considering gods can't "legally" intervene too mutch, it's almost certain that durge was made from divine flesh, yet his actual power is the same as any other beeing, just with greater potential than others (i would gwess that if it were otherwise we would be seeing waaaay more god like beeings shifting the world all around for their parents)
it would also explain why tav is a white dragonborn wizard with weirdly high physical stats (pre tadpole) of course baal would make the perfect killing machine. cant use magic? I will use my hands? cant use my hands? I will literally bite your head off and as my skin is shinny white your blood will glisten as it drips off me.
Though, we also need to account that his father himself is a quasi deity. A quasi deity of a quasi deity might produce something naturally magically powerful and gifted (Explaining sorcerer levels), and as seen with tadpoling, getting brain wormed has a habit of resetting player level to 1
Bhaal shot a bloody booger into Faerun after doing a bit too much blow with bane one night, and was surprised to find it walking around and making sacrifices the next morning
Idk who this goblin zombie demon this is, but he makes me laugh in any scene I see him in anyone’s vids. This encourages me to play as a Durge in my next playthrough
Would be severe spoilers to say who he is, but I assure you he is nobody to be laughed at! You'll be seeing him a lot as you play durge though, and he's a great character. Hope you enjoy the durge playthrough though, because the entire story is different despite following the same general path and main events. There will be many similarities, but you'll see everything add up as you go and it'll feel completely different!
That explains a lot. How Durge came to be when Bhall has been impotent for so long. Why Durge is so special. How they truly *are* the Dark Urge, which is why the Slayer form is really their “true” form, should they embrace murder. Interesting… I’d been wondering about this!
He loves you dearly but he is also explicitly and irrevocably evil. It would be against his nature to be redeemed, and intellectually, emotionally, and quite possibly physically, painful, if not outright lethal. His death before your redemption was a mercy
@@deptusmechanikus7362 Not really. The buttler always mentions Bhaal as a separate entity and if you find his hat, the item description seams to imply that he had a life of his own before coming into bhaal's service.
I havent accepted Baahl in any Durge run yet (as ive only done 1) , so its kind of sad to know that my Durge wont know some of these things (it kills him to not know) . i also imagined (while i didnt know why at the time) that (my) Durge would have suffered seizures of some kind (be it the scary and 'dramatic' looking ones, or something more that causes spams, and reparative jerks in a limb). After learning about Orins victory right before the events of the game, and now confirmed that your brain is damaged as fuck. I imagine my durge to have suffered them post-game at least
If u cast the Level 6th healing spell in Baldurs Gate you can recall some memories (It will be a different memory if you’ve faced Orin already) you may not be able to find out specifics but there are certain points in the story when Durge can briefly recall their memory; The Noblestalk being the other method that you can find early in act 1/Underdark
I tried accepting Bhaal but Jaheira and Minsc were disappointed with me, broke my heart, then I stepped outside and I'm forced to kill them. I reloaded right away. Can't do it
I have never seen this dialogue before, thank you for the video. Although I must admit the title is a bit misleading. There wasn't even a mention of a mother. But still, there is the clear explanation of how Durge came to be, sculpted of Bhaal's flesh.
I wonder if this means Withers alters a resisted Durge's body, since the Urge is gone and he says Bhaal only killed that part of them. Or maybe it doesn't matter if Bhaal doesn't have that hold anymore? I saw some mention of bhaalspawn babies from an evil Durge so now I'm just wondering if Jahiera was right to be worried at the party for my good Durge lol
Given The Dark Urge is sculpted from Bhaal's flesh, would that imply any children born from them are as such, Bhaalspawn? That would be a pretty solid way to bring Bhaalspawn back into the fold should there ever be a Baldur's Gate 4.
@@SelejXthere is a Version were you embrace Bhaal in the temple but then defy him and destroy the brain anyway. You then have the final choice to either end yourself or to try and defy Bhaal further... the second option however does not go according to plan...
Up the stairs in the Elfsong Tavern you notice 2 double doors that your Tav will comment on saying something like "you can rent rooms". Physically that is where the "camp is". Talk to Allyn the tavern/barkeep in front of the kitchens, you can buy it but just pass a persuasion check to get the room for free. It will however become the permanent camp for the Lower City once you speak with him, so make sure you're done exploring and looting the default camp first.
@@Spirittism yup, you can't get some of the romance dialogues if you don't rest at least two or three times in the Docks camp, (if you came through the other 2 acts with fewer rests...)
![Party romance banter if romancing Shadowheart [Patch 7 fix]](/img/n.gif)
Okay but according to forgotten realms lore this means Durge is a fucking Titan, a quasi-deity.
considering gods can't "legally" intervene too mutch, it's almost certain that durge was made from divine flesh, yet his actual power is the same as any other beeing, just with greater potential than others (i would gwess that if it were otherwise we would be seeing waaaay more god like beeings shifting the world all around for their parents)
it would also explain why tav is a white dragonborn wizard with weirdly high physical stats (pre tadpole)
of course baal would make the perfect killing machine. cant use magic? I will use my hands? cant use my hands? I will literally bite your head off and as my skin is shinny white your blood will glisten as it drips off me.
@@kevind3974 That's so metal
@@kevind3974 durge, not tav
Though, we also need to account that his father himself is a quasi deity.
A quasi deity of a quasi deity might produce something naturally magically powerful and gifted (Explaining sorcerer levels), and as seen with tadpoling, getting brain wormed has a habit of resetting player level to 1
Bhaal shot a bloody booger into Faerun after doing a bit too much blow with bane one night, and was surprised to find it walking around and making sacrifices the next morning
Bruh resist durge must be such a slap in the face for bhaal
Yes! Now I wanna do a resist durge run where the mc is AWARE and doing good out of spite
@@feetpicsasmrjust finished that run, pretty awesome you get a lot of cool interactions with withers and something special with him at bhaal temple
Durge literally has no mother. Bhaal crafted them from his own being.
Straight out of his bhaal-sack
Oc do not steal
Like Marika when she made all the Demi gods
“Fetch the bucket of Bhaal” he’s so funny
Idk who this goblin zombie demon this is, but he makes me laugh in any scene I see him in anyone’s vids. This encourages me to play as a Durge in my next playthrough
Would be severe spoilers to say who he is, but I assure you he is nobody to be laughed at! You'll be seeing him a lot as you play durge though, and he's a great character.
Hope you enjoy the durge playthrough though, because the entire story is different despite following the same general path and main events. There will be many similarities, but you'll see everything add up as you go and it'll feel completely different!
That explains a lot. How Durge came to be when Bhall has been impotent for so long. Why Durge is so special. How they truly *are* the Dark Urge, which is why the Slayer form is really their “true” form, should they embrace murder. Interesting… I’d been wondering about this!
i wish we couldve saved him as redemption durge T_T
He loves you dearly but he is also explicitly and irrevocably evil. It would be against his nature to be redeemed, and intellectually, emotionally, and quite possibly physically, painful, if not outright lethal. His death before your redemption was a mercy
Isn't he basically just an extension of Bhaal too though?
@@snowpoler he is, yeah. He's Bhaal's "Mini-me"
@@snowpolerSo he’s basically our dad? Bhaal is so sweet isn’t he.
@@deptusmechanikus7362 Not really. The buttler always mentions Bhaal as a separate entity and if you find his hat, the item description seams to imply that he had a life of his own before coming into bhaal's service.
I love how the armor breast plate looks like the Incredible's costume symbol. 😂😂😂
I havent accepted Baahl in any Durge run yet (as ive only done 1) , so its kind of sad to know that my Durge wont know some of these things (it kills him to not know) .
i also imagined (while i didnt know why at the time) that (my) Durge would have suffered seizures of some kind (be it the scary and 'dramatic' looking ones, or something more that causes spams, and reparative jerks in a limb). After learning about Orins victory right before the events of the game, and now confirmed that your brain is damaged as fuck. I imagine my durge to have suffered them post-game at least
If u cast the Level 6th healing spell in Baldurs Gate you can recall some memories (It will be a different memory if you’ve faced Orin already) you may not be able to find out specifics but there are certain points in the story when Durge can briefly recall their memory; The Noblestalk being the other method that you can find early in act 1/Underdark
So his brain would be repaired with that?@@korgclips868
If you’re rejecting Baahl you don’t really need to know your past though so it’s fine
@@Xxsorafan it's a roleplay game, I'm roleplaying
So durge is like the evil version of Wonder Woman?
Yep, it’s exactly like WW.
I love watching your videos!! I can't do evil playthroughs so I love seeing what your Tav has been up to lol
Seconded
Same!
Same I cant do evil playthroughs at all so its fun to see how people who can do evil playthroughs do
I tried accepting Bhaal but Jaheira and Minsc were disappointed with me, broke my heart, then I stepped outside and I'm forced to kill them. I reloaded right away. Can't do it
@@uwu-uv4mg yuuuuup... even for pixels its too freakin brutal man
I have never seen this dialogue before, thank you for the video.
Although I must admit the title is a bit misleading. There wasn't even a mention of a mother. But still, there is the clear explanation of how Durge came to be, sculpted of Bhaal's flesh.
The dialogue option that leads to learning that is "if Bhaal is my father, who is my mother?"
Yeah Durge had an adoptive family that they killed as a child but we don’t learn much of them.
@@waimarieheap5608 more space for headcanon
I wonder if this means Withers alters a resisted Durge's body, since the Urge is gone and he says Bhaal only killed that part of them. Or maybe it doesn't matter if Bhaal doesn't have that hold anymore? I saw some mention of bhaalspawn babies from an evil Durge so now I'm just wondering if Jahiera was right to be worried at the party for my good Durge lol
Given The Dark Urge is sculpted from Bhaal's flesh, would that imply any children born from them are as such, Bhaalspawn? That would be a pretty solid way to bring Bhaalspawn back into the fold should there ever be a Baldur's Gate 4.
I think the really bad ending implies that
@@draconicfeline6177 I looked into it and you're absolutely correct. Pretty neat ending. I mean, really unfortunate, but neat
@@draconicfeline6177the good ending also implies it, when you talk to her at the camp reunion jaheira warns you not to have any children
@@draconicfeline6177bad ending is everyone dies though?
@@SelejXthere is a Version were you embrace Bhaal in the temple but then defy him and destroy the brain anyway. You then have the final choice to either end yourself or to try and defy Bhaal further... the second option however does not go according to plan...
His voice actor must have had a blast xD
"Damaged forever" isn't a thing in D&D. Not with spells which can *recreate a completely destroyed body* and the like.
Those spells are beyond the scope of BG's story, however.
Even HEAL and the noblestalk already restore small parts of DUrges brain
Heh, Level 12 cap is there for a reason 🙂
@@stevebuckley7788 Only for this adventure.
@@aRandomFox00 Except for that true resurrection scroll.
"Mmmrph hrrmm!" 😂😂😂😂
Honestly would it be bad for the only reason why I would serve bhaal is for my own butler
Sceleritas may very well be my favorite butler character to date, despite you know, Baal
"Be true to yourself"
Considering the nuances of those family trees my guess would be their sister
Maybe cousin
Where can i find the room you are in right now? i have never been able to find it.
It's a Camp in Lower City, can get it at Elfsong Tavern (by talking to...)
Up the stairs in the Elfsong Tavern you notice 2 double doors that your Tav will comment on saying something like "you can rent rooms". Physically that is where the "camp is".
Talk to Allyn the tavern/barkeep in front of the kitchens, you can buy it but just pass a persuasion check to get the room for free. It will however become the permanent camp for the Lower City once you speak with him, so make sure you're done exploring and looting the default camp first.
@@spctvl03 Thank you so much !
@@Spirittism yup, you can't get some of the romance dialogues if you don't rest at least two or three times in the Docks camp, (if you came through the other 2 acts with fewer rests...)
@@zoefarr2600could you please tell me what those scenes are? I've never encountered this problem and don't want to in the future 😅
Is the coversation diffrent if you use heal on yourself
dose anyone know what this song's name is?
It is magnificent
Oh good!, you can shut him up!
I thought bhaalspawns are horcruxes of bhaal
Durge is. Normally they were his bastards.
Where can i get the armour?
ua-cam.com/video/Gq7-T2ujsTQ/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
what....what is that house anyway?
The rented room above The Elfsong Tavern.
It becomes your camp in Act 3 once you pay a trivial sum for it.
@@stevebuckley7788 .....thanks. i have about 500 hours in the game and didnt know that.
i wish my true evil durge could romance sceleritas, though i suppose he'd never consider himself worthy of my affections :(