Spiderman 2 Is Kind of Disappointing...
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2023
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we sit down and discuss the hottest Playstation game of the year. Spiderman 2 is a pretty solid experience but still cuts back and plays it incredibly safe. It's fine and definitely quality but it doesn't have nearly the impact the predecessor did. Thanks for watching!
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Muta you cant escape me
yeoo
I know what you did
Disappointing I haven't even played the game
hi
No it isn't.
Also Sniper wolf did nothing wrong.
watch the video first.
Yes it is
Yes it is disappointing
Glazing
With the gadgets , they honestly could’ve gave more gadgets too use , but you would have the option to swap out which 4 you would like to use just like the abilities . Cause I do miss the web grenade .
I mean i get it. They are trying to make them fit for the new ability wheel they implemented
If you upgrade the ricochet web all the way it works the same as the web grenade.
@@JD.ONLINEYeah
@@JD.ONLINEit doesn’t fix how you use them though. I prefer how they worked in the first game because I end up just spamming.
gadgets were beyond op tbh, you can end every fight with web grenade and concussion blast to a wall
The missing suit powers and cutback of gadgets was the first thing I thought of/noticed when I started getting into the game, glad you brought it up, other than that I'm having fun but still don't like when purposeful things get cut back.
I understand the massive cut of gadgets, but what is so great about suit powerups? Almost all of them were completely useless. The only ones I used were quips and web blossom.
And I noticed there were suits missing from the first game and miles morales like the velocity suit and the sports wear suit
I love how Muta isn't afraid to say that the game isn't to his standard even though it has unbelievable hype surrounding it
Edit: Comment war is crazy
no one should afraid of saying his opinion about any game
Still a bad take lmao
@@666slateran666Why because you don't like it?
@@666slateran666bro hasn’t even finished the vid
@@This_Pleases_The_Nutare you on crack look at the hype for this game
my fav feature is the setting to disable Swinging assistance. Forcing you to play with the physics of the web swing, if you have fall damage turned on you notice that your brain will do so much to maintain speed and avoid the ground with every single feature you have.
WAIT THIS IS IN THE GAME???
@@brandonclarke436yes
@@brandonclarke436 Yup, right in the gameplay settings, along with fall damage. It's great.
Oh this is interesting. Honestly didn’t even consider turning off swing assistance. I had the fall damage on so looks like I gotta go in and play around with the other setting.
@@The_GlitchWitch it's so good. The "safety net" around the floor and buildings is removed completely, it feels like a much better swinging system by a mile, it just takes a while to get used to how dangerous it is.
Personally I love the new zip line mechanic for stealth. It changes each scenario to your liking. I wanted that to be in the first game so bad bc I wanted to do certain takedowns but was limited to the layout of the mission.
The set backs in suit powers and gadgets are the only thing I can knock the game for tho.
You mean the batman zip line????
Yeah I liked that unlike the sequel, the first game had gadgets that could help with stealth, like that trip mine gadget
@@JamesDude100 you are so freaking right!
I did miss my impact webbing, but I also enjoyed the zip line web because I could look up after taking down all the guys and have my own spider web that i made with all of my “prey” attached to it.
But those limitations are what make the stealth satisfying. If you can just make a line to wherever you need to be. yeah it feels fun at first, but it eliminates all challenge to encounters.
That (gosh I wish I could go to this certain spot I would ace this) feeling is what we all feel. When you give us that power it becomes boring.
I really hate the writing in Spider Man 2.
Still hate the MJ missions.
One thing the Arkham games always did perfectly was progressing the combat and enemy types with every game. It really helped the new games feel fresh and more interesting.
Yeah and they did not give excuses and reuse map
Arkham series is the best
Just goes to show how perfect the first Spider-Man was
@@Mikx100who cares if the map is reused? If that is what stops you from enjoying a game than you’ll be severely disappointed in many games. Not even sequels I might add, just different devs picking a location and saying this is a 1:1 replica of said location.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogsalso Spiderman 2 is in the exact same place as Spiderman 1 really no point to change the map
The number one disappointing thing for me was how you couldn’t switch to the black suit and one of your normal suits with a button like web of shadows
Edit: mom look I’m famous…
I mean technically you can but not in the way you are thinking lol
@@Meco93he means switching in gameplay and not using a pause screen. What I disliked is that the black suit is literally just a cosmetic since it fought exactly the same as the red suit in this game.
Edit: since some people don’t understand what I’m talking about, the only difference the black suit does is gives you a rage mode. When you’re not in rage mode, you’re exactly the same as red suit spiderman even if you’re wearing the black suit. In web of shadows, the red and black suit had different move sets from each other even without the existence of a rage meter.
I know its not what ur meaning but if you have another suit other than the symbiotes and then go surge mode it switches the suit to the symbiote and then goes back after the surge ends
@@rattus1575homie didn't actually play the game
@@rattus1575what are you yapping abt 💀
As a Sony fan it really hurts to see the might Insomniac fall so far . Hey know what people didnt like ? Yeah lets bring all of that back and make more of it .
Fall so far? You act like they have been ruined and have become a bad company or something. Sure, they made a few questionable game design decisions, but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near a "fall so far."
Sony fan?
@@TroublezAhead00The story is also woke garbage.
@@UnseenHitman-1932😂 throwing woke like that is so stupid
Just beat the main campaign (and achieved the platinum trophy) I would say the game excels in many areas. Traversal feels amazing, the city looks stellar. Combat feels a lot more challenging this time around and the boss fights have been significantly improved. Even the MJ stealth missions have been improved. Putting aside the obvious complaints like bugs and hard crashes, Insomniac seems to have cut alot to accommodate newer game systems. I agree that it feels like a step back in some way. Even simple things like a database is missing. Something that’s pretty standard in games today.
Also, I find it strange that they chose to include more tedious tech puzzles that were heavily criticised in the previous game.
Those tech puzzles don’t feel too bothersome since you can always choose to skip em. I’ve also had the game hard crash on me a couple times, but I think that’s just because of the console itself
No database was wild to me but there rly aren’t as many villains you see in this game like you did in the last one.
Tedious tech minigames ? Man those where ez af in this gam what do you mean😭
@@peckz.That's literally why they are tedious
@@peckz. I never said they were difficult. I said tedious. Plus, if you can skip them, why are they there in the first place.
In my opinion, I can always be cool with a short game if it's good enough to keep you replaying it every now and then.
I agree. My favourite game is Arkham City and the main story is only about 5-6 hours long. But that doesn't bother me because the story, characters and side missions are very well written and acted. The gameplay is very fun and engaging with a lot of depth in the combat. The world is full of lore and secrets that add so much replayability. It and Spider-Man 2 are great games.
It's not short it's over 30 hours unless you don't wanna enjoy the whole game
Yea Ross that’s the point. Game feels filled to the brim with forced shit that could’ve been better spent with a third game or a second Miles one.
Insomniac is a brain dead developer, they excel in graphics, but all of their mechanics come from other games, chiefly previous Spiderman games that were actually good. Their story beats all come from the Spiderman movies, their aesthetics from the movies. They'll never experiment or take risks because they don't know how to think for themselves. No imagination as a developer from what I've played and seen of their games.
@@winniebagel2185 ???
It’s definitely a safe sequel but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it 🤷🏾♂️
This game had tons of broke that needed fixing be serious 💀
Sounds like every CoD and sports game.
Like what
if it aint broke just play the first one again
they 'fixed' mary jane.
Everyone realizing that mutahar cooked here . Speaking the truth but the soyny fans were blinded by wanting to like the game despite it having flaws
I agree with the costume criticism for sure. But i think they didnt want to create more for Miles lol. Because this stood out to me in the Miles game. They wouldve had to create even more specials or buffs. But i would say i wouldve took less costumes if they were given purpose. Just give us the option to change colors and all wouldve been good in tht department
The removal of the weapon wheel and having only 4 gadgets is in my opinion one of the best decisions they made for this game. In the first one, I must have spent 50% of the duration of every fight sat in the weapon wheel wondering which gadget I was going to use next, because there were far too many, and it broke the immersion so much. On top of that, most of them were OP as fuck. Having just 4 to choose from which can be used as seamlessly as the quick fire gadgets in Arkham knight just makes combat much more streamlined. I do agree though that stealth has lost some of that variety by removing all those gadgets. Having the trip mine would’ve been a treat.
Glad you feel that way but i definitely disagree with less gadgets
i think exactly the same as you bud, weapon wheels shouldnt be a thing, no matter the game, it breaks the whole fcking immersion.
While I do agree that gadget wheel hinders the flow of combat, the lack of it shouldn’t be an excuse to include fewer gadgets for a sequel.
A better way would’ve been to introduce combo key(s) similar to Arkham games and/or assigning four gadgets of choice to four gadget slots (with predefined action keys). There are many ways quick action gameplay have been approached from 20 years ago, none of them include cutting back gameplay variety.
Counterpoint: because the gadgets were all so good, the choice between them didn't matter enough to take your time to pick the "perfect" one for the situation. You could quickly go from gadget to gadget just based on ammo count and enjoy the flow of combat.
Edit: stealthing gives you the time to decide on approach anyways so it's not immersion breaking to see Spiderman go through his gadget list while methodically taking out a bunch of bad guys
@@farjammovahedi4057 i just think these days everybody is looking for the bad aspects of modern games, instead look the good things, this sequel is better than the first game in almost every aspect. Just compare the quality of this game with recent releases, while the competition needs loading times to move the character over the map, this beauty just gave us the best graphics of the year without a single loading screen and a refreshed gameplay. This game is a 10/10 for me.
Aside from some cool set pieces, somewhat better visuals, what else can they really improve?
Exactly they perfected the gameplay in the 1st game not much u can improve
The only problem is some of the open world activities for me personally
Maybe if you watched the video first you would find out
better story or new cool mechanics? this is literally the same all over again and ppl finally start seeing through this bullshit. why cant you entre at least 50% houses? why they wont make VENOM game about symbiotes, some evil grim dark game with Knull. why wont they do just literally different hero like daredevil, venom, deadpool or game about CABLE when you go back in time or in the different alternate timelines. you have so much content and lore and yet they keep doing the same shit for 5 years since 2018
The side content I'd say they should do more meaningful side quests tied to certain villains. Kinda like what Arkham Knight did instead of just go around the map and clear out all these objectives
Ugly MJ, changed Peter, added scripting (not to even mention how bad the acting is) for diversity, and *_Spiderman flying???_* Idk man, it kinda ruined the game for me.
She gone hopefully ben Jordan is next
I agree with Muta here. Also, you didn't mention that:
There is no new game+ or ability to replay missions. Once you're done, you're done.
There is no option to change the time of day in epilogue.
As someone who just loved swinging around the epilogue and doing spider stuff this was super disappointing
There will be a new game plus cmon now. It’s just not released yet. Lots of games do it
NG+ modes always gets released after launch of the game and it takes time too, GOWR took 6 months for its NG+ to be released
@veeeb came out on launch for Miles Morales, FF7R, etc. Doesn't always come out after launch. Game was great but doesn't feel as finished as either of its predecessors
And now wouldnt you look at it
@@DiaomBayet it took them 5 months... and the game is still buggy...
This game has been everything that I expected and everything I wanted so far. I wasn't expecting a complete evolution of the gameplay when they already nailed the formula in the first game.
Yeah it's quite literally a perfect sequel, they only made stuff better, I personally will not be able to play the previous games ever again
Exactly my expectations were met idk what everyone else wanted, if anything future insomniac marvel games revolving around other characters like Wolverine,Hulk,Daredevil and so on is where they can start expanding into new more complex formulas they already perfected spiderman
@@pieck5460We need new Ghost Rider & Deadpool games 🤌🤌🔥💯
Modern gamers being perfectly happy buying a brand new product that has cut features from the previous one and then huffing copium in the comments when somebody points out their displeasure. But hey, the game has great graphics and a by the books Marvel story, so it's automatically a masterpiece.
@@SubTonic
1. What was cut beside some minor features that aren’t key to the game as a whole?
2. This is not a normal marvel story lol
the only bad thing is that you cant keep playing as evil peter parker
Was he rlly even evil it feels like tom Holland as the black suit
Its too safe. Feels like a generic modern game. Mj being a ''girl boss'' by making all the men look dumb and incompetent definitely doesn't help.
Red flag
I disagree. This game has so many amazing moments. Like when Black Cat made an appearance to tell us how she is a lesbian. And when Spiderman lectured some criminals about how guns are bad, and people need to replace guns with compliments. Really powerful stuff. Definitely 10/10.GOTY.
On second thought, they didnt make Black Cat playable. Probably because she's a lesbian. Which makes Insomniac bigots. So 1/10. Gameplay and story was ok.
As long as the story's writing is as good as the last one I'm happy
and to me the problem with games is stroy. ive never liked a game due to the story. i love madden but theres no inherit story, the story is built through the match. same with call of duty and other competition based games. i dont see the point of playing a game just to essentially watch a cgi scene. i cant enjoy a game if im not emotionally invested in the match , and for me that manifests through competition.
Ong tired of this graphic and gameplay talk and how it needs “improving”. The first game and miles had amazing and fun gameplay I don’t see the problem there
@@possiblyinsane6995tbh how the first game did it was half cutscene and half gameplay.
You people wouldn't know a good story if it hit you with a rocket
@@Codemeister1105a good Spider-Man story then I should know because I actually read comics 🗿
Muta tomorrow: Why I love spiderman 2
No
We'll see
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Honestly I agree I just played it a week ago and tbh it was disappointing to say the least
Womp womp
@@kevinreyes1145 what’s the matter? Can’t handle my opinion grow up
@@krys7643 obviously not just yours. look at his other comments.
My favorite thing with this game and some others is the fact that building windows genuinely have some depth, not just a very low-quality jpeg or constant blinds to cover up whats inside.
When you are swinging around and seeing the different environments in the windows, it gives it more of a real, detailed touch.
Fun fact, the windows of the buildings are actually 2D textures slapped on the windows, but they use a special technique that uses parallax and perpective to create an optical illusion of depth. Not a criticism, just a cool tidbit I learned recently.
@@syrup3438its really not that special. Been around for over a decade. You literally just make a texture bigger than the UV map and move the texture proportional to player camera within a bounding.
The first time I saw this effect was in the Forza Horizon series iirc
They don't do that technique for windows anymore in Spiderman 2, instead they use raytracing to reflect invisible interiors that are hidden deep underneath the map. (It's a pretty unique way of using raytracing.)
I’d love to call it depth, but not one person reacts to a single thing you do.. npc sitting in a warped box listening to headphones, but posed like they’re watching tv but it isn’t even on😂
I guess this game didn't capture the exaggerated swagger of a black teen
Lmao
Maybe it's just me but other than a few cool ones, the first game gives you the best power from the jump which not only helped you heal but also do more of the finishing moves faster. But the fact the options were there showed what you could do and more from your arsenal.
Web blossom pre nerf was broken op and would annihilate any room could get that basically at the beginning, another that's op was the refill gadget one
@@theninja2k14Just played the 1st one before the 2nd one came out and honestly web blossom is still op in the first 1.
@@theninja2k14 yeah web blossom is still the best ability
As a PlayStation fan and someone who platinumed Spider-Man 1,
everything I see about the story makes me just want to ignore this game exist
Honestly don’t even have any excitement for the Wolverine game anymore
Hey I've bought a ps4 recently. I was wondering do I have to do all task master challenges to get the platinum trophies?
Drone and the baby challenges give me trouble 😅
Okay wonderful it’s not like people care about
Bruh
after playing spiderman 2 you just cant play the first game its boring
12:40 The enemies having zero peripheral vision killed my immersion. I'd be at eye level with someone on the second vertical layer of the hideout but they wouldn't see me because I was on a webline, or webbing someone up and having them hang practically next to someone on the ground who would'nt notice...this was on spectacular btw.
I agree with muta on the suit power criticism. I don’t necessarily mind too much that they’re gone, but I do think there are suits we could have lost in favor of having all the suits come with powers. While the gadget change is one that takes getting used to, I think that was a product of them wanting to have the powers for miles with his venom and Peter with his arms/symbiote. Having all those powers plus all the gadgets from that last game would have had things maybe a little too overwhelming perhaps and would’ve led to some people not using some powers. Like I said it’s a change that takes getting used to, and even I wasn’t all for it at first, but I’ve grown to enjoy it. At the end of the day I can understand people calling it a safe sequel, but I believe enough mechanics were improved to validate the scores it’s getting online. For me personally, it is everything I expected and wanted from a spiderman sequel
I also think the suit selection was kinda meh. I mean look at the 2018 game. It had different suits from different comic, movies, and all kinds of media. This game has good suits but it feels like they only added fan service ones and the recolors weren’t really all that. Still glad for the tasm 2 suit tho
@@spoodermanrealI agree with you, I liked more of the og comic suits. And yeah im rocking tasm2 suit a lot recently :)
Same
@aladarfromhyrule should’ve been styles for each actor. Like Tom should have his nwh, ffh, and homecoming suit in one suit
this will be like tlou2, any criticism will be called invalid and homophobic by r/gamingcirclejerk
Spider-Man 2 is a safe sequel but it's definitely not a disappointment
It's not its valid!!!!
It's a huge disappointment
the game is awesome! It is perfect. The only disappointment is that you can't re-play missions!@@daksans6764
@@daksans6764idk how y'all can say that. This is easily the best spiderman game from insomniac
@@2kool4u_mac67 It's boring and buggy
the web lines works both ways for players and dev, giving player to have more freedom in performing stealth takedown and the dev can be more creative in level design. however, my problem with SM2 stealth is more leaning towards the technical side (camera angles or web zip to wall cursor being very janky and i'd still prefer SM1's UI when doing stealth)
And yet everyone gave God of war a 10 out of 10 when it was the exact same game, people just pick and choose I swear
Aye I said that about Ragnarok still do 1st and last Sony exclusive I'll buy without seeing gameplay from now on. Really felt like a I bought a $70 expansion.
The difference is this was a downgrade instead of just the same thing
Ragnarok was double the length of 2018 spiderman 2 is a bit shorter than the first.
Spiderman 2 was repetitive af. It wasn't a bad game but I EXPECTED MORE from the story and side missions...
I really loved Spiderman 2 and was waiting for it for a long time but I have to say that wrapping up the story in 16h for me was a lot disappointing, but it's refreshing to get back to a spidey game
Plus the wing suit is really fun lol
First game story was the same length though right? I feel like 16 hours is a good length for test story
The*
Exactly. I'm sick of games expecting 50+ hours out of me. I truly do want shorter games with worse graphics. @@Pedrotheterrapin1734
@@Pedrotheterrapin173416 hours is good, not too long, but to price it at 70 pounds (which I assume is like 80 something dollars) is REALLY steep
The big big disappointment is MJ’Face
The story/writing was a big disappointment as compared to the first game…
Ngl, I feel like Peter gets bodied easier than usual in this game. Could be because he’s getting tired of being Spiderman. Dude was throwing hands with the sinister 6 alone for a bit in the first game
Yeah bro is getting older and I’m glad they let bro relax and have a break for once
Lmao too bad.
Every cutscene had Peter being slammed or crush into something
Yea, it was weird how much of a punching bag he was this game but then again he's Spider-Man so he'll eventually get back up.
IKR. Peters was actually getting pounded this game
I honestly really like how they simplified the gadgets. I would never mess with gadgets before because i felt it took me out of the game to mess with the wheel. I feel it doesnt work with spiderman because its more fast paced than ratchet and clank. Ive used gadgets now more than i ever have before
I love how they simplified the gadgets, I really just wish that they had multiple options for each of the slots like how the powers work, it just felt a little off but it was still nice.
i wish the gadgets were skills now instead, like the one that pulls everyone in makes spiderman do a move where he just pulls everyone in and stuff like that
Ong l never used them.
Yep a shit ton of boring gadgets replace with 4 fun useful gadgets. Quality over quantity. Imo most of the old gadgets were a cool idea but didn’t really fit into the combat loop in a fun way
I also don't know how this is a step down from the older games gameplay wise. I literally opened up spiderman ps4 today just to replay it a bit and the gameplay feels so raw and repetitive compared to the new game because you lack a bunch of combo moves early and the traversal feels really slow and on the hardest difficulty this game is a cake walk compared to the new one. I like the flashy combat now, it used to be tedious to fight hordes of enemies in the old ones and using the same moves over and over instead of using combos into finishers into special moves and using the gadgets too. Just way more fleshed out. People are sayin its a step down because of nostalgia but if you replay the old ones it just feels a bit dull by comparison
I miss the 2018 game better story
why does spiderman need to juggle a basic human/henchman forever to beat him? the combat is super tedious
This game for me as I just finished 100% 10 minutes ago, is a solid 8.5/10. As you said it’s definitely a safe sequel. Insomniac knows we love what they’ve done with the first game and MM so it’s no question they’d deliver more of the same with this sequel. The weakest point for me as someone who loves the Spiderman universe is the lack of notable villains, outside of Venom of course. It really seems they held out on a lot for whenever the next game comes out. We really only have 2 villains present in this game, being Kraven and Venom. As much as I personally like Kraven, he just isn’t a very strong villain when coming after the Sinister 6 and Martin Li of the first game. This ultimately just leads Kraven to be completely overshadowed and downright forgotten once Venom takes the stage. The lack of suit powers was also a minor gripe but I personally didn’t mind as the abilities and gadgets, as well as the way combat has been improved overall made them feel not needed. Overall a great game, and can’t wait for whenever they eventually bring out Spiderman 3 as the potential villain (and hero) roster they’ve teased in this game definitely has me more hyped than I was for Venom.
I wouldn't say the first game really had the sinister 6, since they were only really there for 2 missions, but I'm 99% sure they'll be the big bad in the next one using the context in this game
@@SonOfSparda03 but, alot of the Sinister Six in SM1 are gone tho
Kraven killed both Vulture and Scorpion
Phin allegedly killed Rhino
Sandman, Tombstone, Lizard and Mysterio gave up on Evil
there's not alot left
I'd say maybe go full deep into DLCs of Peter's younger self and have him fight some of the baddies then
@@kyanzennaro2290Kraven also killed Electro and Shocker
@@sakyajitmitra really? You got a video showing that? I didn't know
@@kyanzennaro2290 Don't got a vid but you can see memorials for Electro and Shocker in the same mission where you find out the fate of Vulture. Kraven says Shocker fought till his dying breath and Electro's fight was disappointing to him.
I'm with you on the gadgets part I just beat Spider-Man 1 a day before 2 dropped and I spammed the shit out of the web bombs/ Trip mines/ Spider drones
Bro the web bomb and trip mines were my favorite. Sooo good I was so disappointed when I saw those were not in this one. I mean the gadgets are cool but the trip mine was so cool for stealth. That would’ve made it a tad bit better for me
Web bombs were so fun to use.
I think that was kinda the problem with the first game as the gadgets could absolutely trivialize the combat at times. Same with the way miles venom powers were tied to the focus bar in the second one.
I mean I don't know about you guys but the first game was kinda just too easy. I thought I was hot shit bc I beat it on spectacular with only 2 to 3 deaths. Yeah that was the gadgets fault. I would completely desimate a room full of thirty people in less than 30 seconds with nothing but a web bomb and a concussion blast. While it was cool and all, it gave me way too much false confidence for any combat system outside of that game lol. As soon as I realized I was actually going to have to learn how to string moves together and react to the enemies I got excited. Idk maybe that's just me though.
@@whenallelsfails21 same with the false confidence. I actually had a problem with no being able to use the gadgets fast enough in encounters plus, suit mods could be tuned to generate more focus from gadgets AND have finisher generate more gadgets creating this loop of “use gadget then use finisher.” Absolutely busted. Loved the first two games but they needed balance badly. I liked this change.
People defending the length are just massively coping with spending +$70 hrs on a short game, quite predictable tbh.
If this were any other game they would've been fuming about a 15-20hr campaign lol. Recency bias the true plague to gaming
@@platnumbreaker100%
How did u get a physical copy of deluxe edition? I couldnt find one
I feel like my only complaint so far is how many bugs I’ve come across. Biggest I’ve seen is hitting prompts before it tells you to (like hitting triangle to interact with something before it gives you the prompt) it’ll just glitch out and won’t let you interact with it anymore and have to restart from a checkpoint. Same with sandman Crystal challenges when you get to the end, if you press LT and RT to break the Crystal too early, spiderman will just freeze in place while everything else keeps going
Happened to me too but only once even with the 38 gb patch they didn’t patch that
Have you encountered the Tofu bug?
@@lonewanderer9876 I have not yet, mind describing what it is so I can try to avoid it? lmao
I had no bugs 😅
@user-iy5ji1uy2c I don't know if you can avoid it, but sometimes your character model transforms into a small white tofu block, possibly after you play the game for too long😂
Personally I think the extra Combat Abilities are a good replacement for extra gadgets, they feel very smooth and is much more efficient for damaging multiple enemies at once and has a cooltown timer which forces you to play strategic during combat. I honestly hope they give us DLCs for the game, I'd love to see them.
It's interesting how his two criticisms of the lack of suit powers and the removal of the gadgets were both things that I never noticed as those were the two things I never used or cared about in the first game. I can definitely see how the game would be disappointing if you really liked those mechanics only to find that they've been removed/reduced.
tbh it's even more of a disappointment when you found out you can switch to the black suit like web of shadows, and when your done with the game you don't keep the black suit.ik it wouldn't make sense but should have the suit available to use.
@@Deviant-Strategic-Assassins I mean you get all the abilities back near the end of the game, you just can't change the color to black.
ive read this comment multiple times and im still not sure what youre trying to say, if im being honest. however if youre saying you cant switch to the black suit at the end of the game, well you actually can. you can switch to both the black suit and the symbiote suit and even the anti venom suit. @@Deviant-Strategic-Assassins
@@Deviant-Strategic-Assassinswhat are you talking about? You do get the black suit back again once you beat the game as well as the symbiote suit
@@demetriuseanthey updated the game at first you didnt
In my opinion I honestly love what they did with the gameplay, graphics, and overall playstyle of this game. I see the gameplay as an upgrade of spiderman ps4 and miles morales and i see the graphics and visuals as absolutely flawless; insomniac definitely went above and beyond to really showcase what the ps5 is capable of. As for the play-style of spider-man 2, it’s very different but in a good way. They may have removed the gadget wheel which allows for more combat and stealth options but they compensated greatly with how the new combat and stealth system works. Since miles morales uses two powers that peter cant, which is bio electricity and camouflage, they incorporated a balanced system of power ups for both spidermen. Peter has his venom while miles has his (also venom) electricity. In addition, i think the web line is a great innovation to the stealth aspect of the game since it adds a very spider-like manner to how spiderman takes down enemies. Other than that, not much has been changed from the original playstyle of the ps4 version except for the traversal features, new powerups like surge mode, and new combat moves including parries. Alot of great improvements and great new features have been added but the one thing i mainly look for that makes or breaks a video game, movie or tv show is the story and i gotta say, it definitely could have been better. Its not bad by any means but i feel like the story was rushed and was also very predictable due to cliche and somewhat lazy writing. The characters and villains were cool and the boss fights were amazing especially the lizard boss fight and the scene where venom goes on a rampage; but it just wasnt as intense and it didn’t have as much suspense or emotion as the first game. Throughout the whole game it feels like they forcefully tried to build on peter and harrys bond so that the end of the game will be much more impactful (harrys death, which could have been prevented) but it just doesn’t compare to when aunt may died. In spiderman ps4, peter had the biggest choice to make which is to choose between aunt mays life which is all the family he has left, or save the world which is what spiderman stands for. It was a perfect narrative that was full of suspense and conflict that focuses on peters life as a student/intern, nephew, and spiderman. Its the spiderman story of saving people, fighting bad guys and being responsible with given power that we all known and love in the form of a game. spiderman 2 tweaked that concept by a little bit and was close to pulling off a good plot but not quite. Another area they could’ve improved on was the character development with miles. It was a clear weakness throughout the game which felt like the writers attempted to have success in but their efforts were insignificant when it came to the results. Miles was supposed to be the one to free peter after he was affected by the symbiote but the buildup up until the fight was lousy and his motive and inner feelings he had about the death of his father and martin lee felt forced and crammed into the story. Also, what was up with whole mj plot armor? She survived like 50 near-death encounters with only a stun gun and still managed to come out unharmed😂Her subplot which is about her fight with peter as a symbiote was also a weird turn because it was supposed to represent her negative feelings towards her relationship with peter but it just came off as uncomfortable and uneasy. Again, it seemed forced and rushed for it to be included but i do appreciate that they did some fan service by making it clear that the villain is actually Scream from the comics and old tv show. I feel like this story was more underwhelming and it didn’t have as clear of a theme as the first one did. However, it is still a good game and it definitely has replay-ability and some fun moments. I will definitely play it again in the new game+ mode and I would also recommend it to anyone who wants a fun thrilling experience out of a visually pleasing and action packed game. I would rate the game a 7/10
If they gave us player choices like in Web of Shadows, I’d be all up for it. That said, they should have never brought back the MJ sections because it was insufferable in the first game.
Oh fuck they’re in this game too?
What did them not being fun in the first game? Have anything to do with this game? You know, they've been improved, right? Or are we just gonna try to pretend that? That's not the case and just rewrite reality.
It was intense and horrifying running away from symbiote peter when MJ was stuck in the tunnels though
Nah the MJ sections in this game were amazing 100x better than the first game. First game felt boring, here you can actually fight back, especially with the upgrades she gets.
Don't talk about Peter's mother like that.
Play one Spiderman game you've played them all
LOL YOU ARE RIGHT
They did peter so dirty in this game
After beating the game I agree with you.
That’s a very bold and logical take, and I’ll have to agree. Wished they kept the gadgets and innovated on the web swinging more.
They innovated enough. You can only innovate so much when it was pretty much already perfect tbf
@justingovas415 Cool. You don’t share the opinion of the comment you responded to. Keep pushing lil bro
@@GDKF0238That's the point of a discussion.
@@GDKF0238lmfao people that take that stance are so wild, if you dont agree with the comment that he made, you could have kept pushing as well but u fuckin didnt😂😂😂people are free to agree with and disagree with people online dude, dont try to shut the conversation down just cuz someone expresses something you disagree with, u gotta listen to both sides to formulate a real opinion
If you play with swing assist off the web swinging is loads more immersive and harder
Damn, the shortest honeymoon phase in gaming
Not really
The hype is dying so fast that it's even a worse case than God of War Ragnarok and Halo Infinite; at least the hype surrounding those games lasted for two weeks or a month I believe, before everyone came to the realization that those games were either bad sequels or average with a nice coat of paint.
@@MangoEnjoyer456it was installing in that vid, now he’s played it.
Starfield was far worse
@@MangoEnjoyer456just checked no video of that
It feels like a love-letter to my childhood memories of the original Spiderman video games. I'm so glad insomniac has this I.P., I think the trilogy is in good hands. Also, this is the type of criticism from Mutahar that I love to see. I think his criticisms provoke constructive and healthy discussions about how to improve on this type of game genre as a whole.
you only feel this way because you’re biased. embarrassing
@@heavenshound6775Being mad because some isn't praising your favorite game is wild.
I say they just pulled a zelda
They changed some content after a dlc became so big they resold the game as a whole new game. Nothing actually improved substance wise.
@@thegoldenatlas753so its safe to say you havent touched the game at all?
@@thegoldenatlas753Have you even watched gameplay on the spider-man or zelda games?
I think that since there is 8 abilities for both characters. There should have been 8 gadgets split among both characters. And like abilities,you can switch them out so you can choose how you approach gameplay
I miss the old gadgets and the time slow when using the menu. It wasn't to pause or make it easier, but once I had played enough and combat was easy I used it more to choreograph the fights or set up sick looking gadget combos. It was always funny to me how the first Spider-Man was a better gadget hero game than the Arkham games.
So to comment on the suit powerups, I'm sure the reason it's not in this game is because it's wasn't really a sought after feature in the original one. Out of all the reviews or retrospectives for spiderman ps4, Muta is the only one I know to even comment about it. Because the vast majority of people don't really care about that and just want more suits. That's why I do side content, dlc, etc. I want all the different suits, the power ups are just an added bonus but not needed.
@@ChudersonI agree
Yup. Suits as skins and webs only because no way I'm slowing combat to open a wheel. That's how I played previous games. I'm not gonna say he's wrong since that's his takeaway from the game but I honestly liked the changes. If they do more I hope those changes stick.
Yeah I honestly forgot they existed haha
@@ChudersonI’m assuming your talking about web blossom haha that shit was so overpowered that insomniac nerfed it lol.
Same, i only used like two suit powers in the og game, quips and the web blossom.
Can't imagine buying this for $70. It was such a lukewarm experience
When this video first came out I disagreed but right now I pretty much feel the same
Same here was spitting and I didn’t realize it…game was meh
One of the things I appreciate about this game is that I can play it on the hardest difficulty and kinda struggle but not really compared the spiderman PS4 where I could play on the ultimate difficulty with one hand. I also enjoy the parrying because it changes it up from just dodging under enemies and killing them in mid air
I agree. It brings an actual challenge instead of ultimate being a cakewalk in the 2018 game
True! I haven’t played ultimate yet on Spider-Man 2 yet, spectacular was a lot more challenging this time
Kill?
@Walamonga1313 I'm sorry, paralyzed from the neck down in a coma
@@PlaystationPlaythrough420 That's more in line with superheroes kek
You can tell most people getting mad didn’t even watch the video and just saw the title
Blame "Sweet Baby Inc"
Is anyone else irritated about how Insomniac deliberately weakened/nerfed Peter?
**spoilers**
He lost to almost every major boss in the game. Kraven should never have been able to beat Spiderman. Miles should never have been able to beat Symbiote-Spiderman. In every single arc of the game, Peter was subdued and had to be saved by someone. Harry, MJ, Miles, Yuri, etc. all saved him in some way. It was a reoccurring theme throughout the entire game. Even in the dialogue Peter talks about how much Miles doesn't need him. Wtf?
Peter is Miles' mentor and *the* Spiderman. How is it that Miles never once lost a fight the entire game? We don't actually see Peter mentor Miles on anything. Miles - a teenager - is portrayed as the better Spiderman and wiser person the entire game. He's a Gary Stu who is perfect and doesn't make mistakes. It wouldn't have been as irritating if Peter saved Miles/MJ several times also, but no. Peter really comes across as a burden despite being in his prime and having far more experience fighting and saving people than a teenager.
Heck, even gameplay wise, I'd prefer playing as Miles over pre-Symbiote Peter.
Spiderman 2 was a good game. But as a sequel, it's disappointing.
They didn't do anything new with the black suit storyline they didn't take any huge risks like Peter killing Kraven or something like that. Thats my biggest complaint about the game imo.
The game was rated T they couldn’t go overboard sadly
Found out that this person is a Starfield meatrider in the other comments
@@lazyvoid7107Oh my god do you really keep track of people who comment? 😂 Thats some sad $hit
Nigga they made miles vs peter
@@TUNAKUHdid he kill miles? Yeah, that's the point.
ive been enjoying the game on ps5, the movement feels faster and the expanded map feels massive when just swinging around. ive got about 23 hours in it or so and have almost 100% the game and so far ive not had any noticeable bugs. id agree that its a safe sequel but its good. ive enjoyed playing it and doing everything. (I didnt 100% spider man 1 or miles Morales because they just were more tedious but something about this one feels good)
True to Life New-York? Where are all the hobos and crack-den tents?
Where is the trash?
My only real huge problem with this game is the balance between both Spider-man. I love Miles but it was awful to see how overpowered Miles was in the entire game and how dirty Insomniac did Peter in the game. Like they didn't even hided the favoritism towards Miles. Everything else (gameplay,characters,open world,length) except that was good. Well maybe they could've given us more new villains, we really only had Venom and Kraven which is ridiculously few compared to the Sinister 6 and Otto in the first game. Sure we had Wraith too but she's not really a villain
80 usd for the same game with another story, yeah, that’s the industry nowadays
i more or less agree but my biggest problem with the game was the story, it felt like it had no focus and the writers really don't like peter since he gets bodied all the time and miles having to save him constantly.
Peter getting bodied by everyone physically and emotionally seems to be the trend with marvel nowadays.
I mean... Peter getting bodied IS the essence of the Venom arc. To make him feel weak and helpless, to given him the NEED to stay on that suit.
They probably needed an excuse to hand Spider-Man off the Miles, unfortunately. But is it not kind of the underlying point of the game that Peters kind of tired of being Spider-Man?
@bottomlefto have you read the comics? Peter gets bodied all of the time. It's part of his character
@@Meco93 the idea was that peter comes out of it stronger, learns from his suffering to be better. you tell me what new lesson these newer runs have taught him, what one more day has taught him, if any, that hasn't been touched upon before?
I definitely enjoyed the first game more
Just finished it. The combat and traversal are a lot of fun, but my god… the story is so bad 😭
Agreed. The story is so bad. Literally trash. Crazy how starfield and red dead 2 have better story. Insomniac is a mid company batman better
Crazy how nobody complains this game is a DLC to previous titles, while ToTK got so much hate for being a "DLC" of BoTW 💀
People think a similar game nowadays means "DLC" lmaoo. Literally how is Spiderman 2 a DLC? A whole new story, new map regions, 2 playable characters, new suits, Venom in the game.. Of course a literal sequel will be similar to the game before it but does not mean it's DLC.
Who was saying this?
The suit powers and the lack of enemy strongholds are like the only 2 valid criticisms I’ve really seen so far on this game. And maybe the length of the story aswell yeah. Story felt very short but as mentioned it’s because the game lets you just speed the story without any side stuff. This game is super easy to speed run.
The gadget cut I’m actually a fan of. That weapons wheel was whack. They shoulda gave Miles and Peter different gadgets to use tbh. Miles from the Prowler since Aaron is retired and Peter with his own Spider gadgets.
Also the combat in this game is fun for me. They added enough follow ups to old moves that the combat flows even better for me.
Stealth i feel was never a heavy spider-man thing; he’s not Batman. But they did make it too easy. But it wasn’t hard or special in Miles game either. I do like how enemies in this game will notice enemies are out and crowd together so you can’t pick them off as easy.
For me it’s an easy 8/10 and a step forward in terms of everything else.
The suit powers are goddamn awesome, only gripe for me is that they kinda invalidate the previous powers lol
Also don't know what you mean with the enemy strong hold
@@jeffboy4231 there are no suit powers, and the "enemy strongholds" are knocked down to WAY less, mostly just the small "bases" which are about the same as your basic crimes. that's what they meant.
@@Choryrth yeah I missunderstood what they meannt with suit powers. But now that I know still shit take, they are goddamn cosmetics, they shouldn't have gameplay behind them that's just dumb.
Also the bases are fine, there's even some really big ones? They definitely aren't worse than PS4 o es
@@jeffboy4231 It gave you something to look forward to with all suits, even ones you wouldn’t usually like but has a fun quirk tied to it. But it adds customization to your playthrough more, and is a fun call back to comic history with some of the abilities used. I can understand why they miss this lack of suit abilities.
Bases like the Roxxon group was some of the funnest content of the game because it basically acts like a stealth and assault arena all in one and repeatable. Most similar to like Batman challenge maps
@@jeffboy4231 I think they should have made it a passive skill slot and unlocking suits gives you the passive skill of that respective suit based off it's historical background that you can choose to equip but it's not locked to one suit.
When Muta posted this video, I saw the video title and just wrote it off as a rare Muta L, even though I hadn’t yet played the game. I absolutely loved Spider-Man 1 and Miles morales, so i really didn’t see any way I wouldn’t absolutely love SM2. But shit, I Just finished Spider-Man 2 and I am now tasting the bitter Justice that comes from judging a book by its cover. I disregarded Muta’s opinion because of the video title, and i pre-assumed that I loved the game because it was titled Spider-Man. Decent game, but has so many glaring flaws it makes my head spin. Why are symbiotes so difficult for Spider-Man to defeat even though Mary Jane can one shot them with a headshot from her taser gun? Why can’t OP black Spider-Man catch Mary Jane when he chases her through a narrow tunnel? Why is symbiote Mary Jane a boss battle instead of literally any other commonly known and well loved villain in Spider-Man lore? Why does venom have a spider logo on his chest, even though he doesn’t do anything spider-related? Why the fuck does venom grow wings? I could go on but I’m just pissed. The swinging and gliding is fun though
This game feels more like an action beat em up focused take on the spiderman formula with the increased enemy count and skill sets for both spiderman that everything else feels only minor in improvement if at all.
For stealth i think itd be cool if they kept things like the webline, web bombs (almost like trippable mines), gave you a limited amount of weblines to use would prolly make ya think alil more for the stealth segments ( although miles invisibility kinda trivializes alot ig).
I still had alot of fun with this game, definitely a game worth playing, i just missed alot more of the expansive tools you could use that didnt involve how hard you could punch someone
Anothe problem I have with the game, is that I struggle to remember Peter beating a single villain in it. He literally gets his ass kicked by everyone, has to be saved all the time and even in the side quests this happen lol. Like ... He's the title character, give him a moment to shine wtf.
what about miles?.... is this a woke thing curious
@@zorastin Miles pretty much beats everyone, except this one time where he get's beaten up and taken hostage, but what he does next easily trumps that little fumble. The game is very inconsistent with character's powers and relies heavily on plot convenience.
thanks for the response.hmm it sounds rather expensive for a shorter experience. i thinks thats what would annoy me the most tbh. its moot point either way as i am on pc.
Did we play the same game?
he almost killed kraven bro
Why do i feel like I'm the only one that didnt really care about suit powers that much, and while I liked the gadgets in Spiderman 1 they felt way too powerful and made combat a breeze a lot of the time, I think the scale down on the gadgets was a good choice since they actually feel more intutitive to me and more like a support than your main attack.
ive never used the suit powers ever i unlock them just for the cosmetics i feel like some of his opinions are not shared by everyone and you can see how insomniac was listening to criticism ppl found the stealth boring and tedious.
A lot of the suit powers to me felt pointless. Some were cool but I remember using the anti gravity suit power and being massively disappointed with how unfun it was. And considering they would have needed to have made a different suit power for ALL OF THEM I could actually care less they didn’t bother with it
Could you say this was the same concept from when they made Spider-man on the ps1 to Spider-man 2: Enter Electro in terms of mechanics?
Game was a 9/10 after 100% completion there isn’t much to do. But calling it mid is a crime.
I have to agree with the weapons. The lack of the Ratchet & Clank style weapon select / weapon variety really feels like we're being forced to use the new gimmics of the characters. Part of Peter's identity in the first game was his ingenuity to make new tools to highten his combat ability and that takes a back seat in order for the symbiote to make him feel OP and I'm not sure if I'm going to like that long term. It kind of reminds me of the bite sized R&C games Insomniac made on the PS3 in between the bigger titles to try out new experiments with the IP to see how they stick. I can appreciate that for a 5 hour game. But having that in a full fat 30+ hour game is where I start doubting their direction to a slight degree. I still think it deserves its 91% meta though. It's so rare that my only complaint is that things are slightly different than I want rather than the usual dumpster fire that can blue screen my PC the way Bethesda games have historically been murdering my hardware.
Valid! Tho there are always two sides to a coin. While I agree with Peter's essence being more fitting to that previous system given your points... I just didn't care about it. If I have to slow down the combat in order to use something I'm just not gonna. This meant that, outside of forced moments, Spiderman 1/Morales was me using webs only and it's only now that I get to finally use more, rather than feeling like I'm forced to only webs.
For that reason it's a change I personally enjoy, since it benefits me. Tho I do think it's weird that they gave base Peter nothing on L3+R3. I get that they want to sell the feeling of him being weaker pre-symbiote but I feel like he should have had that suit power from spiderman 1 final battle or something related to those gadgets.
gimmicks*
I liked the new web system, it felt more fluid to use in combat compared to slowing down time to switch and use a different web.
It's Spiderman lol
@@hazamax2139 A compromise can be made with the current gadget system. Retain all of the original gadgets from the PS4 game but this time you're allowed to use 4 at a time instead of one that way you won't have to always open the gadget wheel mid-combat as you can bind your favorite gadget to four slots while at the same time if you happen to run out of ammo on any or all of your current gadgets, or if a certain part of the game requires you to use a specific gadget then that's the time you open the gadget wheel to swap out your loadout.
The downsides of the suit are definitely true, but the small benefit that you can use whatever suit at no downside is a little nice.
There are too many horrible minigames in the main story, honestly I couldnt help but laugh every time they completely killed the momentum by having me do some shitty minigame. The side stories are mostly horrible pandering except for The Flame missions. Im sorry but im playing Spiderman I dont want to be playing as a deaf mute girl going around spray painting shit. Mary Jane got turned into a Mary Sue in this game as well and i cringed every time i was forced to play her stealth segments.
Just got a ps5 what do y’all recommend me to play? it can either be single player or multiplayer don’t care
The suit power complaint is kinda a non-factor for me. Firstly, I only found a handful of them useful or even interesting, and on top of that to be replaced with a symbiote rage mode is just 10x better imo. Sure some options would be cool but quite honestly could care less about that mechanic being forgotten.
Didn't bro just say he loved it the other day ☠️
Wait he did
Shi im not too sure but I feel like I remember a video of him mentioning it and saying it was a banger and mocking mfs who were complaining about small things idk tho I'm tired ☠️
@@Jules.69tf why switch up tho lmfao
@@nostalgiaharvey7213 I don't know bro but we can all agree the switch up is crazy
Bro be switching up on this game like Twitter rats switch up on films.
agreed why the arkham games are just simply better
I can’t stand people broooo… like y’all ain’t ever happy about nothing? The first game was already GREAT. They just improved on certain aspects of this game. Y’all just want something to complain about I swear.
We get it bro you can't handle criticism regarding the shiny new toy.
@platnumbreaker I mean he's saying the truth regardless like what we're yall expecting is a spiderman game not gta 6
@@BloxPixel You don't get innovation by being jaded and blindly praising everything. Criticism is healthy and what drives the industry forward. It's a great game. Everyone with a brain knows that, but that doesn't make it perfect and in fairness it was a little overhyped. Also people being able to get platinum in under 15 hours for a full priced standalone game isn't great. Let's be honest.
Honestly, after finishing Spider-Man 1 when it came out, all I wanted for the second game was that but more story content. I felt the first game was already near perfect for a Spider-Man game, and thus, couldn't really go much further. I haven't played SM2 and won't until I can get a better monitor, so I can't give any real opinion on it. But I do think that it will at the very least meet my expectations.
I totally knew when I saw the webline in the trailer that it would trivialize stealth and I feel vindicated, though sad, that I was correct.
Yeah ok you're happy but this game should not be 70$
@@dread1262 I mean, no standard edition should be $70. They should be $60, but Sony is greedy as fuck
@@IsaiahINRII think you’ll like it then. I like pc games but on my good monitor using the ps5 this game looks and plays amazing! The entire time I’ve been playing I’ve just been blown away at how it looks and feels. You will definitely like it though I’m super happy with it. The only thing I can agree on is the minimal gadgets. I’d like to have seen the trip mine and web bomb come back but there’s one that sort of acts as the web bomb in a way. But hope you like it when you play it I think you will
This should have been 40 dollar dlc
@@dread1262 no game should be 70 bucks...
Meanwhile in the spanish circles, there's the drama over the "Inclusive" translations, because of the forced "neutral-gendered" words that don't really exist in spanish.
i think having less gadgets is good because its more focused and streamlined using them with the shortcuts. plus the addition of the abilities helps make gameplay fun while compensating for less gadgets. in the first game, i used all of the gadgets but it did get annoying having to hold down the button and cycle through all the gadget menu
For real, I remember people complaining that most of the gadgets were useless in the first game
@@quandaledingle7812 uselss doesnt mean not fun to use
@@quandaledingle7812Everything is useless in the hands of a good player
@@goldboy-pt9px I agree but I’m just saying I remember that being a common criticism and they obviously listened and now people are complaining again
@@quandaledingle7812 i guess thats fair
The biggest problem, is it’s as innovative as the next NBA 2k entry. Same shit, different coat of paint
Re-doing the same city 3 times.
How do they keep getting away with this?
It's almost like Spider-Man has been in New York since his creation.
Next thing you know it's NY but a different season
“Same city” except they basically doubled the size of the map. Fun fact: Yakuza has used the same map for a majority of the franchise and no one complains because the gameplay and story is all that matters
@@riven7907 Yakuza is a AA franchise, Ryu Ga Gotoku doesn't have the budget of a first party sony studio.
When Mile's mother is hotter and looks younger than MJ in this game says it all 💀
The knull suit for miles caught me off guard for a second and the final boss.
it drives me nuts that miles wasn't called Spider-Man 2 and this one Spider-Man 3, it's disturbingly messy, "Spider-Man 2... the third game... then Spider-Man 3, the 4th game"