (INFJ) type, and it feels as if I might be on the right track. ( :
That's a wonderful top you have on there!👌
It looks like it'd be very warm and fleecey. 🙂
Thanks Catherine - I like it too!!
Hi Catherine,
Curious, Do you think u used Se Te here in this comment or Te Se ? So in this case you are esfp or entj?
I’m inclined to believe that you used Te Se so u r entj perhaps
Being mainly acquainted with mbti lingo, this was a little confusing to me at first lol
But I like how you use words inherently associated with specific functions differently (eg using the word auxiliary to refer to the third function somebody’s function stack). It’s kind of like trying to understand somebody else’s introverted thinking lol
9:06 loved the clarification! As an Ne dominant, I'd perceive more than 120 degrees if I could.
I certainly seem to use 3 different pairings. NeFe, TiSi and FiNi. Then there's the problem solving mode where Si data is manipulated in a Ni modeling space using both Ti and Ne. That takes a lot of energy!
Don't forget SeTe! Haha, yes NiTi-SiTi is something of a 'hypercharged' state for the ENTP!
I have such a hard time understanding the Ni-Fi, Fi-Ni, Si-Fi, Fi-Si pairings
It soooo abstract
I just can’t imagine how it looks like in reality
Firstly it is internal. And you won’t be “seeing” it.
Take it that the dominant function is the focus and the auxiliary is the supporting
So if you’re focusing on Ni which is perceiving in nature and you supplement it with Fi. You’re setting values on internal abstract concepts.
As opposed to Fi Ni, your values are continually being rewired by abstract concepts u internally know
Try coming up with an explanation of Ti Si and Si Ti and their difference. This should help u more understand it, by application.
@@dustinhawkins7634 thank you 🙏🏼
Dear Harry! Your system is intricate, also well explained. However, there's still one particular part to it that I don't understand. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you started explaining function pairings in CPT Explained series without first explaining why they pair the way they do. So I'm kind of having a struggle grasping why and how two extroverted or introverted functions can pair. Since, if extroversion and introversion are pictured commonly as 'charges', therefore it's the opposites that should actually pair together because this is the way universe works; a fundamental rule, like how two poles of a magnet attract each other!
Now, I'm sure you have already thought of this and there's a subtle difference between these two examples that I'm missing and I would appreciate if you point it out so that those like me can understand what's going on cognitively.
Hi Arasch, many thanks!
First think of it like this - you have one internal world, and one external world; I do not find myself jumping between an Ni and Ti world but, rather, using these functions within the same world.
As such, the pairing of opposites actually applied to pairings - you have your internal world, which is opposed by your external world. A function that opposes another is not an auxiliary.
Secondly, if you Perceive a subject, you also form a Judgement. If I were simply using Ni, I would not be forming associations, as associations proceed the assignment of value :)
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Hey. Thanks for your explanation as I too was really thrown off by this.
I still don't really understand why and how this is better than the conventional mbti cognitive stacks though. Also wouldn't changing some of the functions totally change a person's typing in this version of mbti?
Eg. I have currently narrowed my type down to mainly using Ti and Ne (in the conventional system) which would either make me an ENTP or INTP. How would this work in your system? I'm so lost now...
Do you have a video or something where you go into this? If not, may I keenly request it?
Thank you.
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If I am getting this right
*Internal world of ideas/memories: requires that the two Introverted fxn work together creating some sort of monologue which guides you towards transmitting your internal ideas to the external world?
*External world of experience/actions: Requires the two extroverted fxn in the stack to exert already the already preformed goal of your internal world into the concrete reality?
Q1. Is that some sort of reason why introverts are more Introspective and know what they want but take longer to make it tangible while the extrovert shoot on sight but have to review why they took a certain action?
Example with INTJ
Since the convergent stack is Ni--Fi the INTJ will envision a type of goal/ reality which has to be peculiar/ individualistic to that person (meaning their goals have to always involve them in the picture)
And this goal can only be achieved in external reality by using the divergent stack of Se--Te (meaning their internal goal needs to be achieved by finding the most efficient method of a specific portion of external sensory environment) the thought is "how does doing this sensory activity relate to my goal and what is the trusted methods that other people have approached this and if possible how can I optimize it to provide the same results at a lower duration)
What do you think, am I making sense or I need to go reevaluate what I think I have grasped from watch and reading about cognitive functions?
Thank you for broadening our understanding.
I have a question:
when we are using one of these convergent pairs, is the oppositional pair shut off or out of conscious access, or can they kind of overlap, like using some degree of extraverted cognition and some introverted at the same time? For example, sometimes I think i am using extraverted intuition, while "observing" my internal values 🧐
I hope I could get my point across ...
Thanks again!
My pleasure! The pairs tend to operate in tandem, with consciousness fluctuating between the two extremes. As such, each pair experiences a high degree of subconsciousness :)
Did Jung, by "irrational", mean something like "non-rational", or was he suggesting that there was also some wild and uncontrollable aspect of sensing/intuition?
It's so weird to see you not wear plaid. Especially a bright shirt. Both look good! Just gives a different atmosphere.
Also I thought it was normal to miss time not just an Si-Ti thing 😅
Was thinking something similar!
Wait, oh, I wasn't paying attention
I have a funny question. Do a lot of INFJs come across sort of professorial or like you’re much wiser than your age? Because I’m pretty sure I’m INFP and I think I’m sure I’m older than you, but for some reason come across so young and innocent. It’s hard to hide, I can’t even try. I still get carded for beer and I’m in my 40’s. Very deep and wise from life experience, but I just don’t know how to emanate the “adult” vibe. I’m respectful and courteous and intelligent and kind, but just... I guess I have to accept my demeanor and nature. Do you have any cognitive function hypothesis why INFPs can appear much more sweet or innocent or younger in not a fake way, but in a cannot help it way? Love your videos
The INFP is in a constant state of evolution and personal re-evaluation, which can be construed as innocence and vulnerability. Most INFJs can't wait to anchor in their self-concept to begin theorising upon it :)
A suggestion: why not do a portrait of each of the types, like you've done for the ENFP and the ENTP? That's my favourite kind of video by you as well as the comparison videos. And perhaps also share a more personalised view instead of going at it in a purely systematic way. Just my opinion and suggestion though :) Love all your work!
Great idea, and I agree a more personalised presentation would be perfect for that format! Cheers :)
I like this idea very much
I’ve a question, what do you think about the existence of “loops” and “grips”?
A person is “looping” when they’re skipping the 2nd function in their stack and overusing their 1st and 3rd function. For example an ESFJ -> Fe-Ne.
A person is in a “grip” when they’re stressed and begin to overuse their 4th function.
I don’t think these concepts make sense, “loops” consist of either 2 introverted functions or 2 extroverted functions, but bc it’s not possible to only use introverted or only use extroverted functions the “loop” couldn’t exist on its own anyway. + your introverted functions within your stack are always connected and the same goes for your extroverted functions.
“Grips” seem stupid to me I think they exist bc of misunderstanding the actual functions.
Well however I’d like to hear your thoughts?
A person can be in an extremely introverted or extraverted state, but that is as far as loops go in my opinion - I have yet to see a single function pairing being relied upon.
I find the notion of a grip reductionistic in the sense of the exclusivity it applies to the oppositional function; we can be in the grip on any function depending on its relevance to our lives and defence mechanisms.
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory ah okay thank you for sharing your point of view!
For INTP
ESTJ, ENTJ, INTJ
ISTP, ISFJ, rest of Ns
ENTP, rest of Ss
Am i right?
With no examples, the retention of this knowledge will impossible. It feels like blunt math formulas (And I love math, mostly the history of mathematics and the philosophy of mathematics). You see in math we're presented with formulas that have refined for centuries and they seem like made by geniuses. But in reality the original formula was different and was refined with time to look this way.
I think the trick to explain this is examples, at least a few and we can let our imagination roam wild for the rest.
3:34 subtitle correction needed (extraverted intuition)
Curious. Have you seen Dave and Shan’s objective personality? If u have, Do u have any comments, is it accurate or vague or?
You can be safe or I would prefer an honest ones. Thanks 😁
It's a cult. They gatekeep by proclaiming to use the "scientific method", which is a husband and wife (of similar types) separately coming to the same conclusion. What is more biased than that? When asked the same question in their comment section it was promptly deleted. Ever wonder why the comment section is always eerily so supportive? 😂
According to my previous reading, in a type, which function of the pair is the "pilot" is determined by things (rules?) not yet covered in this group of videos.
Can you specify and restate the question? It was a little bit unclear....
@@ps3nd0ny59 Ok. What determines which function of a type is the pilot function? The convergent function?
@@red-baitingswine8816 oh...
the pilot, from my observation is the dominant or the second function..
the co-pilot of the first is the third,
the co-pilot of the second is the last or the fourth...
Are you acquainted with the Cognitive stacks of each type?
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I think so:
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My understanding is that the 4 letter type name and the following rules (imo not addressed by this UA-camr) determine the hierarchy of functions:
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1) For J types the evaluating (T and F) functions are extroverted, and the perceiving (S & N) functions are introverted, and vice versa for P types. (e.g. for INTP, Ti & Ne).
2) For extroverts, the extroverted function (in the 4 letter type) is the strongest function. For introverts, the introverted function. The remaining function of the type is next in the hierarchy. (e.g. order is Ti , Ne for INTP)
3) 3rd in the hierarchy is same type as 2nd, opposite in direction (Si for INTP) 4th is same type as first, opposite in direction (Fe for INTP).
4) (Using similar reasoning, for INTP, imho 5th thru 8th are Fi, Se, Ni, and Te (which exhausts all the possible functions).
5) Imo this is how we get the 1st and 3rd, and 2nd and 4th, as pairs of functions with the same direction (for INTP, Ti Si and Ne Fe).
6) Is this (1) correct, and (2) something like what you are referring to?
7) Seems like Harry assumes everyone already knows this and takes it as a point of departure, or ?
And I don't see this hierarchy as a literal description of how the mind works, but as a tentative conceptual structure with which to orient one's self re type ideas.
Why isnt there any introverted - extroverted parings, for example Se - Fi. Cant you make introverted values based on ekstroverted perseption?
And can you make a video comparing intj and intp.
Those would be the axes of the next video in this series!
Why do you look at the interaction between the extroverted codec and extroverted lens? How does the primary/dominate function’s interaction with secondary vs tertiary function differ? I’ve only recently discovered you and I suppose I’m processing this video through the lens of Objective Personality’s schema. Maybe I should not do this, but it’s difficult to ignore my last major reference point. When you speak of the relationship between these functions, for example Ne-Te, is it in reference to the traditional mbti ENFP? Objective personality speaks of the traditional tertiary function being the secondary function in half of all 16 types. I understand that you see function usage as fluid rather than in a static hierarchy. (I think they’d agree to at least some degree.) long story short, I guess I don’t understand the context of the relationships that you’re describing. I assume that you speak of the relationship of e.g. Ne-Te as part of a natural interaction that takes place in ENFPs as oppose to a double extroverted ENFP type. ??
In such systems functions are secondary and tertiary related to how much they are egoistically 'valued' within consciousness - in this sense it will certainly be 50/50.
I do not work with what functions a person values over another so much as what functions are naturally being employed in auxiliary to (rather than in opposition to) another. Ne-Te is always going to be the primary mode of convergent interaction with reality within the ENTP - information perceived by Ne alone is not experienced, as experience is informed by assigned value. As such, all data is perceived by lenses and codecs of the same orientation.
In a more classic MBTI sense, the 'Ne data' being processed within 'Fi judgement' would in fact be Ne-Te data being processed within Si-Fi (aka specific limbic). In CPT an auxiliary is always of the same orientation, irrespective of egoistic value :)
After watching your videos explaining MBTI, Iam now unable to watch others.
You didn't cover Ni-Fe and Ni-Te. I was somewhat looking forward to Ni-Fe.
Hi! Ni and Fe do not operate alongside eachother as they are facing different directions.
Ni-Ti and Se-Fe is a different matter, but that is to be visited in a later episode as this video focuses on the lens-codec pairs :)
If you’re looking at it from an MBTI perspective, it’s better to think of this as him looking at the relationship between dominant and tertiary functions.
Now I don't know about you but my hearing and proprioception can see more than 120 degrees.
A valid point! Was using a visual explanation so that was purely in reference to the visual component of perception :)
So an INTJ would have a copec-lens composed of Ni-Fi, regardless of its Te?
Exactly, although the stronger the Te>Ti preference the more difficult it is for Ni-Fi to dip into Si-Ti.
Why do you use the word "value" when you refer to the Thinking function? Your perspective is interesting but sometimes it confuses me when you use some words. In the case of the ESFP, you talk about a "foccus on a specific portion of reality". That sounds right for Se. But you argue that Te is auxiliary to Se, stating the ESFP assigns "objective value" to this "portion of reality". But value and importance comes from feeling, not Thinking. The value imprinted on this portion of reality would have to come from a feeling function. In your theory it sounds like the extroverted percieving functions can't "comunicate" with introverted judging functions. So I it sounds like you wouldn't agree that the value of something external to the ESFP comes from Fi Judgement and not from Te... But something doesnt add up for me when you attribute the attribution of value to Te. You would have to somehow argue that "objective value" comes from some form of unconscious Fe for it to make sense to me. Wouldn't it be much more logical to say that the "value" (or lack of it) comes from an Fi evaluation of the experienced "portion of reality"?
Ah yes, the word 'value' is often conflated to imply 'personal value' - I use the word in the pure sense, such as a mathematical representation of x=y - the Te of the ESFP assigns an objective value in the sense of 'I am gazing at x that relates to y', which is extrapolated within Ni-Fi to assign limbic value :)
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory ok now i get it. I am still curious to know if I understood correctly that in your perspective extroverted functions can't "comunicate" with introverted functions and vice versa. Or did I misunderstand you? Thank you for your answer :) I'm not yet sure what to think about the immense nuanced presentations you give and can't say I agree with everything. But I am impressed and very interested in your videos. So keep going :)
@@amber15993 The Is and the Es are always communicating, they just operate in tandem :)
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How could you only spend 19 seconds on Si Fi lol
Real functions of each type:
Te-Se-Ni-Fi = ESTJ
Te-Ne-Si-Fi = ENTJ
Fe-Se-Ni-Ti = ESFJ
Fe-Ne-Si-Ti = ENFJ
Se-Te-Fi-Ni = ESTP
Se-Fe-Ti-Ni = ESFP
Ne-Te-Fi-Si = ENTP
Ne-Fe-Ti-Si = ENFP
Ti-Si-Ne-Fe = ISTJ
Ti-Ni-Se-Fe = INTJ
Fi-Si-Ne-Te = ISFJ
Fi-Ni-Se-Te = INFJ
Si-Ti-Fe-Ne = ISTP
Si-Fi-Te-Ne = ISFP
Ni-Ti-Fe-Se = INTP
Ni-Fi-Te-Se = INFP
Thank you!
I'm hesitant to change the dichotomies (even though I use my own cognitive codes behind the scenes), however, as while, say, an ESFJ is an Intuitive Extraverted Feeler, the role of the Si authority driving Fe-Ne employment is not to be underestimated :)
I'm not a fan of S vs N in general.
Haven't seen this before, what are you getting at?
These are the real functions of each type according to how Jung originally interpreted extraversion/introversion with conscious/unconscious. Read these posts if you want to take a deeper look. equinoctum.tumblr.com/post/187387865183/the-mbti-psychological-types-and-psychometric and equinoctum.tumblr.com/post/188941879838/cognitive-functions-of-the-psychological-types. Also read this blog, it's got tons of information akhromant.tumblr.com/index
I feel like this is an excellent example of the most probable dichotomy set found in each cognitive type. However, cognitive functions have weaseled their way into MBTI. I'm going to use this from now on to basically explain the dichotomy equivalent. However, the authority function gets buried under the mbti.
To be honest, MBTI is not suited for a function-based approach at all. Too much vital information is lost within dichotomies.
@@dc4019 Well said!