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Fuji XH2s vs Sony A7S III (Why You'll Prefer Fujifilm)

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  • Опубліковано 10 сер 2022
  • Camera battle! The new Fujifilm X-H2s with 18mm f1.4 and 8-16mm f2.8 vs the Sony A7S III with 20mm f1.8 and Zeiss Batis 25mm f2. Has aps-c crop sensor caught up to full frame? We compare dynamic range, color science, autofocus, stabilization etc. Is flog 2 better than slog 3? Film simulations like astia and nostalgic neg vs Sony's creative looks.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 411

  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому +8

    Thank you www.adencamera.com for the deal! Let's all go to Aden Camera tonight!
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    • @SocialMedia-lj5st
      @SocialMedia-lj5st 2 роки тому

      What are the camera clips on your backback straps? Or are those GoPro mounts? I'm not seeing them in your affiliate links, and they look wider than the Peak Design one, which is too narrow for my straps.

  • @stephenmckay6762
    @stephenmckay6762 2 роки тому +90

    Around the 4 min mark -- the sky is blue with fuji but grey with sony! Maybe sums up their world views.

    • @jd3330
      @jd3330 2 роки тому +4

      One’s glass half full and the other glass half empty type of company lol

    • @pawelmod3292
      @pawelmod3292 2 роки тому +6

      In the shots you are comparing: compare also the face. For me Fuji is underexposing the face so the sky looks ok. Sony on the other hand has proper face exposure which cause sky overexposed. In Sony you have the settings to adjust if you want to expose for face (when it is detected). So you cannot really conclude if you do not know the settings, but in the other hand it is dead simple to have the exposure the way want…

    • @stephenmckay6762
      @stephenmckay6762 2 роки тому +11

      @@pawelmod3292 ​ @j d Or try 11:28, where I'd say the face is darker with Sony and the Fuji exposure on the face is more natural.

    • @paddington2063
      @paddington2063 2 роки тому +3

      @@pawelmod3292 what? The shadows are deeper on Fuji but the skin tone is much better. If anything, the Sony is overexposed there

    • @pawelmod3292
      @pawelmod3292 2 роки тому +1

      @@paddington2063 this is what I’ve said. Sony set exposure for the face and because of it overall shot is over exposed and because of it sky lacks the colour. It is something that could be possibly asjusted in post. And that behaviour of camera is basing on user settings. On Fuji in mu opinion face is too dark, underexposed - something that also could be adjusted or managed in post.
      My point was/is, that to compare the cameras, you need to have the comparable settings - in that shot fuji is setting exposure for the whole frame, sony is balancing exposure basing on face as well.

  • @indago1
    @indago1 2 роки тому +31

    If you compare Fuji vs Sony a74, both are in same price category, then Fuji is better - you get good 4k 120, you get Prores, whyyy more recording options, Much better rolling shutter, better colors.
    So actually for its price, I think fuji is better.

    • @Jylakir
      @Jylakir 2 роки тому +3

      For Video for sure. I think Sony might have the edge when i comes to stills cause of full frame glory but for everything that goes fast, Fuji is a very good choise. I just hope Fuji will relase more new lenses. But 'm allready locked into the Sony eco-system.

    • @RandumbTech
      @RandumbTech 2 роки тому +2

      You can record 1080/120 on the Sony and then upscale to 4k if you really need that frame rate. The Sony is still the way better value since it’s FF and offers extremely reliable AF.

    • @ghostapi874
      @ghostapi874 2 роки тому +1

      I do work with both and I always end up taking the sony to the live jobs.
      Simply because the autofocus is stil random. It works great until it doesn’t and i’ve lost important moments because of that.
      If you do work where you can redo shots then yes I think the fuji has more potential but for fast live work its not trust worthy enough yet.

    • @80-80.
      @80-80. 2 роки тому +8

      If you don’t care too much about keeping your eye in focus, yes, Fuji wins.

    • @adnan_velic
      @adnan_velic 2 роки тому +5

      Fuji is the wayyy better option for video it’s not even a competition. I was not impressed with the a7iv when I owned it. I used it extensively and it’s just OK.

  • @TCinSoCal
    @TCinSoCal 2 роки тому +21

    Great comparison. Fuji 18 1.4 is a ridiculously good lens. Everyone says ‘science’ but I wasn’t seeing any significant (if any) real-world dynamic range advantage with the A7IV over the X-H2S.

    • @ZeitouniJad
      @ZeitouniJad 12 днів тому +1

      @@TCinSoCal and the fuji 33 f1.4 😍 , very sharp yet with some character. The stacked X trans sensor is a marvel on the XH2s

    • @TCinSoCal
      @TCinSoCal 11 днів тому

      @@ZeitouniJad it is truly an amazing combo.

  • @-_--le3zk
    @-_--le3zk 2 роки тому +25

    Sony a7siii was the most cinematic thing i had ever seen until fuji xh2s came and DESTROYED Sony,also dynamic range was definitely better on fuji, autofocus was great except for first few minutes

    • @niratyapornsecor2552
      @niratyapornsecor2552 2 роки тому

      A!

    • @-_--le3zk
      @-_--le3zk 2 роки тому

      @@niratyapornsecor2552 wut

    • @-_--le3zk
      @-_--le3zk 2 роки тому

      @Ops Blac or maybe the skies were "bluer" on xh2s giving this illusion of more highlights retention

    • @Bradum
      @Bradum Рік тому

      @@-_--le3zk I think you initiall assessment was correct. I'd say the sky is roughly equally exposed on both, but if you look at him, Sony has to underexpose him to get that exposure on the sky.

  • @HenkLeerssen
    @HenkLeerssen 2 роки тому +19

    Seems to me that the log on Fuji gets more colors in? Does it have the same bit rate? I prefer the Fuji colors for sure..

    • @pascalbasel
      @pascalbasel 2 роки тому +4

      Flog2 has a slightly wider color space and grabs the image from 14bit. That could be the reason.

    • @timothymatthews6458
      @timothymatthews6458 2 роки тому +1

      @@pascalbasel 14 bit? How is that even possible? Is that why this new Fuji camera has such a big price?

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому +3

      @@timothymatthews6458 It as a bigger price because it as more features that even the Sony. 6.2k, ProRes internally, 40fps for photos, Better Dynamic Range, etc

    • @JoaquimGonsalves
      @JoaquimGonsalves 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions I think the Sony doesn't have a stacked sensor either yeah? If I'm not wrong only the A1 has a stacked chip. This would also add to the cost.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      @@JoaquimGonsalves The A7SIII doesn’t have stacked sensor only the A1 does.

  • @smashingfables6307
    @smashingfables6307 2 роки тому +11

    I love the Fujifilm's look. The Sony is just soft sometimes and colours only your mom would love. I'm still curious as to how that 4K120 would look slowed to 240 on iMovie. Got great results from my Sony doing that.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому +4

      I've slowed the 240p to 480p a couple times, looked good.

  • @DeepteshLovesTECH
    @DeepteshLovesTECH 2 роки тому +16

    9:04 That's a nice improvement. Very nice. Hopefully all previous cameras can get this new focus algo. Please!

    • @catbread2585
      @catbread2585 2 роки тому +3

      I'm quite ignorant about this but isnt this also the result of a new 18mm? I think all the new fuji lens will work great with af along the new cameras

    • @RohitNaik
      @RohitNaik 2 місяці тому

      and the greens on the sony is horrendous

  • @MikePGuitars
    @MikePGuitars 2 роки тому +9

    I’d be curious to see if setting WB with a gray card solves the occasional orange shirt problem.

    • @Fedorevsky
      @Fedorevsky 2 роки тому

      Of course it would. Nobody shoots like this (except Camera Conspiracies of course, lol).

  • @coolbananaboy5075
    @coolbananaboy5075 2 роки тому +7

    I love your videos!
    Been subscribed for years and I'm pretty sure I'll buy my first camera soon.
    Through your affiliate links, obviously.

  • @rondelfilms
    @rondelfilms 5 місяців тому +1

    Been using my XH2S for over a year. Shot hundreds of videos. Absolutely love it.
    Also recently used it on a commercial shoot as it was the only camera to shoot ProRes internal.
    The whole crew was impressed with my Fuji!

  • @richaneesh
    @richaneesh 2 роки тому +8

    I thought stabilization was better in Fuji, I don't know if it's right but you were very carefully stepping while testing Sony but not in Fuji test. But 240fps is just so bad what the hell Fuji.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      I agree the Fuji IBIS was way better in the video and also for 240p I think he needs to check is settings and the bitrate he’s selecting for that.

    • @richaneesh
      @richaneesh 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions in whatever settings and bitrate I have tried the 240fps was just crap.

  • @ZeitouniJad
    @ZeitouniJad 12 днів тому +1

    I love the fuji system the stacked Xtrans sensor is a marvel , their lens line up is strong

  • @1BigBucks1
    @1BigBucks1 2 роки тому +11

    That 18mm lens handled very well

    • @porfiry
      @porfiry 2 роки тому

      I think he meant 16mm, because the only 18 is an f2 pancake.

    • @catbread2585
      @catbread2585 2 роки тому +1

      @@porfiry what? I'm pretty sure the 18mm is the new lens that came out with the new 23mm 1.4 and the 33mm 1.4

    • @porfiry
      @porfiry 2 роки тому

      @@catbread2585 Was he talking about a Sony 18mm lens, and only shooting the 8-16 on the Fuji? I guess that was never really clear to me.

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft 2 роки тому +2

      @@porfiry The 18mm F1.4 LM WR is the newer prime and came out first of the new 18/ 23/ 33 lineup. The 8-16 F2.8 is a landscape and architecture oil barrel

    • @porfiry
      @porfiry 2 роки тому

      @@Vinterloft Wow, I wasn’t even aware those came out…I’ve had at least the (pre-redesign I guess) 23/1.4 in the past and hated the bulk of it, so I haven’t paid much attention since I started shooting all the little F2s. I think early on in the video he is indeed using the 8-16 fattie, though, and switches somewhere in the middle.

  • @lerx1980
    @lerx1980 2 роки тому +3

    Is your shirt now red or orange? I've never been so confused.

  • @david.stachon
    @david.stachon 2 роки тому +25

    I'm convinced more than ever that white balance should always be set manually, and not even with a white card, but just by eye through the viewfinder.
    It's everything.

    • @wholesome.footage3923
      @wholesome.footage3923 2 роки тому +3

      ...so what you're saying is I should set everything to auto?
      jk100% agree

    • @david.stachon
      @david.stachon 2 роки тому

      @Ops Blac Yeah, that's a good starting point for sure. I feel it auto-WBs a little warm for my taste.

  • @ActionXander
    @ActionXander 2 роки тому +6

    Fuji colors are just so much more vibrant and full of life

  • @viniciusmoura9105
    @viniciusmoura9105 2 роки тому +2

    8:30 Seems that Fuji H2S is a Moiré Behemoth. Looks like the image quality degrades quite a bit in slow motion too, unfortunately.

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 2 роки тому +4

    Starting to think your t-shirt is actually orange and not red.

  • @carlomacchiavello
    @carlomacchiavello 2 роки тому +1

    How do you do this test?
    How do you setup cameras? What kind of log (Sony log s2,s3, Fuji flog 1 or 2), how do you normalize log? In what color space?
    I saw faster this video because most of bla bla bla was about his impression and not a tech test.
    I use to manage different cameras and different brand and to find real difference you should start from a common point of exposure, white balance, and more… also for autofocus test he use lenses with different value, that influence a lot the result.

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves 2 роки тому +2

    You're on a roll with the XH2S vids!:)

  • @ChrisA2617
    @ChrisA2617 2 роки тому +17

    TBH I liked both images... But the brutal stabe and auto focus on the Fuji is a complete deal breaker. The pulsing is insane and the warpy stabe is absurd

    • @Bradum
      @Bradum Рік тому +2

      Either Kasey was doing something wrong, or something was up with his camera. Fuji AF is not that bad. Sony is certainly still better though.

  • @shido00
    @shido00 2 роки тому +6

    Life was better with Panasonic and the glorious manually focused mitakon

    • @herrreinsch
      @herrreinsch 2 роки тому +2

      I'm actually watching all his older videos that I have missed right now. It really is glorious. :) (don't forget the sony X3000 and canon SX50 :P )

  • @thissidetowardscreen4553
    @thissidetowardscreen4553 2 роки тому +5

    I think this video broke me. . It is a search that has no end. I am going to lay on the couch and ponder life! btw, the Fuji looked better over all!

  • @leonarddavis8449
    @leonarddavis8449 2 роки тому +2

    You should go and spend a week with Phillip Bloom, I can’t bear to see you
    struggle but I guess that’s the point.
    I think you should make a mini movie using different cameras for some
    continuity fun.

  • @mribi
    @mribi 2 роки тому +9

    Loving the Fuji and Sony content, big fella 🔥

  • @evankolpack
    @evankolpack 2 роки тому +3

    The Fuj is has better greens, better DR leading to better blues in the sky, better overall color science, it's lighter, faster, better rolling shutter, better stab (IMHO), higher res (26mp vs 12mp) and WAY cheaper. As for the crappy animal AF, this is a brand new feature on a just released camera, and they are excellent about kaizen improvements (another plus for Fuj), which will probably address a lot of the other small stuff. For anything outside wildlife, I don't see how you can beat the Fuj for under $4k. I'd like to see the XH2S vs Canon R5C.

    • @editarts1
      @editarts1 2 роки тому

      man r5c is a monstrous 8k12 bit badaas.it is the king.its not in the xh2s a7s3-4 range.damn those rf lenses are way expensive

    • @evankolpack
      @evankolpack 2 роки тому

      @@editarts1 Agreed the R5c is in a whole different league in many ways, but it also falls behind the XH2S in some very important ways, mainly; terrible battery life, flimsy micro HDMI port, no IBIS, heavy, big, very expensive with very expensive lenses. Although the XH2S can't hit the upper bounds of the R5C in terms of resolution, and bit depth, how many people are actually going to shoot anything ever @ 8k 12-bit? Most people will be shooting in 4k, maybe 6.2 down sampled or cropped to 4k, or even 1080. At these resolutions, the gap between the XH2S and R5C starts to narrow. They both have similar dynamic range, great color science, great image quality, good codecs, good AF, etc.....but again, the XH2S has the advantage of very good battery life, good IBIS, a real HDMI port, and it's lighter and smaller (especially after you factor that you pretty much NEED to rig up the R5C). I still think the R5C would probably look a bit better overall and edge out the XH2S, but from the vast amount of footage I've seen from both, the XH2S might pull a surprise upset.

  • @thomas_fodor
    @thomas_fodor 2 роки тому +4

    Manual focus override..... Pretty sure you touched the focus ring Brother.

    • @creativecomputers6060
      @creativecomputers6060 2 роки тому +1

      I was gonna write the same thing -manual focus override ftw.. being in focus is overrated, what really matters is what’s in the heart, that’s what matters

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому

      Even though I explained in the video that when you do that, the focus box disappears and peaking turns on. That's not what happened.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому +1

      Also, if I had touched the focus ring it would have stayed focus very close to me. This jumped way to the background.

    • @thomas_fodor
      @thomas_fodor 2 роки тому

      @@cameraconspiracies Very strange, have you reported it to Fuji, & If so what did they say it could be? Also, did it do it with anything other than the 18mm? Could be a lens firmware update issue. Be interesting to see if you can get it to do it again & under what circumstances... Food 4 thunkage..

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому

      @@thomas_fodor All lenses do that.

  • @xorrior4438
    @xorrior4438 2 роки тому +11

    Fuji keeps up very well today. Considering how much less you can get Fuji gear. I'd say they're pretty competitive. Sometimes the Sony colors are better but most of the time Fuji was nicer. Neutral on Sony was pretty good. Other than some focus issue at the beginning... Fuji was very solid.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому +3

      The focusing issues at the beginning was either because of the type of lens he was using or human error.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 2 роки тому

      Fuji isn't all that cheap if you factor in equivalent lenses. Their new primes are stellar, but build quality is inconsistent (different ring feel across the 18, 23, 33). 33mm is less sharp than a cheaper Nikon Z 50mm f1.8. Fuji 16-55 costs the same price as a Sigma 24-70 f2.8 or Sony 24-105 f4 with lens stab.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      @@professionalpotato4764 There are prime lenses from Viltrox for Fuji that cost between $200-400.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions Apart from the 13mm and maybe the 85, the rest are really poor in terms of optical quality, and Sigma offers better valued lenses on the e-mount for fairly close prices, especially on the used market.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions We're talking about $2500+ cameras here, optical quality is all that matters. Nobody should be buying $200 lenses for their $2500 camera. Most of Fuji's high end lenses are just objectively bad value compared to full frame offerings.

  • @WayneBretsky86
    @WayneBretsky86 2 роки тому +1

    God, I love this channel. Please stay your unique self, forever. Such a gift to UA-cam!

  • @arcticfoxstudios2018
    @arcticfoxstudios2018 2 роки тому +3

    Fuji has better color and exposure. The focusing in the beginning is a little alarming. Not sure they are near Sony level. Every time I think about buying the Sony over the Fuj though, I just need to watch one of your videos and shudder. It's pretty crummy looking. All I want is the perfect camera...sigh....

  • @ouslander1
    @ouslander1 2 роки тому +2

    Cain reference is a Camera vlog. Noice! 👍👍

  • @przybylskipawel
    @przybylskipawel 2 роки тому +1

    It looks like you have underexposed the log profile on Sony. I can clearly see characteristic noise patterns. Probably NR algorithm destroyed the details and that is why you percieve shadows as less detialed. Not to mention huge difference in input resolution of both sensors.

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves 2 роки тому +2

    When the butterfly scenes came up, I was thinking you should start filming 3d content with these two setups.🤣

  • @pmiddlet72
    @pmiddlet72 2 роки тому +1

    Agreed on the oddities of how each camera exposes the subject. The Fuj appears, at least in YT, to have some 'extra' level of contrast baked in (is this all FLog ?). When you walk into the shade though, it looks quite nice. Otherwise the darks are, I dunno, maybe a tad bit much - personal pref. The face tones appeared to edge toward the magenta in certain cases ( yet the orange of the shirt was probably correct - I'd be curious what your vector scope shows).
    On the Sony front - I'm not a fan of S-Cinebone. I don't think it's any wonderful in-camera solution to Sony colors. It's f'ing magenta, too. Grading SLog3 is far easier for me (and I can for the most part, camera match it). I've learned to trust it and can simply concentrate on exposure and DoF (yeah, I use a monitor to apply a custom lut tha..... wait, not vlogger useful :)).
    You really DO need solid in-camera color and DR. Maybe handhold an Arri (read: monkey strength for the delts) ? Wait, no 240p for you. And you might separate your shoulder holding that rig at arm's length.......dang. And I thought jiu-jitsu was rough on 'em.

  • @tor2919
    @tor2919 2 роки тому +4

    Fuji look way better. Indoor colours look bad on the Sony. That Fuji 18mm f1.4 looked great

  • @50shadesofNV
    @50shadesofNV 2 роки тому +1

    solid video, F - Log, really F log profiles, i use neutral in sony and eterna in fuji, screw screwing around with these logs. WHY NOT just vlog with the new 18 F1.4 that has the improved autofocus for a "more" fair comparison VS using the old arthritic Fuji lenses ?

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      I was saying the same thing. I have the XH2S and use it with the new Tamron and I don’t have such issues. If he his so crazy for way lenses he can as well get the Viltrox 13mm.

  • @BalaKrishna-bq5iz
    @BalaKrishna-bq5iz 2 роки тому +3

    I own both A7siii and XT4 (soon getting Xh2s) and I used Eterna and S-Cinetone extensively. Gotta say "testing" DR with color profiles is silly. Roughly speaking, S-Cinetone gets you 60-70% of DR A7siii is capable of while Eterna gets you 80-90% of what Fuji cameras are capable of. Eterna is pretty closer to log footage with its low contrast and subtle pleasing colors where as S-Cinetone is of high contrast and crushes shadows. Totally different looks to even compare. Even Neutral on Sony isn't as flat as Eterna.
    The only way to "test" for DR is to shoot in log and from lab tests we know both these cameras yield about the same 12+ stops of DR which is pretty impressive for consumer cameras (We could get a stop or two more by shooting in Raw exteenally and doing the nouse reduction ourselves). For comparison, Canon R5 and R5c is still at 10,11 stops despite oversampling from 8k.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому

      Most of the video was comparing log... And then I tried some other profiles that are most common.

    • @BalaKrishna-bq5iz
      @BalaKrishna-bq5iz 2 роки тому

      @@cameraconspiracies I can see value in this for someone who is thinking to get one of these cameras who wont shoot log and want to know which one gets them better DR straight.... S Cinetone or Eterna. That's a very valid question to have and your video answers it.... It's Eterna, even before Xh2s is released. However, I just want to emphasize how this is different from the camera's Dynamic Range itself. Shoutout for making these videos though. I'm liking these Sony Fuji videos lately.

  • @amitugol5916
    @amitugol5916 2 роки тому +6

    No matter how you changed it, the colour of the sky on the Sony was what I call 'post apocalyptic'.

    • @Ladraz
      @Ladraz 2 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @editarts1
      @editarts1 2 роки тому

      what thaaaaa

  • @AoyagiAichou
    @AoyagiAichou 2 роки тому +1

    I think you need to have the same tonyature to compare slowmo quality though. Still, I may complain, but I love these comparisons and I pray for a GH6 to be added to the mix one day still.

  • @prismaticfire
    @prismaticfire 2 роки тому +2

    Could immediately tell which one was Fuji - more pronounced dynamic range with punchier colors and that good ol’ MAGENTA skin!

  • @lovemademan
    @lovemademan 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing Sony! I know it has a manual color dictionary similar to the latest Xperia line. It wins for me...

  • @DennisSchmitz
    @DennisSchmitz 2 роки тому +1

    It seems like there's around 1 more stop of latitude, which has also been confirmed by CineD.
    You can clearly see how much more detail is there in both shadows and highlights.

    • @memcrew1
      @memcrew1 Рік тому

      Are you referring to the Fuji?

  • @joeygwood
    @joeygwood 2 роки тому +2

    Canon colors FTW!

  • @marvellis6762
    @marvellis6762 2 роки тому

    Oh they let you out for the day. How wonderful..... can't beat a bit of charismatic photography. Splendid stuff Sir!

  • @svengoj
    @svengoj 2 роки тому +3

    0:36 you can see very good
    - the sony has still more dynamic range (all the details in the clouds where the fuji did not see clouds and paint it just blue).
    - you also see that the white balance for the sony is off to the warm side. And white balance has a hughe impact on colors. Like the "wow so blue" sky and straps and blacks and reds and the greeeeens
    - And you see that the fuji also is set to a higher contrast and more saturation.
    - Just go to PP1 (what is the same like PP off) and add contrast and saturation. Then film with the correct white balance.
    (and try N-Log lut on S-log3. Darken the blacks a bit and add some saturation. sony never looked better.)

  • @markifi
    @markifi 2 роки тому +1

    whenever there's a problem with the image on this channel i immediately assume user error

  • @jonuiuc
    @jonuiuc 2 роки тому +6

    that 18mm 1.4 looks good

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому +1

      Would prefer a wider lens in that series!

    • @frameofminds.
      @frameofminds. 2 роки тому +4

      @camera conspiracies the viltrox 13mm toneh 1.4 looks like a good third party option for vlogging

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому +1

      @@frameofminds. ua-cam.com/video/ncaRSI1CXIE/v-deo.html

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      @@cameraconspiracies Get the Viltrox 13mm since you want a wide lens. That 8-16mm is outdated, even Fuji doesn’t recommend it.

  • @simonsolbakken9063
    @simonsolbakken9063 6 місяців тому

    I love the greens of the Fuji. My Pocket 4K views all greens as though it is autumn all year, haha! Next camera will probably be Fuji.

  • @ghostapi874
    @ghostapi874 2 роки тому +5

    Dear lord i'm glad I do not have fuji autofocus in my life anymore.

    • @Kenriko
      @Kenriko 2 роки тому

      it's atrociously bad

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому +2

      You could clearly see that the autofocus issue he had at the beginning was either a human error by him or the lens he was using because when he switched to the 18mm he never had such issues. I have the XH2S and I don’t have such issues.

    • @ghostapi874
      @ghostapi874 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions probebly yes but i’ve seen hunting in multiple videos.
      I assume this is because there using old lenses but my current workflow cant afford waiting for them to refresh there lens line up.
      So wether it is the camera or the lenses it makes it a non starter for me.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому +2

      @@ghostapi874 You will have to ask them what lenses they are using because most of this so called video’s clearly show that the reviewers never took time to set up or understand their cameras but just rush to put out videos. I have the XH2S and it is working well for me. I already have 3 video up on my channels showcasing the camera filmed all handheld at various events.

    • @ghostapi874
      @ghostapi874 2 роки тому

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions Ye there is a bunch of miss information atm making it difficult.
      But I really like fuji and I think they are making big strides in there cameras. However I think i’ll wait for them to mature the system now. They just started nailing there AF while sony/canon has been perfecting for years. I’ll give them that same time now.
      I’ll stick with sony for another generation before considering a swap back to fuji.

  • @camrolaguardia
    @camrolaguardia 2 роки тому +2

    that 240 on the fuji looks like gopro footage. why? this might actually be a dealbreaker for me. oh no.

  • @CheerleaderTW5566
    @CheerleaderTW5566 Рік тому

    I always set manual white balance and color grading SONY's footage after shooting, the original skin tone on SONY is just like a nightmare. But for the Fuji , well just relax and enjoy shooting

  • @MariusMutin
    @MariusMutin 2 роки тому +1

    That 2:11 sequence is G.O.L.D

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves 2 роки тому +2

    Damn! That 18mil is tempting.

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому +1

      That 18mm is magic. I suggest he stays with it and stop testing old outdated lenses.

  • @fanli279
    @fanli279 3 місяці тому +1

    thats exactly why i choose sony over other camera for video. f the color science , f the dynamic range, f everything if the clip lose focus.

  • @veresdenialex
    @veresdenialex Рік тому +1

    One Tip with Sony! Shoot 500-1000 Kelvin lower than normal temperature, sony has a warmer sensor giving you grey skies

    • @veresdenialex
      @veresdenialex Рік тому

      Also Sony sensor captures about 1 stop of light more than fuji, so you need to lower some settings on the sony to match exposures. Look how the sky is blownout and overall the image looks more washed out, it's because of that.

  • @bearbearingston7696
    @bearbearingston7696 2 роки тому +1

    A7SIII seems superior other than the colours but neutral toned down looks good other than the crushed blacks

  • @bauticdlb
    @bauticdlb Рік тому +1

    Great video bro

  • @jaaaayy
    @jaaaayy 2 роки тому +1

    Sony? Fuji? ... Canon... oh you horrible beautiful beast, every time. I tried, Tried to take a bad sunset photo with my 5d mkiii... it was beautiful, I dropped it in the sand minutes before taking the photo as well

  • @jamesrichardson4741
    @jamesrichardson4741 2 роки тому +7

    still prefer sony x3000

  • @mariusmocan8491
    @mariusmocan8491 2 роки тому +4

    I'll admit Sony really stepped it up with their colors, but Fuji is still king. Sony still doesn't know how to do skin tones.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble 2 роки тому

      In testing, Sony's colour tends to be the most accurate of any camera manufacturer.

  • @SuperSuperka
    @SuperSuperka 2 роки тому

    Dear Cayce, can you make streaking test for each camera? Right now nobody does it intentionally, unfortunately.

  • @fabiocunhaphoto
    @fabiocunhaphoto 2 роки тому +1

    Love the Fuji colors

  • @nakinaki7991
    @nakinaki7991 2 роки тому +1

    Wow the dynamic range on fuji is very good!

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl 2 роки тому +1

    “Mom the weird man is back again and he has two camera this time!”

  • @webinatic216
    @webinatic216 2 роки тому +4

    Canon 6D 2 colors looked perfect

    • @ajinkyathorat7502
      @ajinkyathorat7502 Рік тому +1

      hell no they look like shit smeared on them with horrible dynamic range. Go back dslr shooting grandpa.

  • @ericrjennings
    @ericrjennings 2 роки тому +2

    Fooj colors look better. Not sure what’s up with the AF

    • @fepethepenguin8287
      @fepethepenguin8287 2 роки тому

      I was impressed with the color and dynamic range. And that 3D POP ha

    • @willmannering
      @willmannering 2 роки тому

      Don't forget that the Sony is in slog3 and he might not be doing a correct s.gamut3.cine to rec709 transform correctly. The colors look like crap especially the greens on the Sony, but that could be down to improper post-processing.

  • @HeroGambit
    @HeroGambit 2 роки тому

    Is it me or on the fuji if you look close to the eyes they white is not white, it's a mix of skin tones, where on the Sony it's much more towards white?

  • @mystikmeg
    @mystikmeg Рік тому +1

    Hahahahah. The focus test at 9 minutes is fricken hilair!!!!!!!

  • @itsaaronmiller
    @itsaaronmiller 2 роки тому

    I’ve noticed that there is a bug every now and then if you turn the camera on the AF will be back focused and won’t respond until you turn it off and back on and then it should be money. I’m sure this will get ironed out in a FW update

    • @RandumbTech
      @RandumbTech 2 роки тому

      I’d never buy a Fuji at initial launch for 2 reasons: 1) they never work right and occasionally get fixed with future firmware upgrades and 2) they typically discount the price (sometimes by a lot) if the camera does not sell well (like this one)

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      I honestly don’t think there was a camera issue as most of what I see in his video are human errors and lens choices. He should stay with his 18mm or get the Tamron 17-70 or the Viltrox 13mm. The 8-16mm is not a good lens as it can’t keep up with the new Fuji XH2S AF system.

  • @just_eirik
    @just_eirik 2 роки тому

    You know that setting in Fuji cameras that lets you increase dynamic range by changing from 100% to 200% and 400%? Does that affect video? It affects RAW photos, but I’m not a videographer so I don’t know.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  2 роки тому

      Yes. Can't be used in log though.

    • @muratsaglam9423
      @muratsaglam9423 Рік тому

      @@cameraconspiracies it's because it's set to dr400 when you switch to log profiles.

  • @Cloud09x
    @Cloud09x 2 роки тому

    Throwing this into the void, have you tried son'y LUTs for slog2/slog3?

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider 2 роки тому

    Laying logs. And I do like the Fuji more. By the way, will either of these cameras record raw video internally?

  • @MasterSekeyi
    @MasterSekeyi 2 роки тому +4

    There are so many Fuji fanbois crying ☠️☠️

  • @troyladoux1953
    @troyladoux1953 2 роки тому +4

    The Sony looks "milky" and the Fuji looks crisp or sharp...to me.

  • @Anomaliayt
    @Anomaliayt 5 місяців тому

    This channel is so unhinged and I kinda love it

  • @GermanTabor
    @GermanTabor Рік тому +1

    Dude this is so funny, love it

  • @hepgeoff
    @hepgeoff 2 роки тому +1

    Your shirt looks More orange on the Fuji compared to the Sony.

  • @adenwang.
    @adenwang. 7 місяців тому +1

    haha i love your video, and your sense of humor

  • @the_morf
    @the_morf 2 роки тому +3

    If you lived in that neighbourhood why wouldn't you call the police?

  • @rvv1605
    @rvv1605 2 роки тому +1

    I'm watching 3rd time this video.
    I want to see colour of the sky which sony a7siii can't see.

  • @AndyLSB
    @AndyLSB 2 роки тому +1

    well the Fuj is pretty great, in terms of DR Its definitely there with the Sony, or at least pretty close, when are you testing the GH6? the stabe on that camera is gonna crush everything you have, plus the autofocus is probably better than the Fuj, My 8-18mm leica focuses blazing fast on my GH6

  • @nh-ss5pw
    @nh-ss5pw 2 роки тому

    Where is the final Fuji reviews from the “big time” channels ??

  • @michaellundphotography
    @michaellundphotography 2 роки тому

    Can you choose white priority for auto white balance on the Sony? You might like that more ☺️

  • @MikeMena
    @MikeMena 2 роки тому +1

    Flog2 definitely did something… good. 👍🏽

  • @ARlELATOM
    @ARlELATOM 2 роки тому +6

    I personally think the Sony looked way more cinematic, but maybe it’s the lens?

  • @DennisSchmitz
    @DennisSchmitz 2 роки тому

    Both Rec709 profiles (Cinetone and Eterna) look quite bad...

  • @erkko69
    @erkko69 2 роки тому +1

    Your rabbi look looks good.

  • @paulmaher1705
    @paulmaher1705 11 місяців тому

    Prefer how the XH2S looks, looking at other videos on UA-cam there seems to be a a very big difference in autofocus perfomance on some Fuji lenses

  • @theGiantAngryRobot
    @theGiantAngryRobot 10 місяців тому

    Omg dude 😂 you have the best sense of humor. Entertaining and informative 👍

  • @untamo80
    @untamo80 Рік тому

    9:03: this is masterpiece👍

  • @Vinterloft
    @Vinterloft 2 роки тому

    You probably tapped the focus mode selector button. And because it wasn't getting the additional input to actually change modes it timed out and went back to AF but didn't AF while waiting for the joystick input. Anyway, if you're not keeping it for wildlife just sell it and get the cheaper X-H2 for the vlog stuff. None of the old non-LM lenses are ever going to be able to catch up with the X-H2S' capabilites, it's 150-600 or nothing for wildlife, and the 90mm F2 for concerts

    • @AsuquoTravelsProductions
      @AsuquoTravelsProductions 2 роки тому

      The 18mm, Tamron 17-70mm and Viltrox 13mm are some of the lenses that I have noticed that work really well with the XH2S.

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft 2 роки тому +1

      @@AsuquoTravelsProductions Yeah absolutely. The Viltrox 13 is especially impressive, its performance in stickiness at F1.4 is some kind of voodoo.

  • @dct124
    @dct124 2 роки тому +1

    The Fuji does look better at the look out. Otherwise just horrible daylight.

  • @veresdenialex
    @veresdenialex Рік тому +1

    fuji is a lot darker, in my test i found fuji to be 1 stop darker, that's why sony looks so flat and yucky because it's overexposed, while fuji has some dark shadows. dynamic range is better on the sony if you expose them right

    • @veresdenialex
      @veresdenialex Рік тому

      also try shooting 500-1000 kelvin bellow normal Temparature, sony has warmer tones for some reason. that will fix most of your problems

  • @Troy_Sent_A_Message
    @Troy_Sent_A_Message 2 роки тому +1

    Crazy how easy I spotted that the Fuji looks better, but Sony has a touch better Dynamic range. Fuji wins for overall look for sure!

  • @petouser
    @petouser 2 роки тому +6

    9:45 Fuji color are so much lovlier in Fuji's shot. I don't know what the Sony is doing but it looks super depressing.

  • @pjrnd1011
    @pjrnd1011 2 роки тому

    7:28 please tell me it’s the new wide angle Tamron Lens.

  • @blutey
    @blutey 2 роки тому

    Yes, I thought it was a yarmulke until you turned it 180 degrees halfway through the video.

  • @ryancampbell1151
    @ryancampbell1151 2 роки тому +1

    Where is the Z9?

  • @fromagefrais
    @fromagefrais 2 роки тому +1

    Sony is just the cinema